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Chuck & Buck 2-2 Hour 4: MMQB with Mike Holmgren and Hugh Millen · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Grin and Hugh Millin. Here's Chuck and bun Oh.
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Speaker 2: Not just any Monday morning quarterback with Mike Holmebrin and Humelling.
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Speaker 2: It is super Ball Wake and we are live here
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Speaker 2: in San Francisco on Radio Row counting down the seconds.
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Speaker 2: Mark James will follow us, Softy and Fain a little
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Speaker 2: later on this afternoon and for this. Oh my gosh,
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Speaker 2: he's missing out on the best time of our lives.
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Speaker 2: As we get things started here on Chuck and Buck
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Speaker 2: here on a Monday morning, and of course we've got
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Speaker 2: our Monday morning quarterback session with Hugh and coach Hugh's
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Speaker 2: witness right here at the set coaches back in Seattle
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Speaker 2: with Ashley. Are you really regretting not being with us?
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Speaker 2: I mean, Fame needed a drinking buddy last night, Coach.
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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I do miss I do miss being
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Speaker 3: with you. I really do. H I've been to a
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Speaker 3: number of those things and it's exciting week. It's a
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Speaker 3: it's really a fun week. And uh, I hope you
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Speaker 3: guys have a great time. I'll tell you what. I
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Speaker 3: came into the studio today. Yeah, and I came into
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Speaker 3: and and and you weren't here, and Bucky wasn't here.
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Speaker 3: And I sat down and I went across to your seat. Oh,
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Speaker 3: you're in mice No, no, no, no. I went across
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Speaker 3: just to get the feel of it. Oh, And I said,
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Speaker 3: I can't stay here. I cannot stay here. So I
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Speaker 3: came back and sat across in my seat. And that's
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Speaker 3: where it sits right now. It was fun for a while.
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Speaker 2: I want you to sit in my seat because I'm
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Speaker 2: at the super Bowl, where you know where you have
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Speaker 2: belonged your entire life. So we can just trade places
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Speaker 2: here for once, you know, I'll try to. I'll tell
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Speaker 2: everybody I'm Mike Holmgren. You tell everybody back in Seattle
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Speaker 2: you're me. And I think that's a really fair.
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Speaker 3: Trade, you know what. I'll think about it. I'll think
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Speaker 3: I'm coming in tomorrow. Then maybe I'll come in tomorrow. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you could join us. It's great to
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Speaker 2: have you with us. And it is a great down here.
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Speaker 2: We're having a good time. And here we are sitting
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Speaker 2: here on only a Monday. So when you think of
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Speaker 2: super Bowl, please tell me you remember the good and
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Speaker 2: not that one experience.
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Speaker 3: You know what, you do remember the good, you absolutely do,
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Speaker 3: But the tough experience sticks with you, you know what.
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Speaker 3: And I I'm over it, you know.
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Speaker 4: No, you're not.
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Speaker 3: I think I'm over it.
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Speaker 4: You are not over it.
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Speaker 3: Let's not talk about it. Can we not talk about it? No?
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Speaker 3: But that's the thing. That's the thing you think about,
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Speaker 3: and it sticks with you and you think of what
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Speaker 3: you could have done, and and you know, what but listen,
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Speaker 3: when you win one, it's it's special. It is really cool, Mike.
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Speaker 5: The league seems to have settled into this calendar where
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Speaker 5: there's two weeks between the championship games and the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 5: There was a time where many of the Super Bowls
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Speaker 5: there was just the one week. What what do you
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Speaker 5: have a thought about the pros and the cons? I mean,
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Speaker 5: here we are on a Monday. You know there's there's
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Speaker 5: been the build up already for over a week, and
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Speaker 5: and obviously we have nearly another week. How does that
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Speaker 5: impact the coaches, different players? Do you do you look
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Speaker 5: for signs for for how it may affect guys adversely
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Speaker 5: and try to curtail any any of that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think, Well, I was a two
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Speaker 3: week person. I never had to do it in one week,
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Speaker 3: and I was trying to figure out, after having done
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Speaker 3: it in two weeks, how you could possibly do everything
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Speaker 3: that goes on in one week, and that includes families, travel,
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Speaker 3: all sorts of stuff, not necessarily the football stuff, but
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Speaker 3: everything else that goes with it. So I thought two
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Speaker 3: weeks was important because then you can you can dedicate
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Speaker 3: the football time the football time, and then when the
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Speaker 3: time comes with things change when the families come in
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Speaker 3: on Thursday, and and and the different things radio row
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Speaker 3: and all the different things that goes on for players
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Speaker 3: when they come in. I think you needed the two
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Speaker 3: weeks and now was it a I didn't I'd ever
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Speaker 3: since it was a problem. I thought it helped you
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Speaker 3: and it that way.
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Speaker 4: Coach.
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Speaker 6: There's reports out that the deal with Clint Kubiak becoming
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Speaker 6: the next head coach for the Raiders that it's pretty
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Speaker 6: much a done deal. They can't come out with it
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Speaker 6: officially until after the Super Bowl. But you've been in
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Speaker 6: this situation before, You've had coaches or coordinators probably in
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Speaker 6: this situation before. Any concern about it affecting him as
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Speaker 6: far as prepping for the Super Bowl or is there
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Speaker 6: enough hours in the day that he can do both.
