Latest / Ryder Lee / The Hollow People Cybernetic | Lauren Anton
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- 0:31Welcome back to Raised by Giants Live discussion. Welcome everyone in the chat.
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- 0:39Today we have a very special guest who I met at Contact in the Desert
- 0:43this year, Lauren Anton. But before I bring her on, a reminder
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- 1:26our first time guest today. She is a Shaman instructor and a lifelong
- 1:33experiencer. She has extensive knowledge of Angels, Aliens, and the Paranormal.
- 1:38Lauren Anton, Welcome to the show. It's good to see you. Thanks
- 1:42for coming on. Hi writer, good to see you again. Yes,
- 1:47it is really just a pretty setup for the show, Okay. I want
- 1:51everyone to know that I spent hours and hours looking for this clip from Alex
- 1:57Jones, from Joe Rogan that's very relevant to the show that we're going to
- 2:02do here right now today that I remembered very vividly to play on this show
- 2:07here today with you, Lauren. And we're going to play that clip a
- 2:12little later on. But I was getting to the point where I was getting
- 2:14very agitated, okay, because I distinctly remember the episode that I'm referring to,
- 2:21and I couldn't find it anywhere, and Google didn't help at all.
- 2:23I listened to all of the Joe Rogan Alex Jones episodes that I could find
- 2:30on YouTube. It's not there. I listened to the one that was from
- 2:34twenty seventeen. I was like three and a half hours long. I read
- 2:38through all the transcripts. I listened to the four hour long with Tim Dillon
- 2:42that happened in twenty twenty. It wasn't in there. I read through all
- 2:46of the YouTube transcripts. It wasn't in there. I was seriously like,
- 2:49what is going on here? I was like they had to have wiped it
- 2:53and just made a scene like the episode didn't even exist. I even googled
- 2:57how many times has Alex Jones been on Joe. Google wouldn't tell me.
- 3:01All that popped up was the two that I just mentioned, the one from
- 3:05twenty seventeen and the one from twenty twenty. And I thought, Okay,
- 3:07Google's trying to gaslight me here and act like this episode doesn't exist. But
- 3:14I was on a mission, Lauren, Okay, I was going to find
- 3:16this episode if it was lasting. That I do because I knew that it
- 3:21existed. I remember listening to it, and I had a very detailed memory
- 3:25of it, because I feel like I have you know, I remember a
- 3:28lot of things. I can remember everything that I've ever said and that anyone
- 3:30has ever told me, And of course I can't, you know, repeat
- 3:36it verbatim what other people tell me, but get the point here. So
- 3:38I was searching message boards, rephrasing Google searches, and nothing was coming up.
- 3:44It had been wiped from the internet completely. It's not there anywhere,
- 3:49not even a mention of it, but neilss to say I found it.
- 3:53We're going to play it here a little later on, but I just wanted
- 3:55to let everyone know how difficult of a time I had to try and find
- 3:59the freaking clip, and I wanted to play it here for everyone today and
- 4:02for you, Lauren anyway. Like I said, we're going to play it
- 4:06here in a little while. But Lauren, thanks for coming on. I
- 4:09appreciate it a lot. We had a fantastic conversation at Contacting the desert this
- 4:15year and listening to your story, I found it very fascinating and I wanted
- 4:19to bring you on to love. My audience also hear it as well,
- 4:23and you know, come to their own conclusion. But I feel as if
- 4:27you're a genuine human being and I'm excited to speak with you. So take
- 4:31us from the beginning. An old school raised by giants. Here, take
- 4:38us from the beginning. How did this all start for you, Lauren?
- 4:45As a child, I was very connected to nature, and I could hear
- 4:50trees talk. I understood animals very well. I could hear rocks speak to
- 4:57me. As I got older, it evolved into seeing dead people and having
- 5:03interactions with them and having a lot of experiences with ghosts. And as I
- 5:14became a teenager, it morphed again into more of what I would call Harry
- 5:20Potter school. Things became very interesting. It was frightening a lot of experiences
- 5:28that I was having, so with that became older into my twenties, Harry
- 5:34Potter School really picked up. It seemed like the universe. I didn't realize
- 5:40it at the time. In retrospect, I can look back and say that
- 5:43the universe definitely had its plan for an education for me. But that's where
- 5:48a lot of experiences with the paranormal began, and it created a lot of
- 5:55fear within myself because I didn't understand. And as a child and a teenager,
- 6:00I hated scary movies because I realized that what was in them was actually
- 6:03true, so I tried to avoid those. But anyway, as I got
- 6:10older, things really picked up. And also I feel like a lot of
- 6:16people started to come my way. I was put in front of a lot
- 6:19of people that were having problems with things they didn't understand, and I seemed
- 6:25to have an innate ability to understand that and to comfort these people and to
- 6:32assist them in whatever it is they were trying to accomplish, whether they wanted
- 6:36to get something out of their home. I didn't have any formal training,
- 6:42but I feel like it was just an innate understanding that I have a genetic
- 6:48memory, if you will. Anyway, later on in life, when I
- 6:58was in my thirty I started to have a lot of paranormal experiences in my
- 7:04own home, and I just was constantly surrounded by a variety of beings and
- 7:15had a lot of understanding. I developed a lot of understanding of how to
- 7:19interact or accomplish removing them. So with that, eventually that morphed dramatically.
- 7:30It was like a light switch was turned off and another turned on, and
- 7:38I started to have experiences with angels. And again, like I say in
- 7:44retrospect, it's very interesting how I feel that the universe had a plan for
- 7:48me about It was like a co creation of my skills. So I started
- 7:58to see angels and my first experience was well, technically it was my second
- 8:05experience, but my first experience second experience was extremely profound and altered me.
- 8:13And that experience led to an understanding that I was supposed to study ancient civilizations
- 8:24and humanity, and I was directed towards learning shamanism. So I started studying
- 8:33shamanism and became very versed with that, and that was a parallel education that
- 8:41was occurring at the same time when I was having visits from angels. The
- 8:46angel experiences lasted approximately thirteen years, and during that time I had become a
- 8:56practicing shaman, and it was nice to put an earthly language on what I
- 9:05had learned from angels in the beginning when I was having these experiences, you
- 9:13know, you always question your sanity just a little bit, or what you're
- 9:16told or I wasn't told, I was shown, or information was transferred to
- 9:24me. And so when I would have this information, I would use my
- 9:30logical mind later to wonder if what I was shown exists or is true,
- 9:37or how it could be true. Because I was shown how to heal people,
- 9:43and I was shown things about this world that we live in and who
- 9:48we are and how we came to be and what our true capabilities are.
- 9:52And I feel that shamanism I was trained in the South American tradition. I
- 10:00feel that shamanism assisted me in putting an earthly language to it and validated for
- 10:07me, the things that I had learned from angels, the information I had
- 10:11gathered, and with that I once I had enough validation, and I'm like,
- 10:18oh, this is exactly what I've learned. This is what this is.
