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IAAI Town Meeting: The Jess of It All (Season 4 E12 “A Family Matter”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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Speaker 2: Oh that's you.
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Speaker 1: I Am all in Town meeting with Suzanne French and
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Speaker 1: Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back another
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Speaker 1: episode I'm all in Town meeting with myself, Tara and Suzanne.
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Speaker 2: Hello.
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Speaker 1: Hi, Today we're talking about season four, episode twelve, A
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Speaker 1: Family Matter, which aired on February third, two thousand and four.
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Speaker 1: And Jess is back.
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Speaker 2: Yes, the return of Jess.
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Speaker 1: Not the way I thought, like I didn't. I like,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, I forgot that's how he comes back.
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Speaker 1: But the Liz of it all.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is we talked about the last
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Speaker 2: episode having some important moments. This one also like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: Jess comes back. We finally he Liz for the first time.
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Speaker 2: We've only heard about her, we've never seen her before.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot going on, like this last half of
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Speaker 2: season four is ramping up. For sure.
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Speaker 1: Before we started, our producer Jackie said that, oh, this
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Speaker 1: episode aired in February, so is probably February sweep. So
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Speaker 1: I think we're in the thick of it. But also
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Speaker 1: we're basically smack in the middle of the season. Like
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Speaker 1: there's twenty some episodes. We're on episode twelve, Like this
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Speaker 1: is where the ball's rolling.
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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, Like it's really picking up steam heading Like
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Speaker 2: we see that this is heading towards something with Luke
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Speaker 2: and Laurelei. So we don't know what it's gonna be,
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Speaker 2: but we know it's like the trains on the tracks
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Speaker 2: and it's not stopping.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Can I say I thought the banter with laurel
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Speaker 1: I and Kirk was so funny about that he has
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Speaker 1: a girlfriend and not to flirt with with him, and
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Speaker 1: she's just fake flirting the entire time.
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Speaker 2: Yes, that you know. I just love Kirk in general,
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Speaker 2: Like he's just hilarious. So the two of them just
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Speaker 2: bouncing off of each other was so funny. And he
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Speaker 2: was so paranoid that like he was cheating because she
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Speaker 2: was flirting with him, which just made her do it more.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I know you you mentioned the pink coat in
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Speaker 1: the last episode, but the pink coat? Was this really
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Speaker 1: the episode that everyone remembers as pink coat for because
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Speaker 1: in my head I was like, this is not that
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Speaker 1: significant of an episode to remember the coat.
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Speaker 2: I remember it more in the next I think it's
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Speaker 2: the next one.
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, oh comes back.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I remember it more. And I think it's the
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Speaker 2: next episode or maybe the one after where she's crying
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Speaker 2: in the park with Luke. That's where that's a scene
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Speaker 2: I most identify with the pink coat.
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Speaker 1: Okay, because I was really distracted through this episode because
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Speaker 1: first of all, she's wearing it through like half the episode,
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Speaker 1: and I'm just like this was the episode that was significant.
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Speaker 1: I was just like so lost. But yeah, it's very cute,
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Speaker 1: no hat this episode. There everyone's hair looks great. Yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: good hair. This oubisodes especially localize. I do have to
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Speaker 1: mention I've never been a fan of Jason, and this
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Speaker 1: episode is one hundred and ten percent the reason why
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Speaker 1: he just bugs the living crap out of me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he he doesn't bother me that much, but he
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Speaker 2: the tailgating, especially in this episode, Like why does he
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Speaker 2: have to be such an a hole?
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Speaker 1: See, that didn't bother me as much of like taking
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Speaker 1: all these phone calls you took like two hours off
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Speaker 1: in the morning, Like it just it just that part
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Speaker 1: bothered me. And then also I thought the back and
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Speaker 1: forth being on the phone outside of missus Kims with
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Speaker 1: like like I just thought that whole scene with the
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Speaker 1: banter of them on the phones was kind of annoying,
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Speaker 1: but that's just me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a little drawn out.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was a little drawn well also, like
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Speaker 1: I think it would have been fine if like he
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Speaker 1: was on the phone when he got to Larealize and
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Speaker 1: then he had like maybe one more phone call, like
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Speaker 1: five phone calls from him, Like I get he's a
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Speaker 1: busy man, but right right.
