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S02Ep09 - Dimitri: His Legacy, Brotherhood, and the Standard · The Bull Brotherhood

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go. connections good evening ladies welcome to
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another exhilarating episode bull brotherhood
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podcast i'm the man the morgan aka the sigma
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male the long self one third of the podcast family
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with the loveless siren of the podcast what's
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up boo hey how are you doing always wonderful
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and of course If you're himself, brother from
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another mother, a .k .a. the number one brother
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from another mother, my boy Socrates. What's
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good, Unc? What's good? We ready to do this thing,
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man. I'm sure I am. I got a little damn extra
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pump and shit. Got some food in me. Brother's
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home. So I'm ready to talk a little bit. You
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know what I'm saying? Ladies and gentlemen, we
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have. I'm going to call him. Hell, he's down
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there because he's been around so long. And it's
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just a pleasure to have this coming out of the
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state of Florida. You know him, the swath, the
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sexy Dimitri. Hey, boy. Hey, good evening, good
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evening, man. Long time, my brother. Exactly,
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exactly. Glad to have you back, man. Thank you,
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my friend. Thank you. Thank you. It's been a
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minute. Exactly. Exactly. That's it. Ladies and
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gentlemen, we got along with myself, Siren, Socrates.
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We just set it up. We really are. But as I said
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earlier, I got like one question. There's one
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topic that really is. This has been stemming
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on my mind for quite some time, the age that
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I am, and really evolving like I have. And I
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know, Socrates, you in the 50s, you know, D,
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you in the 50s. And that word is legacy, you
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know, legacy. What have we learned? And what
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have we, the impact, what's the impact that we
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made on, here again, this lifestyle? What's the
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impact that we made on the different bulls, the
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different brothers over time? What's the impact
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on couples, you know? And I just want to chop
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it up about that tonight, you know, if anybody
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doesn't mind. Oh, I have no problem with that.
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Good deal. Good deal. And I know, I know I can
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like, it's almost like I got, I can see cyber
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tease right now through the, you know, through
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the damn phone and shit. Like, Oh shit. I got,
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I know I got a million for this shit. Cause I
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was going to say that. Oh yeah. That was dope.
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I didn't know. I'm already writing the questions
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in my head. I got about four, five already. You
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know, here again, though, I mean, what's, what's
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our, what's, and I started off like, like, what's,
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what's my, like, what's my impact? What have
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I, what have I brought to the table in, in the,
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in the, all of the years that I have been, um,
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I mean, boy, I've been doing this a long time,
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y 'all, a long time. And I've been, well, I was
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just, you know, laying it down and, and, and,
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Putting notches under the belt. And over the
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years, I evolved into, what do I call it? I wasn't
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what I am now, but it was more of a, still a
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bull, but I was more of a, I would say a myth.
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You know, ones were coming up, wanting to talk
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to me, meet me, what I'm all about. And then
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I've turned now to, what do you call it, nephew?
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If you're the perpetual student, what am I? I
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don't claim to know everything, but I know a
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lot. What would you call that? Wise counsel.
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Wise sage. A wise counsel. A wise counsel. I
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like that. I like that. I like that. And here
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again, man, that's what if we, what if all of
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us in the, in the, what if we. You know, what
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impact have we made? And D, I'm going to ask
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you, because you've been in it, you've been in
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it as long as I have, dog. You got more stories
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than, probably more stories than I do. Seriously,
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shit. What impact have you, have you, or do you
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think you've made in this, in this lifestyle
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over the years, like from being a bull? to getting
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into the splash scene, the event scene, to making
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an impact on couples' lives, et cetera. That's
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a draw. So the very first thing I had to learn,
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because I'm a teacher in self -education, and
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I would put that into action. The very first
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thing I taught myself was self -discipline and
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self -respect. And that stems from, I remember
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when I came back stateside and I started welcoming,
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befriending brothers, befriending people. Instead
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of just doing the same, I felt comfortable to
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start going to parties. What I wasn't doing was
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following directions. Because I'm such a logical
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person within my own comfort that got into this
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lifestyle, this hot wife bubble. The people before
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me, they used to always push on me, hey, you
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have to go and fuck that hot wife. She's a hot
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wife and you're the new guy. And that just didn't
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sit right with me. First, nobody can tell me.
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Who I'm going to fuck, when I'm going to fuck,
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how I'm going to fuck them. If you can't take
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the time to sit down and get to know my name,
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my comfort, or my wall of comfort, I'm not fucking
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with it. I'm afraid to express that. And, brother,
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trust me, I caught myself arguing with the brothers
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because I'm like, you guys don't have no principle.
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You can't call a bull. When you come into this
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lifestyle bubble that's a hot white setting and
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you're still sitting in the backseat, what the
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fuck? You guys are supposed to be standing up
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and leading. And now I see that you guys are...
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And you guys are... It was such... It was so
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fucking ass back. Sorry for cursing, but you
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know... You talk about dirty nasty shit on here.
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Curse. Curse, god damn it. For real. For real,
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dude. When I came in, the... the paradigm and
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the dynamic fucked up. I saw where it was like,
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the hot wife was leading, the cut was behind
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the hot wife and the bull was, and that shit
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just didn't sit well with me. So that told me
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who was giving the orders and the orders in.
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And I'm like, okay, so this bull quote, quote,
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tool. So you're not instilling no discipline,
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no dominance, no instructions, no nothing. You're
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a dick. That didn't sit well with me. So you're
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disrespectful. I realize some of the people that
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was before me were a number of fucking idiots.
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They had to push. And this is why I like that
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it's so different about you guys compared to
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the guys back then. The guys back then, they
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felt, oh, since I'm older or I created this,
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I know more, so therefore you should do as follow.
