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IHeartMedia Aviation Expert Jay Ratliff · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Stace, Tgi Friday, Eve Rin Thomas. Always looking forward to
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Speaker 1: this time of the week. Get to talk to iHeartMedia
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Speaker 1: Aviace expert Jay ratlif Jay, my friend, Welcome back to
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Speaker 1: the fifty five Cassey Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: Good to hear from you as always.
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Speaker 3: Oh, it's always a pleasure to talk to you, my friend.
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Speaker 1: And I got to ask you real quick here. I
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Speaker 1: saw good news for the airline industry. I'm shocked that
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Speaker 1: things are looking so good, apparently on track to surpass
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Speaker 1: last year's record number of travelers in spite of the
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Speaker 1: fact that airline fares are up almost thirteen percent since January.
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Speaker 2: Is that comes to shock to you, Jay at all?
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Speaker 3: Not really, because you know, ever since we came out
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Speaker 3: of the pandemic, there's been this, I guess, kind of
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Speaker 3: the need for a lot of people to go for
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Speaker 3: some of the premium seats to be a little bit
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Speaker 3: more comfortable, and airlines have really understood that, Hey, there's
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Speaker 3: a lot more people that are willing to pay for these,
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Speaker 3: you know, comfort plus seats or even discounted seats in
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Speaker 3: first class, and they've been trying as quickly as they
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Speaker 3: can to make those available. So if that's kind of
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Speaker 3: the prevailing thought on those. You've got a lot of
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Speaker 3: other people say, Look, if I got to the middle
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Speaker 3: e lecture to travel, I need it. I'm gonna take it,
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Speaker 3: and the airlines are taking advantage of it.
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Speaker 1: Pent up demand. That makes sense to me, you know, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'll suck up the extra I got to get out
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Speaker 1: of town. Makes sense all right. Well, speaking of premium
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Speaker 1: seats as one of the topics on your list today,
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Speaker 1: the rush for these increased premium seats. So is it
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Speaker 1: the money customers that are driving the revenue this year?
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Speaker 3: I guess it is because you and I have talked
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Speaker 3: a little bit about how airlines have shifted some of
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Speaker 3: their first class upgrades. Where you used to be able
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Speaker 3: rather easily with your frequent flyer status or miles upgrade
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Speaker 3: from coach to first class. Airline's recognized, you know, we're
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Speaker 3: losing a little bit of money on that, but it's
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Speaker 3: a trade off from the loyalty standpoint. They can care
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Speaker 3: less about that now. So now they're making a lot
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Speaker 3: harder for us to get up there from coach, and
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Speaker 3: what they're trying to do as much as possible is
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Speaker 3: to get people to buy those They're also seeing this
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Speaker 3: florish as far as the increasing demand of those premium
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Speaker 3: suits we just talked about, and you have airlines like America, Delta,
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Speaker 3: United and others that are trying as quickly as they
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Speaker 3: can to convert existing coach seats into those premium ones
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Speaker 3: that are slightly bigger, more leg room, those kind of
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Speaker 3: things that people are getting more and more interested in.
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Speaker 3: The bad thing for those of us sitting in coach
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Speaker 3: is that means fewer seats in coach, which means higher
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Speaker 3: fares in coach, which means those fares are going to
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Speaker 3: go up as a result of airlines pivoting towards the
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Speaker 3: premium type of situation. You have Southwest Airlines this year
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Speaker 3: that came out with premium seats. They are thrilled that
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Speaker 3: they've done that. You've got low cost carriers that are
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Speaker 3: coming out with first class seats because people are wanting those.
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Speaker 3: They're very happy for that. So you have people that
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Speaker 3: are starting to understand, look, I'm willing to pay a
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Speaker 3: little extra money to be in a slightly better seat.
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Speaker 3: You know, things that we used to get for free.