- 10:22Now there's there's a process, this is how this works. I no
- 10:26longer questioned what I had been shown by angels, and so it really assisted
- 10:33me in realizing that everything that what was happening to me was happening for a
- 10:37reason, and I had a certain purpose to fulfill here. That's interesting.
- 10:43Now you say that you were you had these paranormal experiences when you were growing
- 10:50up. What was like the first paranormal experience that you had, Because I
- 10:56had several growing up as well, and I just don't don't talk about them.
- 10:58I don't really get into them, and I don't mess with the paranormal
- 11:01anymore. Like I just completely stay away from me because it's really real and
- 11:05it screwed up a lot of stuff for me, so like I don't even
- 11:09touch it and I won't go in any place anymore. It used to be
- 11:11a paranormal investigator, and I'm like, not not doing it anymore. Stuff's
- 11:16too real, it's and I'm just not messing with it. So what was
- 11:22what was that first paranormal experience for you? My first non human was a
- 11:28demon? What did it look like? Was it like scary like everyone says
- 11:35that the demons are, or was it a shadow or typical stereotypical what you
- 11:41would think in a movie or an art would be a demon. And it
- 11:48was extremely frightening and it was very powerful. Also, I've learned along the
- 11:54way because I've had a lot of experiences with different entities, different demons,
- 12:01there's definitely a hierarchy. They have different abilities, So the first one was
- 12:09kind of one of the higher ones. It was very frightening. Now,
- 12:13this is nothing against you, I think, but I think it's important to
- 12:18talk about it right from the beginning. Is were you under the influence of
- 12:24any drugs, alcohol, or any of that during the time that you were
- 12:28having these experiences? Thank you, because that's a completely valid and legitimate question.
- 12:35And it's interesting because whenever I would express these experiences to people, I
- 12:39always felt it necessary to start the conversation with that saying, Look, I
- 12:46promise I'm not crazy, I don't do drugs, I'm not an alcoholic,
- 12:50I'm not having hallucinations. This one hundred percent happened to me. So that's
- 12:56who I was, and no I was not. Yeah, people get kind
- 13:01of get upset when you've asked that question, but I think it's a very
- 13:05important question because it can be done like if you're on some form of drugs
- 13:11or alcohol, like it can influence your perception of reality. Right, absolutely,
- 13:18and honestly, I had to have been the most boring teenager and young
- 13:22person. I never got into any of that. Yeah, that's really good.
- 13:28So now that we've cleared that up. When we were talking at Contact
- 13:35in the Desert, you were talking, I want you to get into your
- 13:37first angel experience and how they put information into you and what that information was.
- 13:43You just mentioned that it was healing information and to study ancient civilizations.
- 13:50Now when a lot of people, that's how you can kind of get a
- 13:52reading on who's kind of telling the truth and who's not. Because a lot
- 13:56of people claim that they get like visions of the future and that they see
- 14:03that everything's going to collapse and then destroy and then they talk about it.
- 14:05It never happened, you know what I mean. So this would make sense
- 14:09if it was actually something that was in it for your better understanding, and
- 14:16your greater good is to give you information about us and like what we're doing
- 14:20here and who we are, you know, and how to further that knowledge.
- 14:26So can you get into that? Sure? So the very first experience
- 14:33I had happened pre what I had told you about. And one day I
- 14:39was writing utility bills at my desk in my office and straight ahead the way
- 14:46the house was structured, there were double doors that opened up into the entryway
- 14:52of the home, and I could see into the formal living room, and
- 14:56I was writing bills, and I was compelled to look up something. I
- 15:01just really felt an urge to look up. And I looked up into the
- 15:05formal living room and I saw a rectangle, a golden rectangle, horizontal,
- 15:15and it looked like a picture frame, but with no picture in it,
- 15:18because I could see the wall and everything behind it. And as I was
- 15:24looking at this, I thought, Wow, there's a rectangle suspended in my
- 15:30living room. And then as I was observing this, there were a lot
- 15:37of twinkles that started, some little adorable, little sweet bright twinkles. And
- 15:45the twinkles started to pick up a little bit and were rapidly flashing, and
- 15:52there became more of them, and I was looking at this light show and
- 15:56I realized that it wasn't just light that I was seeing. I realized that
- 16:03it was music. And I started to hear sound in my ears. And
- 16:10as I was processing all of this information, I realized that, you know,
- 16:14I started to feel some interesting sensations and I thought, wow, this
- 16:18is interacting with me and I and logically, I'm thinking, what is this?
- 16:25And after about you know, what could have been maybe a minute,
- 16:27it went away. And I had told my husband about this, and you
- 16:36know, he had just kind of he thought I was a little a little
- 16:41loopy, but if I might pause for a moment, because to back up,
- 16:45you know, this was just on the heels of a lot of frightening
- 16:49things happening. So I was also telling my husband about all of these frightening
- 16:53things that were happening, and he just didn't know what to make of it.
- 16:57He's like, you know, built a different way, He's just constructed
- 17:02a different way, and he was just processing this in a different way and
- 17:07the information just really wasn't working for him. And I don't think he knew
- 17:11how to handle what I was telling him. So I told him about this
- 17:17rectangle anyway, So with that, I think my husband at the time he
- 17:23thought that I should probably be evaluated. So he had that in his mind.
- 17:30He's like, you know, you might need to take a trip up
- 17:33to the psychiatric unit and be evaluated. And I was so upset about that.
- 17:37And I think that a lot of people that have these types of experiences
- 17:42are very misunderstood. They're not believed, and these things do exist and people
- 17:48need to come to grips with the fact that this is all true. And
- 17:52so I'll touch that topic later. So that's what happened to me as well
- 17:57when I was growing up. When I told my parents about what I was
- 18:00experiencing, they took me to the doctor. Then I just stopped talking about
- 18:06it, you know, I just kept it to myself because I realized that
- 18:10that's what was going to happen. Yes, and that's so unfair to people,
- 18:15because I think everybody else is missing the boat because we're we're messengers and
- 18:22we're conduits. So the very first, the second experience, which I really
- 18:30count as the first experience because it was massively intense. Oh and to also
- 18:37say, I used to stay up very late at night because at the time
- 18:40I had very young children, they were toddlers, and I was always the
- 18:44last person awake at night because that's when I got everything done, and so
- 18:48i'd be up till two o'clock in the morning running around the house, you
- 18:51know, prepping things for the next day. And I remember coming down the
- 18:53hallway one night and I heard this booming voice in my head, you know,
- 19:00and here you go, voices in your head, right, But I
- 19:03think we all know our personal voice in our head and what that sounds like
- 19:07versus when we're getting other information in our head. So I heard this intense,
- 19:18strong voice repeat the words Archangel Michael. So coming down the hallway,
- 19:25I just heard, you know, our angel Michael, our Angel Michael.
- 19:29And I finally just stopped in the hallway and out loud, I said,
- 19:33okay, I get it. Tomorrow, I'll look into it. You know,
- 19:37because I was not raised a religious person. I was baptized into the
- 19:45Greek Orthodox Church as a child, but I was not raised in that church
- 19:52and did not participate in going to church. So I really would say that
- 19:56I don't have a religious background, so that influence was not taking over in
- 20:03any way. So coming I make this proclamation. Okay, I hear I
- 20:11hear you. Okay, I'll look into it. So just within a few
- 20:15days of that, my husband came home from work unexpectedly one day for lunch,
- 20:22but late in the afternoon, and I was in the kitchen doing dishes.
