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Doc says Roki Sasaki needs a 3rd pitch, Mets "corporate" clubhouse, Yankees eyeing Goldschmidt reunion? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: No fresh signings in the past twenty four hours, but
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  Speaker 1: we did get some news from the league. It's not
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  Speaker 1: crazy big news, but it's news. The trade deadline this
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  Speaker 1: year will be on August third, Monday, August third, a
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  Speaker 1: little bit later than usual because we have the weekend, Ajane.
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  Speaker 1: We do not want a trade deadline over the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: and I agree with that. That is one of the
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  Speaker 1: biggest days of the year for the FT network.
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  Speaker 2: But what happened when it used to just fall on
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  Speaker 2: July thirty first and it fell on a weekend? Did
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  Speaker 2: anybody care or did we just not care then?
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  Speaker 1: We didn't care then? And now we are smarter as
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  Speaker 1: a sport?
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  Speaker 2: Got it? Got it?
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  Speaker 3: Are we?
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  Speaker 2: Though? We're smarter as human species and we're smarter as
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  Speaker 2: baseball people or slowly.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe not, I retract my statement. We're smarter about some
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  Speaker 1: things and we are definitely dumber about other things. True
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  Speaker 1: as a sport.
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  Speaker 2: True. Anyways, it's good, Listen. That means that I don't
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  Speaker 2: have to work an extra day in order to cover
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  Speaker 2: the trade deadline, because I'll already be on unless it's
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  Speaker 2: a Friday, then I won't be on. So no, it's Monday,
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  Speaker 2: Oh perfect, Monday, so we don't think.
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  Speaker 1: They would do it Friday. I think it's got to
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  Speaker 1: be a Monday through a Thursday, and that's how they
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  Speaker 1: always adjust it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh because August third second verse Jube July. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I get it. I'm down with that. You know what,
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  Speaker 2: I'm down with this. I'm down with this as long
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  Speaker 2: as they don't put a trade deadline in the off
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  Speaker 2: season or as signing deadline the off season. I'm good
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  Speaker 2: with the moving trade deadline the season.
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  Speaker 1: I think message sent on that one. There will not
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  Speaker 1: be any movement on that front anytime soon. So you're safe.
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  Speaker 1: Let's charge charge. Dylan Hernandez, friend of the show, works
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  Speaker 1: for the California Post, which is a new publication, and
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  Speaker 1: he did an exclusive sit down with manager Dave Roberts.
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  Speaker 1: One of the notable sound bites doc said that Roki
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  Speaker 1: Sazaki will have to develop a third pitch to be
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  Speaker 1: an effective starting pitcher, and then the article talks about
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  Speaker 1: the twenty four year old starter turned closer turned back
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  Speaker 1: starter who will once again show up to camp as
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  Speaker 1: one of the team's great mysteries. Heyj what do you
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  Speaker 1: think about Roki Sazaki trying to figure out a third
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  Speaker 1: pitch at twenty four years old, and the backup plan
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  Speaker 1: that he could be a very effective reliever if it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't work out.
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  Speaker 2: It's only if only a show talked about this when
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  Speaker 2: they first signed him, thinking, Man, I wonder how he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be, how he's gonna be since he only throws
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  Speaker 2: a fastball on a split, and when he throws as
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  Speaker 2: fastball and split, they're not strikes a lot. If only
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  Speaker 2: we had know of a show that had mentioned this,
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  Speaker 2: and now he needs a slider break involved hmm. Strange
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  Speaker 2: good though that he worked out as a closer, because
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  Speaker 2: now that they have Edwin Diaz, they can't use him
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  Speaker 2: as a closer and Tanner, Scott and everybody else at
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  Speaker 2: the back ano their bullpen. So we'll see what happens. Well,
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  Speaker 2: let's not forget he was hurt most of last year
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  Speaker 2: and he was in Triple A for most of the
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  Speaker 2: year until the end, so they have options. But this
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  Speaker 2: is maybe why teams No, I'm just kidding. Every team
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  Speaker 2: wanted this guy, so it wasn't that they just I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know. It's an interesting comment from
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  Speaker 2: Dave Roberts's close to spring training.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's definitely a good reason for
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  Speaker 3: exactly what I said last year. This guy will spend
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  Speaker 3: some time in Triple A. What are you gonna spend
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  Speaker 3: time in Triple A doing figuring out another pitch. It's
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  Speaker 3: okay that Roki Sasaki, who every team wanted, can learn things.
