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Issue 334: The Force of Physical Media · Aggressive Negotiations: A Star Wars Podcast

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  Welcome to the nerd polity. Hi, this is Nick Nastasu, story editor
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  on Star Wars, The Clone Wars and Star Wars bad Batch, and you
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  are listening to aggressive negotiations. Hello, and welcome to aggressive negotiations coming at
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  you from I'm not even actually sure where we're from, Babe, we're Is
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  this a purgl we're writing on? I'm just one of your hosts, Matthew
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  Rushing and with me as he is every single week, the illustrious John Mills.
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  So, if purgol or space whales, are there space nar walls?
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  That's my question? Ooh, and what would the difference of capability be?
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  Does a space like do you have to take a purgol to go to somewhere
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  else, but then you have to take a space nar whall which moves backwards
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  back from somewhere else maybe I'm just katie. Or does the does their horn
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  make them even better at traversing even faster through subspace? Like? Yes,
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  like a directional beacon sort of thing. Yes, ye, exactly, there
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  we go, space norwalls. That's our new thing. Well, there you
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  go, yep. I can't wait to see it, Dave, make it
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  find us online at the Nerdparty dot com. So go to all those places
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  and interact with us. But John, we were discussing this, and I
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  think this is interesting. We've gotten the announcement about the fact that physical media
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  is returning, and we're getting the Mandalorian season one and two. It looks
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  like season three is going to be released next year as well, and we're
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  also hoping and that means we'll get you one of the Clone Wars on you
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  know these type of things as well, Bad Batch. So why first,
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  I mean, why do you think all of a sudden, it seems as
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  though Disney is making this turn towards physical media again and especially putting these things
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  in four K. Honestly, I think it's because they have heard everybody's complaints.
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  Well, I think it's multi factorial. Let me let me throw this
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  out there. I think that you and I have talked about like wanting to
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  embrace physical media. We like owning things, and we also have talked about
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  how we like the extras. We like holding onto things. But I'll go
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  ahead and throw it out there. I don't think that Disney Plus is sustainable.
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  I think that they've discovered that it's not the money maker they thought it
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  was going to be, and they're going back to physical media because they got
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  no choice. It's the only way that they're gonna I mean, think about
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  it. If a movie bombed in the past, bomb being a relative term,
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  Let's take the one that everybody thinks was a bomb solo, a Star
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  Wars story. Solo A Star Wars story did have a four K release and
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  a four K limit. It helps defray the costs. Nowadays, physical media
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  is pennies to make and dollars to make in reverse. Right, so your
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  margin, your profit margin, is huge, and you've created a thing where
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  you'll get at least the completests. You'll get the people that love it,
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  you'll get the people that want to give it another shot, all that type
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  of stuff, instead of having them just be part of a big pool of
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  money. Now they're giving you forty fifty bucks. Well, I mean,
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  it just it's interesting to me because you know, Disney cut its teeth on
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  physical media, and I mean they cornered the market on how to get people
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  to buy physical media over and over and over again. You know, in
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  fact, they're actually about to do it right now with there they're bringing pictures
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  out like Cinderella and Snow White where they've gone back and cleaned up the negatives
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  and give it in a new transfer and put it on four KSE so you
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  have the best presentation that it's probably ever looked right. And you know,
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  I think to me, that's the thing that Star Wars also did. George
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  did the same thing right. I mean, he really understood from Disney how
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  to do this. And so when you're going to give fans the opportunity to
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  yes, they can always have it on Disney Plus right where they can pull
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  it up and watch it anytime, but to allow fans to have on their
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  shelf beautiful steel book editions of the Mandalorian seasons one and two and then three.
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  It will come and I'm sure they'll do the book a boa fit,
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  and you know, I'm sure we'll get Canobi and all of these shows right
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  that, Yes, it becomes about you know, you're going to get the
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  completests who will go out and just buy it, because even if they don't
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  even watch it, because it sits on their shelf, you know, well,
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  you just made fifty bucks that you would never have had because of that.
