Latest / Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning / Former WOR news director Joe Bartlett interview
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- 0:00Speaker 1: It was July seventeenth, nineteen ninety six, when a TWA
- 0:04Speaker 1: flight eight hundred leaving JFK Airport at eight nineteen at
- 0:08Speaker 1: night bound for Paris blew up just twelve miles away
- 0:14Speaker 1: from JFK Airport, and it was deemed an accident. The
- 0:19Speaker 1: center fuel tank blew after coming a loose electrical wire
- 0:24Speaker 1: and made it blow up. But there's a lot of
- 0:25Speaker 1: people that never bought into that, and now we see
- 0:29Speaker 1: some because of Judicial Watch, some documents, some federal documents
- 0:34Speaker 1: saying that Egypt said that they did it. They were
- 0:37Speaker 1: people in Egypt that just said they sent a missile
- 0:39Speaker 1: up and hit it. Joe Bartlett has been covering this
- 0:44Speaker 1: story for a long time. He is the former news
- 0:47Speaker 1: director now and we want to bring him in on
- 0:49Speaker 1: this conversation. Joe, what do you think of the newest
- 0:53Speaker 1: revelations and what they found with the documents, the federal documents.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Well, I think it's interesting. I don't think there's any
- 1:02Speaker 2: definite connection. But in my opinion, there is no doubt
- 1:06Speaker 2: that this was not a center fuel tank explosion. It
- 1:10Speaker 2: absolutely was not. The thing that struck me right away
- 1:15Speaker 2: is that the initial investigation was done by the FBI.
- 1:19Speaker 2: The FBI came in and took control of this investigation.
- 1:22Speaker 2: This is a plane crash, and ordinarily that is an
- 1:26Speaker 2: investigation that's done by the National Transportation Safety Board. So
- 1:30Speaker 2: you've become suspicious right away, right away. And then the
- 1:35Speaker 2: more you hear about it, the more you got to say,
- 1:37Speaker 2: they're covering something up. And how do you I mean,
- 1:41Speaker 2: I can go on for days, Larry talking about this.
- 1:45Speaker 2: I know Curtis is on my side here, but it's indisputable.
- 1:49Speaker 2: There's hundreds and hundreds of people who testified seeing contrails
- 1:55Speaker 2: going from the ground up towards the plane. There's a
- 1:59Speaker 2: pilot who saw that missile go up and go right
- 2:04Speaker 2: toward the plane and blow it up. That's what happened.
- 2:07Speaker 2: Why they don't want to admit that, I don't know.
- 2:11Speaker 3: You remember, Joe, because you were covering it day after day.
- 2:14Speaker 3: There was Governor Pataki at that time, Al Demotol, the Senator,
- 2:19Speaker 3: and the head of the FBI from the New York Division.
- 2:24Speaker 3: Fourteen months, as you mentioned of that FBI joined terrorism
- 2:28Speaker 3: task was they put the whole jet back together. It
- 2:31Speaker 3: all fell into the ocean, almost piece by piece, and
- 2:35Speaker 3: yet they never satisfied all of us who just never accepted,
- 2:40Speaker 3: as you said, that there was an explosion of the
- 2:44Speaker 3: center wing fuel tank and there was some spark to
- 2:47Speaker 3: a short circuit, even though that had never ever ever
- 2:51Speaker 3: been a problem in any other seven fans.
- 2:53Speaker 2: They couldn't They can't replicate it. They cannot replicate it
- 2:57Speaker 2: because there's not a voltage the creator spark that center
- 3:00Speaker 2: fuel tank.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Yeah. The fact that there are now documents that they
- 3:05Speaker 1: have held for this long saying where Egypt claimed responsibility
- 3:10Speaker 1: and they said they looked into it and couldn't verify it,
- 3:13Speaker 1: brings some new light to this and should should launch
- 3:16Speaker 1: a new investigation.
- 3:17Speaker 2: I would think, I would think, Curtis, you remember Jim Cawstrom.
