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Kenny on Performing Live, Memphis Music, and Overcoming Industry Challenges · The Scene Projects

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Alright.
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It's your boy, Pablo.
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One time, we are back live in the vault, man.
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I got a very, very, very, very, very, very, very special guest in the building, man.
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I got Dash Kenny in the building, man.
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What's going on, brother?
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What's up?
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What's up, bro?
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How you doing?
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Yes, sir.
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I'm doing good, man.
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I'm honored to have you here, man.
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And I've been seeing you blazing stages.
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I've been seeing you working with AJ, and and I've seen you with the wrap off league.
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Crazy, man.
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Kenny, I've been seeing you do your thing, man.
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Tell us a little bit about yourself, where you come from, and just know what I'm saying?
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A little bit a little introduction.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I got you.
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I got you.
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Hey.
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Well, I appreciate that, man, because, like, it's, I've definitely been putting in the the
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footwork this year, the groundwork, and it's good to know that it it is reaching.
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Shouts out to you know, it's a team effort.
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But, for me personally, man, like, I've been doing music for fifteen years.
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And past three, I think it's like I've hit that different level because, you know, there's a
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separation between just doing music and just rapping and doing being an artist and having to
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Yes, sir.
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Do all this other stuff.
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And, like, the other stuff has been kind of the issue with me.
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Like, you know, I was not a good live performer until, like, very recently.
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You can ask people close to me.
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And, it's it's good to see the growth, man.
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It's an honor to be here.
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It's an honor to be an honored guest.
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You know?
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That's like a, you know, that's a step.
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Like, I like to, every every step is part of the every step is part is still a blessing and
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part of it.
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You know?
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It's part the growth, man.
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It's part of the growth process, Kenny.
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And you know what?
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I can't walk in your shoes, brother.
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So I can't I can't judge your growth off my growth, and that's why it's so important for
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artists like yourself.
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So when you're on social media, don't be on social media to look so much and consuming
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because you're gonna start getting discouraged.
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You're start seeing your brother, your partner over here growing.
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You gotta be become the creator of the of the social media.
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So now it's like, you know what?
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I'm right here where I'm at.
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I'm right here where God got me at, and I'm good right here, man.
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So yeah, man.
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And you what's crazy is I never know you couldn't I I didn't this new to me.
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I I didn't know you couldn't perform live because everything I've seen with the wrap off
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league, bro, you've been killing killing it, dawg.
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So Man, man.
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How has how has that growth been, like, the the actual live performance?
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Like, how did you how what what happened?
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Did it come from you just seeing yourself, like, having that having your your your footage
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in front of you saying, you what?
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I'm about to go home and do some groundwork, read the playbooks, and go do the real work, or
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is it like you seeing other artists performing and saying, you know what?
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Damn.
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Let me incorporate this into my performance.
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Let me try this.
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Like, how did how did they go about your transition from a, you know, a kinda nervous
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artist on stage to, like, you know what?
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Give me that goddamn microphone.
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I'm about to kill it.
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Yeah.
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It's funny you say that because it's everything you mentioned, it's watching other artists
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getting advice.
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Shout out to Tom.
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Man, I know I blew his phone up a lot this year.
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And he gave me some of the most best direct advice.
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But, honestly, I didn't break through on stage until I kinda just quit giving a damn and just,
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like you know?
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Like, I'm comfortable up there now.
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And, like Kenny.
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Kenny, I I gotta I gotta think I gotta think I say, Kenny.
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I I say the only way to gain control is to lose control.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Exactly what it is.
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You know, I just, I know that I'm not out there for, like you know, it's not the end of the
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world and whatnot.
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And I think as artists, we put a lot of pressure on ourselves to be great or be the
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vision that we wanna see ourselves as in our head.
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But Right.
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This past year, man, it's been really about just getting them reps in and, you know,
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learning.
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And it's like the little stuff, like move, you know, know, when to use your backing track,
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when to not use your backing track, the,
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you know, the Right.
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The nuts and bolts of it.
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But at the end of the day, man, it's all about you just gotta go out there and send it and,
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like I'm be real.
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I'm be real, Kenny.
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If, Kenny, if you if you're talking about using Kenny, Kenny, if you're talking about using
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backing tracks and not using backing tracks, man, you're, like, three steps ahead of most
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artists already.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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Well, my favorite rapper like, my favorite rapper is Lupe Fiasco.
