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The Ron Verb Show - 5pm Hour Tuesday, 08/18/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: Back to it. It's 505 NewsRadio 570 WKBN. And Ron Verb, G2,
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  Speaker 2: will be joining me momentarily. Go ahead and finish your thoughts, caller.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of those things none of us really know.
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  Speaker 3: We're not out on that ship, and so we don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But the ship coming back now, I'm sure it's time.
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  Speaker 3: We were out for seven-month cruises, and we had to
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  Speaker 3: come back. And it's basically the ship's systems are wearing
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  Speaker 3: out and need repaired and need maintenance and things like that,
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  Speaker 3: maintenance that you can't do at sea.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It is, I'm sure it's probably time for that ship
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  Speaker 3: to head back to the States and get its maintenance.
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  Speaker 3: And one last thing, my wife and I, we were
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  Speaker 3: just down in Georgia. We just got home. We filled
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  Speaker 3: up down there. The last time I filled up before
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  Speaker 3: we left, I paid $ 3. 65 a gallon for gas. And
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  Speaker 3: it's just crazy. You get up here and it's $ 4. 40
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  Speaker 3: or so.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Did you put any spare in the trunk?
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  Speaker 4: No. Oh, I wish I could.
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  Speaker 3: Believe me. The further north we went, the more expensive
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  Speaker 3: it got.
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  Speaker 2: What were you doing in Georgia?
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  Speaker 3: We had to go to my wife's family reunion.
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  Speaker 2: How was that?
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  Speaker 3: It was nice. It was really nice. All their family
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  Speaker 3: was very welcoming to me, and she hadn't been to
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  Speaker 3: one in quite a number of years, so it was
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  Speaker 3: great for her.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's terrific. Did you enjoy Georgia? It's a beautiful state.
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  Speaker 3: It was beautiful down there. We had a nice time.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing was it was hot. It was in
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  Speaker 3: the 90s every day, and the humidity was up there, too.
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  Speaker 3: And there was no air movement. There was no breeze
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  Speaker 3: or anything like that.
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  Speaker 4: So it was hot.
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  Speaker 2: Well, welcome home. I'm glad you're back, and I'm glad
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  Speaker 2: you had a good time. And most importantly, that your
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  Speaker 2: wife had a good time connecting with her family. Welcome home.
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  Speaker 4: Great. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. G2 coming up. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 5: Hello?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: Hey, Ron. How you doing? Hey, this is Joe from Campville. Hey,
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  Speaker 7: I was just calling to comment on the material condition
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  Speaker 7: of these ships and the complaints these young sailors are having.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 7: I haven't seen any recent news. The one picture that
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  Speaker 7: I did see was a block wall, concrete wall. So
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  Speaker 7: I knew that picture didn't come from the ship. I
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  Speaker 7: retired from 22 years in the Navy, and I served
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  Speaker 7: on many carriers. I can't believe what they're saying. Some
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  Speaker 7: of those pictures of the food, the Navy serves four
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  Speaker 7: meals a day, and the last one is around midnight.
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  Speaker 7: And it's usually leftovers. It's for late night. It's more
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  Speaker 7: like a snack or something you'd get late night at
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  Speaker 7: a buffet somewhere. It's not the best. They don't prepare
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  Speaker 7: all brand-new fresh food for the last meal of the night.
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  Speaker 7: And it could be substandard. But we don't know what
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  Speaker 7: these kids put on their plate for them photos. They
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  Speaker 7: just could have put two tortillas and a scoop of rice.
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  Speaker 7: because they're picky eaters. I've met a lot of those.
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  Speaker 7: So I don't give it a lot of credibility. The
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  Speaker 7: mold in the bathrooms, there's no maid service on the ship.
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  Speaker 7: Each division that lives in that space is in charge
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  Speaker 7: of maintaining it. And if there's not being the proper
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  Speaker 7: inspections and cleaning done, then, you know, it's on them.
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  Speaker 7: But I've seen moldy, you know, moldy bathrooms in port
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  Speaker 7: because they're not being cleaned properly. So I just, you know,
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  Speaker 7: but the off-tempo 250 days at sea, that's a long time.
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  Speaker 7: So that can wear on your nerves and, you know,
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  Speaker 7: you want to get off, things like that. But they
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  Speaker 7: have parties on the ship. They'll have like a barbecue
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  Speaker 7: up on the flight deck every 30 days. You get
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  Speaker 7: a couple beers. You know, they have ice cream machines.
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  Speaker 7: They have movie theater, gym, you know, internet. And so
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  Speaker 7: these guys set up networks and play games. There's lots
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  Speaker 7: for them to do. Go to college while you're at sea.
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  Speaker 7: They have night classes. So it's not as terrible as
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  Speaker 7: what I think a lot of these news and the
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  Speaker 7: sites I've read on Facebook, it's mostly moms complaining. So
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  Speaker 7: they're hearing what the kids are telling them. And more
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  Speaker 7: than likely, it's a small amount, and it's the kids
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  Speaker 7: that have to have the crust taken off their peanut
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  Speaker 7: butter sandwiches.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about you, but I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how much time you spend at sea. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: once spent seven days at sea on a Royal Caribbean ship,
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  Speaker 2: and it was just excruciating. I mean, the sunburn I
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  Speaker 2: came back with, and I actually gained a little weight.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't wait to get back in port.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 7: Now, if their optumbo is really high, they're flying plates
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  Speaker 7: all the time, that means the whole air wing, which
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  Speaker 7: is about half the ship or more, All the guys
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  Speaker 7: that maintain the planes, that direct them out on the
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  Speaker 7: flight line, that refuel them, that arm them. Because every
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  Speaker 7: time it comes in, they have to take all the
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  Speaker 7: weapons off, all the missiles and bombs. You know, they
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  Speaker 7: don't leave them loaded up all the time. So they're
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  Speaker 7: constantly doing that kind of thing. So those guys are busy.
