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  Speaker 4: Here we are, man. I got Ryder Lee back in
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  Speaker 4: the studio, another Paranoid American podcast, crowd favorite by far.
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  Speaker 4: And man, the last time we were talking, we got
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  Speaker 4: all deep into Kubrick as one does, especially when you're
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  Speaker 4: talking to Ryder Lee. But we were talking offline and
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  Speaker 4: you mentioned the GATE program. In fact, you've got a
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  Speaker 4: whole new documentary out about the GATE program. And to
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  Speaker 4: be clear, we're saying GATE or GAY program. or gay
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  Speaker 4: gate program gay.
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  Speaker 1: Gate uh it's whatever you want it to be really
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  Speaker 1: no uh it's a gate program g-a-t-e but um yeah
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  Speaker 1: it's uh called psychic agent the gate program and it
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  Speaker 1: is on amazon prime hopefully we can get a link
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  Speaker 1: in the description for people to get easy access to
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  Speaker 1: that but yeah it was kind of The amalgamation of
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  Speaker 1: everything where everything was kind of leading up to my
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  Speaker 1: first movie, JFK solving the crime of the century came out.
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  Speaker 1: And then I did the Kubrick, which kind of rounded
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  Speaker 1: out Jay Widener's trilogy of movies with his Kubrick's Odyssey
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  Speaker 1: one and two films. And then I kind of he
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  Speaker 1: never did the third one. And I was like, hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: let's I got a new theory. let's put together a
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  Speaker 1: third one. So we'll complete that cycle for you. And
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  Speaker 1: then it will give me another movie. And then on
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  Speaker 1: this one, I was like, I just got to do,
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  Speaker 1: I got to do my own thing on this one.
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  Speaker 1: And it's kind of my, um, you know, what I
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  Speaker 1: decided to do next. And it was really important for
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  Speaker 1: me because I had been studying and looking into a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the MK ultra programs. And that's really how the,
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  Speaker 1: this whole thing came about was looking into MK ultra and,
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  Speaker 1: exactly what was going on there and all of the
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  Speaker 1: sub-projects that involve testing ESP and psychic abilities. And then
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  Speaker 1: I got into the Stargate program. See, that's the thing
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  Speaker 1: is there's so many different programs that have gate in
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  Speaker 1: the title that it's very confusing and it gets very
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  Speaker 1: convoluted and people get confused on what you get that
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about i mean how many gates have we
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  Speaker 1: had with water gate everyone's on a gate you know
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  Speaker 1: what i mean deflate gate like so many gates uh
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  Speaker 1: that yeah pizza gate exactly all this stuff uh you
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  Speaker 1: know revolves around some kind of gate so it gets
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  Speaker 1: um it gets kind of confusing, but it was important
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  Speaker 1: for me to really lay a history out in the movie.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what I do in the first hour of
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  Speaker 1: the movie is really dive deep into the government's Stargate
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  Speaker 1: remote viewing unit at Fort Meade, Maryland, which started in
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  Speaker 1: 1978 and ended in 1995, but it wasn't always called
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  Speaker 1: Stargate unit. And that's really what we get into in
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  Speaker 1: that first hour is all of the different name changes.
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  Speaker 1: It went from you know, center lane, the sun streak
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  Speaker 1: to grill flame to all these different, and it went
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  Speaker 1: bounced back and forth between the DIA and army intelligence.
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  Speaker 1: And then where did that really start? The CIA funding
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  Speaker 1: SRI back in the early seventies, but then it goes
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  Speaker 1: back even further than that into, uh, Duke university, which, uh,
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  Speaker 1: by this guy named, uh, JB Ryan, uh, he was, uh,
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  Speaker 1: he developed this, uh, telepathy car game along with Carl Zender, uh,
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  Speaker 1: which was, uh, called the Zender cards, which Zender, he
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  Speaker 1: tested on indigenous school children in Canada and then also
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  Speaker 1: kids within the United States, which are these, it's a
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  Speaker 1: telepathy card game where they have symbols on the backs
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  Speaker 1: of the cards or on the front of the card.
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  Speaker 1: And then you flip the card over and then you
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  Speaker 1: ask the student what shape is on the card. And
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  Speaker 1: then they, they'll use their psychic abilities and tell you
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  Speaker 1: what shape is on the card, which is a very
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  Speaker 1: common thing that people remember within the public school gifted
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  Speaker 1: and talented programs. So it's really a lot. We cram
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  Speaker 1: a lot in there and it's around an hour and
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  Speaker 1: 45 to an hour and 50 minutes. So it's jam-packed
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  Speaker 1: with information. So I really appreciate it if after you're
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  Speaker 1: done listening to this with me and Paranoid American, if
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  Speaker 1: you go and rent the movie, it's only $ 2. 99 to
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  Speaker 1: rent it and you can buy it for $ 9. 99.
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  Speaker 4: And just for the record, uh, I was in the
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  Speaker 4: gifted program and we're going to talk about that, which
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  Speaker 4: means I might've been in the gate program. So there
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  Speaker 4: might be a chance that I'll know whether or not
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  Speaker 4: you listening right now went and watched Ryder's new documentary. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: cause if you didn't, then we're going to, we're going
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  Speaker 4: to find you and we're going to kill you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing is a lot of people, they'll,
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  Speaker 1: they will claim like the skeptics and the people will
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  Speaker 1: claim that, you know, that a lot of the things
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  Speaker 1: that people experience in the gay pro everybody experienced that
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  Speaker 1: it was just this standard type of test. Some people
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  Speaker 1: have claimed that it was like the, the president's physical
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  Speaker 1: fitness test where, or the, from the health department that
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  Speaker 1: would come in and give them a drink, but that's
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  Speaker 1: not what I'm referring to. Yeah, that did happen. And
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  Speaker 1: I do remember having to do that when I was
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  Speaker 1: in school, I was in a private school, but I
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  Speaker 1: do remember the health department. coming and having you swish
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  Speaker 1: around a thing in your mouth. It was like once
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  Speaker 1: a year they.
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  Speaker 4: Would do it.
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  Speaker 1: It was normally in the beginning of the year that
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  Speaker 1: the health department would come and you just swish a
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  Speaker 1: little thing in your mouth and spit it out. And then,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that was fluoride or whatever it was. And
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  Speaker 1: then they would have you have you doing hand washing
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  Speaker 1: things where they put this, this stuff on your hands
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  Speaker 1: and then go put it underneath the water. And then
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  Speaker 1: they'll shine a black light on your hands to see
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  Speaker 1: what you missed or whatever. Like, but that's, That's not
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  Speaker 1: the same thing as like what I'm talking about. I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking about being pulled out of the classroom on a
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  Speaker 1: daily basis or a weekly basis and being put into
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  Speaker 1: a different going to a different building or a completely
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  Speaker 1: separate classroom with only a handful of other kids. And
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  Speaker 1: this happening all the time on a regular basis and
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  Speaker 1: not everybody was involved in it, but that's a good
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  Speaker 1: way to. Kind of, you know, hide the fact of
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  Speaker 1: what was going on is if you have very similar
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  Speaker 1: other tests that were happening that people can also get
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  Speaker 1: confused with.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 1: That's how you, you know, you engulf and hide something
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  Speaker 1: underneath something else when that other thing is very similar
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  Speaker 1: to what people also remember. So then it just becomes
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  Speaker 1: super confusing for everyone.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So I think I might have gotten ripped off and
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  Speaker 4: didn't go through like the badass gate program where they
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  Speaker 4: teach you like the telekinetic warfare. But everything you just described,
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  Speaker 4: the hunter, like I actually did go through that exact
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  Speaker 4: experience where I got pulled out. I think in second
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  Speaker 4: grade and you get a, like a very generic test
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  Speaker 4: with like a non-teacher, like some kind of guidance counselor,
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  Speaker 4: psychologist person. And then after that you end up, it
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  Speaker 4: was either every day after lunch or it was like
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  Speaker 4: a certain day of the week, but it was typically
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  Speaker 4: every single day right after lunch, you would break away
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  Speaker 4: from your normal class and you'd go to a completely
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  Speaker 4: separate classroom with a bunch of other kids that got
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  Speaker 4: plucked out of their classrooms. And sometimes it would, vary
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  Speaker 4: um between like two or two or three different grades
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  Speaker 4: so it wasn't like all fifth graders it might have
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  Speaker 4: been like third fourth and fifth or sixth seventh and
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  Speaker 4: eighth or whatever it was going to be um and
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  Speaker 4: for the most part it was at least in my
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  Speaker 4: experience it was just a big computer lab and you
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  Speaker 4: play carmen san diego and oregon trail and dating myself
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  Speaker 4: a little bit and then a crap load of puzzles
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  Speaker 4: and And they even had this like competition that extended
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  Speaker 4: from it called Odyssey of the Mind, which is like
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  Speaker 4: a whole other thing where they do robotics and they
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  Speaker 4: do architectural engineering, but they're grading things. you on it.
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  Speaker 4: It goes down this huge different rabbit hole. Uh, but
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  Speaker 4: I never got to do the cool little psychic cards
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  Speaker 4: with the waves and the triangles and the circles and
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  Speaker 4: the squares. And, but maybe it was just like, uh, amnesia.
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  Speaker 4: They might've psychic drove it directly out of our brains
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  Speaker 4: or like what, at what point does that part that
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  Speaker 4: I think I'm familiar with escalate into now you're being
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  Speaker 4: weaponized by the military.
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  Speaker 1: Well, see, that's the thing is it's not just one
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  Speaker 1: thing that they're looking for. And that's the problem with
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  Speaker 1: a lot of this is that people want it to
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  Speaker 1: be just one thing, right? Just like in every type
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  Speaker 1: of operation or government program or psych op or some
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  Speaker 1: kind of military project that is a covert program. It's
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  Speaker 1: not just one thing. It's not just one person that's involved.
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing that they want to make you believe.
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  Speaker 1: Is that is just one thing. It's just one shooter, right?
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  Speaker 1: One person did this. It was just, or it was
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  Speaker 1: just this group of people over here when, when the
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  Speaker 1: operation is freaking huge and there's many different levels and
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  Speaker 1: layers and branches of the tree that go along with this,
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  Speaker 1: but it gets so deep and so convoluted and so
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  Speaker 1: crazy that people give up on looking into it because it,
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  Speaker 1: it is so complicated. And crazy. And that's where we
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  Speaker 1: get this thing of people believing that stuff is just fake, right?