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  Speaker 3: You can learn things at twenty four years old. Now
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  Speaker 3: can he figure out how to throw a slider that
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  Speaker 3: isn't a below average spin, below average horizontal break like
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  Speaker 3: the ones he was throwing this year? Yeah, obviously, does
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  Speaker 3: it need to be a elite slider?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 3: And this is one of the things that when you
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  Speaker 3: talk about analytics and you talk about game plans nowadays,
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  Speaker 3: how they build them.
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  Speaker 2: What is his best pitch?
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  Speaker 3: It's the split fork ghost fork not ghost fork, but
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  Speaker 3: the fork ball thing. I mean, it's ridiculous. It's essentially
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  Speaker 3: a knuckleball. It wasn't enough, it wasn't enough strikes for
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  Speaker 3: him to have consistent success in the big leagues. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: throws one hundred miles an hour. But then again, so
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  Speaker 3: does everybody else. So to me, the slider doesn't need
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  Speaker 3: to be this elite wipeout slider. It just needs to
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  Speaker 3: be something that goes off of this plane, it's all
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  Speaker 3: up and down for him. And if you take away
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  Speaker 3: the fact that hitters don't need to look east and west,
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  Speaker 3: it makes your job as a hitter so much better.
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  Speaker 3: You just have to stay back through the middle. If
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  Speaker 3: it goes east and west too, like a slider would
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  Speaker 3: or some type of sinker which I don't think you
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  Speaker 3: would throw, it would be it would It would add
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  Speaker 3: to his arsenal. But it's okay. Like this team has
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  Speaker 3: a lot of starters. If he goes to Triple A
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  Speaker 3: and works this out and figures it out and builds
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  Speaker 3: his innings up to make him a starter, that can
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  Speaker 3: be depth for them.
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  Speaker 1: I'll say it again, he's only twenty four, so he
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  Speaker 1: could develop that slider or maybe even the.
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  Speaker 2: Notes you make Scott, what's he making this year?
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  Speaker 1: Not much? I mean the league minimum with the signing
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  Speaker 1: bonus that he has, but league minimum in terms of
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  Speaker 1: his MLB salary.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So guess what guys go to Triple A
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  Speaker 2: all the time that were making league minimum, right, Kratzy,
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  Speaker 2: I know you did it. I know I did it.
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  Speaker 2: When I was making league minimum, I went down to
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  Speaker 2: Triple A and had to figure some things out, But
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  Speaker 2: it's not a knock on him. It's a learning process
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  Speaker 2: and figure out a Listen, how many I know, I know, Kratzy,
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  Speaker 2: you play with some guys that couldn't figure out Why
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  Speaker 2: do you think we have the kick change now? Because
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  Speaker 2: guys can't supernate or pronate or whatever they need right,
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  Speaker 2: So now we have all these different pitches to try
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  Speaker 2: to help guys figure it out. Maybe he doesn't whatever
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  Speaker 2: this one is, whatever, the breaking ball one is that pronate,
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  Speaker 2: supernate whatever that one is, right, and he goes down
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  Speaker 2: there and they figure out some special gyro ball that
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  Speaker 2: dice case. I don't know, but yes, he definitely needs
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  Speaker 2: a third pitch if he's going to be a starter.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's I don't think it's as far.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's just far.
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  Speaker 2: Away as like, oh man, he just doesn't have a
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  Speaker 2: third pitch. He threw sliders last year. No he did.
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  Speaker 3: But when you have a pitch and you're trying to
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  Speaker 3: get a guy through an outing, the best of catchers
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  Speaker 3: are so it's so tough to be like, hey, I'll
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  Speaker 3: start working that slider in. Anybody can do it in
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  Speaker 3: spring training, but when it comes time to like win games.
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  Speaker 3: You're like, what am I gonna go with? Oh, he
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  Speaker 3: throws a knuckleball at eighty nine miles an hour. I'll
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  Speaker 3: throw that pitch. That splitter is it is a devastating pitch.
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  Speaker 3: I remember, I remember Joe Carrigan was our pitching coach
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  Speaker 3: and Vladimir Guerrero Junior, I mean, Vladimir.
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  Speaker 2: Guerrero was coming up.
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  Speaker 3: And Jackson, Steve Jackson was our pitcher, and he threw
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  Speaker 3: a splitter. He came out to the mountain and he goes,
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  Speaker 3: he goes, I want you to throw nine straight splitters.