- 20:27And we had at the front of the house double doors that opened up
- 20:34and into a grand staircase that went upstairs, and to the left was of
- 20:37the office, and to the right was the dining room and formal living room
- 20:42and the kitchen. You could go either way around the staircase to get to
- 20:45the kitchen. And I heard his voice and he's like, you know,
- 20:48Lauren, Lauren, come here. And I'm like, hold on, hold
- 20:52on, you know. He's like, no, you better come here.
- 20:56There's someone here to see you. And I'm like okay. So I washed
- 21:02the soap off my hands and threw the dishrag over my shoulder, and I
- 21:04walked from the kitchen into the front of the house front area of the home,
- 21:11and the sight that I came upon was the left side of my husband's
- 21:15body staring up into the ceiling. And I looked at him, and I
- 21:22looked over and I looked up and there it was a giy enormous angel that
- 21:30took up the entire height and width of that room, and we had twenty
- 21:38seven foot ceilings, and there was this angel that looked it was very geometric.
- 21:48It did not look like a human. It was geometry. The body
- 21:52was a triangle, the head was a circle. The wings were wings,
- 21:56and they looked beautiful and they looked like real, beautiful wings. And at
- 22:03the from my perspective looking at it, there you go, there you go
- 22:08pretty much that I mean with real real wings. But it would look like
- 22:11that with real wings. Yeah, with real wings. That's a very close.
- 22:15It looked like a Christmas ornament really, And as I saw it looking
- 22:22at it, on what would be my left, but its right was what
- 22:27looked like a present at the base of the triangle. But it was a
- 22:32cube, so it looked like a present. It was a cube. Now,
- 22:36your husband, was your husband seen us beforere your ex husband? He's
- 22:40seen us before, you seen this? How long was he in there looking
- 22:44at this before? He was with me the entire time? And again in
- 22:48retrospect, I feel like that occurred with him present, because it's not that
- 22:56he's he's a wonderful person, but he just isn't wired that way, and
- 23:00so when I was telling him all these stories from my previous experiences, he
- 23:03just didn't know how to cope with them. And I really feel in retrospect
- 23:07that this occurred in front of him so that he'd lay off so that I
- 23:15wouldn't go to the psychiatric unit, and he was stunned. So anyway,
- 23:22this angel was two dimensional. The wings, the triangle body, the circle
- 23:27head were all two dimensional, but the cube at the base was three dimensional.
- 23:34And the entire thing was the same color of white. And it was
- 23:41the most beautiful color of white you've ever seen. But that color of white
- 23:47doesn't exist here because I've never seen it before, but I identify it as
- 23:52being white, and it was so beautiful and it was very bright, but
- 23:56it was very easy to look at. So this is in front of us,
- 24:03and I didn't want to burst out and say, oh my god,
- 24:07you see this angel? So I said, what do you see? And
- 24:11he said, I don't know what do you see. So we've played this
- 24:15ridiculous game with each other because nobody wanted to say it's an angel. So
- 24:21finally I'm the one that said I'm looking at an angel, and he said,
- 24:23so am I. So we proceeded to have this analytical conversation about what
- 24:32we were looking at. And while this was occurring, and this was so
- 24:41large, you could not take it in by just looking in one area.
- 24:45I had to take it in in sections. And so anyway, we're comparing
- 24:51this and having this absolutely ridiculous dialogue about what we were seeing. And at
- 24:57a certain point, at the center of the triangle, which would equate to
- 25:03somebody's solar plexus, and at the center of the cube, an aperture opened
- 25:08up and it just like opened up at the same time and like a camera
- 25:17aperture. Absolutely, yeah, yeah. And at the same time, white
- 25:23light, a different color of white light started to come out of both of
- 25:30those areas. And then at a certain point it converged and it was coming
- 25:37towards me, towards us, and that white light had motion to it,
- 25:49It had a ripple effect. It was it was easy to think of it
- 25:56as like a living light. It was alive, it had motion, it
- 26:00had like almost a personality, and it had a different color of white.
- 26:07And I again, the motion, the rippling effect, the motion of it
- 26:12very hard to describe. There's not adequate words in our language to describe what
- 26:18I was looking at. But the closest thing that I can tell you that
- 26:22it reminded me of was if you were at like in a in a gym
- 26:26or a spat, and you're you're going down a hallway where there's a swimming
- 26:30pool nearby, and you see the reflection of the ripples of the swimming pool
- 26:34on a wall. Similar but nowhere near that, but similar. So this
- 26:44ripple, this ripple river of light made contact with with us, and once
- 26:52it did, at the origin, colored light started to emmert and cork screw
- 27:02out of out of that and be carried through this river of light towards us.
- 27:08And as it was cork screwing out, it was it was the most
- 27:14beautiful. They were the most beautiful colors. And it would it would shift
- 27:18colors as it came out, and the colors that were coming towards us would
- 27:25stay intact. They weren't fading, and so they were the solid color as
- 27:30it as it came towards us. And then just more colors started to come
- 27:33out. And as I'm looking at this happening, the language that we have
- 27:42for the colors that we know I could identify those pink, blue, green,
- 27:48and they never you know. And on the color well, you know
- 27:52purple and blue mate, you know, blue and red mate purple. Right,
- 27:57there were logical things happening where I could identify names of color, but
- 28:03there were colors coming out that I had never seen before that don't exist here,
- 28:08and I had no words for them. But I was just taking this
- 28:12experience in as the color came towards me and made contact with my body.
- 28:22Every time a color of light made contact with my body, I would feel
- 28:26a corresponding emotion, and I would recognize most of those emotions. But the
- 28:36colors that I didn't recognize, they had corresponding emotions that I didn't recognize because
- 28:42those don't exist here, or if they do, we're like numb to them
- 28:48because something has been turned off within us and we're not able to experience those
- 28:56things. Okay, So, as this was occurring and I was feeling all
- 29:02of this, I was identifying feelings like extreme feelings of like love and peace
- 29:08and bliss and forgiveness and all these all these different emotions that we're familiar with
- 29:15and some that were not. Simultaneously, as I was looking at the wings,
- 29:22and they were so gorgeous. Tears were coming out of my eyes because
- 29:29it was having such a visceral effect on my body. But I was taking
- 29:36in the enormity of it, and I seemed to be more focused on this
- 29:40side because this is where I was. But each row of feathers and they
- 29:45were so beautiful and completely mathematically symmetrical, every tip. As I would as
- 29:52I would take in the rows and the feathers, and I would see each
- 29:56tip, I have yet another physical reaction inside of my body when I would
- 30:04focus in and make contact with each feather tip, and it occurred to me
- 30:11that their data points and they were transmitting information to me. So the whole
- 30:22experience was I mean, there's just no words. There are inadequate words to
- 30:30describe what it felt like. And do you feel any fear at any point
- 30:34in time during this or was it all love and hope and peace? Yeah?
