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The Kenny Report | 28 August · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me tonight.
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  Speaker 3: I'll look at some of the tensions inside the coalition
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  Speaker 3: as the opposition leader Susan Lee struggles to hold her
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  Speaker 3: team together, Anthony Alberezi and Labor under pressure over Iranian
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  Speaker 3: sponsored anti Semitic terrorism on our shores, and how Iran
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  Speaker 3: probably got exactly what it wanted.
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  Speaker 1: I'll cross to Israel and speak to their Minister.
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  Speaker 3: For the Diaspora about Iran's terror plots in Australia and
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  Speaker 3: the situation in Gaza. And we'll also cross to the
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  Speaker 3: manhunt in Victoria's high country. Alexander Downer, Sarah Henderson, Mark
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  Speaker 3: Nicholson and Johannes Leak all joined me as Bob Kata
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  Speaker 3: cuts wild and loose yet again.
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  Speaker 4: Don't say that because that irritates me and I punch
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  Speaker 4: blokes in the mouth for saying that.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you dare say that. I'll show you more of
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  Speaker 1: that later. Let's get into it. Last night, as you know,
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  Speaker 1: I was in the Canberra bubble in.
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  Speaker 3: The entire act, of course, is a bubble a public
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  Speaker 3: service city largely insulated from economic swings and roundabouts that
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  Speaker 3: hit the rest of the Nation and Parliament House, of course,
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  Speaker 3: is the bubble within that bubble, and the annual Midwinter
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  Speaker 3: Ball put on by the Press Gallery is the annual
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  Speaker 3: one night Bubble Inside the Bubble. Inside the Bubble, it's
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  Speaker 3: a charity event where politicians, journalists, business leaders and lobbyists
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  Speaker 3: dress up in their finest for a night of laughs
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  Speaker 3: and journalism awards and dancing and off the record political
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  Speaker 3: speeches from the Prime Minister and the Opposition leader. Now
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to quote directly from these speeches because
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  Speaker 3: that's not in the spirit of the evening, but the
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  Speaker 3: first priority for both political leaders that this event is
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  Speaker 3: to be funny.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I bumped into the Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 3: Early in the evening in the bathroom, as it turned out,
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  Speaker 3: and he warned me he was going to give me
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  Speaker 3: a touch up. You give it out, you got to
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  Speaker 3: take it, he said, and that spot on, and he
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  Speaker 3: did have a bit of fun at my expense.
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough.
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  Speaker 3: His was a funny speech, a bit of self deprecation
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  Speaker 3: and a few barbs at his chosen targets.
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  Speaker 1: And Susan Lee passed the laugh test too. She was hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: And yes, she also went for a bit of self
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  Speaker 3: deprecation as well as some good jokes directed at the
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  Speaker 3: tills and labor. But there was something about her speech
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  Speaker 3: that I found a little surprising and perhaps indicative of
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  Speaker 3: where things are heading in the Coalition. Her sharpest lines
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  Speaker 3: were directed at Conservative Liberals and especially the Nationals. She
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  Speaker 3: even singled out National's leader David Little Proud and former
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  Speaker 3: leaders Barnaby Joyce and Michael McCormack with specific barbs.
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  Speaker 1: This surprised a lot of people.
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  Speaker 3: It was quite the talking point and look, it was
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  Speaker 3: a funny speech, which is the main aim of the evening,
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  Speaker 3: but it gave me the impression that Lee doesn't expect
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  Speaker 3: to be around for a long time. It gave me
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  Speaker 3: the impression she's more focused on rivals inside the Coalition
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  Speaker 3: rather than across the aisle. And it was as if
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  Speaker 3: she figured this would be her one and only midwinter
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  Speaker 3: ball speech and she wanted to get an early start
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  Speaker 3: on the blame game. The former Iranian Ambassador to Australia,
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  Speaker 3: Ahmed Sadaigi, now formerly a persona non grada who must
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  Speaker 3: leave the country by tomorrow, made a bit of an
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  Speaker 3: appearance today in Canberra.
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  Speaker 6: We'll just gone over.
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  Speaker 7: We we just we just want to have to say
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  Speaker 7: to hear what you have to say.
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  Speaker 6: I love your aste, I love.
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  Speaker 7: As do you believe Do you believe that Irana behind
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  Speaker 7: these attacks?
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  Speaker 1: I loves Ambassador?
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  Speaker 6: What do you think?
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  Speaker 7: The Prime Minister with Goden is wrong?
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  Speaker 8: Help?
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  Speaker 3: Come?
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  Speaker 6: What's your what you get to say?
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  Speaker 3: He'll be gone tomorrow because his country, the Islamic Republic
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  Speaker 3: of Iran, a known sponsor of terrorism in the Middle
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  Speaker 3: East and around the world, has been exposed for directing
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  Speaker 3: anti Semitic terror attacks in Australia. With his expulsion and
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  Speaker 3: the closure of our embassy in Tehran, diplomatic relations between
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  Speaker 3: Australia and Iran are over. In Parliament, the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 3: was again on the defensive about his tardiness in acting
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  Speaker 3: against the Iranian menace.
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  Speaker 9: Yesterday the Prime Minister told the House that quote, we
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  Speaker 9: listened to intelligence agencies.
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  Speaker 10: We don't try to second guess them.
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  Speaker 9: But this morning it was revealed that the Home Affairs
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  Speaker 9: Department advised the government to list Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps
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  Speaker 9: as a terrorist organization more than two years ago. Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 9: when this national security advice was received on what base
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  Speaker 9: did the government reject it?
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  Speaker 8: There have been a range of comments made in just
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  Speaker 8: the last twenty four hours. On Monday, of course, or
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  Speaker 8: Tuesday Monday, we received the information and the advice Monday afternoon,
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  Speaker 8: we had the appropriate committees and acted. By Tuesday, we
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  Speaker 8: had got our personnel out of Iran to safety and
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  Speaker 8: had expelled the ambassador here from Australia along with three
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  Speaker 8: other diplomats from the Iranian embassy, and we received bipartisan support.
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  Speaker 8: I recall for that action, but it appeared that it
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  Speaker 8: didn't last too long.
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  Speaker 1: No, it did not, and nor should it.
