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- 1:08Speaker 1: Title show Blackhawks goalie is the future Spencer Night. Let's
- 1:12Speaker 1: get into this one. Sinser Knight shines in the Blackhawk's
- 1:15Speaker 1: debut forty one saves, by the way, and in his
- 1:20Speaker 1: forty one saves. He became the fourth goalie with forty
- 1:24Speaker 1: plus saves in black in their Blackhawks debut, following the
- 1:28Speaker 1: likes of Ed belfour forty five on on October eighteenth,
- 1:36Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight. Get that a forty five year old
- 1:41Speaker 1: forty five saves. Jeff Glass had forty two saves in
- 1:43Speaker 1: December twenty ninth, twenty seventeen, Mike, and I don't know
- 1:47Speaker 1: about December twenty ninety, spent a birthday with me right
- 1:49Speaker 1: out in Tampa. And of course Jill Mlass familiar name
- 1:54Speaker 1: forty two saves on March sixteenth and nineteen seventy one.
- 1:57Speaker 1: So I want to credit the cast and Post podcast
- 1:59Speaker 1: for writing this information. But do you think, Mike, that
- 2:03Speaker 1: Spencer Night, I know so early in the game, but
- 2:05Speaker 1: he's Tony Ashkozidel is a great goaltender with the black Hawks.
- 2:08Speaker 1: He's young. The future is really out pretty bright for
- 2:11Speaker 1: this kid. Is that too much first arm? Or do
- 2:13Speaker 1: you think that Spencer Night is much better but he
- 2:16Speaker 1: simply got buried in the goaltending situation in Florida.
- 2:22Speaker 4: Well, I don't think this is too much for him.
- 2:24Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, he comes from my alma
- 2:27Speaker 4: mat of Boston College. So he's a little bit, a
- 2:30Speaker 4: little bit younger than I am, so we didn't we
- 2:32Speaker 4: didn't share the same ice together. But but I know
- 2:35Speaker 4: a lot about Spencer since he was a kid. Of course,
- 2:38Speaker 4: his years at BC, when he did very well and
- 2:41Speaker 4: ended up being a first round pick, you know, a
- 2:45Speaker 4: couple of things unfortunate. He had a little bit of
- 2:49Speaker 4: a substance issue, which you know, he had to take
- 2:52Speaker 4: a respite from the Panthers and take some time and
- 2:56Speaker 4: rehab from everything. I hear he's got that under control
- 3:00Speaker 4: and he's got his life straightened out, which is great
- 3:02Speaker 4: because he's a he's a talented kid. He's a good
- 3:04Speaker 4: size kid. When the Panthers drafted him, he definitely was
- 3:09Speaker 4: the goalie of the future. But like any goaltender, they
- 3:14Speaker 4: develop a little bit later than other players. They also
- 3:17Speaker 4: play a lot longer than other players. It's very there's
- 3:21Speaker 4: very few guys you can put in the NHL at eighteen, nineteen,
- 3:24Speaker 4: twenty years old and they'll have a successful career. There are,
- 3:29Speaker 4: you know, there are the odd ones, but most of them,
- 3:33Speaker 4: even like a guy like Vasilevski, for instance, takes a
- 3:36Speaker 4: couple of years and then they go on to have long, great,
- 3:39Speaker 4: great careers. As far as the Panthers look, they're in
- 3:45Speaker 4: the window now of winning Stanley Cups, and they've got
- 3:48Speaker 4: one of the best goaltenders in the game in Bobrovski,
- 3:52Speaker 4: so you know they need to continue to stay in
- 3:55Speaker 4: that window as long as possible. You look at organizations
- 3:59Speaker 4: like Tampa who apparently still in the window, Chicago when
- 4:04Speaker 4: they won their Cups and over the course of eight
- 4:06Speaker 4: or ten years they were Stanley Cup contender every year.
- 4:10Speaker 4: Pittsburgh's done in the past, the Red Wings. Of course,
- 4:13Speaker 4: you know, the Panthers are in that window right now.
- 4:16Speaker 4: They've been to the finals two years in a row.
- 4:18Speaker 4: They want to continue to try to take advantage of
- 4:20Speaker 4: this time to win a Stanley Cup. And so what
- 4:23Speaker 4: they needed wasn't another super goaltender because they already have one.
- 4:28Speaker 4: So you know, they had to give something to get
- 4:31Speaker 4: what they really needed. What they really needed was a
- 4:34Speaker 4: big defenseman, right. I mean, they're at a premium. If
- 4:38Speaker 4: you look through the history of NHL trade deadline moves,
- 4:43Speaker 4: the teams that are usually successful in the end aren't
- 4:45Speaker 4: the teams that try to add a big score. Look
- 4:49Speaker 4: at what Carolina did last year with getting Genzeled. Look
- 4:52Speaker 4: at what the Rangers did two years ago going out
- 4:54Speaker 4: and getting Patrick Kine. That's usually not the formula to
- 4:57Speaker 4: win the Cup either is trying to find that goaltender
- 5:00Speaker 4: at the deadline that's going to get you across the
- 5:02Speaker 4: finish line. The formula is to fortify your defense, right.
- 5:06Speaker 4: I mean, that's when things get really tough in the playoffs.
- 5:09Speaker 4: That's when you need some big guys back there. And
- 5:12Speaker 4: they got a they got a really good one. I
- 5:15Speaker 4: know for a fact because I was working for the
- 5:18Speaker 4: Panthers when we were you know, when we were looking
- 5:21Speaker 4: at that two thousand nine draft, which you know, we
- 5:26Speaker 4: had the second pick. It was between Barkoff and this
- 5:31Speaker 4: big guy and you know Jones Jones, and we decided
- 5:35Speaker 4: to go with Barkoff. We just thought in that position,
- 5:38Speaker 4: the center position was more important for us. We liked
- 5:41Speaker 4: what Barkoff brought in his leadership. Jones went, you know,
- 5:44Speaker 4: I believe the very next pick to Nashville. He's bounced
- 5:48Speaker 4: around a little bit, you know, from Nashville obviously, Chicago,
- 5:52Speaker 4: Columbus and now in Florida. But he's you know, he's
- 5:56Speaker 4: still got some some good years ahead of him, and
- 5:58Speaker 4: you can't argue with that's and his ability. He's he's
- 6:01Speaker 4: exactly what the Panthers needed right now. So that's a
- 6:05Speaker 4: multiple I just said, I know, but but I think
- 6:08Speaker 4: it gives you a little bit of background on why
- 6:09Speaker 4: the deal is made and how it was meal made.
- 6:12Speaker 4: And I think Spencer and I will go on to
- 6:14Speaker 4: have a great career, hopefully for a long time. In Chicago.
- 6:17Speaker 4: They need a goaltender to build their franchise, right I mean,
- 6:21Speaker 4: he's they need cornerstones. They drafted Bdard a year and
- 6:25Speaker 4: a half ago, almost two years ago. He needs some
- 6:28Speaker 4: help around him. And if you're going to build an organization,
- 6:32Speaker 4: you might as well start from the goal.
- 6:35Speaker 1: Now, as I understand, I believe the black House get
- 6:37Speaker 1: a first round pick in twenty seven and the Panthers
- 6:40Speaker 1: get a fourth end twenty six. I remember, So you're right, Mike,
- 6:44Speaker 1: Indeed you have a cornerstone goaltender, Seth Jones. I know,
- 6:47Speaker 1: as I understand Chicago, he's about two and a half
- 6:49Speaker 1: million dollars of that salary. The Panthers get a rest
- 6:52Speaker 1: will be more talk about more than the Panthers after this.
- 6:55Speaker 1: But that part of the money where the money will work.
- 6:58Speaker 1: But yeah, you make a lot of interesting shorge or
- 7:00Speaker 1: your thoughts about the way the.
- 7:01Speaker 4: Streight number two. I mean, when you start talking about
- 7:04Speaker 4: first round draft picks in any sport, when you talk
- 7:06Speaker 4: about tours round draft picks with Florida, you're probably talking
- 7:10Speaker 4: about that pick being somewhere between twenty seven, twenty eight
- 7:13Speaker 4: and thirty two. Right, So, I mean it's the first
- 7:17Speaker 4: round pick, don't get me wrong, but there's a lot different. Uh,
- 7:21Speaker 4: it's a lot different picking in the top, you know,
- 7:23Speaker 4: four or five six picks as it is picking in
- 7:26Speaker 4: the last four or five six picks in the second round.