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And, like, he uses a live
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band record.
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So, like
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yes, sir.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Shout out, man.
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Shout out Chicago.
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I ain't never been, but shouts out Chicago.
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And then Memphis is Chicago connection heavy, though.
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Oh, yeah.
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Sure.
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Sure.
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But, so, like, all of my, like, I have a really big, thing about one to be as true to the craft
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as I can be.
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And, kinda like, you know, like, the old philosophy of it was, you know, you don't use
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backing tracks.
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You don't use vocals or whatever.
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You gotta rep your entire verses.
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And, like, I don't think that's necessarily don't have to do that.
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That's not a requirement anymore, but I would like to be able to do it.
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Right.
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And that's kinda my goal going forward with the live shows.
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Yeah, man.
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I love it, bro.
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I love it.
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As a artist, I'm a be real, man.
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I don't I don't take too much from independent artists.
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Like, when I see artists performing on stages and I don't I don't care how dope they are.
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I just feel like, you know, we're on the same mission.
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So I'm I'm I'm I'm kinda like this.
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I I I think I'm thankful that god had put me in a stage to where, man, I'm on stage dancing
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like Mike, bro.
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I'm on stage getting it like I'm on I'm on stage doing some craziness, man, and to where
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I'm seeing myself on stage and other artists.
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I'm like, dude, dude moving like me, man.
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Like, hold on, bro.
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You weren't moving like that a year ago, bro.
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look at that.
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You moving like that, bro.
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And it's like, it feels good, but it's all it it's not like, oh my god.
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These these my sons.
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It's like it's like, you know what?
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I'm doing something good here, and I'm on I'm on the right track because, obviously, people
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are seeing me.
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And, you know, I'm a say this, though.
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If you out there trying to trying to use my ad lids and stuff, we got a problem out here.
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Oh, yeah.
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That's different.
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Yeah.
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That's violation.
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But, like, yeah.
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No.
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It's a it's a shout out to Big Curse.
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He gave me this, like, metaphor about all of this being a tree, and it is, man.
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Like, it's like, because I'm kinda the opposite.
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I'm I'd be really big fans of my my peers.
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You know?
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Like, I'm not ashamed to say that I'm a fan of these folks.
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Like, like, shout out, young gangsta AJ, man.
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Like, they bro, the energy, like, it's like I I study, hip hop in general.
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So, like, to have, like, these folks who I mean, I guess they're my colleagues, but, like,
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a lot of them are, like, you know, my homies and shit.
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Like, watching everybody just get, like, good at, like, you know, level up like this
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together, it's a it's a hell of a thing, man.
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And it's like, you know, we all build each other up, then we can just, like, have, like,
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one of them, like, 800 year old trees.
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You know?
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They're Right.
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They're forever.
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You know?
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Never stop.
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I think that, think that there's definitely, like, positions to play in it too because,
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like, it's like, Trippie Tributes.
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That's another crazy, like, you know, live performer.
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Like, I learned a lot from, watching him.
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I learned a lot from, Cody crazy.
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I learned a lot from everybody, but at the end of the day, that didn't make me good on stage.
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That made me like, the letting go part was what made me, finally get good on stage because you
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can't you can't duplicate.
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You can't ever duplicate.
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It all has to build.
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Like, when you're building your craft, we're all products of our influences, but you don't
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ever wanna be a copy.
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You know?
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See, Kenny Kenny, a lot of people don't even know, man, that for a long time, Pablo one time
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was in the living room surrounded by eight mirrors, man.
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I would do nothing besides dance all day.
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I would just get in the mirror, and I would cut my music off, like and be like, no.
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I can't spin right here.
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If I spin right there, I can't come out to spin early enough to even hit the burst in time.
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It's like, bro, I'm I'm I'm in my I'm in my socks sliding around to them in around the
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living room.
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And but I was getting ready to go on tour with Bubba, and I said, you know what?
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I gotta go out here as the goddamn fool, man.
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I can't I can't be on stage all stiff, man.
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And I said, you know what?
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Man, that's the background work that most artists ain't doing, bro.
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I started, what you doing?
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I I started taking the taking the lyrics out of my songs, man.
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I said, you know, I'm a leave the the hook in the chorus, but I need to learn his goddamn
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lyrics.
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And so X.
