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Kim Chestney – The Illumination Code · Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman

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My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice. I've always been
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fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science and the crossroads at which they meet.
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Join me now and we will explore these topics and so much more with
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fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to Destination Unlimited. Have
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you ever known, felt, or sensed something that defies rational explanation? Have
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you ever wondered how your intuition is able to know things that should be impossible
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to know. My guest this week on Destination Unlimited, renowned intuition expert Kim
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Chestney, says that the latest findings in quantum physics offer evidents for the whole
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spectrum of intuitive experience, from everyday occurrences such as hunches and gut feelings,
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to impossible phenomenon such as telepathy, remote viewing, and precognition. Kim Chesney
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is the founder of Intuition Lab and the Create Festival, and her work raises
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awareness about the importance of insight in the evolution of individual and world consciousness.
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Her website is kimchesty dot com, and she joins me this week to share
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her experience research and new book, The Illumination Code Seven Keys to Unlock Your
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Quantum Intelligence. Please join me in welcoming back to Destination Unlimited, Kim Chesney.
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Welcome back, Kim Ah. Thanks for having me, Victor, It's
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great to be back. It's so wonderful after three years to bring you back
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for your brand new book, The Illumination Code. Seven Keys to Unlock Your
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Quantum Intelligence. Congratulations. Yeah, thank you, thank you. I'm super
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excited. It's taken me a long time to write this book. That's why
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we had our little pause in there. There's a lot of good stuff in
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there that I'm really excited to talk about and work with people on KIM For
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our listeners meeting you for the first time, please share your early path and
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how it led to your curiosity as to the nature of both intuition and reality.
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Yeah. So, I've really been very passionate about intuition for my entire
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life, and it started when I was quite young and I lived in a
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haunted house for a while. For one thing that really piqued my curiosity as
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a child because I had had some really extraordinary experiences, things that people told
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me should be impossible. I'd seeing things move around on their own hearing things,
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seeing things that shouldn't be there. So when you start to have those
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experiences at a young age, it really makes you question what is reality and
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what is the nature of reality? And people tell me things are impossible,
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but I know they're not because I've experienced them. So that was really the
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beginning of this curiosity that's driven me over the past thirty forty years really to
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understand the nature of reality, and our intuition plays such a key part of
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that more than a lot of us realize. And you know, my journey
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really started out working as a creative person, naturally intuitive, and then moving
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into you know, writing books, which which was really my outlet for the
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discoveries that I was making as a child. Did you ever share anything that
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you experienced with others and what was the reaction. Well, the thing that
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was really interesting about some of these experiences I touch on them a little bit
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in the book, is that some of them were even shared experienced. We
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had them with other members of my family and other friends had experienced them.
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So it wasn't something that I felt totally alone in in that regard as a
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very young person, because we were all like, what is going on here?
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But as I got old and I personally realized that that I, as
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you know, I'm a Scorpio, I have six planets in scorpios. I
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think I'm just naturally gravitate towards these kind of intuitive experiences. And I did
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start to have a lot of sort of things on my own happen in my
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life that were very personal that allowed me to really start to pursue this and
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drove a passion to understand myself and understand the world that I lived in because
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of these things. So, yeah, it was difficult talking about it,
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really sort of coming out of the closet about this kind of stuff, because
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it's an area that you know, especially in the past. It's getting better
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now, but thirty years ago it was still sort of shrouded in mystery and
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deemed a cult or supernatural, and you know, people sort of looked at
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you sideways. My first book, Psychic Workshop, came out, and that
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was in two thousand and four, and I had people coming up to me
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at work and being like, I'm afraid to walk past you in the hall,
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like you might not be able to read my mind. So there is
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just a lot of misinformation about it. But I'm glad that's changing. I
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remember thirty forty years ago was referred to as woo woah will who ever discussed
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this whooh stuff again. But as a kid growing up in the fifties,
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any time I reported anything that I experienced, I was labeled as a child
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with an overactive imagination and did not speak about it. And that was a
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bad thing because that suppressed a lot of stuff from me when I was growing
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up and I was able to blossom into it later on in my life.
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Kim, last time you were on, you discussed your best selling book,
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Radical Intuition. For those who have not read this yet, what inspired this
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and what do you share with readers? Well, so Radical Intuition came out
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of this this really curiosity to understand what is intuition and how does it work.
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There's so many different manifestations of intuition. Is it a feeling, is
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it a knowing? Is it a physical reaction? And so with Radical Intuition,
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it was really a deep dive into creating a new framework to understand intuition
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is a very natural cognitive function that we all have. And to your point
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about you know, being an overimaginative child, I talk about this a lot
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because children are born very naturally open and intuitive, and our society has,
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you know, at least in the past. Again, it's getting better now,
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but historically has systematically repressed intuition, told us it wasn't real anytime we
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had any experiences. They've really conditioned us out into believing them or integrating them
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into our lives. So really moving past that conditioning that we grew up with
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and starting to replace that with an understanding of intuition that is a normal part
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of our thinking process. Everybody has it. It's an underdeveloped potential that everyone
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can get better at. It's not scary, it's not wu, it's not
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something to be afraid of. It's our best friend, and it really is
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the secret to true genius. All the great people in history who've been successful
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have attested to this. Einstein, Tesla, Steve Jobs, the mystics,
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the gurus. All throughout history, intuition has been deeply linked to the genius
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that supersedes even our intellectual minds. So there's a lot to be explored and
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developed in the realm of intuition once we're ready to open our minds. And
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for those parents who may have young children who are reporting things that they don't
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see or hear or understand. Listen to your kids, encourage them rather than
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discourage them. That's so important. Absolutely, absolutely, You'll do them such
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a big favor if you believe in them and allow them to cultivate that side
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of their mind from a very young age. Congratulations again on your just published
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new book, The Illumination Code, Seven Keys to Unlock your Quantum Intelligence.