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  Speaker 7: If they're flying, and I've been out when we were
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  Speaker 7: out in the Mediterranean and in the doing flight ops
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  Speaker 7: almost 24 hours a day. Not quite, but we would
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  Speaker 7: do like maybe..
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  Speaker 2: Well, here's what it says, though, good buddy. Lengthy operations
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  Speaker 2: without maintenance stops cause broken toilets, malfunctioning showers, and unsanitary conditions.
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  Speaker 2: Supply and food constraints. Reports indicate shortage of fresh food,
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  Speaker 2: general supplies, and water. communication problems as well. Hey, 260 days,
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  Speaker 2: maybe that's a little long. Maybe they should have sent
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  Speaker 2: the George Washington out a little bit sooner. Maybe that's
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  Speaker 2: what we should be questioning, why that wasn't there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, why not?
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  Speaker 7: But I'm just saying, the bad reports, there are replenishment
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  Speaker 7: ships with supply ships to bring them fuel, jet fuel,
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  Speaker 7: diesel fuel. They don't need to bring nuclear because they're
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  Speaker 7: all nuclear-powered. But they bring over all the fresh foods.
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  Speaker 4: When we would..
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  Speaker 7: Go to port somewhere, which these guys didn't, there would
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  Speaker 7: be contracted companies on the pier with fresh fruit.
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  Speaker 2: Right, but were you out to sea 260 days?
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  Speaker 7: No, the longest I did was maybe 180.
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  Speaker 2: Right, so it's a whole different scenario.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, but all this, they have repair shops for cleaning
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  Speaker 7: the toilets, fixing things. There may have been some parts
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  Speaker 7: and things they didn't have on hand to fix every toilet,
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  Speaker 7: every shower. But the material condition of the shell, I'm sure,
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  Speaker 7: is pretty good because they have inspections by the XO
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  Speaker 7: every single day. He has a different division, a different area.
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  Speaker 4: He inspects.
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  Speaker 7: And if things are broke, he wants to know why
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  Speaker 7: and why they're not fixed. And they follow up on
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  Speaker 7: that daily to keep that mushy sound.
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  Speaker 2: You're not buying it, in other words. You're not buying
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  Speaker 2: what they're selling.
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  Speaker 7: Not completely. Now, I know we didn't have computers. We
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  Speaker 7: didn't set up networks and game and play all these games.
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  Speaker 7: We watched Adult Flex sometimes, or we played board games,
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  Speaker 7: or we watched old movies or cards.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 5: That's what we did.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. You mean you were watching porn?
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  Speaker 8: No.
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  Speaker 7: No, they were just, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I know. Come on. You can tell me.
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  Speaker 4: No, we didn't do that. We weren't allowed.
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  Speaker 7: The division officer wouldn't let us.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Just checking.
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  Speaker 7: We watched movies, and we had a basketball court. We
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  Speaker 7: played sports on board.
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  Speaker 4: We worked out.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure they'll separate fact from fiction when it
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  Speaker 2: gets to port. All right. I've got to get G2 on. G2, hello.
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  Speaker 5: Good evening, Ron.
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  Speaker 4: How are you today? Good.
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  Speaker 2: What do you make of this? Interesting calls about the
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  Speaker 2: Abraham Lincoln.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, very interesting. I love hearing people that have been
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  Speaker 4: aboard vessels come in and comment about this. I haven't
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  Speaker 4: been following this story because the truth is I don't
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  Speaker 4: think any of the media has really got good intentions.
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  Speaker 4: They're either trying to create one narrative or another. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I actually reached out to an admiral and
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  Speaker 4: asked him what's going on, but I haven't followed up
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  Speaker 4: with him yet. So I'll try to get some insights there. But,
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  Speaker 4: you know, this is just impossible for us to properly
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  Speaker 4: analyze from here. If we're hearing these reports through places
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  Speaker 4: like the New York times and Fox news, you just can't,
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  Speaker 4: you can't hear it. You can't get accurate information. So
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  Speaker 4: I have no doubt that being at sea that long
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  Speaker 4: is challenging really hard, but I really can't see into
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  Speaker 4: the conditions on that ship and have much of an
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  Speaker 4: opinion on how the, the sailors are doing. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I don't think we have a Navy that
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  Speaker 4: hates its sailors, and I think they have virtually unlimited
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  Speaker 4: resources because, you know, we spend a trillion dollars a
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  Speaker 4: year on military. If there's not enough money in there
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  Speaker 4: to ship a toilet to the Persian Gulf, then, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we know we're in trouble anyway. Look, we've
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  Speaker 4: shot 1,000 Tomahawk missiles at, say, $ 2. 25 million apiece. The
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  Speaker 4: enemy is shooting at us $ 20, 000 drones. And we're saying, well,
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  Speaker 4: it's going to take us five years to replenish our
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  Speaker 4: missile and our weapons cash. And these guys are like
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  Speaker 4: making drones. We're like, well, gee, we don't know how
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  Speaker 4: to do that. I mean, it's ridiculous the situation that
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  Speaker 4: we've been put in in some ways. But particularly into
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  Speaker 4: the conditions on the ship, I just don't. don't know
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  Speaker 4: what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: Well, like I said to somebody, you know, I've been
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  Speaker 2: at sea numerous times, once five days on a Carnival
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  Speaker 2: cruise line, and it was hell, G2. It was absolute hell.
