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Saints Training Camp Report: Is Barion Brown the Real Deal? Ross Jackson Breaks It Down · AFR Saints

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  Speaker 2: Ross Jackson. Where's our thing with the butter thing or
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  Speaker 2: the toast?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Ross Jackson? Butter ghast? So good?
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  Speaker 1: your workshop, mall and Ross Jackson. That was the Djjazzy
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  Speaker 1: Jeffkins thrown out of the house. Yeah, yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 2: The visual has to be there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like from the flower bed looking up a Jazzy
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  Speaker 1: jeff flying out of the house.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to know the story, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: story around that with the shirt. Have you heard the
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  Speaker 3: shirt story?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 1: Ross probably, but man, I'm just kind of old and
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  Speaker 1: that it's been a long time, all right, what's the.
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  Speaker 2: Store with shirt? Oh?
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  Speaker 3: It's super super simpl like. So my friend Seth Lewis
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  Speaker 3: actually just reminded me of not long ago, but the
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  Speaker 3: first time that they shot that, they threw him out
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  Speaker 3: of the house and he was wearing a certain shirt
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  Speaker 3: and so because they were just they just chose to
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  Speaker 3: reuse that footage so that they didn't have to stunt
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  Speaker 3: that over and over again. Every scene in which he's
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  Speaker 3: thrown out of the house, he's wearing that shirt leading
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  Speaker 3: up to the moment where he's thrown out the house.
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  Speaker 3: So if you pay attention, you know when he's going
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  Speaker 3: to get so like everybody have to stunt it over
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  Speaker 3: and over and over again in different costumes.
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  Speaker 2: That is there ever? Was there ever a scene with
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  Speaker 2: DJ Jazzy Jeff where he wasn't thrown out of the house.
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  Speaker 3: There was one to where he was thrown into the house,
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  Speaker 3: which was really funny. Uncle Phil it's mad at him
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  Speaker 3: and he says, jokes on you you can't throw me
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  Speaker 3: out of the house because I'm already outside, so he
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  Speaker 3: throws him into the house.
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  Speaker 2: That's why we have him here.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't want to get too hyped about Barry
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  Speaker 1: and Brown, but this is what everyone's talking about. So
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  Speaker 1: seven days into camp, how worthy is the hype?
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  Speaker 3: I think it's worthy. I think it's different, and I'll
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  Speaker 3: tell you a couple of reasons why. Number one, it's
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  Speaker 3: not a one trick pony situation.
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  Speaker 2: It's not.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, he keeps winning downfield over and over again. That
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  Speaker 3: was kind of the Mason Tipton hype for a little
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  Speaker 3: while out in LA. It's where it was just the
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  Speaker 3: constant connect downshield. But then there wasn't a lot in
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  Speaker 3: the short intermediate area. Then you look at maybe like
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  Speaker 3: the Immanuel Butler hype in the past, where okay, he
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  Speaker 3: was winning sort of these one on one situations as
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  Speaker 3: a big bodied receiver, but wasn't doing a lot underneath
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  Speaker 3: and had no special team's role. Then Butler, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I figured I wondered I wanted pulling that one out.
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  Speaker 3: How that one show I haven't referenced, but but ros.
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  Speaker 1: This is why people are skeptical, right anyway, go ahead,
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  Speaker 1: good goo.
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  Speaker 3: Ahead, And so so now you think about all all
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  Speaker 3: of those those elements of it. But then like barry
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  Speaker 3: On Brown, he's made plays in the short area with
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  Speaker 3: catch and run opportunities today because of the vertical threat
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  Speaker 3: that he poses. In a first team drill, he sent
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  Speaker 3: Kolid McKinstry backpedaling out of a play because Cooleid McKinstry
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  Speaker 3: has to give, you know, has to make sure he's
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  Speaker 3: not giving up the opportunity over the top. And then
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  Speaker 3: that gave barry On Brown the opportunity for like a
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  Speaker 3: fifteen yard comeback. So you saw a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: the intermediate area, him understanding how to utilize his speed.
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  Speaker 3: And then also you're seeing the big home run plays.