- 30:41Zero, none, And yes to the second thing you said, yeah,
- 30:45so not even when the red collar, because red is normally associated with
- 30:49fear and hate. So even when the red collar hit you, you didn't
- 30:56feel any fear. No, no, not at all. So this entire
- 31:04experience lasted. It was hard to really say how long this experience lasted,
- 31:10but I would say several several minutes. Now, what was happening to your
- 31:15ex husband during this time? Was he also getting hit with this information?
- 31:21Was the spiral of information also hitting him? Was it hitting you both at
- 31:26the same time, or what was going on there? So it's hard to
- 31:32say. I don't think it was necessarily just coming at me because this river
- 31:38of light was quite wide, so I feel like it was also in his
- 31:44direction as well. We were side by side, basically touching shoulders. And
- 31:48during all of this, like I'm telling you, we were having this ridiculous
- 31:52dialogue. So a lot was going on, because you know, you can
- 31:56take something in, but you can also be having a conversation about something.
- 32:02But I will say, so what ended up happening is at a certain point
- 32:09he just became very agitated because I was talking about the light, I was
- 32:15talking about the color, I was talking about how I was feeling. Not
- 32:20every single time, because sometimes I couldn't speak when I was experiencing some of
- 32:23these emotions, I could not speak at all. But at one point he
- 32:29just had a little bit of a meltdown maybe and he said something not very
- 32:34nice kind of like, hmm f this, that's that's not an angel,
- 32:42and no sooner he said that that the colored light corkscrewed backwards, the river
- 32:51of light like retracted into the two areas. The apertures closed, and then
- 32:55the entire angel began to fade equally and just dim until it was no longer
- 33:05in the room. And then I got very upset with him, and I
- 33:09said, why did you say that? You made it go away? You
- 33:13know. So anyway, after that, he didn't really speak too much.
- 33:16We didn't talk about what had happened after that. Really. The next morning,
- 33:22I woke up and I loved going out on my front porch in the
- 33:28morning to water my plants. And when I went out and I opened the
- 33:31doors, and by the way, it's interesting because at the time I didn't
- 33:37know what the equinoxes were or the solstices. I was not wired that way
- 33:43to know those things. But this did occur on the spring equinox of that
- 33:49year. I always thought that was interesting when I later learned what equinoxes and
- 33:54solstices were. But I went outside that next morning. When I walked outside,
- 34:00everything just looked different. The sky to me looked different. It was
- 34:05like more beautiful, more clear. The plants looked different. I could feel
- 34:14the plants vibrating. I could feel electricity in the air, and the air
- 34:20was vibrating. I was experiencing the world in an extremely different way. And
- 34:29did everything you have like a wear like glow to it, like a shimmer?
- 34:31Yes, glow there was. There was a beautiful glow or a light
- 34:42to everything. Yes, it was interesting. And with that, at that
- 34:50moment, it's like I got kind of hit with the proverbial lightning bolt,
- 34:54because it absolutely hit me that I all of a sudden understood what we are
- 35:05and what we're made of and how we function. And I understood how to
- 35:14clean a human. I understood how to clean dense energy out of a human
- 35:17and to reintroduce a quantum of clean energy. So I, all of a
- 35:24sudden just knew a lot of things, and I had to understand what that
- 35:31all meant. It took me a little bit of time to process that because
- 35:36it wasn't clear at the moment, you know. But soon after that then
- 35:39I became aware of messages telling me to study shamanism ancient civilizations. I was
- 35:49directed in a certain direction. I started to be visited by angels regularly.
- 35:54They would come approximately once a month, and sometimes they would appear to me
- 36:01in person during wake time, and other times I was taken either in my
- 36:08sleep or if I just kind of phased off. When I would be taken.
- 36:20At the time, I thought my body was up there, because I
- 36:23would be taken off planet and I could look down at the Earth, and
- 36:28it was a little frightening because I could see myself floating in space with angels
- 36:35around me, and I realized now that that wasn't my physical body, that
- 36:39was my light body that had been you know, my software had peeled off
- 36:45and gone up experience, which is a very real thing. What did the
- 36:53Earth look like from space? What we see it as looking as it was
- 37:00a beautiful a beautiful blue marble with gorgeous it's beautiful. Was it more oval
- 37:08shaped or completely round? Looked pretty round to me. Mhmm. Yeah,
- 37:15that's interesting. Now, do you think that you were having this out of
- 37:22body experience on your own, because that's kind of like what dreams technically could
- 37:27be. You right, whenever you're dreaming, you're technically outside of your body,
- 37:36like you're in a different reality. You're in a different existence and like
- 37:40maybe a fabricated existence. And it seems like whenever you dream is just for
- 37:46you, like you're the You're just surrounded by a bunch of NPC characters and
- 37:53a bunch of people that probably don't know that it's a fabrication of your mind.
- 38:00Do you think that this was you doing that or do you think something
- 38:06was guiding you to get outside of your body? Absolutely, it was not
- 38:12a dream. Even if I was taken during my sleep, I was not
- 38:16asleep during this situation. It was extremely vivid. I was extremely aware,
- 38:22and I would have interactions with them because when those experiences would happen, I
- 38:29would be surrounded by several of them and they would gesture towards me. And
- 38:35when they would gesture towards me, I would again hear music and it was
- 38:42really beautiful and it just penetrated my body. It just put a deep vibration
- 38:50through my body. And it was quite an experience because it was just so
- 38:58intense and it was paralyzing, but in a good way, and I could
- 39:02just feel everything. Every cell of my body was just vibrating because they were
- 39:10transmitting information. So through the years, when I've developed my skills. I
- 39:20am very very very well versed about when I'm having a dream versus when I
- 39:23am not, And I can tell you I was definitely not having a dream.
- 39:28So did you ever have a near death experience when you were younger?
- 39:32I did. That's really interesting because it seems like people that have near death
- 39:39experiences kind of get endowed with like some sort of ability more often more oftentimes
- 39:49than not. People that have that that have been close to death like that
- 39:52and come back that their life is different. Have you ever thought of that
- 39:58that meybeing having a near death experience when you were younger kind of maybe brought
- 40:05some sort of ability to the forefront, because I think that we all have,
- 40:10you know, certain abilities, but how those abilities are unlocked is normally
- 40:15through trauma, and it's unfortunate that that's the way. But near death experiences
- 40:20is a trauma, you know. And they've figured that out a lot through
- 40:23the mk Ultra programs to like torture people to unlock their psychic ability so that
- 40:30they can be used to do certain things that there's four or five different mk
- 40:34Ultra subprojects that was just dedicated to psychic research and remote viewing and you know
- 40:40things like that. So have you ever thought that that your near death experience
- 40:45had something to do with all the other experiences throughout your life? So my
- 40:55comment on that would be from what I've heard of other people having near death
- 41:00experiences. Many of them talk about, you know, going to the light
- 41:06or being in a different place, having a rich journey, a rich experience
- 41:12where they're you know, seeing things and they're somewhere else. Okay, they've
- 41:17traveled somewhere else. That it didn't happen that way for me. I wasn't
- 41:22that far gone. But I was on the bottom of a lake drowning,
- 41:29and I when I went down, I didn't have any air in my lungs,
- 41:34and I dropped like a rock and I couldn't get back up. And
- 41:38when I touched bottom, I kept trying to push off and get up,
- 41:43but I was stuck down there. And at a certain point I sat down.
