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- 0:00Speaker 1: I am all in. I am all in with Scott
- 0:18Speaker 1: Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast Everybody, Scott Patterson, I
- 0:22Speaker 1: am all in podcast, I Heart Radio, I want to
- 0:24Speaker 1: Live in Productions. I am joined by my in Trepid crew,
- 0:27Speaker 1: Tara sud Danielle Romo, Amy Sugarman, and we are all
- 0:32Speaker 1: sporting some gear merch. We got some merch. What kind
- 0:36Speaker 1: of merchant are we sporting over here? Guys? Look at that, Luke.
- 0:40Speaker 1: You got Luke's pillow, Danielle, and you've got a nice
- 0:44Speaker 1: powder blue Yeah. And look at the back, the spiritual
- 0:49Speaker 1: look at that, Look at that, Look at that? What
- 0:54Speaker 1: do you what do you got? Amy? What do you
- 0:55Speaker 1: get there? How do you not see that? I see
- 0:58Speaker 1: bottles of alcohol on look down. Oh, those there's a shampoo.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Those are perfume bottles that look like alcohol. Correct. But
- 1:05Speaker 1: look and we've got the duel Luke's pillows over there.
- 1:12Speaker 1: They really make the room pop. Yeah, the pillow is nice,
- 1:16Speaker 1: you know, like designer. All right, Danielle, time to synopsize
- 1:21Speaker 1: is only Danielle Romo can synopsize? Alright? This is season four,
- 1:25Speaker 1: episode nineteen after Boom air date April two thousand and four.
- 1:32Speaker 1: After Jason finds out Richard is ousting him of the business.
- 1:36Speaker 1: He makes a decision that jeopardizes his relationship with Laura Lai. Meanwhile,
- 1:41Speaker 1: Emily and Richard are having marriage troubles because of Richard's decision.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Rory is questioning her work at Yale, and here's rumors
- 1:48Speaker 1: about Professor Fleming. How shuk are you guys? This season
- 1:55Speaker 1: is good. It is very good. Gauging a lot of
- 2:01Speaker 1: people these are their favorite four episodes or starting a
- 2:04Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. I'm right, I'm right with him,
- 2:07Speaker 1: I'm right with them. They're my favorite too. I love
- 2:10Speaker 1: this one too. I really love this one. And I
- 2:13Speaker 1: will say, and I'm not going to tell you where
- 2:15Speaker 1: it is because I don't want to start jumping around
- 2:18Speaker 1: right off the bat, but I will say I have
- 2:21Speaker 1: never seen the Laureli gilmore so appealing in a particular
- 2:29Speaker 1: scene which for me defines the show. And we'll get
- 2:35Speaker 1: to it. I just want to say I was completely
- 2:37Speaker 1: blown away by this one little scene is pivotal scene,
- 2:41Speaker 1: but one little scene, which I mean, it just knocked
- 2:45Speaker 1: me out. You'll tell us when we get to it. Well,
- 2:48Speaker 1: when we get to it. Yeah, yeah, but what do
- 2:52Speaker 1: you guys think. What do you guys think of this episode?
- 2:55Speaker 1: It was great. I loved it. I mean I love it,
- 3:00Speaker 1: even though I'm like very stressed about Richard and Emily. Yeah, yeah,
- 3:07Speaker 1: but I love the episode. Excellent. Yeah, no, no question.
- 3:12Speaker 1: There were a couple of hiccups here and there. I
- 3:15Speaker 1: think technically speaking with the a d R or the looping. Yes,
- 3:21Speaker 1: that was the stress you tell us when I didn't
- 3:23Speaker 1: notice it, But but I would. I occasionally do notice
- 3:27Speaker 1: that kind of thing, but this one didn't. It wasn't glaring. Yeah,
- 3:30Speaker 1: there were. There was a scene outdoors in the beginning
- 3:33Speaker 1: with the Rory and Lorelai where it was a lot
- 3:36Speaker 1: of a d R and it really kind of took
- 3:38Speaker 1: me out of the scene. I don't know that fans
- 3:41Speaker 1: noticed it so much. Um. I can always tell because
- 3:45Speaker 1: I know, you know, I know when if I think,
- 3:48Speaker 1: if it's atrocious, we notice it. Otherwise it's like, do
- 3:51Speaker 1: they do a d R if like they the audio
- 3:54Speaker 1: didn't pick up or is it like if the script
- 3:56Speaker 1: like what do they use it for? Well, they do
- 3:59Speaker 1: it just in case, sou you know, if the sound
- 4:01Speaker 1: department says, listen, I think we need to loop these
- 4:04Speaker 1: lines in these lines, and the editor agrees because of
- 4:08Speaker 1: ambient noise that came in a lawn mowl or a plane.
- 4:11Speaker 1: So they're not like changing the script there were got it? Interesting? Yeah?
- 4:15Speaker 1: And then you have to go in there and you
- 4:16Speaker 1: have to match your mouth movements to the words that
- 4:20Speaker 1: you're saying in the microphone. You've got a headset on
- 4:22Speaker 1: and you're watching it and you've got the lines in
- 4:25Speaker 1: front of you, and it's it's it's it's actually pretty
- 4:28Speaker 1: difficult to master. But you have to watch it, but
- 4:30Speaker 1: you also have to reenact it and and do the emotion.
- 4:34Speaker 1: I'm doing that now on my new show, and it's
- 4:36Speaker 1: such an emotional show. Are you doing R now? Yeah?
- 4:39Speaker 1: And it's better to do it while you're on set
- 4:43Speaker 1: on location because you're sort of still in the character
- 4:46Speaker 1: and it's easy to contract. Yeah. Now I'm like months
- 4:49Speaker 1: away from it and I have to go back in
- 4:51Speaker 1: there and do these emotional things, and it's a it's
- 4:52Speaker 1: a lot harder to do. Yeah, it's a lot harder
- 4:56Speaker 1: to do. Interesting, very yeah, So but we did. We
- 5:01Speaker 1: did a fair amount on Gilmore, but they didn't use
- 5:04Speaker 1: a lot of it. They did it just in case
- 5:06Speaker 1: they knew as a safety more for outdoor scenes rather
- 5:10Speaker 1: than like on a set. Absolutely, what about when you
- 5:14Speaker 1: said I wasn't running, I was walking. I wasn't yelling.
- 5:16Speaker 1: I was talking because I was outdoor and there was
- 5:23Speaker 1: a lot. No, I don't think those were I don't
- 5:25Speaker 1: think those were looped lines. Those were Luke lines that
- 5:28Speaker 1: were not looped. They looked legit, and I think they Luke.
- 5:32Speaker 1: I thought we went. I love this episode because it's
- 5:34Speaker 1: like right away out the gate into it, Luke's getting divorced,
- 5:40Speaker 1: we're at the mailboxes, etcetera. Yeah, I enjoyed that scene.
- 5:44Speaker 1: That was That was great Kirk stuff, great Luke and
- 5:46Speaker 1: Laurel stuff. Everybody stuff was stamps. The stamps, Laurela you
- 5:52Speaker 1: go first. I want to. I want to loose the
- 5:54Speaker 1: old ball stamps. Oh my god, I know, right do
- 5:59Speaker 1: you guys? You buy your stamps? Like I don't just
- 6:02Speaker 1: take any old stamp. No, they have to be cute.
- 6:05Speaker 1: I kind of want to, like yeah, and sometimes I
- 6:07Speaker 1: SeeMe it like Halloween, it's more spooky Christmas. Don't purchase stamps,
- 6:12Speaker 1: my wife. Oh my god. There's a comedian that does
- 6:15Speaker 1: a whole bit about stamps, like how people don't only
- 6:19Speaker 1: like grandmas know how much stamps are. He's like, does
- 6:23Speaker 1: it's Nate bar Gatsy. He does a whole bit. You
- 6:25Speaker 1: guys an looking at He's like, what are they like
- 6:27Speaker 1: a hundred dollars of stamp? I don't know, like because
- 6:30Speaker 1: like how often are you mailing crap? Once in a while?
- 6:35Speaker 1: I'm also like, I hope this is enough. Yeah, they
- 6:40Speaker 1: keep raising it, so your stamps are like, you know,
- 6:43Speaker 1: don't useless. They're useless anymore. And you just don't know.
- 6:48Speaker 1: You don't want to go to the post office. You're like,
- 6:49Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stick on three extra time. Wait. So, Luke,
- 6:56Speaker 1: how do you feel about getting divorced? I mean, Scott,
- 7:02Speaker 1: thanks Amy. That happens to me quite a bit. Sometimes
- 7:07Speaker 1: people can't tell one from the other. You know me
- 7:13Speaker 1: better as Luke. You've spent more time with Luke than
- 7:15Speaker 1: you have with me in all the years I've known you,
- 7:18Speaker 1: I've only done that twice, and in the all the
- 7:20Speaker 1: and we've done the show for almost two years. It's
- 7:23Speaker 1: getting there and I've done that. That's a second time.