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  Speaker 4: I did several hours on a canoe in a rainstorm
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  Speaker 4: once on a lake.
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  Speaker 3: Harrowing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Harrowing at harrowing times.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just, I mean, the seas were not
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  Speaker 2: so calm that day. And I didn't have my sea
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  Speaker 2: legs quite on me during my tenure. And then I
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  Speaker 2: strolled up to around a smokestack on a carnival cruise
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  Speaker 2: line as I was walking up. And there were women
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  Speaker 2: up there sunbathing with their tops off.
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  Speaker 4: That must have been traumatizing.
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  Speaker 2: It was very traumatizing. Apparently, that's where they go because
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  Speaker 2: they're from other countries where this is a perfectly normal thing.
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  Speaker 2: But it was shocking to me, G2. Shocking.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I bet it was. And, you know, what's also
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  Speaker 4: shocking is when somebody stumbles out of a casino and
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  Speaker 4: pukes on your shoes. That's terrible. Right. As I understand it,
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  Speaker 4: that's happened on some of these cruise lines, too.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. My time at sea. I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: share it with you. Let's take some calls and then
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  Speaker 2: we'll let you talk with Ron Verbo, G2. You're on
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  Speaker 2: the air.
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  Speaker 5: How are you guys doing?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, geez.
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  Speaker 9: Sorry, G2.
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  Speaker 2: It's Emmanuel.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you know, I have a couple things that I
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  Speaker 5: wanted to talk to you about. But since you got
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  Speaker 5: G2 there, you know, I don't have much time.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, you can talk. Feel free to talk. We
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  Speaker 2: want to hear what you have to say. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: it could be relevant.
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  Speaker 5: Well, first of all, this is not why I wanted
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  Speaker 5: to call you. But, you know, G2, you can check
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  Speaker 5: this out, right? You know, because I've checked into it. Now,
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  Speaker 5: Sitcom has said that there was a destroyer that went
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  Speaker 5: four days without power and water. Sitcom has said that.
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  Speaker 5: And also, too, the reason about the supply problem is
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  Speaker 5: the Iranians, when they're bombing those bases, they were bombing
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  Speaker 5: the supply. So one caller or somebody said, or you
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  Speaker 5: might have said that, They would get resupplied from the ports. Well,
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  Speaker 5: you can't do that over there because, you know, they'll
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  Speaker 5: blow you up. But there's two questions I want to
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  Speaker 5: ask you. The first question, this is to you.
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  Speaker 4: G2, right?
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  Speaker 5: Explain to me, in your opinion, what is the difference
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  Speaker 5: between socialism and fascism?
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  Speaker 4: Well, the spelling, largely, because the truth be told, neither
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  Speaker 4: of those really get implemented in any way that matches
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  Speaker 4: all this theoretical nonsense that's chatted about on college campuses.
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  Speaker 4: What they all turn out to be is simply a totalitarianistic, top-down,
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  Speaker 4: centrally controlled government and economy that's designed more like feudalism,
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  Speaker 4: where There's a population of people who are like royalty.
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  Speaker 4: There's a population who are somewhat like aristocracy. Then you
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  Speaker 4: have the professional-slash-merchant class that keeps the machines running. And
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  Speaker 4: then everybody else is a disposable peasant. And that's kind
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  Speaker 4: of how it works. Like, the Soviet Union wasn't communist.
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  Speaker 4: If it was communist, every apartment would have been the
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  Speaker 4: same size. They weren't. Everybody would have gone to the
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  Speaker 4: same vacation spots. They didn't. Right? They would have had
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  Speaker 4: the same cars. wasn't the case. Some people were driving
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  Speaker 4: in luxury cars, some people were driving in Volgas, and
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  Speaker 4: some people were driving shoes because they didn't have a car.
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  Speaker 4: So it was not a communist society. And if you
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  Speaker 4: spoke out against it, of course, you went into the
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  Speaker 4: basement of Lubyanka prison and they took off your fingernails.
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  Speaker 4: So it was very much totalitarian, not some to each,
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  Speaker 4: from each nonsense, some theoretical garbage bandied about by these
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  Speaker 4: You know, lunatics at Harvard. So, you know, socialism, what
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  Speaker 4: is it? Well, Maduro comes in, or rather Chavez comes
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  Speaker 4: in and promises the people of Venezuela that the government's
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  Speaker 4: going to start taking care of them. Well, it certainly did.
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  Speaker 4: It created a network of gangs. that abused and beat
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  Speaker 4: these people, that anybody that stepped out of line was
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  Speaker 4: attacked by these gangs. Amongst the gangs, there was a hierarchy.