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  Speaker 1: Because whenever you're talking about a military operation, paranoid American,
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about something that is so sophisticated and everything,
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  Speaker 1: all the loose ends have been tied up that you
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  Speaker 1: cannot find anything. The loose ends. That's what people don't
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  Speaker 1: understand about this is that whenever the military or the
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  Speaker 1: government is running a cover up. The whole purpose of
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  Speaker 1: the cover up is for you not to find out
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  Speaker 1: about the thing that you're trying to find out about.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: If they leave something behind, then they didn't do a
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  Speaker 1: good job.
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  Speaker 4: Would it be appropriate to consider the GATE program from
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  Speaker 4: the farthest away standpoint? You know, the bird's eye view, superficial,
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  Speaker 4: exoteric interpretation, but essentially it all starts with Clicking a
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  Speaker 4: checkmark next to your name at some point. So now
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  Speaker 4: whenever there's a consideration or a round for someone needed
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  Speaker 4: or a kid to look into, there's just a quick
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  Speaker 4: way to filter all the gifted or challenged or gate kids.
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  Speaker 4: And then from there, it can escalate into more than
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  Speaker 4: just one thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I believe that the original goal was for recruitment.
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  Speaker 1: And this happened around 1958 when the United States launched
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  Speaker 1: its first satellite in space called Explorer 1 on January
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  Speaker 1: of like 1958. And that was just a little while
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  Speaker 1: after Russia had launched their satellite Sputnik in space. And
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  Speaker 1: there was a lot of things happening in 1958. DARPA
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  Speaker 1: was established in 1958. NASA was established in 1958. And
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  Speaker 1: the government officially became involved with the public school system
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  Speaker 1: in 1958. So Russia beating us in space really... Freaked
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  Speaker 1: out the Eisenhower administration. And because we were really lacking
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  Speaker 1: in scientists and engineers and, you know, people that we
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  Speaker 1: can use within the government and within NASA and through
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  Speaker 1: that organizations and in the military. So they started this
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  Speaker 1: gifted and talented education where they would pull children that
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  Speaker 1: were deemed gifted and talented out of the classroom. And
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  Speaker 1: these people would serve as recruitment for the government. So
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  Speaker 1: they would essentially be, and this is proven, this is
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  Speaker 1: 100% real. We show the documents in the movie, Psychic Agent,
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  Speaker 1: the gay program. And in the 70s, the early 70s,
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  Speaker 1: parents were getting really upset because they would go to
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  Speaker 1: the school, they would go to the public school and
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  Speaker 1: be like, hey, can I get my child's school records?
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  Speaker 1: And the public school would not give them their child's
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  Speaker 1: school records. And then they found out that the reason
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  Speaker 1: that they didn't give the parents their child's school records
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  Speaker 1: is because the CIA had all their child's school records.
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  Speaker 1: So then they tried to put in this law called FERPA,
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  Speaker 1: which is the Family Rights and Privacy Act, which would
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  Speaker 1: give parents the right to get access to their child's
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  Speaker 1: school records against But the CIA put an amendment into
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  Speaker 1: FERPA that still gave them access to their child's school records.
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  Speaker 1: So even though the parents finally got back access to
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  Speaker 1: the child's school records, the government and the military and
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  Speaker 1: CIA still had access to them. So the CIA, the
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  Speaker 1: government has a file on every single child that has
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  Speaker 1: gone through public school. from preschool literally to your career.
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  Speaker 4: So when the teacher would be like, this is going
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  Speaker 4: to go on your permanent record and you're in fourth grade,
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  Speaker 4: there might actually be a little bit of truth to that.
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  Speaker 7: 100%.
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  Speaker 1: It was all stored in one giant database and they
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  Speaker 1: have access to all of that. It's very real and
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  Speaker 1: it's been happening ever since. as far back as the
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  Speaker 1: early 60s with MGM, Mentally Gifted Minors in California, which
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  Speaker 1: Walter Bosley was a part of. And a lot of
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  Speaker 1: these places are directly beside or in the vicinity of
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  Speaker 1: or close by to an Air Force base or some
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  Speaker 1: sort of military base is in the vicinity of a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the main schools. like not all of them.
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  Speaker 1: I can't say all of them because a lot of
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  Speaker 1: different schools have gate programs and not every school is
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  Speaker 1: beside a military base, but I'm talking about some of
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  Speaker 1: the main ones are like really close or in proximity
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  Speaker 1: or in the vicinity of some form of military base,
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  Speaker 1: such as MGM and a few of the ones in
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  Speaker 1: Georgia and a few of the ones in, in Florida
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  Speaker 1: as well. And so we're, when you think of all
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  Speaker 1: the people that has been through these programs has been,
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  Speaker 1: you know, millions of kids, millions of kids have been
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  Speaker 1: in some form of, you know, gifted and talented education.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess back to my, my point of what
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  Speaker 1: this is really about is it's, it's not only about like,
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  Speaker 1: finding out if people could possibly be psychic, but it's
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  Speaker 1: also about recruitment and not only recruitment into the military
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  Speaker 1: or into three-letter organizations, but even more covert than that,
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  Speaker 1: like positions of power, CEOs of corporations, writers for the
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  Speaker 1: New York Post, the next Greta Thunberg, the next LeBron James,
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  Speaker 1: promoting Black Lives Matter. It's anything that when you think that, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't be used for, they got an agenda for you.
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  Speaker 1: And they can program you at a very young age
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  Speaker 1: by getting inside of your mind, by giving you a drug,
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  Speaker 1: which is that pink drink or the orange drink or
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  Speaker 1: whatever drink it was that you remember that some people
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  Speaker 1: say was just fluoride, but Looking at Dr. Ewan Cameron
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  Speaker 1: in Canada, which we bring out in the documentary A
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  Speaker 1: Clockwork Shining and what he was doing in psychically driving people.
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  Speaker 1: If you match that up and what Ewan Cameron was
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  Speaker 1: doing at Ravenscrag is the exact same thing that people
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  Speaker 1: have been saying has been happening to them in the
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  Speaker 1: GATE program classes. Essentially the exact same thing.
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  Speaker 4: I want to get an idea from you for, like,
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  Speaker 4: the checklist of the red flags of kind of like
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  Speaker 4: the Jeff Foxworthy, you might have been in a telekinetic
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  Speaker 4: gate program if, and not just normal gifted or challenge.
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  Speaker 4: And one of those was... the pink drink or the
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  Speaker 4: orange drink, which they also give out in the milk.
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  Speaker 4: There's the whole conspiracy theory about going through bootcamp and
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  Speaker 4: getting a similar one of those. But then there's also
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  Speaker 4: one that came up recently. I was talking to, uh,
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  Speaker 4: Abby on secret society, good guys. And she mentioned these
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  Speaker 4: telepathic tapes that were like these tapes that you would
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  Speaker 4: listen to. And it would be an Emily Miller Moyer,
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  Speaker 4: I think also had some of these, It was like
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  Speaker 4: in a brown case and they would play it and
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  Speaker 4: it was sort of get you into like an alternate state.
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  Speaker 4: And you were supposed to be going, you know, doing
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  Speaker 4: mantras or meditating. But that apparently the pink drink, the
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  Speaker 4: orange drink, whatever drink it is, and these telepathic tapes
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  Speaker 4: and like a whole kind of other checklist of like
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  Speaker 4: very specific things. Like, are there any that top of
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  Speaker 4: your list that would stand out as being like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: you might have actually gone through something deeper than just
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  Speaker 4: the gate program?
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  Speaker 1: That's a really good thing that you just brought up
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: because within the movie, I talked to Katie page and,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: she was involved in this program called the twilight learner
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: program by this guy named Thomas H. Badinsky that worked
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: at area 51.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: He was a navigational engineer for.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: For the SR 71 Blackbird out of area 51. And
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I'd go and interview her and she has the original
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: tapes from that program in the Brown thing that you
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: just mentioned. The original Twilight learner cassette tapes.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: You can still get them on eBay every once in
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: a while for not that much. I highly recommend everyone
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: go out there and, and scoop one. Cause it feels
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: like the more attention this particular topic gets, the more
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: of those might get memory hold.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And I don't feel like very many people were
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: a part of that program. Katie Page said that she
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: was the only one that she knew that was ever
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: in that program. And every time that she went to
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Thomas H. Bedinsky's office next to the Denver Tech Center,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: she was the only one that was ever in there.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: She never saw anybody else that was coming in, leaving
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: before she got there or coming in after she left.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: So it was a very niche and rare thing. And
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: to me, it seems like what they were doing is
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: a form of self-hypnosis. They want to hypnotize you in
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: order for you to activate your psychic abilities or possibly
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: get outside of your body. Monroe Institute Gateway Experience was
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: like a precursor to The, uh, uh, the twilight learner tapes,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: they kind of went hand in hand in, in Thomas H. Badinski.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: There is a connection there between the miniature foundation and the, uh, uh,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: gateway experience with Robert Monroe. They were all kind of
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: working in the same type of circle there. And, uh,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I believe that what that was for, because we showed
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: the CIA gateway document in the movie. and basically the
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: purpose of the gateway tapes were to induce an out-of-body experience,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: and to induce an out-of-body experience is important in order
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: to activate your psychic abilities. Now, people can be psychic
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: without going through an out-of-body experience, but it's kind of
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: implied that you're a better psychic if you have been
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: outside of your body. And that's not like a confirmed
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: thing or scientifically proven or whatever, but it's kind of
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: implied that you can become more accurate at psychic abilities
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: if you are able to get outside of your body.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: And Angela Ford, which was a real Stargate remote viewer
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: that found hostages in Lebanon just using her mind, And
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: she was given an award for that. And she also
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: found a runaway customs agent in Wyoming just using her mind.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: And the BBC actually came and did a reenactment of
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: that entire case. I couldn't find it. It was very difficult.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I actually tried to get a hold of Warner Brothers
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: because I thought maybe Warner Brothers would have had that
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: archival footage. But it happened in like 1995. And no
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: one can find that footage. But I tried to find
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: it to be able to put it in the movie.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: But they did do a reenactment of it, of her
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: remote viewing and finding Charles Ford in Wyoming. So I
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: believe that people are like everyone has the ability to
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: do it. But according to the documents, I show a document.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not actually sure if I put it in the movie.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I might not have. It might have been on the
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: cutting room floor. But it shows that according to the DIA,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: in 1993, they had come to the conclusion that everyone
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: is psychic, but only 1% of the population is. is
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: accurate or can be accurate, remote viewers, and get information
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: that is accurate. So in 1993, that was their statistic
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: based off of the research that they had done, is that, yes,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: everyone has the ability to be psychic, but not everyone
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: is accurate, and only 1% of the population is accurate.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Small tangent here, and I'm actually really glad that you
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: just cited a few practical examples where someone was able
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: to utilize this psychic ability on multiple occasions, received awards,
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: had a whole BBC reenactment, right? I'm curious, are you
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: familiar with James Randi and the Randi Challenge?