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No. No. That's why I always start off here saying,
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hey, I don't know. Yes, my experiences is lengthy,
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but yet I'm still learning. And the moment I
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feel like I know it all, biggest fucking idiot
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in the fucking room. So. I put that discipline
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on myself to keep learning. And what I learned
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based on facts in pretty much my reading, I try
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to put it before these guys to let them know,
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like, look, guys, you guys are doing it a different
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way. Great way if you want to learn to do this
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in the long term. If you don't, you're going
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to find yourself out the door or you're going
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to find yourself replaced. So my legacy came
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based off. self -discipline, self -taught, self
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-education, and then I pushed that on the people
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that wanted to learn and wanted to be in this
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long -term. And it's all about that. And I can
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tell you like this, the ones that didn't want
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to learn or that felt like they didn't know everything,
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you probably never heard of them. Yeah. They
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got out. I was about to just ask, how long did
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it take you, and I know it didn't take long,
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before one started like, putting you out there
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like okay this guy really really he's something
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different um he just doesn't come in here and
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and just is silent this dude comes in here and
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he fucking takes over uh you need you know what
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i'm saying you need to meet him all right not
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only does he deliver dick but he not only does
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he fuck you but he mind fucks you also all right
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and that's that's a bit that's big right there
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that's You're about to fucking, but you get inside
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the head. You mind fuck. So how long did it take
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before your name got out there? And, of course,
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other couples started, you know, you started
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attracting a lot of couples, but you started
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attracting other bulls also that wanted to be
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like, yo, brother, can I damn, you know, holler
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at you? Can I talk to you? School me. How long
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did it take? It took a good, it took probably
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the whole 2010 because I came back December of
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2009. And once I retired officially in 2010,
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it was off to the races. But I can say this without
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naming names. My very first party, it didn't
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end well. It didn't end a fucking fight. Now,
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let me back up. I didn't start it. You know,
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I walked in as a lone wolf. I walked in with
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respect. You know, I paid the entity. And you
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know how it goes. The new toy walking, all the
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familiar women, they want that new toy. So the
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guys kind of hated on that. But a few of them
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was cool, and one guy wanted me to meet the host.
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And I said, okay, no problem. But so he started
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saying, hey, you want to be one of his guys?
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And I was like, nah. I'm cool. I just want to
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enjoy the party. And he came back at me, well,
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what's your problem? You think you're too good?
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I'm like, no, man, look, I just want to enjoy
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the party like I paid. And so finally, he told
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me I got to get the fuck out. So I'm like, oh,
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aggressive. Anger. And I see him walking around
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the party telling other guys, telling other guys.
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Now, I'm fresh out of the military, so, you know,
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the anxiety is up. You know, you read the red
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flags. So I backed myself in the corner and everybody
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that came near me, I dropped them. I have a scar
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on my right hand where I was stabbed at. And
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I actually had a glove on his hand, like a gauze.
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And I ended up hitting the guy in the mouth and
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broke his tooth off in my hand. It caused one
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of the ladies in the party, she ended up being
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a nurse, and she took me to the hospital because
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I caught meningitis in the hand. And she was
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like, hey, how about I introduce you to these
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other guys? Because apparently these guys are
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not your type to be around. And so she introduced
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me to a whole other person. Oh, yeah. well i
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will say this party was ratchet but you know
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i'm just getting out there you know i'm trying
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to meet new people you know i'm back home in
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tampa and so she introduced me to this whole
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new different crowd and i'm like oh okay this
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is this is pretty good right here i like this
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and the host he was so cool he said hey man can
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i have a talk with you i said yeah i sit down
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he said i heard about you So don't come in here
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with that bullshit. The ladies, like the bad
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boys, are like, ooh, bring him to me, please.
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He said, don't come in here with that bullshit,
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brother. He gave me a hug. His wife gave me a
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hug. They fed me. I got to the pool, and from
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the pool to the bedroom, and it was on. So I
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said my second party, which was like another
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month. maybe six weeks after that incident you
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know i met these cool couples um and that was
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like a big hit like i made my it made me kind
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of popular within the tampa area so um but it
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really took off i went to a party in orlando
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and a very very well respected brother uh in
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the lifestyle community he saw me And he just
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sat back and checked me out throughout the whole
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party because you know how people see something
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different within you while you're moving around.
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And I was like such a respectful guy being here
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at this party, and he reached out to other people
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to find me. And I was just home chilling, and
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these women was calling me, hey, such and such
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want to meet you. He wants to talk to you. And
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I'm like, well, who the fuck is he? And they
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was like, well, he's the guy. He's the guy. Like,
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okay, if you say I'm the guy that everybody,
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like, fucks with, he was that guy before me.
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So I met him, and we talked a lot, and we became
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great friends. We became like brothers. You know,
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I learned a lot from him. I learned a lot what
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not to do from him. And it was all to the races
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from there. Now, I can honestly say we don't
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have a friendship or relationship. of a brotherhood
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no more, but I still give him that acknowledgement
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of putting me to the next level with his circle
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and his brand. So you did have a good mentor?
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Oh, yes, yes, yes. I will say he was a good mentor
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as well as a brother. Yeah. Yeah, he was. It
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got to that point where we just started disagreeing
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a lot, and we just part ways. So can I jump on
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that word, brother, or I know you have questions
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you want to ask. Go ahead, brother. Go ahead,
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brother. Go ahead. Go ahead. So, yeah. Go right
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ahead. One of the biggest impacts that Demetrius
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had on my life is the whole brotherhood aspect.
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So I give credit where credit is due. The name
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itself and the concept was from Michael C. And
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here's the two things, though, that we're all
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part of fraternity. I'm just part of two of them.
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So I am a Prince Hall Mason. I love that fraternity.