- 7:28Speaker 4: You know, the NHL is still a league that draft's
- 7:31Speaker 4: eighteen year olds. Some of these kids that are getting
- 7:33Speaker 4: picked are only seventeen years old, and it's an inexact
- 7:36Speaker 4: science when you're trying to predict what a seventeen or
- 7:39Speaker 4: eighteen year old is going to be when he's twenty
- 7:41Speaker 4: four or twenty five. So it's a little different than
- 7:44Speaker 4: you know, what people see and say the NFL draft
- 7:46Speaker 4: or the NBA draft, right, it's you know, it's a
- 7:51Speaker 4: little bit of a crap.
- 7:52Speaker 5: Shoot.
- 7:54Speaker 1: Well, you make a great point about goaltenders developing the
- 7:56Speaker 1: relics of a situation with Sebastian Gosa. Everybody's looking at
- 7:59Speaker 1: him eventually getting there. It's not a matter if, it's
- 8:01Speaker 1: a matter of when with Gosa. But you're right, for sure,
- 8:04Speaker 1: goaltenders is taking a bit longer, all right, George, go ahead?
- 8:07Speaker 5: Well, yeah, congratulations Suspenser Night.
- 8:10Speaker 3: I mean, you know, gosh, forty one saves Monday Night
- 8:14Speaker 3: five to one victory over the La Kings. I mean,
- 8:18Speaker 3: that's nothing to sneeze at. You could obviously Chicago was
- 8:22Speaker 3: trying to build towards that future they have been trying
- 8:25Speaker 3: to build for years now. But to me, this was
- 8:28Speaker 3: a smart move. Goaltending is always a question mark unless
- 8:33Speaker 3: you have a real good one.
- 8:34Speaker 5: As we know.
- 8:36Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I'm high on this guy Night, I
- 8:39Speaker 3: really am. And I think Chicago made a shrewd pick. Yes,
- 8:42Speaker 3: they had to give up a good defenseman as Seth Jones,
- 8:44Speaker 3: but you know, this kid's got a good future. Like
- 8:48Speaker 3: Mike was saying in the Blackhawks obviously want to try
- 8:52Speaker 3: to get back to where they belong, just like the
- 8:54Speaker 3: Right Wings, you know, as a premier Original six team.
- 8:58Speaker 5: But I think that, yeah, I think that This is
- 9:00Speaker 5: a good move.
- 9:01Speaker 3: And obviously what Mike said about the window there for
- 9:06Speaker 3: Florida Panthers, obviously that's why they made that trade as
- 9:10Speaker 3: they try to button things up defensively and shoot for
- 9:13Speaker 3: another Stanley Cup Finals. So a good move by Chicago,
- 9:17Speaker 3: and I wish Spencer all the luck and success. I mean,
- 9:20Speaker 3: he's a good kid. He's like you said, he's been
- 9:22Speaker 3: around for a few years. He had a few issues,
- 9:25Speaker 3: but all in all, I think it's a good move.
- 9:27Speaker 1: Scott for the Blackhawks had some closing thoughts.
- 9:33Speaker 2: I like Spencer. He's a good goalie and what he
- 9:36Speaker 2: did Monday night was phenomenal against He Look, any any
- 9:40Speaker 2: any NHL team is is good. Do you put them
- 9:43Speaker 2: on the ice, you put them together, and forty one
- 9:45Speaker 2: seas better if they if they have like ten points
- 9:48Speaker 2: or twenty points or whatever, they're an AHL team. But oh,
- 9:52Speaker 2: NHL teams are fast and quick and they know how
- 9:54Speaker 2: to shoot the puck. Eighty ninety miles priority. If he
- 9:57Speaker 2: scored save forty one seeds, that's so Spencer late. He
- 10:02Speaker 2: learned from his mistakes when he was younger, so he
- 10:05Speaker 2: should be a good goalie. So I'm proud of Spencer Leet.
- 10:08Speaker 2: So that's what teak let's.
- 10:10Speaker 1: Stay, let's do I'm sorry, we'll go ahead.
- 10:14Speaker 4: One of the thing to add to that, I mean,
- 10:17Speaker 4: he's a young guy. It's all in the future for him,
- 10:19Speaker 4: just like the Hawks. It's not a it's not a
- 10:23Speaker 4: he has to do it now. But with that team
- 10:27Speaker 4: that that team that's rebuilding, I mean, he's gonna have
- 10:31Speaker 4: to have a lot of forty one saved nights and
- 10:34Speaker 4: that's what's going to have to happen for in the
- 10:36Speaker 4: next couple of years for them to be competitive. But
- 10:40Speaker 4: you know, in the long run, he'll be He'll be great.
- 10:44Speaker 1: Okay, let's stay with the Panthers paying for a moment.
- 10:47Speaker 1: As we're talking about their Stanley Cup window, they used
- 10:50Speaker 1: a loophole get that, albeit the sketchy way, to try
- 10:54Speaker 1: to repeat the Stanley Cuff champs. They put Matthew could
- 10:57Speaker 1: Chuck on long term injured reserve just five days before
- 11:01Speaker 1: the NHL tradeline. By rule, to Chuck must be out
- 11:05Speaker 1: at least ten games or twenty four days, but in
- 11:07Speaker 1: the interim, his eight million dollars and salary comes off
- 11:12Speaker 1: the books. The NHL salary cap does not apply to
- 11:16Speaker 1: the playoffs. So if Ka Chuck misses the rest of
- 11:18Speaker 1: the season, Florida could acquire players worth up to eight
- 11:21Speaker 1: point seven million dollars in salary at the trade deadline,
- 11:25Speaker 1: and still they could Chuck back to the playoff roster.
- 11:28Speaker 1: Speaking of which, Bill Zeito took advantage of that loophole
- 11:33Speaker 1: and managed to acquire goaltender V tech Vandchick from San
- 11:38Speaker 1: Jose For Patrick Giles, I'd say he's a rental of
- 11:41Speaker 1: three point four million dollars because he's unrestricted free agent. Well, I, Mike,
- 11:46Speaker 1: you talk about a segue and what you just said,
- 11:48Speaker 1: you can take it from there.
- 11:50Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, this is something that was exposed
- 11:54Speaker 4: a few years back by Tampa Bay Lightning. Ended up
- 11:59Speaker 4: they won the UP that year, and then of course
- 12:01Speaker 4: the Vegas Golden Knights take advantage of It's it's within
- 12:05Speaker 4: the rules. It's part of the collective buyer agreement. But
- 12:09Speaker 4: there's there's two things that have to happen here. You
- 12:12Speaker 4: can create all the salary cap space you want. A
- 12:18Speaker 4: player like a Chuck while he's on long term injury
- 12:21Speaker 4: is still going to get paid, So that being your
- 12:24Speaker 4: owner has got to be willing to be paying more money.
- 12:27Speaker 4: So they created eight million dollars worth of space, but
- 12:30Speaker 4: they didn't get rid of eight million dollars worth of payroll.
- 12:33Speaker 4: So that means Vinnie Viola, the owner of the Panthers,
- 12:36Speaker 4: has got to be willing to you know, to spend
- 12:39Speaker 4: extra money. And you know, again they're in the window
- 12:41Speaker 4: to win. I would guess he's probably, you know, not
- 12:46Speaker 4: happy to do that, but willing to do that to
- 12:49Speaker 4: give another chance to win and make some more money
- 12:51Speaker 4: for the organization. But that's that's the first thing that's
- 12:54Speaker 4: got to happen. The second thing that has to happen
- 12:57Speaker 4: is somebody's got to get hurt bad enough to be
- 12:59Speaker 4: on long term injury. And that's real downer here. I mean,
- 13:02Speaker 4: you can do anything you want with that eight million
- 13:04Speaker 4: dollars space, but they're going to miss kuld Chuck and
- 13:07Speaker 4: they're going to miss in big time. And he's a
- 13:10Speaker 4: leader for that team. I mean, he really stirs the pot,
- 13:13Speaker 4: and especially in the playoffs. I mean, he is the
- 13:17Speaker 4: reason when he came over in the Uberdeau trade a
- 13:19Speaker 4: couple of years ago, they got to the finals the
- 13:21Speaker 4: first year and I think that you know, that momentum
- 13:25Speaker 4: carried them over into last year. I mean you just
- 13:27Speaker 4: see how he raises his level of play in the playoffs.