- 7:26Speaker 1: We're approaching. We're approaching two d episodes, so basically once
- 7:29Speaker 1: a year Amy. You know in a hundred episodes, Warner
- 7:32Speaker 1: Brothers gave us a big party and a big cake.
- 7:34Speaker 1: What did we give you? Hundred? A whole lot more
- 7:38Speaker 1: than that, smile Um Scott. We hit two hundred last week. No,
- 7:51Speaker 1: it's already two hundred. Yeah, as guys our cake, Yes,
- 7:58Speaker 1: thank you, it was beautiful, game loved. We're at two hundred.
- 8:05Speaker 1: We need to do is the two hundred and first episode?
- 8:13Speaker 1: Oh man, a hand for all of you, yeah and
- 8:17Speaker 1: everyone listening. Thank you for all your comments. I'll never
- 8:24Speaker 1: forget the sniffle comment. I'll never forget it. I did
- 8:28Speaker 1: get a couple of positives this week. Now I've got
- 8:31Speaker 1: Now I have a new new uh couple of paragraphs
- 8:34Speaker 1: I'm gonna put on my tombstone. He died with five
- 8:38Speaker 1: thousand dollars less than he should have had, and he
- 8:41Speaker 1: sniffed too many times. He slipped. He sniffled twenty times
- 8:46Speaker 1: more than he should have had. That's good without nothing.
- 8:49Speaker 1: So absolutely it was a very seasonal episode. It was
- 8:53Speaker 1: a seasonal cold. Okay, so excuse me for fighting off nasty.
- 9:03Speaker 1: I'm done with Micole because I would have given her
- 9:05Speaker 1: more chances, but she cheated on you with the suck guy.
- 9:08Speaker 1: It's like, but do we really know that? Is it?
- 9:13Speaker 1: I think I think right. I think you saw it
- 9:16Speaker 1: and it was painful. Yeah, it could be somebody. Some
- 9:22Speaker 1: there was a domestic dispute out in front of her
- 9:25Speaker 1: condo and somebody, No, somebody threw a pair of socks
- 9:29Speaker 1: through a window in a rage and then and then
- 9:33Speaker 1: she rolled them up perfectly in her drawer. Maybe maybe
- 9:36Speaker 1: she's retentive. Maybe she's the guy. Luke's the guy. Maybe
- 9:41Speaker 1: it's a guy who was helping fix the stove. A
- 9:45Speaker 1: stove alright, because Luke would have done that, right. Yeah,
- 9:51Speaker 1: she cheated on you. Yeah, sorry, Sorry, happens to the
- 9:55Speaker 1: best of us. Yeah, but that's here's the thing. It
- 10:00Speaker 1: was easier to like, I'm not that heartbroken for the
- 10:03Speaker 1: divorce because I already was heartbroken on the cheating, and
- 10:05Speaker 1: it's just like, okay, bye, Nicole By you were not
- 10:08Speaker 1: heartbroken on the cheating. You were thrilled, and Nicole, We're
- 10:13Speaker 1: not going to happen me. But I felt like Luke.
- 10:16Speaker 1: I was a little sad for Luke. Yeah, It's like
- 10:20Speaker 1: I felt a little bad for him. But I don't
- 10:22Speaker 1: think Luke is sad about it either, you know what
- 10:25Speaker 1: I mean? I agree with Scott, what do you think?
- 10:29Speaker 1: I agree with Danielle that I think Luke was a
- 10:32Speaker 1: little maybe but her that she cheated and that she
- 10:35Speaker 1: didn't do it the right way. But I don't think
- 10:37Speaker 1: he wanted to be like that. That's humiliating, Yeah, no
- 10:41Speaker 1: matter if you're in love with a person or not.
- 10:43Speaker 1: It's just it's just so disrespectful. Yeah. But I think
- 10:47Speaker 1: he's really just done and he's over written. He's processed
- 10:52Speaker 1: it in his lukey way, and he's moved on and
- 10:56Speaker 1: he just wants it done. And it's like you didn't
- 10:58Speaker 1: want to make a big old stink thing and now
- 11:00Speaker 1: lower lies you go for. Although you guys will start
- 11:05Speaker 1: laughing when you're all talking, because yes I have some balls.
- 11:09Speaker 1: Oh my god, I wrote that down as my favorite line.
- 11:14Speaker 1: Kirk is so good. And then they had a ten
- 11:17Speaker 1: minute conversation about Bewitched. We must spend time on pop
- 11:22Speaker 1: culture with Bewitched, the speaking of which a devastating loss yesterday,
- 11:28Speaker 1: Rack hell Welshan, you rest in peace. We want to
- 11:32Speaker 1: go back and watch some of those movies my friends
- 11:35Speaker 1: and I growing up. I can't tell you how many
- 11:37Speaker 1: times did you love her? Oh? God, everybody did? Everybody
- 11:41Speaker 1: did find Well, I can't decide if we should call
- 11:49Speaker 1: this episode this podcast episode. It wasn't running, I was walking,
- 11:53Speaker 1: It wasn't yelling. I was talking or trying to get
- 11:57Speaker 1: divorced here, trying to get the door. That was a
- 12:06Speaker 1: great like start to the whole thing, right, but but
- 12:12Speaker 1: it so wasn't about Luke this episode. So there's probably
- 12:16Speaker 1: a better name for it, you know what I mean.
- 12:19Speaker 1: I mean it's I know I need to break it
- 12:22Speaker 1: to you, but second time were reminding you, Yeah, title everything.
- 12:30Speaker 1: This is so funny, guys, because he doesn't he doesn't
- 12:34Speaker 1: think about this. Every episode of the podcast is titled
- 12:38Speaker 1: with a line that you deliver from that episode, except
- 12:42Speaker 1: for the couple of random episodes. Really yeah, the same
- 12:47Speaker 1: reaction last time. Whose idea was that since the very beginning.
- 12:58Speaker 1: Hopefully we didn't screw it up on like the very
- 13:00Speaker 1: first episode, but we thought about yeah, now you've done
- 13:04Speaker 1: thought of it right from the start. Well, I like
- 13:06Speaker 1: the divorce line was hysterically funny. Okay, well do you
- 13:09Speaker 1: trying to get divorced here? But the funny thing is
- 13:11Speaker 1: there is that like random episode You're not in and
- 13:13Speaker 1: I think we titled it Luke is not in this
- 13:16Speaker 1: open anyway. Okay, So that scene was great. It was great.
- 13:29Speaker 1: So then we go into the diner and Laurel lies
- 13:31Speaker 1: in her suit and you're fixing the toaster and oh
- 13:34Speaker 1: you still the thumbing. That was funny. Yeah, and then
- 13:39Speaker 1: they're kind of going back and forth. Right, there's a
- 13:41Speaker 1: little bit more. There's some good Luke Laurel lie in
- 13:44Speaker 1: this yeah, a little bit. Yeah. Okay, So then this
- 13:48Speaker 1: is when Jason calls and she's got the two cell
- 13:50Speaker 1: phones and he feeds her the pastry. Oh god, thank
- 13:56Speaker 1: you for bringing that up. That was so adorable and
- 14:00Speaker 1: intimate without even trying like it was like such a
- 14:05Speaker 1: nice gesture. But you're like, oh, it was really sweet.
- 14:07Speaker 1: That's relationshippy. That's like they're they're in the relationship, they
- 14:12Speaker 1: just don't know it yet. Yeah. I mean, it's like
- 14:16Speaker 1: the action is worth more than the words in that scene. Yeah,
- 14:21Speaker 1: but the way you just described that everybody take a
- 14:25Speaker 1: minute is exactly accurate. So relationshippy and they're in a relationship,
- 14:30Speaker 1: they just don't know it yet, And I yes, yes,
- 14:35Speaker 1: better myself. So what do we think about poor Jason.
- 14:39Speaker 1: My gosh, man, man, he got he got torn a
- 14:44Speaker 1: new one, didn't he old Jason? He got road hard
- 14:48Speaker 1: and put. I was going to say, he still doesn't
- 14:51Speaker 1: know what's going on here, work on his game. Also,
- 14:57Speaker 1: I was thinking, like I like a Rory left her
- 14:59Speaker 1: phone and it's like, oh, pick up my cell phone
- 15:01Speaker 1: when I see you, Like these days, I'd be like
- 15:03Speaker 1: running to pick up my phone wherever I leave it.