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When I
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met Bubba bro, when I met Bubba, he came with a guitar.
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Nigga, ain't no DJ with a guitar, brother.
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You know?
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I'm
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like I'm like, damn.
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I gotta I gotta and and now I'm on stage with a guitar and a band, and I didn't forgot my
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words.
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But the the people don't know that.
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Right?
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And so I was like, I said, okay.
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Okay.
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Well, let me catch myself and go back to the first verse.
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Fuck you talking about?
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And I was like, damn.
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It's just
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that easy.
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Bro, it's just that easy.
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And so what me and Bubba started doing is we was like, you know what?
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To make the song a little longer, we'll go through the first the first verse twice, then
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hit the hit the second verse, and then and the song got.
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And I said, you know what?
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Bro, it came like that on accident because I forgot my lyrics.
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But it it it it
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Best things happen on accident.
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And when you get that live band too, you can adjust on the fly.
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Like, that's something I really, really would think, would help me a lot as well.
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Because, like, sometimes we wanna do different shit.
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Like, it's on the you know?
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Bro, come on, bro.
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Let's come on.
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We we yeah, man.
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We Like We we've
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been doing these jamming sessions and these open mic nights and these open jam sessions to
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all the artists out there.
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I've been holding these open mic nights and open jam, but I got a real live band.
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This is a good time for artists to come get a feel on how it feels to perform with a band and
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for artists to get the footage, man.
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The good footage.
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This is good marketing material, man.
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Say, hey.
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I I got a band.
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And you you go to a venue with a band, you you ask for $800.
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You know?
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It's like the the band, they gonna they gonna take care of half the show.
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You you gonna you gonna put $200 in your pocket, pay the band 500, put put 3 in your
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pocket, pay the band 500.
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And, bro, you gonna get on stage for thirty minutes, let the band do their thing?
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Bro, you won.
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Bro, you gonna have the old heads happy?
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You gonna have the new like, the the the kids happy?
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It's like you'll be like it's everybody's gonna, you know, get the stamp of approval
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because,
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like Everybody.
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You're really out there.
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And it's fun rapping with with live instruments, man.
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Like, that's one of the most fun things, like, in this, in my opinion.
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I I love rapping over instruments.
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I just had never gotten a chance to do it live, and, I'd like to do a live album one day.
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That's really, on the on the bucket list for sure.
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Mhmm.
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But I definitely agree, though.
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That's that's, I'm try What's up?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I I didn't mean to cut you off, brother.
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But, man, Memphis is saturated Memphis is saturated with good artists.
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I mean, there's so much talent out here.
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It's crazy, bro.
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What's been your biggest challenge, man, of standing out?
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What's been your biggest your biggest challenge to say, you know what?
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Hey.
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Look, motherfuckers.
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I know it's a million of us, but I'm that skinny, motherfucker.
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You know, what's been your biggest challenge, man?
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I've I've gotta lean into me being weird and me being, like, the lyricist, like, the lupe
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fiasco type, you know, person in this, ecosystem because, and I've got I've got, like,
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bangers.
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I've got songs that, you know, I've made.
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I've got a trap album coming out, beginning of next year called Kenneth the Menace.
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But right now, I'm working on, like, a Wu Chang type, you know, album with my brother Sympho.
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I think that my my what makes me different?
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What makes me a one on one?
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And, shout out to the rep off league because they stamped me.
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They they they told me I was a one on one.
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So that's like, you know, that that was a cool day in the group chat.
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But, like, I gotta lean on being me.
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I can't ever, like, let it just become like, I'm making these songs because I think that
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this is what people want.
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I need to be making these songs.
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Do but not you you wanna make a song that everybody likes and the people want, but you
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wanna make sure that you're not derivative or you're not, you know, just trying to follow a
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blueprint of the next person because what works for the next person won't work for you.
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And, yeah, Memphis is packed, bro.
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I know about 50 artists that should be millionaires right now.
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Like like, real deal, and they all unique.
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And, like, it's, it's insane, man.
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I know it ain't like this in other cities, but, like, we really got something special going on
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here.
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And I think that, they sleeping on us, bro.
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Like, really,
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like Bro, bro.
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No.
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No.
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No, Kenny.
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That hey.
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That's Kenny.
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No.
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No one's sleeping on you.
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You are sleeping on you.
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Kenny, let me tell you this right here.
