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Trekcast 386: Let's Talk Sports · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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Tracks, the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast. I don't hear any music
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there? It is, there's the music there. We are. Hello and
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welcome to Trek Cast, the Galaxy's most unpredictable Star Trek podcast. I am
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one of your hosts, Buck Bookay with me as always apparently is also Buck
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Bookay Daniel So Buck Buck and Dan Daniel or is it? Or is it
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Buck Daniel Buck? What's the what's the order? How do you want to
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do it? Yeah? I figure alphabetical, right, yeah? So did
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you did you? Did you see me in the thing? And and I'm
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just like I was looking at the one from last week. I'm like,
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moopsie, Well I don't have moopsy today, so I need to change my
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username. And I'm like, what are we doing today? We're talking about
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baseball? What's the only baseball track name? I know? All right?
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For those who don't know, Buck book I played for the for the London
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Kings in uh in the fictional baseball team in the Star Trek universe. He
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was he was Cisco's favorite player. I think they I think he played with
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him on the Holidack or something or or yeh. He showed up in a
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in an episode where right, yeah, yeah, some alliens were taking stuff
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from Yeah, there's there is the Great Buck Book. I the Great Buck
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BOOKAI. Yep, that's great. Well late, because it's my fault,
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so sorry, guys. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, it's fine.
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He had to Daniel had to run out and meet his bookie. That's right,
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Taylor Swift, she's gonna win tonight. You know, it's crazy.
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People are getting mad. Yeah, they're getting They're getting mad that a twenty
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five year old girl is going to the super Bowl. Shut up, So
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what exact exactly? Who cares? Whether nobody cares? You don't like her?
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I mean, I I know who Taylor's I know who Taylor Swift is.
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I couldn't name a Taylor Swift song for you if if I tried,
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if I if I heard them on the radio, I could probably pick her
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out and say, oh yeah, I think this is Taylor Swift. But
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as long as you don't have bad blood with her for good, you're not
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ANX I know that Swift. What's that? Well, if you're a bad
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if you're an next boyfriend of Taylor Swift, you're definitely gonna hear about it.
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Oh for sure, for sure, Yeah, you'll be the anti.
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So as long as none of us have dated her, where we should all
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be Okay, Well, I guess you know. It's just it's so weird.
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It's so weird that there's people that are just like they hate her,
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yeah for for what though, Well that's what they hate her for no reason.
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Yeah, that's the weird thing. Like I don't have I don't really
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have an opinion of her that much. Yeah, like I don't you know,
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I kind of feel like she should be doing the halftime show though,
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not usure, but you know, I think that I think people would be
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more crazy. Oh do you think they would? Yeah, they would lose
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their they would lose their crap. Yeah, the way the way people scream
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scream about nepotism and stuff nowadays. Right. The only thing I know about
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sorry, the only thing I know about Taylor Swift. The thing I don't
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know if I mentioned this, if there's a conversation d with you guys or
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somebody else, But the only thing that I remember reading about her a couple
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of weeks ago was she was at a football game in one of the boxes
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because you know, yeah, she's Taylor Swift and you know, there was
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a bunch of other people and she stood up and, like I don't know,
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went to the bathroom and went to get a drink or something. And
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as she left, she went around and picked up a bunch of empty cups
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and plates and threw them away. Okay. And and when I read that,
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I'm like, oh, okay, so she she didn't get the diva
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memo, which is good, you know. Yeah. I respect that more
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about her than any of any song I may or may not. Yeah,
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So hopefully if Dan was in that same box, he would be like,
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that's for the little people to take care of. I got people. I
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got people for that. That's right. That's right, I got people for
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that. One of them is named Daniel. The other one is named right,
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that's right. Yeah, we would pick up after you. Absolutely Jesus.
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Swifties. Is that like a track but a Taylor? I think so
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Swifties? Well, you know whatever, whatever. Yeah, you guys doing
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anything for the big game tonight? Uh have friends over? Yeah, going
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to the in laws where we eat like uh like bar food nice? Usually,
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Well we'll just do a spread of bar food. Yeah. My daughter
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is is young enough that she knows absolutely nothing about football and even less about
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the Super Bowl, So if you ask her, we're going to a pizza
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party, so you know. And yeah, I'm more excited about in the
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game. So yeah, same. I just want to see the movie trailers.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, so hopefully we got a Deadpool one.
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That's what I'm hoping for very much. So I just watched The Marbles.
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Oh yeah, I think I liked it. It was good. It's fun.
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It had a very cool end credit scene. But I won't spoil,
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but yeah, it was I thought it was a good movie. I don't
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understand the hate on it. I don't understand the the two star reviews.
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It was. I think it was a perfectly serviceable It was the victim of
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there's there was too many lesser Marble outings recently. Yeah, people just had
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it. Yeah, but it was a perfectly fine film, Larson, like
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everybody else does. Yep. I I haven't seen it yet. I fully
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planned to see it. I didn't see it in the theater. It just
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came out on a Disney Plus so yeah. Yeah, I think, uh,
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a lot of the hate is just left over from the last one.
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Yeah. Sure, they brought they brought the character. They brought the character
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into the MCU halfway through the fourth quarter to use a football term, halfway
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through the fourth water and had her swoop in as a somewhat of a savior.
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And it's like, hey, they've been building this franchise for ten years
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at this point, who is this person that swoops in at the last minute.
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So I think that I think a lot of it stems from that,
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oh for sure, for sure. Yeah, but yeah, I thought it
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was pretty good. Even Tabar says he thought the Marvels was good. He
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doesn't get the hate either. So yeah, and while I didn't watch it,
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somebody, somebody online ruined the post credit scene for yeah, months and
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months. Yeah, yeahs as they as they always do. You're an idiot
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because I'm like, oh, look I know that character. Yeah. Well,
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should we get to the news, Absolutely sure. All right, So
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our first new story is for Dan. We're getting some more talk about Star
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Trek Discovery, I know you want to know about for those for those listening,
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for those listening, Uh, you know, I got really excited when
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he said he had a story for me. You know, my uh,
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I just collapsed. Everyone knows my posture just completely changed. I don't care.
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Check. Yeah, so if they interviewed sneakl Martin glareen Over on trekmovie
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dot com and she talked a little bit about what we can expect for Discovery
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season five. She you know, every year, big things, big things
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are coming. But one thing that she said that I that I'm really surprised
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was kind of burying the headline. She talked about a tonal shift for Discovery.
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What does that mean? You know what? Will they be more lighthearted?