- 15:05Speaker 1: I think back then, though, it wasn't as stressful because
- 15:08Speaker 1: you really you didn't have all your numbers, It didn't
- 15:10Speaker 1: have your email, didn't have your tex. Yeah, it was
- 15:12Speaker 1: just like you had to like, what's the the t Tina?
- 15:15Speaker 1: Is it T nine? How did you say it? Like?
- 15:17Speaker 1: What is it? The way you at text and you
- 15:19Speaker 1: have to click the number like three times to get
- 15:21Speaker 1: the letter? Yeah? Take ten? That I never heard of
- 15:28Speaker 1: that Tina word e'sn just saying like word like correct?
- 15:32Speaker 1: They think thanks? I think so, But yeah, T nine
- 15:36Speaker 1: is what it was called. When you're like I need
- 15:38Speaker 1: to like get the letter C and you click number
- 15:41Speaker 1: three like or number one like three times to get there.
- 15:44Speaker 1: Because back in the day, if you lost your phone,
- 15:46Speaker 1: there's nothing in it I mean, you have to pay
- 15:48Speaker 1: for a new phone, but you weren't like, oh my god,
- 15:51Speaker 1: and there was nothing worse when you had like a
- 15:53Speaker 1: C and A together and you had to wait for
- 15:55Speaker 1: it to stop blinking. Yeah a oh my god, I
- 15:59Speaker 1: mean remember that, Oh my gosh. But yeah, I just
- 16:02Speaker 1: thought it was funny because I was like, you can
- 16:04Speaker 1: just tell the time of this show when you're just
- 16:06Speaker 1: like if I love my phone somewhere and now, I
- 16:09Speaker 1: wouldn't be like i'll see you in a week, I'll
- 16:11Speaker 1: pick it up. Then it's like a national security is
- 16:16Speaker 1: at that turn off turn off, like doing nothing where
- 16:19Speaker 1: you're like using to find my phone, like, yeah, what's
- 16:23Speaker 1: the code to self destruct my phone? Once I lost
- 16:33Speaker 1: my phone and I was literally calling like is there
- 16:35Speaker 1: any way to blow this thing up? Right? Soon? Soon
- 16:41Speaker 1: Apple is going to come out with a phone drone,
- 16:43Speaker 1: or if you lose it, it turns into a drone
- 16:46Speaker 1: and it flies home to you. The phone drone up
- 16:51Speaker 1: even has missiles so you can off some of your neighbors.
- 16:55Speaker 1: And at the time I did not have a pass code.
- 16:57Speaker 1: I don't know why, I just didn't and I love
- 16:59Speaker 1: my phone and like I'm not being braggy, but it
- 17:02Speaker 1: had so many celebrities phone numbers in it just because
- 17:05Speaker 1: of my job. I'm not friends with them, it's just
- 17:07Speaker 1: because my job. That I was literally like, you're like,
- 17:09Speaker 1: whoever picks that up hit the jackpot. I was like,
- 17:13Speaker 1: oh my god, they're gonna think this is like so fake.
- 17:16Speaker 1: But anyway, crazily a day later, it was still where
- 17:20Speaker 1: I left it, in a hotel room, and somebody had
- 17:24Speaker 1: stayed in the hotel room the night. It's my phone
- 17:29Speaker 1: still there, still there anyway, no one cares. So back
- 17:36Speaker 1: to so back to the whole thing. Here's my like
- 17:44Speaker 1: television question. It really looked like Digger was driving. So
- 17:48Speaker 1: does that mean he was driving or was he on
- 17:50Speaker 1: one of those things where someone's driving him. Yeah. Yeah,
- 17:54Speaker 1: it's called a process because it was that was good driving.
- 17:59Speaker 1: And it had to be Griffith Park, that like off
- 18:01Speaker 1: the five Freeway, that golf course, right, I think that
- 18:04Speaker 1: was it. Yeah, it's always near the studio. Yeah, that's
- 18:07Speaker 1: what I thought. I love like looking for the locations. Yeah.
- 18:10Speaker 1: Good note when whenever they take us on a driving
- 18:14Speaker 1: trailer rig whatever process shot, it would be very it
- 18:17Speaker 1: would just be the forest lawn, right, there. Yeah, as
- 18:22Speaker 1: out there, So then she hangs up with Jason, She's
- 18:25Speaker 1: not going to Rory. And I did think that it
- 18:26Speaker 1: was very funny, like, you know, we're not the Carrington's,
- 18:30Speaker 1: which was like that we talk about It was just
- 18:33Speaker 1: all very funny, but also like it's messy. This is messy. Yeah, well,
- 18:43Speaker 1: you know you introduced that element of the deception and
- 18:47Speaker 1: now the business intrigue and it's just business and this
- 18:53Speaker 1: is the move I'm making and yeah, I'm you know,
- 18:56Speaker 1: I don't blame her. I don't blame Richard for I
- 18:59Speaker 1: do the same thing. That's what You protect your nest egg,
- 19:02Speaker 1: you protect your pension, you protect your family, you protect
- 19:04Speaker 1: your home. There's a very interesting theory in the comments,
- 19:11Speaker 1: um and then I kind of went into a Reddit
- 19:13Speaker 1: threat I think maybe on it where some people felt
- 19:18Speaker 1: that Richard and Floyd were in cahoots essentially from the
- 19:23Speaker 1: time of planning the dinner, like that they were already
- 19:28Speaker 1: in cahoots. But my flag on that play is then
- 19:32Speaker 1: Richard wouldn't have been so emotional to Emily like or
- 19:36Speaker 1: Loria lie forget who he was talking to, like they
- 19:38Speaker 1: said they were going to take everything we have. I
- 19:40Speaker 1: think it was to lor Lie. So that was my
- 19:42Speaker 1: only thing on that theory, because there's some like theories,
- 19:47Speaker 1: fan theories on the whole Floyd Richard Digger Sich. Yeah,
- 19:53Speaker 1: I don't think it was premeditated either. I feel like
- 19:57Speaker 1: Emily would have known if it was, and she obviously
- 20:01Speaker 1: is having a very external reaction to the point. Yeah,
- 20:08Speaker 1: I think that that Richard made the game day decision
- 20:13Speaker 1: after Floyd presented with the lawsuit and he was like
- 20:17Speaker 1: f this, no, and went back and said, I'm going
- 20:20Speaker 1: to throw a Digger under the bus because I got
- 20:22Speaker 1: to save my nest egg. And he had the perfect
- 20:24Speaker 1: excuse to do it. There was deception and then the
- 20:27Speaker 1: lunch with thee so anyway, he had his out dramatic Yeah, okay,
- 20:41Speaker 1: So then we get to go back to Lane's apartment,
- 20:44Speaker 1: which I quite enjoy. Yeah, it's nice sort of something there.
- 20:50Speaker 1: It's nice, but there's not much there. At the same time,
- 20:55Speaker 1: I agree, right like it's I like it, but then
- 20:58Speaker 1: I'm like, can we get just like more, a little more.
- 21:02Speaker 1: It's like without Emily Corona in the scene raging away,
- 21:06Speaker 1: it's it's it's not as effective for me interesting. It's
- 21:11Speaker 1: like she's one of the most powerful dynamic presence on
- 21:15Speaker 1: that show, and just showing her in the background doing
- 21:18Speaker 1: little stuff here and there just isn't enough. How do
- 21:21Speaker 1: you like Zach? How do you guys feel about Zach?
- 21:24Speaker 1: The character of Zach like the roommates h I think
- 21:29Speaker 1: it's I mean, without giving anything away, I think that
- 21:32Speaker 1: because it was just so like it felt like a
- 21:34Speaker 1: bland scene. I think it is setting up the future
- 21:37Speaker 1: of of what we see later. So that's why I
- 21:40Speaker 1: didn't think too much of it. As someone who knows
- 21:42Speaker 1: what's coming. I was just like, this is a setup
- 21:44Speaker 1: for the future for me. Sebastian box, yeah is the
- 21:48Speaker 1: best part. I mean, give me Sebastian bok and a
- 21:52Speaker 1: velvet shirt, unbuttoned, short sleeve, you know, just there you go,
- 21:59Speaker 1: got the baby, there you go. I feel like the
- 22:03Speaker 1: band is just still so incomplete without Dave Kowski, like
- 22:08Speaker 1: like I'm still onto him, like he is a national treasure,
- 22:14Speaker 1: and he likes to point it's just a cover of
- 22:19Speaker 1: People magazine. He's with me. There's there's just only something missing.
- 22:26Speaker 1: When I see the band, I'm just like, where Steve
- 22:28Speaker 1: I needed him? You're right, there is there is a
- 22:31Speaker 1: giant hole there. Yeah. Without Sebastian Bach I would not
- 22:35Speaker 1: he definitely, Yeah, he completes it. Yeah, he's I missed.