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  Speaker 3: The only pitch I want you to throw. That is
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  Speaker 3: the best pitch, and you can throw against him, throw
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  Speaker 3: it the whole time. So there's sometimes when pitching coaches
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  Speaker 3: and catchers are like, well, this is the one. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: it didn't work, this is the one, this is the one.
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  Speaker 3: Before you know it, he's thrown ninety three pitches and
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  Speaker 3: he's thrown three sliders the whole game. That's not how
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  Speaker 1: by the way, does have the kind of movement where
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  Speaker 1: you could almost call it two pitches. I know you
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  Speaker 1: still need a third pitch, but it's special, right, didn't didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Remember last year?
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  Speaker 1: Left?
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  Speaker 2: Remember last year though when he one of his early starts,
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  Speaker 2: it might have been the first start he had, the
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  Speaker 2: one they had in tow Didn't he start the second
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  Speaker 2: game of the year. Did he starts a Moto and
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  Speaker 2: then Suzaki or yes, I thought, and he's okay, I
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  Speaker 2: did those games, but there were three in the morning,
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  Speaker 2: so I kind of forgot what happened. He threw a slider, remember,
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  Speaker 2: because he wouldn't throw a fastball for a strike, and
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  Speaker 2: he was really struggling with the split and everyone just said,
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  Speaker 2: we're not swinging at that split finger. So he actually
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  Speaker 2: threw some slider. So that's where this is a little
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  Speaker 2: bit confusing to me, because he has the ability to
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  Speaker 2: throw a slider. Maybe they just don't think it's that good.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. That's weird. That's the one thing, because
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  Speaker 2: I remember distinctly last year when his first start, he
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  Speaker 2: couldn't throw a fastball or a split first strike. So
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  Speaker 2: the one pitch that will Smith called was the slider
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  Speaker 2: because that was the one pitch he could throw over
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  Speaker 2: the plate.
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  Speaker 3: And analytically, yeah, they would they essentially looking at the
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  Speaker 3: charts that I'm looking at. Analytically, his slider is all
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  Speaker 3: blue and when you see blue, it means it's bottom
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  Speaker 3: twenty fifth percentile in the league as far as spin rate,
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  Speaker 3: velocity thrown, perceive, velocity at the plate, horizontal break, all
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  Speaker 3: those things. But he has it. When you're going into
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  Speaker 3: a star, you're saying, okay, well where does this guy's
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: Where does this guy's pitches match up against the other guy?
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  Speaker 3: Instead of saying or you say, well, I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 3: throw my strengths against this guy, and his strengths are
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  Speaker 3: that fork ball. That yes, Scott, it does move in
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  Speaker 3: either direction. But he to me the starts I watched,
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  Speaker 3: and it wasn't a lot of starts. I might have
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  Speaker 3: watched half it starts.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't able to control it like some Japanese pitchers
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  Speaker 3: are able to control, like the split, where they're able
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  Speaker 3: to you don't move it, so maybe it cuts a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more, or it breaks to the left, or
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  Speaker 3: it breaks to the right.
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  Speaker 2: His is so deep, so deep, and it's more like
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  Speaker 2: a fork.
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  Speaker 3: It takes a lot of the spin off and so
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  Speaker 3: he gets more action on it, but it's less it's
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  Speaker 3: less controlled. He's not one hundred percent sure which way
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  Speaker 3: it's gone.
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  Speaker 1: Here's some good news. The Dodgers don't need him right now.
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  Speaker 2: Good problem, great the Dogs, But the Dodgers of room baseball,
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  Speaker 2: scot stop it. They need everybody they want all, you
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: know what, just because they're mad. Now they're going to
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: go out and sign from er Valdez.
• 11:13
  Speaker 3: Breaking news, breaking news, and I forgot about it.
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they could definitely afford Zach Callen right now.
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they can afford anything. Actually, you'll find out later
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  Speaker 1: in our show. While why it's easier for them to
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: afford things than some others based on a little revenue
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  Speaker 1: sharing agreement. But I digress. This team has plenty of
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  Speaker 1: starting pitching help. You're heading into a season where arms
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  Speaker 1: should be healthy. I mean, we get guys that drop
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  Speaker 1: during spring training, but there's some depth there. They actually
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  Speaker 1: needed him in the bullpen last year. The problem for
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  Speaker 1: them was the bullpen, and he emerges as this out
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  Speaker 1: of nowhere closer for them and picked up valuable innings
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  Speaker 1: for the Dodgers in their playoff run. During twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: it looks like the bullpen is in better shape. Here's
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  Speaker 1: the starting rotation we're looking at right now. Yamamoto, Snell, Glass,
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  Speaker 1: now Otani Emmachian and Roki's on there. There are others
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  Speaker 1: that can be on there in that sixth slot. And yes,
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be a six man rotation when
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  Speaker 1: you have multiple pitchers from Japan who are used to
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  Speaker 1: that once a week deal. Otani is not going to
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  Speaker 1: pitch more than once a week. I imagine they're going
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  Speaker 1: to try and I don't want to say take it
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  Speaker 1: easy on Yamamoto, but definitely manage his workload throughout the season.