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We're not a secret society. We're a society of
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secrets. We hold people's secrets. And you can
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learn all that stuff now. It's online now. There's
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nothing secretive. But all three of us are part
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of a very important fraternity called Serving
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Our Country. When, you know, me and him, we all
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know this. When I served with the guy that I
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was with, I was in the Navy. I was construction
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battalion. Hoorah. Go Navy. And I only had one
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combat situation. And I was next to a racist
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ass white dude from Texas who was Confederate
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and everything. But me and him together, we were
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brothers. Like you say, there's nothing about
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race. Because I'm the, even though, not even
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though. My wife's white, but my pride is my black
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history. I wear an Egyptian sleeve. I love my
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people. I love our history. I love where we come
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from. What they teach you in high school, y 'all,
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is like teaching five minutes of 5 ,000 years
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of our history. I love it. But what I know is
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this. It ain't about color. But all three of
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us are African American. However, The brotherhood
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that we have when you know you're in a battle
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situation and that man next to you matters, and
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then the brotherhood that people in our squad
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has taught me about, standing up for people,
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even risking your reputation and your career
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for what we believe in, this man taught me how
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important that is. I use the N -word a lot. I
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have a philosophy about it. I'm actually going
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to talk about it and why I do. I say the word
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nigga all the time. I think it differently. I'm
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that age of this first generation that really
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started turning it around and making it a positive
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thing. But he says brother every time. He talks
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about being your brother. And he's got two kind
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of people in his life. Your brother and get the
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fuck out my face. That's the only two people
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Dimitri got. So that's all I want to talk about.
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That's very true. Very true. I mean, you know,
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I've told a story before about, you know, how
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I first saw D and it's very, very seldom people
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that I fuck with any guys i i'm here again i
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am that lone wolf um if you see me with a damn
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bunch of dudes other than the brotherhood you
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better be like okay this has something happened
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to this this ain't brian all right this is a
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clone or some because i just don't know what
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a bunch of guys but but when when that when there's
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one you know when there's an individual that
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just stands out And that's what Dimitri did to
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me. He just stood out. I knew when I walked into
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that hotel in Atlanta and saw him, I was like,
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okay, this guy is something. He's someone that
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I need to know. He's someone that I damn sure
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need to know. And here again, I didn't get a
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chance to meet him other than just saying hello
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and getting that hug. He didn't know me from
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fucking Adam, but it was my brother. That was
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the first thing he said, my brother, my brother.
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So I was like, okay, I already get the aura,
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the vibe and everything right now. I was like,
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it might not be this flash, but I'm going to
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get to know this brother. And man, it's just
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automatic with you, bro. i mean you know we and
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then to come to find out that we have the similar
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backgrounds and and we pretty much was overseas
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at about the same damn time you come home december
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2009 my ass arrives home january 1st 2010. name
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that some i mean you know we we have pro we have
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probably We have probably mixed fluids over there
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with many damn women overseas and didn't fucking
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know it. You know what I'm saying? Especially
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in Germany. Especially in Germany, my brother.
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Especially in Germany. You know? Yeah, I mean,
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ladies and gentlemen, that's just a testament
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to, you know, the type of man that he is. I mean,
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it's just... He is my brother, and I love you.
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Love you to death, brother. I do. I really do.
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Go ahead, brother. I'm fine. I'm sorry. Go ahead.
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I was good. I was good. I was good. Well, you
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know, I was going to say, being in this lifestyle
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community, you know, and I still hold firm to
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this as a black gentleman coming into the lifestyle.
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You have such a tight rope to walk. And I always
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tell guys, I had two strikes against me when
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I walked in. First thing, I was single. And number
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two, I was black. You know, when I walked into
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this, because we had such a negative trope or
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remark put upon us where it was all about, you
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was a novelty, you was a taboo, you was a feeling.
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Oh, yes. They'll fuck you behind closed doors,
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but once you get in the public, they don't want
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to have anything to do with you. They don't want
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to have shit to do with you. Amen. And I only
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experienced that shit in the States. When I went
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overseas, oh, shit. You're a king over there.
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Man, I did not want to come back, you know. And
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I said, when I came back here. I kind of started
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demanding it. Like, okay, if I get that treatment
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over there, why the fuck I can't get it on my
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home, my home ground? Wow, that makes a lot of
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sense. Bro, I put my foot down. I would tell
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couples, like, you know, where the husband, you
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got to go talk to the husband, get to the wife,
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and he'll go, hey, man, I want you to come talk
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to my wife. Man, fuck you and your wife. No,
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you got to approach me better than that. I was
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just that aggressive, and I wasn't afraid to
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speak that and voice it. You know, and just out
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of the face. Like, no, you're going to respect
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me. I'm going to give it back, but you got to
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give it back to me as well. I demand that shit.
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And if they can't, they go, oh, well, my wife
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is hot. You have to follow these little directions
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or whatever. Again, get the fuck out of my face.
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You and your wife. You go fuck your wife. They
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can't. That's why they need you. It comes down
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to she may be the package, but you are the gift.
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We are the gift. The bull is the gift. Always
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has been, always will be. Ain't shit going to
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change about that. And you damn right, D, you
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can't come at me any kind of damn way. You cannot.
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I don't give a fuck if she damn looks like a
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fucking supermodel and shit. Don't come at me
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twisted. Don't come at me twisted. She is a package.
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She's a package deal. But we are the gifts. We
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are the gifts. That's what a true bull is. A
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true bull is a gift. And you're absolutely right,
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Siren. He better come correct because he can't
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deliver dick right any damn way. So that's why
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you're calling on us. That's why you're calling
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on us. Well, and can I say something about the
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gift thing? Is that, too, it's not just the gift
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of what you bring to that couple and to that
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woman physically. It's the whole package of,
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you know, mentally and emotionally, too. So,
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you know, just for anyone who's listening, who's
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like, oh, they just think they're the best thing
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ever. Yes, they are because they've honed their
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craft and they've worked on it. And that's why
27:00
they can proudly say they are the gift, because
27:02
it's not just the physicalities that they bring.
