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Mac & Bone Show - David Cone Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: All right, now we got them David Cone, Crane and Coen.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 3: Well, look, I hope you can hear me now, but
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  Speaker 3: if you're talking about David Cone the pitcher, let me
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  Speaker 3: just say this.
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  Speaker 2: I never pitched for the Mets as the Braves.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, you're scoring points with a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Braves fans listening. Oh man, all right, I.
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't pitch for the Yankees for that matter.
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  Speaker 1: But oh no, sleep So what do you think there's
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  Speaker 1: been so much conversation. I know you guys have been
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  Speaker 1: talking about it too, about the fact that the SEC
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  Speaker 1: has not been in a title game for three years
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  Speaker 1: and a Big ten's got three straight titles. What's your opinion, like,
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  Speaker 1: can this be the year that the SEC gets back
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  Speaker 1: in the game wins the championship or or do you
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  Speaker 1: feel like this might not they might not break the schneid.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think?
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  Speaker 3: Well, sure, every year could be the year that it happens,
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  Speaker 3: because there's too much passion, there's too much money, and
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  Speaker 3: there's too much.
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  Speaker 2: Talent here in the South.
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  Speaker 3: I think what has surprised me most is not just
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  Speaker 3: not winning a CHAMPIONHI in three years, but like you
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  Speaker 3: alluded to not even having a team in the national
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  Speaker 3: championship game. That is shocking after the run that they
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  Speaker 3: went on. But what I try and remind Big ten people, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: Big Tens having a moment right now. Three consecutive national
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  Speaker 3: champions with three different teams. But man, the onus was
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  Speaker 3: on them to finally do something right. I mean, you're
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  Speaker 3: talking about what the SEC had thirteen of seventeen national
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  Speaker 3: champions and it really wasn't like that when I was
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  Speaker 3: growing up. When I fell in love with college football.
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  Speaker 3: You have to understand, I was watching Miami have a dynasty.
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  Speaker 3: Florida State just won a championship with Chris Winky. I
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  Speaker 3: was a big Florida State fan. USC had a dynasty.
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State was good. Oklahoma was not in the SEC
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  Speaker 3: at that time, they were good. I watched Vince Young
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  Speaker 3: in Texas, not in the SEC, win a championship, and
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  Speaker 3: so there were really great college football programs all over
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  Speaker 3: the country. Virginia Tech and Michael Vick went to a
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  Speaker 3: national championship. But when I got into college in two
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  Speaker 3: thousand and six, the SEC went on this run, and
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  Speaker 3: they went on it.
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  Speaker 2: With so many different teams.
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  Speaker 3: But then also what Nick Saban was able to do
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  Speaker 3: at Alabama with one of the greatest dynasties we've ever seen,
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  Speaker 3: stacking talent. I mean, your fourth string running back is
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  Speaker 3: playing in the NFL for ten or twelve years, Like
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  Speaker 3: that's just absolutely unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: And the game has changed now.
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  Speaker 3: College football is different, for better or for worse, and
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  Speaker 3: these programs are able to flex their muscles with spending money,
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  Speaker 3: and the Big Ten said, man, we're tired of getting bullied.
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  Speaker 3: We need to do something about it. And I think,
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  Speaker 3: quite frankly, these last few years have been good for
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  Speaker 3: the SEC because now they are going to respond. Is
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  Speaker 3: it going to be this season that maybe Texas finally
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  Speaker 3: gets over the hump and wins the national championship, or
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  Speaker 3: maybe Kirby Smart gets back on top of that mountaintop
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  Speaker 3: with Georgia, or maybe maybe we get a surprise like
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  Speaker 3: an Oklahoma or LSU or something like that. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if it'll be this season, but I do think
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  Speaker 3: the SEC is going to respond.
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  Speaker 4: How do they respond? David? In terms of I'll put
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  Speaker 4: it this way, we know who the national title contenders
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  Speaker 4: are right now in the Big Ten. When you look
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  Speaker 4: at the SEC, how many teams do you view as
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  Speaker 4: true national title contenders right now?