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not, but that kind of sounds familiar.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: I think he died maybe 10 years ago or something,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: but James Randi is the guy that debunked Peter Popoff
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: and Popoff Industries in the 1970s, this televangelist that did, like,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: miracle healing, and he tapped into the radio frequency and
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: was able to prove on, like, nighttime talk shows that, hey,
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: this guy says he's talking to God and he's getting
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: all this information. Anyways, he got somewhat famous for that.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: He was a stage magician. He kind of turned into, like,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: a Harry Houdini– spiritual disprover guy right like he was
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: a spiritual debunker and he did this thing called the
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: randy challenge and the randy challenge i think it started
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: as like get a million dollars if you can prove
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: in a isolated scientifically hermetically sealed environment with multiple controls
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: and all of that you know go into like a
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: sterile environment improve remote viewing or astral projection or telekinesis
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: or telepathy or any of these things and a Some
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: of the criticism was that he just made everything so
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: stringent that there was a million ways for him to
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: be like, ah, aha, you didn't do it right. But
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: I'm just curious... Do you think that because there's other
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: institutions out there that are set to basically debunk all
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: of this? Is that just controlled opposition? Like is the
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: government knows simultaneously that telepathy is real, but they also
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: endorse all sorts of debunking campaigns to just money the waters?
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Or do you think there's actually like different factions that
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: truly believe in it being real and not being real?
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Well, they had been studying it since they've been giving
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: money to foundations and colleges since the 30s to study
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: psychic abilities and ESP abilities. So it's like, And then
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: they had a unit, a remote viewing unit, which was
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: to use people's psychic abilities to get intelligence data on
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: foreign targets during the Cold War. And that started in
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: 1978 and lasted until 1995. So if they didn't believe it,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: if they didn't think that it worked, then.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Why did they fund it and study it and have
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: a unit since 1978 until 1995? Does it fall into
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Camp Hero and Montauk where the Delta T chair that
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: they would basically find someone?
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: This is Stranger Things, basically, right? That one of these
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: kids from one of these gate programs that had a strong...
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: skill and astral projection and remote viewing could go to
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: this military compound, Camp Hero, and sort of turn that up,
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: add an amplifier into the mix.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Montauk Project is a, I believe, was a
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: creation by a man named Preston Nichols. I don't think
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: that there was really anything to that story other than
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: possibly some weird hybrid animal stuff that the military might
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: have been doing around Montauk, trying to create chimeras, you know,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: animal-human hybrids.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: They were chasing Plum Island, yeah.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or something like that. But I feel like that
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the Montauk stuff is a brainchild of Preston Nichols that
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: took a lot of that from a movie called The
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Experiment and then mixed it in with a bunch
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: of things that he just completely made up. Now, were
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: weird experimentations going on there? Possibly. Possibly there were some
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: weird stuff. I mean, the military has been known to
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: do weird things for a really long time. And then
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: there's another project that we actually bring up within the movie,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Psychic Agent, The Gate Program, that I do believe that
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: was 100% real because there actually is proof behind it
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: and photos exist of this place. And it's called the
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Indian Lake Project. Are you familiar with the Indian Lake Project?
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: No, this is new to me.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: So it's basically this guy in the early 2000s, his
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: uncle died and his uncle found this metal box out
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: in the woods of around Indian Lake, New York. It
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: was this old metal box that his uncle found in
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: like 1995 and his uncle passed away in the late
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: 90s into the early 2000s.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: 2000s.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not 100% sure on the dates because I don't
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: have the notes. I got to remember so much stuff
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: in my head. So forgive me if I mess up
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: some dates or whatever, but it's around that area. And
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: his uncle passed away and then the box was given
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: to him. this gentleman named John S. And he started
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: this blog post in the early 2000s. Some of it
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: is still up online that you can find, but it's
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: called the Indian Lake Project. And within this box, this
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: metal box that his uncle found, had pictures of children,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: children behind bars, children being made to take some kind
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: of substance, children with headphones on, playing with blocks, And
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: according to the documentation that was inside of the box
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: was that this was a military project in Indian Lake,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: New York in the early to mid 40s. There was
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: also film reels inside of the box. He was able
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: to get some of the film reels out and get
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: some still images of the film reels, but he was
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: never able to release what exactly was on the film reels,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: but he apparently had found this underground facility.
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: Around the area that he had gotten into, and he
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: took pictures of this underground facility, and he apparently matched
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: some of the photos from the box, and he claimed
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: that this was where the children were kept in this
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: underground facility for this program that was above ground called
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: the Indian Lake Project.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: And then he just mysteriously stopped posting.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Are we talking deep underground military bases when you say
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: like this underground facility or like, is this military adjacent?
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Well, there's kids with military personnel. There's kids with pictured
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: with military people in military uniform. I thought at this facility, is.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: This something that, Would be one more reason to not
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: send your kid to public school. Cause we were talking
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: earlier and I was like, were you in the gate program?
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: And you said, well, I went to private school. Like
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: if you're homeschooled or if you're in private school, are
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: you immune to the gate program? Or do you think
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: there's still a way that you can somehow find your
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: way into it? I don't know.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I actually had someone reach out to me and said
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: that they were in the gate program and they were homeschooled.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: How does that, I don't know. Listening now that is
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: homeschooling their children. Is there a way that you can
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: officially register your kid into the gate program? Just in
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: case if, can you like contact the CIA and be like, Hey,
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: my kid's actually like legit smart and might be able
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: to help you guys out.
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Well, the way that she explained it was that someone
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: had gotten in contact with her mom that it was
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: like once or twice a week or three days a week.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: her and a bunch of other kids would get together
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: and then they would meet at like a, like a
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: private place. And then they would all do like classwork together.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: So it was like a, I'll have to go back
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: and read through that, what she said again. I think
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: that was in an email or maybe it was a
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: comment on one of my videos, but I have to
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: go back and reread that. It was like right when
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: the movie came out. So, and I've gotten so many
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: emails and so many people reaching out to me that
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I might be mixing up some of it, but I'm
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: 99% sure that someone told me that they were in
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: the gay program and they were homeschooled.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Well, for most of the people that homeschool, I think
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: you still have to do some form of standardized testing.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: You're not allowed to just... like write a letter back
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: to the government and be like, yep, my kid's acing everything.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Don't worry about us. Like you actually have to go
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: to some sort of third party, um, you know, facility
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: and they do a test there to make sure that
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: you're actually doing what the homeschooling is supposed to be doing.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: And that, I'm just saying that would be that touch
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: point for the state to be able to figure out, Hey,
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: you know, this, this kid, we like the cut of
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: this kid's a jib. Like let's go ahead and enroll him.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of times homeschooled people are quite
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: smart individuals. So, I mean, it's not out of the
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: realm of possibility. I'm just not 100% sure exactly how
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: that would work. I'd have to go back and read
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: that comment and what that individual told me again. But
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: there are real gate program schools. I mean, there's entire
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: gate program schools that are in operation to this very day.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk was in a gate program school in Palatine, Illinois.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, called Creative Children's Academy. And it was renamed
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Quest Academy in 1999. And this is a really interesting
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: one because this is an entire school that's just dedicated
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: to gifted and talented children. You can look it up.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Just Google in Quest Academy and read through the website.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Quest Academy in Illinois, Valentine, Illinois. And it's a literal
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: gifted and talented school dedicated to students that have been
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: deemed gifted and talented. still in operation. And there are
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: several schools like this in, uh, across the United States.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Then you can also wrap in the, uh, teen behavioral
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: modification stuff. You know about that? The, uh, cons cults
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: and kidnapping documentary that was on Netflix. It was all
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: about the teen behavioral health modification schools where they were
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: essentially brainwashing and mind controlling, uh, that were sent to
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: these schools that were deemed to be unruly?
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: There's a number of those. A lot of those, too,
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: would be in Jamaica or just outside the U.S. so
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: that they could operate under slightly different rules. And yeah,
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: a lot of those are corrective schools. And I guess...
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: that seems like just one other option to get into
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: the gate program, although maybe like through the back door.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: Because now, just because you need some course correction, a
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: lot of troublemakers also probably have high IQs, I guess.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Are we talking IQ tests here, or does your psychic
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: slash telepathic ability... exist completely independent of that? Are there
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: dumbasses out there that are really great at telepathy and
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: vice versa?
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, just because you're a good psychic doesn't
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: mean that you're book smart. And just because you're book
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: smart doesn't mean that you're street smart. You know, I
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: don't think one goes with the other one. You know,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: you can be people can be smart in many different
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: types of ways. And the really rare ones are the
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: ones that are smart and educated and have a high
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: IQ and everything it is that they do. And those
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: are the main people that they would want to be
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: looking for recruitment, right? I mean, what did you do
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: after you left public school? I mean, you went into, Anna,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: you worked for Disney, right?
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: Well, I went directly into the military first, and then
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: I went to Disney after the military.
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: I was on like a special fast track program where
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: technically I was in the military in training at 17.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: Like I didn't even wait until I was 18. So
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: am I, am I a candidate more so than I realized?
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I think so. And I think that a lot of
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: people are candidates and they don't realize because that's the
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: entire goal behind the program. If, everyone were to know
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: that they were programmed to do this thing later in life,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: then they would come out and be like, Oh yeah,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: this is my entire life has been handled. I've been
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: pushed in this direction to do this by a small
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: group of people or another individual.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: But the people that are successful aren't going to care
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: because the people that are successful don't care about any
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: of that because they're successful.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: They don't care what they went through or any of
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: the traumas that they might have went through or what
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: happened to them in public school or any of that,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: because they have the money that they need. They have
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: everything that they want. So it doesn't matter to them.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: But the ones that didn't, they start to kind of
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: remember what happened. And I think that the teen behavioral
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: modification schools are kind of lumped in with that because
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the people that didn't get through the program, like the
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: unruly ones. And I believe that this was what was
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: happening with Charlie Kirk during the end. Of his life.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: 100% believe. That he was. Starting to break the programming.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: And realizing.
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: That.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: All the things that made him successful. Was given to him.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: By a certain group of people. Not that he wasn't talented.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: He was a very talented individual. And he could debate people.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: But you have to have the talent. In order to have.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: All these doors open for you. So I believe that
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: he was realizing in the end that his entire life
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: was set up for him. His multi-million dollar corporation. his
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: multi-million dollar non-profit corporation, all of the doors were open
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: for him to get that.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: Isn't that the same for anybody that's able to succeed?