- 13:32Speaker 4: So yeah, it's great to have the space and be
- 13:34Speaker 4: able to use this rule to bring in some money.
- 13:37Speaker 4: But how do you replace Kudchuck in the middle. That's tough.
- 13:41Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an unfortunate injury that took place around the
- 13:44Speaker 1: Four Nations face for sure, But you know, Kachuck plays
- 13:47Speaker 1: at a high level, so being the United States kid,
- 13:50Speaker 1: I understand it. Nevertheless, they take advantage of the money,
- 13:53Speaker 1: they get a goaltender in between, they move on from
- 13:55Speaker 1: Spencer night. I think that situation is an absolute win
- 13:58Speaker 1: win situation for both teams.
- 14:00Speaker 3: George, Well, yeah, it's unfortunate for to Chuck. I mean,
- 14:04Speaker 3: twenty seven years old, and like Mike said, he's he's
- 14:07Speaker 3: one of the heart and soul guys on that Florida
- 14:09Speaker 3: Panthers roster. And this is all the things that you
- 14:14Speaker 3: don't ever want to see happen, whether it was an
- 14:17Speaker 3: All Star game or in this case, more important than that,
- 14:20Speaker 3: the poor Nations and somebody getting hurt.
- 14:24Speaker 5: And in as far.
- 14:25Speaker 3: As the loophole goals, I think you coveted with well,
- 14:29Speaker 3: you know, Mike about the about the loophole that's been
- 14:32Speaker 3: used or used by several teams, not just Florida. But
- 14:36Speaker 3: I'll tell you what to Chuck is a great guy,
- 14:38Speaker 3: he really is. I mean, right now he's second on
- 14:41Speaker 3: the team, I believe, with fifty seven points, and they
- 14:44Speaker 3: are going to miss him. I mean, it's a situation
- 14:46Speaker 3: where it's very difficult to plug somebody in there and expect.
- 14:50Speaker 3: You can't expect those same numbers from who you acquire,
- 14:54Speaker 3: I mean, unless you make it some unusual deal. But
- 14:58Speaker 3: but you know you're a Stanley Cup champion, and this
- 15:02Speaker 3: has been said so many times before.
- 15:04Speaker 5: You know who's ready to play. We got to just
- 15:06Speaker 5: play the game. It happens all the time.
- 15:08Speaker 3: Injuries and uh tough for the Panthers, but I think
- 15:12Speaker 3: they got enough firepower to go for it again. Obviously,
- 15:14Speaker 3: like I said earlier for uh making it to the
- 15:17Speaker 3: finals again.
- 15:19Speaker 1: Well the Panthers just so, you don't have five million,
- 15:21Speaker 1: three hundred five five point three million rather in deadline
- 15:26Speaker 1: camp space. So with tomorrow's head trade deadline looming at
- 15:29Speaker 1: around three o'clock, I'll be surprised to see him make
- 15:32Speaker 1: another move or two.
- 15:33Speaker 2: Yeah, when you lose a big key player like that,
- 15:37Speaker 2: it's the next man up. But you just got to
- 15:40Speaker 2: go and hopefully injury. You don't want to injure yourself
- 15:43Speaker 2: even worse and to be a career ending injury. So
- 15:46Speaker 2: hopefully he has a speed recovery and he comes back
- 15:49Speaker 2: next season and then they can repeat what they did
- 15:52Speaker 2: when he was in.
- 15:53Speaker 4: So yeah, it's also this rule to work out well
- 15:58Speaker 4: for you if the player comes back. I don't know
- 16:02Speaker 4: exactly the extent of his injury, but what I hear
- 16:06Speaker 4: is good. Oh I hear it's you know, I hear
- 16:10Speaker 4: its hamstring. I mean, I've had that injury in the
- 16:14Speaker 4: past as a hockey players. It's not an easy injury
- 16:18Speaker 4: to jump back once with.
- 16:21Speaker 1: So you know.
- 16:22Speaker 4: They'll they'll, you know, they'll give them the treatment and
- 16:24Speaker 4: the rest he needs, but it's still going to be
- 16:26Speaker 4: tough to get in there, and especially after time off,
- 16:30Speaker 4: which could be as much as you know what six
- 16:32Speaker 4: or seven weeks before playoffs. If he is writing in
- 16:35Speaker 4: the playoffs, to jump right back in there with the
- 16:38Speaker 4: speed of the playoffs and and you know how teams play,
- 16:41Speaker 4: that's going to be difficult as well. So we also
- 16:46Speaker 4: talked last week and we touched on it here be
- 16:49Speaker 4: the you know, the Four Nations tournament. Everybody really got
- 16:52Speaker 4: all real excited about this tournament, and rightfully so. It
- 16:57Speaker 4: was definitely better than an All Star game. Certainly, uh,
- 17:03Speaker 4: it certainly shows better than what the NBA put out
- 17:05Speaker 4: there for an All Star Game this year in particular.
- 17:09Speaker 4: But this is the downside of it. This is the
- 17:11Speaker 4: downside of it. And you know, people love that hockey
- 17:16Speaker 4: and it was great. But if you're if you're Paul
- 17:19Speaker 4: Maurice right now, or you're Bill Zito, or even players
- 17:22Speaker 4: in the Panthers, you're kind of wondering was it worth it?
- 17:25Speaker 4: You know when I was, when I was on a
- 17:28Speaker 4: beach in Cancun for an eight days getting some R
- 17:31Speaker 4: and R and my you know, one of my leaders
- 17:33Speaker 4: who's out there and got hurt. Now I don't have
- 17:35Speaker 4: them to help me try to go after another stand
- 17:36Speaker 4: the cup.
- 17:38Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's no question about it that the
- 17:41Speaker 1: Panthers really cook a hit here. And I can tell
- 17:44Speaker 1: you one thing in the hamstring injury, I don't care
- 17:45Speaker 1: what sport is much less effect, that hockey is way
- 17:48Speaker 1: more physical than any of them, is a tough injury
- 17:50Speaker 1: to cover. From my say, the least, I've been banged
- 17:53Speaker 1: up my whole life, Mike, I've had them too, and
- 17:55Speaker 1: they stink. So I can only imagine what mister Chuck
- 17:59Speaker 1: is doing with on a long term basis to deal
- 18:02Speaker 1: with it. But he do viol or do what they
- 18:06Speaker 1: have to do to try to win, and as you
- 18:08Speaker 1: alluded to, Mike, they have a limited window. Hasn't anything
- 18:10Speaker 1: else you want to add before we wrap up the topic.
- 18:13Speaker 2: I played hockey and I had a mild, very mild
- 18:18Speaker 2: hamstrm and that killed and so I just I can
- 18:21Speaker 2: just imagine what he's going through if he just pulled
- 18:23Speaker 2: it or something. But if he comes back into playoffs,
- 18:26Speaker 2: he's not going to get in the same not the
- 18:28Speaker 2: same speed. But if he's in there, hopefully he gets
- 18:31Speaker 2: be a leader. But if he's not in it, hopefully
- 18:33Speaker 2: he's on the bench and be a leader on the team.
- 18:36Speaker 1: Great point, all right, it's part of the show where
- 18:39Speaker 1: Mike Santos gets the floor. Give us some please, Mike,
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- 19:51Speaker 4: We'll be shooting our pilot this end of this month
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- 20:01Speaker 4: eight to ten episodes of season, and it will feature
- 20:04Speaker 4: people who work in the world of sports around the country,
- 20:08Speaker 4: whether that's professional sports, college sports, high school sports. We
- 20:12Speaker 4: don't deal with players or coaches, but really the people
- 20:15Speaker 4: behind the scenes. Whether they're in marketing or sales or
- 20:19Speaker 4: concessions or whatever they happen to do, they're always a
- 20:22Speaker 4: big part of making sure an organization successful. We're going
- 20:25Speaker 4: to be traveling the country in viewing those people and
- 20:29Speaker 4: letting them tell you what they did to get in
- 20:32Speaker 4: the sports business, and hopefully that'll be helpful for a
- 20:35Speaker 4: lot of young people that are looking to get into
- 20:36Speaker 4: the industry. Those are our two big projects right now.
- 20:42Speaker 1: Stay tuned and every weekend in the Sports Exchange, Mike
- 20:47Speaker 1: Santos will have new updates. I'm sure he'll dig one
- 20:49Speaker 1: out every week, right Mike, so that they can prove it.
