Latest / Vox Novus with Victor Fuhrman / Molly Chanson - Yoga Wise
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- 0:05Vox Novus, the New Voice, Vox Novus, the New Dimension. Vox
- 0:15Novus thought and movement leaders who will share from their experience and offer tools to
- 0:21help us navigate our rapidly changing world. My name is Victor Fermont. Welcome
- 0:28to Vox Novus, the New Voice. May yoga practices free you from the
- 0:37past, embrace unconditional love for yourself and others, and align you with your
- 0:44authentic self. My guest this week on Vox Novus, Molly Chanson is a
- 0:50writer, teacher, and yoga instructor who shares the physical and ethical practices of
- 0:56yoga as a way to heal, overcome difficulty, and live a fulfilled life.
- 1:02Molly holds a bachelor's degree from the University of Wisconsin Madison and a master's
- 1:07degree from the University of Illinois at Chicago. In twenty nineteen, Molly completed
- 1:12her two hundred hour Yoga teacher training at Kripalu Center for Yoga and Health and
- 1:19continues to train toward her five hundred hour certification. Molly is founder of The
- 1:23Practice, an online yoga membership that offers yoga, writing and spiritual teachings based
- 1:30on the philosophies of yoga as a path for resilience, healing and transformation.
- 1:37Her website has Molly Chanson dot com, and she joins me this week to
- 1:41share her path and new book, Yoga Wise, three hundred and sixty five
- 1:47days of yoga inspired teachings to transform your life. Please join me in welcoming
- 1:53to vox Nobus. Molly chants and welcome Molly. Hi Victor, thank you,
- 2:00Thank you so much for joining us. Molly, Please share with our
- 2:02listeners your path and how you embraced the practice of yoga in your life.
- 2:08I started doing yoga when I was fifteen, and my mom had done yoga
- 2:14her whole life, and she started teaching me some poses in our living room.
- 2:19So that was my introduction to yoga. She was my first teacher.
- 2:23And there weren't studios or it wasn't the practice that we see today. But
- 2:30I kept doing yoga. I really enjoyed it, and and then I let
- 2:35it go for a while. I got married and had kids and babies,
- 2:38and the practice kind of fell to the background because there were other things happening
- 2:45in my life. When I was in my late thirties, I started doing
- 2:50yoga again. I really felt like everything was kind of I was losing myself.
- 2:58I was married, I had my kids, I had my career,
- 3:00but I was unsettled. I was unhappy or discontent and probably depressed and anxious
- 3:08and all those things that can happen in our lives. So despite everything kind
- 3:14of being put together in its place, like, I had followed this life
- 3:17path that I thought would fulfill me and sustain me, and that wasn't happening.
- 3:22And so I started doing yoga again really as a form of exercise and
- 3:28just kind of to calm down, knowing that I had done it before and
- 3:32it was a mind body practice and I thought that might help. And when
- 3:38I did that and started back up again with a regular yoga practice, I
- 3:43really became aware of how busy my mind was, and not just busy,
- 3:47but how negative it was. I was really had a really critical voice that
- 3:53I became aware of, and I thought, this is odd and this can't
- 3:58be healthy, and kind of what's going on. So I just kept showing
- 4:02up to yoga and to my mat and it was a place where I was
- 4:06experiencing myself and my emotions, not just the body, but other parts of
- 4:14myself. And so this is when Yoga became a spiritual practice for me,
- 4:18and I started realizing that it was more than a form of exercise and even
- 4:25more than a way to sort of calm down, but there was something else
- 4:28happening. So that's when I really dove into training and study and became a
- 4:33yoga instructor and a writer and all that stuff came with that. And you
- 4:38trained at Krypolo in Massachusetts. I've had the pleasure of visiting that beautiful facility.
- 4:43What was your experience like at Krypolllo. Yes, Krypollo. So I
- 4:48interestingly, my mom gave me a catalog from Kripolo when I was in high
- 4:54school, and she always wanted to go there and always talked about it.