- 3:21Speaker 2: He was ahead of the FBI at the time, right, Yes, Yeah,
- 3:24Speaker 2: he initially I think there's a quote of him saying
- 3:27Speaker 2: that they do suspect terrorism, and then all of a
- 3:29Speaker 2: sudden he changed his tune and he almost became like
- 3:33Speaker 2: a hostage, like he really didn't believe what he was saying,
- 3:37Speaker 2: but he had to say it for some reason. It's
- 3:41Speaker 2: a clear case of this plane being shot out of
- 3:44Speaker 2: the sky. Why cover it up? That's That's where I'm
- 3:48Speaker 2: at Now, why did we cover this up? Was it
- 3:51Speaker 2: was it Egypt? Was it a terror group? I don't know.
- 3:55Speaker 2: And this is pre nine to eleven, so we didn't
- 3:58Speaker 2: even have the whole security or the fear of terrorism
- 4:03Speaker 2: that existed after nine to eleven.
- 4:06Speaker 1: Let me correct myself for one second. It's not the
- 4:08Speaker 1: country of Egypt, of the government of Egypt. It was
- 4:10Speaker 1: a militant organization based in Egypt to claim responsibility.
- 4:15Speaker 3: Yeah, and that time, at that time Larry and Joe
- 4:18Speaker 3: Bartlett was the hotbed of the Muslim Brotherhood hotbed I
- 4:22Speaker 3: mean they were attempting basically to take over the country.
- 4:26Speaker 3: But let me flip to another subject. You're down in
- 4:28Speaker 3: South Carolina. Now, you've retired, like so many others from
- 4:32Speaker 3: our region. In fact, later on Larry's going to talk
- 4:35Speaker 3: about how much flight has been taking place outside of
- 4:39Speaker 3: this area. But as you play your Botchi games, I'm
- 4:42Speaker 3: sure you come across a lot of veterans, because South
- 4:44Speaker 3: Carolina per person, per capita, has more veterans who lived there,
- 4:49Speaker 3: men and women who've served, men and women who've retired.
- 4:53Speaker 3: What's their general feeling in your state now about this
- 4:56Speaker 3: war in Iran?
- 4:59Speaker 2: Well, I think you know from what I hear, we're stuck.
- 5:03Speaker 2: It's a war of choice. I think it was an
- 5:06Speaker 2: unwise choice, and we know whose choice it was. I
- 5:10Speaker 2: guess the question is how do you get out of it?
- 5:13Speaker 2: And you want to be patriotic, you want to support
- 5:17Speaker 2: your country, but you know it's a mistake, and I
- 5:23Speaker 2: guess the question is how do you get out of it?
- 5:27Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tremendous question. I would imagine that you
- 5:30Speaker 1: have a lot of friends that are New Yorkers down there,
- 5:33Speaker 1: because I just looked at all of the migration figures
- 5:37Speaker 1: for the last few years in South Carolina is the
- 5:41Speaker 1: number three location for New Yorkers, from people from Massachusetts,
- 5:46Speaker 1: from New Jersey, and even California coming to South Carolina.
- 5:50Speaker 1: So are there a lot of transplants living down there
- 5:52Speaker 1: with you?
- 5:53Speaker 2: Absolutely? Everybody. The first question you asked somebody is where
- 5:56Speaker 2: you're from? Really, I haven't, Well, you know, this is
- 6:06Speaker 2: kind of a resort community, so there's a lot of visitors,
- 6:10Speaker 2: but the most everybody, almost everybody that I've encountered, is
- 6:14Speaker 2: from somewhere else.
- 6:15Speaker 3: Now, Joe Bartlett, In places like where you've settled, a
- 6:19Speaker 3: lot of folks think that Olive Garden is an Italian restaurant,
- 6:26Speaker 3: and Olive Garden has this unique policy they've just imposed.
- 6:31Speaker 2: We don't do it.
- 6:31Speaker 3: When it comes to voting. You got to show a
- 6:34Speaker 3: government ID with a photo on it. But if you
- 6:37Speaker 3: want to take advantage of all the pasta you can eat,
- 6:40Speaker 3: I'm sure with the free replenishment of the bread steaks,
- 6:45Speaker 3: you now have to have one of their own ID
- 6:49Speaker 3: cards with your photo on it, so you don't just
- 6:52Speaker 3: lend it to other family members and friends.
- 6:56Speaker 2: Hey, you got to control cost, Curtis one way or
- 6:58Speaker 2: the other. I guess, but I will say where I live,
- 7:02Speaker 2: there are no Olive Gardens. We do live relatively close
- 7:06Speaker 2: to a BUCkies, though, have you ever had buddies? Jealous?