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Speaker 2: And they really played up how it was like all
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Speaker 2: these different countries and like he's just so international.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it bug me so much. Now I'm
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Speaker 1: just being picky. When he's sitting in his car talking
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Speaker 1: and they're talking, but clearly he doesn't put the phone
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Speaker 1: on mute, so like obviously like they're gonna pick up
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Speaker 1: words like kinky, and then this guy in like the
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Speaker 1: different countries like, well I don't understand the translation of kinky,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like put on mute, like yeah, be realistic.
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Speaker 1: And then like the back and forth of them on
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Speaker 1: the phone hearing each other and being loud, I'm just
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Speaker 1: like okay, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: And then though I also thought, speaking of things that
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Speaker 2: maybe were a little overplayed, the whole scene at Emily's
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Speaker 2: house when she's laughing about the idea of Loralai and
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Speaker 2: Jason being together, and Loralai is like, why is that
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Speaker 2: so funny? And Emily's just like it just was over
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Speaker 2: and over. She's just laughing.
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Speaker 1: Well she knows right, No, she doesn't know they're together.
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Speaker 1: Do you not think she has like an inkling that
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Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. I don't know, I.
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Speaker 2: Don't think so, just because she's so surprised when she
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Speaker 2: does find out. Okay, I was just I don't know,
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Speaker 2: I just was annoyed because I didn't think it was
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Speaker 2: that funny like she It was just so over the top. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: the level and the volume of the of the laughing.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, it just like dragged on maybe thirty
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Speaker 2: seconds too long for me.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't really care for like that whole Friday
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Speaker 1: night dinner anyway.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, it was it was a little it was
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Speaker 2: a little awkward. I mean it was it was kind
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Speaker 2: of short, but yeah, it was.
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Speaker 1: It was awkward. I could have done without it. But
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Speaker 1: I understand because she was supposed to tell Emily about
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Speaker 1: Jason and didn't understand the reasoning. Also at the just
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Speaker 1: to jump a little bit after the dinner, when Laura
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Speaker 1: lies on the phone with Jason and she's like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I didn't tell her. Rory is taking the fakest sip
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Speaker 1: of hot chocolate or coffee or whatever I've ever seen,
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Speaker 1: and like her exaggerate. It's like it literally was like
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Speaker 1: like it was like she didn't even try to take
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Speaker 1: a sip. I was like, okaytast at least pretend like
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Speaker 1: there's something in the cup. I know, her like being cold.
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Speaker 1: She was like it was like over the top.
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Speaker 2: That's funny. I didn't even notice that, but yeah, it was.
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Speaker 2: It was probably like October when they shot this, and
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Speaker 2: October in La is.
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Speaker 1: Always hot, so well it was night, so it may
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Speaker 1: have been a little cooler.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That's true.
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Speaker 1: I guess I want to let's see what let's jump to.
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Speaker 1: Like the Lane and Paris stuff. Yeah, I pears is
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Speaker 1: pretty annoying this episode.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you have to you have to weave the
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Speaker 2: Jamie thing into that. Also, Yeah, I don't know, Paris
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Speaker 2: just was. I did not like Paris in this episode.
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Speaker 2: And I felt bad for Rory because Rory keeps running
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Speaker 2: into Jamie and.
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Speaker 1: I felt bad for Jamie.
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Speaker 2: It was his birthday, yeah, I mean it's his birthday
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Speaker 2: and she didn't mention him.
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Speaker 1: It was his birthday. She didn't even tell Yeah, she
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Speaker 1: didn't say it was his birthday. I was like, we
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Speaker 1: I was waiting for her to be like, by the way,
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Speaker 1: it was his birthday, like you broke up with them
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Speaker 1: on She.