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What inspired that book? Yes, So that book came out of the Radical
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Intuition. Each one's sort of a journey deeper and deeper into intuition and understanding
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it. So after radical Intuition and people started to really see their intuition work,
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recognize it. Wow, this is really happening. Wow. And then
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the question I kept getting is, well, how does it happen? How
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is it possible for me to know something before it happens? If I have
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a feeling about someone and I don't know anything about them, how is it
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possible for me to know that they're like not a good person or that they
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are a good person? Is how is it possible for me to know someone's
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calling on the phone and pick up you know that happened to just pick up
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the phone at the same time. Is that a coincidence? What's really going
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on? So that was my big question when I started to write The Illumination
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Code is I wanted to be able to answer that question scientifically. I wanted
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to be able to answer it in a sensible way that fit our narrative of
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the modern era. Instead of resorting to, you know, the old fashioned
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things, Oh well, it's just a mystery, or it's the cult,
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or it's your spirit guides and angels whispering in your ear. I really needed
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to understand what was happening. And so oh it was such a fascinating journey.
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It took me a year, fully a year to write the book and
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research the book, and I got to work with some really amazing physicists and
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really smart people who have really been exploring the new frontiers of consciousness and how
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that is now being explained in terms of physics and you know, concepts like
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string theory and entanglement and all of these really cool things that are emerging in
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the realm of modern science. So working with these folks, and the interesting
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thing is, none of these people really tackled intuition. They tackled consciousness and
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how you know, we're all connected in terms of you know, sort of
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the Internet, a world wide web of mind. In some ways, we're
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all connected, but they never really put the pieces together in terms of intuition
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specifically. So I was really excited to sort of pick up and carry that
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flag and really see how intuition wraps into this conversation. So it's really this
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beautiful merging right now that's happening of science and ancient mysticism and spirituality. All
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of these things are actually coming together to start reinforcing each other. Now they
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were at odds for so long when we were living in this sort of materialist
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mindset, but now finally with the advent of quantum physics, and understand the
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quantum physics tells us that these impossible things are possible, and all of this
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magic that we say couldn't happen is actually deeply embedded in the universe and is
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all very real, and our intuition's actually at the center of it. Now,
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for listeners and your potential readers who may be scared by words like quantum
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and physics and things of that nature, let's talk a little bit about that
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first. A quantum. A quantum is described as the smallest discrete unit of
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a phenomenon. For example, a quantum of light is called a photon,
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the quantum of electricity is called an electron. What's a quantum of intuition?
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Well, that's a great question, because that is what we call the illumination
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code and the title of the book, and I'm glad that you brought that
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up because it really does tie in to really the essence of this, this
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whole book, which blew my mind. Honestly, writing this book and learning
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from these scientists changed my whole way of understanding reality. I really couldn't believe
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that, you know that I missed for this long. I was like,
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how did I not know this stuff? But it's really leading edge stuff that
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they're not teaching in school yet. But it comes down to this idea.
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I know, quantum is a word we hear a lot, so you know,
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I try not to over use that word, But the reality is that
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we can if we want to boil this down. And my whole mission on
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this book was to boil down really deep scientific concepts into regular, everyday language
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so that the everyday person, you, me, everyone can just understand it
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in a simplified way. So really understanding that we live in sort of there's
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sort of two dimensions of our reality just as far as we're concerned, you
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know, there's actually more out there, but you know, as far as
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we're concerned with our consciousness, we're living in this world here, the physical
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world, the material world where we can touch and feel things with our physical
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body, but there's also a world embedded within that, and beyond that,
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the sort of metareality. And this is where the quantum comes in. It's
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the microcosmic reality of the sub atomic reality. All the stuff that's happening on
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this really really tiny level where we can't perceive it. We know that physical
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matter, right if you look closely enough at our bodies, the tables were
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sitting next to, or the chairs we're on, you open up these this
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sort of the molecules that make up these physical objects, and you go deeper
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and deeper, and it turns out those that's made of particles, that's made
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of these little quantum elements, photons, electrons, and what's in between all
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of it is so much empty space. And it's unbelievable actually when you start
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to look at it on some atomic scale, how much space is actually in
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our body. So, like Carl Sagan said that the space is the biggest
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thing in atoms. There's more space than anything, So what's in the space.
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So the really revolutionary idea that they're now realizing in physics is that the
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space is full of a quantum field, a real, actual quantum field,
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where people can tap into it with their intuition and recognize information that we can't
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perceive with our thinking mind. So this feels connects all things, it's within
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and around everybody. And by tapping into this field, this quantum field,
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this unified field, we now have access to things that are beyond our local
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position in time and space. And that's the key thing with intuition, because
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I was like, how do I know something that's going to happen in a
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different time? How do I know what someone's doing when they're far away from
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me? Because with the quantum field, when we realize that our mind is
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connected through this invisible worldwide web, we can be aware of things that are
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happening in anywhere at any time. I'll share one personal experience. In nineteen
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seventy five, I was in the Air Force. I was stationed in Soul,
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Korea, and one morning I hear in my head, you got to
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reach out to your mom back in New York. Something is going on with
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her, and you have to reassure her that it's going to be okay.
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And I always listen to that voice whenever it came, differentiated from the ego
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voice which shouts. This was that soft, quiet voice that sometimes referred to
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as the soft still voice within. And immediately I called my mother back in
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New York. And in those days, for those who were old enough,
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we had wired telephones, and you've got a main extension and a remote extension.