- 7:10Speaker 2: I've been wanting to try a BUCkies?
- 7:12Speaker 1: What is BUCkies? Oh my gosh, it's.
- 7:14Speaker 2: The thing these days. It's a rest stop. It's a
- 7:19Speaker 2: humongous rest stop. The claim to fame was that the
- 7:22Speaker 2: guys who started it wanted to have clean bathrooms. Promise
- 7:25Speaker 2: you that the bathroom you're gonna use is absolutely clean,
- 7:28Speaker 2: and they are spick and span. But it's expanded to food, merchandise,
- 7:33Speaker 2: clothing people are buying. They stop at a BUCkies and
- 7:36Speaker 2: they're shopping as if they went to Walmart. Yeah, and
- 7:38Speaker 2: they're buying merch. They're coming home with Bucky's shirt.
- 7:41Speaker 3: I'm surprised you haven't heard that because you have a
- 7:44Speaker 3: son who goes to school down south.
- 7:46Speaker 2: Yeah, and every friend I.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Know who has a kid who has a southern school BUCkies.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Is it? It's funny because we've driven all around Elon
- 7:54Speaker 1: in North Carolina and I haven't seen a BUCkies. I
- 7:57Speaker 1: haven't seen one yet. Now I'm gonna be looking for them. Hey,
- 8:00Speaker 1: is it all Lindsey Graham coverage down there all the time?
- 8:04Speaker 1: And how do you feel about Darlene as possibly your
- 8:07Speaker 1: next senator?
- 8:09Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, I was not really a
- 8:13Speaker 2: Lindsay Graham fan anymore. He kind of, you know, he
- 8:16Speaker 2: warped like your buddy Trump, So I you know, I'm
- 8:19Speaker 2: kind of off him, sad that he that he passed away.
- 8:22Speaker 2: Kind of an interesting guy, But I don't know. I
- 8:25Speaker 2: think it's gonna be wide open. She's gonna have to
- 8:29Speaker 2: run again. And she's not really political too. As I
- 8:33Speaker 2: I looked into her background, she she helped people with disabilities,
- 8:38Speaker 2: which is, you know, great, But I don't know that
- 8:41Speaker 2: debt qualifies her to be the senator.
- 8:43Speaker 3: Now kind of let me take you back to BUCkies,
- 8:45Speaker 3: because I'm always on a search for a clean bathroom.
- 8:51Speaker 3: I can never find it at all those Rush locations restaurants.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Did they actually deliver on that? I mean calling Joe
- 8:58Speaker 1: Bart tell the.
- 8:59Speaker 2: True Absolutely, they are spick and span. They're cleaned almost continuously,
- 9:05Speaker 2: and that that's the promise. You stop at a BUCkies,
- 9:07Speaker 2: the restroom will be clean. They are.
- 9:10Speaker 3: I got franchise it up here.
- 9:11Speaker 2: Please the turl here.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Hey, Joe, I know you have a you have a
- 9:19Speaker 1: whole lot of fans listening, and so how are you doing?
- 9:23Speaker 1: Are you happy? Do you miss the game at all?
- 9:25Speaker 1: Would you like to get back in it sometime?
- 9:28Speaker 2: I you know, I enjoy these little conversations we have.
- 9:31Speaker 2: What I don't miss is having you get up at
- 9:34Speaker 2: three o'clock in the morning and doing this day after
- 9:37Speaker 2: day after day. Because right now I live in a
- 9:41Speaker 2: beautiful place. The weather is almost always nice, and when
- 9:45Speaker 2: I wake up, the whole day is mine. I don't
- 9:47Speaker 2: owe a thing to anybody.
- 9:49Speaker 1: Else, so it's wonderful. And the Bochi ball game's going well.
- 9:54Speaker 2: Bochi where this is in between seasons. It's working on
- 9:58Speaker 2: my golf stream right now.
- 10:00Speaker 3: Uh well, do appreciate it. Joe, You're welcome anytime. You're
- 10:04Speaker 3: the iconic figure here at wo R. All right, take care, guys,
- 10:08Speaker 3: Thanks a lot out in