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  Speaker 3: The alban Easy Labor government appears to have prized diplomatic
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  Speaker 3: relations with Iram above standing up to Iran over terrorism
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  Speaker 3: in the Middle East, over our own national security and
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  Speaker 3: our national values. Even with Iran funding and directing Hamas's
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  Speaker 3: atrocities against Israel and Hezbilla's attacks against Israel and the
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  Speaker 3: Huti Rebels attacks against Israel, and even when Iran was
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  Speaker 3: sending drones and missiles in direct attacks against Israel, Labor
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  Speaker 3: kept up diplomatic relations incredibly until this week. Labor has
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  Speaker 3: put more pressure on Israel and its ambassador in Australia
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  Speaker 3: than on Iran. This distortion of reality of foreign policy
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  Speaker 3: priorities and of national values is grotesque and it's dangerous.
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  Speaker 3: That much is plain, But too many in this country,
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  Speaker 3: in the media and in politics, are ignoring the political
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  Speaker 3: reality that flows from this, the cold hard fact that
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  Speaker 3: Iran's anti Semitic terror attacks on our soil, its interference
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  Speaker 3: in our democracy, has paid dividends.
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  Speaker 7: Flames fanned tensions to one of Australia's busiest synagogue burns,
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  Speaker 7: leaving Melbourne's Jewish community in fear. Witnesses saw two masked
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  Speaker 7: men spreading petrol then setting the building on fire.
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  Speaker 3: You only have to ask yourself why late last year
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  Speaker 3: Iran would want to inflame the anti Semitic attacks and
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  Speaker 3: sentiments that were evident in Australia from the day after
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  Speaker 3: the October the seventh attacks in Israel.
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  Speaker 1: A full year earlier.
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  Speaker 3: Why was Iran interested in stirring up tensions in Australia Now, Sure,
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  Speaker 3: Iran wants to intimidate Jews everywhere, and sure Iran wants
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  Speaker 3: to divide and disrupt democracies like ours Western countries.
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  Speaker 1: Allies of the US.
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  Speaker 3: But primarily Iran wants to isolate Israel and promote the
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  Speaker 3: Islamist coups of Hamas and Hezbalar and other jihadist outfits,
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  Speaker 3: fanning divisions in Australia, fueling the hatred that we've seen
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  Speaker 3: in mass protests, chants against Israel, chants for into fada,
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  Speaker 3: chance for a Palestinian state that will eliminate Israel. This
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  Speaker 3: is all music to Iran's is This is the radicalism
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  Speaker 3: it encourages, this is the way it can help to
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  Speaker 3: isolate Israel. So when the Albanese labor government caved into
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  Speaker 3: this public pressure and announced it would recognize a non
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  Speaker 3: existent Palestinian state, it rewarded the terrorists of Hummas and Hezbalah,
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  Speaker 3: and it further isolated Israel. But it also meant that
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  Speaker 3: the foreign interference in our country by the terror state
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  Speaker 3: of Iran had born political fruit. Well.
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  Speaker 11: Iuran would have had a couple of objectives from what
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  Speaker 11: they did. The first would have been to terrorize the
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  Speaker 11: Jewish community. Actually that has worked. The second was to
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  Speaker 11: divide our country. Unfortunately that has worked. And the third
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  Speaker 11: is to influence our foreign policy, and it appears that
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  Speaker 11: that has worked too. And I think it is particularly
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  Speaker 11: shameful on this government that they have bowed to that pressure.
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  Speaker 11: That they bowed to, that incitement, that they bowed to
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  Speaker 11: that state sponsored terror.
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  Speaker 12: Mister Albernizi has capitulated to the Islamic Republic of Iran.
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  Speaker 12: They have got what they wanted, Chris, the recognition of
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  Speaker 12: a Palestinian state, whilst their proxies, the terrorists Khamas, are
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  Speaker 12: in charge.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the implications are clear and they are damning.
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  Speaker 1: This is an historic moment.
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  Speaker 3: These revelations about Iran provide Alberanzi with the perfect excuse
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  Speaker 3: and opportunity to reverse his decision on Palestinian recognition. That
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  Speaker 3: would be the best way to advance the prospects for
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  Speaker 3: peace in the Middle East. It would be the best
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  Speaker 3: way to repe Iran and the terror groups its sponsors,
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  Speaker 3: and it would be the best way to stand up
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  Speaker 3: for Australia's values. Staying on the Middle East issue, Australian
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  Speaker 3: cricketer Usman Kowaja has weighed in taking his views to Canberra.
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  Speaker 5: I'm here today because I want the government, our government
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  Speaker 5: to increase their sanctions in Israel and on promise and
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  Speaker 5: then Yahoo, I want us to stop trading with Israel
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  Speaker 5: until they stop killing innocent children and allow full aid
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  Speaker 5: to flow into the country enough to sustain life. What
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  Speaker 5: we see our last year has been horrific, children having
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  Speaker 5: dying every day.
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  Speaker 3: Kuwaja is a Pakistani born Muslim who came to Australia
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  Speaker 3: aged four and has represented his country.
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  Speaker 1: In all forms of the game.
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  Speaker 3: He's a great Australian cricketer, much loved in this country.
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  Speaker 3: I was there at the SCG with my boys three
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  Speaker 3: years ago when he made his test comeback, notched up
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  Speaker 3: centuries in both innings and I don't think I've ever
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  Speaker 3: heard a more joyous celebration of one hundred by the crowd.
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  Speaker 3: But Kwaja's intervention on the Middle East today was deeply
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  Speaker 3: unwise and wrongheaded. We all want the war to stop,
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  Speaker 3: we all want peace in Gaza. But Kwaja made no
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  Speaker 3: criticism of Hummas, the terror group that deliberately started the
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  Speaker 3: war and refuses to lay down its arms. Kawaja said
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  Speaker 3: nothing about the hostages either. They've been held for almost
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  Speaker 3: two years in a daily war crime, thirty dead body
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  Speaker 3: still held as bargaining macab bargaining chips, and twenty others
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  Speaker 3: starved and tortured in an ordeal beyond belief. Kwaja only
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  Speaker 3: had criticism for Israel and he got a meeting with
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  Speaker 3: the Prime Minister and Treasurer.
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  Speaker 1: I was also.
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  Speaker 13: Able to join a discussion between Osmond and the Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 13: a good discussion in the Prime Minister's office between Osmond
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  Speaker 13: Kowaja and Prime Minister ALBANIZI grateful to the PM for
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  Speaker 13: making time for Uzzy, and I'm grateful to Ussi for
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  Speaker 13: making the trip.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know much about the meeting. I hope someone
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  Speaker 3: mentioned Hummus. I hope someone mentioned Iran and terrorism and antisemitism.
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  Speaker 3: I hope someone mentioned the Israeli victims and the hostages.