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And my mother and my sister picked up the phone simultaneously, and I
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said, Mom, is anything wrong, And my sister goes, oh,
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my god, how did he find out? And it turns out that she
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was scheduled for major surgery the next day. And the voice said to tell
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her the surgery would be a complete success, she'd have a complete and rapid
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recovery. She was going to be just fine. She needed to hear that
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reassurance from me, And I'm grateful for that voice that asked me to call
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her. Wow, that is such a great story, and it's funny.
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I often use the example of when I'm giving examples like sometimes you just know
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you should call your mom. You just have this idea to call your mom
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because your mom needs you for something, because you're closely entangled with your family.
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So it's quite often that we have these experiences with the people that we
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love. So this is such a great example of your closeness with another person,
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how you have this strong connection with them. And the fact that you
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were naturally open as a child tells me that you still have that natural openness
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that allows you to receive these things. And good on you for trusting it
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and following it and not like like you said, letting your ego thinking mind
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just talk you out of it and saying that's silly, Well, that wouldn't
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make any sense. How could I know that? And that was six thousand
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miles between Korea and New York when I had that message. So just it's
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wonderful and I'm grateful for that. I'm grateful for that ability. I'm grateful
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for that connection, and it's something that I carry with me every day in
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my life. One other quick thing, talking about qualitable electronics, I was
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always fascinated by what's known as bioluminescence, and that's virtually that everything in nature
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emits light. You may not be able to see it with your regular eyes,
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but it emits light. And back in the early two thousands in Kyoto
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University in Japan, they were actually able to detect the human body giving off
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photons. And it inspired me to write a little quick song to a song
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to the tune of Prairi Zhaka, whereas boton, where is photon here?
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I am here? I am in your body quantum anytime you want them shine
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away? Wow? I love that? That is How old were you?
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How long ago was this? Oh? This is a I discovered. I
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read this about a year and a half, two years ago, and that
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little pok came through me. Then? Does you know? I love it?
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That I mean, And that's so cool because it really ties into that.
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There's a whole chapter in the book about this idea of light and how
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light is so important and we don't realize that we're actually we live in a
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whole world made of light. Right. The human body is made of light.
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It's just because we don't see it with our naked eye, It's still
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there. And that's what's so cool. When I was working talking with different
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physicists about this in the holographic universe theory. And if you boil down all
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of this stuff that we were talking about down to these smallest particles, we
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find out that these smallest particles, what are they actually made of? It
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turns out they're made of information. It turns this whole world that we see
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isn't made of matter and stuff and things. It's made of information that creates
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and programs these stuff and things. And guess what the information is embedded in
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and what it travels on? Light? So we live in this world of
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information and light. Sounds a lot like a video game, sounds a lot
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like these different ways that we understand that we can create realities holographically. So
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it really opens up the world to some really interesting concepts about what we're made
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of and how we can sort of continue to evolve to perceive more of reality.
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Your book, The Illumination Code Seven Keys to Unlock Your Quantum Intelligence deals
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with seven illumination keys, and key number one unlocks the gateway to our quantum
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dimension. What is the quantum dimension and how does it impact our lives?
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Yeah, so I understand the quantum dimension as our deep demands, as that
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microcosmic interconnectedness that we have with all things. It's what fuels our intuition.
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And when we understand that intuition is in fact a quantum phenomenon, that really
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changes the way that we view our mind and how our intuition works. So
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the everyday thinking mind, it's very linear. It's cause and effect. We
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come to conclusions, we deduct we're logical. But the creative mind, the
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imaginative mind, the intuitive mind, thinks a different way. It thinks instantaneously.
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It thinks in impossible ways of knowingness and feelings without any apparent source at
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all. So when you really, when you look deeply at how the intuitive
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mind works, it turns out that it actually works on the quantum dimension as
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if it were a quantum function. So all of the impossible things that physics
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is showing us like entanglement. So your example with your mom is a great
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example of entanglement. It's the idea that two particles like this is proven.
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For those of you who don't know what entanglement is, this is a proven
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phenomena that all scientists in the universe agree on. That you have two particles
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when they're joined and bonded, you separate them. They go to the other
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side of the world, and they still communicate, they remain entangled. You
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spin one particle and suddenly, out of nowhere, the other particle starts spinning
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too. So they've been able to replicate this many, many, many times,
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and they see this happening now in different situations. So we also understand
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that this happens in the human body, the human mind, because you know,
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we're made of interconnected, entangled particles based on our you know, we
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entangle things based on our relationships, our thoughts, our feelings, the way
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that we're connected with each other energetically. So this kind of entanglement can affect
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us no matter where we are, and it's a really cool way of understanding
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how we're all really are all part of the same one. You say in
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the introduction that the universe is always speaking to us. How so, yeah,
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there's that and this idea of an illumination code. It's like a secret
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sort of code that's being projected by the universe at all times. It's embedded
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with all the things that are happening in the future, in the past right
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now. You know, there's really no such thing as time. We've learned
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another one of those big revelations of physics. You know, I like the
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quote I think by Neil's Bori says, if quantum physics hasn't profoundly shocked you,
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you haven't understood it yet. And that's the truth, you know.
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The thing of it's so cool about quantum physics is that it's not just this
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sort of boring science that's like explaining things. It's just it's revolutionizing the way
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we understand reality. And so we understand through quantum physics there is no such
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thing as time. Time is relative back to the Einstein idea of relativity,
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there's no real future and there's no real past. There's just where we are
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in this point of consciousness. So everything's sort of based around us relatively.
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We feel a future and we feel a past based on where we are.
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But really all of this stuff has already happened. It's already out there.