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  Speaker 4: The closer your relationship to the government, the better weapons
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  Speaker 4: you had. The government didn't oppress anybody. They simply used
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  Speaker 4: the gangs. And what did it do? It made everybody
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  Speaker 4: equally poor, except a small group of very privileged people
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  Speaker 4: that were close to power, and then the ring of
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  Speaker 4: people around them that kept the machine working. It's the
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  Speaker 4: same everywhere. I mean, if you want to get into
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  Speaker 4: the socialism and fascism thing. Yeah, go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: You just described Mussolini, and he was a fascist.
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  Speaker 4: Call it what you wish. I mean, I just described Mussolini,
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  Speaker 4: Pol Pot, and Mao. Okay.
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  Speaker 5: And the last one, I'm going to let you go because,
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  Speaker 5: you know, this is me. I've got to go ahead and,
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  Speaker 5: you know, bring it like I always do, right?
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  Speaker 4: That's why we like it.
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  Speaker 5: I heard somebody call earlier today, and I'm getting tired
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  Speaker 5: of hearing this. They're saying, well, they're messing with our culture,
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  Speaker 5: you know. We're America. And I'm sitting there thinking, at
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  Speaker 5: what time in the history of this country has this country...
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  Speaker 5: not been discriminated against somebody, whether it was the Native Americans,
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  Speaker 5: whether it was the doggone Hispanics, whether it was the slaves.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, what's up with that culture? Your turn.
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  Speaker 4: Well, let's take it to a bigger picture, right? At
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  Speaker 4: what time has any culture not been discriminatory? If you
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  Speaker 4: want to see real discrimination, go to China. Go to
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  Speaker 4: Libya and watch them with their open-air slave markets. Go
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  Speaker 4: into the Middle East and watch them trade children.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to pay taxes there, okay?
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  Speaker 4: So go ahead. Well, it's not a tax issue. This
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  Speaker 4: is a cultural issue. So what you have in the
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  Speaker 4: United States is the most tolerant, accepting, open society ever.
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  Speaker 4: That's how the Muslims are coming in and basically taking
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  Speaker 4: over town after town. They're going to then take over
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  Speaker 4: county after county and then state after state. If nothing
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  Speaker 4: is done, we will turn into a nation... that is
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  Speaker 4: controlled in large part by Islam, Islamists, right, without them
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  Speaker 4: ever having to fire a shot, because we're just so tolerant,
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  Speaker 4: we'll lay down for invaders. Right? On the fascism point,
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  Speaker 4: maybe the closest example of actual fascism is the United
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  Speaker 4: States over the last 30.
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  Speaker 6: 40 years.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I've got to go. Thank you. Appreciate it. G2,
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  Speaker 2: Ron Ferb from the Kingdom of Mahoney at 525. It's
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  Speaker 2: 80 degrees, G2 this hour. We've taken calls, and you
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  Speaker 2: are on the air.
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  Speaker 4: Hello.
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  Speaker 9: Good afternoon, Ron and G2.
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  Speaker 6: Hello, Ron.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, go ahead, please.
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  Speaker 9: I was calling, Ronald, to give you an eye, Captain,
• 17:48
  Speaker 9: on one issue, but to question you on another one.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: So what would you like me to do first?
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I always like to get the compliment out of
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 17:57
  Speaker 9: Okay, the compliment is you're spot on every day on
• 18:01
  Speaker 9: what you're saying about the economy. Last night I went
• 18:04
  Speaker 9: out to get my wife gas in her vehicle. I
• 18:07
  Speaker 9: do that for her whenever she needs it.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: What a husband. What a husband.
• 18:11
  Speaker 9: Yeah. How about that? Hey, $ 70 to fill a gas tank. Now,
• 18:18
  Speaker 9: you tell me there's not an affordable. Now, you and I, G2,
• 18:21
  Speaker 9: we're different parts in our lives. It doesn't matter. You're
• 18:24
  Speaker 9: telling me there's not an.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: Affordability issue in this country.
• 18:27
  Speaker 9: If you're watching Fox News, you live in an alternative universe.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Well, if you were listening to Clay and Buck today,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: they're living in an alternative universe. Oh, people have become
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: accustomed to paying for 30 a gallon for gas, and
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: they've just adjusted to it. I'm listening to these guys talk,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: thinking these guys are insane.
• 18:45
  Speaker 9: That's an extra 20 bucks every time I get her gas,
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: and she travels. So think about that. Now, think about
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: the young kids, the families that are going through this.
• 18:54
  Speaker 9: You know, they're just starting out their lives. I see
• 18:57
  Speaker 9: mothers in the grocery store with three, four, five kids,
• 18:59
  Speaker 9: and I think, holy cow, I can't imagine what it
• 19:02
  Speaker 9: costs to feed those kids.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: It is interesting, like when I went to Sam's Club
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: with my wife the other day, and you got that
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: app on your phone so you can just check out.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: You'll be surprised how quick it adds up to $ 250
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: in the blink of an eye.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, four, five, six items, boom.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you're like G2 there in your gunny suit,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: you're actually out. You're hunting pheasant, right, G2? You kill
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: what you eat, right?
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: That's the cost-effective way, Ron. And if you hunt with
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: a knife, then you don't expend ammunition. It's even cheaper. Right.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: You just slit the throat, right? But it's hard to
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: catch the pigeon.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: You've got to be stealthy.
• 19:41
  Speaker 9: It comes out of the shadows like Rambo. It comes
• 19:44
  Speaker 9: out of the shadows like Rambo and kills it and
• 19:46
  Speaker 9: drags it back into the bunker.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Right. Either that or a cliffhanger. a car recently hit
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: it going down the interstate.