27:05
It's the mental and emotional parts that they
27:08
bring to that couple and to that woman as well.
27:10
Yeah. Let me speak on that. Thank you. Thank
27:13
you for that clarity. You're welcome. Go ahead,
27:18
nephew. Thank you, sir. One thing about all of
27:22
these guys that frustrated me in the beginning
27:24
is their level of humility. You know, everybody
27:28
in my squad, well, you know, there's too many
27:29
variables, you know. You know, everybody, well,
27:33
I'm still learning. I know I've learned a lot.
27:36
I'm still learning, you know. Other people, hey,
27:39
man, I make mistakes. I've had years. All of
27:43
this wisdom is years and years and years of,
27:45
you know. pain and suffering and mistakes. And
27:49
everybody that I hang out with now, including
27:51
Dimitri, he leads this, they're humble. Why?
27:56
Because you don't get where he's at by being
27:59
arrogant and thinking you're the shit and can't
28:01
nobody tell you nothing. Like I love rap, but
28:03
that's one of the things that in my culture and
28:06
hip hop that I can't stand. Oh, I made this,
28:09
can't nobody tell me nothing. Well, now you're
28:11
on your downfall, on your way down. Because...
28:15
Guess what? Even Caesar himself, I think it was
28:17
Caesar Augustus, when he was going through the
28:21
streets of Rome and they're praising him and
28:23
singing his name, he paid a guy to walk behind
28:27
him and is whispering in his ear, you're just
28:29
a man. You're just a man. And these gentlemen
28:33
are very, very, yeah. The guys that I call my
28:40
high council, the guys that I go to, for wisdom
28:45
and knowledge because like he said i'm no longer
28:48
the perpetual student i don't that's not the
28:50
moniker anymore i trained a lot of people to
28:52
think that way now i'm teaching y 'all what these
28:55
guys have installed in me what i have gleaned
28:58
from their wisdom and i'm delivering it to you
29:01
because you know these these men understand if
29:05
i'm going to make it to the next level let me
29:07
humble myself i'm just a man i make mistakes
29:10
too i get things wrong You know, my shit does
29:16
stink. You know what I mean? And that's what
29:20
I admire about Dimitri. He's willing to learn.
29:23
You know, the first time I was on a podcast with
29:25
him, he was just marveling at, wow, I'm so surprised
29:28
at how you're willing to open up. Because I was
29:30
telling him I was still in the middle of my insecurities.
29:33
And if it wasn't for Michael C and his whole
29:35
suit thing, which I've turned into a whole philosophy,
29:39
you know, I'd still be there. And he was just
29:42
marveling at how honest that was. And I said,
29:46
wow. I thought, you know, because like I always
29:49
tell you, I hung around gentlemen like this as
29:52
my uncles and older cousins and parents and grandparents.
29:57
But I'm and yes, if you're listening, you know
30:00
who you're talking about. God damn it. I'm saying
30:03
it 10 toes down. You want to call me? Call me.
30:05
But I was around some bitch ass niggas straight
30:09
up. straight up so i i didn't get a i didn't
30:15
i was a lone wolf because i thought i couldn't
30:18
find nobody to hang out with me no i didn't realize
30:21
i had a standard inside and i wasn't as smart
30:24
to say man i ain't gonna fuck with you i it would
30:27
just be confrontational i would just be arguing
30:29
they bullshit and then i got around these gentlemen
30:32
and i said oh this is what my soul's been looking
30:36
for men of integrity Men who I think can say,
30:41
and this is what I'm screaming. I scream to the
30:43
squad all the time. It's about the standard.
30:47
It's about the standard. We need to start standing
30:50
up for the standard. I don't care if, oh, well,
30:53
we don't want to hurt nobody's feelings. I do.
30:55
I'd rather hurt your feelings than you get out
30:57
there and get hurt. You know? So it's like these
31:01
gentlemen here are, I'm always showcasing them
31:05
and talking about them more than anything else.
31:06
I'll keep saying. My decisions are on my own.
31:09
If I do something stupid, don't go back to Michael
31:11
C. and ask him nothing. Don't go back to all
31:14
the boys that I talk about. Don't go back to
31:16
them. Don't go back to Demetrius and say, well,
31:18
you know, he's your mentor. No, come to me. I
31:21
made the dumbass decision, right? But I go to
31:24
them because they're all students. I call myself,
31:27
I used to call myself the perpetual students,
31:29
but they're all willing and we learn from each
31:30
other. We learn from other people's mistakes.
31:34
It's a wise decision to do. And we teach each
31:37
other. And that's something I'm proud of. Well,
31:42
yes. You know, I always tell people, people say,
31:47
man, you're a wise person. I go, no, I'm just
31:49
a smart one. And they look at me all sideways.
31:53
And I go, you want to be the wise person? Learn
31:56
from my mistakes. So now you know what not to
31:59
do. And then you can pass that trait down to
32:02
some people, some more people. I said, but I
32:05
had to learn from my own mistakes because I had
32:08
nobody ahead of me to really instill in me what
32:12
to do and what not to do. I said, the guys that
32:15
brought me in, they brought me in because I was
32:17
a 6 '3", 250 -pound, handsome guy that they wanted
32:21
me to fuck good. They didn't instill much in
32:24
me. Everything else, I had to self -teach myself.
32:27
So the mistakes I made... I was like, oops, I
32:30
know not to do that again. Oh, hey, young blood.
32:33
Hey, come here. Come over here. I see about the
32:36
same mistake I did. Don't do this. Don't do that.
32:39
And now I put that same, no, knowledge on him.