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: If the door wasn't opened by some sort of like
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: nepotism through your family had money or power influence, then
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: if you go through college or work or whatever, usually
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: the doors being open for you are from other people.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: And then you are essentially being exploited or at least
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: are advantageous to them at that moment, which is why
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: they open that door and keep the door open.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Well, think about how many singers there are that are
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: 10 times, 100 times better than any of the current
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: musicians out there right now. And they never make it.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, how many Elvis's, how many people were just
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: as good as Elvis or even better than Elvis?
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: Don't you dare. Don't you dare speak any more ill
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: about Elvis, sir. Writer. But you get what I mean?
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: And same with the Beatles, right? The Beatles were not
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: that great of a musician.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: All day long. Let's crash on the Beatles.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: You know, so it's like, you know, why are they
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: opened for certain people and then they're completely closed for
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: other people? And I would say that... It has been
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: ordained from a very young age that this person will
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: become this thing. And there are people that do slip
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: through the cracks, of course, not everybody. is like that.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: But I would say for the most part, and they
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: know that they can trust that because that person will
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: play ball, right? It's kind of like with, you know, the,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: during the sixties and seventies, all the bands and all
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: of their family members being part of some sort of military,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: their dads and her close relative was in high ranking
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: military officer. A lot of them, almost all of them
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: out of the 60s and into the 70s, had some
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: sort of close relative that was high up in the military.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: So it seems like this is just another version of
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: that in just a different way. But this just doesn't
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: have to be military or three-letter organizations or things like that.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: It could be just things that you would never even
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: think of. They could literally just plant and put an
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: asset in... anywhere it could be the post office worker
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: could be the freaking dmv worker you never freaking know
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: it could be your next door neighbor who knows.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: But if if that's the scenario who is the they
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: in that case right if you're if we're saying it's
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: not cia military they might be putting someone in the
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: post they who or is are we talking like illuminati
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: are we talking vril are we talking you know just
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: the state in general.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: In this case, I would say the, uh, the, just the,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: the state, uh, as it is a covert, um, black
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: budget intelligence agency or a black budget military. I mean,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: we know that those exist. The Danny Castellaro case, uh,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: He found out that the CIA, that there was this
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: black budget version of the CIA that was going to
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: a bunch of Native American reservations. And that's how they
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: started the whole gambling thing. And that's how they would
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: launder their money and launder their weapons and sell their
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: weapons and do prostitution and human trafficking through these Native
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: American reservations because they weren't technically on government. So they
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: couldn't be prosecuted for doing this type of business on
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Native American land. And then he was killed. He was
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: found in a hotel room in West Virginia.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: So 100%, there are.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Three-letter organizations and militaries that we have no idea what
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: or who they are. There are acronyms and three letters
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: that we could probably find out about, but we just
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: don't know about because we don't know what they're called.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: One of them is actually called the Missile Intelligence Agency.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: If you were to look up the Missile Intelligence Agency
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: and what the Missile Intelligence Agency does, you'll see all
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: the Missile Intelligence Agency is for defensive missiles and weapons combat.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: And they are the creators and developers of directed energy weapons.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: Which aren't real.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: That's what it says, dude. Look up missile intelligence. What
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: does the Missile Intelligence Agency do on Google?
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: So the answer being that they might just be some
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: other unknown acronym, but essentially it boils down to the
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: state at a certain level, right?
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, I would agree with that. Yes, they would have
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: to be aware.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: And in your opinion, from all the research you've done
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: so far in the GATE program, is this... I'm sure
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: there's a mix, so it's not just one or the other,
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: like a binary, but for the most part, is it...
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: Is it the state or the gate program is identifying
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: people that already have such a latent ability? Or is
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: it that the gate program is training people like they
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: might see the spark in you and then they're the
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: ones that are actually helping you develop it? Or is
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: that giving them too much credit? And they're really just
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: kind of scouts like, you know, finding a baseball player
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: in South America and then draft them into the major
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: leagues in the U.S.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit of both. And that's
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: a big reason why you would want to do that
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: is like, like, let's say that I went to a
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: different country. Let's say that there was a very important
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: tech developer in a different country. Like let's say China, right?
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Someone is developing.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: We get wind.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: The United States government gets wind that someone is really
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: developing something super crazy in China. That's going to revolutionize
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: the way that we operate as a society. Well, what
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: we would do, we would just reach out to that individual.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: We would reach out to that person. And we would say, hey,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: we'll give you $ 500 million to come and work for us.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: You know, skip out on what the Chinese government's doing
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: over there. Come and work for us. Bring your technology
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: with you. Okay? So then... We get that individual working
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: for our companies and our organization, and that guy, anything
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: that he does for that company and for that organization,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: he doesn't own. He can't do anything with it. He
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: can't create his own company. He can't create his own
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: business for the thing that he's working for your company for.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Anything that he tries.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: 500 mils for, right? That's what the 500 million's for.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Well, exactly. But that's the way that they're paid off, right?
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: They're paid off like, hey, instead of making your own
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: business and your own corporation that's going to be in
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: competition with us, we're just going to pay you off
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: and then you're going to come and work for us.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Instead of creating your own business and your own company
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: that is going to revolutionize the tech industry. then you're
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: going to be in a competition, direct competition with what
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: we're doing. That way we'll have your technology and there
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: won't be anything that you can do about it. That's
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: the reason that we would want to do that. And
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: that person is never going to be the CEO or
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: XEO or whatever of any corporation. He's just going to
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: be the worker for that corporation. And they're going to
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: keep him at a certain level so that he can
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: never expand beyond the parameters of of what he's given.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: And then if anybody ever really slips through the cracks,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: then their invention or whatever it is that they're doing
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: can just be, you know, buried under the national security act.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: If we're talking about, is this an analogy of like
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: some tech whiz in China or does the, would the
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: gate program apply equally to all industries? Is it not just,
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: cause you said it's not just one thing. So is
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: it not just like, people that are gifted in telepathy
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: and remote viewing, but also if you're just really good
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: at technology, you get folded into the same sort of,
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: you know, gate program.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And it's not even just that it could be,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: identifying pattern recognition. Like some people are really good at
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: pattern recognition. I mean, we show in the movie, Marilyn
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Manson says that the CIA wanted to recruit him for
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: the ability to identify how many people are inside of
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: a room as soon as he walks into the room.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: And not even thinking about it or even looking, he
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: just knows how many people are inside of the room automatically.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: So it's things that you would never even think about
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: that could be useful for the intelligence community.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: What do you think the chances are that like game
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: shows for example because i i don't know if you
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: know anyone that's ever had to like go on jeopardy
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: or as trained to go on it's not like you
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: just get plucked out um by chance people train for
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: it for years and years and go through like special
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: programs and tests and to be able to qualify for jeopardy.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: I'm just, do you think that game shows like jeopardy,
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: could those just be an extension of the gate program
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: as well?
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: I've never thought about that, but it's definitely a, um,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: it's definitely a possibility. Um, For sure.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: Because that would be like, is there a cutoff, I guess?
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: Because usually when someone's talking about gifted, my preconceived notion
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: is we're talking about children. We're talking about minors that
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: would be going through the GATE program. But I mean,
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: would there be a reason that the government would want
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: to stop tracking you just because you graduated high school?
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: No, they're going to want to track you all the
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: way up until whatever it is that you're doing with
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: your life.
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: Is there any way to disqualify yourself from the gate program?
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: No, nothing that you can do about it.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: So once you're in, you can never get out.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Even if you're not in the gate program, they still
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: have a record file on you. Someone does. CIA, NSA, FBI,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: you got a record file on you somewhere in one
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: of these organizations, three-letter organizations or the military. Someone's got
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: a file on you. You don't even have to be
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: in the gay program. There's nothing you can do about it.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: You can't opt out of it. Nothing your parents can
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: do about it. Nothing you can say about it. It's
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: just what it is. And then whenever the Patriot Act happened,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: it just made it even more impossible for the government
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: not to do that. Because then they just put it
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: under national security that now they can get access to
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: anybody's school record with a freaking.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Flip of a switch because of terrorism. So anything that
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: was left over from FERPA in the early seventies that
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: I was talking about earlier, whenever the parents found out
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: that the CIA had been getting access to all their
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: child's school records, the Patriot Act basically obliterated anything that
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: was left out of that, right? Because now they can
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: just go in under the threat of national security, just
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: like how that they can blink at your invention or
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: your patent or whatever it is that you have created
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: under the national security. You know, the Invention Secrecy Act
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: of 1951 literally says that the government can classify any
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: patent under the threat of national security. And, you know,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: what is national security? National security is whatever the government
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: says that it is. They can just make it out.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: Do you think there's any chance that there's an opposing
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: faction version of the gate program, like a resistance version
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: that's also ear-tagging potential advanced people?
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: That would be really interesting. That would be cool if
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: there was.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: Cause even this is in the weeds a little bit,
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: but I mean, I remember hearing from a guy named
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: Benjamin Fulford, who was like some economist that works out
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: of Japan, I think, but he was making all these
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: claims for a while that there is an oppositional force
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: to whatever you would classify as like the Illuminati in
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: modern day. And that in Japan, there's this white dragon society,
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: which believe it or not, I think is also in
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: an Ironman or like an Avengers comic, but that this
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: white dragon society is, is like the white hat Illuminati
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: that are constantly at battle with the black hat Illuminati.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: So I guess maybe in just like a dualistic version
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: of everything, I assume that there's got to be some
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: kind of a different, and even if it's not just
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: good versus bad, there's got to be a state versus
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: not the state aspect of this, or at least like,
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: warfare within the factions within who's ever running the gate
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: program the same way that if FBI and ATF are
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: both tasked on the same operation they might not be
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: working in tandem they might be like working in opposition
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: to each other.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah but the problem is too is that what is
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: bad and what is good you know what I mean
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: like I 100% believe that a lot of these people
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: believe that they're doing it for the greater good, that
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: they are the good guys.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: Well, we wouldn't want China to have all of the telepaths, right?
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: It's almost Project Paperclip-esque. You don't want the Nazis to
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: have all the rocket scientists. You want the American Nazis
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: to have the German Nazi scientists.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Exactly. So it becomes down to like a thing of
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: like ideology. Like what if the people that are running this,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: what we perceive to be a negative gate program, believe
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: that it's a good gate program.
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: I'm going to assume the answer is yes, but I
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: just want to know what your opinion would Danny basically
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: be like the gate programming poster child.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: I would think so. I think so.