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Speaker 3: I think he can do both. I mean, if he
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Speaker 3: in fact has signed or is there in Las Vegas,
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Speaker 3: then yeah, he's thinking about he's excited about that, but
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Speaker 3: he also knows this game at hand is the most
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Speaker 3: important thing for him right now. You know, I reflect
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Speaker 3: back when I was a coordinator in San Francisco we
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Speaker 3: beat Denver in that Super Bowl. I'm walking down with
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Speaker 3: Mike Shanahan after the game he was with Denver. We're
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Speaker 3: talking in stuff and then I go to walk into
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Speaker 3: the locker room in the New Orleans and two guys
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Speaker 3: come up to the real, real fast and shove two
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Speaker 3: things in my pocket and then go, I go, what
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Speaker 3: the heck was that? And it was someone from the
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Speaker 3: New York Jets and someone from the Arizona Cardinals offering
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Speaker 3: wanted me to come in an interview for the head jobs.
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Speaker 3: In those days, I don't know why they got a
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Speaker 3: bunch of rules now and you you probably know him.
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Speaker 3: I don't, But in those days, you had to finish.
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Speaker 3: You couldn't talk to anybody till you were finished. And
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Speaker 3: so I remember going to and other coaches saying, well,
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Speaker 3: you make a decision, so we can you know, the
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Speaker 3: other guys line up for jobs. So it's different now.
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Speaker 3: But I think Clint Listen, he's a professional. He's in
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Speaker 3: the super Bowl, and one of the reasons that the
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Speaker 3: Seahawks are in the super Bowl is because of him.
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Speaker 3: Of course it's going to be exciting moving forward, but
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Speaker 3: this is where his focus is.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think a lot some days where it's permissible
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Speaker 5: to speak to teams in this capacity and even Mike
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Speaker 5: the Saturday prior to the championship game that was allowed. Now,
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Speaker 5: you know, I just can't monitor everything that may happen
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Speaker 5: impermissibly trying to create a situation like that. What what
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Speaker 5: about you know, Buck asks about the Super Bowl and
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Speaker 5: the impact that that could have. What about, Uh, let's
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Speaker 5: pull the helicopter up to a higher elevation and kind
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Speaker 5: of look down and on twenty twenty six and beyond
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Speaker 5: how how how concerned are we as Seahawk fans that
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Speaker 5: now apparently it really looks like you're losing the offensive coordinator.
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Speaker 5: What goes through your mind about the challenges for the
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Speaker 5: c R.
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Speaker 3: Well, there are challenges, you know. And I reflect back
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Speaker 3: on a time I was standing with Bill Parcells. We
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Speaker 3: were playing a game and before the game, and he
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Speaker 3: we had won a Super Bowl or we're getting close
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Speaker 3: to I forget it, but getting close. And he goes,
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Speaker 3: you know, when you get the hardest thing you'll have
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Speaker 3: to deal with now, not players, not getting players, it's
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Speaker 3: losing coaches, losing good coaches and replacing them. And I thought, well,
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Speaker 3: I'm not so sure, but you know, he was right.
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Speaker 3: And one of the great conversations i've had with Mike
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Speaker 3: McDonald since he came was about the hiring of an
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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator, you know, because he had a list of
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Speaker 3: guys and Clint was on that list and and I
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Speaker 3: just we talked a lot about that.
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Speaker 4: And so.
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Speaker 3: He's going to go through the same thing again. He
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Speaker 3: has a list of people already. I know that, and
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Speaker 3: you know, and he made such a good decision with Clinton,
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Speaker 3: and I trust his judgment to make another one. But
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Speaker 3: will it be a different Will things change just a
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Speaker 3: little bit? I think?
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Speaker 4: So?
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Speaker 3: You know, no two coordinators are the same.
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Speaker 4: What did your assistance ever go on to do? Though?
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Speaker 4: I mean dead ends?
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Speaker 3: Really?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that dog on Andy reid mustache. Would
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Speaker 3: you up a little exactly?
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Speaker 2: You know your career killer. I tell you, try to
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Speaker 2: try to create a person on your own. Just don't
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Speaker 2: copy the mentor come on now, Mike Congrin is with us.
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Speaker 2: We are Monday morning quarterbacking. And before we get off
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Speaker 2: of this topic, I was covering the Super Bowl the
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Speaker 2: I want to shot for my own grocery super Bowl,
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Speaker 2: and that was you versus Parcels, and of course you
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Speaker 2: won thirty five to twenty one, and that's but that
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Speaker 2: was the Super Bowl. And I'm telling you, coach, from
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Speaker 2: a coverage standpoint, you didn't realize this because you were
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Speaker 2: putting a game plan together, But from a coverage standpoint,
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Speaker 2: it took over the entire week, that entire conversation about
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Speaker 2: Bill Parcells is coaching his last game and all of
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Speaker 2: this sort of thing. And then you went out there
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Speaker 2: and kind of kind of dominated took it to them.
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Speaker 2: Uh and that and that super Bowl, so uh, I
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Speaker 2: don't know if that factored in at all, but certainly
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Speaker 2: that's the game. That's the super Bowl that comes to
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Speaker 2: mind where there was there might be a coach distraction?
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Speaker 2: Were you even aware of it that week? Were you
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Speaker 2: aware of how much everybody was talking about Parcels?