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All of the information of everything in potentiality that could happen is there, and
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it's all able to be drawn upon by our intuition. So we call the
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Akashak records perhaps exactly. I'm so glad you said that, because it's really
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really a modern day understanding of the Akashak records. So think about the Akacak
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records, say two hundred years ago, when it really started to come into
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form, and you know, we were really getting this idea of this hall
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of records, these books where you would go in and you could find all
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of the information about anyone's soul's journey or anything that's ever happened. But this
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was envisioned as an actual hall of books, a library of sorts. But
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think about that. Two hundred years ago, they didn't understand quantum physics.
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They didn't even know They couldn't even imagine the concept of computers or hard drives
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or the Internet, all of which seems now to be a much more accurate
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sort of comparison than books right there. Back then, books was the best
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thing they had to store knowledge. That's really what they had. Now we
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understand through electricity and through the sort of invisible cloud and hard drives that we
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experience in our work with the Internet and just daily life, it's much more
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akin to this invisible field that stores all this. So it's not really stored
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in any books in some chamber, in any imaginary place. It's stored in
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the field around you and within you, instantly accessed in all places by your
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intuition. You're talking about this concept that we have of time, and I
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love the old expression time is like a river. Wherever you are is where
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you put your dip your toes into that part of the river, and that's
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where you are. I love that concept. It's a great analogy. And
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when we start to really look at that and understand that there's this bigger picture
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right all around us, you can kind of see. Yeah, we can
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see right in front of us when we're in our like we're here as humans,
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we can see about three feet in front of us realistically, but our
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intuition can see three sixty in all directions. So yeah, we want to
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rely on that has greater vision. My guest is Kim Chesney, her brand
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new book, The Illumination Code, Seven Keys to Unlock your Quantum Intelligence.
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Kim, please share with our listeners where they can get your book, find
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out more about you and your amazing work. Yeah. So all my books
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are available in your favorite bookstores online everywhere, Amazon, Barnes, and Noble
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Indie shops, and you can get all of the information. I actually have
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some free book campaigning kits on my website and a free Intuition Awakening Guide if
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you want to check it out and just start exploring your intuition. My website's
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Kimchesney dot com and there's lots of goods there for you to get started with
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your intuition. And we'll be back with more of Kim after these words.
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destination on Living It. My guest this week is Kim Chesney. We're talking
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about our brand new book, The Illumination Code, Seven Keys to Unlock Your
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Quantum Intelligence. So we're talking before about entanglement. Now you say that one
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part of our body, let's say my index finger, that my index finger
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has the same information available to it as the rist of my body. Is
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that correct? That's a great analogy, and it seems crazy, right,
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we like, how is it possible that we have access to all this information
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everywhere and every part, But it does. And this is what happens when
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you understand the world as a holographic universe. So the idea behind I the
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holographic Universe, and Michael Talbot wrote this book I Don't Know like a couple
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a couple decades ago and really sort of popularized this idea of that really every
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little piece, every tiny little bit of the universe contains all the information in
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the universe like a fractal Right, so we have access no matter where we
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are. Our intuition doesn't have to go anywhere to work because we're instantly plugged
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in no matter where we are, because everything is in some sense everywhere.
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It's very mind blowing when you really go down the rabbit hole. But again,
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when we get into the quantum world, things don't quote unquote make sense
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the way this physical world does. So we have to understand it operates under
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completely different laws of physics, and somehow it works. We're not sure how
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it is, but the fact is there is a non local part of our
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minds that has access to everything everywhere, I remember in laboratory in high school
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that you could take and I would never do this anymore, but that you
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could take a while and cut the worm in half and the two halves would
26:03
exist simultaneously by maintain their lives. But I wonder if that is the information
26:08
is translated when you separate being and you have the information in both halves.
26:15
Yeah, so I do think, you know, there's something to that whole
26:18
thing. When you're you have a relationship with someone and you have this sort
26:22
of shared union, energetically you pull apart, right even if it's like we're
26:26
not chopping off our legs or anything like that, but energetically we're pulled apart,
26:30
but we still have those memories and those shared experiences which bond us.
26:36
And you know, I've had experiences. I opened the book with a great
26:40
story of entanglement. I start the book off. There's a few little personal
26:45
stories in this book. I made an intention to share some of some of
26:48
my own experiences this time, because usually, you know, I've kept it.
26:52
I've kept those things to myself, but I feel like they really applied
26:55
to you know, showing how these concepts work. So I start off with
27:00
this story of how really. I started out on this journey writing this work
27:04
and doing this work professionally in about nineteen ninety one, I think it was
27:10
when I was living in England and Gypsy read my poems and gave me a
27:14
fortune that included an actual date. She told me that in nineteen ninety four,
27:18
i'd be in a foreign court room and it was going to be stressful,
27:21
but I'd be doing something good, so you know, hang in there.
27:22
And I was like, what, that's like three years in the future,
27:26
and I'm like, in a foreign courtroom. That sounds like I'm going
27:29
back to America. I'm like, but who gives a date? That's like,
27:32
really, it takes a lot of confidence to give a psych a reading
27:34
a date, because if it doesn't come from true, you're there's no gray
27:37
area there, you know. So sure enough, didn't I end up in
27:42
nineteen ninety four on jury duty and sequestered for two weeks in the same year,
27:48
So like my mind was like, whoa, it's possible to see the
27:52
future. I don't know how she did it, but she did it,
27:55
and if she did it, can we all do it? Can I do
27:56
it? Right? So I started asking these questions, so going on.
28:00
I'm writing about this in the book, and as I'm writing about it,
28:06
all of a sudden, I get this friend request on Instagram or follow request.