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Speaker 2: Didn't say that. I can't remember. She didn't say that
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Speaker 2: when she went back to the dorm. No, no, yeah,
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Speaker 2: she should have said something. But yeah, I felt bound
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Speaker 2: for Jamie because he says it was hard for him
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Speaker 2: to schedule and he just got these two days to
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Speaker 2: come see her, and then she keeps blowing him off.
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Speaker 2: I mean I felt bad for him. Yeah, and then
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Speaker 2: but and then Paris is just an idiot. She's like,
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Speaker 2: do you think he's gonna ask me to go to
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Speaker 2: Oxford with him? And like she's like all ahead of
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Speaker 2: her heels, and the.
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Speaker 1: Then the comments about his body. I was like, please,
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Speaker 1: it's so weird. It is. I think it's weird because
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Speaker 1: of the way that Paris is reacting to it. I
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Speaker 1: think Rory's reaction is normal. I think Paris's justification for
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Speaker 1: it is weird.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I totally agree. And it's like it's it's
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Speaker 2: not so much for me, it's not so much the
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Speaker 2: age difference. It's just it's the professor's student thing on
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Speaker 2: top of that, like there's an imbalance. Yeah, the relationship there,
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Speaker 2: and it's I don't know.
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Speaker 1: It's just I think it's I think the whole thing
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Speaker 1: is yucky. I think it's age two a little bit
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Speaker 1: for me, just because it's like both Yeah, I think
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Speaker 1: it's I mean he's she's what nineteen and he's sixty. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: like come on, that is a lot. Yes, and he's
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Speaker 1: not cute. We've been through this, but he's like not
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Speaker 1: the most attractive man. You so much. Yeah, it's give
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Speaker 1: me a hotter older man if you want me to
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Speaker 1: believe it a little bit. But I digress. I will
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Speaker 1: say the one part I thought it was funny was when, uh,
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Speaker 1: the coffee routine that she has. I thought that was
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Speaker 1: kind of funny. But then it was funny because then
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Speaker 1: Rory like kicks her out. I'm like, it's her it's
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Speaker 1: her room. Yeah, well no, they share.
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Speaker 2: A room, right they do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're two beds in that room. Yeah okay, but
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Speaker 1: it was funny because she just got up and she's
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Speaker 1: like get out or whatever. She said, look the herb.
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Speaker 2: I know, and then poor Lane is like trying to
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Speaker 2: make herself useful, and she's like did you see her
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Speaker 2: in the background making Paris?
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Speaker 1: Yes?
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Speaker 2: Yes, and then she's like, oh, I have to go
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Speaker 2: wake up on it, like.
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Speaker 1: She's just meanwhile, she's accused of doing drugs.
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Speaker 2: I know, chasing the dragon.
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Speaker 1: I like how that was a reference twice of like, well,
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Speaker 1: it's chasing the dragon. And then Jamie says it too,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, what do we think about Liz.
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Speaker 2: This is the first time we've met Liz. Luke clearly
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Speaker 2: is not happy that she's back.
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Speaker 1: I think she plays this character exactly how we want
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Speaker 1: to feel about her, which is annoyed. Yes, yeah, Like
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Speaker 1: I don't dislike her, she's just annoying, yes, And.
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Speaker 2: You can see that in Luke's demeanor. He's like, what
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Speaker 2: do you want?
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Speaker 1: Like he knew that she really what does she want?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like he knew that she wasn't there just to
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Speaker 2: say hi, Like there's always there's always a catch, right,
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Speaker 2: like she always needs money or you know whatever, So
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Speaker 2: like he called it out. And then when she's like
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Speaker 2: I came to see what the Class of eighty four
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Speaker 2: was doing, and he's like, really, you just came back
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Speaker 2: for that.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Also, how much money are you making
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Speaker 1: selling your jewelry at the renaissance there? Like to make
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Speaker 1: a living?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. She says she's got a new
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Speaker 2: apartment really but doesn't isn't she supposed to live in
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Speaker 2: New York City?
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Can you afford?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. In two thousand and four, way more
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Speaker 1: better than now.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. She I think that it was a
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Speaker 1: good intro for her as like, like we've heard about Liz,
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Speaker 1: but we don't know Liz. And I think it was
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Speaker 1: a great first episode to like an introduction of a character.