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  Speaker 2: So we actually did this this week.
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  Speaker 3: I have two different tiers right now, okay, and it's
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  Speaker 3: actually up to fifteen teams. And you guys may think
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  Speaker 3: I'm crazy, and if you do, like I said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: this is what we're here for you, So you can
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  Speaker 3: call me crazy. And I don't have all the lists
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  Speaker 3: right in front of me, but two different tiers right now.
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  Speaker 3: The first tier is seven teams that I think could
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  Speaker 3: win the national title this year. And I wouldn't blink once, right,
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  Speaker 3: So that is those three teams in the Big ten
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  Speaker 3: that you talked about with Oregon, Ohio State, Indiana, and
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  Speaker 3: then the SEC.
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  Speaker 2: That's Texas, that's Georgia.
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  Speaker 3: You still got Notre Dame I think would go on
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  Speaker 3: that list, Miami even in the ACC. I think that's
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  Speaker 3: seven right there that could win the national title. But
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  Speaker 3: then I've got another eight teams that I think could
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  Speaker 3: win the national championship.
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  Speaker 2: Again, this is.
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  Speaker 3: Coming off the heels of Indiana going sixteen and oh, fellas,
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  Speaker 3: who would have thought that a year ago? Sixteen and oh,
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  Speaker 3: one of the losingest programs in the history of our sport.
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  Speaker 3: They're the reigning national champs, another eight teams that if
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  Speaker 3: they won the national title this year, I would blink
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  Speaker 3: once and I'd be a bit surprised, but I wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: be shocked. And that does include like what if Alabama
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  Speaker 3: figures it out? What if they get quarterback played the
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  Speaker 3: same way that they got from a first year starter
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  Speaker 3: last year in Ty Simpson Oklahoma. I'm big on Oklahoma
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  Speaker 3: seven and a half right now on the over under
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  Speaker 3: win total. I think that's just absolutely egregious. What if
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  Speaker 3: LSU and Lane Kiffin yere one with a forty million
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  Speaker 3: dollar roster? What if they figured out Ole Miss? Everybody's
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  Speaker 3: trying to sell Ole Miss now because Lane Kiffin and
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  Speaker 3: Charlie West Junior left out of town, Trinidad Chambliss and
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  Speaker 3: Keywan Lacy, that's going to be the best backfield in
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  Speaker 3: the country week one starting, so Ole Miss has a chance.
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  Speaker 3: To me, what if Michigan ends up being better than
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  Speaker 3: we think usc? USC returns their quarterback, Lincoln Riley knows
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  Speaker 3: how to run an offense. Gary Patterson comes over to
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  Speaker 3: run that defense. Now, if they can't figure it out
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  Speaker 3: on defense this year, they never will. I think USC
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  Speaker 3: is going to have a good football team. Maybe they
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  Speaker 3: could make a run in this era. If you can
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  Speaker 3: make the college Football Playoff, you at least give yourself
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  Speaker 3: a chance. Texas A and M is going to be
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  Speaker 3: a good football team.
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  Speaker 2: Tech.
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  Speaker 3: This Tech is going to be a good football team
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  Speaker 3: even without Brendan Sorosby.
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  Speaker 2: So that's double.
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  Speaker 3: Digit teams right there that I think could at least
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  Speaker 3: be in the national title hunt. And when if we
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  Speaker 3: ever said that that many teams could be in the hunt.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, you know, I could quibble with
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  Speaker 1: like a couple there at the end you mentioned, but
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  Speaker 1: not that many. I think your point stands that college
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  Speaker 1: football has changed here in the NIL era. You just
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  Speaker 1: brought up. The number one example of it is the
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  Speaker 1: way Indiana went out there and won the title at
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  Speaker 1: sixteen and zero. There is such a feeling now of
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  Speaker 1: increased parody, and I just think it's so good for
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  Speaker 1: the sport. Is kooky and crazy as as some of
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  Speaker 1: this drama is with eligibility and NIL and lack of
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  Speaker 1: rules and judges and all this stuff, the sport of
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  Speaker 1: college football when it comes to competition, I think it's
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  Speaker 1: improved because of this era.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, there are pros and cons. And look, I
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  Speaker 3: go down to the cigar lounge here in Middle tennis See.