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  Speaker 1: This is not political, it's not religious. It's for human rights.
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  Speaker 5: It's a human right number one to have food and water.
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  Speaker 3: If it's not religious, if it's not political, why are
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  Speaker 3: the hostages ignored?
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  Speaker 1: Why the aggressors not admonished.
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  Speaker 3: Why are there only attacks on Israeli country that just
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  Speaker 3: in the past two years has been attacked by hummas Hezballah,
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  Speaker 3: Islamic Jihad, the Hutis, and Iran, and today it's also
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  Speaker 3: been attacked by Usman Kuwaja. To the anti israel crowd,
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  Speaker 3: apparently Hummaus is either blameless or not worthy of.
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  Speaker 1: A mention, and the hostages.
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  Speaker 3: The hostages are either forgotten or they're not worthy of
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  Speaker 3: a mention. The man hunt for Desi Freeman continues in
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  Speaker 3: dense bushland at Pupunka, three hundred kilometers northeast of Melbourne.
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  Speaker 1: Up in the high Country.
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  Speaker 3: I want to tell you some more about the two
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  Speaker 3: police officers who were killed. Once more, police officers who
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  Speaker 3: risk danger every day in this country to keep us
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  Speaker 3: safe were taken in horrific circumstances on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: Detective Leading Senior Constable.
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  Speaker 3: Neil Thompson was with the police force for thirty eight
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  Speaker 3: years in Victoria and he was just days away from
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  Speaker 3: retirement with his partner Lisa. The couple had built a
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  Speaker 3: new home and they'd put together a long list of
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  Speaker 3: retirement plans. Senior Constable Vardam de Wart joined Victoria Police
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  Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen. He was on temporary assignment in Wangaratta.
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  Speaker 3: He enjoyed travel and he was a keen gin collector.
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  Speaker 3: And he survived by a younger brother and his parents
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  Speaker 3: who lived in Belgium. He is Deputy Commissioner Russell Barrett
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  Speaker 3: paying tribute to the officers this afternoon.
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  Speaker 14: One of thirty nine year veteran loved by the local community,
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  Speaker 14: loved by his fellow workmates, on the cusp of retirement,
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  Speaker 14: really in his last week or so of his journey,
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  Speaker 14: looking forward to his future. And a young man who's
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  Speaker 14: relatively recent to our organization, whose professionalism is all I
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  Speaker 14: hear about from his colleague, who had a great career
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  Speaker 14: in front of him, who had so many skills and
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  Speaker 14: so many capabilities, and cut down just doing their job.
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  Speaker 8: As a parliament as a country, we offer our deepest
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  Speaker 8: condolences to all whose worlds have been shattered by this
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  Speaker 8: horrific shooting.
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  Speaker 10: Every police officer who puts on that uniform to go
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  Speaker 10: to work has our respect and gratitude. All Australians stand
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  Speaker 10: shoulder to shoulder the Victoria Police at this moment of
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  Speaker 10: profound sadness.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go to the scene now and bring in our reporter,
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  Speaker 3: Harry Clark.
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  Speaker 1: Harry night is.
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  Speaker 3: Falling, this going into a third day this search. Shocking
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  Speaker 3: weather conditions there too is that's obviously hampering any police
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  Speaker 3: search efforts. Is there any hope that the weather could
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  Speaker 3: force the fugitive out?
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  Speaker 15: Well, for this cold Queensland journal I'm hoping that the
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  Speaker 15: weather reprieves a little bit it is still an icy
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  Speaker 15: wind that's sort of whipping through this alpine region, and
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  Speaker 15: pretty consistent rain that comes and goes. And no doubt
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  Speaker 15: that is, as you say, Chris, hindering efforts to search
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  Speaker 15: for this fifty six year old accused double cop killer,
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  Speaker 15: Desi Freeman. But would you believe it, It is just
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  Speaker 15: a holding pattern. The man hunt continues. From the perspective
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  Speaker 15: of authorities and from the perspective of the local community here,
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  Speaker 15: it's a holding pattern as we're told to continue remaining vigilant,
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  Speaker 15: stay inside, avoid moving around if you can, and keep
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  Speaker 15: on the lookout, or should I say police are saying
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  Speaker 15: that if you come across or spotted Desi Freeman, don't
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  Speaker 15: approach him.
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  Speaker 6: Contact Triple zero.
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  Speaker 15: Texas still being sent out saying that he is armed
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  Speaker 15: and dangerous and remains at large.
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  Speaker 3: Is there any confirmation, Harry, from police that they know
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  Speaker 3: he's still in that area, that he hasn't gotten out.
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  Speaker 1: Of the cordoned off area. It is rugged Bushland goes
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  Speaker 1: all the.
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  Speaker 3: Way up to Mount Buffalo at a confident that they
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  Speaker 3: have him surrounded.
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  Speaker 15: That's what they say, Chris, And that is a question
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  Speaker 15: that a lot of people are curious about. This is
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  Speaker 15: a huge expansive area of rolling hills, a lot of bushland,
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  Speaker 15: a lot of densely wooded bush land. We are at
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  Speaker 15: the foothills of Mount Baffalo and the main search area
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  Speaker 15: is just to the west of Poor Punker around that bushland.
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  Speaker 15: One of the locals of Poor Punker I spoke to today
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  Speaker 15: said that this bloke could be in gipps Land by now,
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  Speaker 15: who would know. He could have covered a lot of
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  Speaker 15: country over the past fifty odd hours or so. But
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  Speaker 15: police did say at the press conference that they are
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  Speaker 15: working to the theory that Desi Friedman remains in this area,
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  Speaker 15: and that is evidenced by the fact that all the
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  Speaker 15: police search vehicles and the helicopters continue to scour this
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  Speaker 15: immediate vicinity. It is quite a small area with regard
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  Speaker 15: to the size of this broader region. The radius of
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  Speaker 15: about ten or fifteen k's at my estimate, is how
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  Speaker 15: far the choppers are going and the police cars are
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  Speaker 15: going as they continue to forensically go through all patches
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  Speaker 15: of this densely with a bush land around the Poor
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  Speaker 15: Punker area in Victoria's northeastern Alps.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks Harry, I hope you and everyone else up there
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  Speaker 3: stays warm and safe.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: Harry Clark the reporting live from poor Punker up there,
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  Speaker 3: just near Brighton, Victorious High Country. Now I want to
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  Speaker 3: go to Jerusalem and catch up with Israel's Minister for
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  Speaker 3: Diaspora Affairs, Amakai Chickley.