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  Speaker 3: And he came into the NFL with an already built
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  Speaker 3: in special teams role there, so it is a little
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  Speaker 3: bit different to me because he's checking all of the
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  Speaker 3: boxes as opposed to checking one singular box over and
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  Speaker 3: over again. He's kind of making all these plays in
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of different ways, and of course already has
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  Speaker 3: a special team's role caught down.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so Ross.
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  Speaker 1: That's my assertion here is that they drafted him knowing
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be the kick and punt returner because
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  Speaker 1: they were bad live they were twenty second in the
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  Speaker 1: NFL last year and kick and punt returns like, that's
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  Speaker 1: why they drafted him. The question is what type of
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  Speaker 1: role can he fill?
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  Speaker 2: Now?
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  Speaker 1: Jalen polk retirement kind of opens up a chair. What
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  Speaker 1: do we think could materialize here with Brown?
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  Speaker 3: As far as a role, Yeah, I think with him
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  Speaker 3: you have a couple of different things that you'd be
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  Speaker 3: able to do. Yeah, he could be your home run here.
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  Speaker 3: He can kind of serve a little bit of that
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  Speaker 3: Rashid Shahid field stretching role, which could include the ball
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  Speaker 3: going his way, or could include opening up a defense
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  Speaker 3: for an opportunity elsewhere right, clear out options, things like that.
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  Speaker 3: I also think that he could be really valuable for
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  Speaker 3: you in the slot, especially with the yards after catch ability.
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  Speaker 3: If you get the ball in his hands in space,
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  Speaker 3: it gets the opportunity to turn into a returner on
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  Speaker 3: offense and then be able to kind of pick apart
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  Speaker 3: and try to find some lanes. I think that the
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  Speaker 3: Saints have gone from being a team that we're consistently
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  Speaker 3: top five in or at least top ten and yards
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  Speaker 3: after catch to being a team that's typically bottom half
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  Speaker 3: of the NFL and yards after catch. He Noah Fan
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  Speaker 3: Juwan Johnson can all be guys that kind of help
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  Speaker 3: to further that moving forward, as can Travesy Chang Junior
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  Speaker 3: out of the backfield, and so I think offensively he
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  Speaker 3: ends up being somebody that opens up the field for
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  Speaker 3: you as a deep threat, but also can be a
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  Speaker 3: bit of a slot specialist to be sort of that
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  Speaker 3: quick twitch kind of receiver route runner that has the
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  Speaker 3: ability to be able to catch a pass, a five
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  Speaker 3: yard pass and turn it into a eight to fifteen
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  Speaker 3: yard gain with a little bit of work after the catch.
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  Speaker 1: So Ross, whenever something good happens in camp, you wonder
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  Speaker 1: is it because the the guy made the play or
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  Speaker 1: the guy on the other side of the ball stinks.
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  Speaker 1: That's just a natural thing when it's good on good
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  Speaker 1: right when the team you're watching and you're going to
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  Speaker 1: practice Tyler Shuck throw two picks today? Was it because
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck stinks or because the defenders made good plays?
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  Speaker 3: In one instance, it was because the defender made a
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  Speaker 3: good play. In the other instance, it was just a
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  Speaker 3: game situation thing. So we always talk about how not
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  Speaker 3: all interceptions are created equal, and this is a really
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  Speaker 3: good example of it. The first interception that he threw,
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  Speaker 3: which went to Koulaid McKinstry, was an instance in which
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  Speaker 3: in the red zone on a first down drill or
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  Speaker 3: first down play, Tyler Shuck scrambled out to the right
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  Speaker 3: side of the field and he went to throw the
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  Speaker 3: football away out of the back of the end zone,
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  Speaker 3: didn't get enough on it, and koula Aid McKinstry, And
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  Speaker 3: this just kind of speaks to what the mentality of
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  Speaker 3: the defense has been so far this offseason, or at
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  Speaker 3: least throughout training camp. Instead of Kulaid mcinstry just watching
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  Speaker 3: the ball sale into the end zone, he thought that
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  Speaker 3: maybe he could potentially get a fingertip on it or
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  Speaker 3: a hand on it, and he did so he leapt up.