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  Speaker 3: We're based out of here in Nashville, and I talk
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  Speaker 3: to a lot of these guys, a lot of Tennessee fans,
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  Speaker 3: but really football fans from all over the country, you know,
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  Speaker 3: have congregated here, and I try and keep my finger
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  Speaker 3: on the pulse of what the community's saying. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people certainly are frustrated. Particularly it's not
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  Speaker 3: about guys getting paid. That's the number one thing I
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  Speaker 3: mean this is this is a meritocratic nation. We are
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  Speaker 3: we are pro free market. I never heard someone say, well,
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  Speaker 3: I love college football because the guys out there playing
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  Speaker 3: they're not getting paid. That's why I love it. No,
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  Speaker 3: if these guys can add value to their lives from
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  Speaker 3: a skill set that they have, that's fantastic. I think
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  Speaker 3: what frustrates a lot of people is the the the
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  Speaker 3: lack of loyalty in the game now, so switching teams
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  Speaker 3: every single year, switching programs. You can't keep a roster together.
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  Speaker 3: You have to get to, we know, a roster every
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  Speaker 3: single year. It's even worse on the basketball side. That's
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  Speaker 3: what people and that's understanding. People went to university and
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  Speaker 3: sort of committed their times. I do understand that the time,
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  Speaker 3: like you said, the flip side of it is, we're
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  Speaker 3: talking about a lot of different programs who are really good.
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  Speaker 3: You're getting to see a lot of different players get
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  Speaker 3: to play because of that and not sit behind other
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  Speaker 3: guys for a long time, and so the parody has increased.
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  Speaker 3: And hopefully, hopefully if we can get some leadership in
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  Speaker 3: this sport, we can keep the good while also creating
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  Speaker 3: some solutions for the problems that are bad.
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  Speaker 4: Right now, you mentioned in your your Tears breakdown Miami
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  Speaker 4: was in there. I know you guys had a discussion
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  Speaker 4: the other day about the Hurricanes. What are your thoughts
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  Speaker 4: on the Canes this year and in the in the
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  Speaker 4: championship tier? Like how high up do you have them
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  Speaker 4: right now?
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  Speaker 2: I'm very.
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  Speaker 3: All right quarterback watch, wide receiver corps is going to
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  Speaker 3: be good. But Texas A and M schedule so hard
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  Speaker 3: that I don't know if they can navigate through that.
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  Speaker 2: But you look at Miami.
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  Speaker 3: Miami I think is going to be a really good
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  Speaker 3: team and I don't even think they get tested really
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  Speaker 3: that much. For the first half of the season, assuming
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  Speaker 3: they are going to be focused and not going to
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  Speaker 3: Miami always threw the cl a lot of times. They
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  Speaker 3: still win that game, so has built a roster over
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  Speaker 3: there with Miami that combined with Jil, I think they're
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  Speaker 3: going to be in contention.
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  Speaker 2: Darien Mins is the heck of a.
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  Speaker 3: Quarterback man a thousand years at Duke a season ago,
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  Speaker 3: and comes over with the bark kid who's playing wide receiver.
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  Speaker 3: The question is are they going to be able to
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  Speaker 3: dominate on the defensive side of the football like Bain
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  Speaker 3: and Mesador on that front four were able to do
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  Speaker 3: last year, and that's why they went on that college
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  Speaker 3: football playoff run that they went on. It wasn't because
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  Speaker 3: of the offense, and they kind of became a run
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  Speaker 3: first team and Mark Fletcher's running back returns this year.
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  Speaker 3: There's just a lot of really good pieces and I
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  Speaker 3: think in the thick of it at the end.
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  Speaker 1: Of the year, I agree, Man, I agree. He is
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  Speaker 1: David Cohne. The show is Crane and Cone, great college
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  Speaker 1: them out. Thank you so much, David, appreciate you brother.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you great day. Thanks for having me