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  Speaker 1: Good to talk to you. I Makai, appreciate you joining
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  Speaker 1: us there.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously your responsibilities relate to Jewish communities around the world.
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  Speaker 3: You'll be terribly concerned about Australians who happen to be
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  Speaker 3: Jewish and what they've endured over the.
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  Speaker 1: Past almost two years.
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  Speaker 3: What's your reaction to news that Iran has played a
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  Speaker 3: hand in anti Semitic terror attacks in Australia.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it's not surprising.
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  Speaker 16: Irani's active all across the globe, in the US, in
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  Speaker 16: e Europe. We saw also the melo of Haabad person
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  Speaker 16: in Dubai last year. So the telot activity of Iran
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  Speaker 16: is not something new, and we welcome the decision of
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  Speaker 16: the government to remove the Uranian ambassador to Australia, but
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  Speaker 16: it cannot it cannot hide the disappointment that we have
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  Speaker 16: from the devastating move to recognize a non existent Palestinian state.
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  Speaker 16: An act that is encouraging Hamas, harming our efforts to
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  Speaker 16: release the hostages, arming our efforts to end the war.
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  Speaker 16: Truly a reward for Hamas in a very very dangerous
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  Speaker 16: and weak decision.
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  Speaker 1: Is it not also a reward for Iran?
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  Speaker 3: Isn't this exactly the sort of political position Iran would
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  Speaker 3: have been hoping to intimidate a Australia in well.
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  Speaker 16: Absolutely, Iran is one of the main sponsors of Hamas,
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  Speaker 16: not just Ramas, also Chris Bala. Despite the fact that
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  Speaker 16: Iran is a Shia country, they have a very close
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  Speaker 16: relationship with Hamas for about a decade, and they have invested.
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  Speaker 6: Millions actually be more accurate billions in the training and.
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  Speaker 16: The equipment, the missiles program and the military programs of Hamas.
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  Speaker 16: So obviously this act to reward Ramas and to recognize
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  Speaker 16: the Palestinian state in the middle of a war against
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  Speaker 16: Hamas is obviously also a boost for the diplomatic strategy
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  Speaker 16: of the Iranian Revolutionary Gods.
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  Speaker 3: Now you welcome the ending of diplomatic relations between Iran
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  Speaker 3: and Australia, but there have been public calls for the
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  Speaker 3: withdrawal of the ambassador. The ending of relations. The listing
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  Speaker 3: of the Revolutionary Guards Court for the last couple of years,
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  Speaker 3: and the Labor government here has resisted doing that until now,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: and over that period it actually has called in the
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Israeli ambassador to be admonished over what's going on in
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: the Middle East more often than the Iranian ambassador. Can
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: you explain the reaction to that series of events in Israel?
• 21:26
  Speaker 16: Yes, So, first, when we are looking at this kind
• 21:30
  Speaker 16: of of actions and what you just said, we must
• 21:36
  Speaker 16: mention the decision of the Albaniz's government to ban the
• 21:41
  Speaker 16: entrance of the Member of Knesset sim hawatman elected official
• 21:47
  Speaker 16: in democratic states, and before that of an activist, the
• 21:51
  Speaker 16: Zionist activist, the Thelford who lost his brother in a
• 21:54
  Speaker 16: tale at that and before it was the ministry former
• 21:58
  Speaker 16: Ministry of Interior Academy is currently not in a position
• 22:03
  Speaker 16: in the government.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: She was also a band and refused to enter the state.
• 22:08
  Speaker 16: So, in a way, the feelings that we get from
• 22:12
  Speaker 16: the Albanizi's government is that we are being treated as
• 22:16
  Speaker 16: if we are the enemies of Australia, as if we
• 22:20
  Speaker 16: are the Iranians, or if we are an adversary, and
• 22:26
  Speaker 16: the people in Israel we see ourselves as allies of Australia,
• 22:30
  Speaker 16: as ali of the Australian people, and it's actually shocking
• 22:35
  Speaker 16: to see a democratic government siding with Ramas, with the
• 22:41
  Speaker 16: talist that committed October seventh, is going to recognize the
• 22:45
  Speaker 16: Palestinian state in the middle of the war, regardless of
• 22:49
  Speaker 16: the hostages. This is something which is I think is
• 22:52
  Speaker 16: tremendously harmful and I don't think it will impact the
• 22:57
  Speaker 16: feelings that we add towards the Australian people, but I
• 23:00
  Speaker 16: think that it brings a big danger not just for
• 23:04
  Speaker 16: the hostages, not just for the state of Israel, but
• 23:07
  Speaker 16: also for the Australian people. Look, we've been witnessed what
• 23:10
  Speaker 16: happened in Sydney. We saw this huge march, tens of
• 23:14
  Speaker 16: thousands of people on Sydney's Bridge with al Qaeda flags,
• 23:18
  Speaker 16: with the ISIS flags and the Palestinian flags.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Let me just jump in there if I could, Minister,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: because I want to ask you in specific relation to this,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: do you know whether any Israeli intelligence has helped Australia
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: to pin down the source of these attacks?
• 23:36
  Speaker 16: As far as I know, the reports that reliable reports
• 23:43
  Speaker 16: that the intelligence did help the Australian with the information
• 23:50
  Speaker 16: regarding the involvement.
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: Of the Iranians in this day attacks. And this is
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: not something new.
• 23:55
  Speaker 16: We share intelligence with Australia and with any other Western countries,
• 24:01
  Speaker 16: and that is why we are so surprised to see
• 24:05
  Speaker 16: a government that is taking one sided actions, supporting Hamas,
• 24:12
  Speaker 16: supporting Talism, supporting the diplomacy of behind and turning it
• 24:17
  Speaker 16: back towards the only democracy in the Middle East.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I've got to turn our attention to Gaza.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Are you getting a lot of criticism from the United
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Nations and other sources about deliberate starvation policies? Are people
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: starving in Gaza? And is this a deliberate strategy of Israel's.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: Not at all. First, there is no starvation in Gaza.
• 24:41
  Speaker 16: Obviously, there is a humanitarian crisis because of the war.
• 24:46
  Speaker 16: We need to remember that we didn't start this war.
• 24:50
  Speaker 16: One second, we need to remember that this war can
• 24:53
  Speaker 16: end to Modrow morning if Hamas lay down its weapons
• 24:57
  Speaker 16: and release the hostages. In the last months since May
• 25:03
  Speaker 16: to August, more than fifty thousand tons of supply went
• 25:09
  Speaker 16: into Gather.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: This is an enormous.