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Gonna tell you a little quick secret.
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Yeah.
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If if if you was to come together with, I say, five other artists from Memphis, Tennessee
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right now that you know for a fact, pop it.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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Oh, if you was to go to St.
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Louis right now, I swear for god, bro.
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You'll take over, bro.
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Take over, bro.
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Oh, bro.
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Shout out to, shouts out to we went we went to Springfield or whatever.
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Shout out to CPM and.
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We went to Springfield, like, they shout out to Springfield, man.
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That was a great show.
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Shout out to my boy, Sadboy Glitch out there.
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Like, it's a see, I've done a little bit of the out of town stuff, but I I wanna do more, man.
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Like, it's like, I've I've, you know, with Lagodi, they put me on stage in Minnesota,
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Minneapolis, in front of about 500 people.
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That was amazing, but I wanna do more.
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Like, it's like, I've, I've gotten really kind of hip to how this works a little bit more.
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And, you know, now that I'm fully independent, it's all on me.
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So, yeah, man, I would love to, like, just click up with, you know, four or five, you
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know, Memphis underground rap avengers and go do the damn thing.
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Like, that's that's that's the goal.
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Like and it's like, it may just be hard trying to pick the five, man, because, like,
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everybody, you wanna bring 15, but, like, you can't bring 15.
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You gotta let you know.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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And you gotta make sure I've been trying to make sure I'm thinking about, like, how the
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music curates, how the the set list would go, how the, like, it's really the other ends of
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this stuff because, like, man, music and, like, writing poetry, that that's, you know, that's
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that's me.
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That's in me.
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That's like, my my mama gave that to me.
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So, like, that ain't going nowhere.
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All this other stuff, I've had to learn because I'm not really really not even a musically
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inclined person to be, to be honest with you, but I you know, this is the best way for me to
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get my thoughts out.
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And, like, I I fell in love with hip hop when I was, like, 14, and I've just a lot of it's been
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a learning process.
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And, it's crazy.
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If you would've if I would've known that I'd be able to mix and master my own music, you know,
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one day, like, when I was, like, 15, I you know?
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It's crazy because, like, I never really envisioned myself as a musician, but I always
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envisioned myself as a writer.
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But now I couldn't envision myself as anything other than a musician, a hip hop artist.
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You know?
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Right.
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So, man, I was I was talking.
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I had an interview I had an interview yesterday.
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Big shout out to to Wild Willie.
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And he asked me a really, really serious question, man.
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And he do got a dope podcast.
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You'll you'll meet him here pretty soon, man.
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Like I said, this this is a big tunnel system, bro.
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Once you get in with Pablo, bro, you you you're gonna be an interview, motherfucker.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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And which which is good for you because now the world can see what you got going on with new
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albums coming out, new shows, new this on different platforms.
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Right?
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It's like you can you can say, hey.
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Go check me out on this interview over here on Wild Willie.
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I'm on the scene probably with Bubba Starks over here in South Dakota, and I'm in I'm I'm
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over here with Pablo in Memphis with Black Sheet Kid Music.
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So, bro, welcome to the family.
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Welcome to the family, bro.
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But what he asked me was how did music play a role into saving my life, man?
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Music saved my life.
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I'm a army veteran.
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I lost my mom, man, and and I really went through it when she died, man.
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And music became it was always like that.
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It's like it was it was more than just the religion.
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Music was almost like God.
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You know?
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It was almost like everything, bro.
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And so Yeah.
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How did how did music play a part into where you at right now?
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Like, music really saved me, dawg.
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Like, real talk, bro.
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Bro, no cap.
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Aside from the military service, it's almost the same type of story.
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My mom, she had cancer.
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She passed away January 17, twenty twenty four last year after a long battle.
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Mine's too, bro.
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I've been around the ball I'm so sorry for your loss, brother.
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Yeah.
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Know Sorry
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for your loss,
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brother.
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Goes on.
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It hurts, man.
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I've been around the block with, you know, just substances and just, you know, like, a whole
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bunch of stuff I wasn't, you know Same here, bro.
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Involved in.
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Same here, bro.
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And, like, When my mom got sick, I knew I had to be alright, and I knew that music was a way
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for me to be alright.
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So I just dove headfirst back into music.
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That was 2022, and, I haven't let my foot off the gas yet.
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And I'm sure probably a mirror image of your own story in, in its own way.