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Speaker 3: You know what, I really wasn't. I Then that's shame
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Speaker 3: on me. I should have, But I was focused on
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Speaker 3: what my job was. And then you know, I told
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Speaker 3: I told you this before in the when in those
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Speaker 3: press conferences that you go to where you have you know,
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Speaker 3: there's eight hundred people out there that I was the
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Speaker 3: I was the underdog coach with Bill Parcells. I got that,
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Speaker 3: and I understood that, and I kind of fed off
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Speaker 3: that quite honestly, but I didn't know he was leaving
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Speaker 3: right away. I know this when when I know this,
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Speaker 3: when we the game was over and and I had
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Speaker 3: never been I'm a big guy. I'd never been lifted
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Speaker 3: on my up in the air ever. And all of
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Speaker 3: a sudden, I'm up in the air, and all of
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Speaker 3: a sudden, I look over to I'm trying to find
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Speaker 3: Bill because we were we were you know, we were competitors,
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Speaker 3: but we were friends. And he looks at me in
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Speaker 3: waves and says, don't even just into just waves. And
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Speaker 3: I said, I said, put me down, you know, because
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Speaker 3: I have to shake hands with the other coach. I
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Speaker 3: have to. And I went over and shook his hands,
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Speaker 3: and and uh, but I didn't know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ashley, Bucky and I want to recreate that for you.
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Speaker 2: Whenever you're up to it. We'll just lift you up
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Speaker 2: on our shoulder. I've been around the story.
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Speaker 3: I've been waiting, and I think, because I sat in
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Speaker 3: your chair, that's not going to happen. I detected a
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Speaker 3: little anger.
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Speaker 4: Like a Jewish wedding carrying the groom er. That's right, Yeah,
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Speaker 4: I got it.
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Speaker 3: I think I think, I listen. I think Bucky has
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Speaker 3: to be part of that though it has to.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think he's going to carry most of it.
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Speaker 5: Frankly, Yeah, I got you, coach, Uh, Mike, I did
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Speaker 5: want to hit one more question on that. You know,
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Speaker 5: you know, there's a school of thought when when you
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Speaker 5: hire let's compare, uh, let's say Ben Johnson. We can
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Speaker 5: pick a lot of examples, but when you hire an
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Speaker 5: offensive coach, you say, all right, we've just paired Ben
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Speaker 5: Johnson with Caleb will and if they have this wonderful success,
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Speaker 5: then there's going to be continuity for the quarterback for
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Speaker 5: years to come because obviously the head coach isn't going
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Speaker 5: anywhere when you hire a defensive coach in this obviously
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Speaker 5: with Mike McDonald, Mike McDonald's going to find try and
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Speaker 5: find the most capable offensive coordinator he can find, which
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Speaker 5: was Kubiak, and then if all things go well that
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Speaker 5: coach Kubiak, he's off. And then now you're right back
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Speaker 5: at the drying board. In theory, we could be going
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Speaker 5: through this every year and and now you know, the
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Speaker 5: opposite would be true. The defense has to you know,
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Speaker 5: defensive coordinators are getting jobs for offensive coordinators and the
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Speaker 5: defense has to learn new stuff. But is it more
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Speaker 5: important or is there more of a primacy about the
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Speaker 5: continuity for a quarterback in the situation that we find
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Speaker 5: ourselves in.
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Speaker 3: I think it's important. I think that's why when this happened,
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Speaker 3: it's really important to who he hires, you know. And again,
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Speaker 3: like I said, we had this talk about this, and
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Speaker 3: and because I think coming in one of the things
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Speaker 3: coming in is this offense now is rolling a certain way.
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Speaker 3: And so whoever comes in and is hired, you know,
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Speaker 3: you come in, you're hired. When I was hired, you know,
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Speaker 3: I brought the forty nine ers system with me, you know,
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Speaker 3: and because I that's how I learned, and that's what
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Speaker 3: I did. If whoever comes in is not going to
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Speaker 3: have is not going to have Clinton Kubia's system, He's
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Speaker 3: not so either. That's the tricky part, I think is
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Speaker 3: how as a head coach you say, okay, here, I
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Speaker 3: want you to run my offense, but you actually are
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Speaker 3: hiring a coordinator because he's been good at doing something
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Speaker 3: and it's probably not the same. So how you balance
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Speaker 3: that and handle the quarterback? I think it's huge, It's huge.
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Speaker 4: Coach.
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Speaker 6: They landed the Seahawks touchdown, I think yesterday and obviously
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Speaker 6: a lot of peopeople in Seattle are feeling real confident
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Speaker 6: about this game and understandably show the way that they're playing.
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Speaker 6: I mean, how much would you be concerned if you're
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Speaker 6: the head coach getting off that your team was maybe
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Speaker 6: here in all the hype surrounding them.
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Speaker 3: I would be concerned, because you know, I mentioned it
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Speaker 3: to you guys before too. I think that's one of
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Speaker 3: the reasons we lost our second Super Bowl in Green Bay,
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Speaker 3: because like the team, we were very confident and and
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Speaker 3: too confident as it turned out, played lost a close game,
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Speaker 3: but we lost. And so I for some reason, I
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Speaker 3: don't see this team doing that. I just don't think
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Speaker 3: they'll be allowed to do it. I don't think they
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Speaker 3: They seem to just fire. They've got young guys on
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Speaker 3: the team. They're not guys that have been there a
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Speaker 3: long time, you know, and so this, for a lot
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Speaker 3: of them, it is the first shot at this and
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Speaker 3: so I don't think they have to worry about that.