• 25:13
  Speaker 16: Number of supply of food, of medics, etc. These numbers
• 25:19
  Speaker 16: coming from the UN reports themselves.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: Now, one of the main problems is that.
• 25:26
  Speaker 16: A large portion of this supply was intercepted according to
• 25:31
  Speaker 16: the UN.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Let me jump in because I've reported it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: I've reported on a lot of I understand that, and
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: my viewers and understand that.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I've explained that to them many times. We've also showed.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: How there's been a lot of misreporting by various media
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: agencies passing off six children and suffering starvation, etc.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I've also exposed how the UN just made.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Up stories about fourteen thousand babies going to die within
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: forty eight hours and all the rest. But the question remains, then,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: what is the situation? What is the true situation? Because
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: you have competing claims, why not just allow independent journalists
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: into Gaza so.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: That the world can verify the reality.
• 26:17
  Speaker 16: So, first, the situation currently, after these three weeks of
• 26:21
  Speaker 16: massive supply coming from the air from Maroco, the UAE, etcetera, etcetera.
• 26:27
  Speaker 16: Now the Gaza is floated with supply by that came
• 26:33
  Speaker 16: through land and through air, and we can see that
• 26:37
  Speaker 16: the prizes of the WIT and et cetera is very
• 26:42
  Speaker 16: low comparing to what it was two months ago.
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: So that is the current situation. The situation in terms
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: of the supply is good.
• 26:52
  Speaker 16: We also brought journalists to the distribution locations of the
• 26:58
  Speaker 16: supply to see.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: The process.
• 27:03
  Speaker 16: Also there's the GHF, which is an attempt to make
• 27:06
  Speaker 16: sure that Hamas doesn't take doesn't steal the food from
• 27:10
  Speaker 16: the people.
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: And that is also important.
• 27:13
  Speaker 16: Regarding sending journalists into the battle zone, and I'm not
• 27:17
  Speaker 16: sure that this is a good idea. This is a
• 27:20
  Speaker 16: war zone and I think it might be extremely dangerous
• 27:24
  Speaker 16: to just send the journalists into Gaza City at the moment.
• 27:31
  Speaker 16: We do brought more than one hundred journalists to join
• 27:35
  Speaker 16: the forces before this current operation, and I'm sure that
• 27:40
  Speaker 16: during this operation there was also there will also be
• 27:42
  Speaker 16: an opportunity to bring journalists and show them the reality
• 27:46
  Speaker 16: on the ground during the next stage of the operation.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: We have gone over time, Amaki, I appreciate that. I'll
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: try and catch up with you again sometimes, so thanks
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: so much for your time, Thanks so much, Thank you
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: for AMIKOI Chickley there, who's the Israeli.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Minister for the diaspora around the world. We better get
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: to a break.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: On the other side, We're going to catch up with
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Victorian Liberal Senators Sarah Henderson from the Bush Summit in Ballarat.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Let's go to Victoria and Liberal Senator Sarah Henderson he
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: joins us from Ballarat's in Victoria ahead of tomorrow's Bush Summit.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Good to speak to you again, Senator. Obviously I would
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: have thought of the Bush Summit tomorrow in Ballarata.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: As is the case right around the country.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: There will be a lot of concern about the renewables
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: roll up roll out, the reckless renewables, the sol of farms,
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: the wind turbines, the transmission lines that are going in
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: all around the place, and the high price that regional
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Australians are paying for all of this.
• 28:51
  Speaker 17: Well, Chris, great to join you from wonderful Ballarata and
• 28:54
  Speaker 17: of course one of the number of venues of the
• 28:56
  Speaker 17: Bush summitt. So thanks very much to the Herald Sun
• 28:58
  Speaker 17: and Sky and Hancock and everyone else who's getting behind
• 29:02
  Speaker 17: this really important focus on the regions. But you're right,
• 29:05
  Speaker 17: there is huge distress about the renewables roll out across
• 29:09
  Speaker 17: western Victoria, which is compromising and frankly destroying regional communities,
• 29:15
  Speaker 17: putting the livelihoods of farmers at risks. High voltage transmission towers,
• 29:21
  Speaker 17: which of course is all about furthering Labour's renewables reckless
• 29:26
  Speaker 17: scheme without considering that the true cost to our country.
• 29:31
  Speaker 18: And frankly, I don't think it's good enough.
• 29:33
  Speaker 17: These schemes need to stop right now, and Cinter Allen
• 29:37
  Speaker 17: and Anthony Albanezi need to start respecting farmers and regional communities,
• 29:42
  Speaker 17: including here in Victoria.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Look, there's a couple of big elements of misinformation, if
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: not blatant lies, that Labor are relying on to run
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: their arguments. One of them is that if we do
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: all this, somehow we're going to change the climate. Now,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: anybody who understands the science and the numbers and the
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: facts knows that no matter what Australia does, it's not
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: going to affect the climate. That's just a simple matter
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: of a simple factor of the size of our country
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: and our relative emissions to the rest of the world.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: But also the Prime Minister keeps telling us we're suffering
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: from global warming right now. He was at it again
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: today trying to say that the owl will bloom in
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: South Australia is all about climate change.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Have a look, this.
• 30:23
  Speaker 19: Issue is directly related to climate change. The people that
• 30:28
  Speaker 19: we met this morning this morning understand that it's directly
• 30:34
  Speaker 19: related to climate change.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Now, is he right?
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: They've had blooms before, they'll have them again. He's trying
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: to scare everybody. Put up your windmills or you'll get
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: more blooms.
• 30:48
  Speaker 17: Well, there is no doubt this Prime Minister is trying
• 30:50
  Speaker 17: to scare all Australians. But all we have seen from
• 30:54
  Speaker 17: labor over the last three years is higher electricity prices
• 30:57
  Speaker 17: and our energy security compromised. This government and of course
• 31:03
  Speaker 17: the Victorian government, they do not care about farmers, they
• 31:06
  Speaker 17: do not care about regional communities, and frankly, they don't
• 31:10
  Speaker 17: care about baseload power. We are going off a cliff
• 31:13
  Speaker 17: in this country. I haven't had a kind word to
• 31:16
  Speaker 17: say Chris frankly about net zero, but as I see it,
• 31:20
  Speaker 17: the cost is way too high for our manufacturers, for
• 31:24
  Speaker 17: our farmers, for our regional communities. And why should we
• 31:27
  Speaker 17: pay the cost when we are being a responsible citizen.