• 19:55
  Speaker 9: Again, I got a question for you guys about this.
• 19:58
  Speaker 9: I'm going to ask both of you because I think
• 19:59
  Speaker 9: I remember you guys and myself all disagreeing on this
• 20:03
  Speaker 9: issue many years ago. And I'm not saying nothing about
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: Iran and the U.S., whether this is right or wrong.
• 20:10
  Speaker 9: I agreed with the mission in the beginning, but now
• 20:14
  Speaker 9: after watching the execution and the lack of leadership that
• 20:17
  Speaker 9: I think I'm seeing from Donald Trump, I think he
• 20:20
  Speaker 9: needs to end it quickly. And if that means call
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: the Strait of Hormuz, the Strait of America, and come home,
• 20:27
  Speaker 9: so be it.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: G2, comment, please.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Tying the affordability issue, this inflation issue, to the war
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: is extremely... short-sighted or, I guess, lacks the memory of
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: everything we've talked about over the last four or five years.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: So you've had 30% inflation since 2019 to now. Trillions
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: and trillions and trillions of dollars printed by the government.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Inflationary regulations put in that were so harsh on the
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: energy side that the Democrats had to drain 244 million
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: barrels out of the Strategic Patrolling Reserve to try to
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: preserve their position heading into the 22 and 24 elections. Right?
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: It was that bad. So, and of course, that leaves
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: us with a Strategic Patrolling Reserve depleted just when we
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: need it. So you've got a lot of issues. Now,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: if you look at what Trump's impact on inflation was
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: when he came into office last Just without having Congress
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: stop spending money, without having the Fed quit printing, he
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: drove it down to the lowest point I saw was 0.68%,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: which is incredible given the amount of printing going on.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: So he drove it down. Right now it's about 2.3%.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Now the problem is the dramatic impact of people hitting
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: that gas pump every day is almost the same as
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: if we had, say, a war bill that we paid
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: every Friday night for.
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: The last 30 years.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: If we had a war bill to pay... And we're
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: 20 years in the works, right? So we've got to
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: keep this stuff straight. The impact of inflation was driven
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: by massive amounts of government spending and theft. $ 40 trillion gone.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: No one can tell us where it went. It was
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: caused by regulatory pressures. Somebody mentioned the HVAC thing. I
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: was driving and I was listening the other day. You know,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: the fact that you can't, that they have..
• 22:24
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• 22:28
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  Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. All right, back.
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  Speaker 2: To it with G2 on NewsRadio 570 WKBN and to
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  Speaker 2: the conservative.
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  Speaker 4: But..
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I'll say this, G2. You're going to lose the arguments
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: with the American public because you're at the midterms. Trump's
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: going to own all of this stuff.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: That's a different issue. That's a different issue.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Well, hang on a second.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Just for this crowd, these aren't normal people, your listeners.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: These are really well-informed people. So when you ask about
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: the impact on polling and elections, that's a different question.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: But that's the reality that you have to deal with
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: because that's going to determine where we go.
• 24:51
  Speaker 9: The reality is..
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: So you just had a news report that came on
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: during the break that said, was it 480 people arrested
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: in a fentanyl trafficking ring? We lost 400,000 Americans over
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: four years because we had a party in control that
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: threw down the gates and handed control of the border
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: to the cartels. We spent hours talking about it, analyzing it,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: breaking down the data.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: So I don't want to go back and talk to her.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Now they're actually arresting these people.
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: And I heard somebody today say their life isn't better
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: because Trump's an op.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Ted.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: That might have been you.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: I don't remember. But I listened to yesterday's show while
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: I was driving today. Can you believe that anybody's life
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: isn't better when we've stopped 400,000 people a year from
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: dying from a poison that was brought here by the
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: Chinese Communist Party with the assistance of the Democrat Party
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: and the drug cartels? He went right after that. So
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying is rather than just complain about everything
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: and pretend nothing is happening, we should be breaking this
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: down into its components so we could be thinking more
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: clearly and not just emotionally.
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: What I said yesterday was that Trump did not live
• 26:01
  Speaker 9: up to any of his campaign statements as far as
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: the economy.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: And I don't think that's emotional.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I didn't hear that statement. I just heard he didn't
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: live up to anything. Okay, so I may have misheard.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: I may have misheard.
• 26:13
  Speaker 9: Economically, I said he's not. Yeah, it's no big deal.
• 26:16
  Speaker 9: I just wanted to reiterate.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: I agree with what you said. All right, but hold on.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: But he drove inflation down. He drove inflation down to 0.68%
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: at one point without any help from Congress. In fact,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: the Congress is fighting him. Today we're at 2.30.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: We're at 3.4.
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: You're looking at core, I'm guessing, when you quote that.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: No, I'm looking at all in. I'm looking at 10
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: million data points.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Hang on a second, Ted. Hang on a second. Just
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: hang on. G2, if you're going to sit here and
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: try to tell people that after two years, well, you've
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: got to think about this and you've got to think
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: about that, they're not. I don't know what to tell you.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: With all due respect, you're going back to the..
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: You're not hearing me. You're not hearing me.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: You're going back to the stuff..