- 20:53Speaker 1: So I want to make sure Mike has this opportunity
- 20:55Speaker 1: to not only provide our sponsor hockey operations. Not only
- 21:00Speaker 1: it's not just a sponsorship to mention hockey operations. Mike,
- 21:03Speaker 1: We're looking to get some information about this weekend and
- 21:06Speaker 1: week out, and that'll be your solo segment week in
- 21:08Speaker 1: and week out here on the Sports Exchange.
- 21:10Speaker 2: Has a quick question for you, Mike, As you said,
- 21:13Speaker 2: going to the country, you're going up the east coast,
- 21:15Speaker 2: west coast, or where you're headed.
- 21:18Speaker 4: We're going to go throughout the country, We're actually going
- 21:21Speaker 4: to be interviewing college athletic director out at Los Angeles area.
- 21:27Speaker 4: We're gonna even we're even interviewing an NHL mascot. We've
- 21:33Speaker 4: got one guy who's the chief revenue officer for an
- 21:38Speaker 4: NBA team. Okay, We're talking to some people that work
- 21:42Speaker 4: in compliance and college athletics. We've got a trainer for
- 21:46Speaker 4: an NFL team, not a trainer, but a equipment manager.
- 21:50Speaker 4: So we're gonna be talking to all sorts of people
- 21:52Speaker 4: throughout the country, all in the United States who do
- 21:57Speaker 4: different things in the sports world.
- 22:01Speaker 2: I was just asking that.
- 22:02Speaker 1: So after Mike and I get together over a black
- 22:06Speaker 1: Rock barn grilling for lauder Till, Mike will be feed.
- 22:10Speaker 1: We will have him on the South Florid of tribute
- 22:11Speaker 1: page and he'll have his hockey operations as well as
- 22:14Speaker 1: his professional hockey background as well, and we'll make sure
- 22:17Speaker 1: there's a link that will be provided. We'll work on
- 22:19Speaker 1: that once Mike and I get our photo together. It's
- 22:22Speaker 1: only been a while. Another thing I can promise about
- 22:24Speaker 1: the photo Mike is there won't be any facial here
- 22:26Speaker 1: on it. Other than that. That's about that. But we
- 22:28Speaker 1: have a date set up over the black Rock TVD.
- 22:31Speaker 1: We'll get it done. And once we get that, taking
- 22:33Speaker 1: care of Mike and without a doubt, okay, then we'll
- 22:37Speaker 1: be able to put you up on the website, my friend.
- 22:39Speaker 1: All right, and I have a few other perks involved
- 22:41Speaker 1: as well.
- 22:42Speaker 5: All right.
- 22:42Speaker 1: Well that said, let's transition over to a station break. Candy,
- 22:45Speaker 1: a blank take off, and I should point out the
- 22:47Speaker 1: top of the hour fire up will be on with Candy,
- 22:49Speaker 1: I Blaine, George Dycorn, j D Wyatt, Ralph Williams. We
- 22:53Speaker 1: call it the country Club Pasman's on Hockey Tonight night
- 22:58Speaker 1: Change Jones Tree. It was a win for both teams,
- 23:01Speaker 1: no question about that. We alluded to it earlier. Thanks
- 23:03Speaker 1: for reinforcing that, Jashua ver much appreciate it, and just
- 23:06Speaker 1: say hello to Mike Santo's Joshua Door is a big
- 23:08Speaker 1: friend of the show. Okay, go ahead, Candy, there's your update.
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- 24:24Speaker 1: Thank you Candy. We don't get an opportunity to talk
- 24:27Speaker 1: about Notre Dame hockey much. I know that George likes
- 24:29Speaker 1: Notre Dame and they're dear to us our but we're
- 24:32Speaker 1: going to have an opportunity to win this with this
- 24:34Speaker 1: Notre Dame hockey coach Jeff Jackson, his coach in his
- 24:37Speaker 1: final game, great twenty year run in South Bend, twelve
- 24:40Speaker 1: NCAA tournament's four Frozen four appearances, eight conference championships, winning coach,
- 24:46Speaker 1: who's the winningest coach in Notre Dame history four seventeen.
- 24:49Speaker 1: Just so you know that the Frozen four is the
- 24:51Speaker 1: equivalent to the Final Four in basketball. Mike, some thoughts
- 24:55Speaker 1: about Jeff Jackson at Notre Dame.
- 24:58Speaker 4: Well, you said it all. He's had a great twenty
- 25:01Speaker 4: year career there, never really had a chance to never
- 25:04Speaker 4: really got over the top and won the NCAA title,
- 25:07Speaker 4: actually lost to my BC Eagles one year. Uh, Frozen four.
- 25:12Speaker 4: But a lot of that PEO people don't realize that
- 25:16Speaker 4: Jeff Jackson was actually the initial coach for the US
- 25:20Speaker 4: national development team program, which started in Arbor, Michigan and
- 25:26Speaker 4: since moved to Plymouth, Michigan. But he's, uh, he's one
- 25:29Speaker 4: of the guys that developed a lot of those players
- 25:32Speaker 4: through the years. You know, from Rick Dpa Trow, you know,
- 25:37Speaker 4: all the way through to Ryan Whitney and now you
- 25:40Speaker 4: know the program. You see the players like the Kachuk
- 25:42Speaker 4: brothers that it develops. Now Patrick Kine played in that program,
- 25:46Speaker 4: but he was one of the He was one of
- 25:47Speaker 4: the founders of that US national development team program, which
- 25:51Speaker 4: which has led to success for the US, particularly in
- 25:55Speaker 4: the World Junior Tournament, but also in the Olympic Games
- 25:59Speaker 4: and all you know, and in the World Championships. So
- 26:03Speaker 4: kudos to him for everything he's done, not just to
- 26:06Speaker 4: Notre Dame, but throughout his career. He's been a great
- 26:08Speaker 4: coach and a good man for hockey.
- 26:10Speaker 1: Great So glad we had a chance to bring him
- 26:12Speaker 1: up on this show. Don't get a chance to talk
- 26:14Speaker 1: college hockey boy and him an icon like this guy
- 26:17Speaker 1: who's been with his career. We have no choice but
- 26:20Speaker 1: to make sure that we bring him up here on
- 26:22Speaker 1: fortune stage. We talk about hockey on Thursday, and this
- 26:25Speaker 1: is a type of information that Mike and I and
- 26:27Speaker 1: George are here to provide. We want to make sure
- 26:30Speaker 1: we get hockey on the Frozen Pond an all singles angles,
- 26:33Speaker 1: all right. George talks about mister Jackson.
- 26:37Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a chance to interview him many many
- 26:40Speaker 3: years ago, we have a tournament in Detroit. As you
- 26:43Speaker 3: probably might remember, Mike, when the league was called c
- 26:47Speaker 3: c H Central Collegiate Hockey Association. So they invited the
- 26:52Speaker 3: coaches to come to a media lunch and and it
- 26:55Speaker 3: was held at Joe Lois Arena in their dining room.
- 26:59Speaker 3: But anyway, Jeff was always very well spoken. He was
- 27:03Speaker 3: one of the highlights for me to hear as all
- 27:06Speaker 3: the coaches had time to speak, and you got some
- 27:08Speaker 3: great coaches up there, you know Red Berenson for University
- 27:11Speaker 3: of Michigan, Michigan State, and you know Calmly and so
- 27:15Speaker 3: many great coaches in that college hockey arena. Lack of
- 27:20Speaker 3: a better term, but it was just a great privilege
- 27:23Speaker 3: for Detroit to host that event. That of course was
- 27:26Speaker 3: predating the realignment and the Big Ten getting into hockey themselves.
- 27:32Speaker 3: But yeah, Jeff has been a great mentor been a
- 27:35Speaker 3: great coach to have. Notre Dame is very lucky to
- 27:38Speaker 3: have him. I mean, I know football is number one,
- 27:41Speaker 3: but I think hockey might be number two. I mean,
- 27:44Speaker 3: their basketball team has not been good for years, Notre
- 27:46Speaker 3: Dames the men's team, so I would put hockey number
- 27:49Speaker 3: two up as far as success rate and getting kids
- 27:54Speaker 3: to come and play at Notre Dame. But again, this
- 27:58Speaker 3: guy's a legend. I mean, you know, he's to me,
- 28:00Speaker 3: he's a Hall of Fame coach. And hopefully one day
- 28:03Speaker 3: Jeff for get that call to get into the Hockey
- 28:06Speaker 3: Hall of Fame or the US Hockey Hall of Fame.