- 4:58And the first time I went to Kripollo, I was forty years old,
- 5:01and I had always dragged that catalog around with me, always kind of hoping
- 5:06I would make it there because I live in Wisconsin. So when I finally
- 5:12stepped foot at Kripolo for the first time, I was there for a month
- 5:15to do my two hundred hour yoga teacher training. And you know, I
- 5:20described Kroppollo as a place that it's like a constant walking and meditation. I
- 5:27mean everything there is intentional. Everything there is sacred, from the meals they
- 5:33serve to the rooms that you stay in the grounds of course, the instruction
- 5:39and the classes, and it's just this living space that embodies all eight limbs
- 5:46of yoga, the yamas, the niyamas. There's permission, there's choice,
- 5:50there's different levels of classes, there's space to be there's cleanliness. I just
- 5:59it is exactly what I thought, but you know, also different and probably
- 6:02a little more than I expected. Did you find it to be also a
- 6:06healing experience for you? Absolutely? Yes, yes. Many of our listeners
- 6:13practice different forms of yoga. Please share your understanding of yoga. My understanding
- 6:19of yoga really comes from the sutras and patangales eight limbs. So yoga to
- 6:27me is as much an ethical practice as it is a physical body and breath
- 6:32practice. And because I am trained in Kripalu Yoga and that's my foundation and
- 6:40my training, that means I practice compassionate yoga. So for me, yoga
- 6:46is a practice where we listen to our bodies, we listen to our hearts,
- 6:53we practice self observation without judgment, which is what Swami Kripalu that kPa
- 7:00is named for always said, and so this is my idea of yoga is
- 7:05a loving, compassionate practice for ourselves and for the world. And that active
- 7:13compassion, as you said, is for the self also for the self.
- 7:16Also yes, yes, And I think when we heal ourselves, we heal
- 7:20all our relationships and everything around us, and especially the relationship with ourselves.
- 7:28Anyway, Yes, yes, it starts. It starts there. And you
- 7:31know, I think that we have trouble with this um healing ourself because we
- 7:38think of it as being selfish or indulgent. Um. You know, for
- 7:43me, my experience as a woman has been to um to really serve others
- 7:48and be there for others like family and children and and even in career and
- 7:54UM. But it starts with us. It starts with healing ourselves so that
- 7:58we're able to to give to others how we want to. And for many
- 8:03of us, that's the hardest lesson to learn, isn't it? It very
- 8:07much is Yes. I remember growing up as a child, my father became
- 8:11ill when I was eight years old, and I became part of his caretaking
- 8:13team with my mother, and for the first time in my life, I
- 8:16felt that he loved me, and it wired in my young mind that if
- 8:20you take care of others, you will be loved, which set a pattern
- 8:22for me in life, which it had to work on very hard my forties
- 8:26and fifties to change. Yes, yes, that all makes sense. Yes.
- 8:31Now, your first book was entitled Fallen Star, A Return to Self
- 8:37through the Eight Limbs of Yoga. What inspired this book? And please go
- 8:41more into the eight Limbs of Yoga? Sure? So I started writing Fallen
- 8:46Star before I knew it was going to be a book. I was writing
- 8:50as a way to make sense of my experience. I was getting divorced,
- 8:54I was getting sober, and I really felt like my life was falling apart.
- 9:01So I started writing as a way to make sense of that and cope
- 9:07with that. And at the same time, I was doing my yoga practice.
- 9:09So the writing and the yoga were happening at the same time on my
- 9:15path to healing and overcoming these experiences. And I started to notice how yoga
- 9:22was tied in with the eight limbs. And this was the first time I
- 9:26learned about the eight limbs. So I started reading books and learning about potentiallys
- 9:33eight limbs of yoga. So the eight limbs are a path to enlightenment,
- 9:37but honestly, I like to say a path to contentment or a path to
- 9:41an easeful life. Enlightenment might sound a little daunting to some. So the
- 9:48eight limbs of yoga include asana, which is the physical practice, but there's
- 9:54eight totals, so that's just one of them. So they have the eight
- 9:58limbs are the yamas and niamas, which are ethical practices and observances, and
- 10:05then there's asana and pranayama, which is the physical poses and the breath.
- 10:11Pratyahara is presence, Darana is focus, Diana is meditation, and Samadhi is
- 10:20the eighth limb, which is enlightenment. In my personal experience, embracing yoga
- 10:26in my early forties launched a series of life changing and enhancing synchronicities. Have
- 10:33you found that the following the path of yoga opens one to synchronicity? Absolutely?