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Will they have more fun? I don't know, but there's gonna be
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a tonal shift. So they're going to travel further in the future and they're
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gonna make her cry even more. That's right, big, yes, Yeah,
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so that's that. I thought that was kind of interesting. I guess
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we'll see. I did see that they announced in I think it's April fourth
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or the release date for Star Tric Discovery season five. Okay, yeah,
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so early day before first contact. Yeah, just in time, right,
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but yeah, so I'm trying to see what I can find. But yeah,
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so early April we'll have it and we'll start reviewing those episodes. Cool,
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looking forward to it. Yeah. The next is uh, the next
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story comes us from game rant dot com and they interviewed John Delancey Q about
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Star Trek legacy. We're kind of getting a mixed bag about this. So
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in the Delancey interview, he is not very uh. He doesn't think it's
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gonna happen. He thinks that at this point they've missed their window, and
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you know, if the fans really push for it, maybe, but he
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doesn't see it happening. But also this week, Terry Mettalis was interviewed at
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the Saturn Awards and he was much more chipper about it. He said that
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they have already allocated money for like Academy and the other projects, but there's
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nothing on the table right now for a legacy. But he thinks, you
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know, could be though fans really want it, So I guess we'll wait
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and see. So I don't think the window has closed. No Picard Season
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one dropped, you know, twenty years after right Nemesis, right that that
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window, that window is open and it's painted and it's painted open. You
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know it's not going anywhere. That window is always open always. Also,
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the people that decide, you know, at whatever studio owns Trek, now
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it's it's always it's always hard to tell with who as far as like parent
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companies and stuff. But anyways, if you want a good barometer of what
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your fans want, go online and look at the fan art, because there's
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a ton of fan art depicting uh Star Trek Legacy. They got some awesome
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you know, fan made posters that you know, look amazing and it's you
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know, like I said, if you want to take the temperature, look
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at the fan art. Everybody's taking fan out about start Trek Legacy with the
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Seven of Nine and the Raffis and and and the jack Crushers and stuff,
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and then and the Enterprise and just look, take a look at that.
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That's where the that's the direction you want to know what direction to go?
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There you go, there's your sign. Yeah, well don't just just don't
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take temperature with a barometer pressure. That's right, thank you. Sorry,
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And I bicked up my logical. Sorry my tray quarter settings were a little
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off. Yeah, I don't explain the settings. Yes, all right,
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how do you scan with this thing? Again? I forgot? That's just
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hold holding up holding up to your forehead you that oh, somebody called it
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warning warning, NERD alert, nerd alert, you ever gave you a nerd
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alert for theatre. Yeah, that's fine, that's fine, all right.
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In our last news, I host a Star Trek, I host a Star
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Trek podcast. That you think calling me a nerd hurts my feelings? Exactly?
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We are past that, sure, all right. I last from us
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from trekmovie dot com. And they recently interviewed Nicholas Cage. So if you
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remember, like maybe a month or so ago, he did an interview where
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he talked about how he's a treky and he would love to do Star Trek.
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So they were following up with him saying, hey, so what's up
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with that, and he basically came out and said, yeah, he's had
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some talks about it. He's interested. If he's going to do it,
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he wants to be on the bridge of a ship, preferably the Enterprise.
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But he's down. So now that we're on our fifteenth rendition of Star Trek
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four, maybe they'll put him in that. Here's the thing though, Yeah,
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someone with his level of fame, if you're going to have him on
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the bridge of the Enterprise, he's gonna want to be the captain right that
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ship. He's it's not going to be you know, and Nicholas Cage as
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Helmsman Brown. You know that's not that's that's not going to happen. And
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as far as them making a new version of Star Trek with the Enterprise built
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around Nicholas Cage, I don't know. I don't know if I see that
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he's also open to being a villain and just having his own ship. I
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thought he said he wanted to. He preferably said he wants to be on
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the bridge of the Enterprise. I just had shows up there and take over.
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We could we could fulfill all of Nicholas Cage's fantasies by making it a
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crossover and it can be the crew of the USS Enterprise against the Injustice version
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of Superman. There you go, Nicholas Cage, tell me that's not gold
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boy, I m And so I don't know. Nicholas Cage was going to
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play Superman right a nineteen nineties and he got to in the Flash, And
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he got to in the Flash. Yeah, just like great Admiral, his
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likeness got to Yeah, yeah, he could do a cameo or like you
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know what you know, like in Star Wars when h Double O seven played
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a Stormtrooper Craig Daniels, you know, something like that. If he really
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wants to be you know, he can do a cameo as like a really
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done up alien or something. But he's not going to be some kind of
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front man. He's not gonna be some kind of you know, it's not
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gonna work. Yeah, I know we should. Uh, he's got a
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he's got a reputation right now of pretty much doing anything that's put in front
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of him, pretty much said some because he's had some financial trouble, So
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we should find out what it would cost to get him on the show.
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How's that CoFe account looking? Yeah? As looking. I'm gonna see if
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he's got a cameo. Okay, there you go. Maybe we can.
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Yeah, it's not looking like it. Yeah. I don't know, man,
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I would love him to be a villain. I think he'd make a
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great villain. I don't know what you would you know, I'd have to
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think about it a little bit before i'd say what what to do with him?
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I want to see him as this, uh. I want to see
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him as a starship captain, a starfleet starship captain. But his last name
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has to be po and he has to be a descendant of Cameron Poe from
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conn Air. That's my only Okay, okay, what if we do step
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Steve has to be in it too. Yeah. He plays Kirk at first,
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and then he swaps with Chris. Fine. I love it. Yea,
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take his face. That's right, he's got the golden guns. Yeah.
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I'm gonna be perfectly honest with you. I know exactly what movie you're
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talking about. You've never seen it, never seen it, zero desire.
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As soon as as soon as I saw it, I was like, the
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premise of this is so ridiculous. It's probably the most realistic movie I've ever
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seen, indeed. Okay, I mean it's up there with Fast and Furious
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ten. Yeah, which I have a terrible movie, man, But that's
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what makes it. It's one of those movies kind of wats because yeah,
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he steals a Federation tugger, which the treasure. Yeah, perfect, I
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like that, ta be? I like that answer? Yes, yeah.
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Yeah. He goes he finds Jonathan Archer, who's like three hundred years old,
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asks him to read the inscription on the back and decipher it for him.
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Because you were there, they could pay off the line from the two
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thousand and nine, start track and find porthos. They finally find there you
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go. Yeah, yeah, so there you go, redeemed Scattie. All
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right, well that's the end of the news. Let's let's get to our
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main topic. Yes, right, fun will now comment Now. I spent
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all night writing a plot summary, so can I Can I read it?
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Yeah? Yeah, go for it? Okay, here we go. What
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we're talking about first? Yeah, okay, I think you are. Yeah,
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so we we uh for for the big game? Today? We had
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a sports theme review, so we reviewed. Was it? Season seven,
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episode four of Space nine Take me Out to the Holiday? That's the baseball
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Yeah, there you go? All right, Daniel, Oh my bad.
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Okay, Scott, take it away with your with your recap. Okay,
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I apologize that this is wordy. Here's the plot summarye for This is Star
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Trek Spaces nine, season seven, episode four, Taking up Bowl Sweet You
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ready a Balkan captain challenge of Cisco to a game of baseball. Mm hmm
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that's accurate. Yes, yes, I might have plagiarized that from IMDb.
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Okay, okay, it's fun. It's fun. You can be president now,
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yeah, it's I don't know, man, it's one of my favorite
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episodes. It is also one of my favorite it is it's it's great as
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far as deep spacedine episodes, episodes that were a little weren't taken too seriously,
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this is right up there with the vic Fontaine episode where they have to
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fix vic Fontayne's life. It's it's I I really enjoyed it, and it
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was perfect in that it's right smack dab in the middle of the Dominion war
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and it's, uh, you know, it gets real serious after after this,
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a little bit of chrysal chrysalis, and then after that it's all you
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know, yeah, the Federation mostly yeah, yeah, but you know what,
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flipping flipping through the uh, flipping through the episodes to find it,
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it just reminded me that, you know, we used to get twenty five
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episodes per season for Star Trek. How ye spoiled series? How spoiled were
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we? Oh? For sure, it didn't even and we didn't even know
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it to the point where you know, yeah, they can do an episode
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like this. They can just put an hour aside and say we're gonna we're
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gonna do a We're gonna have a baseball episode. It's gonna be totally nonsensical.