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  Speaker 1: They worked them pretty damn good last October and he's
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  Speaker 1: pitching bull speed in the WBC. And then of course
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  Speaker 1: Roki Sazaki is going to be monitored if he does
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  Speaker 1: end up in the rotation. But aj when you look
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  Speaker 1: at the relief pitching, they should be in much better shape. Also,
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  Speaker 1: that's not even considering that they could get a bounce back.
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  Speaker 1: Tanner Scott might look like himself again. Oh and then
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  Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz is lockdown in the ninth inning.
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  Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I mean he's been pretty good for the
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  Speaker 2: last few years for the old Metropolitans there in New York,
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, they threw him in there. The year before
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  Speaker 2: Tanner Scott was unbelievable. That's why they went out and
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  Speaker 2: got him and Blake Blake Trina. Still there isn't he
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  Speaker 2: last time I checked? And also, uh gosh, what's the
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  Speaker 2: uh Kopek? No Evan Phillips. Evan Phillips, Sorry I was.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why I was. Couldn't blake his name?
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  Speaker 2: But isn't he coming back to the guy that wouldet
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  Speaker 2: the ball goes this way and then this way? I
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  Speaker 2: mean they've they've they just have so much depth on
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  Speaker 2: this team and if oh yeah, and if they're in trouble,
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  Speaker 2: they can always bounce uh sorry, Uh, Evan Phillips is
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  Speaker 2: bouncing back from Tommy john so he's not there. But
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  Speaker 2: in Kopec's a free agent, so apologies. But they can
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  Speaker 2: always use rookie Sazaki in the bullpen. He proved he
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  Speaker 2: could do it if they need him to. So it's
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  Speaker 2: just another thing that the Dodgers have done where they've
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  Speaker 2: just added so much depth around him. They still had
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  Speaker 2: the left he's in Vessia right, and some of the
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  Speaker 2: other lefties they have going along. So this team's fine.
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  Speaker 2: Pitching wise, they're fine. Remember we went in the last year.
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  Speaker 2: They have too many starters and they needed every one
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  Speaker 2: of them to get through the World Series.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Ben Casparius is still pretty good out of the
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  Speaker 1: bullpen for them. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: When does Graderole come back?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he might be ready for
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  Speaker 1: the start of the season, but he's really struggled to
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  Speaker 1: stay on the field, so I don't know how much
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  Speaker 1: you can rely on him. Will Klein can pitch every
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: day for innings and innings. Right, he was their little.
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  Speaker 2: Hero in that marathon game Bonda. Right.
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  Speaker 1: They have a number of guys that are also going
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  Speaker 1: to come back throughout the season from injury. So who
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: is it River Ryan, Although I think they'll try to
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: make him a starter. There are a number of names there.
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  Speaker 1: It is an embarrassment of riches for the Dodgers, and
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  Speaker 1: they are playing a game where they know that. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to say, you know you're going to make
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs, but it's about as much of a sure
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  Speaker 1: thing for any team as we've seen in a minute.
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  Speaker 1: So that is why we've talked about them from an
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  Speaker 1: over under perspective, and it might not be the smoothest ride,
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  Speaker 1: but they'll make the playoffs, don't. I do think when
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  Speaker 1: you look at the roster it's incredible, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: automatically go, oh, yeah, these guys are going to steam
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  Speaker 1: roll to one hundred and ten wins. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: anybody would be surprised if we're in July or August
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  Speaker 1: in like, hey, who's starting on Tuesday for the Dodgers,
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  Speaker 1: who are they bringing up from the minor leagues? Because
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: of the fact that there could be injuries that pop up.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: The World Series hangover wasn't real for them for the
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  Speaker 1: first time in a quarter century. But I think that
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: had a lot to do with the fact that they
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  Speaker 1: almost had a different looking starting rotation from the year before.
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  Speaker 1: What was the carryover from the World Series twenty four
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  Speaker 1: to twenty five in terms of guys that were actually
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  Speaker 1: contributing in the World Series. Do you guys remember besides Samamoto?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Amamoto, I don't know. I mean who else the
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  Speaker 2: hitters were. A lot of the hitters were the.