32:43
So again, I tell people I'm a smart man that
32:46
I learned from my mistakes, but I'm teaching
32:49
you to be a wise man to learn from my mistakes.
32:52
Don't do what I've done to make these correctives.
32:55
And also. I'm also, I had the courage to behave
32:58
and not to tell guys. Well, I used to hear guys
33:00
go, shit, man, you know, you got to pay your
33:02
dues. No. No. I went through all the hard parts
33:08
so it could be easier for him. I went through
33:10
all the hard parts so he could know there was
33:11
a door open for him. I had to kick in fucking
33:14
doors. Do you guys remember how hard I told you
33:17
it was just to get splashed off the ground? How
33:20
many times we been told fucking no? Yeah. And
33:24
when we finally got in that motherfucker, the
33:25
doors are open. So I don't want the generation
33:29
after me to have to go through no hard shit like
33:32
that. I just want him to take the time and learn
33:36
some things from some great people that know
33:39
some things. It'll be easier. It'll be more enjoyable.
33:43
It'll be more beneficial for him and the people
33:45
above him. Well, after him. So I don't want people
33:49
to feel like they have to pay their dues and
33:50
work hard to do this and fit in and get in. No.
33:54
The fuck I do all the hard work for? What the
33:56
fuck did y 'all do all the hard work for? Right,
33:58
right. Hell no. I'm not trying to make... Look,
34:02
I don't believe in working hard. Fuck them straight
34:05
for putting on the naysayers, man. Think about
34:10
it. I'm telling you, if you look at it like this...
34:13
They're making it harder. I've seen guys on the
34:15
wall... Huh? They're making it harder by not
34:18
listening. They're making it hard, and they're
34:21
making it hard work because they're not getting
34:23
mentors like you guys. And as a woman, you know,
34:25
chiming in, you know, it's like, guys, listen
34:29
to these guys. They've been doing it. They know
34:31
what they're talking about. You know, women like
34:34
me and then, you know, countless others that
34:37
have been in the lifestyle a while, we appreciate
34:39
you guys honing your craft. So I'm just saying,
34:43
you know, they put in the hard work. And listening
34:46
and getting what they're saying is very easy
34:49
compared to reinventing the wheel. Well, see,
34:54
here's the thing about that. Now, if the guys
34:58
don't have the information or they don't know
35:02
and if they cross my path, apparently I tried
35:06
to teach them. They didn't want to fucking listen.
35:08
So therefore, they're not in my circle or in
35:10
my area. I'll get them away from me. If you want
35:14
to sit there and still hold on to the ignorance,
35:16
I don't want you around me. You cancer. I want
35:19
you to spread that shit within the brand. I want
35:21
you to spread that shit within the community.
35:23
So I got to get rid of you. If you're not willing
35:27
to sit your ass down and stop your dick from
35:31
getting hard just to listen a little bit, we're
35:35
not for you, my brother. I wish you well on your
35:38
journey, but your journey stop here. You can't
35:40
go no further. And I try to give almost everybody
35:43
a chance. I truly do. Because, again, I know
35:49
how hard it was for me to get in this. And how
35:55
people say there are levels. There are levels.
35:58
Yes. But sometimes you have to take that shit.
36:02
You got to wait until that door is about to close
36:04
just to ease your fat ass up in there. You know
36:07
you can't fit. You're going to rip a shirt. You're
36:09
going to rip something when you get to them doors.
36:11
But you better make a heavenly impression when
36:13
you get in there. And, hey, that's what I did.
36:18
That's what I did. And I always go back to the
36:21
struggle. That's why I appreciate so much when
36:26
I can sit back and just look down at everybody
36:29
and have a good time. I can sit back and look
36:32
at the young brothers come and talk to me and
36:33
chop it up. I can sit back and look at people
36:35
just fucking, like, just everything. We sit down,
36:39
we all get together and laugh, joke, and man,
36:42
that's a beautiful thing. That sent me all that
36:44
hard work, all that struggle, all that sweat,
36:47
and it paid off. It paid off. It really has.
36:54
It paid off. That's why I say humble. I love
36:58
it. So talking about legacy, you know, Unk brought
37:02
up legacy, and he knows I love that. As soon
37:04
as he said it. Ass siren. I was jumping up and
37:07
down, pumping my fist, trying to be quiet. I
37:09
was like, yes, I love it. Legacy, that's what
37:13
I'm talking about. Go to another podcast. You
37:16
want to hear, ooh, and I had three women and
37:18
she sucked this and he the. Dudes, we be doing
37:20
it. I'm too busy worrying about how to do that
37:22
than to listen to your ass doing it. I'm not,
37:24
you know, do your thing. That's just me. I want
37:26
to learn how to do it. But let's talk about legacy.
37:29
One of the things that I think. is is your an
37:34
incredible skill of yours and you know i called
37:38
you you know i'll be calling you and be like
37:39
i'll pick a subject and i want you to tell me
37:41
every damn thing you know about it because it's
37:43
going to be mine um so we talked about vetting
37:47
Right. And, you know, on a next another episode,
37:50
I want us to talk about the whole story from
37:52
your side of it, because we've heard from, you
37:55
know, the wonderful Tina from Splash Mocha. She's
37:58
beautiful and she's been on the show and you
37:59
guys have been on the show together. But I want
38:02
to hear your side of it. You know, we'll do that
38:04
later. But the biggest one I talk to you about
38:07
is vetting. And can you share with some of our
38:10
audiences, like some of the wisdom you have about
38:13
how to vet men? And how that line, because I
38:16
know your wisdom has told you, you either a brother
38:19
or get the fuck out my face. You know, I have
38:21
to deal with you. That's fine. I have to work
38:23
with you. That's fine. If we're interacting,
38:25
that's fine. If we're vibing and, you know, in
38:27
a party, that's fine. But when it comes to the
38:29
people you choose to spend time with, that's
38:32
your philosophy. I believe it. You can correct
38:35
me. I just came up with that on my own. But I
38:37
think that skill comes from you vetting people
38:40
or the other way around. Talk to me about that.