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Speaker 3: But you know, the vast majority of travelers today, the
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Speaker 3: average age that they don't remember having you know, forty
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Speaker 3: eight inches between rose where you could kind of relax
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Speaker 3: and take it easy and things of this nature. They're
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Speaker 3: used to being packed in like sardines now And it's like,
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Speaker 3: if it's an extra eighteen twenty bucks this way or
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Speaker 3: that for me to have a slightly better trip, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I'm willing to pay for it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah that makes perfect sense. And yeah it's a small
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Speaker 1: price to pay for a lot of extra comfort from
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Speaker 1: my perspective.
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Speaker 2: So I get that.
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Speaker 3: Charlandes are making more money as a result. Brian Souscian American.
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Speaker 3: They need all the help they can get right now,
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Speaker 3: and those premium type seats and other things are something
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Speaker 3: they hope that can help, you know, write the ship.
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Speaker 3: They're seeing Delta United quarterly profits of close to a
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Speaker 3: billion dollars. You know, they're mumbling through with like a
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Speaker 3: two hundred million dollar profit, a fraction of what other
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Speaker 3: people are generating.
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Speaker 1: It's amazing the massive profits that are there. Real quick
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Speaker 1: here in the remaining moments of this segment, and you
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Speaker 1: do a short one on this one, and man try
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Speaker 1: to enter a Japan with something strange in his suitcase.
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Speaker 3: Jay lizards, lizards, lizards he had I think two hundred
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Speaker 3: and twelve of them. He was flying from Mexico into
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Speaker 3: Asia lands. And you can buy them in Mexico for
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Speaker 3: like five bucks a peace, sell them in Japan for
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Speaker 3: six hundred a piece.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I mean yeah.
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Speaker 3: The obvious incentive there. So yeah, he flies, and of
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Speaker 3: course the customs agency there did what customs does. They
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Speaker 3: protect entry of either you know, plants, animals, those kinds
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Speaker 3: of things, and they quickly found this. He had them
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Speaker 3: stuffed into a bunch of socks and thought nobody would
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Speaker 3: notice him in his in his luggage. Well they did notice.
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Speaker 3: He was arrested and we facing quite the fine. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: I mean it's a dangerous thing when you get fruit
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Speaker 3: or different types of things introduced into a country that
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Speaker 3: might have bugs or different types of things that could
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Speaker 3: threaten the crop of some kind. So the customs team
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Speaker 3: is the men and women. That's the last line of
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Speaker 3: defense for a lot of countries. So they do a
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Speaker 3: very very good job. And why somebody thinks they could
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Speaker 3: sneak I don't know, two hundred and twelve or whatever
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Speaker 3: it was lizards past those people. I don't know what
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Speaker 3: they were thinking.
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Speaker 1: Man, what an amazing return on investment. I can certainly
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Speaker 1: understand why he would even try, even though it is illegal,
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Speaker 1: Jay Ratliffe, he.
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Speaker 3: Got paid for it. I'm sure. I'm sure the portion
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Speaker 3: responsible was sitting back paying this little mule to get
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Speaker 3: it across air and didn't happen.
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Speaker 2: It didn't happen.
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Speaker 1: Well A to the extent I had any faith in
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Speaker 1: the in flying, you probably have eroded the balance of it.
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Speaker 1: Several stories. We have airline flights avoiding disaster, we have
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Speaker 1: a blown tire on landing, and we have bullets on airplanes.
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Speaker 1: Don't go away more with Iheartmediaviation Expert, Jay Ratlift.
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Speaker 2: Fifty five KRC. Have you ever been in a cockpit before?
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Speaker 2: Eight thirty nine on a Thursday?
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Speaker 1: Of course means we're talking to iHeart Mediaviation Expert Jay
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Speaker 1: Ratlife get the benefit of his company for a few
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Speaker 1: segments here on a Thursday every week, and I love it. Okay,
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Speaker 1: over to the things that are further ruining my faith
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Speaker 1: in air travel, Jay Ratliffe, We start with two American
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Speaker 1: airline flights avoiding disaster.
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Speaker 2: What happened here, Jay, A.