• 54:47
  Speaker 8: 100 because a lot of what you're describing here and
• 54:52
  Speaker 8: the intent of it and like the how deep and
• 54:55
  Speaker 8: dark and underground some of this would imply all kinds
• 54:58
  Speaker 8: of tracking and surveillance there's another stephen king book called
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: the institution i believe they just recently had a whole
• 55:05
  Speaker 8: tv series and this this is basically the premise is
• 55:08
  Speaker 8: that um if you pop up on the radar for
• 55:12
  Speaker 8: having some sort of I think for the main character,
• 55:14
  Speaker 8: he's got telekinetic abilities, but if you're telekinetic or telepathic,
• 55:19
  Speaker 8: they call them TKs and TPs, or some people are both.
• 55:22
  Speaker 8: And if you show up on the list, you get
• 55:25
  Speaker 8: kidnapped and then trained in this sort of Monarch, MK Ultra,
• 55:30
  Speaker 8: you know, grade school. And then they train those kids
• 55:34
  Speaker 8: to basically become international political assassins using telepathy.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: I mean... How much of that do you think is
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: fiction versus Stephen King just wrote exactly what's going on?
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I got to tell you, whenever I watched that, because
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I had already wrote a lot of the movie already
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: before that series ever came out. Like it had already
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: been written. Everything that was going to be in the
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: movie was already in the movie. I'd filmed quite a
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: bit of it at that point. I've been working on
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: this for like, you know, three to four years. And
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I watched it and I was like, holy shit. This
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: is essentially my movie. This is a fictionalized version of
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Of my movie and not everything, not everything completely, uh,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: lines up, but a large majority of it is pretty
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: dang identical as to what's going on. Even to the
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: degree that you just said that they're assassinating people with
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: their mind. Now we talk about that in a psychic agent.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: the gate program, but not that children were doing it,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: but that it is possible to do. Lim Buchanan, which
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: was in the Stargate remote viewing unit, says that he
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: was asked if he could kill Osama bin Laden with
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: his mind. And I asked him, did you do it?
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: And he said, no, I wouldn't do it. And I said, well,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: just because you wouldn't do it, does that mean that
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: you can't do it? Could you do it if you
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: wanted to do it? He said, yes, of course I could.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: And then that brings into a whole other level of this.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: And that was my entire thing from the very beginning.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: They shut down the program in 1995. The remote viewing
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Stargate unit was supposed to be transferred to the CIA.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: And the CIA got their hands on it and they
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: shut it down. They said that nothing had ever come
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: of the unit and that's why they shut it. It
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: never amounted to any data collection information ever being obtained
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: by the psychics or the remote view, which is a
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: complete and utter lie. You're not going to have a
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: unit running from 1978 to 1995 and never get anything
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: out of it. There's a direct lie. So in my mind,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: why would they shut down that unit. And there's two
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: reasons that I believe that they would shut down the unit,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: other than the official explanation, which Angela Ford gets into
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: in the movie. And one of those reasons is, well,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: why you would want to shut that down is if
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: you already have another unit available. You already have another
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: group of people. And we do know that there was another,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: there were multiple remote viewing units, but the Stargate unit
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: was the only one that got essentially declassified that the
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: public knows about, but there were several others. One of
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: those was involved with the, and we don't know the
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: names of them because they've never been declassified. They only
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: declassified the one at Fort Meade, Maryland, which ended on
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: the Stargate program. But the other ones never got declassified,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: but they're were and probably still are. I can't confirm
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: that with 100% certainty. But I would be guessing what
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: they did is they found another use for remote viewing.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: And that turned into remote influencing, which then wraps in
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: remote assassination abilities as well, which then wraps into the
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Institute by Stephen King, which we found out in the
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Institute that whenever they get to that next level, whenever
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: they graduate from being MKUltra, they all go into this
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: separate building from the school and they all basically lock
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: minds and then they're able to project into somebody else's
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: body and see through their body and control their body
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: to assassinate and kill people.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: Where does Groflame come into this?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Groflame was just the name of the original remote viewing
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: unit that was done by Army Intelligence and then it
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: went to Sunstreak and then, well, first it was Center
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Lane and then grill flame, uh, then, uh, uh, sun streak.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: And then it ended, uh, was renamed, uh, Stargate.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: When, when it goes from each of those different programs,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: is that like a new group of people and they're
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: like shutting down one unit and starting up with a
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: new one? Or are they making use of the exact
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: same people and just changing the name of the program
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: for like obscurity reasons?
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Mostly for obscurity reasons. Sometimes it was shut down, but
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: it was transferred to another unit. It started out at
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Army Intelligence, and then DIA got involved, and then they
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: decided to do this joint unit between Army Intelligence and DIA,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: and then it went to be refunded and more money
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: be allocated toward it. And then they thought, the budget
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: subcommittee thought that the program had been double budgeted, but
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: it really wasn't double budgeted. It was just a unit
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: being funded from two different places the DIA and Army Intelligence.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: So then Army Intelligence had to split off from DIA
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: and then they created their own unit. But then later on,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: they ended up merging back with DIA, which then created
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: another name change. And then in the end, then it
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: had to be name changed again. So it was mostly,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, people dropped off and people came back and
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: then they left and then they come and then some
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: new people would come in toward the end. And, but
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: it was mostly the, there was only ever 20 people,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: less than 20 people were ever in the official unit
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  Speaker 1: from its inception till its very end.
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  Speaker 4: If we go to the most extreme end of the
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: spectrum for the capabilities of someone that maybe is, you know,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: like the valedictorian of the gate program and, you know,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: top of their class, top of the unit, they get
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: into the military. You just mentioned... one guy that said
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: that he could have just killed Osama bin Laden, like
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: with his mind, right? Is that like, is there anything
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  Speaker 4: beyond that? Cause I imagine that you could be like
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: a telepathic serial killer. If you had that kind of ability,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: couldn't you just sit back and just murder people all
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  Speaker 4: day with your mind and get away scot-free?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you could. But what would be the purpose of
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: actually doing that? The, the, The reason that they don't
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: do that is because it doesn't create political upheaval. Like,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: would you rather had Osama bin Laden die of a
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  Speaker 1: heart attack from some psychic remote viewer? Or was it
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  Speaker 1: better that SEAL Team 6 came in and took him
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  Speaker 1: out so that we can come back home and go, hoorah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: We finally took the emoji. I mean, I guess I'm
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: thinking way more on a personal level. It's not the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: military sending him out. But if I'm the individual that
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  Speaker 4: has the ability to murder someone with your mind, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I would just be putting sports bets down all the time.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: And right as the QB goes to make that game
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: winning pass, just like bloop. And then he just drops
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: dead on the field. And then I'm just making money.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you're going to have a shit ton
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: of karmic repercussions for just killing somebody with your mind, bro.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: You just can't get away with it with Scott Free, right?
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: The universe is going to come back at you tenfold
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: for killing somebody with your mind.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I guess if you are able to do
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: that sort of an act, like actual telepathy, does that
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  Speaker 4: mean that karmic debt is also real? Is that like
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: a package deal?
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  Speaker 1: I think karmic debt is real no matter what you're
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: talking about. If you drop a nuclear bomb on Hiroshima,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: the people responsible for dropping that bomb is going to
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: be living out karmic debt for a really long ass time.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Regardless if it's instant or if it's over a long
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: period of time. I mean, that's just the natural law.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have anything to do with religious ideology. I
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: just believe that that is how it is. Whenever I
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: do something wrong or whenever I do something bad, I
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: get that instant karma, dude. There's no time that hardly
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: waits in between me getting what's going to happen to
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: me between the event that I... do something wrong intentionally
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: to someone. So I just don't do anything wrong to anybody.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: I do my best not to intentionally ever wrong anyone,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: and then I'm normally always good. But I found that
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: out the hard way is that whenever I wrong someone
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: or intentionally hurt someone, I immediately get that karmic response.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: And it might not be like that for everyone. It
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: might take a long time, but I 100% believe that
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  Speaker 1: Whatever you do and whatever kind of life you lead,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: whether in this life or the next life or the
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: life after that or the life after that or for infinity,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: you're going to be living out those decisions that you made.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: I think this is an interesting concept. I'm going to
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: have this wrap back around to relate back to our
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: topic again. But on this concept of karmic debt, you
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: mentioned if you're the guy that dropped the bomb on Hiroshima, right? Well,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: if we look at the Manhattan Project, I can't remember
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: the number of people involved, but it was like 30,000
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: people or some ridiculous number. amount that didn't that they
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: were so compartmentalized by the DOD that they didn't necessarily
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: know what the hell they were doing so there's a
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: good chance that there was somebody involved in um the
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: manhattan project it was asked to you know like multiply
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: these two numbers together and because they did that the
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: nuke dropped so do you think that that person that
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: was abstracted away and compartmentalized away also shares some of
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: that karmic debt even though they just kind of added
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: numbers together and didn't realize what the big picture was.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: I think that it would be, just for the sake
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: of this, I think that it would 100% fall on
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: the person that gave the final order to drop the bomb.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: Do you believe in the concept of revelation of the
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: method to free karmic debt?