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We're gonna a baseball episode, We're gonna do a musical episode. Well
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yeah, yeah, yeah, but but but Strange New Worlds is the only
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one that does stuff like that because they've gone back We've talked about that,
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they've gone back to the old format. I wish they'd go back to the
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old format and go back to the old number of of of episodes. Think
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of what think of what we could get from Strange New Worlds if they took
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the episode count and multiplied it by two and a half. Yeah, yeah,
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it would be there would be room for episodes like this. Some people
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argue that it's you know, quality over quantity. You know, how many
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episodes do you need to tell the story of an entire year? But you
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know, I'm all about more track whatever, you know, I'll gobble it
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up. But you know, some of some of my favorite episodes have nothing
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to do with the ongoing story, like this one, the one you were
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just talking about where they do the heist at the at the casino to save
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vic Fontaine, the Magnificent FORENGI that one. As far as rewatchability, Yeah,
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you know, I love that one. I love that one. You
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know, Quark Rahm and no get a bunch of Frengie idiots together and go
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to the other deep space nine to rescue Mogie. Yeah, that's gold baby,
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it's well According to the Hollywood Reporter, this was right the sixteenth best
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out of twenty episodes, out of the twenty top episodes, so this ranked
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sixteenth. Yeah, it's very well received. Yeah. I did have some
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trivia questions for you guys. Sure, all right, we'll do a few.
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Let's start. Let's start a little bit simple. What was the name
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of Jake Cisco's sports nickname, the Sider? There you go, there you
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go, Okay, Okay, bring it out. What flavor of gum did
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Miles o' brian make, scotch? Scotch? Okay? What was the name
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of the Vulcan team the logicians? The Logicians? There you go. Nice,
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That's all I had. I just wrote down. I jotted down some
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thoughts in no particular order. Sure, some of them are you know,
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some of them are things to talk about. Some of them are just things
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that I went, huh, you know, that captain, he's a starfleet
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officer. He was wearing a starfleet uniform, but they referred to him being
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on a Vulcan ship, yeah, and referred to there being a Vulcan station,
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like, if you don't, if you don't want to get your repairs
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done here, there's a Vulcan station ten miles down the road, you know,
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head over there. So excuse me, he you know, the station
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may be like a Vulcan high command station, but the ship he's commanding is
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clearly a Federation starship staffed staffed completely by Vulcans. How racist is that?
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How is seriously though? How is that? How is that? A loud?
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Yeah? I mean if you think of if you think of starships,
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and if you think of a starship as a military base mm hmm okay.
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So you know, Scott, you were in the army, so base the
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base commander is usually what like a colonel yep, which is the naval equivalent,
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which is the Army equivalent of a of a naval captain captain. So,
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ye, did you ever serve on any Army basis where the colonel who
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commanded the base was white? And said, I'm only having a white officers
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on this base. And that's a very good point. That's a that's a
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very good point. And I've thought about this because I think we talked about
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this or you guys talked about this a couple of years ago about this particular
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episode in the All vulcme croup. And I do have a counterpoint to it.
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I was part of the reserves, the army reserves, but we also
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have something called the national Guard and say the Mission National Guard. For example,
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any army unit that's in the Michigan National Guard is comprised of all Michiganders.
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Okay, it's in all Michigander unit. Same with any national Guard around
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the country for the most part. If you're part of the Florida National Guard
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or the Idaho National Guard, or the New York National Guard, that's comprised
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of all New Yorkers. Now in star Trek, yeah, this is a
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little suspect. And the only thing I can think of is every Federation planet,
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and there's one hundred and fifty of them might have their own Starfleet national
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Guard type thing going on. So you know, they have their own bases
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where they can protect themselves where the state or the planet. You know,
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if something happens to Vulcan, the Vulcan president or the Vulcan governor can say,
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hey, we need to call in the Vulcan Starfleet National Guard, and
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that's part of the Starfleet national Guard. That's the only thing I can think
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of, Air National Guard. Whatever. Yeah, I get it. So
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you know, if you're looking for an explanation, that's the best one I
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can come up with. Yeah. So, so, so what you're what
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you're saying is that this ship is not staffed by people who are Vulcan by
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race. These are people who are Vulcan by residency. That's what I'm getting.
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Like if I was an if I was an Andoran who immigrated to Vulcan
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and I live on Vulcan and I joined the National Guard, I would be
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on the Vulcan National Guard because that's where I live, and I will serve
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on the ship. Yeah, okay, if they can divide the military by
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state, divide the military by state, and I'm not sure I understand the
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question. Well okay, So for for a little bit of clarification, the
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army, by just the armies specifically, is divided up into three sections.
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There's the regular Army that's the full time army. Those are your guys who
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serve every day at your regular basis. There's the reserves, which is like
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the regular Army, except they only serve one week and a month two weeks
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a year out of a rereserve base somewhere near their home, and both of
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those are federally funded. The National Guard. Each state's national Guard is federal
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and state funded. And that's what the difference is. They all go to
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the same basic training, they all have, use the same equipment, the
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same uniforms, everything. It's just a difference between the national Guard and the
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regular army and the reserves. It's the National Guard is state funded. So
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if there's a state disaster, the governor has the authority to call upon their
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own state national Guard. Okay, okay, Scott, let me ask you
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something. Does Michigan have a Michigan Guard, not the Michigan National Guard,
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but the Michigan Guard not the New York. New York has a has another
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component called the New York Guard, which these are uh state military officers.
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They answer to the governor. The difference between their component of the national Guard,
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the differences. They cannot be federalized, they only answer to They only
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answer to the governor. Oh okay, yeah, I I haven't heard of
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that. So they couldn't be deployed to like a foreign nation if the government.
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They can only be deployed state side. They can only be mainly deployed
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within their state. They can be lent out to another state, but they
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cannot go overseas. But they are military. They are they are state military.
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They do not the federal government is not in their chain of command,
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is never in their chain of command. They cannot be federalized. Okay.
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So they're paid or trained exclusively by New York. Yes, okay, most
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most of them are retired. Uh, most of them are retired. I
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just like I have had anything like that, and we don't. It's it's
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National Guard. It sounds like a state sponsored militia. Yeah, I mean
30:19
like a legitimate state sponsored militia. Okay, Well, New York's got some
30:25
interesting things like that, Like I heard recently that the New York City Police
30:29
have offices in other cities like around the around the world, like they have
30:33
one in Sydney, Australia, And I know, I know after nine to
30:37
eleven, Yeah, they did a lot of proactive anti terrorism stuff. Yeah,
30:44
you have n y p D detectives uh in Europe on like intel task
30:51
forces and and things like that. So I wouldn't doubt it. Do you
30:55
have an office on Falkan or does the Vulcan High Command have a embassy on
31:00
in New York? I wonder we don't. Maybe, yeah, their way
31:08
in. Hey, we are way off topic. Let's talk about some baseball
31:15
in the house. Sorry, with that a little two out of the dose.