- 28:08Speaker 3: There is also so no, I'm glad you brought him up.
- 28:12Speaker 3: Though it's got a good topic for today. He deserves
- 28:14Speaker 3: the kudos, now, I don't.
- 28:19Speaker 1: George.
- 28:20Speaker 4: George makes some great points about Jeff. When I was
- 28:26Speaker 4: a young guy high school player, I actually was being
- 28:32Speaker 4: recruited by Notre Dame and I took a trip out
- 28:35Speaker 4: there and at the time, they played in this little
- 28:38Speaker 4: area which looked like the tennis courts were, you know,
- 28:42Speaker 4: that were adjacent to where the basketball team played. And
- 28:46Speaker 4: it's probably, you know, has a lot to do with
- 28:50Speaker 4: Jeff's success there that they were able to get the
- 28:53Speaker 4: beautiful new arena that they have now that they play in. So,
- 28:56Speaker 4: I mean, he had a lot to He had a
- 28:58Speaker 4: lot to do with them getting that facility I have
- 29:01Speaker 4: on campus, and with a facility like that, and and
- 29:04Speaker 4: the mystique and Notre Dame, just the school and never
- 29:07Speaker 4: mind the athletic program. I mean, he's really set them
- 29:10Speaker 4: up to be successful in hockey for a long time
- 29:13Speaker 4: to come. So I agree with you, George. For me,
- 29:16Speaker 4: they're the number two program on campus right now. No
- 29:19Speaker 4: no offense to the you know, to Digger Phelps right.
- 29:25Speaker 3: By the way, we can't and one other things. We
- 29:27Speaker 3: can't forget about the women's Notre Dame team. They do
- 29:31Speaker 3: a great job at basketball. So I didn't mean to
- 29:33Speaker 3: neglect the ladies because they're always in the top ten.
- 29:37Speaker 5: Yeah hopes, Well.
- 29:38Speaker 1: You better not neglected. You ain't get the women because
- 29:42Speaker 1: first of all, Katie and I are going to be
- 29:45Speaker 1: going to the women's Final four in Tampa in about
- 29:47Speaker 1: four weeks. And by the way, Joshua was excited about
- 29:50Speaker 1: the new camp that Mike they're going to see it
- 29:52Speaker 1: a few weeks called really seriously really, so he's getting one.
- 29:55Speaker 1: It was his idea in the first place. So I said,
- 29:57Speaker 1: you know what, I got to go out there get
- 30:00Speaker 1: this guy. He gave me the idea, So I went
- 30:02Speaker 1: to mister door here to give him one. So I
- 30:05Speaker 1: know Pens are not too familiar with this one. So
- 30:07Speaker 1: he depends. Mean is what we call him absorbed one
- 30:10Speaker 1: on one mode on this He's learning a lot about hockey.
- 30:13Speaker 1: He's doing a pretty good job doing it right, depends,
- 30:15Speaker 1: And they'll be busy tonight on Fire Up the Country
- 30:17Speaker 1: Club with Candy Ralph J. J. Wyatt.
- 30:20Speaker 2: Yeah. The only reason I the only reascide to the
- 30:23Speaker 2: first because I don't know much about college college hockey.
- 30:25Speaker 2: Ye okay, I used to about HL NHL. That's all.
- 30:29Speaker 1: No, that's okay, it doesn't matter. But just a hockey show.
- 30:32Speaker 1: We give it all to you, and I have this
- 30:34Speaker 1: foundation of knowledge from putting it out there right like seriously, really.
- 30:39Speaker 2: I'm just sitting here absorbing the knowledge I got.
- 30:42Speaker 4: I got something though, I've got to tell you, especially
- 30:47Speaker 4: since I'm not affiliated with Anyboddy anymore. I am pulling
- 30:51Speaker 4: for the Wilkesbury scrant And Penguins to somehow find a
- 30:54Speaker 4: way to win the Calder Cup this year.
- 30:57Speaker 5: WHOA, there you go.
- 31:01Speaker 4: My good close friend Jeff Barrett, who started that organization,
- 31:05Speaker 4: has been the presidents of the organization since the very
- 31:08Speaker 4: beginning and did a fantastic job there. This is his
- 31:11Speaker 4: final season, so I'm hoping somehow they can find a way,
- 31:15Speaker 4: probably to get by those Hershey Bears and find that
- 31:19Speaker 4: they call the Cup Championship.
- 31:21Speaker 2: We need one badly.
- 31:24Speaker 5: Yeah, so another coach hiring Yeah hers Bears?
- 31:30Speaker 1: Is that a bucket list play? So they have all
- 31:32Speaker 1: that chocolate out in Hershey like that?
- 31:33Speaker 4: Like I said on the grounds, right, that's not a
- 31:37Speaker 4: bad place to go.
- 31:40Speaker 1: Yeah, that doesn't do one for one diabetes, but I
- 31:43Speaker 1: can deal with it. By the way you score Joshua Door,
- 31:46Speaker 1: but the Panthers beating the Jackets and music to the
- 31:48Speaker 1: Red Wings rs if indeed the last update was two
- 31:51Speaker 1: to nothing, So Red Wings fans will encourage you to
- 31:54Speaker 1: give us updates so that we could convey that to them. Yeah,
- 31:57Speaker 1: I hear that diabetes is not the play for Hershey Bears.
- 32:00Speaker 1: But then again, so what you only live once?
- 32:02Speaker 5: So be it.
- 32:04Speaker 1: I had you brought that interesting up only just Scratton
- 32:07Speaker 1: gets mentioned by you, mister Santel God bless great stuff.
- 32:10Speaker 1: Can't wait to take it out to a bike all right.
- 32:13Speaker 1: One topic that Penman can't get involved with, and anybody
- 32:16Speaker 1: can get involved with this one is the most block
- 32:19Speaker 1: shots in NHL history goes to Mark and Wardo. Blast
- 32:23Speaker 1: of the San Jose Sharks of two and sixty six
- 32:26Speaker 1: passing Mark Giordano. That to me is a stat that
- 32:30Speaker 1: is a very painful one, isn't it, Mike, Yeah, painful.
- 32:34Speaker 1: But I also have to say that it's.
- 32:37Speaker 4: Really only been since nineteen ninety four that they keeping
- 32:41Speaker 4: these types of stats, when they went to the real
- 32:44Speaker 4: time scoring system ninety four, that's when they started keeping
- 32:48Speaker 4: these types of stats. I have a feeling there's some
- 32:50Speaker 4: guys back in the day that took some that took
- 32:53Speaker 4: some real hummers, you know, some of them even to
- 32:56Speaker 4: unprotected faces and in areas today don't have to deal with.
- 33:01Speaker 4: So I mean kudos to Blastic for sure. I mean,
- 33:05Speaker 4: it's no joke get hit by those one hundred miles
- 33:09Speaker 4: per hour shots coming from the point. I think it
- 33:12Speaker 4: also speaks to the way that the games played defensively now,
- 33:16Speaker 4: where most teams just pack it in in front of
- 33:18Speaker 4: their net and and almost form a wall, particularly in
- 33:21Speaker 4: the playoffs, in front of those goaltenders. But but yeah,
- 33:25Speaker 4: I think the guys like Craig Ludwig back in the
- 33:28Speaker 4: day with the shin pads that were as big as
- 33:31Speaker 4: goalie pads that they used to wear, and and you
- 33:34Speaker 4: know there were some guys back in the day that
- 33:36Speaker 4: probably blocked a lot. I don't know if it was
- 33:38Speaker 4: this many, but they got in the way of the
- 33:40Speaker 4: rubber too.
- 33:41Speaker 1: Well, Mike, let's go it this way. This may be
- 33:44Speaker 1: a new stand in the NHL, but you go to
- 33:45Speaker 1: Major League Baseball you can only imagine how many stats
- 33:49Speaker 1: that they've created. We don't have enough time, if we're
- 33:50Speaker 1: going to get you out on time to get into
- 33:52Speaker 1: those numbers. But there's no doubt that if I get
- 33:55Speaker 1: that real opportunity to go out there and come up
- 33:58Speaker 1: with an off the wall stat like this, this is
- 34:01Speaker 1: the show to do it. So for the first time
- 34:03Speaker 1: and probably the last time I'll ever say it, most
- 34:06Speaker 1: block shots in NHL history. Drop this date down, people,
- 34:09Speaker 1: three six, twenty five. I don't know what I'm gonna
- 34:12Speaker 1: say it again. So George, at least you don't have
- 34:15Speaker 1: to get in front of the pucks. All you have
- 34:16Speaker 1: to do is deal with me.