38:44
Well, I'm going to answer that broadly because
38:47
I don't want to go into too much of a detail
38:48
of my process, but I will say this. I carry it
38:57
as a genuine conversation because I don't want
39:01
no brother to feel like he's on an interview.
39:04
But what I do is I ask questions and then I would
39:09
give a statement or I give like a little... a
39:12
clause of a splash and then i'll wait for his
39:15
response and then if you don't give me a response
39:17
i go do you have any questions and if he says
39:20
no so now i got to dig into his experience so
39:23
how old are you um how long you been in the lifestyle
39:26
uh what area you live in who do you know what
39:30
community what establishment what house party
39:33
you know i ask these questions And at the end,
39:39
I try to look for inconsistencies or lies, I
39:42
would tell you. So, and I would give you an example.
39:45
I had a brother call me and he was like, first
39:49
flag he did was he sent me a dick pic. And I
39:52
already knew I was going to cut him off when
39:54
he sent me a dick pic of all fucking things.
39:56
He sent a dude a dick pic? Come on, bruh. Yeah,
39:59
man. That's how I'm going to qualify as you.
40:03
Yeah, he said, I want to use this BBC on a bunch
40:06
of, he said, some stupid -ass bird. So I carried
40:09
the conversation. I was like, so how old are
40:12
you? He says, 31. And I said, oh, okay, cool.
40:16
So how long have you been in the lifestyle? He
40:19
go, oh, well, you know, about 15, 16 years. And
40:24
I was like, damn, that's very impressive. I said,
40:26
so you've been in the lifestyle community as
40:28
a teenager? When did you have time for school?
40:31
Oh, well, I mean, I go, hey, hey, my brother.
40:34
All I ask for is honesty. So I'm going to give
40:37
you an opportunity to tell me again. How long
40:41
have you been in the lifestyle? Oh, I'm standing
40:42
on air. I've been in the lifestyle for 15, 16
40:44
years. And I go, okay, you take it easy. You
40:46
have a nice day. You're not fit for us. I hang
40:49
the phone up. Thank you. I just, I don't, I don't
40:54
carry the conversation because apparently he
40:55
don't know simple fucking math. And again, people,
41:01
family, along with other brothers and couples
41:04
listening. This life isn't for everybody. No.
41:08
Facts. I didn't bother waiting for strike three.
41:11
I just said, okay, you take it easy, brother.
41:13
I wish you well, all that. And he was out there.
41:17
So again, I carry a conversation and I also,
41:22
I can tell you this, I remember a kid contacted
41:24
me. He was like, hey, look, I understand that
41:28
you guys don't. allow people in 30 and under.
41:31
He said, but I just wanted to know, I read across
41:33
your profile. I like what I read. And he said,
41:38
I don't have experience, but I was told, how
41:44
do you put it? He said, if I want to, he said
41:46
something about starting on the high end and
41:48
being respected and he'll know his value. And
41:52
the way he said it, it just caught me because
41:55
I thought about myself trying to get in. And
42:00
he was so excited that I carried the conversation.
42:03
He would ask questions over and over and over.
42:05
He kept asking, kept asking. And I was like,
42:07
good God, this brother's really eager. Like,
42:10
now I still have my mind set on, ah, he's 30.
42:14
I don't want him in. But I remember me being
42:17
at that age, trying to get in the door. And he
42:21
just kept it going. I said, you know what? I
42:23
want to give you an opportunity to come to Splash.
42:26
I said, but. I want to see you in every seminar
42:29
and every podcast. And he was there. And I say
42:36
this was 2021 to now he's still coming to Splash.
42:42
Beautiful. And he was honest. He was honest with
42:45
me. And that's all you have to be. I mean, there's
42:52
nothing wrong with you saying, look, I've read
42:55
about this, but I haven't participated in the
42:59
actual lifestyle or lifestyle events. There's
43:03
nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong
43:05
with that, people. I mean, just be honest and
43:08
come in and meet guys that are more than willing,
43:12
more than willing to. Pull you to the side, talk
43:16
to you, and, you know, find out what you're all
43:19
about and just give you some good, solid advice.
43:22
You know, that's definitely where members of
43:26
the Brotherhood are right now. You know, myself,
43:29
Socrates, Demetri, we've talked to anyone at
43:33
any event, right? So don't be afraid to approach
43:37
us. Yeah, I want you. Say it again? Go ahead,
43:46
D. No, I was just saying, like, due to Splash
43:52
and the Brotherhood as well as Splash Mocha,
43:56
I'm not going to call him a kid. I'm going to
43:59
call him a gentleman. But I would say this man,
44:02
this young man became a gentleman. I mean, he
44:05
articulated his words. He walks properly. He
44:10
struts. He dressed properly. He's well -groomed.
44:13
He's up on his hygiene. I mean, standards, etiquette,
44:17
everything. He learned that splash. He put all
44:21
those tools and just teachings into and rebranded
44:26
himself. I mean, he's a stellar young man. He's
44:31
a gentleman. And I'm so fucking proud of him.
44:36
I'll make sure you guys meet him in April. Nice.
44:40
Good deal. Yeah, I call him the future. That's
44:43
why I always keep calling him. I say, you're
44:44
the future. You know, it's funny. He was a little
44:48
skinny kid, and he walked in, and he had a white
44:51
T -shirt on. And I said, did I tell you we're
44:54
a college shirt? He said, I'm sorry, I didn't
44:57
have enough money. So I took the shirt off my
45:00
back and gave it to him. Wow. Hey, that shirt
45:04
was so fucking big on him, but he wasn't. He
45:10
wore that shirt. And he told me, he said, brother,
45:13
I'm going to buy you a shirt. I said, yeah, yeah,
45:15
all right, whatever. But guess what? Last year
45:18
on my 50th birthday, he bought me a shirt. Yeah.