31:18
Yeah, that's good. I tried to make it. It's subtle.
31:22
Good, Yeah, for sure, it was very subtle, very subtle.
31:26
All right, So Cis Cisco has uh Cisco is a recipient of the Christopher
31:32
Pike Metal for Valor. Yeah, yes, I thought it was cool that
31:36
they gave it, gave a nod to Pike and what's and what's best?
31:41
What what's not? What's best. What's interesting to realize is this episode was
31:45
shot in what like nineteen ninety seven, probably yep, Chris. At that
31:51
point. At that point, Christopher Pike had appeared in the lost pilot of
31:57
Star Trek and the Menagerie. That's it, that's it, that's it.
32:04
There was no there was no Star Trek O nine, there was no Star
32:07
Trek Into Darkness. There was no Strange New Worlds, nothing, nothing.
32:12
So too Yeah, that was a very deep cut. So this episode originally
32:19
October nineteenth, nineteen ninety eight. Okay, it was close, yeah,
32:24
very close. Now, one of the I've got some trek facts for you
32:29
for this episode two leads into that. Yeah, Like, like Daniel said,
32:34
it was October nineteen, nineteen eighty eight, which was during the nineteen
32:37
ninety eight World Series. Oh, so there was a little bit of a
32:42
connection. There was was Taylor Swift there. I'm not sure Taylor Swift was
32:50
diapers back in ninety eight, but yeah, she might not have been bored
32:53
yet. Let's see it was the outdoor scenes on the in the Holida Deck
32:59
were played at at Loyola Marymount University, which is in California. Yeah,
33:07
and this is the most interesting fact I came across Ram, played by Max
33:16
I can never get his name right, Gaden Chick. It's Although Ram has
33:24
showed in the episode as being the worst baseball player, he is. However,
33:29
he was the best baseball player among the cast and crew. He even
33:35
was was considering a career in professional baseball, and so he was actually the
33:39
best baseball player. So he had a hard time acting like he was bad.
33:45
So he ended up just Uh. Max is right handed. Uh rom
33:50
is throwing the ball left handed, so he had hands to make himself look
33:52
a little bit awkward. So is that why? Is that why Cisco was
33:59
such a dig to him? Because man, that's that's uncomfortable to watch sometimes.
34:07
Yeah, and actually, and uh Max is the only baseball player.
34:15
Avery Brooks, sar rock Loft and Armine Shimmerman and Aaron Eisenberg are all accomplished
34:20
baseball players. Oh wow, So yeah, I thought it was interesting that
34:27
they actually had a bonafide baseball player. It says here in some of the
34:31
i MDB trivia too that uh uh Nana visitor, however, was completely in
34:38
ft at the game, and uh Nicole de Boor was not much better DAGs.
34:45
So those are some of the back end for this episode. If you
34:53
look at the ball they're playing with, it has those Starfleet Delta yeah on
34:59
the ball, right down to the ball. It's a Starfleet issue ball.
35:02
Yep, I'm just looking at the things side I jotted down, Oh I'm
35:08
sure. Yeah. I thought it was really cool that they chose Odo to
35:14
be the the umpire. That was just a perfect bit of writing. I
35:21
really enjoyed when he ejected Cisco from the game and Cisco objected and he quoted.
35:28
He quoted the rules verbatim, and then without pausing after the definition of
35:36
the rule, he just said, look it up, but do it in
35:39
the stands. Yeah, gone to say something like that, right, Yeah.
35:50
And I also I also I also found it interesting that when Cisco gets
35:58
ejected because because O'Brien is the batting coach and the first base coach or whatever
36:04
he becomes, he becomes the coach. Yeah. And if you think about
36:09
so the majority of the people there are Starfleet officers, if you think about
36:14
the chain of command, he is literally the lowest ranking Starfleet officer in that
36:20
game because he's because he's enlisted. Everyone else is an officer and now he's
36:24
in charge given orders. Ye. Well yeah, So running through the episode
36:31
chronologically, can we kind of do a rundown of the episode itself, kind
36:36
of go through it from the beginning, middle, and end different so you
36:40
know, uh, the episode obviously starts when you know it's in the middle
36:46
of the war. Uh. And one of the I forgot the name of
36:51
the ship that come that's crewed by the Vulcan captain, but to Cumbra,
36:55
to Cumbra, yep. Uh. So they come aboard, and Cisco and
37:00
this captain are old rivals, back from the academy days, and uh he
37:08
challenges to Cisco to a you know, a game of baseball, and Cisco
37:13
obviously is very uh worked up about this, and and recruits all of the
37:20
senior staff uh and uh and uh even Quark to play a game against the
37:25
Balkans, and they all agree to do it. And he asked Odo to
37:30
be the umpire because he wanted somebody who could be completely unbiased and he didn't
37:38
want a computer call in the game. So what's uh, what are some
37:44
of the highlights going into that part of the episode we can talk about just
37:50
because I normally when we talk about episodes like this, we jumped from the
37:52
beginning to the end, to the middle, beginning back again. So I
37:55
just wanted to go. So I'm on the Wikipedia that the reason they made
38:02
this episode was because of a series co creator, Michael Piller. Apparently he's
38:07
a giant baseball fan. It was based onf an idea from Stephen R.
38:13
Iris Stephen Bear, who apparently had written a very similarly themed baseball episode on
38:17
a show called Fame. That episode was called The Old Ball Game. So
38:25
m hm, yeah, that's kind of interesting. So we find out,
38:36
so the majority of the episode takes place in the two weeks between the arrival
38:44
of the Tacumbra and the game. So we see the practice, we see
38:47
the team practicing, and it's a bad News Bears type story. You've got
38:52
very much. So you got you know. Two, you got, you
38:55
got the picture. Who knows what he's doing? Uh uh? Three for
39:00
ANGI who have never played baseball in their life. A klingon who while he's
39:05
physically physically strong, you know, he doesn't know baseball. He's never played
39:09
baseball, which is a little surprising. He grew up on Earth, but
39:13
I guess is a lost Yeah, I guess baseball is kind of lost in
39:17
time. He did play soccer. Yeah, we know he played soccer because
39:23
he killed the kid. That's right. To keep this light yet, yeah,
39:28
keep it light. Thanks. Yeah. So we we find out as
39:37
as Cisco gets frustrated throughout this two weeks trying to train this team. We
39:42
find out through a conversation between him and Cassidy. Well, let me back
39:46
up. Rom does terrible and Cisco throws him out of the try it.
39:51
That's what I that's what I remember. That's what I think can't catch anything.
39:55
Yeah, yeah, that's what I was referring to when I said Cisco
39:58
was a dude. Yeah to Rom, this is supposed to be a friendly
40:04
game, right, right, and we find out it's not friendly. It's
40:08
not It's not friendly at all. So Lock has taken every opportunity over the
40:14
last twenty years to embarrass Cisco whenever you can. Because of a bar a
40:19
bar fight they got into back at the academy, Cisco was intoxicated. Uh,
40:24
picked a fight with this vulcan or accept challenge him. Yeah, got
40:29
his ass handed to him because because Penny Johnson's Cassidy A pointed out a bualcan
40:35
is three times as strong as a human and they're faster too. Yep.