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: You have to show what's going to happen before it
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: happens in order to... Yes, I do. I do believe
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: that that is a thing. I believe that that happens
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: all the time. That's a big reason why People call
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: that predictive programming, but I believe that they got that wrong.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: I don't believe that that's predictive programming. I believe that
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: that is a way for them to get away with
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: the event and not have any karmic debt on them.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: So if you put out a movie like Contagion, That
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: is exactly like COVID to the T. Everything that happened
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: in 2020 that this movie came out in what, 2013
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: or 2012? You put out a movie like that and
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: then whatever it is that you do in 2020, like
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: there's not any issues. No problems. You've already showed them
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: what's going to happen. And they subconsciously already know. It
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter when it happens. It could be 20 years later,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: 10 years later, five years later. I mean, but then
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: there could be some kind of time limit on it.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what the cosmic law
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: is on that. But I would imagine that as long
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: as you've told that's what I believe that the revelation
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: of the method is for. It's what I believe the
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: predictive programming is for. And I've always stood firm on
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: that is, is that is exactly how it's done and
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: why it's done. It's not to give us some kind
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: of poor knowledge or to let people know. I mean,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: it is to let people know, but it's where the,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: they don't have any repercussions for the things that they're
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: getting ready to do.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: What are some, um, Non weaponized versions of the skills
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: that you might develop in the gate. I guess I'm
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: specifically talking about like telepathy. Right. Are there any like
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: if let's say that someone's listening and they're like, I'm
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: legitimately a telepath. I could kill you with my mind,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: but I don't want the karmic debt. What are good
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: things you can do with telepathy? Maybe this is just
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: telling on myself a little too much, but for me,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: it's just like you just win at gambling and getting
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: an unfair advantage at every turn of life. But how
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: do I use being able to read someone else's mind
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: aside from buying them the perfect Christmas present.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: Well, with remote influencing, Dale Graff and Lynn Buchanan actually
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: talked about this in the interview that I did with
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: them for the movie. I went to them and talked
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: with them for hours for the movie. And they had
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: mentioned that remote influencing works the same exact way as
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: it does before the positive as it does for the negative.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: So just as you can implant thoughts and ideas into
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: people's heads and negatively influence them, make them do something
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: that they otherwise wouldn't do. Now, this happens over a
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: long period of time. You just can't sit here and
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: try and remote influence somebody one time and expect it
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: to work. This happens over a long period of time,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: sometimes months of working on a individual or on a target.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: And remote influencing is very real. We show a document
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: in the movie that was written by Ed May that
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: gives you the steps and the guidelines on how to
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: remote influence somebody. Now, we didn't go over all the
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: steps in there because I think that it's really important
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: information and we don't want people to nefarious people to
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: actually have access to that information because it's actually a
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: very rare document that not a lot of people have
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: access to, but I show that it's real in the movie.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: But both of them have said that it works the
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: opposite way too, that you can literally heal people through
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: remote influencing. You can help them with paralysis. You can
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: help their vision heal. You can help their hearing. You
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: can help some people be able to walk again. You
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: can help them in any kind of way that you
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: could possibly think of, just as you can think of
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: a negative way to influence somebody to, you know, crash
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: a plane or to derail a train or what all
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: those things are also possible. as well, but just as
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: the negative things are possible, also the positive things are
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: possible as well.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: Do you delineate any of this from like witchcraft? Like
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: for example, uh, like, you know, Donald Trump's about to
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: get elected or there's an, all of the witches in,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: you know, New York get together on like the Brooklyn
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: bridge and start casting spells out into the ether. Uh,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: expecting to basically have this like large impact, a very
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: similar way, I guess, that you would describe like the Institute.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: So instead of a bunch of kids getting in a
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: room and trying to take over a pilot and have
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: a pilot crash into a mountain and take out, you know,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: whatever warlords on board, um, like is like, what's the
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: difference between a bunch of witches or a bunch of
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: Christians getting together and praying for a certain outcome? Are
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: we just talking about different lens, you know, looking at
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: the exact same thing or do you delineate like actual
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: differences between those?
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Well, it would be a difference of technique, right? In
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: the way that you do it. I mean, from my understanding,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: a bunch of black magic is, you know, ritualistic in nature,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: that it requires a totem, it requires a sacrifice, it requires,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes an animal sacrifice and other very extreme instances,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: you know, blood sacrifice and sacrifice of possibly another individual.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: But I would say that the thing that uh is
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: the most similar between both of them is that you
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: can't prove either one of.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: Them right you can't good.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: You can't prove that remote influencing works and you can't
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: prove that black magic works either it's it's it's the
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: same in that regard is that you know the process
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: of them are very much different, but the similarity is,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: is that you can, uh, you can't prove either one
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: Why is that? Why, like, why couldn't you do a
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: double blind study on, uh, influencing someone? Cause I mean,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: you could have the person that has the ability to
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: influence someone remotely. And then the person that's going to
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: be influenced and just have, you know, independent observers on
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: both ends of that. Like how, how is that not
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: something that could be objectively tested?
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it could, but then there's ethics involved
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: in it. And, you know, doing human testing on human
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: trials is something that's, you know, very difficult to do
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: when it involves testing on another human being. And I
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: think that the time constraints as well, you know what
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: I mean? You would have to be, 100% sure that the,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: that the person doesn't know anything about what it is
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: that the experiment is about.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: If I'm trying to convince you to go eat McDonald's
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: every day, then in order to prove that we would
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: have to somehow make sure that you didn't see any
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: McDonald's ads. Throughout the month, you know what I mean?
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: So is there no other external influences that is going
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: to be influencing you in the outcome that you're wanting
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: to get? It would be the issue would be the
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: problems because how could you guarantee that you just can't
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: lock people up in a scientific study for months at
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: a time?
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: I guess I'm thinking maybe too superficially, but, uh, like
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: a stage magic show with the hypnotist where the proof is,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: will this person act like a chicken when I, you know,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: snap my fingers or whatever, and then claim that they
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: didn't know it. Uh, like, As a level of like
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: high suggestibility, can there just be another version of that?
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: Because I guess what's the main difference between a hypnotist
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: hypnotizing you to do something to prove he has an
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: ability as a hypnotist versus now he's just doing that remotely?
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: It seems like the exact same scenario could kind of
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: play out.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. And that's what Russia
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: was also really into was this program called Adani Gipnos,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: which is hypnosis at a distance. And it's interesting that
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: you bring up hypnosis because I just went to a
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: hypnosis show. I just saw hypnosis at the California State Fair, bro.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: What do you think about that? Do you think it's
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: like people playing? Because I guess the skeptic version is
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: that Someone is just highly suggestive and they're kind of
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: like LARPing to their best LARPer ability. And that's what
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: usually hypnosis is versus people unwittingly doing things that they
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: necessarily don't want to do.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: I thought that it was very interesting. I think that
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: there were at least one or two plants in the crowd.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like people that were also
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: involved in the entire production that were with this individual.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: Right. Well, they're there to wet the whistle a little
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: bit to make it so like, oh, well, that guy
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: made an ass of himself. So maybe I'm open to
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: being suggestible to him.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: Exactly. But what I did find interesting, but I don't
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: believe everyone was like that because a lot of people
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: were there with their families. So it would be really
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: hard for this individual to just go on a tour
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: and bring entire families with her at every stop. It
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: would be very difficult for her to do that. Not impossible,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: but pretty dang difficult. But what I did find interesting
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: is that she brought a lot of these people up
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: on stage. Uh, she picked a lot of them out
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: of the crowd. Uh, they came up on stage and
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: then she did a little thing. Uh, you know, she
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: would talk and be like, you know, uh, I'm going to,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: whenever I count to three, you're going to be, uh,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: passed out and you're not going to move. You're going
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: to put your head down and not going to speak
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: or anything. You're going to be completely, you're going to
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: be basically asleep. And, uh, Pretty much everybody almost immediately
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: went to sleep. Even the kids. Even the young kids,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: like the five and six, seven. There was like young
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: kids that were as young as five years old up there.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: And I thought that that was really interesting because it's
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: hard to get a five-year-old to stay still for a
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: long period of time. And they were. They were out cold, dude.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: They were just didn't move. the entire time until she
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: said for them to move.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: And that wouldn't be hard to take someone out of,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: especially if you could remote hypnotize them as they're driving
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: to just pass out on the road. And like, no
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: one would even, who would even know that that was
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: an assassination.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: I believe that that has happened.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: What about how much credit do you give the claims
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: made in the men who stare at goats, which is
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: the book that was by John Ronson and then later
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: made into the movie starring George Clooney. And I can't
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: remember who else, Jeff Bridges. I do.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: I do believe that. I mean, I really liked the movie.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: I thought the movie was great. I thought it was
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: really funny, even though it was, you know, making fun of,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: the remote viewing units. But what's interesting about that is
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: that that was like a mixture of the other units
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: that have never been declassified, which had to do with
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: remote viewing and combat. And it's been theorized that that
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: unit was a place in Texas or in the Carolinas
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: or somewhere in Northern California. No one really knows, but
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: that program is supposedly called Project Delta because Lynn Buchanan
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: was in the movie talks about how he got a
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: letter invite to go to project Delta. And, uh, he
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: tore it up and refused because it was a combat
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: unit and he was out of combat. He didn't want
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: to do any, he didn't want to be involved with
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: anything that had anything to do with combat. And it
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: wasn't until later on that he found out that that
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: unit was combining psychic abilities along with combat. And, uh,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: The Men Who Stare at Goats is based upon a
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: lot of people's stories that were involved in the unit.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: Lynn Buchanan is Lynn Cassidy, which is George Clooney's character
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: in The Men Who Stare at Goats. And it's like
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: a quasi look at a lot of people's stories that
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: were involved in both of these units and the one
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: that's been declassified and the one that has never been declassified.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, apparently the killing a goat with your mind
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  Speaker 1: really did happen. And it really was done.
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  Speaker 4: My, I guess my takeaway from the book and the movie,
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  Speaker 4: the both of them kind of combined is that the premise,
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  Speaker 4: and this might be a strange takeaway, but that, the
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  Speaker 4: way they were able to train soldiers to want to kill,
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  Speaker 4: because I think that was the original catalyst, at least in,
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  Speaker 4: the men who stare at goats was that in Vietnam,
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  Speaker 4: the GIs had like perfect shots to take out the
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  Speaker 4: Viet Cong, but they were unconsciously aiming high so that
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  Speaker 4: they would intentionally miss because deep down, they didn't want
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: that karmic debt that they just murdered another person. So
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 4: the army, the military decides, how do we train these
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  Speaker 4: guys to shoot, to kill against their own like conscience?
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  Speaker 4: That's trying to prevent them from incurring this karmic debt.
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  Speaker 4: And it goes down this line, long rabbit hole but
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  Speaker 4: i think the solution that they came up with which
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  Speaker 4: is where they found this uh this telepathic warfare was
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  Speaker 4: to train them all in new age philosophy that we
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  Speaker 4: are all one because now all of a sudden that
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: viet cong across the field it doesn't matter if you
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  Speaker 4: get a head shot because you are him and he
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  Speaker 4: is you and we are all one so it was
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  Speaker 4: almost taking this like free love we are one universalism
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  Speaker 4: and using that as a justification of why you can
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  Speaker 4: murder somebody without karmic debt essentially did i get the
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: right takeaway.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that was really good and that seems to be
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  Speaker 1: exactly like what's uh going on in that that setup
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  Speaker 1: because if you know if you're killing another individual then
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  Speaker 1: that's one thing but if you're just you know killing
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  Speaker 1: a person that's just a part of you and a
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  Speaker 1: part of the whole, then that's not such a big deal.
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  Speaker 7: 100%.
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  Speaker 1: I think that that is probably a really big agenda
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  Speaker 1: of the new age community.
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  Speaker 4: If Ryder Lee's put in charge of the gate program tomorrow,
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  Speaker 4: you get the call that you've been waiting on and
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: you know it's coming because you're slightly telepathic. I have
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: that sense about you. But you answer the call and
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: they're like, all right, Ryder, you know, everyone else has
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  Speaker 4: flubbed this thing. You're in charge. What's the first course
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  Speaker 4: of action? What is the GATE program focused on right now?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's a really good question. And I don't really know.
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  Speaker 1: I probably just close it all down because I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what, because I would have to be in charge
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  Speaker 1: of so many other things in order to adequately manage
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  Speaker 1: know exactly what it is that i'm supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: doing but.