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  Speaker 1: Same, right, But I'm looking at arms. Snow wasn't there,
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  Speaker 1: Glass Night wasn't healthy, Otani wasn't pitching, Nook he wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: There, Yamamoto, Vesia didn't throw in the World Series.
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  Speaker 2: It's in the World Series. Remember he had the personal
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  Speaker 2: thing mhm.
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  Speaker 1: But their rotation in twenty five was completely different in
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  Speaker 1: the World Series.
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  Speaker 3: That's why Dave Roberts solidified himself as the best manager
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  Speaker 3: in the game with those back to back not just
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  Speaker 3: because he won, but the fact that they won in
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: two completely different ways. Saying, how's this team gonna win
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: with no starting pitching done? How's this team gonna win
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: with no bullpen done? Like this year, he's gonna be like,
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: that's why he wants to do the Olympics. He's like,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: that's the only thing I haven't won yet. I'm sure
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: he's won. I'm sure he went and coached in winter
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: ball somewhere at some point.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Gavin Stone is expected to be ready for spring training.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: That's a good arm. There's a lot to like if
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: you're a Dodger fan. But we'll see. It'll be an
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: interesting mystery. What does Roki Sazaki do from a development perspective?
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: The only thing I feel like he and Dodger fans
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: and the organization should feel comfortable with is that he
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: is a major league caliber arm and he has proven
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: himself out of the bullpen at the very least. That's
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: a pretty good floor. High leverage reliever is his floor.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: We expect him to be a top end rotation, solid contributor.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: But if not, this guy's going to be special for them.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: And like AJ said, he's making the league minimum, so
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: it's a good little contributor to have on the roster.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he said.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: That's what he said.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: That's what he said.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: That's what he said.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: Uh, you know, uh, you know, I just got here
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: and I think that I gotta I gotta CRL have
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: to share the time with my teammates and you know,
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: team to about different ideas you know later about everybody coaches,
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: the organization genera.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: And then we can see that's Freddy Braalta a sn
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: why with that footage that was his intro virtual presser
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: and they asked him about an extension and he said TVD,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Fredday's a happy, go lucky guy. He's done the extension
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: thing before. I think if he shows up to camp,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: has a good time, they could start to have some conversations.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: The other part of the Mets conversation that we learned
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: this week was a good interview with Joel Sherman and
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: John Hayman talking to Carlos Mendoza, manager of the Mets.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Mendy was on our show the other day and we
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: talked about some of this stuff too. But Mendy believes
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: the biggest issue with the Mets club ass last season
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: was that they were too quote corporate and didn't celebrate
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: each other enough. I'm going to start with Krats here
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: because Kratz, you thought that they had too many gimmicks
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: two years ago. I actually think they didn't have enough
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: gimmicks this past season. A little fun, keep things loose, right,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: People don't all see the same thing. They're not all
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: on the same page about anything in life. On the
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: baseball field, right, I think it's fun to have some
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: natural distractions. Maybe they were missing Hose.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Glacias, Grimace, Grimis Primis Grimis.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Grimace, Jseglacias, the playoff, Pumpkin the like.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: They had a lot of gimmicks.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: And to say you're corporate, I've been on I've been
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: on teams that have been too corporate, too much like
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: that veteran. Hey, you know what it's all about my routine,
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: It's all about this. Some of the best teams you
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: play on, you have some young dudes that are like, Wow,
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: he's going.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Out right now.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: And then we're going out and we're playing a one
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: o'clock game tomorrow and he's hitting two dangers like running
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: around the outfield, like there's there's a level of there's
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: a level of immaturity that is needed. With maturity and
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: game gamerness, gamesmanship, whatever it is, it all comes down
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: onto winning and losing. Nobody was said they were corporate
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: had they just beaten the Reds out and made the
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: playoffs by one game instead of missing it by one game,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: like it's it's very It's like we're people saying this
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: stuff during the season last year and for Mandy to
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: come out and say this, that's awesome. Mendy's got a
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: good pulse on this type of thing. And I think
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: if he can say, hey, guys, like loosen up a
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: little bit. I get it, we're in the big Apple,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: but loosen up, like, let's make sure we are. We're
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: there for the boys, like no better view of how
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: much the Mets in twenty twenty four we're there for
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: each other. When you see the rotation, all the rotation, guys,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: somebody's starting and you know they have the numbers painted
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: on their face. Would some people say like me, would
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: some people say that's a gimmick. Yeah, But it's also
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: a show of hey, you know what, we're supporting our guys.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: We are here for everybody. Did you see that last ye? Now,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: because the Mets didn't make the playoffs, that's why he