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: These are the facts. If you want to talk about
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: the impact on the election, that's a separate thing.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: But that's all that matters.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: That the facts aren't facts is irrational.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: No, that's all that matters is the impact on the
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: agenda and the election, because he will be wiped out
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: if they take control at the midterms.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: If you want to understand how you're being manipulated, you
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: have to understand both the facts and the zeitgeist.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not being manipulated when I bitch about $ 4. 30 a
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: gallon gasoline.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: I understand why that's important to you. You spend a
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: lot of money on gasoline. I don't like it.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: But you can say we had inflation under Biden.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: To pretend that nothing good has happened or that we
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: haven't had an incredibly successful energy policy implemented. That's just silly. Now,
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: the impact of this war, taking us up to within
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: a dollar of Biden's highest gas price. I know what
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: you're saying. It's still, I don't know, 25% less than
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: the 2022 peak. But I wasn't happy about that either.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Even though it was maybe a dollar higher, maybe more now.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know where this comes from either. I wasn't
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: paying a lot more.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: I don't want to go back there. Now, the fact
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: of the matter is, All of the work done to
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: offset the closure of the Strait of Hormuz has had
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: a massive impact, and the drawdown of these reserves in
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: China and Japan and the United States have had a
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: massive impact. As those reserves play out, if this strait
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: doesn't get opened... and you have to wait for more
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: pipelines to get built, we could be looking at $ 5 gas.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: We could come back to the price that we had
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: under Biden, for God's sake.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I don't remember paying $ 5 under Biden in Ohio.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: The amount that Trump has taken from the Petroleum Reserve.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: And to pretend it's more doesn't make it right. They
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: drew down three times the amount out of our Petroleum
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Reserve to preserve their electoral opportunity. We talked about it
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: every day on this program. All right, so now we
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: are where we are. You've got a war that I
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: don't think should have been started. I understand why it happened.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: We had to do what we were told to do.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: We were ordered to do it by those who get
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: to make orders, who have control of Congress. I understand.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: We don't have representation in Congress, but India does. The
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: globalists do. The multinationals do. The beef processors do. And
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Israel controls the whole shoot and match, just as, I
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: don't know, Barry Goldwater. Go back and look at his
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: 1988 statement. So when they say you're going to war,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: we've resisted for four decades. Trump said no in his
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: first term. Now they got him to flip the switch.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: We're in.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: So the question is, what do we do about it?
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: We could easily be looking at $ 130 a barrel oil again,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: just as we had a few years ago before they
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: drained the reserve. We could be looking at that. This
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: thing could get really rough. I'm just saying we should
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: probably look at it intelligently and not emotionally. so that
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: we understand what's happening, we understand the fixes. There were
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: people saying all the oil that didn't ship had to
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: be reproduced or sort of replaced in order to get
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: the markets back. That's just stupid. They knew it was
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: stupid when they said it. It's going to take 30
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: to 45 days after production gets up and running, assuming
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: the infrastructure isn't destroyed, to get the market back on track, right?
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: That's what it's going to take. Now, you take this
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: war to the next level, and you start taking out
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: water and energy infrastructure, now we're looking at a totally
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: different game plan, and we don't know if that's going
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: to happen. Israel's pushing for nukes. I understand. I don't
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: think they're going to get it. I don't think they're
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: going to get ground forces. Despite their incredible leverage, I
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: just don't think they have the ability to push Trump,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: whatever they're offering and threatening him with, to get him
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: to go to ground forces. He knows that's the end.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: He knows what that means. So I think we have
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: to wait and see what happens. But to just pretend
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: that nothing's been done on the economy is ridiculous. The
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: regulatory burden that was removed in one ruling took about
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: a $ 1. 2 trillion burden off this economy. That was one
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: of the biggest impacts reducing inflation during Trump's second term.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: So folks, I want everyone out there to know that.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: According to you, they're all thinking emotional when they're bitching
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: about gas prices and what they're paying for everything else.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: That isn't emotional to me. That is reality.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: When they say that this all started on February 28th
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: because of the war in Iran, that's simply not true.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: It sure made it a lot worse now, didn't it?
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: No.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: No, we went from 250 a gallon. We went from
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: 250 a.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: Gallon a shell up the road to 430 a gallon.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Gas is one of the 10 million inputs.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one important one. We are a petroleum-based economy. Your
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: defense is to say..
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: If you think that the war in Iran caused our
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: inflation that took six years to create, if that all
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: happens since February 28th, then you're not thinking rationally. You're
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: thinking emotionally.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I'm saying it certainly added on to it and continues to.
• 32:09
  Speaker 9: I agree a lot more with G2 than I disagree.
• 32:12
  Speaker 9: Maybe I should preface my statement. As I said, I
• 32:16
  Speaker 9: agree with you, G2.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: But you know what?
• 32:18
  Speaker 9: The average voter doesn't think like us.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: And that's what's scary.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Listen to yourselves. Listen to both of you. No, hang
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: on a second. Listen to the two of you talk.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Listen to you.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: And here lies the problem. You've got the propaganda machine
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: saying Trump caused all these price increases, when in fact
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: it's obviously silly to say so.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: You both sound like Democrats.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Joe Mainstreet just looks at that gas pump and says,
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: I hate Trump. They don't remember the price in June
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: of 2022. They don't know anything. And then they turn
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: on NPR, and NPR tells them, well, the demon god
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: once again did something bad.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: And they just fall for it.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: This is insanity.