40:38
Yeah, yeah, so what we what we find out there's a couple of
40:44
scenes where not everybody is involved. We find out the rest of the team
40:46
agrees that the captain was was a jerk and they're not going to play in
40:51
the game. There's you know, if Rom's not playing, they're not playing.
40:57
Yep, and Rom says, no, no, no, you guys
41:00
play. I want to watch you play. We find out through the conversation
41:05
between Cisco and Cassidy. She wants to know what's up with him. You're
41:08
acting like a jerk, and he confides. He confides in her that Solac
41:15
has made his life hell every time you see him for the last for the
41:17
last twenty years. He swears her to secrecy. She immediately turns around and
41:22
tells everybody and tells everybody. Yeah, and they and they say, let's
41:28
win one for the Gipper, right, and they vowed, they vowed to
41:31
go in there and give it the old college, try and do the right.
41:36
And it's a it's a feudal gesture. They're they're getting they're getting whooped.
41:43
They're getting whooped by the Vulcans, at which point Cisco decides, it
41:50
doesn't matter. It is a friendly game. Just treat it like a friendly
41:55
game. Have a good time, and what will yet under a Vulcan's skin
42:01
better than anything is being illogical in their presence and having a good time.
42:10
Cisco has a moment and even though they're sitting in the stands and he's sitting
42:15
kind of near Rob who he's he kicked out, and Cisco's been kicked out
42:21
because he uh, you know, got kicked out by Odo for you know,
42:23
making physical contact with him, and he kind of kind of has this
42:28
you know, Rom kind of says, boy, this this looks like a
42:30
lot of fun. And that's when it sort of dawns on Cisco fun.
42:32
Yeah, that's what this game is about. That ultimately, it's about heart
42:37
and it's about fun. And he sort of has this moment where he's like,
42:39
I got an idea, let's let's do something different here. Yeah,
42:44
So that brings me to I wanted to real quick talk about the crowd.
42:51
Now. During the episode, during the training there was no crowd, makes
42:54
sense. Solot came by to scout them at one point while they're practiced,
42:58
while the Niners are practicing, but then during the game there's a big crowd.
43:02
And when I don't remember what my thoughts were when I first saw this
43:07
episode back in the nineties, but subsequent viewings, I thought to myself,
43:12
this should be I think there's something like ten thousand people on the space station,
43:16
plus another what five hundred to one thousand Vulcans serving on the Balcan ship.
43:23
Why was this not the biggest thing to happen on the station in a
43:30
decade? I mean, they had two weeks because the word got around because
43:36
nobody cares. Nobody cares Cisco, Cisco and Soloc. That's part of the
43:42
stories. Nobody cares except these two guys, right and the ten people they
43:47
ordered to take part in this game, right, and and and they did
44:00
it in different ways, I imagine because it happened off screen. I imagine
44:04
Soloc summoned his senior staff and said, uh, I'm engaging in an experiment
44:10
with the humans on this station. You will assist me with this experiment.
44:17
That's it. That was the only discussion. Whereas where is Cisco. Cisco
44:24
said, assemble the senior staff, and the senior staff shows up, plus
44:30
Nog. I didn't get that at the time, But whatever they want him
44:32
for, you know. And and he says, we're gonna play baseball,
44:37
and he's really excited about it, at which point all of his subordinates go,
44:44
you know, the boss is really excited about this ship. I guess
44:49
we're excited too. Yeah, But when it comes down to it, there's
44:54
only two people in that holidack who give a ship about this game. Well
44:58
three if you count Rom, because he seems to be really really excited about
45:02
it. One thing I noticed about the crowd, which I probably didn't notice
45:08
this when I first watched it, but that crowd is one absolutely yeah,
45:17
we'll talk about that team bear. Yeah, that crowd is absolutely one hundred
45:22
percent plucked off the street in nineteen ninety seven. Yeah, it absolutely looks
45:29
like nineteen ninety seven. And at the time I probably watched it and said,
45:34
you know, they probably went outside the soundstage onto the sidewalk, sidewalk
45:37
and just grabs people off the stretch. Come watch a come watch a pretend
45:42
baseball game. You want to make a hundred bucks. But yeah, so
45:45
the hall suite, we've we've seen what the hall suite looks like when it's
45:51
turned off. The distance from from the umpire behind home plate to the center
45:59
fielder can I be contained within the holidayck. So I think it would have
46:06
made more sense if, uh like they went down to Bajor and played the
46:15
game. But yeah, okay, yeah, and then it would have been
46:21
a big deal because the emissaries playing some old sports that they yes, yes,
46:27
exactly, Well, then they would have had had like Yankee Stadium to
46:31
fill in for, you know, instead of some small college. Well they're
46:35
down in l A. So they didn't get Dodger Stadium. Oh yeah,
46:37
Dodger Stadium. Oh but and I'm sure that's so. I love how I
46:45
love how Wharf is still Wharf when they can't find the the the vulcan who
46:51
who forgot to tag home plate? And Nog says, you know what do
46:54
I do? Finds him and kill him? Find him and kill him.
46:59
That was one of my favorite moments. And all Wharf was one hundred serious
47:05
that, Yeah, he's he's still Wharf. When they're rasing the batter swing
47:09
about a wee about a wee about it, we about it. Just to
47:12
the opposition, he's still warf. Wharf was the most Wharf in this and
47:19
yeah, I loved him in this episode. Uh he sure did give it
47:22
all. Yeah. There was somebody on the Instagram account said that if they
47:28
played the game ons win would throw the first ball the first Yeah, oh
47:34
yeah, you don't want to say that. Yeah. Yeah, it's coded,
47:40
it's coded with poison. But you know, right, but hey,
47:47
do we want to drag the sweet thing? Huh? What's being too small?
47:54
Oh yeah I just said that it will No, I I'm talking about
48:00
the tech technical thing. Oh yeah, I wanted to nerd out about it
48:05
a little bit. I've read, like the Technical Manual of the Enterprise D
48:08
talks about the Holow deck a little bit. And from my understanding, if
48:13
the hollow suites are the same as the holodecks, they can create force perspective
48:16
changes. So even if you're only ten feet apart, the Holi deck can
48:21
create sort of a prism effect and make the person that's ten feet apart,
48:25
that's ten feet away from you, look even further away. So the Holow
48:29
deck is really good at force perspective changes, so as long as you can
48:32
physically fit so many people inside the hollow suite, which I'll also like to
48:38
point out that I think the hollow suites are generally larger than the Huh you
48:45
said you read one of the tech manuals. Yeah, warning warning, NERD
48:51
alert, NERD alert, Yep, that's for you. Yeah, cover cover.
48:57
Here's here's the thing I've Yeah, I have seen that. However,
49:05
you're standing at home plate, you hit a ball, you hit a ground
49:09
ball up the third base line. You you run full speed towards first base.
49:21
The distance between home plate and first base is too big for the holidack.
49:25
If the ground if the ground and your perspective are changing underneath your feet
49:30
and in front of your face. I mean, you're gonna get dizzy.