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  Speaker 3: He ended up getting a fingertip on it and tipping
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  Speaker 3: it back to himself and getting the interception. So Lesson learned,
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  Speaker 3: if you're going to throw the ball away, you got
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  Speaker 3: to put a little bit more mustard on that thang
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  Speaker 3: and get it out of here, so right, you got
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  Speaker 3: to get that figured out. The second interception was one
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  Speaker 3: to where it was a third and four with four
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  Speaker 3: seconds left and a simulated two minute drill down for
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  Speaker 3: you got to put it up and give somebody an
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  Speaker 3: opportunity in the end zone to go out and make
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  Speaker 3: a play. And the player that made a play happen
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  Speaker 3: to be Quincy Riley and not one of the receivers,
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  Speaker 3: and so you know, it's two interceptions. There are a
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  Speaker 3: couple of interceptions that you can deal with in a
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  Speaker 3: practice situation. Certainly an interception you can deal with of
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  Speaker 3: just like, hey, I got to put the ball up
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  Speaker 3: and give a guy an opportunity to go out there
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  Speaker 3: and make a play. Quincy Riley makes a play, it
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  Speaker 3: sets up an opportunity though for Tyler Schuck to be
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  Speaker 3: able to kind of come back on Saturday with a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of a chip on his shoulder. That'll be
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  Speaker 3: interesting to see. But overall, I don't think there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of concern to be had around this particular type
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  Speaker 3: of two interceptions.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, the full practice report is up. You can read
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  Speaker 1: it for free at Louisiana sports dot Net. As always,
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  Speaker 1: very detailed that Ross does for us. You can watch
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  Speaker 1: or listen locked on Saint podcast or YouTube for free.
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  Speaker 1: Any other takeaways Overarchy takeaways from day seven.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, tough day in the kicker category for Charlie Smith
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  Speaker 3: missed three kicks in a row, one to thirty nine,
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  Speaker 3: one from mid forty, one from fifty one, and typically
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  Speaker 3: you kind of, you know, take a kick from extra point,
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  Speaker 3: then you back up a little bit, then you to
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  Speaker 3: back up a little bit, then you backup a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: This one, after he missed three in a row, they
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  Speaker 3: actually moved him forward back to thirty nine and had
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  Speaker 3: him rekick from thirty nine, rekick from fifty one. He
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  Speaker 3: made both of those, but a three of six day
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  Speaker 3: for him. His first rough day. Opportunity for him to
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  Speaker 3: respond will come on Sunday. Tanner Brown will kick again
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  Speaker 3: on Saturday. The defensive line, particularly the edge rushers, continue
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  Speaker 3: to be really really impressive to watch. Tyree Wilson really
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  Speaker 3: seems to be coming alive here past couple of practices,
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  Speaker 3: which is really good news for the Saints. First of all,
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  Speaker 3: to get somebody of that bast status, that length, that size,
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  Speaker 3: you know, cooking in the defense to add to guys
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  Speaker 3: like Chase Young, Cam Jordan, Carlgreeners who have continued to
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  Speaker 3: impress here throughout camp. But he's feeling really good and
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  Speaker 3: you can see his confidence building. Anthony Jennings on the
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  Speaker 3: other side of that, has been really outstanding from the
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  Speaker 3: run defense side of it, of course, a place where
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  Speaker 3: the Saints would love to see some improvement. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he came in as a guy that was considered to
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  Speaker 3: be one of the NFL's best edge setters. He's shown
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  Speaker 3: that year so far throughout practice and I'm really really
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  Speaker 3: intrigued by, Like, not a lot has gone well for
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  Speaker 3: the Saints when it comes to red zone offense in practice.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see how that continues to develop. But the run
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  Speaker 3: game looks pretty effective there, and that's something that I
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  Speaker 3: think would help them in a situation in which you're
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  Speaker 3: building upon a drive progression as opposed to a scenario
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  Speaker 3: or an environment like a practice environment where you run
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  Speaker 3: this play, reset, run a different play, reset, and run
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  Speaker 3: a different play. That run game could be really really
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  Speaker 3: beneficial for them if it looks in practice and execution
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  Speaker 3: in game the way that it looks here throughout practice
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  Speaker 3: so far at.
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  Speaker 2: Ross Jackson, NOLA.
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  Speaker 1: That's where you can get him on Twitter and read
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  Speaker 1: for free over at Louisiana Sports dot Net. Listen or
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  Speaker 1: watch for free locked on Saints. Make sure you get it.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, dude, We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you by talking to you soon