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Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, she's like a job portraying it.
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Speaker 1: I was shocked that this was the episode at the
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Speaker 1: end that Jess comes back, because I was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: this was all in one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And also just spur the moment he wanted the car
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Speaker 1: and so we just want to like he got when
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Speaker 1: it came across it just like they didn't add up
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Speaker 1: to me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And and Liz tells Luke when they were talking
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Speaker 2: about Jess, she says he's with his dad.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why.
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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, He's not, like, so
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Speaker 2: was she lying to Luke or did she think Jess
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Speaker 2: really was the I you know, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I don't think they talked all the time,
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Speaker 1: so probably the last time they talked he was in
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Speaker 1: la and like, how did he get there? He fly like,
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Speaker 1: yeah exactly, it was like the details and like he
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Speaker 1: just showed up and then like, to be honestly, I'm
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Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I don't remember what comes after this
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Speaker 1: with the with the jet situation of it all, I
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Speaker 1: really don't.
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Speaker 2: Well. So the next episode is the Firelight Festival, and
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Speaker 2: that's where Jess tells Rory that he loves her.
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Speaker 1: Oh that's next. Okay, we're really speaking up. Okay. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: because I don't know the order of episodes, and I'm
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Speaker 1: always like, so I didn't realize that that is next. Okay, yes, okay, okay, yeah,
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Speaker 1: well that makes sense why we're doing February sweeps, which,
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Speaker 1: by the way, when I was actually I didn't look
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Speaker 1: up when it this aired, but in my head, I
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Speaker 1: was like, is it Christmas? Like when they were setting
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Speaker 1: up in the beginning with like the stars and stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so it it definitely because we've we've had snow,
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Speaker 2: so it does feel like it's later. And even in
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Speaker 2: the last episode they even commented on how like this
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Speaker 2: was the fourth Snow or the fourth or fifth Snow. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: but it's not December yet because then we go right
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Speaker 2: very episode, it's still fall ish.
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Speaker 1: So funny because when you watch these shows, just like back,
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Speaker 1: you're not thinking about By the way, if I'm binging
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Speaker 1: another show, I'm not thinking about the detail of when
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Speaker 1: this aired. I'm just I'm just letting it roll. And
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Speaker 1: then I'm like, oh, I this episode mid binge, I'm
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Speaker 1: like our Halloween episode.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, I'm not I'm not even
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Speaker 2: paying attention on this. I don't even know when this
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Speaker 2: episode aired until we.
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Speaker 1: Re I literally don't know until we record and then
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Speaker 1: and then we see you when it aired, so I
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Speaker 1: can say it like that's when I find.
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Speaker 2: Out, yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 1: And then sometimes I'm like just watching and I forget
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Speaker 1: what episode number we're on until I have to go
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Speaker 1: click it to like watch. Yes. Also, it really threw
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Speaker 1: me off because when I had to go start watching
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Speaker 1: Gilmore on Hulu, I had to actually like go to
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Speaker 1: the episode to watch because yes, Like usually my my
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Speaker 1: Netflix was like, oh, here's the next episode, and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: oh no, I have to go, like I've never watched
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Speaker 1: it on Hulus, so like I had to like it.
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Speaker 1: Basically Hulu thinks that I've never seen Gilmore Girls basically yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well, and my Hulu, I don't know if it's I
13:47
Speaker 2: don't know if it's just a Hulu thing or what.
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Speaker 2: But it never like when it says resume like whatever episode,
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Speaker 2: it doesn't resume that episode. Like I'll tap it and
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Speaker 2: then it will pull up something completely different.
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Speaker 1: Okay, mine does work, like I would say nine out
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Speaker 1: of ten times, it's always correct. But what I've noticed
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Speaker 1: is I've gone to different episodes of different shows to
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Speaker 1: watch out of order because in case like we're talking
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Speaker 1: about something or I pull up something like I want
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Speaker 1: to go back to, and it so like I was
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Speaker 1: watching because I'm rebinging nine to one once for the
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Speaker 1: hell of it, and I was on like season one,
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Speaker 1: and then I was towards the end of the season
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Speaker 1: and I think maybe I like, I don't know what happened.