• 31:30
  Speaker 17: We are driving down our emissions compared to other countries,
• 31:34
  Speaker 17: only one point one.
• 31:36
  Speaker 18: Percent of global emissions.
• 31:38
  Speaker 17: China and the US combined are nearly sixty percent, So
• 31:41
  Speaker 17: we are.
• 31:42
  Speaker 18: Playing our part.
• 31:43
  Speaker 17: But why should we sacrifice our futures and the futures
• 31:46
  Speaker 17: of our children, while of course emissions are spiraling in
• 31:50
  Speaker 17: other parts of the world.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: All paying for no gain.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: I've got to get your thoughts on the Linda Reynolds
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Britney Higgins defamation case yesterday. Here's some of your colleague,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Linda Reynolds.
• 32:01
  Speaker 20: This action was always it was always about the dishonest
• 32:04
  Speaker 20: and devastating attack my reputation that was based on very
• 32:09
  Speaker 20: carefully curated lies. I'm not expecting an apology from the
• 32:13
  Speaker 20: Labor government for their role in this completely fabricated me
• 32:18
  Speaker 20: too political hit job.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Now, of course these lies being exposed do vindicate Linda Reynolds,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: but they also.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Vindicate your party.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: This was all a part of a political campaign to
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: smear the Coalition as anti women.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: What's your response to it all.
• 32:37
  Speaker 17: Well, Chris, Linda has been fully and finally vindicated. What
• 32:41
  Speaker 17: she has gone through has been absolutely horrific. The court
• 32:46
  Speaker 17: has found that there was absolutely no substance at all
• 32:49
  Speaker 17: in the false claim that she sought to cover up
• 32:52
  Speaker 17: an alleged rape in Parliament House.
• 32:55
  Speaker 18: Britney Higgins, of course has been found to have told
• 32:58
  Speaker 18: multiple lies.
• 32:59
  Speaker 17: But let's not forget who was also involved, Katie Gallagher
• 33:03
  Speaker 17: and Penny Wong and the Albanese government who prosecuted this.
• 33:07
  Speaker 18: Lie day in day out. They destroyed Linda Reynolds.
• 33:12
  Speaker 17: And I'm so proud of my great friend who's fought
• 33:14
  Speaker 17: back over four and a half years. Frankly, Penny Wong
• 33:18
  Speaker 17: and Katie Gallagher must unconditionally apologize for what they have done,
• 33:23
  Speaker 17: for the falsehoods that they have prosecuted over a long
• 33:26
  Speaker 17: period of time. And I don't think Chris, that Katie
• 33:30
  Speaker 17: Gallagher is fit to be the Minister for Women. She
• 33:33
  Speaker 17: has really done everything to destroy a fine Liberal senator
• 33:38
  Speaker 17: who's now left the Parliament and I think was driven
• 33:40
  Speaker 17: out of the Parliament. Why should she be representing women
• 33:44
  Speaker 17: across this country when she could not even treat female
• 33:47
  Speaker 17: colleagues in our own chamber with basic decency and honesty
• 33:52
  Speaker 17: and respect.
• 33:52
  Speaker 18: It's an absolute disgrace.
• 33:54
  Speaker 17: But can I just say, I'm so proud of Linda.
• 33:56
  Speaker 17: She's a magnificent woman. She's been fully vindicated and a
• 34:01
  Speaker 17: great a great judgment and a great day for Linda.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: And let's not forget the trauma that was inflicted on
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: the late great Labor Senator Kimberly Kitchen throughout that horrible
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: saga as well.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us, Sarah, I appreciate it.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Senator Sarah Henderson there joining us from a Ballarat that
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Bush summit on there Tomorrow on the other side of
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: the break, we're going to catch up with former Foreign
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Minister Alexander Downer again.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Very keen to get his.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Thoughts on Iran, exposed for sponsoring anti Semitic terrorism in Australia.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Alexander Downer was Australia's longest serving foreign minister. He joins
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: me live from Melbourne. Good to talk to you again, Alexander.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: As I often mentioned when we chat, I used to
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: work with you back during the Howard government years and
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: when you were my boss, we traveled to Iran. It
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: wasn't your only visit there. I'm certain you bet went
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: there more than once. But you've met with the Mullers
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: there and with the politicians you've obviously experienced over a
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: long period in dealing with intelligence about Iran and its
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: activities in that part of the world and around the world.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I'm really eager to get your thoughts on what we've
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: learned this week about it's involvement in any Semitic terror
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: attacks on our shores.
• 35:17
  Speaker 21: Well, I'm not surprised the Iranian regime. You know, the
• 35:21
  Speaker 21: hardliners in the Iranian regime have been doing the same
• 35:26
  Speaker 21: thing in other countries, in the UK and so on,
• 35:30
  Speaker 21: and of course they want to foment division in our
• 35:36
  Speaker 21: society as best they possibly can, and that's worked pretty
• 35:40
  Speaker 21: well for them. They have certainly managed to rile a
• 35:45
  Speaker 21: lot of people and cause a lot of social division.
• 35:50
  Speaker 21: But I think it's important to recognize here the point
• 35:56
  Speaker 21: about Israel. Israel has always been a great friend of Australia,
• 36:01
  Speaker 21: and one of the things the Israelis have done is
• 36:04
  Speaker 21: share their intelligence with us, including in my time, sometimes directly,
• 36:10
  Speaker 21: sometimes through the Americans. And their intelligence on Iran is
• 36:15
  Speaker 21: absolutely invaluable. No country Western country, if you could pull
• 36:20
  Speaker 21: them that, no Western country has better intelligence on Iran
• 36:25
  Speaker 21: than Israel. So I don't know in this particular case
• 36:30
  Speaker 21: the extent to which Israeli intelligence was involved, but their
• 36:34
  Speaker 21: intelligence has been hugely helpful to Australia, stopping the airline
• 36:41
  Speaker 21: blowing up plot in twenty seventeen exactly.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Well, I spoke a little earlier to Amakai Chickley, the
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Diaspora Minister from Israel, and he says Israeli intelligence would
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: have informed Australia on this occasion.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I'm interested to get your thoughts on whether.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: This has had a political dividend over time, the fomentation
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: of divisions in Australia a political dividend for Iran. Here's
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: the Shadow Foreign Minister, Michaulia Cash on the program yesterday.
• 37:10
  Speaker 12: Mister Albanesi has capitulated to the Islamic Republic of Iran.