- 10:39When we become more aware, we are noticing more. So yoga draws
- 10:46us, you know, we create this state of awareness on the body and
- 10:50with the breath, and it draws us in and always in life, obviously
- 10:54we're drawn outward into relationships and people and jobs and stimulation, and our senses
- 11:01are really focused on what's happening around us and in the outside world. So
- 11:07a yoga practice, when we're practicing the postures and looking at the breath and
- 11:11we're on our mat, we're drawn inside and as we're doing this, we're
- 11:16increasing prana. So in yoga, prana is the breath, it's also the
- 11:20life force and this energy that's coming from within. So when we're practicing yoga,
- 11:26we're cultivating in prana. We're raising that energy from within us, and
- 11:33in doing that, we enhance our creative abilities. We increase our intuition,
- 11:37We're able to notice our gut more and our instinct and so when we become
- 11:43more aware of ourselves with an inner focus instead of an external focus, we're
- 11:50able to witness synchronicities, and we're able to witness miracles, and these things
- 11:56are always happening, but when we're so focused on the external and everything outside
- 12:01of us, it's harder to see all that. So yes, I think
- 12:03a yoga practice welcomes in a deeper awareness of synchronicity, and then we're able
- 12:11to follow that energy. It's funny that the path that I started in my
- 12:16late thirties and early forties. Once I said yes to the path, another
- 12:20synchronicity would come, and another opportunity would come. And each opportunity I saw
- 12:24three choices. I could either dismiss it out of hand, say yes,
- 12:30that's interesting, but not right now, perhaps later. Or I could say
- 12:33yes with a big capital why and embrace it immediately, and then the next
- 12:37yes would come, and the next yes would come. Did you find the
- 12:39same thing? Yes, so one thing comes and we, like you say,
- 12:45we might make the choice to follow that energy. Or I love that
- 12:48you have three options because a lot of times we live in two of like
- 12:52it's yes or it's no, and there's infinite options always. But to have
- 12:56that third one of maybe it's just not right now is great. And yes,
- 13:01as soon as we follow one path, were brought to the next one
- 13:05and the next one, and life just keeps opening for me. That same
- 13:09thing has happened with my books, with my teaching, with other things in
- 13:16motherhood relationships, like everything just kind of I'm open. You're more open to
- 13:22what's arriving instead of too focused on how you want things to be, and
- 13:28therefore you kind of eliminate those other possibilities that might be there. And the
- 13:33other thing that's interesting to me personally is that my path, as I said,
- 13:37began my late thirties early forties, and you also started in that same
- 13:41age group, right, Do a lot of people do that? Yes,
- 13:43you know when I was thirty eight when this started happening to me, and
- 13:48I do think there's this time in our lives where that's not uncommon. I
- 13:54think that I think when I was younger, maybe I just wasn't open or
- 14:00able to embrace yoga as a path of healing or a path towards enlightenment.
- 14:05And so I hear that from a lot of people. And I had a
- 14:09colleague at the time. She was a business partner of mine, and we
- 14:16didn't have a yoga relationship, but during this time I learned that she had
- 14:22a spiritual practice and she said, oh, thirty eight is this is your
- 14:28year of awakening. This is the age that we go through this spiritual transformation.
- 14:33So you're right on track, and it made me feel a little better
- 14:37about everything that was happening. Absolutely, we have a lot of listeners who
- 14:41were in that age group in their late thirties early forties. Many women what
- 14:45advice would you give them about embracing another path? Oh, I think I
- 14:50think embrace it, try to embrace it, try to accept it. I
- 14:54think that sometimes when at that age we can have I at least had this
- 15:01idea of what my life should look like again focused on the external. And
- 15:07when bumps come along or things come up that we don't expect or that we
- 15:11don't want to be happening, it's really easy to think that everything's going wrong,
- 15:18or that we are doing something wrong, or that we have done something
- 15:20wrong, and this is a punishment that is coming to us because of our
- 15:24actions. And this is where the healing of the self really comes in to
- 15:28help us and transform us. So when things are happening that are not as
- 15:33you expected, or they're bad things or tragic things or losses that are coming
- 15:39in, to kind of shift your perspective and look at that as like this
- 15:43might be leading me in a different direction. And I don't know why or
- 15:48the outcome, but I'm going to work on accepting that this is happening and
- 15:54that it possibly probably I believe, is leading you to a new place that
- 16:00is better than what you expected originally. Trust that in your voice, yes,
- 16:06what inspired your new book, Yoga Wise, three and sixty five days
- 16:11of Yoga inspired Teachings to Transform your life. Yoga Wise is a culmination of
- 16:18the last seven years of my writing, my personal experience in life as a
- 16:25wife, mother, woman, and it's also obviously my study of yoga philosophy.
- 16:32So it's really a product of my experience and my practices along the way,
- 16:38not only yoga, but also my recovery practices, my knowledge of therapy
- 16:47and things that I did, my writing practice. All of this kind of
- 16:52came together to create Yoga Wise. And I also believe that, in addition
- 16:57to me do the work and the writing and bringing it all together in a
- 17:03way that's accessible to everybody, it also was divinely inspired. I really talking
- 17:10about synchronicities. I really experienced I was given a lot of space and time
- 17:15in a unique way so that I had time to write the book despite everything
- 17:18else going on in my life, and I was given a lot of internal
- 17:23guidance. Writing became a really spiritual practice, and I know that it wasn't
- 17:29just me doing all of that. Absolutely, do you ever have the sense
- 17:33when you're writing, especially spiritual work, that you're being inspired that it's actually
- 17:37coming through you rather than from you. Absolutely, yes, yes, and
- 17:41so it's a channeling almost way. It's a yes, well you know it's
- 17:47I haven't called it that, but but it is that. I mean,
- 17:52I think that when that happens, it might be hard for some of us
- 17:55to admit because it feels a little freaky or something. But yes, when
- 18:00I was writing Yoga Eyes, it really I was in a different state of
- 18:06awareness than if it was just me thinking I'm going to write this book.