- 22:40Speaker 1: I miss Adam Brodie Tube. Yeah. Sebastian has a big personality,
- 22:43Speaker 1: big presence. You know, he's you know, he's never going
- 22:48Speaker 1: to get accused of being Laurence Olivia, but he knows
- 22:51Speaker 1: he's great. But he's doing his thing and he's being himself,
- 22:55Speaker 1: which is really entertaining and fun. Right, because that's that's
- 22:59Speaker 1: the fast quick shout out to Adam Brody. Did anybody
- 23:03Speaker 1: watch that show that Adam Brodie is in with the
- 23:06Speaker 1: something about Fletcher? Oh god, you guys, it's really familiar.
- 23:10Speaker 1: Everyone should watch it. It's very good. Except for the
- 23:13Speaker 1: last episode. It has clear Danes and the guy from
- 23:16Speaker 1: Social network whose name is out of my mind. Come on, um,
- 23:22Speaker 1: Jesse Eisenberg. It's good. I know I'm not giving it
- 23:26Speaker 1: a great plug because I can't remember the name of it,
- 23:28Speaker 1: but it's so anyway, we're all gonna we're all going
- 23:31Speaker 1: to watch it, yeah, because we don't know what it is.
- 23:34Speaker 1: Said then Lane sees you're a lot of work, a
- 23:39Speaker 1: lot of work. You're a lot of work. First of all,
- 23:44Speaker 1: great callback great callback. Thank you. Uh we see the
- 23:49Speaker 1: the lane replacement student. You think she was just regretting
- 23:56Speaker 1: like every decision she made in that moment. Yeah, me,
- 24:00Speaker 1: not regret so much as she just missed her her
- 24:02Speaker 1: home and the band was doing well. She just she
- 24:05Speaker 1: loves her mom. Even though her mom is like tough,
- 24:07Speaker 1: they do love each other. And now she's living with
- 24:11Speaker 1: two guys that play video games instead of you know,
- 24:15Speaker 1: and they like her band. Fantasy communal lodging situation isn't
- 24:22Speaker 1: panning out the way she thought it would be. She's like,
- 24:25Speaker 1: she's become the mother. I could not live with two
- 24:27Speaker 1: boys at that age if I was nineteen years old.
- 24:31Speaker 1: And she's so much more emotionally mature than those guys,
- 24:36Speaker 1: you know that she probably just feels like, yeah, what
- 24:39Speaker 1: have I done here? Am I is this going to
- 24:43Speaker 1: be the next ten years of my life? I mean,
- 24:44Speaker 1: what happens if we're super successful? You know, the one
- 24:49Speaker 1: guy is gonna still eat beaten carrots from his mommy's pouch,
- 24:52Speaker 1: and the other guy is going to be with the
- 24:54Speaker 1: babes and you know, one's married with kids and and
- 24:58Speaker 1: one's married with kids. She's all alone in that band
- 25:01Speaker 1: basically although he fall explosion sounded sidebar uh poor. Then
- 25:11Speaker 1: we go to the driving range and that was just awkward.
- 25:15Speaker 1: Good swing from Jason Stuhls, good hearty golf swing. I
- 25:20Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I think Chris Agaman has spent a
- 25:24Speaker 1: little time on the link on the links, so yeah,
- 25:30Speaker 1: we're getting these sort of like little I don't know
- 25:34Speaker 1: what the right word is in undos, that's not the
- 25:36Speaker 1: right word, but little little signposts, signposts, yeah, clue. It's
- 25:42Speaker 1: like I just kind of like I did feel bad
- 25:44Speaker 1: for him in this moment at the golf course because
- 25:46Speaker 1: he was so out of the loop and everyone was
- 25:48Speaker 1: kind of just like, you don't know what's happening. That's
- 25:51Speaker 1: the worst. Yeah, like when you're the last to know
- 25:54Speaker 1: and everything. He's so good. Shout out to Chris. He's
- 25:58Speaker 1: so good, didn't he. You just believe everything he's doing
- 26:02Speaker 1: and and thinking and saying, he's he's really terrific. He
- 26:05Speaker 1: really Yeah, speaking of terrific, Shell giving the tour at
- 26:09Speaker 1: the end with all the little here, you know, like,
- 26:14Speaker 1: oh my god, it's so good, the cookies or Suki
- 26:19Speaker 1: with her broken FOOTO. I could be wrong, but was
- 26:23Speaker 1: it the first time we saw the Dragonfly in logo
- 26:26Speaker 1: like that, I think, so, I think on the car, yeah,
- 26:29Speaker 1: I think that's the first time we're saying that made
- 26:31Speaker 1: it really hit home, you know, because I really yeah,
- 26:34Speaker 1: they have a minivan, Yeah, the minivan. I was like, wait,
- 26:38Speaker 1: is that the first time we see the actual logo.
- 26:40Speaker 1: I do have a dragonflying cup that I'll bring next week,
- 26:43Speaker 1: But that's what I thought. I was like, where's my cup?
- 26:45Speaker 1: Because thanks to Luke they seem to be able to
- 26:48Speaker 1: have the minivan and the horses. They have the horses.
- 26:54Speaker 1: What do they have their horses for? People are going
- 26:56Speaker 1: to be taking their kids on the horses. I don't know,
- 26:58Speaker 1: maybe the back right, Yeah, it's always nice to have.
- 27:02Speaker 1: It is nice to see like the business up and
- 27:04Speaker 1: running and like, yeah, yeah, we've we've come a long way. Baby.
- 27:11Speaker 1: Right here we are the Dragonfly and looks divorced and
- 27:18Speaker 1: so then we yeah. So then now the belief is
- 27:21Speaker 1: going to hit the fan because now Jason knows what's
- 27:24Speaker 1: up and he's figured it out that Richard's got So
- 27:27Speaker 1: it's interesting that Richard's going back with Floyd but having
- 27:30Speaker 1: his own boutique agency under their banner. So Richard is
- 27:34Speaker 1: really hashtag winning and Jason is hosed. Richard always wins, right,
- 27:41Speaker 1: even when he's losing, he's winning. Um. And the thing
- 27:45Speaker 1: I liked about Jason is he even admitted, like he
- 27:47Speaker 1: goes it makes sense. He very was brilliant, like this
- 27:51Speaker 1: is brilliant. Yeah, and he was very sweet to Lorela.
- 27:55Speaker 1: He wasn't in that, like he wasn't blaming there, like
- 28:00Speaker 1: he wasn't like your dad's an Yeah he suck, your
- 28:05Speaker 1: family sucks all that, Like he didn't do any of that,
- 28:08Speaker 1: which is why I'm not We'll get there. I'm not
- 28:10Speaker 1: sure I agree with her decision, but we'll get there.
- 28:14Speaker 1: But we'll get there. Yeah, I guess you and I
- 28:17Speaker 1: are going to have a talk about that. I can't wait.
- 28:20Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I might be able to be
- 28:21Speaker 1: convinced choose your weapon now. That made me think of
- 28:28Speaker 1: Miss Plumb in the library with the candlestick. I did
- 28:35Speaker 1: think it was really sad when Digger literally was like,
- 28:38Speaker 1: I have to move. My reputation is really like that sucks.
- 28:44Speaker 1: But he didn't listen. He did it to himself, didn't
- 28:48Speaker 1: He made a move against his own father, who's extremely powerless. Yeah,
- 28:52Speaker 1: he didn't play the politics well at all. He took
- 28:55Speaker 1: up with Richard's daughter, How could you not? Right? Didn't
- 29:00Speaker 1: tell anybody. It was kind of his idea to keep
- 29:03Speaker 1: wasn't it his idea to keep her secret? And she
- 29:04Speaker 1: wanted to It was the other way around. It was
- 29:07Speaker 1: the other way around. He wanted to tell and she
- 29:10Speaker 1: wanted and she wanted to keep it a secret. And
- 29:13Speaker 1: we're skipping a scene, but I think it's important to
- 29:15Speaker 1: talk about it. Lorea Lie does go to Richard and
- 29:17Speaker 1: she does say, like, Jason was your partner. He's losing everything.