28:12
Figure this out from the person that I went to see that gypsy with
28:18
thirty years ago, A friend, a long lost friend that I hadn't heard
28:22
from since I left England thirty years ago, hadn't heard from him thirty years
28:26
not a people. When I'm writing this story in the book finishing Up,
28:30
he reaches out to me at that exact same time when I'm writing about him
28:34
and our experience. So things like that, I'm still entangled with Robert,
28:38
even though we haven't spoken to each other. There was a part of us
28:42
that connected on another level. But even more interesting, we can be entangled
28:49
with our ancestors. We can be entangled with places. For example, I
28:53
dug a little deeper into my family history over the last couple of years,
28:56
and I found out that not only was my ancestors from that very same town
29:04
in England where I got that gypsy reading and that embarked me on this whole
29:08
journey, but that my great great great great great great grandfather was the mayor
29:15
of that town and it was his yeah, and it was his job to
29:18
bring in that fair that the Gypsy was at every year, and it had
29:22
been going on since the fifteen hundreds when he was when he was the mayor
29:26
there. So we're entangled in so many ways, but we don't see the
29:30
connections because we just don't have any way to put the pieces together. But
29:33
every once in a while, the piece is fit and we can see moments
29:37
like that, we're oh, yeah, there is an invisible synchronicity that's happening
29:41
in so many levels in our life. You know. It's interesting. I
29:44
think that applies also to soulmate relationships. People who are true soulmates have been
29:48
together many many times before, and they recognized that, even if they don't
29:52
recognize the physicality of the person in this lifetime, they recognize that energy of
29:57
being together before. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think we have different groups of
30:04
souls that we travel with in different capacities, and we definitely recognize people on
30:11
a social, on an energetic level in more ways than one. Like how
30:14
many times have you just met someone and you'd be like, oh, I
30:15
just instantly connected with them and we were just like Thicke as thieves because probably
30:21
on some level you knew each other before, and this was a pleasant reunion.
30:23
And then there's also the other things. You meet someone you're like,
30:26
oh, no, like I don't know about them, you know, and
30:29
you know there's somebody I'm going to stay away from. Our intuition knows these
30:33
things before our conscious mind does, and the other aspect. And I've shared
30:37
this with other guests before doing these shows, especially the last four or five
30:41
years. By the time these interviews are over, and these are people that
30:45
I've never met in this lifetime, consciously met in this lifetime. By the
30:48
time the interview was over, I said, these people are my sole family.
30:52
I have known them forever. Yeah, yeah, I definitely, I
30:56
definitely get that sense. And you're drawn to people from all over, right,
31:00
its just sort of maybe it's law of attraction to some degree, but
31:03
you know, using that those sort of commonality. But I think there's a
31:07
rich history with our souls and that we can come back from life to life
31:11
with our friends and with those who support in nurturess. Absolutely. Okay,
31:17
So we're talking about things that are in the past called metaphysical. Okay,
31:25
Scientists like things called evidence, something that's repeatable. Can you prove this over
31:30
and over and repeat this over again. My I had a friend, a
31:34
very very wonderful scientist. He said, you know, your experiences are amazing
31:38
and wonderful, he said, but I don't have evidence to establish and prove
31:42
that. What evidence is there of what we're talking about? Ah, yes,
31:47
now you're speaking my language because I agree. And now it was one
31:51
of my missions when I actually start an intuition lab, that's my school where
31:53
I teach and research and work with people to develop their intuition. So one
31:59
of our core values is finding evidence and finding validations and making records of these
32:04
things. So, first of all, we have the extensive body of human
32:07
experience throughout history. We've had so many people that have experienced these mysterious things
32:13
precognition, telepathy, you know, prophecy, remote viewing, new name,
32:19
and actual projection. I could go on forever. All of these mysterious supernatural
32:22
phenomena have been recorded historically, over and over again by multitudes of people all
32:28
around the world. So it's one of those things where we know something's going
32:30
on, not everybody's making this stuff up. So that's reason for exploration.
32:36
But then we go on even deeper and we want to start to say,
32:38
well, how do we actually validate our intuition. So what's really interesting about
32:44
intuition When you start to work with it, it gives you signs and synchronicities,
32:49
and intuition is actually very much learnable and very much repeatable and validatable.
32:54
So when you go into a class, you know, we'll have like,
33:00
for example, we'll do like an intuition session and someone will say something to
33:04
you about, oh, like I feel a sun around you and this bright
33:07
energy or something, and then you'll leave and you'll you know, you're you'll
33:12
just open up your phone and someone just sent you a sun emoji, right,
33:15
So you'll get these really cool validations from the outside world and the inside
33:19
world. And this happens all the time in intuition labs, so we get
33:23
it might not be it could definitely be scientifically validatable if we would actually put
33:30
a study around it. And I've thought about putting a study around it.
33:35
Maybe one day we'll do that. But the US government, it really gives
33:38
us everything we need to know if you want evidence of intuition. They put
33:42
together Project Stargate that ran in the eighties and early nineties for like about twenty
33:47
years and invested over twenty million dollars in this, and they worked with Stanford
33:51
Research Institute and the CIA or the DA, and they worked with just regular
33:57
people, artists, intuitives to create a expY program back during the Cold War,
34:01
and other governments were doing this too, But the fact that this went
34:06
on for so long and they had apparently had very good results shows that,
34:09
you know, somebody was getting good results. This is a real thing.
34:14
The US government is going to spend twenty million dollars on something that's not real.
