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- 0:05Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here is what's on the front. I'm
- 0:07Speaker 1: Claire Harvey. It's Thursday November twenty twenty twenty five. What
- 0:14Speaker 1: if we could lift a million Australians out of poverty
- 0:17Speaker 1: and guarantee their kids a great education while helping ensure
- 0:21Speaker 1: they save work and secure their own future. A new
- 0:25Speaker 1: idea for a nationwide overhaul of welfare and responsibility that
- 0:30Speaker 1: could actually work because the organization behind the idea has
- 0:34Speaker 1: done it before. Today the Cape York Partnership's big dream
- 0:40Speaker 1: of giving the bottom million a fair go.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Account.
- 1:01Speaker 1: It's the very northernmost tip of Australia, on the right
- 1:04Speaker 1: hand side of the map, stretching from the Gulf of
- 1:06Speaker 1: Carpenteria up into the warm waters of the Coral Sea
- 1:10Speaker 1: is Cape York. It's your typical tropical paradise, white sand beaches,
- 1:16Speaker 1: drenching monsoonal rains, lots of crocs, and it's also home
- 1:20Speaker 1: to one of Australia's most interesting organizations, the Cape York Partnership.
- 1:25Speaker 1: It's a nonprofit founded by Aboriginal lawyer and activist Noel
- 1:30Speaker 1: Pearson and run by Chief executive Fiona Jos. They do
- 1:34Speaker 1: a lot of things but one of them is running
- 1:36Speaker 1: Jarragon College, a prep to year twelve high school that
- 1:40Speaker 1: educates kids from Cape York and the Torres Strait. What
- 1:44Speaker 1: you're hearing is the Jarragon kids singing their school song,
- 1:48Speaker 1: all about hope, opportunity and responsibility.
- 1:54Speaker 2: The spiritualness.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Part of the school is the Cape York Girl Academy,
- 2:18Speaker 1: a separate campus where young moms can board with their
- 2:22Speaker 1: babies and learn how to be great parents while completing
- 2:26Speaker 1: year twelve and getting ready for further education or work.
- 2:30Speaker 1: The partnership also runs a Cape York Leaders Program, which
- 2:34Speaker 1: is given more than six hundred young people secondary and
- 2:38Speaker 1: tertiary scholarships to top tier boarding schools and universities around Australia.
- 2:43Speaker 1: It all boils down to a philosophy about education that
- 2:48Speaker 1: to lift themselves out of the poverty, endemic and remote Australia,
- 2:52Speaker 1: young people need a first class education they simply cannot
- 2:57Speaker 1: get at home.
- 3:11Speaker 2: As Dagon move.
- 3:16Speaker 1: Every year, kids from Cape York and the Torres Strait
- 3:19Speaker 1: travel more than a thousand kilometers south to Cans so
- 3:23Speaker 1: they can go to Jarragon College and the Girl Academy.
- 3:26Speaker 1: They get an incredible education full of support and discipline.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Kids lucky enough to get into the Cape York Leaders
- 3:33Speaker 1: program go to the country's best boarding schools, But what
- 3:37Speaker 1: about the rest.
- 3:39Speaker 3: The quality of the high schools in remote communities is
- 3:43Speaker 3: frankly not there.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Page Taylor is The Australian's Indigenous Affairs editor.
- 3:49Speaker 3: I don't think anyone would try to argue that you
- 3:52Speaker 3: can get a top notch high school education at a
- 3:56Speaker 3: very remote school. It's just not possible. Every year on
- 4:00Speaker 3: Cape York there are three hundred and forty kids ready
- 4:03Speaker 3: to go to high school. A really small number can
- 4:06Speaker 3: go to boarding school, less than a quarter of that.
- 4:09Speaker 3: So Cape York Partnership is saying the opportunity to go
- 4:13Speaker 3: to a really good boarding school should be open to
- 4:16Speaker 3: all of those children.
- 4:18Speaker 1: The Cape York Partnership's been around for thirty years and
- 4:21Speaker 1: they've enacted a series of really ambitious reforms in collaboration
- 4:25Speaker 1: with government.