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Speaker 3: I think, I think, but I would say this, do
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Speaker 3: not underestimate New England. They played close games, and there's
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Speaker 3: you know, League and all that in their division. But
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Speaker 3: this is a super Bowl and we've all seen crazy
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Speaker 3: things happen in this business.
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Speaker 2: Do you just have to trust that you have a
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Speaker 2: group of professionals? I mean, I don't know how much
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Speaker 2: you can monitor whether or not everybody is laser focused
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Speaker 2: the way that you would want them to be. So
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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, maybe you do check to make
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Speaker 2: sure that Clint Kubiak actually is reading a sports illustrated
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Speaker 2: and not Raider magazine, you know, and you know, to
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Speaker 2: make sure that he is watching.
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Speaker 4: Game film and and.
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Speaker 2: Not you know, howie long videos. I mean, maybe you
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Speaker 2: got to do that. I don't know, But how much
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Speaker 2: of how much of it do you just have to
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Speaker 2: just trust because you can't stay on top of everybody,
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Speaker 2: otherwise you might push it too far the other.
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Speaker 3: Way, Yeah, with the coaches. With the coaches, you don't worry.
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Speaker 3: Now in Clint's case, you know, of course he's going
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Speaker 3: to go onto this edge coaching job. But he's a
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Speaker 3: professional and you'll see by his way, you know that
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Speaker 3: they wouldn't concern me at all. The players that you
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Speaker 3: are concerned because you get characters on the team and
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Speaker 3: you wonder what, Okay, the curfew is going to be
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Speaker 3: a little different. I let them have a little room there. Okay,
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Speaker 3: please conduct yourself properly. But you know what, I really
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Speaker 3: relied on my player's committee. You know, there were six
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Speaker 3: or seven guys that were the leaders of the team,
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Speaker 3: who were who if someone stepped sideways a little bit,
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Speaker 3: they would pretty much handle that for me, or at
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Speaker 3: least I'd find out about it, you know. And so
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Speaker 3: but yeah, I thought about that. You're always a little
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Speaker 3: concerned they have some time. The Bay Area is a
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Speaker 3: fun place to be, you know, I don't know where
16:44
Speaker 3: they're staying. You guys know what hotel they're in.
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Speaker 2: Sounds like they're I think they're staying over there at the.
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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, can't you think of the name? Now? Yeah,
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Speaker 4: I think there's a fancy smanches down and yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: they're saying it's Steph Curry's house.
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Speaker 3: Yeah no, but no, the Bay Area, there's a lot
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Speaker 3: of temptations there. I grew up there. But it's uh.
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Speaker 3: But so that's that's the thing that you have to
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Speaker 3: emphasize with the players because getting to the Super Bowl
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Speaker 3: you're not finished. You're not finished, and so.
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Speaker 4: Take care of it.
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Speaker 3: Let's take care of business and then we'll celebrate afterwards.
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Speaker 5: Mike Uh Troy Aikman, Uh kind of disclosed something that
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Speaker 5: you don't hear a lot of athletes say, and and
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Speaker 5: and there's a reason for it. And it had to
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Speaker 5: do with his first super Bowl experience. It happened to
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Speaker 5: have been in the Rose Bowl playing the Bills. Now
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Speaker 5: that's his college stadium and what have you. And and
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Speaker 5: he's admitted that it took him an entire quarter to
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Speaker 5: stop hyperventilating, that there was a nerves hit him when
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Speaker 5: he came out of that tunnel. Uh and and it
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Speaker 5: just hit him like a truck, and it took him
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Speaker 5: a quarter to get through it. Now he can disclose
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Speaker 5: that because he threw four touchdown passes and he was
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Speaker 5: the super Bow Bowl MVP and they won it.
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Speaker 4: I doubt he would have disclosed that had they lost it.
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Speaker 5: Is there had to have been a time somewhere where
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Speaker 5: you had maybe even just an inclination that one of
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Speaker 5: the one of your players, he's like, okay, he's not
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Speaker 5: handling this well almost like what like if you're climbing Everest,
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Speaker 5: you're you know, you're watching for who's not handling the altitude?
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Speaker 5: Well like, like at some point did that ever strike
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Speaker 5: you like, okay, I got to do something to kind
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Speaker 5: of calm this guy down that.
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Speaker 3: Do you remember that, Yeah, I absolutely do. And it
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Speaker 3: was a you can get all the quarterbacks I've coached,
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Speaker 3: you who you think I'd have to calm down the
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Speaker 3: most far? Okay, let's talk let's talk about that far
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Speaker 3: for a second. Okay. He in the beginning of that game, okay,
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Speaker 3: where he's he's you know, he's he's like that anyway,
18:53
Speaker 3: And but then he throws the touchdown past right, Okay,
18:57
Speaker 3: he takes off his helmet. He comes running by me
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Speaker 3: on this yeah, screaming out we're going crazy, comes over
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Speaker 3: to the sidelines, screaming on the I go, oh boy,
19:06
Speaker 3: oh boy, this is the beginning of the game. I
19:09
Speaker 3: go over to him and I say, I put my
19:11
Speaker 3: hand down. He's looking at me, he goes what I go, Okay,
19:14
Speaker 3: take a deep breath, Okay, count to ten. All right,
19:17
Speaker 3: look at me, look in my eyes, trying to you know,
19:22
Speaker 3: oh she was. And then I almost said, looking into
19:25
Speaker 3: my eyes and whack. I almost hit him on the
19:26
Speaker 3: side of the helmet, but no, but he then I
19:30
Speaker 3: then he kind of he did he kind of re entered,
19:34
Speaker 3: you know.