- 34:19Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you what, guys, this is an unbelievable stat.
- 34:22Speaker 5: And again, Mike, thanks for providing a little bit of
- 34:24Speaker 5: the history. Because we all know, we all know guys.
- 34:27Speaker 3: Like Gordie how and Bobby bod and Carol Brewer and
- 34:31Speaker 3: all these old defensemen and Bobby Orr. I mean, this
- 34:34Speaker 3: has always been one of the toughest things to not
- 34:40Speaker 3: to watch necessarily, but you're on your edge of your
- 34:43Speaker 3: seat because you don't want to lose one of your players.
- 34:46Speaker 3: I mean, but they've got to go down to block
- 34:47Speaker 3: these shots, as we know, that's part of the game.
- 34:50Speaker 3: You know, you can't let everything go through to the goaltender,
- 34:52Speaker 3: of course not. And this blastic and this is unbelievable.
- 34:55Speaker 3: They said he had one hundred, one hundred, over one
- 34:59Speaker 3: hundred blocks shots in a season twelve times and it
- 35:03Speaker 3: just an incredible statistic.
- 35:05Speaker 5: And it takes a lot of guts.
- 35:07Speaker 3: And I agree what you said that you know, the
- 35:10Speaker 3: equipment's different now, I mean it's you know, the padding
- 35:14Speaker 3: is better and this sort of thing. But still you
- 35:17Speaker 3: cringe if you see one of your players just limping
- 35:19Speaker 3: off the ice back to the bench. But it's you know,
- 35:22Speaker 3: it's part of the game and it and obviously it
- 35:25Speaker 3: tries to help your team score victory. So I can't
- 35:28Speaker 3: talk to this guy, you know, blastic. I'm I ture
- 35:31Speaker 3: all native.
- 35:33Speaker 4: I tell you a funny story when I was with
- 35:35Speaker 4: the Islanders. We had a young goalie and that against
- 35:39Speaker 4: Saint Louis one night. Eric Fieshow and big Alan mckinnis
- 35:44Speaker 4: was on the blue line for the oh yeah, and
- 35:47Speaker 4: every time that stick went up in the air. Our
- 35:49Speaker 4: guys part of like the Red Sea. And Eric Fieshow
- 35:52Speaker 4: was seeing those things. There's nobody, nobody get in front
- 35:55Speaker 4: of his shot.
- 35:56Speaker 5: I'll tell you that. Wow, what a story.
- 35:59Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, penman.
- 36:02Speaker 2: When I played hockey, I dove and I reached out
- 36:05Speaker 2: one time and I caught the puck man that when
- 36:08Speaker 2: I when I went back to the thing, when I
- 36:10Speaker 2: took a glow of out it was black and blue.
- 36:12Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not making money. I'm only doing
- 36:15Speaker 2: this for fun. But that that's stings. Scott Stevens back
- 36:19Speaker 2: in the day, if you remember Boke, he took a
- 36:21Speaker 2: lot of block shots too, and one hundred and one.
- 36:25Speaker 2: I can't imagine taking one hundred and one twelve times
- 36:28Speaker 2: and one year. That's just crazy.
- 36:31Speaker 4: And you know what there look, there is somewhat of
- 36:34Speaker 4: a skill to blocking shots. I mean there's a way
- 36:38Speaker 4: to do it, and there's a wrong way to do it.
- 36:40Speaker 4: And it's the wrong way. You can get hurt.
- 36:43Speaker 2: I think I did the wrong way that one time.
- 36:47Speaker 5: Your hand.
- 36:48Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let me tell you some Listening to you
- 36:52Speaker 1: guys talk about block shots, they wouldn't have enough tile
- 36:55Speaker 1: and all to save me for anything. So I hate
- 36:57Speaker 1: to say this on a family show. I had to
- 36:59Speaker 1: go to Cannon this route, and I don't even know
- 37:00Speaker 1: if that would work, so a lot of words we go.
- 37:04Speaker 2: Well.
- 37:04Speaker 1: Georgia and I always talked about how well the Red
- 37:06Speaker 1: Wings draw on national television. For that stadium series game
- 37:09Speaker 1: last Saturday night, they definitely drew well. Again. The Red
- 37:13Speaker 1: Wings Jackets is the most watched stadium series game on
- 37:17Speaker 1: US table with one point six million people. Mike, were
- 37:20Speaker 1: you surprised, Let's face at the Red Wings in prime
- 37:22Speaker 1: time at Ohio Stadium to get me better? One point
- 37:26Speaker 1: six million for a I don't know, Michigan, Ohio State, Columbus.
- 37:32Speaker 1: It's right, one point not a bad night. It was great.
- 37:37Speaker 4: You know. As we've talked about before, I really wish
- 37:40Speaker 4: the NHL would start to limit these games. I think
- 37:43Speaker 4: they're they're really ruining the novelty of it, you know.
- 37:48Speaker 4: I'd like to see them go back to just the
- 37:51Speaker 4: one New Year's Day game every year and really special.
- 37:55Speaker 4: They really owned that day once they started this thing.
- 37:58Speaker 4: But now you know, the viewership's great. I get it,
- 38:02Speaker 4: but I'd love to see that same game on New
- 38:06Speaker 4: Year's Day instead of it being one of you know,
- 38:08Speaker 4: five or six they're going to play all year or
- 38:11Speaker 4: I think somebody had made that point a week or
- 38:13Speaker 4: so ago on the show that maybe they should just
- 38:16Speaker 4: do one in Canada and one in the US every year.
- 38:19Speaker 1: Yeah, last week we had an incredible crew for Mike's debut.
- 38:22Speaker 1: We had Trent Clark and Steve Ballisteria. Why don't you
- 38:25Speaker 1: talk about a heavyweight crew that we had right Mike
- 38:28Speaker 1: for your coming out party and you and I, Trent,
- 38:32Speaker 1: I think was on there, Mark Well, Mark may Day, Trent,
- 38:36Speaker 1: Steve Balister, you and I.
- 38:37Speaker 5: And that was a great crew.
- 38:38Speaker 1: And these guys are a really big part of our network.
- 38:40Speaker 1: So George, you're not surprised that that Jesus, many people
- 38:43Speaker 1: are a corn not really.
- 38:45Speaker 5: I mean I like the stadium, the outdoor games.
- 38:49Speaker 3: I mean it seems to be a good break for
- 38:50Speaker 3: a lot of the different fans that want to see
- 38:54Speaker 3: games out there.
- 38:55Speaker 5: I never really thought too much about the overkill part
- 38:57Speaker 5: of it.
- 38:58Speaker 3: Mike, maybe, uh, you got a point there, because I
- 39:01Speaker 3: know they've got the Heritage Classic in Canada, not necessarily
- 39:05Speaker 3: every year, but it seems like it is. And then
- 39:07Speaker 3: this outdoor series sponsored by the US Navy or the
- 39:11Speaker 3: Navy cit Credit Union or something. But all in all,
- 39:15Speaker 3: all in all, this was well done. Oh you know,
- 39:18Speaker 3: let's face it. I mean, this was another stroke of genius,
- 39:21Speaker 3: like Scott alluded to. You got Michigan against Ohio State,
- 39:25Speaker 3: you got that rivalry forever in college football, and then
- 39:28Speaker 3: you're here.
- 39:29Speaker 5: You're bringing the red wigs in, You're bringing the jackets in.
- 39:32Speaker 5: I mean, you know this.
- 39:33Speaker 3: Yeah, some could say that, oh well that was more
- 39:35Speaker 3: of a regional like Midwest kind of thing. But no,
- 39:39Speaker 3: the statistics that you just mentioned, Scott, I mean, it
- 39:41Speaker 3: bears it out that they really want to see this
- 39:44Speaker 3: kind of hockey outdoors. Unfortunately for Detroit again, yeah, but that's.
- 39:48Speaker 5: Another story for another day. They've missed an opportunity to win.
- 39:51Speaker 3: But I think Columbus did a really really good job
- 39:54Speaker 3: putting it on and I'm sure that hopefully they'll get
- 39:59Speaker 3: the At some thought, though, Mike, like you said about
- 40:01Speaker 3: overkill and and and oversaturation of the outdoor games.