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Bro, bro.
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This is a potential for my survival, bro.
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Like, this is This is crazy.
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Bro, thank you, man.
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Thank you, bro.
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Like, this is confirmation that I'm on I'm on the right track here.
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I'm on the right track moms, man.
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Man, shout out to moms out there.
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You got moms out there still living?
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Kiss her for us right now, for me and Kenny, man.
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Kiss your mom for Pablo and Kenny today.
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You know?
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That's really
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But, man, Kenny so you you you you you you you get into, like, the the substance abuse thing,
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man.
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Me being an army veteran on top of all the craziness I went in went through in the
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service, I come out here and lose my mom.
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Boy, I'm telling you, bro, I'm a I'm a felon now.
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I I had never had no prior law enforcement history.
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I'm a felon now.
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I had never done no drugs, top pills, and all that kind of crazy stuff.
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But once mom died, it was like, you know what?
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I didn't really give a damn, man.
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In the midst of all that the midst of going through that tunnel, man, music found me.
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I I found myself surrounded by my little homies.
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They wanna freestyle all day.
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You know?
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And so we start we start recording on face on YouTube, just making little YouTube videos,
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putting them on YouTube, and that that turned into us starting to beat on the beat on the on
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on the table, start starting to go in and get beats.
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And now I got a full blown studio, bro.
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So, yeah, music literally saved my life, man.
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And it's great to hear that, you know, it's not just it it's it's not just about me, but this
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thing it's it's it's done this for a lot of people.
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You know?
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It's a network, bro.
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This is this how we get this is how we grow.
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This is how we leave a legacy.
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I always say that, you know, I'm not worried about death because through music, I'm
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immortal.
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Like, sound waves never die.
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That's big fact.
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Like you know?
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And, from the first time I made like, I've been doing this half my life now, which is crazy to
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say.
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Like, I can't I'm so happy I I made it to the point where I can say I've been doing music my
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half my life.
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Right.
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But, like, from the first time, like, I thought I wasn't gonna be no rep, but it was like I
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was, like, writing, like, short stories and stuff, like you know?
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And when nobody was rereading them, Juntz.
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And I was like, man, I need to get heard because, like, you know, every writer wants to
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get heard.
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So I was like, I like, randomly just, like, got really, really into, like, Lupe Fiasco, Nas,
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and just went down, like, this, you know, the ultra lyricist type of rabbit hole hip hop.
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And the first time I spit a verse and get recorded it on a bootleg ass HP mini m p three
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recorder, I didn't even have Audacity, I, like, played it back.
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I was, like, oh, it's over with.
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This is what I'm do the rest of my life.
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And, it continues to come back and save me and come in clutch when I need it because, like,
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I've gone astray.
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I've, like, I've, you know, messed up.
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I got one of I'm trying to cuss less.
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So I've messed up a lot in my life.
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I've made the wrong decisions.
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And music has always been there to catch me, like or, you know, provide that safety net to
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get through it.
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And I I think that a lot of people feel that way.
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I think a lot of people resonate with that, and I'm I'm blessed to be in that, that subgenre of
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rappers, I think.
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Yeah, man.
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It's it's so crazy.
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You say you you just want to be a writer.
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You you wanted to be a writer.
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Bro, I I've been bro, bro, we're gonna get together.
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We're gonna get together after this Zoom call, and I'm gonna give you some sauce so you never
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stop writing, Kenny, because, bro, I make a I make good money writing, dog.
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And and and just short stories, and and I I'm actually a published author, and I on my mama
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grave, dog.
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By next week, bro, you're gonna be a published author, bro, on my mama grave, bro.
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Word.
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Word, bro.
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On mama grave,
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Okay.
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Bro, and and and you
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bro, bro, I'm gonna put you on game, bro.
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I'm a I'm a send you a link.
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And when you download the link, we both gonna get paid.
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You know what I'm saying?
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But it's gonna create it's gonna create you a platform to where you can share your stories.
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It could be stories about volcanoes, stories about artists, stories about what's going on in
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music culture, stories about what's going on in Memphis.
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Any story you want, bro, as long as it's 600 words, bro, you get paid.
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Wow.
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Okay.
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That's the man.
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I'm a journalist.
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I'm a I'm a I hey, bro.
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When you're doing this music thing, bro, you need you need seven to eight, nine different
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streams of income, dawg.