34:17
So the answer really isn't to me, you know, can we prove
34:21
it? The answer is just personally experience it, and it's going to prove
34:24
it to you yourself. I had a reading of the Akashak records about twenty
34:30
years ago, was given to me as a gift, and everything that this
34:35
person shared hit one hundred percent with my life and she had no note way
34:38
of knowing me, had never met me. My stuff was not out on
34:43
the internet in those days, that type of thing that they could research it
34:45
somewhere else, and some of it was very personal. The second illumination key
34:52
shows us how to download this intuitive information from the non local field can you
34:58
talk about that and how it works? Yeah? Yeah, And you know,
35:00
it is very similar to the Akashak field reading or the Akashak record reading,
35:05
and it was something I had always been curious about my life of how,
35:09
you know, how does this happen? But we recognize that this field
35:13
is here and that all we really need to do to access is open up
35:16
our minds to receive it. And that's really the key thing. We don't
35:20
have to go sit on a mountaintop or get special PhDs or learn special powers
35:24
to access this field of information. We simply need to slow down. Slowing
35:30
down is so important because when we're busy in our minds going a mile a
35:32
minute, or we're just rushing around full of emotion, that still small quiet
35:37
voice of your intuition can't get through. So we really just need to slow
35:42
down and sort of open up and open up to receive and create more white
35:45
space between our thoughts. So those little gems of intuition insight, like even
35:51
like you talked about in your stories, just popped into your head, just
35:53
a rose in your head. So the real key with understanding intuition is it's
35:59
the thoughts and feeling and impressions that arrive out of nowhere. Right, So
36:02
we don't think our intuition up. If you're thinking processing something, it's probably
36:07
not your intuition. If you're trying to figure something out or solve a problem,
36:12
right, Intuition comes in a flash, It comes out out of nowhere.
36:15
It just drops into your mind, shows up into your mind because it
36:20
is really from nowhere. It's from the nowhere field, the everywhere field.
36:24
It's not a result of some sort of thinking process or outside stimulation. So
36:30
you want to open up and just let that field speak to you and that
36:34
inner voice speak to you, and it can guide you in so many ways.
36:37
Tell us about the four types of intuitive downloads you're right about in the
36:42
book. Yeah, so that's a really good follow up question because if we
36:49
want to download from the field, what we need to do is figure out
36:52
ways to get more of that information flowing. So in Radical Intuition, I
36:57
talk about the for intuitive pathways body, mind, and spirit, and that's
37:00
those are sort of the pathways that we use to download. But if we
37:05
want to open up those pathways, there's different ways we can do it.
37:07
And the first way is, you know, at night, RESTful downloads.
37:12
I always called dreams backdoor intuition, So you can get intuitive insights when you're
37:16
falling asleep at night. In your dreams, when you wake up in the
37:20
middle of the night, you might have a great idea. That happened to
37:22
Einstein a lot. He talked about its greatest ideas. You'd solve a problem
37:25
just wake up in the middle of the night and it would just arrive into
37:28
his mind. It's like, oh, that's the answer. So be vigilant
37:31
when you're falling asleep if you any little phrases pop into your mind, or
37:35
you wake up and you have an idea in the morning, well maybe I
37:37
should go do this. That could be your intuition. So really pay attention
37:40
to the information and insights that you get around sleep, around rest, when
37:45
you're when you're when you're sort of brain waves slow down to that delta,
37:50
theta phase, and all your thinking mind is out of the way. And
37:53
then the second way is it's aimless downloads. And this was I got that
37:58
term for Einstein. This is what he really called his genius time was the
38:01
time when he was aimless. He would sit on his rocking chair and just
38:06
rock and be still and be present, and it was in this space he
38:09
would create his thought experiments, his imagination would help him to solve problems,
38:15
or he would just let those sort of problems be solved by his intuition.
38:19
So going for a walk, taking a hot bath, meditating, anything you
38:23
do alone in the stillness and presence of being opens up this fertile space for
38:30
intuition to rise up in your mind and give you the insight and guidance that
38:32
you're looking for. And then the third type is inspirational downloads. This is
38:38
the great way if you're an artist or a creative person, you can intentionally
38:43
tap into your intuition by opening up those those sort of creative flow and getting
38:47
it into your zone and being inspired. And it's the great way for you
38:52
know, visionaries to come up with new ideas and for leaders to lead other
38:58
people. Instead of following other people, we follow ourselves. That's the beautiful
39:04
thing about inspiration and ingenuity and all of the stuff that comes with sort of
39:08
bringing our intuition into the world in a creative way. And then the final
39:14
way it's through an intentional download, and that's when we can sit down and
39:16
actually consciously practice and work with our intuition, and that's what we do an
39:20
intuition lab. You know, I have insight card decks which are also free
39:24
that I have a free insight Card practice generator on my website you can try
39:28
out. It's where you use these cards to open up a space for your
39:31
intuition to give you a message and train your intuition and learn the language of
39:35
your intuition. So we can create practices like working with insight cards or really
39:42
just journaling. Getting into our intuitive zone, listening to, you know,
39:47
the thoughts that arise out of nowhere and just intentionally tapping into that and developing
39:52
it is a great way to really awaken and a tune our intuition. I
39:58
get information through hearing that inner voice, that guy that I discussed earlier.
40:02
Some people do it through vision. These are called the Claire's, clare audience,
40:07
clairvoyance, to see, clare, sentience, to feel. Does that
40:10
come into play here also? Yeah, so I look at the Claire's,
40:15
I've sort of modernized the language, just like modernizing the language of the Akashak
40:22
records. I call the Claire's your five meta senses, because to me,
40:25
they're just the same senses that we have in the physical world, but instead
40:30
of responding to physical stimulus, they respond to energetic stimulus. So for you
40:37
being clairvoyant being or clare audient right listening, being able to hear things,
40:42
that would be your meta sense of hearing. So you can hear things,
40:45
you can hear them in your sort of mind's ear. It can sound like
40:47
a thought. It doesn't actually have to be an actual sound. It can
40:52
just be like, you know, like thinking of a song in your head,
40:54
right, It's those sort of things, Or it can be an actual
40:57
voice that you can hear. There's different ways that they can come through.