- 29:24Speaker 1: And that's when Richard sort of says, Lauraae, like I
- 29:27Speaker 1: cannot lose everything. But he's right about how she came
- 29:32Speaker 1: at him, right, It's like, how are you going to
- 29:34Speaker 1: come at somebody in that way? And he she didn't
- 29:37Speaker 1: express any concern or for his side of the story
- 29:40Speaker 1: or how it was going to affect him or or
- 29:43Speaker 1: or her mother Emily. Um, she just sort of she
- 29:46Speaker 1: didn't open up both battles on him, but she went
- 29:48Speaker 1: at him pretty pretty hard, a little disrespectfully, like, hey,
- 29:51Speaker 1: it's my my world is being affected, my world not
- 29:54Speaker 1: taking consideration. Yeah, yeah, I'm not saying loyally is right,
- 29:58Speaker 1: and I actually think it's interesting, is Emily, but just
- 30:02Speaker 1: let me But that's the misdirection. That scene was planted
- 30:04Speaker 1: there to surprise us on the ultimate when you and
- 30:09Speaker 1: I have our knife fight. Yes. So the thing I
- 30:13Speaker 1: like about Emily here is she goes to Richard because
- 30:16Speaker 1: ultimately what she cares about most is Laura lion Rory.
- 30:21Speaker 1: And she's really like not worried about the money. Now,
- 30:26Speaker 1: she's probably not being supportive enough of Richard and the
- 30:29Speaker 1: importance of his career per se, because really what she
- 30:33Speaker 1: cares about is Laura lion Rory. That's all she cares Okay, Okay,
- 30:38Speaker 1: and Laura life finding somebody and she realizes they have
- 30:41Speaker 1: a connection. Okay. So the way Richard sees it is
- 30:51Speaker 1: we lose everything, the house, the pension, everything, We're destitute, Okay,
- 30:56Speaker 1: to get to get sued to that level, you don't
- 30:59Speaker 1: know where you're gonna end up, right, And Richard, there's
- 31:04Speaker 1: only one choice he can make, and it has nothing
- 31:08Speaker 1: to do with lauralized relationship with Jason or Friday night
- 31:13Speaker 1: dinners or you know, he his hands that are tied.
- 31:19Speaker 1: Do you know what's crazy? Though, He's got to do
- 31:21Speaker 1: what he's gotta do. I do understand where Richard's coming from,
- 31:26Speaker 1: but I think Emily is taking it as Okay, fine,
- 31:29Speaker 1: we'll have our money and you'll have your job, but
- 31:32Speaker 1: we won't have lor Lie and we won't have Rory.
- 31:35Speaker 1: Like this is what I've been working for the last
- 31:38Speaker 1: few years to foster this relationship and now it's going
- 31:42Speaker 1: to go away because you screwed over her boyfriend. Like
- 31:44Speaker 1: I think she is panicking that things are going to
- 31:48Speaker 1: revert back to how they work for And here's what's interesting.
- 31:51Speaker 1: This is very important. I think Rory won't go away,
- 31:55Speaker 1: and Richard points that out. I agree, and I agree
- 31:58Speaker 1: cares about or A Lie because she I think somewhere
- 32:02Speaker 1: they both know Rory's not going anywhere. But Emily does
- 32:05Speaker 1: not want to lose Lora Lie again. Well, and she's like,
- 32:08Speaker 1: this is really about Laura Lie. And then you think
- 32:10Speaker 1: about it because like they are paying for Yale and
- 32:13Speaker 1: like you know, that's where they know Rory won't go away.
- 32:16Speaker 1: But I was also thinking, like it is interesting that
- 32:21Speaker 1: Richard didn't have a conversation with Emily about it, and
- 32:24Speaker 1: kind of just like like when was Emily going to
- 32:26Speaker 1: find out if she didn't stand at the corner of
- 32:28Speaker 1: the stairs to listen, you know, like, why would she
- 32:30Speaker 1: have known? That should have been a conversation between husband
- 32:33Speaker 1: and wife about there if it was a financial thing.
- 32:35Speaker 1: I feel like they should have had that conversation. And
- 32:38Speaker 1: so I think it just escalated because of the way
- 32:40Speaker 1: she found out. But I do understand both sides. I
- 32:45Speaker 1: just thought the and and let's point out that Sheila
- 32:48Speaker 1: Lawrence wrote this episode. What a what a brilliant set
- 32:51Speaker 1: up for what is to come right, all these complications,
- 32:54Speaker 1: all these nuances and subtleties within these relationships. How deaf
- 33:00Speaker 1: late it was handled in these episodes, because it is
- 33:03Speaker 1: leading up to a really really interesting scene, which I mean,
- 33:08Speaker 1: and I are going to talk about. I have a
- 33:10Speaker 1: few I think where you've got two major ones. So wait,
- 33:13Speaker 1: before we get to that, let's just talk about the
- 33:17Speaker 1: ash Or Fleming story. There's no other there's like no
- 33:22Speaker 1: other professor who's good looking at Yale. Like my whole
- 33:26Speaker 1: the whole time, I was like, the oldest professor is
- 33:29Speaker 1: the one all the girls are going for. I think
- 33:32Speaker 1: it's because he's worldly. I don't know if you guys
- 33:37Speaker 1: did this, but last night I was mourning the loss
- 33:40Speaker 1: of Rachel Welsh and I because it's my my childhood dying.
- 33:45Speaker 1: Every every day, somebody else from my child who was
- 33:47Speaker 1: passing away. And this is what happens when you get
- 33:49Speaker 1: a little bit older. This happens. They don't tell you this,
- 33:53Speaker 1: uh that it happens, but it happens, and it's it's
- 33:56Speaker 1: tough to deal with. Yeah, it's kind of rough. Um.
- 33:59Speaker 1: And then was a pick. She did a movie with
- 34:02Speaker 1: Michael York back in the seventies called The Three Musketeers,
- 34:09Speaker 1: and he was quite something back then. I mean the
- 34:13Speaker 1: long blonde hair, I mean just I mean the two
- 34:17Speaker 1: of them together, they're looks so good together in in
- 34:20Speaker 1: that period costumes. Um, so he was like he was
- 34:25Speaker 1: a major star, Michael or he was a charming, dashing
- 34:29Speaker 1: figure of the theater. And then he became a movie
- 34:31Speaker 1: star for obvious reasons. So you know he still got
- 34:35Speaker 1: it right as Fleming. Yeah, he's pretty cute twenty years ago,
- 34:39Speaker 1: even in this Yeah, he's still got it. He's definitely charming.
- 34:43Speaker 1: And I liked the confrontation he had with Rory that
- 34:49Speaker 1: was so let's just let's just talk it through. Let's
- 34:51Speaker 1: talk through everything as Do you think she was a
- 34:54Speaker 1: little out of line? I do. I thought that was
- 34:55Speaker 1: a very awkward scene. Yeah, I don't know if that
- 34:59Speaker 1: that that was the only seen in the whole uh
- 35:01Speaker 1: four episodes that I thought, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 35:07Speaker 1: I thought that was weird. I feel like you just
- 35:09Speaker 1: wouldn't approach a professor that way, even if he was
- 35:13Speaker 1: dating your roommate. It just seemed inappropriate. The fact that
- 35:19Speaker 1: this is like that actually just came out of your
- 35:21Speaker 1: mouth like that is just crazy, like he is dating
- 35:24Speaker 1: her roommate. But I think that's why she gets so
- 35:27Speaker 1: pissed and so like um over analytical on everything in
- 35:32Speaker 1: his class. But but also he's friends with Richard, so
- 35:35Speaker 1: she could have just DoD this easily assumed valid because valid.
- 35:40Speaker 1: But but the the impetus was was that Doyle let
- 35:43Speaker 1: her know that Escher has you know, a babe of
- 35:46Speaker 1: the Year of the semester or whatever. And you know,
- 35:51Speaker 1: I think I think it was the attempt to show
- 35:54Speaker 1: Rory being loyal to crazy Town. Yeah, so yeah, so,
- 36:00Speaker 1: and I don't I don't. I don't know that it
- 36:02Speaker 1: worked out the way we wanted it to work out,
- 36:05Speaker 1: But they got it in right, like Rory did the
- 36:09Speaker 1: noble thing, and like, I'm gonna call my great grading
- 36:12Speaker 1: system into question, and she's gonna get a couple of
- 36:15Speaker 1: shots in. And I mean, but that last line, you know,
- 36:18Speaker 1: I liked the redhead or whatever. It was like it
- 36:20Speaker 1: was a little little much. I thought he was going
- 36:23Speaker 1: to be like, final, I'll give you an F Like
- 36:25Speaker 1: I thought he was going to drop the grade right there.
- 36:27Speaker 1: I can't do that. My question is, but I think
- 36:31Speaker 1: he understood at the end of that scene that she
- 36:34Speaker 1: knew about the relationship. She didn't approve, she didn't approve
- 36:37Speaker 1: of him, and I don't, but don't hurt my friend.