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Yeah.
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I I realized that.
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That's been the that's another big hurdle this year.
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Like, I've had to sacrifice.
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Like, I've had to really, you know, because, you know, you have to invest in yourself to to
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do this music.
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And, like, I really have had to put a lot on the back burner and, like, not address things
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that I need to address because I'm trying to do I'm I'm doing with music.
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Like, it ain't no other I put it off so many times in my life, but getting the money or
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making money off of your talents is, like, a big hurdle.
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And, like, that's something I'm still trying to get over.
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Bro, that what you need, bro.
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That's what
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you need.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But You
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need merch, bro.
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You need merch.
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That's it.
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I need merch.
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And, here, let me, I'm terrible about not plugging my what I'm what I need to plug.
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So go let me go on and, plug this stuff, if that's cool.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's cool, bro.
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Alright.
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So for those of y'all who don't know, my name is That's Kenny, capital t, capital k, no
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space.
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So it's That's Kenny.
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You know, no space.
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It's, pretty simple.
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There's one other dude named that, but he makes Lo Fi Beach to chill to.
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I'm the other dude.
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I'm I'm I'm me.
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So, right now, I've got a lot of stuff going on, man.
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Me and, my brother, Crown Bossology, are about to drop this fire ass music video for a song we
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got called rules and regulations, and it will be my first music video ever.
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And y'all, like, folks have wanted me to do music videos for so many songs, and I said no.
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I was like, nope.
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I'm waiting on the right time.
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I'm waiting on the right song.
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Waiting on the right thing.
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When I say this is the right thing, like, I I mean it, man.
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Like, it's it's crazy.
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I won't give away any details, but it's I'm so it's a dope ass first video.
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And, we got a lot of people involved.
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We're gonna bring out we gotta do one more day of filming.
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We're we're gonna be, you know, bringing the whole everybody out and shit, and, that joint
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gonna do at least 10 k.
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Like, I'm not even go I don't I'm not even like that.
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I don't know when I say stuff like that, but that joint doing at least 10,000, like, off the
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rip not off the rip, but it's gonna be at 10,000.
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So that's the the music video that's that'll be dropping in the near future.
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And then I've got, really, it started as a passion project.
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Me and my brother, Simpho, who, that man damn near the man is better than me at making music
22:38
at this point, so I can't really call the name of protege, but, like, it's that type of
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relationship, I guess.
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But, he's out in Oregon.
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We made this, like, boom bap album, like, all hip hop album last year.
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We started making it called double edged sword, and it is finally finished.
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I'm dropping the second single.
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We're dropping the second single from it on October 3, this next Friday.
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And this album is like it's all the all hip hop stuff that all my, like, old homies, you know,
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from back in the day saying that I changed up and don't do that anymore.
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I don't you know, I'm trying to appeal or whatever.
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This is the answer to that, because, like, this is this is the album I wanted to make when I
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was 15.
23:17
You know?
23:18
And, say, I could have done it without Sympho.
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He did a lot of the heavy lifting on it, and he, really, like, it's dope to watch somebody
23:25
grow, man, and, like, have an influence on somebody and watch them just, like, excel,
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like, because, I didn't have nothing to do with that, man.
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He did all that himself.
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And, like, now I'm inspired by him.
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Like, I'm I'm on album.
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Like, man, I gotta get my verses up.
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I gotta rewrite that verse.
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Hold on.
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And, like, it's one of those albums, man.
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If you love hip hop, you're gonna love, double edged sword.
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You're gonna love this single we got coming out on, the next Friday, October 3.
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And, other than that, man, I've got music everywhere, bro.
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I've got two albums.
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I got, Helen Great Heights, my debut, won an award voted by fans, supporters, strangers, the
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hood.
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So I'm only Ruben who was hitting the, you know, doing the the groundwork and, getting
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them votes.
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My album nine six till infinity dropped earlier this year.
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I just dropped a mixtape because I I just wanna get that stuff out the vault.
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And I'm working, man.
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We're working.
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I'm I gotta be one of the hardest working artists in the city, man.
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Like, I gotta be.
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Like
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Come on, man.
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Hey.
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Big shout out to you, man.
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Keep working, bro.
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Kenny do that.
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Kenny, right now, man, who is your biggest supporter, bro?
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Who who would you say is your biggest supporter right now, man?