41:00
And it's the same thing with your vision and your meta sense and vision where
41:07
you can imagine something in your mind's eye, or you could actually have a
41:09
vision and see something right. So these are all sort of are ways that
41:14
we intuitively use our senses as opposed to physically using our senses. My guest
41:21
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41:25
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43:38
us about the role that vibration plays in the quantum field. Yeah, it's
43:44
a really important one, and we're realizing that we can really understand and relate
43:49
to our world, our whole world, in terms of frequency and vibration.
43:52
They talk about that is string theory and when you're looking into physics and science
44:00
these days, but really what it comes down to on a personal level,
44:02
and that's really what this book about. It's about translating all of these scientific
44:07
words and theories into personal experience and how do we personally experience this through our
44:13
human psyche and body, all of these concepts and physics. So it turns
44:16
out that vibration and frequency is how we actually are wired to connect to things.
44:22
So it's important with our intuition and to understand that everything is held at
44:27
this really high vibration place. Really curious. I'm doing some research now on
44:31
brain waves and how our brain waves actually relate to the kind of information that
44:36
we can download from the field. But I found that mostly we can understand
44:40
this intuitive information of the field is being held on a super conscious level,
44:45
like it's a little higher than our regular consciousness, which is why we can't
44:49
access it every day. We'll have sort of drop ins and moments where we
44:52
will touch into it or will show up. But I noticed early on when
44:57
I was younger that when I would have these most extraordinary experiences, when I
45:00
was happy, when I was in a joyful when I'd had a really good
45:05
day, And it started this sort of theory that you know, if I
45:08
want to connect to this stuff and have these things happen, I can try
45:12
raising my vibration. And it's really become a powerful practice to raise your vibration
45:17
and then tune into these higher frequency information levels. So when we're down and
45:22
we're low and maybe sick or like not feeling great, sometimes it's harder to
45:28
access that stuff and to be in that sort of high vibration state of mind.
45:32
And that's during those times. I think that's when we get that backdoor
45:37
intuition where we get the theta waves and the delta waves that can drop these
45:40
little moments of intuition into our mind from a subconscious so we can sort of
45:45
access it in super conscious or subconscious. The conscious zone that we're in most
45:51
of the time. The problem with it is that it's thoroughly dominated by our
45:54
mind, our thinking, rational, logical mind. So anything that tries to
45:59
come in is the mind immediately says that's nonsense, that doesn't make sense,
46:02
that's not rational. So we have to battle our minds. We have to
46:06
slow our minds down when we're conscious so to get to these sort of higher
46:09
frequency vibrational places. That's why it's so important to elevate our vibration in a
46:15
state of quiet and calm and peace and get that mind out of the way,
46:20
because that's the key. No matter what vibration we're on, we have
46:22
to get our overthinking, toxic monkey mind to just shut up for a little
46:27
while so our intuition can talk. You say in the book that the source
46:31
of all suffering is the illusion of separation from our inner dimension. Please tell
46:37
us more about that. Yeah, I mean, that's like the biggest trick,
46:40
right, The biggest illusion is that we're all separate from each other.
46:44
We're lonely, you know. We so many of us live and feel like
46:49
we're not connected or not understood or totally isolated. But in reality, the
46:54
true thing is we're all so connected in these ways that we just can't see
46:59
your feel with our physical body. So it really can be a comforting thought,
47:05
it can be a comforting experience, and it's really moving I think our
47:08
culture towards unity and towards collectiveness and understanding each other instead of working against each
47:15
other. So that's what It's such a beautiful thing to know that we are
47:19
really all part of one interconnected unit. There was a wonderful lyric from the
47:24
Moody Blues many years ago. It was from a song called with the Eyes
47:28
of a Child that said, with the eyes of a child, you will
47:30
come out and see that your world spinning round and through life, you will
47:35
be a small part of a whole of a love that exists with the eyes
47:38
of a child. You will see, we really have to get back into
47:42
that childhood mentality, don't we. Yeah, we really do. There's a
47:45
magic there and I think when you look back on the children, the whole
47:49
world was full of magic and wonder and adventure, and we just we recognized
47:53
it. And it's like life just beats it out of us. So it's
47:57
like we're going to bring up lines from the eighties. We'll bring up a
47:59
line from The Breakfast Club when Ali Sheety's character says, when you grow up,
48:04
your heart dies. Well, it's kind of true, even if it's
48:07
not emotionally. We were just taught to like desensitize ourselves to all the magic
48:13
and wonder of life, and our intuition helps us to rediscover that and know
48:16
that there is so much cool stuff out there, and it's so much magic
48:21
yet to be discovered. So we have to click our heels together three times
48:23
and say, there's no place like home, There's no place like home,
48:28
There's no place exactly. What is the most important thing that someone who wants
48:35
to connect with their inner guidance needs to know? Well, it's first of
48:38
all, just to know that it is real. This is something that is
48:42
a very real part of you. Don't let the world tell you that it
48:45
doesn't exist or that it's not real. So really, you know, send
48:49
an attention to recognize and honor those nudgets that come from within and to make
48:53
it part of your life, because it's really as simple as opening up to
48:58
it and then learning to trust it and follow it. That those are really
49:01
the keys with intuition. You don't have to go to get to school for
49:05
thirteen years and get a PhD to use it. You don't have to be
49:07
born with superpowers. You really just have to open up to it, learn
49:12
to trust it, and then follow it. And that really is the recipe
49:15
for living your best life, your highest path, your happiest life, and
49:20
for finding the joy and really the expansion of consciousness that lets us find fulfillment
49:25
on our life path. How can we begin to recognize those signs from the
49:30
universe in our daily lives. Well, that's one of the cool things about
49:35
intuition is that once you start to really tune into it and give it attention
49:39
in your life, a conscious place in your life, you'll start to see
49:43
it showing up around you in at manifesting as signs and synchronicity. And again
49:49
this is all part of this concept of relativity. We say there's an inner
49:52
world and an outer world, but really there's not. It's again a point
49:57
of consciousness. It's relative. All of it is one. The inner world
50:00
in the outer world is all the same. So we can get intuitive guidance
50:04
from the quote unquote inner world through these thoughts and feelings and nudges and insights,
50:07
but we also get it from the outside world in terms of signs and
50:12
synchronicities and coincidences and all of these wonderful things that give us validation of the
50:19
magic and wonder of this interconnected life. I have been blessed with a life
50:24
filled with synchronicities, and every time something presented itself, I had three options.