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  Speaker 4: If you shut it all down they all become free
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  Speaker 4: agents and now china can recruit them all no like
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  Speaker 4: isn't there don't we have a duty for national the
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  Speaker 4: actual national security without using it as like a weasel
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  Speaker 4: out but that we would need to retain all of
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  Speaker 4: our paperclip nazi scientist gate program you know valedictorians.
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  Speaker 1: Have we really had that many people defect to China?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, if they're offering a better deal, I guess.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, defecting somewhere, though. Mossad. What
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  Speaker 4: if China tells you, hey, you don't even have to
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  Speaker 4: move to China. You just got to be an agent
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  Speaker 4: for us. And, you know, the rest of life will
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: be cushy for you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know too many people that... That would
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  Speaker 1: actually go. I don't think anybody wants to go to China.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know anybody.
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  Speaker 4: That wouldn't be the selling point. They wouldn't lead with, hey,
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  Speaker 4: and you have to live in China. And honestly, without
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: being like facetious about this, I really do think that
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  Speaker 4: if China wanted to be the one that recruited you,
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  Speaker 4: you would never know it came from China. Just like
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: Tim Pool didn't know that that came from Russian oligarchs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they would probably do it in the most covert
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: way that they possibly could. There's some kind of roundabout
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: back channel funding through some shell corporation set up through
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: some NGO way through some donation center. Because that's how
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: they're getting money here.
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  Speaker 4: Is a full industry with supply chains and logistic units and,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: you know, basically ways to rate people that were within
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: the gate program. So legitimately, it doesn't seem like a
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  Speaker 4: thing that would just be shut down. If anything, if
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  Speaker 4: someone said shut it down, that's just giving the signal
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: of like, okay, splinter up and become multiple factions, no
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  Speaker 4: longer have it under some sort of federal guideline where
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: it's all trying to achieve one specific goal in in
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: tandem and coordination with each other. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I would need more information on what it
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: is that I was actually doing. Like what, what would
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: my department be recruiting for? And then I would decide
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: on what, what course of action I would do based
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: off of what it is that the agenda is. Because
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: just being one of those people in charge, because I
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: don't believe that that person is in charge of just
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: the GATE program, right? The person that is the president
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: of all the GATE programs, I don't think that they're
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: just in charge of all the GATE programs. They have
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: other responsibilities. they got other things going on that they're
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: also in charge of that loops in and connects into
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: the gate program. So I would have to know all
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: of those things as well in order to make an
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  Speaker 1: educated version of exactly what it is that I would do.
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  Speaker 1: But I would, I would probably try and do something
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  Speaker 1: that would like actually help.
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  Speaker 4: People.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and if I could, I would just open
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  Speaker 1: up a, and if I had to keep doing the
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: same thing that, has been being done since as early
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: as the sixties, you know, the way that things have
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: been going. And if I had to keep that, then I,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: I would attempt to open up a wing or a
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: section of it that could be some kind of a
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: counter operation. If there isn't already some sort of counter operation,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: like what we were talking about there. Because I do
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: believe if there is one, then it's probably ran by
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: the exact same people, right? Because that's the way that
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: you would want to do it. It's not a completely
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: separate– it's not the good guys versus the bad guys.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: It's normally the bad guys that are running both sides
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: of the equation. They're funding both sides.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: You would start an adversarial unit, meaning not a true adversary,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: but just– set up in opposition to you to kind
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: of do a red team, blue team thing to figure
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: out what the deficiencies are in each other. And I
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: guess it would be like a very Hegelian sort of approach, right? Thesis, antithesis, synthesis.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: That would kind of be how the two oppositional structures
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: will be set up together. But I guess I'm also
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: thinking that if there's an altruistic version of this, you know,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 4: the exact inverse of Stephen King's The Institute where you're
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: training kids to crash a plane and takes out, you know,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: these delegates, couldn't you get a room full of Institute
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: kids to get like Netanyahu to fall in love with
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 4: the leaders of Hamas and vice versa and like spread
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 4: love in ways where you're not taking people out, but
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 4: that you're like forcing them to get along.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: Yes. And the only reason that that's not happening is
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: because they don't want it to happen. That's the only
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: reason that, that anything, that's the reason why good things
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: don't happen. That's why we don't have world peace. That's
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: why we're not living in some sort of, Freaking utopian society.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: What's the reason we don't have free energy right now?
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: It's the reason why we don't have flying cars. It's
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: the reason why we don't have any of that shit.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: It's the reason why we're living the exact same type
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: of life that we've been living for the past hundred
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: freaking years, dude. Nothing has changed besides our technology and
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: the way that we communicate. That's the only thing that's changed.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: We're using the same planes. We're using the same vehicles, basically.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: Few things have changed with the vehicles. We got some
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: electric cars. But if you go back, we've had electric
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: cars for freaking 150 years, bro. They had electric cars
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: in the damn World's Fairs, dude. You know, like, you know,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: why is it that we've just been held back this
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: entire time? And the only reason is because they just
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: don't want it to be right. They want to when
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: it's beneficial to them, then we'll somehow get. some kind
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: of advancement in there, but it's going to be a
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: slow drip process. It's exactly like the UFO topic, right?
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: That just give you a little drip, drip, a dribble
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: right there. Because if we just come out and be like,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, guess what? This is all of our technology.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: And we've had this anti-gravity craft since fricking early fifties.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: We did, we discovered this, we created it. We actually
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: had a way back further than that. We've had it
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: since the airships in the late 1800s. You know, we've
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: had this for a long time. And guess what? You
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: could have had free energy with this technology. Oh, guess what?
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: We could have had, you know, all this quantum computing.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: Guess what? Everybody could have had access to this technology.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: Guess what? Cancer doesn't have to exist. Guess what? You
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: don't have to have disease. You can be instantly healed
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: and instantly cured.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 7: It's not going to happen.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that it can't. It doesn't mean
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: that it could. It definitely could.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: If someone wants to learn more about this, aside from
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: watching your movie, obviously, which we'll plug again in a second.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 4: But like, are you familiar with any support groups or
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 4: like after gate program, you know, groups that people get
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 4: together on an individual level and try and like piece together?
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 4: the different parts of this? Because it seems like this
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 4: could easily come together slowly on, like, online forums and
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 4: Xthreads and stuff, but do people actually get together and discover,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: you know, like, fill in the blanks? Because, for example,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 4: when you were talking about the pink and the orange
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: drink before, I was like, I don't remember doing any
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: kind of drink, but then when you said... No, no.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: Some people would just swish it around and they said
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: it was fluoride and they would spit it out. The
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 4: second you said that, I was like, oh, I actually
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 4: remember doing that in school at some point. But like,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: how else would somebody get together and be able to,
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: I guess, not quite like a past life regression, but
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: sort of a, you know, like a regression process where
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 4: you start recalling more and more about your gait experience?
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  Speaker 1: There are Facebook groups online that people are really respectful in.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: Some of them are private groups that you have to
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: be invited to. There are a few public ones on there.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: There's a big community of people on TikTok. I don't
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: really mess with TikTok too much. I don't post on
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: there because they deleted my original channel that had millions
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: of views and I just never... Got around to really
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: building up another one. But TikTok is a really good
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: place to communicate with people about the gate programs. And
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: it's kind of evolved from there. It's gone into even,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, the whole thing is like, there's a basement
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: to it. There's a trap door to the basement. And
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: then there's a trap door to that trap door. And
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: then there's an underground freaking facility. at the bottom of there.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: And then there's a whole ancient civilization underneath that underground
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: city that was built on top of it. That's how
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: deep a lot of this stuff goes. And at a
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: point I was just like, man, like I can't, I
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: can't keep going into the research here. I have to
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: just stop and just make this movie or the movie's
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: never going to get made. I was just drowning in information.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: But the thing that they've gotten into now is like
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: this dream world. And I don't know if there's really
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: connection to the gate program with this or not, but
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: people describe having dreams every single night of being in
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: a mall called mall world. And they're there with the
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: same people and they've mapped it out. They got a
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: whole freaking map that they've drew up of mall world
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: and all the things that are in mall world and
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: all the people that they meet there. They don't know
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: them in real life. And one girl actually told a
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: story of how she basically grew up with these people
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: in her dreams. Like she was living a separate reality
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: from the real reality that she was living in her dreams.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: And she had these childhood friends in her dreams that
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: she literally grew up with and would dream about every
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: single night. Then she stopped dreaming about them for a
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: long time. And then she got to this dream where
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: she's in a mall. And then finally, these people, these
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: two friends that she had grown up with in this
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: dream show up at the mall. And we're like, I've
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: been looking for you. I don't know where you've been.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: Like all it's like, I'm just like, I don't even know.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. I have no idea what's going
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: on with that. Could be related to the gate program.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: People say that it's related to the gate program, but
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: I do know that people have really, really, really vivid dreams.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: I actually know this girl that, um, has literally been
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: living a completely different reality every day, every night of
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: her life. And it's so hard for her to distinguish
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: what's real and what's not. Like she's literally living a
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: completely separate life every night that she goes to sleep.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: And it's a continuous thing. Like she'll go to sleep
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: and pick right back off where she left that the
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: last day, the last time that she woke up.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 7: It's insane.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: There's things that's going on with our consciousness that people
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: that we haven't even began to explore or try and understand.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if it's connected, but it's definitely interesting.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 4: I feel like at least one of us is telepathic
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: because I was going to ask you. what's the you
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 4: know the longest deepest darkest rabbit hole that you couldn't
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 4: necessarily follow all the way through to the end when
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 4: it comes to the gate program and i would say
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 4: that mall world probably is one of those deep dark
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: rabbit holes that could you know consume the rest of
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 4: your life or at least the next documentary that you
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 4: end up putting together could maybe be about more world
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 4: i don't know it depends on how much you care
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: about that lucid dream realm i'd I've heard that a
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 4: number of times, and I think that's beyond fascinating that
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 4: there might be some sort of objective another dimension or
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 4: plane where people can relate to each other that if
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 4: you think about it, we spend what, like roughly a
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 4: third of our lives asleep. And there's not when we're
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: talking about the gate program is where you go to
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 4: school and they bring you into other rooms and give
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 4: you special tests and stuff. But even then, they're not
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 4: necessarily or maybe that's the only version of teaching you
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 4: about how to live in this alternate realm, whether it's
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 4: lucid dreaming or something beyond that. But isn't it isn't
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 4: it wild, though, that. In homeschool, in private school, in
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: public school, there's no classes on here's how to lucid dream.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: Here's how to navigate the unconscious world, despite the fact
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 4: that we all spend a third of our lives there.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: It's super fascinating and it blows my mind all the time.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: Like how we do not understand really anything about the
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: dream realm. We haven't been told how to navigate it.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: We have absolutely no understanding of it at all. And
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: just like you said, we spend most of our lives
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: in that realm and we know nothing about it, but
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: it's almost like the exact same way as the waking world.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: We don't know where we're from.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: Here either.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know what this is. All I know is
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: I got to wake up and live, right? And I
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: got to do my stuff and put together my things.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know where. Nobody knows where they're from or
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: what they're doing here or what the overall arching purpose
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: of any of this really is. And that's the biggest
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: mystery of the life. but it's just like the dream
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: realm as well. We don't know what that one's even,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: we're even more in the dark on that one. Is
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: it a tangent universe? Is it a different reality? Is it,
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: is it a possibility that, you know, the string theory
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: is correct and that, uh, it's just a separate reality.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: And then, then what if when we die, we just
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  Speaker 1: go into that other tangent universe or into that other
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  Speaker 1: tangent reality. Have you ever watched the show? Um, The OA?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Carlos Castaneda derived OA.