- 4:26Speaker 3: I think probably the most headline grabbing reform is the
- 4:30Speaker 3: Family Responsibilities Commission, which acts like a tribunal. These are
- 4:34Speaker 3: local people who make decisions. Perhaps they get a tip
- 4:36Speaker 3: off from their education department, a referral they call it.
- 4:40Speaker 3: Mister Jones's kid has not been coming to school something
- 4:43Speaker 3: like that, and they have a pretty thorough conversation about
- 4:48Speaker 3: mister Jones's situation. They listen to mister Jones and they
- 4:52Speaker 3: all make a decision. Does this person get a warning?
- 4:55Speaker 3: Does this person need some support? Does this person actually
- 4:59Speaker 3: need some welfare control so that their welfare can only
- 5:04Speaker 3: be used for food and other essentials until they learn
- 5:07Speaker 3: to manage a bit better. And that's been a system
- 5:11Speaker 3: that has worked a lot better from what I understand,
- 5:15Speaker 3: than the cashlist debit card, which was blanket reform. Didn't
- 5:19Speaker 3: matter if you were managing yourself well or not. You're
- 5:22Speaker 3: on it if you're in that region. And the other
- 5:25Speaker 3: thing about the welfare reform in Cape York is that
- 5:28Speaker 3: you can come off that welfare control if the Family
- 5:31Speaker 3: Responsibility is commissioned decides that you've been traveling really well
- 5:35Speaker 3: and that'll be lifted.
- 5:39Speaker 1: On Tuesday in Sydney, Fiona Joe's, the boss of Cape
- 5:41Speaker 1: Your Partnership, made a speech calling on politicians to support
- 5:45Speaker 1: a bill in both the Commonwealth and Queensland parliaments. The
- 5:49Speaker 1: bill would use these big ideas nationally to give the
- 5:53Speaker 1: most impoverished families across Australia regardless of race, a big
- 5:58Speaker 1: incentive and help to get out of the welfare trap.
- 6:02Speaker 1: It's based on a piece of legislation introduced in the
- 6:05Speaker 1: US towards the end of World War II, the GI Bill,
- 6:09Speaker 1: which offered returning veterans, subsidized education and mortgages to get
- 6:14Speaker 1: into housing, low interest loans to start businesses, and opportunities
- 6:18Speaker 1: to get vocational training and a job. The partnership's idea
- 6:22Speaker 1: is for the Personal Responsibility and Opportunity Act to make
- 6:26Speaker 1: that idea page just explained national, each family and child
- 6:31Speaker 1: gets a plan to stay in school, manage their money effectively,
- 6:35Speaker 1: and save for home ownership.
- 6:40Speaker 3: Cape York Partnership is talking about responsibility and opportunity. It
- 6:45Speaker 3: sounds like an abstract kind of thing to say, but
- 6:47Speaker 3: their point is when a parent commits to the responsibility
- 6:52Speaker 3: of sending their child to school, the government then has
- 6:58Speaker 3: an obligation to make sure that the child is taught
- 7:01Speaker 3: and that the quality of their education is really a
- 7:05Speaker 3: good one. What Cape YOURK Partnership is saying is this
- 7:10Speaker 3: idea has very wide application. Parents have a duty and
- 7:14Speaker 3: a responsibility to raise their children well, to look after
- 7:18Speaker 3: their health from a very early age to take care
- 7:21Speaker 3: of their children from conception so that they are developmentally
- 7:27Speaker 3: on track. And when they meet those obligations, the state
- 7:32Speaker 3: then has an obligation to teach them well, to give
- 7:35Speaker 3: them a quality education, and to help them graduate from
- 7:40Speaker 3: year twelve with an actual outcome like a leaving certificate
- 7:44Speaker 3: or equivalent, not just you attended until year twelve.
- 7:50Speaker 1: Coming up, why common sense ideas about education are actually
- 7:55Speaker 1: pretty radical. Education is call to Noel Pearson's philosophy about
- 8:07Speaker 1: lifting people out of poverty. What does he say is
- 8:10Speaker 1: the kind of education that people who are at risk
- 8:13Speaker 1: of ending up on welfare need.