- 41:53And when I sat down, I was realizing that I was really out
- 42:00of air. And so I I wondered to myself, I won't just breathe
- 42:06just a little bit, maybe right here, and just if I put my
- 42:09head down, if I could breathe a little bit, and maybe sucks some
- 42:12oxygen up my nose, but I actually tried that and I got water up
- 42:16my nose, and I remember thinking my mother was going to kill me,
- 42:21because I was only eleven, and you know what kid doesn't think, Oh
- 42:23my god, my mom's going to be so had at me when she finds
- 42:27out I'm dead, right, So I decided that that that's what was happening
- 42:37to me. And I was down there and I wasn't going back up,
- 42:39so I decided to let go and I and I couldn't see very well down
- 42:47there anyway, but I just closed my eyes and decided to take a breath,
- 42:57and because I just can't hold my breath anymore, and I let go,
- 43:07and kind of the next thing I know, I felt the sensation of
- 43:14going up. And I don't know what I really thought about that, writer
- 43:21I guess I thought I was dying, But it didn't happen to me like
- 43:25seeing a light or being anywhere else. And I certainly didn't get so far
- 43:30that I saw things like people see. And I realized that I could feel
- 43:37something under my arms, and I realized there was something behind me, and
- 43:43something was behind me and had me under my arms, and I realized that
- 43:46that's why I was going up. And the next thing I know, I
- 43:51was on the shore and I woke up face down in the sand, in
- 43:59the sandy and coughed a lot and got up and went into the house where
- 44:07where I was going. I was gone for the weekend with a bunch of
- 44:12young people, having an experience with a bunch of young people. It was
- 44:16actually a church situation with Yeah, so mine was just completely darkness, darkness,
- 44:25just nothing, but there was so much peace and there was so much
- 44:29hope and love within that darkness. So when I was almost mm hm m
- 44:37hmm, and when I was going up and realized there was something behind me
- 44:42lifting me out of there, it felt very safe and I felt very secure.
- 44:50So to like answer your question, I feel like that, I mean,
- 44:58either who knows what really happened? Right? So, either who knows
- 45:04what really took me to the top, But it wasn't me, And I
- 45:07feel like there must have been a reason that I was taken to the top.
- 45:13That's interesting, So this could have a little bit of a timeline on
- 45:17this and between you becoming a healer and figuring out how to heal people and
- 45:25from your angel experience, where the angels putting information into your body, well
- 45:32into your mind. What year was that angel experience? Do you remember?
- 45:40Two thousand and four? Two thousand and four, So what happens after that
- 45:47angel experience? How did you? Because I think people have a really weird
- 45:53sense of like what healing actually is. There's a lot of fake healers and
- 45:57a lot of people that are talk a bunch of nouns sense, especially on
- 46:00the internet, when it comes to healing. I've only known one that I
- 46:07one hundred percent believe is legit because I actually had the experience and when he
- 46:13was working on me, I could one hundred percent feel it, and I
- 46:16knew that he was doing something right. And this was remotely too. I
- 46:21wasn't even in the same room as this individual. So the healing is real,
- 46:27it can be done. It's just there's a lot of charlatans and a
- 46:30lot of nonsense and a lot of bullshit out there when it comes to healing,
- 46:32because people want to make money and make profit. Can you explain a
- 46:37little bit about healing and how it works, because from my understanding, a
- 46:44real healer, a real shamanic healer, actually takes on the experiences of that
- 46:51individual they can see like a timeline of events that this individual that you're healing.
- 46:55You can see either experiences of their life, you can see their traumas.
- 47:00You see pretty much everything about them, and then you take that on
- 47:04and transmute that and turn out into something positive. Is that's sort of how
- 47:07it works. Okay, So for me and no, you're absolutely spot on.
- 47:14You do not have to be in the same room with someone because there's
- 47:17no it's an illusion. Are the separation between us is? There is no
- 47:22separation between us. Distance is irrelevant. So when I'm tracking somebody, I
- 47:30enter different perceptual states to be able to track a person because humans have different
- 47:37layers. And so there's a physical layer, an emotional layer, a soul
- 47:42layer, and a pure energy layer, and there's information to be had in
- 47:49each area. And so and what more details about what tracking is for people
- 47:55that don't understand or like know that, I know you might kind of got
- 48:00into it a little bit, But what does tracking mean? Okay, So
- 48:06somebody is having an issue, or they're having an emotional issue, or they're
- 48:10having a physical problem and they want assistance from me. I'll always ask somebody,
- 48:15So what's up for you? Why do you need assistance? What are
- 48:21you looking to accomplish? And I'll ask them what's up on the table for
- 48:25them right then? But I don't want to hear too much because I don't
- 48:29want my I don't want to have received ideas, right so I just want
- 48:35a few words and then I'll say, okay, so what do you want
- 48:38to accomplish today? And then what I do is I I just travel within,
- 48:46I just access I just access them, and so I'm tracking, I
- 48:52track them. So you know, maybe some people might use I'm sure it's
- 48:58synonymous with other words, like you could say, oh, what does a
- 49:00remote viewer do while they extend their consciousness to another location to be able to
- 49:07ascertain information? It's the same thing. So I set the intention to assist
- 49:16them for what they want assistance with, and I start looking and I'm able
- 49:22to gather all kinds of rich information from them. All of the senses are
- 49:29involved. I can see things, I see stories that everybody has rich stories
- 49:36because how humans are constructed, it's so the simple answer, the simple explanation
- 49:44is we're integrated with an energy body. So our physical body is our hardware
- 49:52and our energy body is our software. And just like our computers. Those
- 49:55two systems are integrated, and our software, our light body, our energy
- 50:02body, is with us always. So that's the difference between a live person
- 50:08and a non a live person. Right. Our energy body animates our physical
- 50:14body. So when someone passes, what's left here is their physical body,
- 50:20but what persists is the continuity of their consciousness, and that persists on and
- 50:30retains data. Right, So every experience that you've ever had is stored as
- 50:38data within your software, within your energy body. And so this is a
- 50:47rich place of information. So when you access this, you get all kinds
- 50:51of information. So I can see stories, and it's not just from this
- 50:55lifetime. I can see past lives. I can see into the future because
- 51:01time is an illusion, so you can see things. So I see things,
- 51:07I hear things, you can smell things, you can taste things,
- 51:13you can feel things, you feel all their stories. So it kind of
- 51:19reminds me they're adorable. Movie called Paul that a little alien and at one
- 51:29point he's healing one of the characters, a woman who has a blind eye.