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Speaker 4: But oh he was.
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Speaker 3: Excited, and I'm you know, understandably.
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Speaker 5: But he threw a beautiful touch pass to Rising for
19:42
Speaker 5: the touchdown. I'm saying, is there anybody where you say, well,
19:46
Speaker 5: like like maybe he's dropping passes or a punt returner
19:50
Speaker 5: like he's you know, it looks terrified or I don't know,
19:53
Speaker 5: like in that case far even though he was excited,
19:56
Speaker 5: he was still performing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was an audible he called too it Yeah,
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Speaker 3: a fifty six razor, right, so I couldn't hit him
20:03
Speaker 3: very hard. I didn't hit him very hard on the
20:04
Speaker 3: side of the head. I really didn't, you know, But
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Speaker 3: do you you know what? No, but I was No,
20:11
Speaker 3: I don't remember anybody like that, But I probably because
20:15
Speaker 3: I was. I was in my own little cocoon. I
20:18
Speaker 3: was in my own little world.
20:20
Speaker 4: Are you ever nervous?
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Speaker 3: Always? I was always a little nervous.
20:23
Speaker 4: You're nervous in a Super Bowl?
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Speaker 3: Excited maybe more excited.
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Speaker 5: But did you ever think there was a play where
20:28
Speaker 5: you're like, man, I didn't think that one through very well.
20:31
Speaker 5: We're punting because because you know, I'm just kind of
20:34
Speaker 5: not in my into my groove yet.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I never made a mistake like that.
20:38
Speaker 2: I can't remember when, you know, Okay, I called him
20:44
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20:48
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Speaker 2: Quarterback and Coach. I want to pick up a conversation
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Speaker 2: that Bucky and I were having with Hugh in regards
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Speaker 2: to one of the really interesting matchups that's going to
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Speaker 2: take place on Sunday, and I'll just ask you both,
22:20
Speaker 2: because I was getting ready to ask Hugh this anyway,
22:22
Speaker 2: but I would just ask you both, and I'll start
22:24
Speaker 2: with you, Coach, If you've got a splendid number one
22:28
Speaker 2: wide receiver, arguably the best in the game in JSN,
22:31
Speaker 2: but he's already shown in his short time with you
22:34
Speaker 2: he can play pretty much anywhere on the field, including
22:37
Speaker 2: a pretty rich history in the slot. And then you've
22:40
Speaker 2: got a new England Patriots cornerback, Christian Gonzalez, who's one
22:45
Speaker 2: of the best in the game, but doesn't travel all
22:48
Speaker 2: that much with wide receivers. Coach, would you take your
22:52
Speaker 2: number one weapon and play him like in the slot,
22:56
Speaker 2: move him all over the place to avoid Gonzales or
22:59
Speaker 2: do you not allow a cornerback, no matter how good
23:03
Speaker 2: he is, to take away from what you want to
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Speaker 2: do offensively.
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Speaker 3: No, I would start with if he's Gonzalez is that
23:10
Speaker 3: type of player, then I would try and move JSN
23:13
Speaker 3: away from him at you know, and that's part of
23:16
Speaker 3: their offense anyway, the Seyhawks offense. So I'd flip it.
23:20
Speaker 3: If I'm in New England, I'm not sure i would
23:24
Speaker 3: line him up. Other teams have done that. Take your
23:27
Speaker 3: best corner and but then it messages. It changes everything
23:31
Speaker 3: in the defense, moving that one guy to cover their
23:34
Speaker 3: best receiver. Okay, then you have to make a lot
23:37
Speaker 3: of other changes on their defense. But they could choose
23:41
Speaker 3: to do that. If they think JSN is that important
23:45
Speaker 3: to how the Seahawks move the football, they might do that.
23:49
Speaker 3: But I would be surprised because they're playing pretty good defense,
23:53
Speaker 3: and they're playing pretty good defense a certain way without
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Speaker 3: doing that.
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Speaker 5: Mike, They've got Gonzales just thirty eight snaps in the slot.
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Speaker 5: He's left corner two hundred snaps exactly, and then right corner,
24:08
Speaker 5: as it turns out, six hundred and twenty eight snaps.
24:12
Speaker 5: So he's so from our perspective, offensively, he's on our left.
24:16
Speaker 5: If we get to the right hash and we put
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Speaker 5: JSN as the X away right, there's a good chance
24:23
Speaker 5: we're not getting him. We're getting Carlton Davis. Uh, you know,
24:26
Speaker 5: And if they want to push to the trips or
24:29
Speaker 5: what have you. It really is it gets into those
24:33
Speaker 5: layers of like, hey, what hash are we on, what
24:35
Speaker 5: formation we on, and what have you? When we want
24:37
Speaker 5: to start work thinking about these matchups.