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: didn't see it.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: You didn't.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I'm sure they had stuff they were doing, but they
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: were making this magical run in twenty four and everybody's like, wow, wow,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: they beat the Phillies. Oh man, now look at them.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: They're drawing on their faces so many stories. They stop
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: doing stories when you don't make the playoffs. So I
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: think part of it is that. But they clearly wanted
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: to change it because they've done a lot of changing
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: of this roster construction. In an area that I didn't
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: think they needed to change was the offense.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Gimmicks have to be skits have to be made organically,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: though you can't force it right, So you got it,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: they got They have to be organic in the clubhouse,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: they have to be organic in the dugout. You can't
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: say going into a year, we're gonna do this. You
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: see what happens. Something happens either early in the year
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: or in spring training that everybody gets on board with
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: and they say that's gonna be our skit, or someone
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: makes a T shirt or someone does something dumb that's
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: not offensive to anybody, and then the team rolls with
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: it and they stick with it, and you know what,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: if that doesn't work, then they go to something else,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: and if that thing doesn't work, they go to something else.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: And as soon as they find that thing and they
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: stick with it, and then the fans find out about it,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: usually later after it's already been a thing for a while,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: and it happens. How many teams are you on crats
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: where things happened Fans media never even found out about
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: until later on. And it was a thing in the
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: clubhouse forever. That was That was what was great. There
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: was inside jokes and things. I remember we were, you know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I would be on a team and Paul can Erico
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: and Burley and some of the guys who had been
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: around for the White Sox. We would say stuff in
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: the paper and nobody understood, but we understood what we
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: were kind of saying. It was a joke, and we
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: would be like, oh, who can we get to actually
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: report what we said and put this line in the paper? Right.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: It was just stuff like that, but it wasn't offensive.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: It was nothing we would just do it. And that's
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: what makes a team great, and that's what makes guys
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: have fun and get through eight months together.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: And twenty fifteen, when the Royals won the World Series
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: the beginning of the year, if you did an interview,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: you had to say because the one song that we
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: would play it was the.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Seventeen thirty eight. Hey was so hello, you know that.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: I don't even know what the name of the song is,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: but you had to say the number seventeen and thirty
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: eight in your interview, Like is that a gimmick or
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: is that just the boys spending eight to ten hours
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: a day and then going to hotels and going on
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: the road together and trying to accomplish a goal. That
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: kind of stuff comes up. It comes up at the
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: beginning of beginning of spring training. Somebody shows up with
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: a brutal outfit, somebody has a story, we're clowning somebody.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Whatever it is, that's how you build that team together.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: And so if Mendy said they were too corporate, maybe
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: they didn't spend enough time connecting, or maybe they just
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: didn't win as many games as they thought they were
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: going to, or the team was split because the position
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: players were like, great, it's the fourth inning and our
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: starting pitchers out again. We're winning seven to six, and
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: now we're losing nine to six. Now we're losing nine
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: to seven. All right, we got to carry this team.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: And maybe that's what's split the clubhouse and didn't allow
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Grimace or the next OMG or the next playoff Pumpkin
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: and all that stuff.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Trap Queen Betty Wap disagree. I think they should have
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: had gimmicks. They had them two years ago and they
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: actually were terrible.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: They probably did have them, we just didn't hear about
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: them because they weren't. They probably did have them, we
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: just didn't know about them.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: They didn't have them like they did in twenty four.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Well, no, that's because they were riding that emotion. Anyways,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Let's let's move on. Let's because we got some more.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I gotta go, Leo.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Every team's mid eighties, this is the dream, and you
• 24:45
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• 24:48
  Speaker 1: win total Detroit Tigers eighty four and a half over
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: under over.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I I'm taking over. I'm going over, you know what.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I'm taking over because they're gonna keep schooable and the
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: division hasn't gotten any better, so I think they go over.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: The White Sox got better, the Twins got worse.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: The Guardians didn't do anything, done anything. Royals are a
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: little better. Yeah, I mean, but the Tiger Tigers, you
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: know they're gonna say we got Kenley Jansen. I don't know.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, someone has to win this division with eighty
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: eight wins, and I'm gonna say the Tigers won't blow
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: a fifteen game lead this year.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Yep. They are preparing nicely for the regular season. Crats.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think I just don't see. I
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: don't see them being a five hundred team. And if