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  And so but I also think that they're realizing too that it's hard to
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  keep people invested if in fandom, if you don't allow those things to happen.
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  Well, yes, absolutely. And also the act of grabbing a desk
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  and putting in a player, there's intent there. I have a different level
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  of viewing than I'm just scanning the channels the way I used to scan point
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  the channels with the remote. Right sah, yeah, I'll watch a piece
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  of this. I go on the shelf. This is a special experience now.
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  And additionally, before home video market, Star Wars got rereleased and it
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  kept adding to its box office. Well what if there was a way you
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  could add to the box office in a similar fashion without having to pay a
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  distributor. It's the original streaming when you think about it. Only the price
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  point is it's higher for me because if you give it shiny new packaging,
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  you talk about how great the transfer is, and here are some extras you
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  cannot get on streaming. Well, you just baited the hook for a lot
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  of people who say, oh yeah, but this is this is the anniversary
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  addition. If they're really slick, If they're really slick, they find a
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  way to make the like talk up the presentation that this is the only way
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  you can get a certain type of experience or a certain type of sound is
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  only on the disc because I cannot promise you the bandwidth, the bit rate
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  necessary to get right Dolby surround sound to you. Well, and that's you
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  know, I mean, anybody who knows anything about physical media in the first
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  place knows that it's going to be the best presentation you can get because it's
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  uncompressed. If they do the transfer to the disc right, if they do
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  it on a big enough disc, you're going to have the best look.
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  You know. I feel the same way, you know, thinking about this
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  idea of you know what, I hope comes and they better give it to
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  us. The Bad Match as well as the final season of the Clone Wars
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  are both in four K. Now, the original Clone Wars series was not
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  done in four K. This these seasons were so if they don't give us
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  those in four K. I mean you're you're basically one, you're leaving money
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  on the table because you're you're allowed to charge a higher price point and people
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  will pay it. But two, you're depriving us as fans, the best
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  version of those shows that deserve to be seen in that format, and that
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  would be a travisty. You want to make the ultimate collector's edition that would
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  make you so much money for Star Wars fans. And I know we're in
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  the speculative here, and I'd probably cause any company to fold with any of
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  my ideas, so I completely you know, hey, I you know,
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  I may work in marketing, but that doesn't mean all of my ideas are
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  good. But I would position myself to make a dollar and a cent release
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  an addition of the complete Clone Wars. That's fine enough. You can bait
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  the hook with that with long lost interviews with George Lucas from the making of
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  and felony like stuff that would be really enticing to longtime fans. But additionally,
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  you know how they love to release like alternate versions of stuff each season.
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  You basically double up the disks, and let's say you have season one
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  through whatever. Okay, by individuals. You can even break it out and
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  buy individual seasons. And that's all released in release order, right, so
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  that people like me who prefer that can can just do that release a complete
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  set, and the discs are broken up, so you have a release order
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  series of discs and a chronological series of discs with the movie worked in.
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  Yep, there you go. You would have the gold rush bonanza of a
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  lifetime. The only one that winds up sitting like completely out on its own,
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  I think, would wind up being the final season, isn't it?
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  Nothing is set during the earlier seasons in the final season, is it?