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Speaker 3: Bit to unpacked, but it was American Airlines twenty four
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Speaker 3: eighty two. It's a scheduled departure for American iFly Chicago
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Speaker 3: Phoenix turns around, it comes back to Chicago there and
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Speaker 3: background trip. They use the same flight number both directions.
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Speaker 3: Not a problem, happens all the time. The issue was
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Speaker 3: that first flight from Chicago, the originating flight twenty four
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Speaker 3: eighty two, was delayed big time. Now, at some point
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Speaker 3: American Airlines IOC, that's their integrated Operations Center, they said, hey, look,
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Speaker 3: we've got an available aircraft in Phoenix, We've got the
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Speaker 3: crew there. Let's go ahead and run that one back
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Speaker 3: on time so that we don't further delay passengers and
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Speaker 3: we get that particular aircraft chart back on schedule. They said,
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Speaker 3: a great idea, because again, if they can operate it
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Speaker 3: close to that schedule departure, that's a good thing. But Brian,
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Speaker 3: for some inexplicable, asinine reason, they decided to use the
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Speaker 3: same flight number. So you now have delayed American Airlines
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Speaker 3: twenty four eighty two from Chicago coming into Phoenix. At
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Speaker 3: the same time you've got the substitute of American Airlines
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Speaker 3: twenty four eighty two taking off from Phoenix. You now
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Speaker 3: have two American Airline flights operating under the same flight number,
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Speaker 3: operating near the same airport, on the same radio frequency
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Speaker 3: and at the exact same moment. Now, I don't have
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Speaker 3: the mass skills to calculate the odds on this, but
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Speaker 3: I'll guarantee you it's astronomical. Thank god, we had an
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Speaker 3: air traffic controller that was experienced on site who said,
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Speaker 3: time out here, we've got a problem because we've got
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Speaker 3: two planes following the same set of instructions, and obviously
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Speaker 3: they could end up occupying the same airspace at the
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Speaker 3: same time. Yeah, that's kind of that's kind of it,
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Speaker 3: although it could have been avoided. But the issue was
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Speaker 3: this air traffic controller and I heard the audio. This
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Speaker 3: is going to be a training tape. I guarantee it
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Speaker 3: for future air traffic control classes. He broke it down,
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Speaker 3: calling out each aircraft by altitude and flight number, and
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Speaker 3: kept the two of them at a safe distance. And
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Speaker 3: once it was all over and everybody was okay, both
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Speaker 3: sets of pilots and the air traffic controller said, I've
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Speaker 3: been doing this for like thirty thirty five. I've never
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Speaker 3: seen this before and hopefully we never will again. But
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Speaker 3: let's say the air traffic controller hadn't caught it. The
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Speaker 3: two aircraft do kind of approach each other. They have
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Speaker 3: the onboard traffic collision avoidan system, the t CAST system
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Speaker 3: you and I've talked about, that would have alerted both
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Speaker 3: crews one to climb, one to descend, and cruiser taught
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Speaker 3: the minute that goes off. You followed those instructions immediately,
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Speaker 3: and that could have kept the two airplanes at a
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Speaker 3: safe distance. Which but again you're wrecking You're you know,
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Speaker 3: kind of putting our confidence in technology which can fail
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Speaker 3: from time to time. And fortunately we never got to
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Speaker 3: that last line of defense, and the air traffic controller
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Speaker 3: did just an incredible job. So I'm hopeful that American
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Speaker 3: and other airlines around the world are learning that maybe
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Speaker 3: using the same flight number on two flights is not
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Speaker 3: what we would consider a good idea. It's happened before,
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Speaker 3: but never like this where we've had them both at
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Speaker 3: the same spot at the same time.
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Speaker 2: It's amazing that could even happen.
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Speaker 1: All right, something apparently is happening more and more of late.