- 36:41Speaker 1: He won, he won. He like he definitely won. Yeah, yeah,
- 36:47Speaker 1: he like he's like, this is why you got the
- 36:49Speaker 1: A you did X y Z. Like it was he
- 36:52Speaker 1: had the point, he had the points. I don't know
- 36:54Speaker 1: that he might dropped her. I think he closed. I
- 36:57Speaker 1: thought he closed. He slammed his case down at a
- 37:00Speaker 1: frustration like for that that was a moment that he
- 37:04Speaker 1: had been outed by Rory, like you're a dirty old man,
- 37:08Speaker 1: leave these girls alone. Yes he was. I disagree. He
- 37:13Speaker 1: was like, have you quite finished? Like he's judging him,
- 37:17Speaker 1: But why shouldn't she he's praying on his students. I
- 37:20Speaker 1: don't think he sees it that way. That's kind of vile.
- 37:24Speaker 1: He's technically not doing anything wrong, right Paris, Paris is
- 37:28Speaker 1: eighteen years old. He's not she's not a student in
- 37:31Speaker 1: his class. He's a British Maximadia. He's a British Maximadina.
- 37:35Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's right, but like, he's technically not
- 37:39Speaker 1: doing anything wrong. It's creepy, gross, but it's not right.
- 37:44Speaker 1: I didn't realize the decision. I didn't realize that she's
- 37:46Speaker 1: not his student. So yeah, that's actually good. No, because
- 37:49Speaker 1: she always comes into the class because Rory's there. You're right,
- 37:52Speaker 1: you're right, doesn't make it right. Yeah, I'm not saying
- 37:58Speaker 1: it's right. Any schools must have like morality clauses where
- 38:03Speaker 1: you don't do this and it would be definitely frowned upon. Yeah,
- 38:07Speaker 1: it's just like, but it's not Rory's place to go
- 38:11Speaker 1: in and be kind of self righteous about it. It's like,
- 38:16Speaker 1: I don't know. Look, things were different in nineteen sixty.
- 38:19Speaker 1: This happened all the time, things were looser. In nine eight,
- 38:22Speaker 1: these things happened all the time. Between students and teachers. Um,
- 38:26Speaker 1: it's just in two thousand it was still going on.
- 38:29Speaker 1: I think it's less appropriate these days, right, you know,
- 38:32Speaker 1: it's everything's sort of tightening up in society. Yeah, that's correct, right,
- 38:38Speaker 1: even more cringe, so it's more permissive. I mean as
- 38:41Speaker 1: we look back. Um, my question is is that dedication
- 38:46Speaker 1: for Paris? What does everybody think that booked out? I
- 38:51Speaker 1: think that's too whichever, it's the only thing he could
- 38:56Speaker 1: have done. What is he supposed to put some heartfelt
- 38:59Speaker 1: thing in there? And don't think that gets thrown in
- 39:01Speaker 1: the lawsuit. I think she thinks it was to her.
- 39:03Speaker 1: I don't know, she definitely did. She says it's about
- 39:07Speaker 1: me and my things, like, no, it is a girl.
- 39:11Speaker 1: They don't know who it's about. But I bet it's
- 39:13Speaker 1: not about only a slide guy like Asher would leave
- 39:18Speaker 1: it anonymous. So whichever lady he's you know, with at
- 39:22Speaker 1: the time her. Now the next question, did Rory deserve
- 39:31Speaker 1: the A? Yes, I mean it's not like she did
- 39:33Speaker 1: the work. Yeah, she did PhD level work connecting dogs. Yeah, yeah,
- 39:39Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, and I thought, okay, so so
- 39:42Speaker 1: yes or no? Did she overstep going to Asher and
- 39:47Speaker 1: being so pointing. I think yes. And also she got
- 39:51Speaker 1: an a It's like what were you what were you
- 39:53Speaker 1: going to get out of that? Like you wanted to
- 39:55Speaker 1: get to be you know, like she's going with it. Yeah,
- 40:00Speaker 1: I can see why she's annoyed with him because he's
- 40:03Speaker 1: I don't know, just yeah, but like not to like
- 40:09Speaker 1: challenge a grade that he gave her. Yeah, Like she
- 40:14Speaker 1: went out of her way, she went out of her
- 40:16Speaker 1: way to have that conversation. Yeah. And I think as
- 40:22Speaker 1: a teacher, you gotta be a little bit more respectful,
- 40:24Speaker 1: even if the guy's a creep. Yeah. Do we think
- 40:27Speaker 1: he's a creep A little creepy. He's a little a
- 40:33Speaker 1: little creepy, you know, on the creep scale, I would
- 40:37Speaker 1: say seven seven point eight five. He's just a guy
- 40:43Speaker 1: who likes, you know, he likes what he likes. He
- 40:47Speaker 1: likes what he likes, you know. Yeah. Do you think
- 40:50Speaker 1: Richard knows like that he dates younger women. He probably
- 40:55Speaker 1: thinks he dates like he knows he dates younger woman,
- 40:59Speaker 1: but maybe not Paris. I don't think Richard knows. I
- 41:02Speaker 1: think Richard would frown upon it. I don't think Richard
- 41:04Speaker 1: would approve of him dating students Paris, any of them.
- 41:11Speaker 1: I think if you're friends with somebody and longstanding friends,
- 41:15Speaker 1: you just sort of chuckle it there, idiosync. You don't
- 41:20Speaker 1: try to change people or give them lectures like Leo.
- 41:24Speaker 1: No one's like Leo, you should age it up. Yeah,
- 41:27Speaker 1: there's nobody in his circle telling them like, hey, you
- 41:30Speaker 1: got to rethink this. They're going when are you going
- 41:32Speaker 1: out again? Does she have a friend a sister. While
- 41:38Speaker 1: we're on the topic of Asher, let me tell you
- 41:39Speaker 1: what hurt my brain when he goes. Next week, we're
- 41:43Speaker 1: going to talk about the neglect of the individual as
- 41:45Speaker 1: a hallmark of modern government, which hurt my brain, which
- 41:50Speaker 1: I kind of get. And then something about coughka, which
- 41:53Speaker 1: I was just like, writ existentialism, yes too hard, Yeah, yeah,
- 41:59Speaker 1: kind tea Jersey literature English, Yeah, inful you know, the
- 42:10Speaker 1: in in the individual within a system of socialism and
- 42:15Speaker 1: individual and a system of free market capitalism. It's all different, right,
- 42:21Speaker 1: representative democracy versus you know, a tyrannical government. How how
- 42:25Speaker 1: it affects the individual? Right? I mean, what's what's so competent?
- 42:38Speaker 1: If we skipped laying at the diner all again? My lines?
- 42:42Speaker 1: What are you doing with my lines. What's happening, that's
- 42:45Speaker 1: my scene that's going on. Get out. Do you see
- 42:48Speaker 1: me running around the Kim's antiques, sneaking around trying to
- 42:53Speaker 1: make things happen? You know, No, that's a bad comparison.
- 42:56Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, I mean it's not. It's actually not.
- 42:59Speaker 1: And think right, your only line was like su had
- 43:02Speaker 1: to go to the bank, right, and that was a loop.
- 43:04Speaker 1: The part of that was looped to and it took
- 43:06Speaker 1: me out of it. Part of Luke's stuff was looped.
- 43:09Speaker 1: Oh that was looped and no one else was here.
- 43:13Speaker 1: Let's go back the loop. The Laurela and Jason conversation
- 43:19Speaker 1: at the end when he's pacing back and forth and
- 43:21Speaker 1: he found out that he's done. Yeah, some of that
- 43:24Speaker 1: was looped in. Yes, yes, wow, I want to go
- 43:29Speaker 1: back now, yes, rewatch it's night. Just just it's a
- 43:35Speaker 1: sound it's a sound quality. It doesn't sound like it
- 43:39Speaker 1: doesn't sound right. Her voice when she's there talking, it
- 43:43Speaker 1: sounds like a voice that's been installed. And then Lane
- 43:48Speaker 1: has the confrontation with the exchange that was for the
- 43:55Speaker 1: exchange students. She was thought that was funny. So that
- 44:01Speaker 1: girl was really funny. I did think it was really
- 44:03Speaker 1: sweet when when she said, like, did Mrs Kim mentioned
- 44:07Speaker 1: she has a daughter and she said yes, well yeah,
- 44:11Speaker 1: And then we have that scene where they where she
- 44:13Speaker 1: goes into the house and which, by the way, so
- 44:16Speaker 1: weird that she walked into the house to watch her.
- 44:18Speaker 1: I think that was I go flag on the play
- 44:22Speaker 1: because I know if anybody broke into Mrs Kim's house,
- 44:26Speaker 1: she will get up and she knows she's got that place.