• 37:15
  Speaker 12: They have got what they wanted, Chris, the recognition of
• 37:19
  Speaker 12: a Palestinian state. Whilst their proxies, the terrorists Humas are
• 37:25
  Speaker 12: in charge.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Well, their ambassadors are leaving the country tomorrow. But have
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: they got they wanted from the Australian government.
• 37:33
  Speaker 21: Well, I think they've done very well with the Australian
• 37:36
  Speaker 21: government because the campaign which says prosecuted has coordinated out
• 37:42
  Speaker 21: of Iran, but prosecuted by Hamas and their other proxies
• 37:47
  Speaker 21: has blab and so the list goes on, has gained
• 37:51
  Speaker 21: real traction. It's been a huge propaganda victory for them,
• 37:56
  Speaker 21: to the extent that many Australians now marching against Israel.
• 38:02
  Speaker 21: Denigrating Israel, chanting from the river to the sea, which
• 38:06
  Speaker 21: means which let's translate that into English, that means the
• 38:10
  Speaker 21: elimination of the state of Israel. So in that sense
• 38:16
  Speaker 21: they've been very successful. Not they alone, but the Iranians
• 38:20
  Speaker 21: can be proud of what they've done. And they've got
• 38:24
  Speaker 21: the Australian government frightened by this reaction, particularly in the
• 38:29
  Speaker 21: Islamic communities and amongst people on the far left who
• 38:33
  Speaker 21: might otherwise vote Labor. They've become frightened of this, and
• 38:38
  Speaker 21: now they've gone ahead with this slightly nutty idea of
• 38:42
  Speaker 21: recognizing a Palestinian stake and once more giving a huge
• 38:47
  Speaker 21: propaganda victory not just to Hamas but of course above
• 38:51
  Speaker 21: all and ultimately to hamas As funders, who are the Iranians.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: What possible reason could the Lurban easy Labor government have
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: had for continuing to hold diplomatic relations with Iran after
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: October the seventh, when we knew it was funded and
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: initiated by Iran, and as were the almost immediate attacks
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: from Hisbola in the North.
• 39:18
  Speaker 21: Well, I'm not sure it would have helped to break
• 39:20
  Speaker 21: off diplomatic relations with them. But what they've done, and
• 39:26
  Speaker 21: people should really think about this. What they've done, and
• 39:30
  Speaker 21: many people in the Australian media have done, is demonize
• 39:35
  Speaker 21: Israel when the people who are behind this are the Iranians,
• 39:41
  Speaker 21: and it is Iran, I mean the Iranian regime, not
• 39:44
  Speaker 21: the Iranian people. The Iranian regime is behind all of this,
• 39:49
  Speaker 21: behind the declaration of war against Israel on the seventh
• 39:54
  Speaker 21: of October twenty twenty three, behind the whole campaign against Israel.
• 40:01
  Speaker 21: The people ultimately behind this are the Iranians. And yet
• 40:06
  Speaker 21: all the pressure, all the pressure from the Australian government
• 40:10
  Speaker 21: has been put on Israel. Israel, you know, should have
• 40:15
  Speaker 21: a Ceasepyre always demanding Israel lay down their weapons, lay
• 40:20
  Speaker 21: down their defensive weapons all the whole time. When did
• 40:25
  Speaker 21: the Australian government ever demand, ever demand that is that
• 40:31
  Speaker 21: Iran instead of Israel, that Iran make sure their proxies
• 40:36
  Speaker 21: stop this war.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Indeed, thanks so much for joining us, Alexander, I appreciate it. Alexander,
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: down on there. The pressure all along should have been
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: on Iran. After the break, going to catch up with
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Mark Nicholson and Johannah Slake, we'll have a look at
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Bob Katter cutting loose like never before.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Almost.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Let's wrap up another eventful week with Martin Nicholson from
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: step Mate Studios joined us live from Melbourne and Johannes Leek,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: cartoonist with The Australian is on the New South Wales
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Central Coast.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Good to talk to both of you guys.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: And look, it's been a week of deadly serious issues,
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: of course.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: But what a lovely way to.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Finish it off the parliamentary sitting week, at least with
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: a bit of a cameo appearance from Bob Katta. He's
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: always entertaining today who was actually talking about migration and
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: the need for immigrants to sort of adopt our national values.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: And the Channel nine reporter was starting to ask what
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: seemed like it was going to be a reasonable question, but.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Katta was having none of it.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Have a look, if you've got Lebanies heritage yourself.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, Mike, don't say that because that iritates me and
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: I punch bots in the mouth for saying that.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Don't you dare say that? My family have been in this.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: Country for one hundred and forty years, right, so you
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: and you say anying like that, I have on many
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: occasions punch bloods in the mouth, right, So I'm restraining
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: myself today.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Don't say it. I'm not listening to you.
• 42:09
  Speaker 15: You're out.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: You cannot say what you.
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  Speaker 4: Just said without being identified as a racist, some gentleman, ladies,
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  Speaker 4: this man is a racist from the boss.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my lordy, lordy me.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that journal dipsmelid to him for keeping
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: his call, because that was some intimidation and they handah
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: some tendency to suggest that you've got a bit of
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: German heritage, but apparently not able to mention any of this.
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  Speaker 22: Well, yeah, he's clearly very very sensitive about the trace
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  Speaker 22: of Lebanese heritage.
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  Speaker 23: That's there.
• 42:45
  Speaker 22: What I think is amazing about Bob Catter is this
• 42:49
  Speaker 22: sort of just fits in with his I mean, it's
• 42:52
  Speaker 22: a little bit more sort of over the top than
• 42:54
  Speaker 22: you usual.
• 42:54
  Speaker 23: But everybody will just forget about this tomorrow. But if
• 42:57
  Speaker 23: it was any other politician, if it was.
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  Speaker 22: Like Dan ten or threatening a journal, it would be massive.
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  Speaker 22: But he's got an Bobcatters Overton window is sort of
• 43:12
  Speaker 22: way somewhere else, and you just sort of go, oh,
• 43:15
  Speaker 22: that's Bob.
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  Speaker 23: That's just Bob, you know, and he kind of gets
• 43:19
  Speaker 23: away with it, you know.