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Speaker 1: We have yet one more aircraft blowing a tire on landing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I get emails on this quite a bit, saying, Jay,
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Speaker 3: what are we having issues with the tire manufacturers in it,
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Speaker 3: and I say, no, it's the time of year when
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Speaker 3: you look at the summer, hot summer travel season, we
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Speaker 3: have a large number of tires that erupt either on
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Speaker 3: takeoff or landing, and a lot of that just has
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Speaker 3: to do with the heat on the tarmac and the
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Speaker 3: friction that builds up with these aircraft tires with the
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Speaker 3: intense pressure they're under. Typically you'll see this happen in
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Speaker 3: the summer. Sometimes it'll happen at other times. If you
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Speaker 3: land an aircraft and you're like, ooh, I want to
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Speaker 3: make that first turn, so you kind of lean on
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Speaker 3: the brakes a little bit more than you should. That
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Speaker 3: can cause a tire to blow as well. But it's
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Speaker 3: not dangerous, but it's inconvenient, and it normally means the
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Speaker 3: airplane's not going anywhere for like ninety minutes. They've got
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Speaker 3: to either bust everybody off the aircraft, ring out some steps,
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Speaker 3: or everybody sits there until it's fixed and then they
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Speaker 3: taxi to the gate. But we've seen these tires blow
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Speaker 3: and both take off and landing. But it's nothing to
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Speaker 3: be overly concerned with because once the temperatures start to cool,
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Speaker 3: and I guess eventually that will happen. We'll see fewer
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Speaker 3: and fear of these occurrences. So it's you can take
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Speaker 3: that off of your list of things that we.
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Speaker 2: Need to worry about in aviation.
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Speaker 1: Well, the tires on airplanes are redundant. They have multiple sets, right,
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Speaker 1: they do normally when the.
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Speaker 3: Gear drops, you've got at least two of those, and
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Speaker 3: if one blows, you're you're still going to be okay.
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Speaker 3: And even if one blows on takeoff, and we've seen
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Speaker 3: that happen, the crews are made aware of it and
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Speaker 3: they adjust their landing accordingly. If it's if it's one.
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Speaker 2: Of the.
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Speaker 3: Forward landing gear that drops and one of those tires blow.
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Speaker 3: When they land, they'll land on the mains, which is
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Speaker 3: the back to, and they'll just kind of keep the
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Speaker 3: nose in the air for as long as they can
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Speaker 3: and at the last moment just slowly drop it down
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Speaker 3: and go that route, or if it's one of the
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Speaker 3: two mains, they'll kind of favor maybe the left or
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Speaker 3: the right side and then slowly rotate it down. I mean,
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Speaker 3: these men and women have landed on aircraft carriers in
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Speaker 3: bad weather. That's not what we would consider an incredible
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Speaker 3: challenge to their flying skills. They know what to do.
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Speaker 1: That's peace of mind there right, Well, don't go away.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna find out the TSA dropped the ball a
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Speaker 1: bullet on an airplane? How'd that get in there? Plus, oh,
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Speaker 1: there's damage on takeoff too, not just landing. More with
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Speaker 1: Jay ratlift Hey forty eight if I've care see the
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Speaker 1: talk station, it's Friday e one more second with Jay
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Speaker 1: ratlif I heart media aviation expert going over across the
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Speaker 1: pond to Munich. We have a plane damaged on takeoff.
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Speaker 1: What happened here, Jay Rattlifte.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the official word was a troubled takeoff, and I
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Speaker 3: think that was an understatement when you see what happened.
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Speaker 3: This was a Vietnam Airlines flight Munich to Henoi. It
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Speaker 3: was a seven eighty seven dream Liner wide body aircraft.
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Speaker 3: Plane rolls to take off and Brian, it takes the
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Speaker 3: entire runway for the crew to get the plane airborne.
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Speaker 3: In fact, some of the initial details suggests that the
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Speaker 3: plane not only needed the entire runway, but some of
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Speaker 3: the area on the other side of the runway, like
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Speaker 3: the grass and the other things before it was airborne.