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Speaker 3: No, and then absolutely And then you know, if you're man,
24:45
Speaker 3: zone concepts factor into this as well. You know, if
24:48
Speaker 3: you're moving him around and you're playing zone, that might
24:51
Speaker 3: change some stuff for other people. And they have to
24:54
Speaker 3: be so coordinated that way, and as a coach you
24:56
Speaker 3: have to decide, you know, is this worth it or
24:59
Speaker 3: can when we play this young man, be aware of
25:02
Speaker 3: where he is and whoever is in that position opposite him,
25:06
Speaker 3: make sure you touch him, make sure he bang him
25:09
Speaker 3: to throw him off just a little bit. And it's
25:12
Speaker 3: if it's not Gonzales, it's somebody else. So you put
25:15
Speaker 3: that challenge to the secondary and to your defense.
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Speaker 2: I believe Hugh, if he never goes to the slot
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Speaker 2: based on the numbers and jsnd's amazing out of that.
25:25
Speaker 2: I mean, how much time would you put JSN in
25:28
Speaker 2: the slot just to avoid Christian Gonzales almost entirely.
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Speaker 5: Well, when when you put him in the slot, you say, okay,
25:34
Speaker 5: what are they doing if they're putting somebody really aggressive
25:37
Speaker 5: that Mike says, if they're playing zone, they could have
25:40
Speaker 5: a nickel or a linebacker that's out over the top
25:44
Speaker 5: of him and forcing the redirect. You know, you know,
25:47
Speaker 5: for example against the Rams in the NFC Championship that
25:52
Speaker 5: that played a JSN on the post route down down
25:56
Speaker 5: the middle.
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Speaker 4: If you look at the onset of that.
25:58
Speaker 5: Play, they're jamming. They are jamming JASN and they are
26:04
Speaker 5: denying free access. But when they motion shah Shaheed, they
26:09
Speaker 5: snapped the ball at exactly the time where the the
26:12
Speaker 5: the Rams are bouncing that coverage out and when the
26:15
Speaker 5: ball snapped at exactly that time. Mike, now JSN has
26:19
Speaker 5: that free access and he can run that that lean post.
26:22
Speaker 5: He leans to the corner and then he's then he
26:24
Speaker 5: divides the two safeties. And so that interestacy of what
26:31
Speaker 5: formation do we start in, what's our motion? And they went,
26:34
Speaker 5: exactly do we snap the ball. That can be the
26:37
Speaker 5: difference between Okay, now Jas isn't in the slot, but
26:41
Speaker 5: he right to snap the ball. He can just get
26:44
Speaker 5: right into the secondary and get up on that safety
26:47
Speaker 5: versus having to be jammed or redirect his route and
26:51
Speaker 5: take a which what throws off the timing. That's what
26:53
Speaker 5: Mike's alluding to. Mike, that's a part of when talk
26:57
Speaker 5: about how you call play early on in the first series,
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Speaker 5: first quarter with JS in the slot, what are you
27:04
Speaker 5: looking for when you call that play.
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Speaker 3: I'm looking for the alignment certainly. But that's the chess
27:09
Speaker 3: match that makes football fun. You know, you talk about
27:13
Speaker 3: emotion that makes the defense shift just a little bit,
27:17
Speaker 3: and normally you're expecting a motion across, so you're expecting
27:20
Speaker 3: a longer motion. They can shift, they can adjust on
27:23
Speaker 3: a short motion. They have that shift that just allows
27:26
Speaker 3: a release and as something as simple it's not simple,
27:30
Speaker 3: but something as easy as releasing clean instead of getting bumped.
27:34
Speaker 3: And so that's the chess match. So in the first
27:37
Speaker 3: fifteen of the game, my first fifteen, I'd have those
27:41
Speaker 3: types of I want to see this play is in there,
27:44
Speaker 3: to see how they were going to react to this,
27:47
Speaker 3: because defenses are really good. But a lot of times
27:49
Speaker 3: they are taught a certain thing and then they're going
27:52
Speaker 3: to do a certain thing. This is how we've been
27:54
Speaker 3: taught all week. Let me see how you do this.
27:57
Speaker 3: Then I'll adjust to that. I'll adjust to that. If
28:00
Speaker 3: they adjust again, you adjust. So but that's the fun
28:03
Speaker 3: of it.
28:04
Speaker 4: It's like coaching is important, Bucky.
28:06
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, yeah, probably, I think it's a kind of
28:10
Speaker 6: a big deal. I mean, coach, you talk about your
28:13
Speaker 6: first fifteen and then you make adjustments off of that.
28:15
Speaker 6: I'm curious. You know, you get two weeks to prepare
28:18
Speaker 6: and you look at people and see things that they're
28:21
Speaker 6: set up for. Maybe it's double moves. Maybe it's you're
28:25
Speaker 6: moving guys in motion to try to stay away from
28:27
Speaker 6: this guy. How many tricks up your sleeve do you
28:30
Speaker 6: create when it's uh, when you're getting ready for a
28:33
Speaker 6: game like this.
28:33
Speaker 3: Well, I think you have the time buck to do that,
28:36
Speaker 3: and so, yeah, you have a handful. I wouldn't say
28:40
Speaker 3: more than six, six to eight, you know of otherwise
28:45
Speaker 3: you've you've gotten to the super Bowl because you've done
28:49
Speaker 3: these things very well and now the defense is gonna
28:53
Speaker 3: But sometimes it's the correct defense for the play I called.