• 43:20
  Speaker 22: If you're extreme and mad all the time, you know,
• 43:23
  Speaker 22: people just starting to sort of expect those.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: You are dead right.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: I mean in the end there, when he's got his
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: fist up in the journo's face, that's.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Very threatening behavior. Nobody else would get away with that.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: I just want before I get your thoughts, Mark, I
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: thought i'd share you another example of Canda, because other
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: times he's very happy to talk about his ethnic background.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Have a look, identify a black fellow lot occasions, and
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: I'll identify this time as a black fellow.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: He's identifying as a blackfellow there, Mark, I mean, how
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: do we explain away this bloke.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, that's the thing you never believe. You
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: never believe a politician, never believe a word of politicians is.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: But that's why Bob Catter is purely just not a politician.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: And he's he's openly even said I think that he's
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Lebanese as well. But I can tell you what, I
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: believe every word he just said before when he said
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: he was going to smack that bloke in the mat
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: because that.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Was so believable.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: He looked like he was about a second away from
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: doing it. So that's the sort. That's the sort that's
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: the only politician that I believe is someone like Bob Catter.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable that is that was that's so entertaining. He's
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: such a loose cannon.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Bob, there is such a loose cannon.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: That's why when I when I threw to the story earlier,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: I started to say, you know, he went loose like
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: never before, and I had to correct myself because he
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: has been.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: That loose before. And the hat, I think he's getting
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: bigger and bigger each time. Here's the favorite. It just
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: has to be the all time favorite. Bob Catter looseness.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Have a look, Bobby.
• 44:55
  Speaker 23: People are entitled to the sexual proclimities.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, let there be a thousand blossoms boots off.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: So but I ain't spending any time warrant because in
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: the meantime, every three months a person has torn to
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: pieces by a crocodile.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: And I Queensland, I still don't understand how we went
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: from gay marriage.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: To getting hit by crocodiles.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: And the only thing wrong with that, the only reason
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: that doesn't become the greatest television grab of all time
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: was because he wasn't wearing his hat you had us
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: you could never draw him without a hat, could it.
• 45:33
  Speaker 23: Yeah, that's it. It's amazing how the shift in his
• 45:37
  Speaker 23: demeanor halfway.
• 45:38
  Speaker 22: Through one meaning sort of more giggly, and you know,
• 45:41
  Speaker 22: and then just the intensity just ratchets up. I mean,
• 45:44
  Speaker 22: there's something definitely slightly unhinted about Bloken and almost every
• 45:48
  Speaker 22: time he gets up in questioned time, if I'm watching
• 45:50
  Speaker 22: and I listen, I am flat out trying to understand
• 45:54
  Speaker 22: what on earth he is on itun I mean, it's
• 45:57
  Speaker 22: just it's meandering lines of of nonsense.
• 46:01
  Speaker 23: But there you go. He's a true original.
• 46:03
  Speaker 22: He's been there for a long time and you just
• 46:06
  Speaker 22: come to expect this sort of thing from Bob.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Well Mark, if I'm not mistaken here, I think you
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: do his voice, you in your cartoons, and you can
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: actually do an impersonation of Bobcatter without even answering a word.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Well, my favorite thing, and this is the key to
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Bob Catter, is that what Johanna's was talking about there
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: is it's the gearshift. So it can go from gigaly
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: to almost furious straightaway. So you can be like, you know, well,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: I might be able to do any pressure, but I'm
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: not doing it on television.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I just switch so quickly.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: And that the Bob Catter gearshift.
• 46:39
  Speaker 23: Is just the best alight.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: I'm going to try and squeeze in some of the
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: serious issues this week too, and Johannah's I might use
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: a couple of your cartoons to get there. Let's first up,
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: talk about the fact that Labor has finally taken action
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: against Iran, action that the Coalition has been calling for
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: for at least two years. And you've got to Tony
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Burke and Penny Wong and Elbow being dragged kicking and
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: screaming and saying no, sooner had the threat been identified
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: than they sprung into.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Action, Yeah, like after two years.
• 47:12
  Speaker 22: Yeah, Well, I mean I think that sort of typifies
• 47:16
  Speaker 22: their response to.
• 47:19
  Speaker 23: You know, everything we've seen since October the seven.
• 47:22
  Speaker 22: Really they've had They've been drag kicking and screaming to
• 47:24
  Speaker 22: every announcement, every yeah, every response. Really, it's never been timely,
• 47:34
  Speaker 22: it's never been forceful, it's always been equivocal and.
• 47:40
  Speaker 23: Half sort of half baked.
• 47:42
  Speaker 22: And when they finally get there, it's when it's when
• 47:44
  Speaker 22: things are so outrageously over the top that you simply
• 47:48
  Speaker 22: have to say something there's no way around it. But
• 47:51
  Speaker 22: that's what it took for them to take any kind
• 47:54
  Speaker 22: of firm action.
• 47:54
  Speaker 23: It's just mind blowing.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: It is mind blowing.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Wait until there's really no other option, and I'll get
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: you to pick up the theme here from another cartoon
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: of your Hannahs's where he's got the treasurer, the goofy
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Jim Charmers looking around for more tax doms with his
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: magnifying glass.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: And guess where he found them? In our house, in
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: our empty bedrooms.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, mate. He's going to rob these little old ladies,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: that's what he's doing. He can't wait with that big
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: old goofy smile. That's why I think a nasty rumor
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: going around and they call him gomer Pile around town.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: But he's actually he's not silly. He's actually way more sinister.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: And now he's armed by this little round table so
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: he can go and do whatever he wants, which is yeah,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: robin little old ladies. But I just wish he'd look
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: in the reflection of that little little magnifying glass and
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: see himself and realize that's where the real problem is,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: is the big spender in the reflection looking back at him.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I reckon he's gamer pile.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: I've run a few game of pile clips on this
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: program to show the likeness.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: He's a dead ringer. Just squeeze in one more of
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: your cartoons, your Hannahs. I love this one.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: On the Coalition trying to work out what to do
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: with net zero's whos and Lee's trying to work out
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: whether she can keep it alive.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: It's just a skeleton.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: Give up on it, give up on this time, pull
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: the plug on that zero. I think that might be
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: where they're heading. Thanks for joining us, Johannahs and Mark,
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: I appreciate it. We'll catch you next week. Just got
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: a little bit of time to share some of your
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: feedback from what I had to say last night about
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: this government and what it's been doing on Iran. And
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: one viewer says weak men bring hard times, while Roy
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: says Albow is still a student activist, Leopards don't change
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: their spots. Phillip says my morning coffee has more strength
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: than alban easy And finally, one viewer says, shame on
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: me for voting for this government. Well, yeah, there's a
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: confession from a viewer. You voted them in along with
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: thirty four percent of the population.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. I'll see you next week.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: Steve Price is coming up next, and don't forget five
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: o'clock tomorrow night, same time, same desk. Danika de Giorgio