- 44:33Speaker 1: You would you would hear someone opening the door. That
- 44:37Speaker 1: was heartbreaking. That scene was heartbreaking. That was my favorite
- 44:41Speaker 1: Lane scene ever. It was it. Yeah, it was heartbreaking,
- 44:47Speaker 1: beautiful scene, beautiful, the emptiness of being on the road
- 44:52Speaker 1: with a rock band. It's not fulfilling. You want your
- 44:55Speaker 1: mom kiss her on the forehead as she sleeps, and
- 44:59Speaker 1: she won't. Oh it, it's beautiful. It's a beautiful moment.
- 45:05Speaker 1: So here's my question, Danielle. It's really for Danielle and
- 45:09Speaker 1: a little bit for Scott. What was going through your
- 45:13Speaker 1: mind when you first see Richard opened the door and
- 45:17Speaker 1: clearly he's like not, he's trying to doesn't have ice,
- 45:20Speaker 1: He's trying to do things. Emily walks in with her purse,
- 45:24Speaker 1: like what was going on. I thought that they were
- 45:26Speaker 1: having sex in the in the kitchen and they got
- 45:31Speaker 1: caught and they had to stop. That's funny. I did
- 45:35Speaker 1: not think that. That's funny, Scott. I did think that,
- 45:38Speaker 1: and I think they wanted us to think that, because
- 45:40Speaker 1: their behavior was that, especially Emily's behavior, they were so
- 45:45Speaker 1: off that it was like, you know, they were just
- 45:50Speaker 1: railing each other. Man, What did you think, Danielle? So
- 45:54Speaker 1: I when I was watching it, I was like, Okay,
- 45:57Speaker 1: there's there's something off, obvious, something's happening. And then the
- 46:03Speaker 1: light bulb went off when there was no dessert, and
- 46:07Speaker 1: I realized that they wanted to end this as soon
- 46:11Speaker 1: as possible and I could get back to the kitchen
- 46:13Speaker 1: and finish the job. No, I just because like Emily
- 46:17Speaker 1: doesn't do a dinner without dessert, you know what I mean.
- 46:20Speaker 1: And she didn't know what was on the menu, she
- 46:23Speaker 1: didn't know what they were eating, like all that kind
- 46:25Speaker 1: of stuff. I was like, Oh, there's a there's a
- 46:27Speaker 1: problem internally here, like I there's something off yea like
- 46:32Speaker 1: throwing them out with little goodie bags of chocolate here
- 46:34Speaker 1: by like this never happened. It was weirder on this
- 46:37Speaker 1: I mean, rewatch, I've seen it many times. There was
- 46:42Speaker 1: I knew it, so I don't remember what I thought
- 46:45Speaker 1: when I saw it the very first time when it
- 46:47Speaker 1: aired on television, like because it is sort of a whoa. Yeah,
- 46:55Speaker 1: by the way, how great was that scene? How funny?
- 46:57Speaker 1: Was insane? The dinner larious? No, I mean Emily and
- 47:02Speaker 1: Richard's behavior and just so great. You know how hard
- 47:07Speaker 1: that is to do on that kind of stuff. You
- 47:11Speaker 1: know what I noticed? That was very smart of somebody
- 47:16Speaker 1: in production. No flowers on the table, the table, Yes,
- 47:21Speaker 1: it did seem very stark, didn't it. Yes, always has flowers,
- 47:26Speaker 1: extravagant centerpieces. And obviously she's not there, she's not doing that.
- 47:32Speaker 1: But but right exactly, and there was. It wasn't the
- 47:35Speaker 1: table was not set, there was no center piece. There
- 47:37Speaker 1: was nothing that too. But here's a flag on the play,
- 47:43Speaker 1: and especially in people of their age. Richard would have
- 47:49Speaker 1: gone to the hotel. If a couple like Richard and
- 47:53Speaker 1: Emily decide to get into some sort of argument and
- 47:56Speaker 1: separate whatever it is, Emily would have had the house,
- 48:00Speaker 1: Richard would have gone to that. I disagree though, because
- 48:02Speaker 1: Richard is not the one that's upset, like Emily is
- 48:06Speaker 1: the one that is not happy with his you're saying
- 48:09Speaker 1: she just said, like I'm going to hotel. Yeah, I
- 48:12Speaker 1: think I think she was like, I don't even recognize you.
- 48:14Speaker 1: I'm out, you know, like it. Speaking speaking of flags
- 48:19Speaker 1: on the play, give it. What the heck is going
- 48:23Speaker 1: on with that ref in the Super Bowl? Throwing a
- 48:26Speaker 1: flag with a minute thirty to go on, a little
- 48:30Speaker 1: ticky cat nothing we understand. Let it. Let it out,
- 48:35Speaker 1: for God's sake. I'm fulfilly boy, man, I understand that
- 48:38Speaker 1: people are upset the eagles flying high then shot down
- 48:42Speaker 1: by the flags. Sorry, I'm not gonna lie you for
- 48:45Speaker 1: a second. I was like, there was like rough on
- 48:47Speaker 1: my golf course in the episode. It was like, wait,
- 48:51Speaker 1: I missed. I just needed to I needed to get
- 48:54Speaker 1: that out. You know. So you think a sort of
- 49:00Speaker 1: in a fight as opposed to like, okay, I'm completely wrong.
- 49:03Speaker 1: They weren't having sex. They weren't in a fight. She
- 49:06Speaker 1: was already out of the house. Your superior observation skills
- 49:10Speaker 1: and logic skills have trumped me yet again. The park,
- 49:14Speaker 1: the car was parked out there. She was just coming
- 49:16Speaker 1: in to get something and leave. Well, then at the
- 49:18Speaker 1: end when she leaves, when they was coming in for dinner,
- 49:20Speaker 1: because they're going to try and pretend you're not telling
- 49:23Speaker 1: the girl because she's just coming in as part of
- 49:26Speaker 1: the ruse. So now every Friday night, she wasn't the table.
- 49:31Speaker 1: Why wasn't the table set if they're trying to because
- 49:36Speaker 1: they weren't they early too, they were really Yeah, they
- 49:41Speaker 1: were early, and they weren't that early. Twenty minutes. I
- 49:46Speaker 1: mean twenty minutes you can put flowers of flowers on
- 49:48Speaker 1: a vase on the table and get things situated. And
- 49:52Speaker 1: Richard doesn't know what he's doing what he does, so
- 49:54Speaker 1: he's all doesn't know what's going And at the end
- 49:57Speaker 1: when they when they hide and see her get in
- 49:59Speaker 1: the car and leave. You like she didn't dry cleaning
- 50:01Speaker 1: with the dry clean she didn't even wait like five
- 50:04Speaker 1: minutes she was out. It was funny, going my shoes,
- 50:07Speaker 1: my shoes, my shoes, nice shoes, nice shoes. I don't
- 50:11Speaker 1: want the bushes, I don't. But wouldn't she have seen
- 50:18Speaker 1: their car still there? That's the weird part. Two. Yeah,
- 50:21Speaker 1: it's a little there's a little bit of like we
- 50:24Speaker 1: have to she's probably so just in She's like, I
- 50:30Speaker 1: just want to get out, Like yeah, for sure. So
- 50:34Speaker 1: then we have the big performance at the gig, got
- 50:39Speaker 1: the gig? Did you notice? No you go? Did she
- 50:45Speaker 1: notice the background actor just like singing every word in
- 50:48Speaker 1: the crowd? And I was like, how many times do
- 50:50Speaker 1: they do this take where this guy knows every word?
- 50:54Speaker 1: You knew every word? Uh? What did you think of
- 51:00Speaker 1: the overall scene? I mean I get the whole point
- 51:02Speaker 1: there sad plane, like she didn't have anybody there. Yeah,
- 51:09Speaker 1: I mean right, Brian's got his like weird family, screw
- 51:13Speaker 1: your dreams, get back to your get back to your mother,
- 51:15Speaker 1: screw your dreams. Oh interesting, that's what the scene was, right,
- 51:20Speaker 1: So that's an interesting take. It's not wrong. Mine was like,
- 51:25Speaker 1: she's so she's living her dream and she's so lonely.
- 51:28Speaker 1: She wants her family there to support her, which is
- 51:31Speaker 1: so complicated because she's got this, but it's not it's
- 51:35Speaker 1: not very rock and roll, is it. No, but everybody
- 51:39Speaker 1: had somebody, Zack Scott, the ladies, you know, Sebastian Box
- 51:43Speaker 1: got his. Not sports. It's not sports, you know, where
- 51:46Speaker 1: you want your family to come cheer you on. It's
- 51:52Speaker 1: you don't want the very rock and roll just get
- 51:54Speaker 1: plastered and about the way and find a guy, like,
- 51:59Speaker 1: I mean, but then you hang out with your band
- 52:01Speaker 1: meats right or whatever? Like how are you going to
- 52:04Speaker 1: hang out with those bandmates on one's got his mommy
- 52:08Speaker 1: with a bag of carrots, the other one that is
- 52:10Speaker 1: like thinks he's Hugh Hefner, and the other one is like,
- 52:13Speaker 1: you know, macin on his wife right in the hallway there.