- 8:16Speaker 3: Noel Pearson's very clear, and so is everyone at the CAPE.
- 8:19Speaker 3: Your partnership that year twelve graduation is the powerhouse. And
- 8:23Speaker 3: that doesn't mean you stayed at school enrolled until year
- 8:27Speaker 3: twelve was finished. I think there is a big difference.
- 8:30Speaker 3: It means graduating with it what they call an education outcome.
- 8:33Speaker 3: You get a certificate that is recognized and useful. And
- 8:38Speaker 3: what they've done through the CAPE, your leader's program is
- 8:42Speaker 3: track the kids who've been through year twelve and got
- 8:45Speaker 3: a graduation, and it really does change the life trajectory now.
- 8:50Speaker 1: Noel Pearson as an individual has kind of been fighting
- 8:53Speaker 1: the trends that go through education for years.
- 8:58Speaker 4: There is still a resident elude resistance and obscurantism in
- 9:04Speaker 4: relation to the teaching of letter sound relationships in English.
- 9:10Speaker 1: He famously delivered the boy A Lectures a few years
- 9:13Speaker 1: ago explaining why direct instruction, which is where a teacher
- 9:17Speaker 1: tells the class something that the teacher knows and the
- 9:19Speaker 1: class doesn't know, or teaches something like reading with a
- 9:23Speaker 1: simple system like phonics, why those traditional forms of education
- 9:27Speaker 1: need to come back, as opposed to the kind of
- 9:30Speaker 1: child led learning that became very fashionable in the eighties
- 9:34Speaker 1: and nineties.
- 9:35Speaker 4: One of my ancestral languages is Google Yamada. If you
- 9:41Speaker 4: were to learn my language, I would need to explicitly
- 9:45Speaker 4: teach you a number of phonemes that are sounds of
- 9:50Speaker 4: the gurgle emadad alphabet, unfamiliar to English speakers. One of
- 9:56Speaker 4: them is the phoneme nah written n H. It is
- 10:02Speaker 4: formed by putting your tongue at the back of your
- 10:05Speaker 4: top teeth. The grope of fish is called ninini. Another
- 10:12Speaker 4: phoneme common to Australian Aboriginal languages is spelt ng. English
- 10:21Speaker 4: speakers know this phoneme at the end of words like
- 10:26Speaker 4: bring and sing, but would have to explicitly learn it
- 10:32Speaker 4: because numerous Google imi the words start with such as nulli,
- 10:39Speaker 4: you and i and nandan us. They would also need
- 10:45Speaker 4: to learn the trilled r, such as in muara bad
- 10:52Speaker 4: and kangaroo. Kangaroo is common to Australian languages that undo English,
- 11:01Speaker 4: so I would need to explicitly teach you these phonemes.
- 11:07Speaker 1: Not Peason's ideas if you don't know much about the topic,
- 11:10Speaker 1: seem extremely common sense and kind of ordinary. But actually
- 11:15Speaker 1: they're quite radical, aren't they.
- 11:17Speaker 3: I think it is radical to some people. And there
- 11:19Speaker 3: is a whole generation of teachers who went through university
- 11:23Speaker 3: being taught about child led learning, where you follow the
- 11:27Speaker 3: child's interests and intuition, and so having a situation where
- 11:32Speaker 3: the teacher calls out a word and the children spell
- 11:35Speaker 3: it back to them again and again. That's quite a
- 11:38Speaker 3: big difference in techniques. I've been in classrooms where people
- 11:43Speaker 3: have been teaching using that direct instruction method and versions
- 11:46Speaker 3: of it that. There's another one called explicit instruction, and
- 11:51Speaker 3: it does sound very dogmatic and staccato, but the results
- 11:57Speaker 3: are there, and you can see the kids learning the
- 12:01Speaker 3: deep structure of language. As the lesson goes on, no
- 12:04Speaker 3: one's left behind. They don't move on until everyone's got it.
- 12:14Speaker 1: Page Taylor is The Australian's Indigenous Affairs editor. You can
- 12:17Speaker 1: check out all her journalism right now at the Australian
- 12:20Speaker 1: dot com dot a yu