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  Speaker 7: Incredible shot.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's that.
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  Speaker 4: The OA, I'm blanking on the specific practice, but in
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  Speaker 4: the OA, they do these very specific calculated moves where
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  Speaker 4: they like, put their arms together and they're like, and
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  Speaker 4: what they're doing, man, I wish I could remember the
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  Speaker 4: name of this practice, but Carlos Castaneda, I think came
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  Speaker 4: up with this premise. And the whole thing is that
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  Speaker 4: your body has latent energy. So like in between your fingers,
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  Speaker 4: energy just kind of builds up and sits there and
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  Speaker 4: doesn't get used. So in the OA, when they're doing
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  Speaker 4: these different motions, you'll see what they're doing is they're
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  Speaker 4: kind of like scooping the energy out of the inside
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  Speaker 4: of your elbows and in between your fingers and like
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  Speaker 4: in like the crevices of the physical body, because the
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  Speaker 4: theory is that in these crevices is where actual spiritual
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  Speaker 4: energy builds up. So they're kind of like scraping it
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  Speaker 4: all and harvesting it the same way. If you ran
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  Speaker 4: through a hash field and you've got trichromes all over
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  Speaker 4: you and you turn it into hash balls, they're sort
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  Speaker 4: of doing that at a, telepathic, telekinetic, spiritual level. And
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  Speaker 4: that's the whole premise of the OA.
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  Speaker 1: That's really interesting. I didn't know that that was a
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  Speaker 1: real thing. I thought it was just a TV show.
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  Speaker 1: But the TV show, the OA, they basically do that
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  Speaker 1: exact same thing. They do all these weird movements and
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  Speaker 1: they combine them all together and then they're literally able
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  Speaker 1: to jump as a group into a different timeline.
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  Speaker 4: So this is like a gate program kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Sort of. But then it's like, okay, well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and then it's like, well, what happens when you, what
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  Speaker 1: if when you die, you don't even go to it?
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  Speaker 1: What if you just live the exact same life over
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  Speaker 1: and over and over again? Right? Like what if, what
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  Speaker 1: if whenever we die, we just, we just go, we
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  Speaker 1: just do the exact same thing. again, the exact same life.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe the goal is to actually remember what it
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  Speaker 1: is that you're supposed to do in order to make
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  Speaker 1: the best choices in this life. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: It's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Something that I've definitely been thinking about here as of late.
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  Speaker 1: I think people might have it wrong. I think that
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  Speaker 1: that might be the real allure of reincarnation is that
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  Speaker 1: you don't come back as a completely separate thing and
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  Speaker 1: living a completely separate life. You can come back and
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  Speaker 1: do the exact same thing again if you want. And
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  Speaker 1: that might be the allure of wanting to come back
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  Speaker 1: in the first place is that you get to do
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  Speaker 1: the exact same thing and make minor changes and somehow
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  Speaker 1: imprint upon your consciousness in order to remember certain events
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  Speaker 1: and certain life moments that will give you the best outcome.
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  Speaker 4: So this might have been like the 200,000th time that
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  Speaker 4: you've been on here and done this interview. So let
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 4: me ask you for the 200,000 and first time to
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  Speaker 4: go ahead and tell people where they can find your latest, uh,
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 4: gate movie and everything else. Clockwork shining, just all, all
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: of your material. Where should they go and watch it?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think even if you were to
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  Speaker 1: do the life over again, it doesn't mean that you
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  Speaker 1: end up at the... This could be the first time
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  Speaker 1: that I ever did a podcast. This could have been
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  Speaker 1: the first time that I ever became a filmmaker and
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  Speaker 1: that I have movies on Amazon Prime that you can
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: purchase online. The Gate Program, Psychic Agent, The Gate Program
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  Speaker 1: that you can purchase now on Amazon Prime. This might
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  Speaker 1: have been the first time that I've ever done that before.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of like, have you ever watched the show From?
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  Speaker 4: Yes. Very Stephen King-y vibes.
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  Speaker 1: And Lost and kind of 30 Days of Night.
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  Speaker 4: Lost is great. Lost in that they always... do these
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: weird reveals and if you watch the show long enough
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  Speaker 4: you're like they're never going to explain this like this
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  Speaker 4: is just the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Well in the show from uh they basically uh they
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  Speaker 1: kind of get it revealed that a lot of the
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: people that are stuck inside of the town are have
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: been there hundreds of times before.
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  Speaker 4: And they keep going back. Even if they escape, they somehow...
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  Speaker 4: And I think there's even a subplot that they haven't
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 4: fully developed, but that this might be a military operation
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  Speaker 4: because they were using radio frequencies and they were able
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 4: to pick up some kind of military transmission.
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  Speaker 1: So in the last season of the show that came
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: out this year, it's not the final season, but it's
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: the latest one to release. The man in yellow, which
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: is the one that's kind of in charge of all
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: of the vampire creatures, encounters Tabitha and is basically like.
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  Speaker 1: You've done a lot all the many times that you've
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: been here. You've done a lot of things, but this
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: is the first time that you've ever wanted to destroy
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: the tree. You know what I mean? So finally, they're
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: doing something that is different than what they've been doing
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  Speaker 1: this entire time. The hundreds of other times that they've
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: been there, they're finally... they're finally getting something and doing
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  Speaker 1: something different. So something has changed, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That's just my theory and something that I'm working on now.
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  Speaker 1: People are interested. Please check out my documentaries on Amazon prime.
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  Speaker 1: You can find the gate program, a psychic agent, the
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: gate program on Amazon prime. You can rent it or
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: purchase it there. You can also check out a clockwork
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  Speaker 1: shining at Kubrick's odyssey three on Amazon prime to be and, uh,
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: Apple TV and JFK solving the crime of the century, uh,
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: also on Amazon Prime and Tubi as well, for free
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: on there as well. And if you'd like to reach
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: out to me personally, you can find me at RaisedByGiantsPod
• 1:46:05
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• 1:46:11
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• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: all podcast platforms. And if you would like a DVD
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: copy of the movie, Psychic Agent, you can reach out
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: to me at raised by giants at outlook.com. And I
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: can get a DVD physical copy, mail it out to you. Uh,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: if you would like, if you're into physical media, I
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: think physical media is making a comeback. Uh, as soon
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: as you don't have access to things anymore, people all
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: of a sudden want them. So, uh, I think physical
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: media is going to come back. So if you'd like
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: to get a physical DVD copy, just send me an
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  Speaker 1: email at raised by giants at outlook.com. Thanks so much
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: for having me on brother. Brilliant and wonderful conversation.
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  Speaker 4: Likewise, man, I always like having you on because not
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 4: only do you bring up really interesting topics and you
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: shed like new light on them. It's not just like
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 4: a regurgitation of things that you've heard a million times,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 4: but you truly go the distance, man. You know, like
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 4: you you will sort of exhaust all the different angles
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 4: until you run into a dream mall. And then you're like, OK,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 4: I found at least the seam of the thing I
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 4: was focused on. And here's where that seems. I absolutely
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  Speaker 4: love that. As a self-plug here, I've got a show
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 4: called Under the Docks, and we have reviewed all of
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 4: the Kubrick's Odyssey, including recently we did Clockwork Shining. So
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 4: if you want to see if we praise or trash
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 4: that documentary from Ryder Lee and Jay Widener, spoiler alert,
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 4: we both loved it. I can't hold you in suspense,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 4: but if you want to go and check that out,
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 4: you can go and see what me and Sean Chris
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 4: from Kill the Mockingbirds podcast did. think about that entire sequence.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 4: And I'm sure we're going to be covering the gate
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 4: movie pretty soon on under the docks as well. So
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it would skew the bias. If
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: we had you on for an episode to review your
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 4: own movie, but we'll see maybe in the future to,
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 4: to talk about that again on another platform for a
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 4: whole nother group of people. So if you find anything interesting,
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 4: go and search for under the docks and paranoid American
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 4: and rider lee and raised by giants uh everywhere you
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  Speaker 4: can rider man thank you so much for another fascinating
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 4: conversation thanks.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: So much brother really appreciate it let's do it again
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  Speaker 1: sometime soon.
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  Speaker 7: Bye.
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  Speaker 1: Just buy something.
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  Speaker 4: From Paranoid American Just buy something.
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  Speaker 4: From Paranoid American Paranoid Yo Yo.
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  Speaker 9: I scribble my life away, driven to write the page.
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  Speaker 9: Will it enlighten your brain? Give you the flight, my
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  Speaker 9: plane paper, the highs ablaze. Somewhat of an amazing feel.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 9: When it's real to real, you will engage it. Your favorite,
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  Speaker 9: of course, the lord of an arrangement. I gave you
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 9: the proper results to hit the pavement. If they get emotional, hey,
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 9: maybe your language, a game. How they playing it well
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 9: without lay. Cause evade them, whatever the cost.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: They out of shape.
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  Speaker 9: Snakes get decapitated, mad as the apex.
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  Speaker 6: Execution of flame, you out nuclear bomb Distributed at war,
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  Speaker 6: rather gruesome for eyes to see Maxim out then I
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 6: light my trees Blow it off in the face, you're
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 6: despising me for what though?
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 9: Calculated and rather cutthroat Paranoid American must be all the
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  Speaker 9: blood smoke for real Lord give me a day away,
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  Speaker 9: vacate They wait around to hate whatever they say Matters not.
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  Speaker 4: In the least bit, we get.
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  Speaker 9: Heavy rotate when a beat hits So thank us you well,
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  Speaker 9: fuck the niggas for real You're welcome They ain't never
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 9: had a deal. You're welcome.
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  Speaker 6: Man, they lacking a pill. You're welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Yet they doing it still.
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  Speaker 6: You're welcome.