28:59
Speaker 3: But I say, Mike guy's going to execute better than
29:01
Speaker 3: your guy. And so a lot of offenses that you
29:05
Speaker 3: know Hugh talks about all the time, excuse me about
29:08
Speaker 3: releases and getting angles and stuff. A receiver just doesn't
29:11
Speaker 3: line up out there and just run. You know, he's
29:14
Speaker 3: he's working it. You know, you see some receivers we had.
29:17
Speaker 3: I thought DK Metcalf as an example, you know, used
29:21
Speaker 3: his ability and speed and all that, But a lot
29:23
Speaker 3: of times not maybe the subtleties of how you set
29:27
Speaker 3: yourself up and how you can get it taken advantage
29:30
Speaker 3: of the defense. And so yeah, I would say I'd
29:34
Speaker 3: have a handful, but too many trick plays. And I
29:37
Speaker 3: think then you've wasted a lot of practice time.
29:39
Speaker 2: Really, how many fourth and four I'm going to pass
29:43
Speaker 2: up the field goal here?
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Speaker 4: Plays? Do you have on your call, coach?
29:49
Speaker 3: Fourth and fourth? Yeah, fourth and four and fourth and
29:52
Speaker 3: three and fourth and two and yeah, oh well, yeah,
29:56
Speaker 3: you got a handful.
29:56
Speaker 4: You know.
29:57
Speaker 3: I was labeled it on my sign and I've told
29:59
Speaker 3: you this before. I'm on my sheet it said to
30:02
Speaker 3: win the game, these plays bom and so we we
30:07
Speaker 3: practice those.
30:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, we would all right, Well, thank you for joining us.
30:11
Speaker 4: We appreciate a coach.
30:12
Speaker 2: Uh and uh, we will catch up with you later
30:15
Speaker 2: on this week, but appreciate you coming on for a
30:18
Speaker 2: couple segments with us here today. Uh and uh, yeah,
30:23
Speaker 2: don't go far because we're probably gonna bug you again.
30:25
Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Two quick things. Congratulations to Hugh for going in the
30:29
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame in Pacific Northwest. And then I'm gonna
30:33
Speaker 3: go as soon as I'm done, I'm going to go
30:35
Speaker 3: sit in your chair and just hang out for a while.
30:38
Speaker 4: You do it, it's yours.
30:40
Speaker 2: Put your feet up, a little bit, microphone, make yourself
30:44
Speaker 2: at home. Hey, don't blame the smell of that microphone
30:47
Speaker 2: on me.
30:47
Speaker 3: There are there cameras in here that can You won't
30:49
Speaker 3: see me, will you know, do what you want? Okay,
30:53
Speaker 3: thank you, I coach home joining us.
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Speaker 2: Thanks right here, Uh chuck and back all right, one
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Speaker 4: That's not the way it goes.
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Speaker 2: That's a little bit, a little bit like the way
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Speaker 4: Yeah way, it kind of.
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Speaker 7: It's one club, but it's not how you just at
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Speaker 7: all one down to the s exactly. No, ash no,
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Speaker 7: chip in Ashley, do not encourage.
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Speaker 4: You and I are on the same page on this.
32:07
Speaker 5: Sorry about that to hear that. Yeah, yeah, and then
32:12
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take you two up off my yea a while,
32:17
Speaker 5: turn this dial down. I don't have to hear that again.
32:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna sing it again before the end of
32:22
Speaker 2: the segment to warn you. But we do have one
32:25
Speaker 2: last thing. You got something for Hugh while we got
32:28
Speaker 2: him here.
32:28
Speaker 4: Pepper, you don't have one.
32:31
Speaker 6: I have heard you talk because a lot of people
32:33
Speaker 6: wanted to hate on Sam Darnold. They got a scarlet
32:35
Speaker 6: d for.
32:35
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I heard, but I uh, you only get
32:40
Speaker 7: one thing.
32:41
Speaker 6: He rips it in the Super Bowl. But there's going
32:44
Speaker 6: to be a mistake and there's it's consequences to those,
32:47
Speaker 6: or he's very passive and there's consequences.
32:50
Speaker 4: To that as well. What do you want?
32:52
Speaker 6: You want him ripping it, but there's gonna want to
32:55
Speaker 6: ripping it or just not just playing it safe, Sam
32:59
Speaker 6: the ripper.
33:00
Speaker 4: I don't, No, I don't.
33:02
Speaker 5: I don't like that as a fan, nor do I
33:06
Speaker 5: think it's the best strategy to win. What was the
33:09
Speaker 5: one word that Mike McDonald chose when asked to describe
33:16
Speaker 5: the NFC Championship game performance by Sam Donald?
33:20
Speaker 4: Fearless.
33:22
Speaker 5: He's been telling us the entire season, even after the
33:26
Speaker 5: foreig interception, like he lost the RAM game. There's nobody
33:29
Speaker 5: that denies that, and you know the last person who
33:32
Speaker 5: would deny that, Sam Donald. That's the cost of doing
33:35
Speaker 5: business when you're a quarterback. Sometimes you play a bad
33:38
Speaker 5: enough game, you're the reason why you lost it. You
33:41
Speaker 5: know what, everybody but in the team knows. Everybody on
33:43
Speaker 5: the plane knows it. Unfortunately, I've experienced that way more
33:46
Speaker 5: than I should have. But but in the case of Donald, no,
33:50
Speaker 5: like McDonald is telling us I've run correlation numbers for you'
33:57
Speaker 5: and he's telling you that you're gonna be better off.