- 52:16Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's more of not feeling supported,
- 52:20Speaker 1: Like everyone had a support system there and she didn't.
- 52:23Speaker 1: That's really what it is. Not even a friend. Yeah,
- 52:28Speaker 1: I just literally wrote, poor, Well what did you excuse me?
- 52:31Speaker 1: What did she expect her mother to show up to
- 52:34Speaker 1: a rock concert? What did she what did she expect?
- 52:39Speaker 1: I think she expect she doesn't have people. Well, you know,
- 52:45Speaker 1: Rory could have come, but she had to go to
- 52:47Speaker 1: this fiasco. But there's only one friend, Like she doesn't
- 52:50Speaker 1: even have anyone else that would come, Like, has no one? Yeah,
- 52:55Speaker 1: m she could make more friends, you know, I mean
- 52:58Speaker 1: right right, look, rock and roll. Let me tell you something.
- 53:02Speaker 1: I know this from experience. Rock and roll is a
- 53:04Speaker 1: lonely rude. I think it just reminds I agree, I
- 53:11Speaker 1: don't write I wouldn't want to live on a tour
- 53:12Speaker 1: bus if you paid me a millionaire. Well not at
- 53:15Speaker 1: this age, no way, when you're nineteen. Really amplified Delane
- 53:20Speaker 1: like she has no one and she and now she's
- 53:24Speaker 1: been replaced, that other girl has her apple. Yeah, that's
- 53:29Speaker 1: that's just the big thing. Being replaced is very, very
- 53:33Speaker 1: tough to swallow. That's that's a that's a hard one.
- 53:36Speaker 1: And then this just triggered that. Yeah, well if you
- 53:43Speaker 1: get if you get replaced, if you get dumped by
- 53:45Speaker 1: your own mother and replaced, you just go out there
- 53:50Speaker 1: and write a song about it. I mean, go play
- 53:53Speaker 1: harder the next gig, go party harder. Possibly Scott with
- 53:59Speaker 1: his cold stone heart. But here we get to the
- 54:03Speaker 1: debate rock and roll man. She's entered the she's entered
- 54:07Speaker 1: the Colosseum, right, she wanted it. So here's the next one.
- 54:11Speaker 1: Now we're in the cafe and Laura Lae says to Jason,
- 54:16Speaker 1: obviously telling him her parents are separated. The best scene
- 54:21Speaker 1: I have ever seen from Lauren Graham. This was impressive,
- 54:31Speaker 1: and I thought it was impressive in the way she
- 54:34Speaker 1: handled it because it wasn't a big, wile, ugly fight.
- 54:40Speaker 1: You know, it didn't get out of hand. It was
- 54:43Speaker 1: just she chose her family. Her family became like you
- 54:49Speaker 1: you can't, but you don't have to do this. You
- 54:51Speaker 1: can't sue my family, right, And it was just like,
- 54:55Speaker 1: that's Laura La Gilmore, that is Emily and Richard's daughter. Right.
- 55:00Speaker 1: For me, that was as significant a statement as I've
- 55:05Speaker 1: ever seen in this show. And it was a beautiful moment.
- 55:08Speaker 1: It was a beautiful, full circle moment for me as
- 55:11Speaker 1: a fan of the show. And I don't think she's
- 55:14Speaker 1: ever looked that good. I don't think she's ever been
- 55:17Speaker 1: more appealing as a character. And I fell in love
- 55:20Speaker 1: with her all over again. I was like, yes, I
- 55:23Speaker 1: want that's the that's the woman. I want her family.
- 55:28Speaker 1: You do not assume my family. And it was an
- 55:31Speaker 1: easy and what I loved the ease of the transition
- 55:35Speaker 1: of like we used to be together, now we're not together,
- 55:38Speaker 1: and I'm going to leave now without any fanfare bye,
- 55:41Speaker 1: and just the look in her eyes. It wasn't dramatic,
- 55:44Speaker 1: it was, but it was the but therefore it was
- 55:48Speaker 1: the soul of drama because she didn't give that much.
- 55:51Speaker 1: There was an easy decision. I agree with how you're
- 55:53Speaker 1: saying it. And she's like, he's saying it's just business,
- 55:56Speaker 1: and she's like, you don't have to do this, Like
- 55:58Speaker 1: do you think it was her best I've ever seen her?
- 56:03Speaker 1: Do you think anything would have changed if she didn't
- 56:04Speaker 1: have the conversation with Richard first though about like financials
- 56:08Speaker 1: and stuff. She had to have the conversation with Richard.
- 56:10Speaker 1: She had to come off that way. No. No, I'm saying,
- 56:13Speaker 1: like what if I think No, I think that if
- 56:16Speaker 1: Jason suing, then it's just done. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
- 56:22Speaker 1: You know that. You're right, you're gonna assume my family.
- 56:25Speaker 1: You're gonna put me in that pickle. It's like, I
- 56:28Speaker 1: know what my father did to you, but think about
- 56:30Speaker 1: what what you did to get, you know, just to
- 56:34Speaker 1: heat up your to boil yourself in your own pot.
- 56:37Speaker 1: Because he was being completely selfish and that's I mean
- 56:40Speaker 1: Richard was as well, but Richard was more of a
- 56:42Speaker 1: family thing. And and for for Jason, it's like it's
- 56:45Speaker 1: just about his reputation. That's all it comes down to.
- 56:49Speaker 1: Love love that scene, that scene. Yeah, I agree. Right
- 56:53Speaker 1: after that, I wrote, Wow this up. Yeah, that was powerful.
- 56:58Speaker 1: That was powerful scene, and I thought he played it
- 57:01Speaker 1: beautifully too, because obviously he knew beforehand what the scene
- 57:04Speaker 1: was about. So I think the two of the two
- 57:06Speaker 1: of them handled that that beautifully. That scene, that's my
- 57:09Speaker 1: favorite scene, and it might be the entire four years
- 57:13Speaker 1: so far. I just I loved her in that scene.
- 57:17Speaker 1: I thought, man, what you know? So proud to know
- 57:23Speaker 1: brings us to favorite lines, which I think that's easy agreement,
- 57:28Speaker 1: that's easy. Go ahead, Tara. I mean we did how
- 57:33Speaker 1: many lucial balls? Yeah, I think I'm gonna do how
- 57:41Speaker 1: many divorce decrees? Like mine was the same as Taras
- 57:48Speaker 1: so whole scene. Yeah, I'm like, the whole face mar
- 57:58Speaker 1: this episode? What do we what do do? How many mailboxes? Etcetera?
- 58:02Speaker 1: Or what about the what was it? The meatball thing?
- 58:06Speaker 1: May meatball explosions on the forehead? How many? How many
- 58:11Speaker 1: lonely symbol slaps? Should everybody do their own? Yes? Maybe
- 58:16Speaker 1: we should always do our Just pick one and go
- 58:19Speaker 1: with it, Daniel, nine out of ten kisses on the forehead, Mom, Tara,
- 58:27Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a nine out of ten meatball explosions.
- 58:33Speaker 1: I was going eight point five meatball explosions, but I
- 58:36Speaker 1: think I'll do um instead, I'll do eight point five
- 58:39Speaker 1: Dragonfly minivans. There you go. I'm gonna give it um
- 58:50Speaker 1: nine point nine eight broken Suki foots, good one, good one?
- 59:01Speaker 1: Favorite lines? What's favorite lines? We did them? Well? Who
- 59:05Speaker 1: did them? Who did? Who did you? I didn't hear yours?
- 59:10Speaker 1: What were yours? But I have I have I have
- 59:13Speaker 1: some balls. Oh so everybody liked the balls thing? All right?
- 59:16Speaker 1: That was my least favorite line. Oh yeah, it was. Uh.
- 59:21Speaker 1: I like Rory's line when she said, uh, I know,
- 59:26Speaker 1: you know, people get all that. They say things change,
- 59:28Speaker 1: but not in the same and not in one week,
- 59:34Speaker 1: all in one. Alright, everybody, Next episode, Season four, Episode
- 59:38Speaker 1: twenty one, almost done, Season four, Luke can see her face.
- 59:43Speaker 1: Oh oh, could this be the episode? Is this the
- 59:48Speaker 1: lead up to this finale? Oh no, this is not
- 59:52Speaker 1: the finale? I guess Oh this is this is really
- 59:54Speaker 1: heating up, folks, heating up? Right? Um? Alright, a US,
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: that's that terrific episode. Um. This is the first time
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: I haven't given something to ten in a long time.
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: It's nine point nine eight is fine, it's point to
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