45:23
He came and brought it to my room and everything.
45:27
I told him I wasn't going to forget. You made
45:30
a lasting impression, brother. That's what we're
45:34
trying to do. Yeah, man. That's what we're trying
45:36
to do. That's legacy right there. That's legacy.
45:39
That's legacy. You know, making that lasting
45:41
impression on these younger brothers and even
45:46
older ones, you know, because like I said, I'm
45:49
loving going to an event now and just, you know,
45:55
watching my lady if she's with me and meeting
45:59
ones and talking to ones. I mean, sure, I'm going
46:01
to play some, but it ain't all about what. I
46:04
used to do and just keep my dick out for them
46:07
four days. Fuck that. It is about, you know,
46:13
wanting to share what I've learned and wanting
46:16
to keep this thing going and going and going.
46:19
And we are looking for, like I said, quality
46:22
brothers, you know, quality brothers to keep
46:24
this thing going. Oh, yes, that's so true. And
46:28
I wish that some way we can get the message out
46:31
to them. to let them know that uh it's not hard
46:35
to find the information is it's out there yeah
46:39
it's out there and they just gotta come in and
46:44
get the knobs man get the message yeah and i
46:47
assure them that they will have a long time within
46:50
the lifestyle community exactly well hell maybe
46:54
maybe at uh maybe a splash instead of like having
47:00
that usual meeting maybe we can turn that meeting
47:05
into something else you know something like that
47:08
where we just sit down we just chop it up and
47:11
uh let these guys ask these questions and we
47:14
have answers for them you know i have that once
47:19
i have them once i have the mandatory meeting
47:21
i would tell those guys to stand back and what
47:25
i do is i stand back myself and i will let the
47:29
vets go out there and you know, teach the guys.
47:34
I think that's a fair assessment for them to
47:38
put them in that leadership role just to give
47:41
back to the youth as well. So I would sit back
47:44
like, look, and I try to tell these guys all
47:47
the time, hey, look, I'm not a guru. I'm not
47:50
no preacher, no messiah, so it's okay to share
47:53
the platform. If you got something you want to
47:55
say that's going to be educational and beneficial
47:57
for these guys, by all means, the floor is yours.
48:03
And I live with the guys. I love it. Wonderful.
48:06
That sounds great. Oh, yeah. One of the things,
48:12
you know, Mr. Morgan is our resident lifestyle
48:18
expert. He's been doing it for 30 years. I've
48:21
been doing it for 10. So I run for four and a
48:24
half, I think five now. So for four years. But
48:26
one of the things that I'm going to be doing,
48:29
I'm going to be debuting a segment called. Socrates'
48:34
philosophies and hypotheses. Comes from the Wu
48:39
-Tang. Comes from the Wu -Tang. You know, you'll
48:43
hear that. But one of the things I'm going to
48:45
be moving towards is, what I don't even know
48:47
if I told my squad is, I have been studying dating
48:50
and marriage principles since I was 19. The first,
48:52
it was actually a tape, book on tape, called
48:56
Light Her Fire. And I probably read, I was counting
49:00
the other day, probably about 60 books on the
49:02
subject. From Christian conservative psychological
49:07
principles to John Gray to, you know, Red Pill.
49:12
And I think that these principles, we are a lifestyle
49:17
podcast, don't get it wrong. But I think the
49:20
bull and Kathy from... uh kathy k from the strictly
49:25
anonymous podcast very large lifestyle podcast
49:28
she agreed with me she this is her idea and i
49:30
like it is i think we are the standard for dating
49:35
and marriage period why well if a lot of the
49:40
dating guys that i follow now that are big on
49:43
the red pill are big in dating these guys are
49:46
married a guy named rolo tomasi wrote a book
49:48
called um the rational male it's a great book
49:51
if you think women are just sugar and spice and
49:54
everything nice it's a great book to read um
49:57
you know these guys got married he's got married
49:59
10 years ago he's only slept with 40 women his
50:02
entire life most of it is because he worked for
50:05
alcohol companies and when you work for an alcohol
50:07
company and you're out there sponsoring shows
50:09
and you work in a nightclub which i've done all
50:11
three i didn't work for the alcohol company i've
50:13
worked with him pussy just get thrown at you
50:15
Like that 40 is under impressive. You know, I
50:18
was like, please tell me you were just working
50:20
on sales and passing up pussy. Cause that's,
50:22
that's, you know, you get that, you get thrown
50:24
pussy on those events three nights a week. You
50:27
know what I mean? Like that's ridiculous. But
50:30
what is Mr. Morgan doing? He's in a throuple
50:36
relationship. While he's in a throuple relationship,
50:39
he also goes out there and talks to and, you
50:44
know, meets other women, other couples. He exercises
50:47
that daily. I'm married, right? However, I get
50:52
to, I don't, we don't date, but man, I have this
50:56
nice little chocolate mommy, you know, in her,
51:00
in her twenties and I'm learning new vernacular.
51:04
I didn't even know these little kids just learning,
51:05
you know, but I get to experience that. Right.
51:09
I'm still out there practicing my approach. So
51:13
one of the things that I love with all these
51:15
principles, and we're going to be talking to
51:17
Dimitri a lot, is that these are beneficial to
51:20
everybody. You know, what I like is the end.