- 51:35And that's a great scene because when I saw that movie, I was
- 51:38like, yep, that's exactly what it's like. Because in that scene of
- 51:43the movie, he was having an interaction and exchange with her and her eye
- 51:50became held, but in the process, his eye was shifting and began to
- 51:53look like hers. But then when the process was over, she had a
- 51:58healed eye. His eye was restored to nor. I really related to that
- 52:04because you really feel everything that's happening with somebody, So I can always know
- 52:09if somebody's having a physical problem. You know it's your liver, it's this,
- 52:15it's that, or an emotional problem. So when you get all of
- 52:19this data, it creates a complete picture so that you understand where all their
- 52:24traumas are, and you can clear out all of the dense energy associated with
- 52:31experiences so that they're moving through the world in a healed in a healed state,
- 52:39from a healed perspective instead of a of a hurt perspective. Now,
- 52:45when you were doing these heilings, were you doing these heilings in person some
- 52:52yes, Yes, if you're starting to move towards talking about hollow people,
- 53:00yes, At that time. Early on in my career, I would try
- 53:05to do in person sessions, and then I evolved into doing sessions remotely by
- 53:12phone. So you can basically see a timeline with this tracking with a person,
- 53:21and we are going to get into the hallow people. Because I think
- 53:24that this is very fascinating. I've always thought that there's been people out there
- 53:30that didn't have souls, they didn't have a consciousness. They're just kind of
- 53:34like a shell, like what you're talking about. They're just a physical body.
- 53:38They don't have anything else inside them. Have you ever ran into anyone
- 53:46like that that didn't have any experiences, that didn't have anything in them,
- 53:52that is just a shell of a human. Yes, maybe human? Maybe
- 54:01not human? Right, right? Right? Because some people you know,
- 54:05you're right, Yes, I mean some people are completely normal and human,
- 54:12they just like are lacking in some departments. But this is a completely different
- 54:15thing. Yes, I had since I have run into two what looked like
- 54:22humans that were completely void of data and it was it was shocking. Well,
- 54:30tell us about that that first experience and what happened and what led up
- 54:37to that, and how you discovered that they were essentially hollow. Okay,
- 54:46So I think a good place to start would would be that probably about twenty
- 54:53eleven, I was living in the Seattle area. I lived in a a
- 55:00city called Kirkland, and I decided to apply to teach a class, a
- 55:07continuing education class. It's your university that's located in Kenmore, Washington, and
- 55:15I was accepted to teach a class there, and I and class. It
- 55:21was a class about protection and boundaries and how to clear some energy. And
- 55:25there were a lot of students in that class, and it like a lot
- 55:30of students, and it caught the attention of the university, and I was
- 55:35approached by the director of continuing education and she said, hey, how about
- 55:39you, Hey, how about you apply to become a program instructor and you
- 55:47teach a lot of classes here. So I did accep did, and I
- 55:52started, and I started to become a popular continuing education instructor that university.
- 56:02And then meanwhile, in my private life, I started to have a lot
- 56:07of really strange paranormal experiences started to pick up at about that time as well.
- 56:14So twenty eleven and twenty twelve were like jumping with activity. So you
- 56:22know, when you teach a class like that, a lot of students become
- 56:25interested in what you do, and a lot of people will want a session
- 56:29privately. So I started to get some clients having in person sessions, and
- 56:37when I would do my in person sessions, you know, you run across
- 56:43people are not cookie cutter. Everybody is so unique. But what I will
- 56:49say is that you absolutely know when someone's human because everybody is rich with data.
- 56:55All your experiences, like I said, are stored within your energet system,
- 57:00and it's just a wealth of information to be able and there's so much
- 57:07there. So you can feel, taste, smell here, hear things,
- 57:12you know things about people. And so I it'd be about two years and
- 57:21I was, I was, you know, getting a lot of interest in
- 57:25what I was doing. And there was this one student that came to me
- 57:32and it was a man and he wanted to have a private session. I
- 57:37said sure, so I scheduled it and he came to the location that I
- 57:42was doing that at. And when I do a session with somebody, I
- 57:49never touch them. You don't just don't touch anybody. It's sorry. So
- 57:57they were laying down and I have them relaxed and I found out, you
- 58:02know, I'm like, what would you want to know about? And he
- 58:05didn't really have an answer what he wanted to know about. He said,
- 58:07I'm just curious about what you do or what what this is like. So
- 58:13I started to do a session on him, and I realized quickly that there
- 58:20was nothing there, because it's it's just instantaneous, you know, the minute
- 58:24you make the decision to go there, you're there. And I thought,
- 58:30well, okay, this is odd. There's nothing here. And I kept
- 58:34I kept looking and I kept you know, I kept tracking, I kept
- 58:37tracking. There's nothing there. There was absolutely nothing there. And let's take
- 58:43a pause there for a moment because I want to make another comment. What's
- 58:47good to keep in mind is that when you do have a session with people
- 58:52with a with a real, live human, I always tell people, hey,
- 59:00don't feel like you can't talk to me during the session because I work
- 59:04in split screens, so if you have a question you can ask me,
- 59:07or if you have a comment, you know, I feel free to speak,
- 59:10but you know, you don't want to be really chatty and take yourself
- 59:14out of the process. But if you want to, you can speak to
- 59:17me and I'll answer you. So when people do that, they will make
- 59:22comments. They make comments that make a lot of sense. They'll say,
- 59:28Wow, I'm experiencing or I'm seeing this, or I feel this way,
- 59:36and it pertains to them, and it's something that they're or feeling and they
- 59:43want to share that because either they want to take a deeper dive in that
- 59:45area or something's going on. Makes perfect sense about what somebody's asking or saying.
- 59:52But this person, and keep in mind this person, there was nothing
- 59:58there and it worried me first, and I thought, what is this because
- 1:00:00this is not normal? And they asked a couple of questions and the questions
- 1:00:10did not pertain to them, they pertained to me, and it was just
- 1:00:15not normal at all. They wanted to know, how do you know how
- 1:00:21to do this? How many children do you have? I mean a normal
- 1:00:27questions that had nothing to do with them being there. So as I'm you
- 1:00:30know, this is we're like maybe five minutes into this and there's nothing going
- 1:00:36on, and I'm thinking there's a serious problem here. And so at that
- 1:00:40point, I started to taste metal in my mouth, and you know,
- 1:00:46that's a that's a that's a sign that you're dealing with a demon if you
- 1:00:52taste metal. But I wasn't convinced it was a demon. But I realized
- 1:01:00that whatever was going on was not normal and that there was nothing inside and
- 1:01:07that I really felt I really felt threatened, and I thought, okay,
- 1:01:12it occurred to me too. I thought, I wonder if they can read
- 1:01:15my thoughts, because I wonder if they're catching on that I've come that they're
- 1:01:21not human. And so I decided to fake the session. I decided to
- 1:01:29start saying things. I started talking a butterfly. You know, animals,
- 1:01:38plants, stones, stories all means something, right, So I started to
- 1:01:45bring up some symbolism. I absolutely faked the session. I didn't want to
- 1:01:50just sit there doing nothing, and I felt extremely vulnerable. Plus I was
- 1:01:55in this location by myself, with this thing, and I thought to myself
- 1:02:06the last were thinking to myself was what if I die or what if I'm
- 1:02:12taking And that's it off. So I just absolutely shut my mind off and
- 1:02:19I started faking it and creating an internal dialogue that was fake, which was
- 1:02:25probably a really good thing for you to do. You definitely took the best
- 1:02:31course of action because there's a few things that could be going on there that
- 1:02:37we've previously talked about that it could be something that was sent to you to
- 1:02:42figure out if you're a legit healer or not, to figure out if you're
- 1:02:45a real psychic. If you really have the abilities that you say that you
- 1:02:51have, that's a possibility that they would send like a little spy to you
- 1:02:57to see if you actually And if you would have said, I see nothing,
- 1:03:01you're a freaking cyborg or you're not a human, then they would have
- 1:03:07known that you were real. So that was probably the best course of action
- 1:03:14for you to just make up what you made of it. I felt it
- 1:03:17protected me because it's like, oh, they can just think is a fake?