49:35
You're gonna you can't get dizzy because I don't know. The visuals are going
49:40
to take care of that. And the holid deck has uh it's called in
49:44
the technical manually call it a treadmill effect. So the holid deck underneath your
49:50
feet can act as a treadmill. Yeah, okay, I think you're You're
49:53
still gonna you're gonna lose your balance though, because running on a treadmill and
49:57
running on the street are not the same thing. When you run on a
50:00
treadmill, you are shifting your weight back and forth from one leg to the
50:04
other. There's no you're not generating any forward momentum. Correct, But that's
50:08
how they like the way that I'm oh, I'm really trying to unbury myself
50:13
here. Yep, I got nothing. That's like, what about if you're
50:20
a single person on the holiday, can you go for a jog? Can
50:23
you run around? You know, running a straight line for a mile.
50:28
And it feels kind of like this is this thing, it's the real life
50:30
thing Disney made. It's like a treadmill that you can use VR with,
50:35
yes, and that one you can it's three sixty right, you can run
50:39
right? Yeah, Okay, listen, I took a I took a chandelier
50:45
down playing we basketball ten years ago. Yeah, there are there are certain
50:53
limitations to all technology. Did you have your safeties turned off? Yeah?
51:00
I didngaged Yeah. Yeah, that's hey my iPad. My iPad's at four
51:06
percent. If I lose you guys, I'll switch to the phone and be
51:07
right back. Yes, okay, so you know, all right, all
51:12
right? Well, anything else we want to say about this episode? Uh?
51:16
I just wanted to say I had one more note in here that the
51:22
title itself, take Me Out the Holla Sue, was based on obviously,
51:27
take Me Out to the Ball Game, which was written in nineteen oh eight
51:30
and is the unofficial anthem of baseball. Okay, Yeah. One thing that
51:36
I was disappointed about nobody's eating hot dogs. Yeah, that's like a baseball
51:44
thing. They even mentioned it in No, that was a different episode.
51:52
Uh, Kira was told about hot dogs. Mm hmm. I think they
52:00
were gonna, yeah, they were gonna go see a baseball game. Yeah.
52:06
Yeah, I feel like they missed they missed an opportunity where you know,
52:10
Quark does a little bit of research and and you know he shows for
52:16
yeah minimum, yep, yep, a tray full of hot dogs and beer
52:22
and cracker Jacks and beer cracker Jacks, yeah, which is mentioned. Didn't
52:29
take me out to the ball game, that's right. I think that's the
52:31
only reason Cracker Jacks are still alive as a company. Probably. Yeah.
52:39
All right, well, let's let's get to listener feedback. Then listener feedback.
52:52
Have we had any voicemails voicemails, No, we did get some.
52:59
Just mentioned on the on the Truck account that a lot of people did love
53:04
this episode. There was a lot of feedback like, oh my god,
53:07
that's my favorite episode. So did they all sounded like that? They all
53:13
sounded like every single one, Oh my god, Yes, that's fantastic.
53:22
It's weird how you can put that into text, but they did to chamber
53:24
that voice. And all right, we got we got a few people in
53:30
the line, so let's get to him. Uh, the first one that
53:34
Clement is t Bear. There, he is t Bear. Every guest,
53:40
that's my daughter, Phoebe. Phoebe, where are you going? Honey?
53:46
Hello? Breakfast on the micro right now, So okay, we'll be on
53:54
our best behavior, that's right. Yeah, not any worse than I probably
53:58
am sometimes. So it's not D and D. She just blow up your
54:07
spot. Yeah, so what had are you wearing? She's multiplying. There's
54:14
just two of them, just two of them now they're multiplying. Did you
54:16
throw water on them? What happened the other one? I just it was
54:21
a transporter cloning accident. So there you Yeah, yeah, the camel right
54:28
now going. Dad is such a nerd, they know that. Yeah,
54:34
I wonder what my kids are thinking. I'm the one hosting this thing.
54:37
Yeah, exactly exactly. I think you're asking, which this is a Dodger
54:43
cap, So Ellie Rodgers and the ram I'm sure you know because they're not
54:47
playing today. No, every team were in the playoffs. Were my team's
54:54
not playing either? The race Daniel's throwing shade. Yeah, yeah, I
55:01
think I saw a similar one for the Cowboys where they're going to play every
55:05
Super Bowl in the future at the stadium in Dallas. So that way,
55:08
no team ever has a got my team the Lions, so they had a
55:16
they had a tough, tough one to Lions did a fantastic job. They
55:22
got further than they've gotten in a long time. I was reading for the
55:25
Lions because I'm not really a Niners, but yeah, yeah, I guess
55:30
it was everybody against Casey because you know, when you know, there's a
55:34
thing called fantasy football, So it's just thing when I nuraged records and take
55:39
the stats and then record them and then football. And yeah, I had
55:49
Kelsey and Majmes is my fantasy team, h top picks, and they just
55:53
disappointed the whole season and ended up in the last place in my league.
55:57
So I don't know what the rest of my league, it's our have planned
56:00
for me next time we draft, because there's usually something for the last place.
56:04
But uh yeah, so I blame them. So I was just going
56:07
against him the whole time, and sure enough to keep winning every single game.
56:10
So here we are today. Yeah, well, I am I am
56:14
rooting for. I am rooting for the stuffed Crush Pizza and the Boneless Chicken
56:19
Wings, and I have a feeling my team's gonna come through for me.
56:23
Dude. Stuff Cross Pizza is my favorite. Yeah, yeah, I'm a
56:29
fan. Have you seen the Paramount Plus commercial with Uh. Yes, I
56:37
love how Patrick Stewart is on that whole episode that Oh yes, he heaps
56:42
off his shirt. He's wearing the old football. Yes. Yeah, it's
56:45
like nineteen forty two football. Yeah, it's official that he doesn't care at
56:53
all. It's official, like the end when he looks at Pepper Fagley like
56:57
we need something with pigskin. Yes, it was Greod. Yeah, that
57:07
was awesome. I couldn't stop laughing. And it was funny the actual to
57:14
a quarterback for the Dolphins. It was funny to see that he couldn't make
57:17
a throw in the cold, which I don't know if they filmed that before
57:21
the game or it was good timing or what, but I thought that was
57:25
perfect casting on there. That's funny. Yeah. So who do you think
57:30
is gonna win tonight? I have a feeling it's going to be the Chiefs.
57:37
Yeah, yeah, and it's going to be pretty close, but it's
57:39
going to be the Chiefs. Believe that they get to win. What the
57:44
script said, I am roody for the forty nine ers only because there's a
57:47
couple of Moody and Bell are former Michigan players, and so I'm a big
57:53
Michigan fan. So that's that's my reasoning. Plus, they haven't won a
57:57
super Bowl a while, so you know, you said Michigan is earlier,
58:00
and all I could picture was geese for some reason, make you feel more
58:06
comfortable? Does that all the super Bowl commercial has been released before the super
58:15
Bowl? Yeah, that's kind of true. A lot of them have.
58:17
I didn't really. I made it a point not to watch them well before
58:21
the super Bowl. I try to watch them in the moment, just because
58:23
you know, it's part of the fun of the super Bowl. I did
58:27
read something where they were saying a lot of companies went really conservative on their
58:32
ads because they're afraid of some kind of backlash or another. And I'm like,
58:37
that just kills it, because some of the greatest ads in the Super
58:39
Bowl were kind of borderline pushed the envelope a little bit. I mean,
58:43
yeah, if I was a company, I would just tag my new commercial
58:46
as the super Bowl commercial. You don't have to pay for it, there
58:50
go. Yeah, all the SEO would just be like, oh, that's
58:52
the super Bowl commercial. Yea, yeah yeah. So did is trek As
59:01
doing a super Bowl commercial? Yes, I'll do it next. Okay,
59:09
we don't have to do a full thirty second ad. We can just do
59:12
a fifteen second ad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the coffee account should
59:15
should account for that, right, the account has enough money to buy a
59:23
coffee count has enough money to buy a cameo from two buck book eyes.