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Speaker 1: Then suddenly when the next episode and it was like
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Speaker 1: season two episode like six out of nowhere and I
14:35
Speaker 1: was like, hold on, that doesn't seem right, Like we're yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'd introduced this character that never anyway, it rarely happens
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Speaker 1: to me, but like it does. And also on Hulu
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Speaker 1: it's harder to find you're continued watching. You have to
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Speaker 1: really scroll down. Yes, it's like five tabs down.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. It always it always wants to like
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Speaker 2: take me to the main page for the show.
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Speaker 1: What always wants to suggest new things for me, So
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Speaker 1: we either have to suggest what's new, or it's like
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Speaker 1: you've watched this, so you'll enjoy this. And I'm like,
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Speaker 1: but I don't want to watch that right exactly.
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Speaker 2: It's like I just want to pick up where I
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Speaker 2: left off.
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Speaker 1: Damn it. Oh but anyway, back to it all with
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Speaker 1: the Liz and jess and we do get TJ the
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Speaker 1: next episode, That's what Jessy said. So yes, so it
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Speaker 1: actually all comes pretty quickly, like we're not really the
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Speaker 1: Liz of it all, we're not dragging on. I means, yeah,
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Speaker 1: get introduced, and then she's fully in.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so I I like the next episode, So
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Speaker 2: why I want to say about that one? But I
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Speaker 2: had a fun personal fact on this episode. So in
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Speaker 2: the towards the beginning, when Lorelai is waiting for Jason
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Speaker 2: to come to her house to pick it up, to
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Speaker 2: pick her up, and she's sitting there, she picks up
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Speaker 2: the clock and looks at it. I have that exact clock.
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Speaker 2: I don't really share that with it. I remember the
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Speaker 2: very first time I watched this episode, I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 2: my gosh.
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Speaker 1: That's my clock. It's like how I've had like the
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Speaker 1: same lamp from my Kiya on like multiple shows. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: this's my lamp. It's been like eighteen shows. It's just
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Speaker 1: like a plane lamp. Like I know. They went to
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Speaker 1: Ike and Burbank for sure. So funny. Did you have
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Speaker 1: any other call out this episode?
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Speaker 2: You know, I didn't. I thought we almost had a
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Speaker 2: clown pillow.
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Speaker 1: I thought so too, I know exactly what you're talking about,
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Speaker 1: and I had to It was.
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Speaker 2: The top edge of it. But then when in a
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Speaker 2: different shot you could see more of it and it
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Speaker 2: wasn't the clown.
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Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, it was. It looked like it,
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Speaker 1: but it was a little too orange instead of red.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: But I thought this, I know exactly the same scene
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Speaker 1: because I paused it and I was like, oh, clown pillow.
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Speaker 1: We haven't seen it, and we haven't.
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Speaker 2: Seen it in a while. It's been a couple episodes.
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Speaker 2: Know that they did stop using it at some point.
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Speaker 2: It looks like, oh, I guess this hasn't been that long.
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Speaker 2: We saw it in episode nine.
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Speaker 1: I mean we're on episode twelve. It's been a minute.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's the last time.
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Speaker 1: When I when I realized that wasn't a clown pillow
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Speaker 1: and I realized this episode was directed by Kenny Ortega.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I wonder if Kenny was like, why is
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Speaker 1: this pillow here and just like.
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Speaker 2: Took it outy.
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Speaker 1: Next episode we're going to talk about is season four,
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Speaker 1: episode thirteen, nagh Hamadi is where they found the Gnostic Gospel?
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Speaker 1: Did I say that right?
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Speaker 2: I think so? Yes.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not gonna be honest with you. I don't
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Speaker 1: think I've ever seen or read the title of this episode,
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Speaker 1: but there it is. I mean, no, I've seen it.
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Speaker 1: I've never seen it written out like that, but I
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Speaker 1: and we'll see you next week meeting adjourn. Hey, everybody,
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