- 1:03:23Uh, you know so. And then the second time it happened was
- 1:03:29the next quarter, And the next quarter I was teaching a different class,
- 1:03:32and the next time it was a woman. And then when I realized she
- 1:03:37wasn't real. And what was so bizarre about that one too? She had
- 1:03:43a wedding ring on and she looked like a typical middle aged housewife and she
- 1:03:51had this ring on, and we weren't too far into the session again,
- 1:03:53like just you know, two three minutes in and her eyes were closed.
- 1:04:00There is no way she could have known that I was looking at her ring
- 1:04:04because she had a ring on her finger, and she said, oh,
- 1:04:13my husband gave that to me, but it doesn't mean anything. And I
- 1:04:17thought whoa, How how did she know that I was looking there? Because
- 1:04:21there's no way her eyes were open. But the same thing there were there.
- 1:04:26She was completely void of experiences. There was absolutely nothing inside. This
- 1:04:30was not from trauma or anything else. This is because there were no experiences.
- 1:04:34There were no human experiences, because human experiences have emotion. And that's
- 1:04:41the difference that I'm going to say. I think the thing that sets us
- 1:04:45apart, you know, are our experiences and our emotions. So you can
- 1:04:48transfer data into a machine, and you can even teach a machine that they
- 1:04:55should blink, you know, or mimic us in some way. But at
- 1:05:00the end of the day, you can even teach them or program them,
- 1:05:03I'm assuming to respond with an appropriate emotion and what that might be, But
- 1:05:10are they actually experiencing the emotion? Right? And so that's the difference.
- 1:05:15This person was absolutely void of anything. And I thought, Wow, they're
- 1:05:19getting more clever because they sent something less threatening. They sent a female,
- 1:05:26you know, and it was such a good rendition of a human because this
- 1:05:31time it was less scary, and I thought, oh my god, it's
- 1:05:34another one. But the skin, the hair, the mannerisms, everything was
- 1:05:43extremely high tech. But it was not real. It was not a real
- 1:05:48human, which then throws me right into this Alage Jones and Joe Roman clip.
- 1:05:56This is where this bad boy comes in, you know, for people
- 1:05:59that I think human cyborgs don't exist. I remember this Alex Jones talking about
- 1:06:06this with Joe Rogan, which he said a lot of things in this episode
- 1:06:13that we're going to play this clip from. And I rewatched the entire thing
- 1:06:16from getting this clip yesterday, which from this episode is probably the best episode
- 1:06:21of all the three times that Alex Jones has been on Joe Rogan. But
- 1:06:26this is from a conversation almost well, it was from twenty nineteen, five
- 1:06:32years ago, and it's from a five hour long conversation on Joe Rogan's podcast
- 1:06:38in twenty nineteen. The podcast number is twelve to fifty five. Don't bother
- 1:06:45typing it in to YouTube. It won't come up, at least for me.
- 1:06:49Maybe my search engine is wacky. But this clip that we're getting ready
- 1:06:56to play is from Alex Jones in twenty nineteen on Joe and I'm going to
- 1:07:00pop up the fair Youth spanner and that this clip is covered under the fair
- 1:07:04Use Disclaimer Section one oh seven of the Copyright Act of nineteen seventy six allowances
- 1:07:10made for fair use for the purposes such as criticism, comment, news,
- 1:07:14reporting, scholarship, education, and research. And that is what we are
- 1:07:18going to be doing here today. YouTube is commenting on this Alex Jones Joe
- 1:07:25Rogan podcast from twenty nineteen. That is probably the most difficult thing that ever
- 1:07:31ever took me to find ever. And instead of just talking about what Alex
- 1:07:39Jones was talking about in twenty nineteen, We're going to hear it directly from
- 1:07:42him and comment on it. So here we go. I'm on record twenty
- 1:07:47years ago before anybody else was talking about the clockwork elves, this is from
- 1:07:53twenty nineteen, and telling YouTube that I am commenting over this video. This
- 1:08:00is for education purposes, in research. And now the globalists think they're in
- 1:08:04touch with these entities and things only because and I don't want to get I'm
- 1:08:09not the CIA. The CIA is bigger than Coca Colas, and it's like
- 1:08:13bigger than Walmart. I've never been an intelligence agency. I've never been in
- 1:08:16part of any of this stuff. But I had family that was in advanced
- 1:08:21DARPA research projects that I don't know all the details about and this is really
- 1:08:30a throwaway line and a throwaway clip from this five hour long conversation, but
- 1:08:36it always stuck with me, and you'll see why it always stuck with me,
- 1:08:41and said it's only about a minute and thirty seconds, but you know,
- 1:08:45always put it in the back of my mind. I was like,
- 1:08:46wow, this is really interesting. When I was a kid, my dad
- 1:08:50told me about some of it, not knowing i'd be a talk show host
- 1:08:53layer. But like when the deputy director of the CIA have a tooth pulled,
- 1:08:57it came to my dad. Okay, so my dad was the doctor
- 1:09:00to you know, these guys. And I remember sitting around the kitchen table
- 1:09:02on I'm like seven. He's like, Carol, I can't tell you all
- 1:09:05about it, but it's a classified program in Maryland and an underground base and
- 1:09:11they won't give me all the details. But it's double the money I'm making
- 1:09:13now on this instruinancial security. But I think I think it's basically, you
- 1:09:15know, we're gonna we're building cyborgs, and we've got special forces that have
- 1:09:18volunteered so we can infiltrate the Russians and get the codes and systems in I
- 1:09:24believe it's implanting but messages in their teeth. And I also think, as
- 1:09:28I'm doing plants, I think it's a brain surgery program for microchips. And
- 1:09:31so I'm hearing it, and Carol's like, David, I'm sick of these
- 1:09:33people. And you've already done so much for the cup government and look what
- 1:09:38they've already done to you and my brother. You're not going to be you
- 1:09:41know, I want you out of this. So this is like, you
- 1:09:44know, seven eight years old, you're not hearing about the You're hearing about
- 1:09:45the cyborgs. Okay, that was it. It was a throwaway type of
- 1:09:54line, but I remembered it and I put it in the back of my
- 1:09:57head and YouTube and then a to try and hide it from me and act
- 1:10:00like it didn't even exist. But I found it. Boom, it's there.