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  It's been a while since Sun Up. Yeah, no, the final season
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  all is I mean, it's all after the Clone Wars ended, which was
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  the Soco walking away and and and I mean because even the lost missions,
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  all of those took place. I think technically no, because well, for
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  the lost missions, wasn't the the Five's arc had certain episodes that happened earlier
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  in chronology. But regarless, this does allow you. Yeah, no,
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  I think you're absolutely right, you know, And you know again, to
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  me, I think them doing this is incredibly smart and it makes me very
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  very happy, you know. I love to see the fact that you know,
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  the Mandalorian getting the four K release, and I feel like, please,
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  All I can say is, do not negate fans appreciation of animation in
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  our desire to have animation in four K by not giving us those seasons that
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  are in four K on that format, especially when you can see Disney at
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  this point is doing the same thing with its original animated films and giving us
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  in that presentation. Well, let me throw this out there too. It
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  should be possible for them to upscale animation, Like wouldn't it lend itself to
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  upscaling even better than live action? I mean, I'm sure you absolutely can
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  make it happen and again. And that's where I think you know you want
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  to do something incredibly cool and get fans. It's like to spend one hundred
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  and twenty dollars give them every season of the Clone Wars, and the only
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  way you can get it on four K is with the entire set. I
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  mean, who's not going to buy that. I'm a notorious penny pincher and
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  I would buy that the day. I would preorder it today if you promised
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  it to me. Yep, I can talk myself out of any purchase on
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  Earth. But that's one where I'd be like ooh ooh, yeah, yeah,
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  I need that one. Well, I I just you know, when
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  I think about this idea, and we were just talking about this, you
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  know, before we started recording, and you know, going back to a
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  thing that is important for every phantom, which is the feeling of ownership you
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  have when you are able to pull out the disk and put it in and
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  you watch that. There's something special about that, right, Like you know,
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  I own the entire four K set of all nine Saga films because they
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  can aim in a set. It's a really nice set, it was,
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  and it's worth owning because I've got them all. I've got them in the
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  best presentation that you can have them, you know, And so I think
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  that's the thing to me that is exciting about this. I'm very excited,
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  you know, to have the Mandalorian in this format. I've I've pre ordered
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  them and like you said, you give fans the opportunity to do this,
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  and you're just printing money. I mean, Disney again learned this very long
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  time ago. You can print money by giving people the opportunity to own things,
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  and you can do it multiple times. So you know, it's that's
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  the brilliance I think of this move, because people are not going to stop
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  subscribing to Disney Plus because they own the Mandalorian on disk, because they're still
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  always the convenience. There's the new things that are coming out that they can
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  still own and get there, you know. So that's that's going to be
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  the case. But you're just going to be making extra money. And you
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  know, if we've seen anything about Hollywood right now is they could use a
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  little extra money. And given the fact that this will become relevant again,
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  physical media becomes attractive all over akin because guess what no commercials? How sad
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  is it that we have to point that one out? Yep? Yeah,
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  that there you go, There you go, Which is another reason that people
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  might go out and buy these sets because maybe they're going to a lower version
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  of Disney plots where they're going to have commercials now and buying the set allows
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  them to not have commercials when they want to watch their favorite Star Wars show.
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  So yeah, it's a great it's a great thing. It's a it's
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  a it's a it's a good announcement. I think it's good for fandom and
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  I'm so excited that this is happening. But you know, John, if
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  people wanted to see what else is happening with you these days, where would
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  they catch up with you? Look for me Online's Castle Junkie. You should
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  know that by now, And of course you can find me co hosting another
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  show here on the network called House Lights with Tristan Riddell and Darren Moser.
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  We have a good time with that. But also I have been known to
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  appear in a show over on the TFM network called The six o two Club,
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  which I believe is hosted by you, mister Matthew Rushing. Yes it
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  is, and you can find me there. Of course, I'm all over
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  social media under the Mount Rushing Zoe two. When I'm not in the six
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  o two Club or doing aggressive negotiations, you can find me here on the
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  Nerve Party Network with a completed show called owl Post doing that, did that
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  with Drea Kaufman, as we talked about every single chapter of the Harry Potter
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  series over on the TFM network. When I'm not in the six o two
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  Club, you'll find me on Five Literary Tricks, The Orb Saddle Up,
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  and The Artificial Tango but John, you know, I hear the chimes of
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  the Jedi Temple. I think it's time for ice cream Sunday, a night
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  which I'm really excited about. So I think it's time to close these negotiations.
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  It's better than Lightsaber Taco Tuesday. Master Rushing. Negotiations are closed.
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