- 40:05Speaker 5: We'll see what happens. I don't know.
- 40:06Speaker 3: Betman seems to be hell bent on on having these games,
- 40:10Speaker 3: so I don't know. We'll see what happens.
- 40:12Speaker 5: But I like them.
- 40:15Speaker 1: Two words, sum right, the Red Wings original sick like
- 40:18Speaker 1: anything you added to them?
- 40:19Speaker 4: Yeah, well, just next year they're coming Florida Final either. Yeah,
- 40:24Speaker 4: there's two games, yeah, Florida next month, so that would
- 40:28Speaker 4: be interesting in from then. I can tell you one thing,
- 40:30Speaker 4: it's not going to snow that day.
- 40:32Speaker 1: So well, Michael, you playing on going into either of
- 40:36Speaker 1: those two games.
- 40:37Speaker 4: I don't know. We'll see maybe.
- 40:39Speaker 1: Maybe when I maybeybe you and maybe when I could
- 40:42Speaker 1: get a suite out there and one of them, we'll
- 40:43Speaker 1: get to sit back and have a good time. Right
- 40:45Speaker 1: think about it. Who knows how far along we're going
- 40:47Speaker 1: to be into this Thursday, and I think I know
- 40:49Speaker 1: we're gonna Mike and I are committed to it for
- 40:51Speaker 1: a long time. So Mike and I says, especially since
- 40:54Speaker 1: for Browarde County body, we can come up with all.
- 40:56Speaker 4: Kinds of stuff, right Mike, Yeah, sure, Oh no.
- 41:00Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that. Mike Santos and I doing
- 41:03Speaker 1: all kinds of crazy stuff. In Proward County with hockey. Seriously,
- 41:07Speaker 1: really seriously.
- 41:12Speaker 2: Well Ohio State did was phenomenal. They put on a
- 41:14Speaker 2: good The stadium was a good showing. I can't stand
- 41:18Speaker 2: Ohio State football. I'm just pointing that out, just letting
- 41:21Speaker 2: Mike know, but that, but that, but what that, but
- 41:24Speaker 2: what that stadium and that was perfect. I wasn't too
- 41:27Speaker 2: sure how it was going to come in as a
- 41:30Speaker 2: college football into hockey rare. I wasn't sure how that
- 41:33Speaker 2: was going to go, but it turned out to be
- 41:35Speaker 2: all right. And I have one question from Wait, there's
- 41:38Speaker 2: a lot of viewers out there that can't see the puck,
- 41:41Speaker 2: do you? And during the during that game and during
- 41:45Speaker 2: the All Star Game, they have a highlighter on the puck.
- 41:47Speaker 2: Is there any possible way that NHL could possibly do
- 41:51Speaker 2: that moving forward to like regular games.
- 41:54Speaker 4: I think they could, but I I would rather see
- 41:58Speaker 4: them put more emphasis and even money into educating the
- 42:05Speaker 4: broadcast teams, including the cameramen and women, the producers and
- 42:11Speaker 4: the directors, so they understand the game better. I'll give
- 42:15Speaker 4: you something that another example. We all watch baseball and
- 42:22Speaker 4: we all know it right now, Pitchers that throw the
- 42:26Speaker 4: ball one hundred miles per hour and you don't have
- 42:29Speaker 4: any problem following the baseball, do you. And the reason
- 42:33Speaker 4: why is because the people that broadcasts the sport, the
- 42:37Speaker 4: production people, that people, they know that when the pitcher
- 42:40Speaker 4: is throwing that ball, you throwing it to the catcher.
- 42:43Speaker 4: So instead of trying to follow the ball in the
- 42:45Speaker 4: air on the way to the catcher, they put the
- 42:47Speaker 4: camera on the catcher. I think if you educate these
- 42:50Speaker 4: television people more as to the game, they'll understand when
- 42:54Speaker 4: the pucks over the year that the options are this
- 42:56Speaker 4: one and this one, so camera one be ready here
- 42:59Speaker 4: and camera to be ready here, and they'll learn and
- 43:02Speaker 4: they'll understand the game. They'll be able to cut quicker
- 43:05Speaker 4: and I think that'll help. But I think I think
- 43:08Speaker 4: it's more an education not of the fans, but of
- 43:12Speaker 4: the people that are actually broadcasting the games that will
- 43:14Speaker 4: help that in that if you remember back in the
- 43:18Speaker 4: nineties Fox TV the NHL contract, you know when they
- 43:23Speaker 4: were first getting into the sports business, and they put
- 43:28Speaker 4: they put trails on the puck.
- 43:30Speaker 5: Yeah I remember that.
- 43:31Speaker 4: Yeah, it also put you know, the speed that the
- 43:36Speaker 4: puck was moving at as well. The problem with that
- 43:40Speaker 4: is it didn't tell you where the puck was going.
- 43:43Speaker 5: It tells you.
- 43:44Speaker 4: It told you where the puck was. Okay, it didn't
- 43:47Speaker 4: tell you how puck how fast the puck is going.
- 43:50Speaker 4: It tells you how fast the puck went. So everything
- 43:53Speaker 4: that they're doing when they do that, is basically telling
- 43:55Speaker 4: me what already happened. They've got to get to the
- 43:58Speaker 4: point where the sport. I know it's fat asked, but
- 44:00Speaker 4: they've got to get to the point where they understand
- 44:02Speaker 4: it enough that they can sort of, you know, predict
- 44:05Speaker 4: or know where things are going to go, really how
- 44:09Speaker 4: things are going to happen. Because if they can do that,
- 44:11Speaker 4: they're going to do a much better job of teaching
- 44:13Speaker 4: the fan how to watch the game.
- 44:15Speaker 5: That's just.
- 44:17Speaker 1: Depends on That's a great question, Mike. I learned a
- 44:19Speaker 1: lot from you with that. I never even thought about that.
- 44:22Speaker 5: I think its name was the Glow Park. I think
- 44:25Speaker 5: they called the Globe. And don't forget our friend Ted
- 44:29Speaker 5: Lindsay and Tim Ryan.
- 44:31Speaker 3: On NBC with Peter Peter Peter, they tried to teach Americans,
- 44:37Speaker 3: you know, the sport of hockey.
- 44:38Speaker 5: They tried that with Peter Puck on NBC the way back.
- 44:41Speaker 4: In the day Peter puck was before before they lit
- 44:45Speaker 4: pucks up.
- 44:46Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah right right yeah.
- 44:51Speaker 1: Almost the only Georgia or only George and I and
- 44:55Speaker 1: Mike could remember Peter. I'll tell you that's a pretty
- 44:58Speaker 1: good broadcasting. I got you think about what they have
- 45:01Speaker 1: Tim Ryan, Ted Lindsay on that crop that is pretty good.
- 45:05Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 45:07Speaker 1: Howie Meeker, Yeah, how he was on that one. Yeah yeah,
- 45:10Speaker 1: well again, well you'll tell you, I torn you know
- 45:12Speaker 1: how to look the cat out of the bag with
- 45:14Speaker 1: that one. That's a pretty good trivia there. But Peter
- 45:16Speaker 1: pretty good, so good. Great question, FA's been better. Response
- 45:19Speaker 1: to Mike, George, I knew I can count on you
- 45:21Speaker 1: with coming up with that stuff. Great, So have a
- 45:23Speaker 1: good time. But tonight here on the Sports Exchange talking
- 45:26Speaker 1: hockey with Mike Santos, my co host along with Penman
- 45:29Speaker 1: Sports George Icorn, Mark Meydale be on from time to
- 45:32Speaker 1: time as well. Try to keep it real, try to
- 45:34Speaker 1: keep four people on at all times and remain objective
- 45:37Speaker 1: is to give you hockey and the highest detail and
- 45:40Speaker 1: regardless of what level that it is. As we get
- 45:42Speaker 1: ready to wrap up the show depends, will want you
- 45:44Speaker 1: to let everybody know how they can get a hold
- 45:45Speaker 1: of you.
- 45:47Speaker 2: You can find you on Excellent Pensman Sports, and you
- 45:49Speaker 2: can find you on YouTube. I have my own YouTube
- 45:51Speaker 2: channel met seven hundred and fifty five subscribers trying to
- 45:54Speaker 2: hit that thousand market. You can find me on YouTube sports.