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: you don't, if you take the under, you have to
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: be solidified that they are five hundred team. I think
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: they took an absolute crater job in the second half
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: and still won eighty seven. So if you're running Arrek
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Scoogle out there for all of his thirty two starts,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: have a tough time believing you're going to.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Only win eighty four games. So I'm taking you over
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: It's still hard for me to believe that they essentially
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: did nothing this offseas and then they're not going to
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: get anything for Schoogle when he leaves, and this is there,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: push your chips all in year.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: One more starting pitcher, Yeah, one more starter.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe Lucas Giulietto was signing soon to hang out with
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: his buddy Jack Flaherty. There's plenty of good parts. I'm
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: not saying I don't like the team or just I
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: think I talk for many in Detroit when I say
• 26:22
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• 26:54
  Speaker 1: does that Yes Network show about the offseason. He's great
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: reporting on the Yankees, and he said there's interest in
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: the Yankees bringing back Paul Goldschmidt. What do we think
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: about that fit for the Yankees? Goldie is still really
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: good against left handed pitching. Do you feel like the Yankees'
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: roster is starting to become a lot more platoon oriented
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: old well, old too. That's been a thing for a while.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: But do you feel like it's starting to get more
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: platoonish where they're gonna have I mean they're gonna have
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: what if Goldie comes back, you might have half the
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: lineup change depending on the lefty or the righty. Some
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: teams do that and some teams don't do that at all. Right,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: so it felt like the Yankees used to be a
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: team where it's like mostly the same dudes as long
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: as they're healthy every day. And now if Goldie came back,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: you'd have Goldie. I mean, this is what they did.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I guess towards the end of last season. Med Rosario
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: is a platoon guy. Ryan McMahon is a platoon guy.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Who are they playing over because McMahon I think they
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: won his defense in there every day if I'm not mistaken. Obviously,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Kabiero is gonna play short and when Valpi comes back,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: they don't have a platoon option. Maybe he won't play
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: as much, but that's not platoon. Jazz is gonna play
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: every day, Judge, He's gonna play every day. Grishamans are
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: they gonna platoon Grisham in center field? And then when
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: the lefty goes, they're gonna have who played left field?
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Veingas you can't hit right handed, yeah, you can't hit
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: against lefties like he's.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Not catcher Austin Wells. They trade the platoon a little bit,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Ben Rice, they platoon. I mean, that's that's where Goldschmid's
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: role would be. Was when we face a lefty, we
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: let you play first. But here's the thing. I mean,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I know Goldie did okay in New York, but he
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: couldn't even go back to Arizona. We could have that
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: reunite and it feels so good right in Arizona. Maybe
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: because who's their first baseman, Peven Smith, he's left handed.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Maybe they could use Goldie there and we could have
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: the happy feels again for him and the Diamondbacks.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: I thought he should be in San Diego. We just
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: talked to Kevin Acey. I thought Paul Goldschmidt and Sandy
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Diego would be would be a better fit than other places.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's gonna go there. I'm not saying
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: he wants to go there or they even want him,
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: but I mean they're given him opportunity. They have a
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: they have a young they have a young lineup for
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: the most part that could fill in if they don't
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: want him to face righties. But I guess I wouldn't
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: add too much more.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Slow, So you would platoon cronin Worth in Goldie.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would give, I would give.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: I would give Goldie all the left handed at bats,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: and then cronin Worth still has still I mean, Cronilworth
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: still has value playing more than just first base.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, I know that I'm saying at first base,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: you could platoon cron I mean, we'll.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: See he's making a song.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: No, no, I'm not saying in the full time, but
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: There's probably Goldie in the platoon.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: When Goldie's playing first.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Goldie's gonna want too much money to do unless he
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: accepts the platoon role. And then you know, because if
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: you just say, hey, I'm a platoon role, a lot
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: of times you get some you get less money. And
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: San Diego didn't have any money. I mean, that's all
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: they're talked about, right, So would he accept less to
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: go somewhere? I don't know.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, and we just talked about you darbish giving
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: back fifteen or sixteen for this year. It hasn't happened yet, right, right,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: But I'm saying, I don't care.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Here's my thing about the you, Darvish. We we haven't
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: even really talked about this. He's just such a good guy.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: He's gonna give back forty five million dollars whatever he's out.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know what he's out the last three years
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: around there, right, he said fifteen. So he's just like, interesting,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I haven't earned it. I'm gonna give back forty five
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: even though I signed this contract. There's gonna be some
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: sort of a there's gonna have to be some sort