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My biggest supporter.
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It's gotta be, man.
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It's gotta be, like, gotta be my niece.
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Gotta be, like, my little my little niece and my sister, because, you know, like, there ain't
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nothing like you know, kids don't lie, man.
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And, like, when you play the music and the kids like it, like, that's how you got the you got
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the pass or whatever.
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And then, like, I'll hear, like, my niece or whatever.
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I won't I don't wanna go into the details list because there was another rapper involved, but
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a rapper was trying to promote his stuff at a random department store.
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And my niece and my sister were there, and he started talking to them about how he was the
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best, rap yada yada yada yada yada yada.
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My niece just straight up was like, no.
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You're not.
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My uncle is.
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And, like, that's what it's all about, man.
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So that's, like, my biggest supporters.
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And then just my my mom really, bro, because even though she ain't here, bro, she supports
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all this.
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Like, this ain't happening.
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Like like, energy is real and, like, man, it's
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Hey, man.
25:35
Hey.
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Hey.
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I feel the same way, man.
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My mom not here, but she's supporting all this craziness, dog.
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Do need do with
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this other
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smile on my face right now, man.
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My mom would just be here like, yeah.
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That's my baby.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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I'm with it, bro.
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Your answer better than mine's, man.
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My answer was myself.
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I said, I pat my own stuff on the back.
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I hug on myself.
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I go look in the mirror and say, boy, you a bad motherfucker, Pablo.
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Well, I'm so proud of you.
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See, you out here doing what other artists won't do.
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You believing in yourself when you probably shouldn't.
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And when you when you feel depressed, you get on livestream and start inspiring people.
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You're making cold calls.
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You're calling over 25 venues a day.
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Shit.
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Pablo, I'm proud of you, my nigga.
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I I I you your answer better than mine, man.
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I think
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No.
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I like that answer.
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I mean, my kids my I mean, my kids are are good inspiration when it come down to they they make
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me wanna go hard when they come over here and see all daddy's equipment, and they wanna see
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what daddy can do with it.
26:29
But come on, man.
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Who's my biggest supporter?
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She's dead, brother.
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So it's gotta be me.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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Thanks.
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I I really feel the same, but I've, like, you know, the the the, you know, self confidence.
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I think I'm finally breaking through with it, but it it's a journey, man.
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Oh, yeah.
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Most definitely.
26:45
You just said, that's all I'm trying to get.
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Like, next year, I'm trying to be sounding like you know?
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Because, like, I I don't really like I I'm socially awkward.
26:54
I don't really like, you know?
26:55
I remember I was telling, some I was telling Click, well, mister Click to shout out to miss
27:00
Click that, like, there wouldn't be I wouldn't have progressed as far as I have without him.
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I was telling him, bro, what's the problem?
27:05
Why can't you just relax?
27:06
And I'm like, bro, I don't know.
27:08
He's like, something had to do with, like, man was perplexed or whatever.
27:10
And, like, folks will, like, meet me or whatever, I tell him what I do.
27:15
And they're like, that's a hell of a thing for you to do with, like, having anxiety the way
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that you do.
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And I'm like, I'm not gonna they don't stop me.
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Like, that's shit.
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I came through freaking some opiate addiction.
27:24
I came through all this shit.
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Like, anxiety stopped me.
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Like
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Bro, are you are you seeing a green screen?
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I am seeing a green screen.
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And I wish you'd have told me, man.
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It's gonna be all through the recording, man.
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Oh, for real?
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Man, I wish you'd have told me, man.
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Shit.
27:39
Yeah.
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It's all good, though.
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It's all good.
27:41
It's all we edit all this stuff anyway, man.
27:42
It's all good.
27:43
Damn.
27:44
Okay.
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Man.
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As long
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as I got I got
27:46
the I got the vocals.
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You know?
27:48
I got the vocals and and all that good stuff.
27:50
We'd go through and put all kinda craziness ins and outs and stuff and play with it, man, real
27:55
good.
27:55
I got I got a podcast AI system to make it look all good and throw shorts, and you'll have
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shorts shorts to you you have shorts to go out here and show, but if it was all green, like,
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bro, we're have to damn to redo this interview one one day, man, because, yeah, I mean, it's
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just gonna throw it
28:10
The whole thing went green, but I I think I noticed it.
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It was it was a good chunk.
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I didn't wanna