59:28
That's yeah, I was gonna say, I don't think we could afford a
59:30
beer at the Yeah, right, anything else you want to bring up to
59:39
you there, uh, just just the hog Sweet episode. I think the
59:44
only reason why it was the first time I actually saw sports related stuff that's
59:47
actually in Star Trek. Yeah, that's I guess for modern or current sports.
59:53
And I've always joked is actually it survived into what the twenty fourth century
1:00:00
so well, so at least at least a sport. I don't know about
1:00:04
the leagues or anything like that, but yeah, I always use that when
1:00:08
someone comes up to me and says which sport's better? In Baseball last until
1:00:13
twenty fourth century, I don't know basketball and everything else. Although in the
1:00:19
Wishes Were Horses episode, I think that's the name of the episode What Fuck
1:00:22
the Kai mentions that during the World Series of twenty there was only fifteen hundred
1:00:32
people in the stands. Yeah, but Jassidy's brother plays in the league because
1:00:39
they were starting to back up and that was the big thing. Yeah that's
1:00:43
true. Yeah, yep, so that survived. Yeah it was retros.
1:00:47
I'm just waiting for it for them to start playing it in disco. Yeah,
1:00:54
yes, that was for you to Oh that would be awesome. I
1:01:04
bet that. I bet something could be arranged. That'd be great. Something
1:01:07
could be arranged. Talk to them, see what they say. Okay,
1:01:13
all right, yeah, in fact, I'll make a note of it her.
1:01:15
Okay, cool, all right, t Bear, thanks for being on
1:01:19
you guys. Yeah. And then we also have got Swifty Swift. Yeah
1:01:27
there he is there, he is, all right, Swift. I said
1:01:30
a more tinfoil hat today. The conspiracy theory. Okay, which conspiracy Taylor
1:01:38
Swift? Oh yeah, who she's gonna vote for? Oh there, she's
1:01:49
gonna endorse making it you get to fly in from Japan? Yeah she had.
1:01:54
They had stupid news of her landing the ding i'n airplane. Yeah where
1:02:00
land is like just landed in Las Vegas. Oh come on, guys,
1:02:09
it's just the same. It's like, I don't think howers or something.
1:02:15
Yeah, I mean gets the flyer private jet gets to lay down, doesn't
1:02:22
have to be in the whole time. Yeah, somebody farting on you?
1:02:27
So well planes are you flying on spirit? Man? That's great. You've
1:02:40
gotta bring brass knuckles when you fly now. So it's crazy up there now,
1:02:46
especially you see all those videos. So yeah. Two Bary mentioned baseball
1:02:52
with Discovery where they have detachable baseball clubs to catch the ball. Oh god,
1:03:00
you're just stop bad, just stop. Oh wait till wait till April.
1:03:07
Man, it's gonna get you think it's bad, now, wait till
1:03:10
April with Discovery season five comes out. Yeah, we're gonna have to templates
1:03:16
just with Dan Dan Discovery, Like one panel can be uh uh Green Snico
1:03:27
Martin Green, the other panel can be Dan like the Enterprise Discovery with all
1:03:32
my working this week, guys, how many how many episodes are there?
1:03:37
Ten? Yeah? Maybe maybe I'll take a ten week leave of absence.
1:03:45
What you do you don't charge your batteries on your phone or your laptop?
1:03:52
Right there? You go short it out. The Bath program will matter,
1:04:00
Yeah, I can't tell you. There will be There will be some pack
1:04:06
lid reviews of Star Trek Discovery, so that will great Kelpian cried and ruined
1:04:14
baseball. That's what happened. Dan's going to be saving a lot of dogs.
1:04:18
Hot dogs. Yes, that's what. Don't sit near the doors if
1:04:27
you fly Alaskans. That the one where the door just flew off. Yeah,
1:04:30
yeah, Alaskan. That's the new Boeing jet. Yeah, it's gonna
1:04:34
say that. Yeah, it's Boeing's fault. Apparently they have. Yeah,
1:04:43
yeah, yeah, the support beams were bowing, right American American dad joke.
1:04:55
That's my dad joke. So, jaz, who do you think is
1:04:57
gonna win tonight? Uh? Taylor Swift, that's right, yeah, Taylor
1:05:02
Swift. And then Travis Kelsey will propose, and then'll be the greatest in
1:05:09
the world if he proposes right then and there? Oh god yeah, and
1:05:16
then he gets to the engagement ring. Out, I'm out of here.
1:05:19
Look. I love rigged sports, right, I love pro wrestling, but
1:05:23
that's too much, Yeah, rigs sports. After that, everybody's gonna say
1:05:30
this, this ship's rigged. So oh yeah, for sure. Yeah.
1:05:33
I can't wait for all the all the twitter like, oh this is here's
1:05:38
the script, all the pictures that will be up. Oh yeah, oh
1:05:41
yeah, social media is gonna be a buzz. Yeah, man. Then
1:05:45
those pictures will come out right after maybe the first quarter, where people like,
1:05:47
see here's the first quarter. One after what just happened, someone will
1:05:50
write it out. You know what I hate right now is how they spoil
1:05:55
the commercials before they air. The company is doing that up well. In
1:06:00
the nineties, right used to like sit there and you'd watch the commercials because
1:06:04
you didn't have the internet, so you had to watch the bud Wiser commercial,
1:06:08
you had to watch the bud Bowl and then all those so but they
1:06:13
realized they can get more traction and more eyeballs by releasing them early because people
1:06:16
talk about it, and that's the buzz. That's what I don't know that
1:06:18
I think I remember more people talking about them in the nineties than I do
1:06:21
now. To be honest with you, I don't know, man. I've
1:06:26
seen YouTube reviews. Let's review the super Bowl commercials. It's so dumb.
1:06:30
Well, yeah, because what they'll do is they'll do it frame by frame.
1:06:32
They'll have this Super Bowl commercial, then they'll play it and I'll be
1:06:35
like ha ha, and then they'll TikTok and do their own commentary. So
1:06:43
that's kind of like the easiest way to do your own show now on a
1:06:48
podcast or YouTube is just take a show and just break it down. So,
1:06:58
oh, one, you just in the super Bowl. What are you
1:07:00
gonna do? Now? I'm gonna marry Taylor Swift? Yeah, you're very
1:07:05
probably right. Probably then then you're instant billionaire. Now you gotta deal with
1:07:11
Taylor Swift. Yeah. Well, I love the idea that she's only with
1:07:14
him for the money, like come on, yeah, yeah, no,
1:07:17
no, no, she's only with him so she can make another song about
1:07:21
the breakup. There you go, that's the whole album. Yeah, that
1:07:27
her heart's broken. She made all these friends and then I have to have
1:07:31
to separate. But the but the real breakup is the friends who made on
1:07:35
the way. Yes, yes, let's write the song right now. That's
1:07:43
right, that's right. You need a little drum machine back there or something,
1:07:48
you know, the Yeah, all right, did you else you want
1:07:58
to bring up? Well, mister Wheaton wrote a letter. Oh yeah,
1:08:04
yeah, yeah, So just don't strangle muppets and you'll be all right.