- 1:10:04And he said twenty years ago. So that came out in twenty nineteen,
- 1:10:09So that would have been late nineteen nineties that he was talking about that,
- 1:10:17and it would have been even further back whenever he was a kid and
- 1:10:21his dad was involved in his Darber research program to create cyborgs. So you're
- 1:10:29talking the seventies and seventies, and then you think, well, how sophisticated
- 1:10:36if they were doing this way back then, how sophisticated do they have him
- 1:10:43now? And where did the technology come from? And right? And yeah,
- 1:10:57and why? And what what is the point? So, I mean
- 1:11:00what that man said in the clip, I mean there's a very large government
- 1:11:05point to what they were trying to accomplish. But it blows my mind a
- 1:11:12way that I had two people check up on me. I find that really
- 1:11:19interesting, And you know, on some level, it's it's upsetting, you
- 1:11:26feel unsafe, you know, it's like what because I came to the conclusion
- 1:11:30I never knew what they were at first, I thought, like I told
- 1:11:33you, I first, at first I thought the first one was a demon
- 1:11:36because I had no other reference point. But once the second one showed up,
- 1:11:41I thought, this, this isn't a demon, but it's not human.
- 1:11:45And so at the time I was being you know, making making,
- 1:11:54you know, I kind of had a following up there, and people were
- 1:11:57really interested in what I was doing, and I was motivating people, and
- 1:12:00people were their moods were changing. You know, I'd have a classroom full
- 1:12:03of people and they'd come in one way and leave another, you know.
- 1:12:10And I think the point, the point of what Angel has taught me is
- 1:12:16for us to step into our birthright, our birthright of what we are,
- 1:12:25and step into our place. And people don't. People aren't in their highest
- 1:12:32functioning form. People are stressed, you know. Many of us are just
- 1:12:38trying to get you know, by day, day to day, paycheck by
- 1:12:42paycheck, surviving so much stress in the world, so many problems. And
- 1:12:47when you have that kind of distraction, you can't evolve, You cannot go,
- 1:12:56you can't expand your consciousness, you can't live in a clean way where
- 1:13:00your machine. And when I say machine, I say our machine, right,
- 1:13:04because we're an advanced system. Most people, I mean, we're all
- 1:13:14built the same. We have the same hardware, the same software. There's
- 1:13:18the only difference between me and someone else is that I understand my equipment and
- 1:13:24I know how to use it, you know. And I was teaching people
- 1:13:29how to access their equipment. I was teaching people to shed their I was
- 1:13:34assisting people in shedding their trauma, shedding their fears and their anxieties, seeing
- 1:13:41life from a different perspective so it would give them momentum and motivation and creativity
- 1:13:47to bring out their gifts into the world and to do the same for others
- 1:13:51so that we all come to a higher place. And the points of everything
- 1:13:57is cliche as it sounds, is love. It's about raising our vibration.
- 1:14:02It's about becoming very intelligent, very aware, very compassionate, changing the face
- 1:14:14of this planet and evolving and having higher health, higher consciousness. And I
- 1:14:20was accomplishing that, and I feel like I was accomplishing that in my tiny
- 1:14:26little corner of my world. And I feel like, for whatever reason,
- 1:14:31somebody just had to figure out what I knew and what I was about.
- 1:14:38And I still don't know really the origin of where that was. I mean,
- 1:14:42was it the government? Was it alien? You know? Why was
- 1:14:46I being looked at? But I was absolutely being looked at and monitored.
- 1:14:55Well, I think it's interesting because there's a direction that humanity can take that
- 1:15:05that is way more human. Then there's another direction that it seems like we're
- 1:15:12being pushed into that is a fully robotic, AI driven world. And I've
- 1:15:20said this on the record before, but I'm going to say it again because
- 1:15:26I think it's important that the transgender agenda is set up for the transhumanist agenda.
- 1:15:36That is what it's all about. That is why there's so much focus
- 1:15:43on kids, so that in twenty years, when those kids are growing up
- 1:15:49and they have all these ideas that they can change their body, they can
- 1:15:55be whatever they want, they can identify as whatever they want. They already
- 1:16:01have that basic concept in their head. So when it's time to merge most
- 1:16:08humans with machine, there's no laws, there's no restrictions that you have to
- 1:16:14get around, because you've already implanted that into these young children's head, and
- 1:16:19the older generation will already be dead by that time, so there'll be nothing
- 1:16:24stopping the emergence of AI and machine into human beings. That's the agenda.
- 1:16:32That's what I see it as. That's what I've always seen it as,
- 1:16:36and it's a really scary thing. It's very scary, and that is the
- 1:16:43way that they want to push this new world that is trying to be created.
- 1:16:50And we have an option, we have a decision. We can go
- 1:16:55that way, or we can stop it now and and do something different before
- 1:17:01it's too late, which I don't really think that it's ever really too late.
- 1:17:05There's always something that you can do, but it seems more and more
- 1:17:11like we're getting further into this technological, cyborg AI driven reality. I mean,
- 1:17:21there was a professor and scientists that I just read an article about earlier
- 1:17:27before we got on the show, that was talking about that AI is going
- 1:17:30to be in twenty years more advanced than any human on the planet. I
- 1:17:42mean, to me, that's a frightening thing. And I understand that technology
- 1:17:46can be a good thing. You know, our oceans are polluted. It
- 1:17:53wouldn't be great if there was great technology to skim all the pollution out of
- 1:18:00out of the ocean so that the planet could thrive. Right, But when
- 1:18:06when you're talking about you know, something that like you've suggested, you know,
- 1:18:11I don't even know, Like it's not my forte but and and just
- 1:18:16like there's always good and bad, you know, there can there can both
- 1:18:20sides exist. So you know, I just think people need to have a
- 1:18:26a barometer, you know, a moral barometer. Uh and and hopefully we
- 1:18:31all, you know what, cross our fingers that people that have access to
- 1:18:35technology have a moral barometer. So but I will say that we all just
- 1:18:43need to we all just need to start living in a in a more deliberate
- 1:18:49way for sure. I agree absolutely, and Lauren thinks so much for coming
- 1:18:59on and telling me and telling my audience about your experiences. I hope everyone
- 1:19:05enjoyed it, really appreciate it. Can you let people know where to find
- 1:19:10you online website or anything like that? Saron, Thanks, I've really enjoyed
- 1:19:15this writer, and I hope your audience has enjoyed it as well. So
- 1:19:19I have a website, It's Laurenthshaman dot com. Awesome. The link to
- 1:19:29that website is in the description of this video. Thank you so much everyone
- 1:19:32for being here, Gig and Noble Truth, Marissa Adam Savagely, anybody else
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- 1:20:00you guys next time. Laurence stay with me, mm hmm.