51:23
Mr. Morgan says, curious minded explorers, I
51:28
think he said. I mean, you don't have to be lifestyle
51:31
listeners podcast. I recommend if you're curious
51:33
and you're open minded, I think it's curious
51:35
and open minded or something like that. in in
51:38
the intro then come on listen to us like you're
51:41
ready to elevate let's go that's what he says
51:43
at the end that means you're ready to elevate
51:45
what does that mean are we gonna get in here
51:48
and tell you well she better have a body count
51:50
of under five we're like shoot that's the other
51:52
way around for the lifestyle that's a tuesday
51:54
that's a tuesday on a tuesday right but you know
52:01
for for these men these men have married these
52:03
men have had marriages whether it worked out
52:06
or not They know what it is to be with a woman
52:09
and deal with the jealousy and the insecurities
52:12
or the compersion and the excitement of your
52:16
spouse dealing with that, going out there. And
52:20
I know so many men that got married because,
52:22
and I know a friend that told me this, he got
52:24
married because he hates rejection. He hated
52:28
it. And so he just got married. So he's not,
52:30
we're still working. I still work on that craft.
52:33
I get rejected often at Splash. We're still working
52:36
on that crap. So if you're gonna listen to anybody
52:38
You're gonna listen to somebody who claims to
52:41
be an expert in the subject, but ain't had no
52:43
pussy According to him in 15 years and it's married
52:47
There's nothing wrong with that, but he don't
52:50
have no practice where some of them I was on
52:52
them uh episode i can't wait for it to come with
52:55
mr mocha where he had a friend he's like man
52:57
lifestyle's easy because the women ain't gotta
52:59
act like they ain't fucking they clear they damn
53:01
they're chasing you he's like man go hone your
53:03
skills at a bar he's like that's a challenge
53:05
for me you know i have to get past the fact i
53:08
know you a slut let's do it i have to get past
53:10
the fact that you with your friends and three
53:12
of them are hating and two of them are there
53:14
to celebrate her birthday and you know they don't
53:16
want you to get no dick he's like i gotta traverse
53:19
a whole lot of shit that you lifestyle you know
53:22
he's like lifestyle is my vacation you know like
53:25
man lifestyle is my free that's when i want to
53:27
do some fun shit some some some easy shit now
53:31
i don't know about that perspective i'm not advocating
53:33
that but he's like he gets the opportunity he
53:37
has a girlfriend a living girlfriend he has a
53:39
very tight relationship with but he'll go down
53:42
you know when he wants to go to the bar and exercise
53:45
his skills and these are the kind of men He still
53:50
got it. What's that? He still got it, huh? He
53:55
still got it, yeah. I know plenty of people,
53:58
brothers, that do that. Because we can, fool.
54:01
We can. So we're coming up on time. I just wanted
54:06
to share that part. I'm excited about, you know,
54:09
the man, the myth, the legend, in my opinion,
54:13
the warrior lifestyle, the lifestyle warrior,
54:16
in my opinion. You know, I don't know if Mr.
54:21
Morgan or somebody else want to close it out,
54:22
but we're excited about, you know, letting, not
54:26
introducing, displaying and getting into deep
54:29
and fun stories and joking and talking shit,
54:32
you know, with groups and with just you and with
54:34
other people on the podcast and being on others.
54:37
We're excited about that. But what do you guys
54:40
have to say about it? Sorry, you got anything
54:46
to say on that? I'm just excited because the
54:51
more that we can get the word out for and the
54:56
women, you know, for any women listening and
54:58
I'll put it in my podcast group chat for the
55:02
Siren of Freedom ladies is encourage the guys
55:06
that you know to listen to these guys because
55:09
it's going to enhance our experience as well.
55:12
And I want to encourage any guys listening. It's
55:14
like we appreciate. you honing your craft and
55:18
the more you can get in with these guys listen
55:20
to them mentor under them hear what they have
55:23
to say the more pussy you're gonna get let's
55:27
just put it that way But don't come to me and
55:32
say, oh, I've been listening to the Bull Brotherhood
55:35
so I can get some pussy from you. No, that's
55:38
not going to work. I'll watch you and see what
55:42
you have learned and how you're treating. And
55:44
the hottest thing to me is to see you see other
55:47
guys out there treating other women with respect
55:50
and care. And that turns me on. And then I. We'll
55:54
be watching you. Unk, I don't even know. Unk,
55:57
I don't even know if I said this, but she just
55:59
went on a play date over the weekend with a guy
56:02
who literally told me, I learned my skills by
56:05
listening to you guys. I was like, we ain't got
56:08
but like 30, 40 episodes. Wow. And he's one of
56:13
the most impressive ones that just does it the
56:15
right way. And I forgot to tell Unk, I don't
56:18
know if I told Unk about that. I hadn't even
56:20
met him when I got there. He flew me to Vegas.
56:24
But we talked to him so much, and he did things
56:27
so correctly that Socrates trusted him. That's
56:32
amazing. That's great. That's great right there.
56:36
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And that's what we're trying
56:39
to bring to the table, ladies and gentlemen,
56:43
and fellow bulls and fellow hot wives and cuckoo
56:47
couples, et cetera, all right? Siren couldn't
56:50
have said any better. Dimitri. Thank you, my
56:54
brother. Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen,
56:57
you will be hearing a lot of Dimitri on the podcast
56:59
in the next few weeks. So get used to it, as
57:03
well as other members of the brotherhood also.
57:06
Again, my brother, thank you for everything,
57:09
for that knowledge you just threw out there.
57:11
Ladies and gentlemen, I am B. Morgan, a .k .a.
57:13
The Sigma Male, along with the family, Siren
57:16
and Socrates, coming at you. And until next week,
57:20
to all my hot wives. And cuckoo couples out there,
57:24
good night. To all the brothers out there. And
57:29
I just fucked that up. To all the brothers out
57:31
there, have a good night. To all the hot wives
57:34
and cuckoos, good morning.