50:31
I could dismiss it out of hand. I could say yes, but
50:36
not right now, perhaps in the future. Or I could say yes,
50:38
exclaiming it with a capital why. And every time I used that capital why
50:44
and said yes, the next one would come, and the next one would
50:46
come. That's part of this work, isn't it. Yes, Absolutely,
50:50
you're inviting the universe to be part of your life and to expand your consciousness
50:55
to recognize these things that we miss when we're sort of living our unconscious lives,
51:00
doing our nine to fives, watching TV, going to work. We
51:04
get tunnel vision when we just open up to that little bit more of seeing
51:07
all of the magic and wonder that's out there waiting to show itself to us.
51:13
We invite it into our life and we get more of it. And
51:15
you know, it's the point where like just like looking a great example of
51:17
it. As people talk about angel numbers. You look at the clock,
51:20
it's one, one, one, three, three three. This is a
51:22
good measure of your intuition. You can pick something. It doesn't have to
51:25
be the angel numbers, but the any angel numbers are great for them.
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You pick something like that and you say, oh, okay, it's one
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to eleven. I noticed that that was pretty neat. That was sort of
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a synchronicity. And then you're really doing your intuition work and you see two
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two too, and then you see three, three three. I see it
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like five times a day. I never used to see it when I was
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younger and I was just sort of busy living my life. I would never
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see those things, and now I'm tuned into it. I see these recurring
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number patterns everywhere I look. We see them on the highway, we see
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them on license plate numbers. They show up everywhere as these little validations.
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Because intuition is really about what you notice, right, we don't realize that
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it's about your attention. So it's not that all these things just are magically
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showing up. It's your intuition is guiding you to look at the clock at
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that moment. That was an intuitive nudge that said, hey, what time
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is it, and you look at the clock. That's what it's about.
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It's showing that you're listening to those nudges, and those little nudges can give
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you validations by showing you things all around in your life with these messages and
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signs. Tell us about your intuition. Lab groups, Yeah, they're so
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much fun and if anyone's interested out there in playing with their intuition, exploring
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their intuition, opening up to that inner dimension. We do group work and
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our intuition classes. I also have remote classes and self study classes. But
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what's the real heart of this group is the group work. And we work
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together because when you work in partners and groups to practice your intuition. You
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get the best validation, you get undeniable evidence of your intuition. I knew
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something about this person that I had no way of possibly knowing. I don't
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even know them, they're strangers, I've never met them in and yet I
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knew this was happening. So this online forum is such a beautiful place to
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get validation from your intuition and receive insight. We give and receive insight intuition
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with each other constantly, so it becomes this sort of community of inner awakening
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that has just just been wonderful. And it's grown over the past seven years,
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and I've had students that have been here from the start for seven years
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and new students coming in, and it's just such a wonderful sort of supportive
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community for people who are really passionate or curious about what's possible with their intuition.
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What would you like readers to take away from the Illumination Code? So,
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yeah, my goal with writing this was really helping them to understand that
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we live in in a meaningful world with a deep dimension that guides us at
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all times. So my hope is that it opens people's eyes to the really
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more meaningful, deeper nature of life and allows them to reconnect with that feeling
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of magic and wonder that we live in a universe. We've just started to
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explore the inner frontier and there's so much more out there, and I would
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love to share that with people and be part of a movement to really understand
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what's possible with the power of intuition and what are some of the things that
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you do within the Intuition Lab. So yeah, So we have quarterly programs
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and we do everything from you know, working on our own intuition to heal
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and find healing within ourselves, to practicing impossible things like remote viewing and past
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life exploration, and we do daily, we do weekly. Whenever we meet,
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we always do intuition card practice in exchange and give each other guidance.
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So it ends up being this real journey, you know. I've created a
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one year journey out of it, because it's something that goes so deep where
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people gradually sort of unfold different layers of themselves intuitively and learn more about their
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life's path and the path of their life that's even pre existed, this life
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and their soulmates. The people that have traveled with them, so it's really
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exciting to see all the cool signs and synchronicities that arise through our group work
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together. My guest is Kim Chesney, her new book The Illumination Code,
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Seven Keys to Unlock Your Quantum Intelligence. Kim, one more time, please
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share with our listeners where they can get all of your books and find out
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more about you and this amazing work. Yeah, you can come to my
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website at Kimchesney dot com or you can learn more about the school at intuition
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dash lab dot com. And in both places we have free bonus kits for
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the books and free guides to get started, as well as insight cards that
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you can play with. And also the books are available through Amazon and wherever
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great books are sold correct exactly and anywhere that you like to buy books,
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you should be able to get them. And if you have a local bookstore,
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please patronize them, please please please. They're a dying breed and we
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need to support them and go in and say do you have Kim Chesney's The
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Illumination Code, And if they say no, say please get it for me.
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I want that book, right, yes, yes, yes to all
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of that Kim, it's been an absolute pleasure. Let's not wait three more
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years before your next appearance in the Destination are Limited. Thank you so much
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for joining us and sharing all this amazing work. Thank you, Victor,
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and thank you for joining us on Destination Unlimited. I'm Victor the Voice Furman.
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Have a wonderful week.