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Speaker 3: In fact, that it looks like they impacted some of
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Speaker 3: the equipment that's located at the end of the runway
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Speaker 3: on takeoff. So now you've got this damaged aircraft. It's
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Speaker 3: taking off out of Munich, and the decision was made,
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Speaker 3: maybe it's not a good idea to fly all the
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Speaker 3: way to Munich or sorry, to Hanoi, so they decided
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Speaker 3: to come back and land. But the problem is, when
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Speaker 3: you take off, you're fully fueled, with the idea that
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Speaker 3: you're going to burn off that fuel on the way
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Speaker 3: to your destination and then you'll be within the allowable
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Speaker 3: maximum landing way or under that to land the aircraft.
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Speaker 3: In essence, this plane was too heavy to land safely,
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Speaker 3: so they circled the airport for like ninety minutes or
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Speaker 3: two hours to burn off that required fuel. In fact,
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Speaker 3: on one pass, they actually did a low altitude fly
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Speaker 3: by the air traffic control center and I suspect that
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Speaker 3: so the controllers could do a visible inspection of the
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Speaker 3: bottom of the aircraft landing gear see if there's any
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Speaker 3: damage that they could report to the flight crew. Now,
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Speaker 3: the plane did land safely, everybody was okay, but it
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Speaker 3: was too damage to taxi off the runway. That should
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Speaker 3: tell you something had forced the airport in Munich to
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Speaker 3: close that runway to art all the other traffic to
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Speaker 3: the other runways. And right now, the investigation continues. So
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Speaker 3: it was either pilot air or they loaded the aircraft
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Speaker 3: with more weight than what the crew was told, or
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Speaker 3: they may have had a mechanical situation where some of
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Speaker 3: the data that the crew is being fed and the
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Speaker 3: cockpit was in air. So the investigation will bear it
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Speaker 3: out see exactly what happened. But wow that anytime you
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Speaker 3: run out of runway and you've got to count on
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Speaker 3: the area after that to get an airplane off the ground,
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Speaker 3: you're on borrowed time. And thankfully they got that bad
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Speaker 3: boy in.
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Speaker 1: The air, no doubt about it. All right, go to
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Speaker 1: the United Airlines flight, they had to evacuate it. How
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Speaker 1: is it that a bullet got into the cabin? I
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Speaker 1: thought we had TSA to stop that from happening.
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Speaker 3: Now nobody knows what happens is you had a United
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Speaker 3: flight in Denver, somebody discovers the bullet, which obviously should
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Speaker 3: not have gotten through airport security, and the thought is
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Speaker 3: could anything else have gotten through? So there's a protocol
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Speaker 3: we have to follow, and we have to follow it.
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Speaker 3: When this happens, there's been an obvious breach of some kind.
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Speaker 3: So you take every passenger off that aircraft, all their
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Speaker 3: luggage that's in the cabin area out. You do the
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Speaker 3: hard target search inside the aircraft, looking at all the
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Speaker 3: seatback pockets, the bins, looking at the trash cans and
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Speaker 3: all the laboratories. You're looking for anything that might have
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Speaker 3: been snuck through and left behind as passengers got off.
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Speaker 3: Once that inspection is complete, which takes some time, as
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Speaker 3: well as rescreening the passengers and perhaps questioning them if
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Speaker 3: they need to, you're talking about a significant delay, which
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Speaker 3: is what this aircraft had. Bullets are relatively easy to
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Speaker 3: smuggle on to an aircraft. I mean this is well known,
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Speaker 3: so I'm not saying.
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Speaker 2: Any I was kind of wondering about that. Yeah, I
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Speaker 2: really true.
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Speaker 3: You Well, if you put a bullet in your hand
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Speaker 3: and walk through the checkpoint, the tip it won't go off, right,
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Speaker 3: which is why if you ever go through the airport
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Speaker 3: security with your flint your fists clenched, they'll be like
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Speaker 3: time out, open it up, go back. So oh really
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Speaker 3: it's you know, yeah, so they'll yeah, I've never gone
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Speaker 3: to try it. I mean, I mean, well, they're trained
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Speaker 3: to look for this, and again this is this is
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Speaker 3: common knowledge. So it's not something where I'm going to
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Speaker 3: get angry emails from the TA. Well they might anyways,
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Speaker 3: but they do a really good job of catching this.