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: of a buyout, right, he says, Because first of all,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: let me say this too. As much we love the PA,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: the PA would not be happy if he said, I'm
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: just gonna give this back because I'm such a nice guy.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Like the PA would be like, who wha, whoa, whoa whoa. No, no, no, no,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: let's get your money. We signed a we signed a contract,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: and his agent would be like, hey, man, I get
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: my cut of that too.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: You.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe he is that good of a guy.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the problem is you're eliminating the essence of
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: a guaranteed contract. But it's for one player, and if
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: he doesn't want to play, it's not unprecedented. Gil Mesh
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: did it. We brought him him the other day. There's
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: a few other names. There aren't many, but there are
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: a few other names. Yeah, there might be an internal
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: battle going on. You darbish might be like, yo, I'm
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: rich and for me reputation wise and what I believe in.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think that I should be getting paid if
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not playing and I want to quit. And then
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: the other side, which is reps union the whole deal
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: is like, we don't like that. Ultimately, it comes down
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: to you. I think he can decide whatever you want. Starvish,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: but sounds like they're trying to figure things out behind
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: the scenes. I don't think it's going to be a
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: case like Anthony Rendon where they're still paying him the
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: money out there, just stretching it a little bit with deferrals.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: It sounds like there'll be a portion of this deal
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: that actually just gets mixed because he's not going to play. Right.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe they look at this year and say, hey, you
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: weren't going to pitch anyway, so we'll take this year,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: we'll defer it, and then the year after that, we'll
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: then get wiped. Something like that could occur. I'm just
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: throwing scenarios out there. We shall see. Michael Kadier was
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: another name that was just listed.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: By Mark Condempy.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Every situation is different, and that's why ultimately it's up
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: to you. You get to get to decide. And he's
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: already done it. It's not unprecedented. He was going through something
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: in his personal life and he gave back the four
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: million dollars during that time. Plenty of players don't do that,
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: so it's it's not unprecedented. While I agree with AJ
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: it is a crazy precedent that the PA, his agents
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: and other players do not want to like be up
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: against that standard.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: But ultimately it's up to you.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: True as in darbish, not as in darbish.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Back to what the original Hot Corner topic was was
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Paul Goldschmid the Yankees.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Cool. I mean, I think it's great again.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: We talked about sometimes some guys have earned some leeway
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: in getting more at bats, and I think if you
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: think Ben Rice is as good as I think the
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Yankees think he is, I'd like to see a few
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: more left Bill left at bats. I'd like to see
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: him because of where he's come as a hitter and
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: as a player, kind of coming out of nowhere, really
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: establishing himself, changing things when he was in the minor leagues,
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: to then get his shot in the big leagues. Take
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: advantage of his shot. To me, give him that challenge,
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: and you can have a guy who plays every day,
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: and to me, they could enhance that roster flexibility and
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: enhance that roster. Yeah, just the way that they can
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: deploy different guys. He can also catch.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: They really liked.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: I didn't like the way he moves around behind a dish,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: but the organization really likes how he receives. And we'll
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: see how those receiving numbers actually matter when the ABS
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: comes in. But there's a value there when a guy
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: can truly catch in the big leagues once every five days.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: But he's also playing first base. So you can give
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Austin Wells those days off against lefties if you're not
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: afraid of letting Ben Rice hit against lefties.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Goldie got one year twelve and a half. Last year.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I think he'd be looking at about half of eight
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: five to seven.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, Lane Thomas got more than that, and Paul
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: gold Schmith think Thomas.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: We're going to make a Lane Thomas compay half pics
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: on the age curve.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: I not six and a half million, and I think
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I think Paul Goldschmid. I'm just saying, based on what
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: free agency is looking like right now, I think I
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: think he would get I think he'd project to get more.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. Actually, I think the projections probably
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: have Lane Thomas doing more of this season. I'm talking
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: about what the front offices look at. The age curve
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: part is such a big deal. Right, Hotley has been
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: going down in one direction. I guess it's fair, not
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: in in production against left handed pitching, but career lo
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: slugin percentage all that. So if you're just wiping him
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: out and making him a platoon only player, I mean
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: the differential was large six nineteen ops versus right handed pitching.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: That's not good enough for a first baseman or a
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: DH and he's not doing that for the Yankees. Nine
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: eighty one against left that's good. But that's a platoon guy, right,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: that's a guy that's going to play just against lefties.