• 32:54
  Speaker 9: Let me interject this, because I agree with both of you.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Well, let me make something clear. I just want to
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: make it clear. I don't agree with any of this.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: But these are all facts, Ron.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: No, if you want to talk about the impact on
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: the midterm, that's a different thing. You're accusing people.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: There's no question that people are buying into this idea
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: that somehow inflation just got invented on February 28th.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: It's gotten worse.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: It's childlike, it's idiotic, but that's what they think.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Has it gotten worse?
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: Not significantly.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 33:29
  Speaker 9: Only at the fuel pump.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Well, at the grocery store and the fuel pump.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: We've got rent going down at Atlanta. You realize, now
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: this is not a good fact, okay? If you think
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: I'm saying the economy's in great shape, that's not accurate.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: I'm just arguing that this emotional diatribe about inflation is wrong.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: And I'm arguing that you're making the same argument that
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: they made under Biden with the emotional crap, and it
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: didn't work for them, and it's not going to work
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: for the Republicans. And you want to say that all
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: the people who say it's the economy's stupid are voting emotional.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: And I'm here to tell you that you are misreading
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: people and misreading the economy. You are trying to spin
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: something into something more positive when it's a big negative.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: And it is an absolute big negative.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Here's the problem, Ron. I'm not spitting anything. I'm telling
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: you that inflation at one point was 9%. Now it's 2.3%.
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: All right?
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: So if we could just stop whining about this. The
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: gas price is a huge emotional and real financial problem.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me how cheap everything is. Tell all of our
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: listeners how lucky they are at the grocery store, how
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: lucky they are with their car insurance, and how everything
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: is good.
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  Speaker 4: I never once said that, Ron. That's not at all
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: But you're trying to imply under Trump everything's gotten less
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: expensive or better. None of this is his fault. The
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: war didn't create any problems. If we were an energy-based
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: economy under Biden, where you were saying and everyone was
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: saying the price of a barrel of oil and gas
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: affects everything because it's an oil-based economy, all of a
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: sudden now under Trump, that isn't the case.
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  Speaker 4: No, that's not what I'm saying. You're not hearing me.
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  Speaker 4: So this energy component is why we've gone from 0.68
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: to 2.30. I tell you.
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  Speaker 2: What, we've wasted enough time on this. I'm going to
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: take more calls. This is ridiculous. I do not agree
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: with this, but I want to take more calls. You
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: are doing the same thing the Democrats did. I said
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: this last time. And you can go ahead and do that.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: You're trying to tell everybody. Yeah, you're trying to tell
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: everybody it's emotional. It's better off than you think. And
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: it's a disaster.
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  Speaker 4: No.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: The war is a disaster. The economy is a disaster.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: And the stock market is way down.
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  Speaker 4: What I'm saying is we have to analyze what's driven
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: these costs if we want to understand it. And then
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: we can look at what the impact on the public is.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: The public is just going to say gas is higher.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: I'm angry. Right. And I mean, they're not going to vote,
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: which I think is going to be a big problem.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Or some of them might say, I'm going to vote
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: for the socialists, which is stupid, but they might do it.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: And I think you would agree it's stupid. It's emotional.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: It's dumb. But they might do it because the socialists
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: are saying, hey, just like Chavez said, I got a
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: better way, baby. The state's going to take care of you.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: And we're only talking about gas. We're not talking about
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: the fact that Lincoln, Atlanta, and Miami are lower.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I don't live in Atlanta. I live in Ohio. And
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about where I live and what's going on
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: where I live. All right? I'm not talking about what
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: the price of a gallon of gas was in California.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here and say, hey, when
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: gas was $ 5. 16 or $ 5 when Biden was president, I
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: should be rejoicing because it's 4.30 now. That is a
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: bullcrap argument.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that either.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: That is stupidity. You want to talk emotional stupidity? That's stupidity.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Because I'm saying to you, gas was $ 2. 50 a gallon.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: And the Democrats drew down the Strategic Patrol Reserve to reserve.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Trump's drawn down the Strategic Oil Reserve, too.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: And we fell for it.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Trump is drawing it down. He is drawing it down, too.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: He's drawn down about one third of what the Democrats
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: pulled for no strategic reason at all.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Well, I tell you what, why is this polling in
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: a crapper? Well, I don't understand. Are all of these
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: people out there just so emotional that they don't realize
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: how good they got it?
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: No, but you're just obsessing on this one fact, okay?
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: The economy is not one fact. The economy is what
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: affects everybody. No, you're not talking about the economy.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: You're talking about inflation and gas prices.
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: You're damn right.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: That's all you're talking about. And food prices and insurance
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: and car prices and home prices and all of it.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: And is it your position that inflation happened since February 28th?
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: That's it?
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: No, I'll give you specifically my position. Inflation did happen. No,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: you asked my position. I will give you my position.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: You want my position? Here it is. Inflation did happen
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: under Joe Biden and went up. That's my point. No,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: I'm not done. But under Trump, when he first started,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: inflation was coming down. But guess what? Because of the war,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: it's gone right back up. So what you're on top
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: of what you already got, for God's sakes, they elected
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: him to bring it down. Why was he elected to
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: secure the border and fix the economy? He's not doing that.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: The inflation he's adding is on top of this. That's
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: the problem. Don't you get it? You want to try
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: to tell everyone out there.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: You're not hearing me. Look, I'm telling you.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: We'll take more calls.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: I believe prices have gone down. We've gone to deflation.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I think you're trying.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: We're near deflation.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: I think you're.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: Pretend that this all happened since February 28th.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not pretending that. That's bull crap words. I am
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: not pretending that. I'm saying this guy had it going
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: down and this war has brought it back up. We
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: are in an oil-based economy and the economy sucks right now.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: And he owns it because, guess what? He's been in
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: office for two years and it's getting worse, not better.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: And the one question is, why does the Fed have
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: a 2% inflation target, not zero?