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Speaker 3: And uh so it's you know, but look, even if
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Speaker 3: you get the bullet through, the idea of getting anything
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Speaker 3: through that you could use the fire it's probably not
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Speaker 3: going to happen. But still it's a concern because anytime
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Speaker 3: you've got an obvious lapse in something, that's the case, right.
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Speaker 3: I've told you before. I flew out of an airport
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Speaker 3: with three boxes of three fifty seven ammunition holow points
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Speaker 3: and I carry on bag and the agents at the
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Speaker 3: time didn't catch it. We were coming back from Orange
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Speaker 3: County when they were screening my hand carry bag and
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Speaker 3: they said, sir, can we look in here? I said, oh, absolutely,
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Speaker 3: go ahead, and they pulled out that first box of
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Speaker 3: ammunition and I thought two things, uh uh oh and yeah,
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Speaker 3: I guess because that's where I carried a lot of
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Speaker 3: times one of my firearms. Sure, and then here comes
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Speaker 3: here comes box two, box three, and I knew had
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Speaker 3: they pulled a fourth box out. That's when an incident
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Speaker 3: report is filed, and I'm in a little bit of trouble,
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Speaker 3: and of course my lovely wife is back there with
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Speaker 3: this smile, this beautiful smile that says, oh aviation analyst.
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Speaker 3: I yet totally forgot they were in there. But there
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Speaker 3: are times that that does happen. And you know, I
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Speaker 3: contacted that airport it was not CBG, and I got
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Speaker 3: ahold of the TSA supervisor and I said, go, I
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Speaker 3: can pull the film from this day and see all
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Speaker 3: the agents that were responsible for me being screened, so
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Speaker 3: that we can use that as a training aid to
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Speaker 3: make sure that you know nothing it doesn't happen again.
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Speaker 3: And of course in California they apologize to me, and
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Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, you're doing your job. Don't worry about that.
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Speaker 3: They said, you know, is it okay if we discarded
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Speaker 3: the MS said absolutely, and I was just glad it
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Speaker 3: was three boxes and not four, So you know, I mean,
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Speaker 3: we all can forget, and certainly I'm responsible. I did
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Speaker 3: it as well.
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, everybody makes mistakes from time to time,
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Speaker 1: even Jay Ratlift.
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Speaker 2: That's okay.
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Speaker 3: Oh yoh, I've got plenty of witnesses to every one
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Speaker 3: of them.
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Speaker 2: So just ask you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you and me both on that anyway we typically do,
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Speaker 1: we end on hub delays. How's their travel looking out
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Speaker 1: there today, Jay Ratliffe.
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Speaker 3: So far pretty good. Now, we do have some weather
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Speaker 3: issues that are going to be kind of north of
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Speaker 3: us that we're going to be keeping an eye on
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Speaker 3: in Chicago and Detroit that may be giving us some issues,
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Speaker 3: but most of those are subsiding. But as today progresses
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Speaker 3: late in the day, we could see issues in Philadelphia,
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Speaker 3: but a lot of rain through the middle part of
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Speaker 3: the country. So if you're going to be flying, there's
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Speaker 3: going to be turbulence. It's not dangerous, just uncomfortable. Keep
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Speaker 3: your seat belt fastened about you. You'll be fine. But
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Speaker 3: as far as major hub delays, I think today we're
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Speaker 3: going to be catching a break.
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Speaker 1: Glad to hear Jay Raytlift. Thank you so much for
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Speaker 1: the time you saw up my listeners and me on
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Speaker 1: this program in this segment, and I look forward to
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Speaker 1: next week we'll do it again.
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Speaker 2: As always, we.
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Speaker 1: End with health, best of health and love to you
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Speaker 1: and your better half Comedian she.
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Speaker 3: Is she is indeed you as well, my friend
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