1:08:11
That's all I gotta say. Don't strangle up. I try not to strangle
1:08:14
muppets every day but it's hard. I strangle every muppet I see on the
1:08:18
street. There you go. Will Wheaton be damned? Well, I guess
1:08:28
I think. Yeah, Larry, Larry David assaulted Elmo on the news somehow
1:08:36
just to him and did that, you know, just yeah. And then
1:08:40
Will Wheaton has this whole essay of Will Wheaton lost his ship. Look on
1:08:47
the Facebook group and you'll see it, you know. Yeah, yeah,
1:08:51
Will needs Will needs to chill out a little bit. Yeah yeah, well,
1:08:56
like not like just screaming and yelling at him if you're written it in
1:09:01
a normal manner, like why it's wrong, but the way he did it,
1:09:05
he did it in a total rant, you know. Yeah, to
1:09:11
be fair, Elmo is read so the instant you see him, you just
1:09:14
rage, you know, like a yeah mm hmmm. Larry probably heard that
1:09:20
voice and is like, I can't take it anymore. It's like if you
1:09:24
I mean, it's like an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm If you watch the
1:09:28
whole thing, That's exactly what Larry would do. He would go up there
1:09:31
and then somebody would write this letter and yell at him exactly. How episode
1:09:39
is it possible that all this was staged? If it is to be the
1:09:43
greatest episode of her you mean or no, yeah, no, no,
1:09:48
just because we're all talking about it now, right right, Yeah, Well
1:09:54
we'll read it, Scott, and you're gonna be like, oh my god,
1:09:57
okay, I will, Yeah, I will, because when you're eat
1:10:00
it, it'll be my halftime shows. I mean, it makes sense in
1:10:03
other ways because it's you know, it's like, yes, you know,
1:10:06
physical abuse is bad, but yeah, there's the thing is like Bart Simpson
1:10:13
and and Homer, Like what did you always see Homer? Dude? He
1:10:15
always strangled Bart? Yeah yeah, and then all the old cartoons back in
1:10:19
the day we grew up with. That's that was the thing, you know,
1:10:25
right right, I don't know, just chill chill out, will yep?
1:10:34
Yeah, dance I'm moving, I'm moving. Oh yeah, all right?
1:10:41
Well anything else? Got a cross shot right there? We got cross
1:10:47
ye put all right, there is there is? Oh it will ask asking
1:11:00
the real questions. What's next you Today? I'm going to make my own
1:11:08
ranch dip for the first time. I've never done that before Helman's ranch or
1:11:14
just yeah. When I say my own, I mean yeah, it's one
1:11:20
step above the jar, and I got some balance ranch mayonnaise milk together before.
1:11:30
It's pretty good. Oh yeah, I mean I didn't actually grow all
1:11:35
the herbs and spices and culture the sour creamy myself. But that what you're
1:11:44
saying pretty much. Make sure the taking, to make sure the barometer is
1:11:48
set right. You know, I think I did use separate sentences and that
1:11:56
I think I was using two separate analogies. Dan, Dan, I'm gonna
1:12:04
send you a very stern text message after this one over here. It's gonna
1:12:09
say screw you. Yeah, well you gotta me. That's your job,
1:12:16
you say, and I made fun of you for it. That's how it
1:12:19
works. We discussed that from the interview. That's right. Terms. Now,
1:12:28
do you think Chad is blasting Taylor Swift music right now? Getting I'm
1:12:34
gonna call him there and find out. Yes, I'm gonna win. I'm
1:12:39
gonna root for Kansas City to win, just just just for my buddy Chad.
1:12:44
Okay. In reality, I couldn't carry. I hate the forty nine
1:12:47
ers. I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan, so I hate the forty nine ers.
1:12:55
Okay, So I guess it's uh me and you, Daniel, Okay,
1:13:00
So I really don't care yeah. Yeah, the Lions are out.
1:13:05
Tom Brady doesn't play anymore. So Kcy Masterpiece is one of my favorite barbecue
1:13:10
sauce is so gotcha. Hey, you gotta make a connection somehow. I'll
1:13:16
tell you this. Texas barbecue is better than Kansas City. Oh man shots
1:13:23
fired. Yeah, well see they like the smell of theres and barbecue sauce.
1:13:30
Texas barbecue is the grill and then it just falls off the phone.
1:13:34
Then you dip a barbecue sauce. Yeah, so I'm making me hungry.
1:13:39
I'm probably gonna I'm probably gonna upset a lot of people. But my all
1:13:44
time favorite barbecue sauce is McDonald's barbecue sauce. Yeah. Okay, everybody who
1:13:53
just heard that, keep in mind upset. Yeah exactly like my wife,
1:14:00
you don't want no, that's terrible opinion. Or the bottle that was on
1:14:05
the shelf of the store. I would, man, sweet, don't anybody
1:14:14
photoshop what Dan just did? No, don't don't anyone do. They got
1:14:19
a cross shaw today and now he's yeah, so whatever, I like that.
1:14:28
I broke it. I broke Scott where it's my beauty. But all
1:14:40
right, we lost Scott. His sas is turning around, okay, and
1:14:48
we're back exactly. Oh, I'm starting to cry so emotional. Suppose I
1:14:59
suppose was me saying that McDonald's barbecue sauce is my favorite barbecue sauce is not
1:15:05
that much different than you guys in Chicago putting that ship in front of me
1:15:11
and telling me it was pizza. That's right, Hey, you said,
1:15:18
yeah, I say a lot of things. Didn't you say it was blasagna
1:15:24
on bread or something like that. It was pizza soup in a bread bowl,
1:15:30
you know. And actually, in Dan's defense, you know, he
1:15:33
said he likes the McDonald's barbecue sauce. I got to thinking, I like
1:15:38
the Arby's sauce, which is barbecue sauce. So yeah, okay, it's
1:15:43
good. And I actually have bought Arbie's sauce in a bottle WOWNDS, which
1:15:50
is our local home improvements home improvement story. I buy all that. There's
1:16:00
expiration dates nineteen ninety eight on it, right, it's aged swifty. Yeah,
1:16:10
okay, well thanks for being on there. I think for food all
1:16:18
right, anything else we want to bring up before we wrap it up?
1:16:21
No, speaking of food, cat uh we should uh we should talk a
1:16:28
little bit about Star Trek food sometime in the near future. Oh yeah,
1:16:30
yeah, yeah, we'll do that. I'd like to real real quick.
1:16:34
Let me respond to Tea Tea Bear that barbecue sauce belongs nowhere near pizza,
1:16:40
indeed, nowhere near about barbecue chicken pizza. I was just gonna say that,
1:16:44
man. Yeah, nope, what okay, nope? All right,
1:16:48
come on, all right, well listen, I will get car and drive
1:16:51
over there and explain to you why. I'll show you this point and I'll
1:16:56
show you this I understand. Fair. It's a ten hour drive from your
1:17:01
place to my place. So I will see you just after the super Bowl.
1:17:05
All right, I'm already pineapple exactly. I would like something, uh
1:17:14
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