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: All right, well, we're just going around in circles. You're
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: on the air. Hello, caller. You're on the air.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: Hello. Yeah, you hear me?
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, go ahead, please.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: Hey, this is Eula. I called you around January or something,
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: told you I was going to run for governor. So
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: I still am, okay? I'm going to get my name
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: on the ballot on the right end.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't care. I'm not talking about it. You're
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: on the air.
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: Hello?
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: Hello?
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, go ahead.
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: Okay, I'd like to say that Jesse Kelly has it
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: from reliable sources that there are 107 million illegal oil
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: use in the country. One-third of the population is illegal.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, thanks. You're on the air.
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, hi. You guys were talking about the Strategic Oil
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: Preserve for the last few days. There's one thing you
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: guys haven't mentioned or haven't heard First of all, you're right,
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: there's a lot of competition for a lot of oil products.
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: But the problem with the oil refineries is they're 96%
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: or 97% of capacity, which means that they don't have
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: any wiggle room to make any products or really to
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: adjust their production. Second of all, there's no reasonable protocol
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: for replenishing the strategic oil preserves. The Secretary of Energy,
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: I looked into this, he has to give a request.
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: like a requisition to Congress.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Stand by. Hold that thought. Hold that thought. I'll hook
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: you up with G2. Back with G2 and more after this.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Stay tuned.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: Hi there.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: This is Dan Rivers. WKBN. All the excitement's here with G2. And, caller,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: we've got to make it quick so I can get
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: these calls on.
• 41:12
  Speaker 8: Go ahead.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Quick points.
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: Okay, so the Secretary of Energy... has to send a requisition,
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: a purchase requisition to Congress. I forgot to look up
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: to see, you know, what committee it goes to. But
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: Congress has to approve the appropriation so that the Secretary
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: of Energy can't say, we're down 300 million barrels, and
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: this is the plan for it like you would in
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: the business, where inventory would tell purchasing what it needs,
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: purchasing would order it, and it would come in. We've
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: had 18 and a half million. 18.5 million barrels of
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: oil a day, we could easily purchase 3 or 4
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: million barrels a day and replenish the strategic oil preserves.
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: That's not being done.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, because they're using the oil reserve to maintain
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: market stability. That's why it's being drawn down as it
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: was designed to be during a time of war. Whether
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: you like the war or not, that's the purpose of
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: the reserve. War or significant economic conflict like the energy
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: crisis in the 70s, Before Trump began drawing, he added
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: 20 million barrels, and then he took it out and
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: ended up with a net. I think he's at a
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: net of 84 last time I checked, something like that.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: I'll look it up. But that's where it is, whereas
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: the Democrats just drew it down straight through in order
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: to put more supply into the market to drive down prices.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: And it worked. It drew down prices, and it helped
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: them a little bit in the election. So what you're
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: saying is correct, but when the market changes, when the
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: war is resolved, whatever, When the United States has the
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: ability to begin replenishing the reserve, as long as the
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: infrastructure is preserved, meaning I don't think they could take
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: a lot more out. I think we're getting kind of
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: to tank bottom. But as long as that infrastructure is preserved,
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: they could go buy more and refill the preserve. They'll
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: do it likely over a long time.
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: But the Secretary of Energy needs to have the power
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: to actually go to oil companies and make the purchase himself.
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: He shouldn't have to rely on Congress because Congress is
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: actively fighting Trump actively fighting this war and just actively
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: fighting Republicans. Even the Republicans themselves don't want to appear
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: to be helping Trump.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: This is, this is the whole, this is what it's,
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: it's all messed up. And, and, That's right. And now
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: you're going back to the comments we made in January
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: 2025 when they first started saying, hey, maybe Congress isn't
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: going to implement the America First agenda. We said this
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: is the greatest attack they can make on the Republican Party,
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: their own party, on Republican voters, their own voters, and
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: on the Democrats and independents who voted for the America
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: First agenda because they knew what the Democrat Party had
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: done when they put Biden in the White House. So
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: we've had this treason being done by Congress since January 25,
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: and you're concerned that they might block replenishment of the
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: strategic oil reserve? That's a risk, I suppose, at the
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: time that it gets there. But the truth is, right now,
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: the issue is just solve this war, get these markets stabilized,
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: and get it done before we see $ 130, $ 140 barrel
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: oil or higher.
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: That's the key.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: One last comment.
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: It occurred to me a couple days ago while talking
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: to my wife that this might be Trump's attempt to
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: smash OPEC.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: To reduce OPEC... OPEC's already really kind of smashed because
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: Saudi stepped away and UAE stepped away, and they did
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: that so they could increase production. If we could get
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: this straight open again, it would work. And so we
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: have to really consider very hard what is the next approach.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: How do we move forward? There's the simply declare victory
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: and walk away. I think there's some serious problems with that.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: There is the continue this process the way we are.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: There's some upside and downside to that. You know, Iran
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: is under tremendous economic stress right now. That's putting a
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: lot of pressure on them.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: We're out of time. We're out of time. The Guardians
• 45:06
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• 45:10
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