34:01
Speaker 5: If you take an aggressive mindset, if you have you said,
34:05
Speaker 5: one mistake. Now, if it's a pick six and it's
34:07
Speaker 5: a it's a ninety nine yard pick six, yeah, you know,
34:12
Speaker 5: you know that's that that would be probably the worst
34:15
Speaker 5: thing you could do. I'm not cost of doing business.
34:18
Speaker 5: But well, if you have five touchdowns, offset it. I'm
34:21
Speaker 5: not saying it's you know, most most times I've even
34:24
Speaker 5: ran it. It's been a while, but I've ran what
34:27
Speaker 5: percentage of time do you win if you have a
34:30
Speaker 5: you know, ninety five or more yard pick six?
34:32
Speaker 4: The answer is not not often so sore.
34:36
Speaker 5: There's calamities and then there's really calamitous, right, but so
34:41
Speaker 5: I I hope we're not dealing with that. But but yeah,
34:44
Speaker 5: if you can withstand an interception, if you're getting chunk
34:50
Speaker 5: plays and your scoring points in the process.
34:53
Speaker 4: Of it, do you.
34:56
Speaker 2: Have a feeling at all that this could be a blowout.
35:00
Speaker 2: I know you're not in the prediction business. I'm just
35:02
Speaker 2: talking about the matchup.
35:04
Speaker 4: Between the two. Uh I.
35:08
Speaker 5: I feel like it's gonna be closer than people think.
35:11
Speaker 5: I would probably vote the under or bet the under
35:14
Speaker 5: if I had to bet it. I feel like the
35:18
Speaker 5: point spreads about right. I think New England. I think
35:23
Speaker 5: they're gonna throw it a lot better, or are they're
35:26
Speaker 5: gonna feel better because they're you know, like Drake May,
35:28
Speaker 5: for example, is gonna feel like the weather. It's gonna
35:31
Speaker 5: supposed to be low sixties, you know, but that's gonna
35:33
Speaker 5: it's gonna feel downright balmy compared to what he's been
35:35
Speaker 5: dealing with in the postseason. Yeah, right, And so if
35:40
Speaker 5: if you don't get a pass rush on him, you know,
35:42
Speaker 5: I think he's got an array of weapons that he
35:45
Speaker 5: can get to and then uh and then Vrabel. My
35:51
Speaker 5: concern is that he has a package to kind of
35:55
Speaker 5: disrupt Seattle's offensive line in protection and and things kind
35:59
Speaker 5: of get you know, and he does these wide nine
36:02
Speaker 5: techniques where the defensive ends are really wide and they're jamming.
36:06
Speaker 5: They're more concerned with jamming receivers than they are with
36:10
Speaker 5: rushing the passer. We've seen Belichick employee that kind of
36:13
Speaker 5: game plan and win super Bowls with that. So so
36:17
Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe that's just the the cautious player
36:20
Speaker 5: in me. Of course, I can draw us. I could
36:23
Speaker 5: describe a scenario where Seattle blows them out. Yeah, but
36:26
Speaker 5: I don't feel like that's gonna happen. And one of
36:28
Speaker 5: the things what you've heard of this defensive adjusted value
36:34
Speaker 5: over average that the Sabermetricians point to, Seattle is the
36:41
Speaker 5: fifth highest rated team in the Super Bowl era.
36:44
Speaker 4: Like Seattle has a really good team, the Patriots.
36:49
Speaker 5: When you compare the overall and the gap between the
36:53
Speaker 5: overall and the improvement, essentially the improvement, the Patriots are
36:58
Speaker 5: the number one most improved team in the in the
37:01
Speaker 5: Super Bowl era by dv OA. So so a lot
37:05
Speaker 5: of times when you just throw the numbers and you
37:07
Speaker 5: say the entire season where they're ranked this and this,
37:10
Speaker 5: all their bad games were at the beginning season, and
37:13
Speaker 5: their five best games defensively have been the last five games.
37:17
Speaker 5: Now Weather's been an assist for at least uh six
37:21
Speaker 5: quarters of those. I'm acknowledging that. But I think the
37:25
Speaker 5: Patriots are you know, you throw on the tape and
37:28
Speaker 5: there's there's there's good dudes on all levels, all levels
37:33
Speaker 5: of the defense.
37:34
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, well, thank you, sir, Excited about the
37:38
Speaker 2: entire week. Probably gonna bug you every day to come
37:42
Speaker 2: on with us rock and roll.
37:43
Speaker 4: I'm here.
37:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, what else did you come to the Super
37:45
Speaker 2: Bowl for if not Doctor Bucket and I every day. Yeah, hey,
37:49
Speaker 2: you know it's a labor of love, right guys shoveling asphalt,
37:52
Speaker 2: I sure as hell ain't gonna complain about talking about football. Well,
37:55
Speaker 2: if you are shoveling asphalt, you tap that asphalt.
38:00
Speaker 4: Do you hear me? What he did there? See what
38:02
Speaker 4: he did there?
38:02
Speaker 2: Yeah? See he got a good night's sleep last night.
38:05
Speaker 8: Yeah, things dogging him, but he needs his sleep to
38:08
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