- 45:58Speaker 1: Seven fifty fives a good number. That's any Aaron's home
- 46:01Speaker 1: run total in Black Rock Stone. Just in case you
- 46:04Speaker 1: want to know, Mike, that's what you're going to cook
- 46:05Speaker 1: your steak on when you get there talking about saying, hey, listen,
- 46:11Speaker 1: you know number association. I'm not good man. My father
- 46:13Speaker 1: in law right was, but fifty all we got to
- 46:18Speaker 1: get penmant towards that thousand and keep them coming FoST.
- 46:20Speaker 2: Is there any number that you don't have a story on?
- 46:23Speaker 2: Thirty three you have a story, thirty.
- 46:26Speaker 1: Steps, I have them all, but well, I got to
- 46:29Speaker 1: make sure. But I have a heart out with Mike.
- 46:31Speaker 1: I want to let Mike Shelton shows run and a
- 46:33Speaker 1: reason time frame and we are on a dynamite place
- 46:37Speaker 1: pace to make sure everything is taken care of because Mike,
- 46:39Speaker 1: with all due respect, that's the pace I try to
- 46:42Speaker 1: set up anyways, week in and wake out. Last week
- 46:44Speaker 1: was the exception to the norm. Okay, mister, I wrote
- 46:47Speaker 1: the four of my book Tell Your Story as well.
- 46:51Speaker 3: Yeah, you could find me in the South Florida Tribune
- 46:54Speaker 3: of the contributing writers and I have a column there
- 46:58Speaker 3: and also covered Detroit sports for a long long time.
- 47:01Speaker 3: I authored a book called Detroit Sports Broadcasters on the Air,
- 47:05Speaker 3: and Mike, I'm sure you remember guys like Rue Spartan
- 47:08Speaker 3: and Bud Lynch and Ken cal and Ken Daniels, Dave
- 47:12Speaker 3: Strader and Mickey Redmond. Detroit's been blessed with so many
- 47:15Speaker 3: great hockey announcers over the years.
- 47:18Speaker 5: That's in the book. Scott's in the book.
- 47:19Speaker 3: I got a couple of nice pictures of Scott and
- 47:22Speaker 3: also our friend Ernie Harwell of course, But anyways, there's
- 47:26Speaker 3: a link to the book at the end of my columns.
- 47:28Speaker 3: You can reach me at Yahoo at giicorn at yahoo
- 47:31Speaker 3: dot com, dial me in on x sand G Sports
- 47:35Speaker 3: ninety nine, and also, of course I'm in LinkedIn and
- 47:40Speaker 3: a little bit on Instagram as well. So appreciate the
- 47:43Speaker 3: opportunity of being with you fellas tonight and also look
- 47:45Speaker 3: forward to the Baseball Show on Monday nights and Candy's
- 47:49Speaker 3: Country Club show coming up soon.
- 47:54Speaker 1: Out Candy, go ahead, Candy can go preview for what
- 47:57Speaker 1: they're for at the top of the hour, and a
- 47:59Speaker 1: station break to do with it. Yes, Candy, give them
- 48:06Speaker 1: a preview of what we're in for tonight, Candy and
- 48:09Speaker 1: what we're in for it as well as a station break.
- 48:12Speaker 1: And as we continue to talk, I want to thank
- 48:14Speaker 1: everybody and the chat room for their participation tonight. JD. Wyatt,
- 48:18Speaker 1: Brian Pettitt and so forth. So with that said, as
- 48:22Speaker 1: we continue to move this thing along, some updates here.
- 48:25Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Lightning and the Buffalo Sabers are tied
- 48:28Speaker 1: at five to five. I'll go ahead and provide some
- 48:30Speaker 1: other scores while Candy does get on, and let's see
- 48:34Speaker 1: the Red Wings in the Utah Hockey Club a target
- 48:38Speaker 1: too too, and we'll go to the Florida Panthers game
- 48:41Speaker 1: as well. The Florida Panthers currently lead the Columbus Blue
- 48:45Speaker 1: Jackets to nothing. We are at the set end of
- 48:48Speaker 1: the second period, So as Candy comes back on, I
- 48:53Speaker 1: should point out that that crew tonight will consist of
- 48:56Speaker 1: Ralph Williams, Pensman, George Eikorn, JD. Wyatt, so meanwhill Mike,
- 49:03Speaker 1: we have a lot of things to look forward to.
- 49:07Speaker 1: You'll be on next weekend, obviously, what's going on in
- 49:10Speaker 1: about two weeks. That's where you're going to be at.
- 49:14Speaker 4: I will be at the n c A Wrestling Championships,
- 49:19Speaker 4: another one of my loves. So I'll be up there watching, uh,
- 49:23Speaker 4: probably Penn State winning themselves another national championship with the
- 49:27Speaker 4: team title, and I would I would say that there
- 49:30Speaker 4: could be as many as four or five Penn State
- 49:32Speaker 4: wrestles and when individual titles too, and that'll be that'll
- 49:36Speaker 4: be fun because it's in, it's in Pennsylvania this year,
- 49:39Speaker 4: it's in It's in the Wells Fargo Center in Philly.
- 49:42Speaker 4: It's going to be a great weekend.
- 49:45Speaker 1: So George, you have any other red Wing games that
- 49:47Speaker 1: you're gonna be coming in the near future.
- 49:50Speaker 5: Yeah, I will be going to a few games coming up.
- 49:53Speaker 3: I just you know, I'm, like I expressed last night,
- 49:56Speaker 3: I'm a little bit disappointed.
- 49:57Speaker 5: I I mean, Stevie Wise got a at some trades.
- 50:00Speaker 3: I mean they've got they got rass Bossen back today
- 50:03Speaker 3: in case you didn't hear, he came up. Then they
- 50:05Speaker 3: called a kid up from Grand rapids. But that's not
- 50:08Speaker 3: going to cut the mustard. I mean, he's got to
- 50:10Speaker 3: get a couple veterans in here to help this team out.
- 50:13Speaker 3: If they missed the playoffs again. I don't know that
- 50:15Speaker 3: this town, it will be just up in arms, as
- 50:17Speaker 3: they say, if you can't make the playoffs this year.
- 50:21Speaker 1: Well I'll go over some station break. Just everybody know that.
- 50:25Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Tribune South, our
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- 50:56Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. What a great show tonight,
- 50:59Speaker 1: Georgia jd Y. I say, we'll have to discuss Mark
- 51:02Speaker 1: Ryan one day and your top thoughts on him. I
- 51:06Speaker 1: live with him on air in the upstate South Carolina
- 51:09Speaker 1: before you left. So great show tonight again. You can
- 51:11Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Tribune Soouth, the book www
- 51:16Speaker 1: dot Southford Tribute dot com and you can find all
- 51:19Speaker 1: of our shows up where we get your podcasts. So meanwhile,
- 51:23Speaker 1: on behalf of Mike Santo's Pensman Sports and George Reichorn.
- 51:26Speaker 1: My name is Scott Morgan Rothomotor City, man Mouth. Thank
- 51:29Speaker 1: you for joining us on this edition of the Sports Exchange,
- 51:31Speaker 1: and we will see you next Thursday night. At the
- 51:34Speaker 1: same time, thank you very much much for Mike for
- 51:37Speaker 1: being on the show week in and week out. We
- 51:39Speaker 1: really appreciate your insights. And with that said, we will
- 51:43Speaker 1: wrap it up. Thank you very much everybody.
- 51:46Speaker 4: Thanks guys, thank you, thank you.
- 51:49Speaker 1: I have a great night.
- 51:50Speaker 4: I got I gotta get out quick, so.
- 51:52Speaker 1: But thanks a lot.
- 51:55Speaker 5: All right by.
- 52:10Speaker 1: So as we remain live here for just a few
- 52:15Speaker 1: moments here, we just want to let everybody know what
- 52:17Speaker 1: is ahead here on Sports Exchange. I have some great
- 52:20Speaker 1: shows lined up next week. I we'll have one hundred
- 52:24Speaker 1: eight such as Baseball Talk and we will also have
- 52:28Speaker 1: some great additions of Inside the Fixie and then The
- 52:31Speaker 1: Sports Exchange. So great stuff lined up here. With that said,
- 52:35Speaker 1: I want to thank you very much for joining us.
- 52:37Speaker 1: Good Night everybody.
- 52:38Speaker 5: Good night, good night,