- 18:10How would you describe your connection to spirit, to the one that you see
- 18:15that as the one? I think it is a lot from my heart space.
- 18:22So that connection for me happens in a very It starts with my body.
- 18:27It starts in my body and in my heart. And so when I
- 18:32experience that inner voice or sensations from my heart space, when I experienced the
- 18:41breath that helps me, those physical things helped me to connect to my higher
- 18:48self and my idea of a higher power or something greater than me around me.
- 18:55So I think it's a little bit of both. For me, I
- 18:57think that there's this higher self inside of us, but that's also that greater
- 19:03thing around us. In yoga wise, you organize the daily practices into chapters
- 19:11based upon yoga, philosophy, psychology, and recovery. Please share with us
- 19:15a little of each of these aspects. So I have many tools that I
- 19:22have picked up along the way in my healing journey, many tools in my
- 19:26tool kit now, and each of these has great value to me, and
- 19:32that's why they are all in the book. They all played a very big
- 19:34role and still do in how I overcame difficult situations and how I live my
- 19:41life today. And they're all still part of my life today. So the
- 19:45therapy was really big for me when I was going through going through divorce,
- 19:52going through addiction and recovery, and even just going through relationships. I learned
- 20:00I had never I had never had a therapist or a professional help like that
- 20:04prior to being thirty eight years old. And I learned a lot about communication
- 20:10and relationships and just aspects of that from a psychology perspective, and that was
- 20:17very helpful. Of course, my yoga practice was monumental in my healing and
- 20:23is part of my life today in terms of practicing self compassion and practicing service
- 20:30and observing observing the body and tuning into intuition and having that practice with myself
- 20:41and therefore with the greatness around me. And then recovery. I use the
- 20:47I use the twelve steps in my recovery, and there's also a fellowship in
- 20:52recovery, and so all of these things. The great thing that I think
- 20:57came, and one of the motivations for writing Yoga Wise, was that as
- 21:03I was using all these tools and doing all these things in order to heal,
- 21:08they all have a lot in common. So the eight limbs of yoga
- 21:14and the twelve steps of recovery have a lot of similarities. And they might
- 21:18be in a different order, or they might be called something different, but
- 21:22the practice is the same. So I really found that to be fascinating,
- 21:26and that's why my book is organized that way. And the subtitle is three
- 21:30hundred and sixty five Days of Yoga inspired Teachings to transform your life. Please
- 21:36explain to our listeners wading to those represent the three hundred and sixty five days
- 21:41are organized according to the twelve months, so it's three hundred and sixty five
- 21:45days of teachings. Each day might be Each day is one reading one page,
- 21:52so it's short, a few paragraphs. The idea is to read one
- 21:56page a day for the whole year, and there might be a lesson from
- 22:02yoga philosophy, there might be a yoga posture to practice, there might be
- 22:07a meditation, there might be a journal exercise. So each day there's a
- 22:12different practice. And in addition to being one page a day, which I
- 22:19wanted to do in order to be easy and consistent and accessible to anyone's schedule
- 22:26because it only takes a few minutes. But the other part of the book
- 22:30is that it's organized into twelve themes, and each of those themes go with
- 22:36the twelve months. So we stay on a theme for about thirty days or
- 22:38so, it's not exact, and then we move on to the next and
- 22:42they all go in order, so they build on each other. You start
- 22:45with saucha, which is cleansing, and then the book goes from there.
- 22:51My guest is Molly Chance in her book Yoga Wise, three hundred and sixty
- 22:56five days of Yoga inspired Teachings to tram form your life. Molly, please
- 23:02tell our listeners where they can get the book and find out more about you.
- 23:06My website is Molly Chantsen dot com and the books are available there and
- 23:11you can find out more about where I am and my yoga teaching, and
- 23:18I'm happy to hear from anyone. And you also offer an online class,
- 23:22Is that correct? I do? I have an online class called The Practice
- 23:26and that's all on the website as well. And we'll be back with more
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- 24:15on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week Molly Chance in her book Yoga Eyes
- 24:21three hundred and sixty five days of Yoga inspired Teachings to transform your life.
- 24:27Molly, most of us who practice yoga also practice pranayama or breathwork, but
- 24:33you will also share forms that may not be as familiar. Please tell us
- 24:37about socha and I'm going to say this wrong, Apari Graha, you said
- 24:44it right. Thank you. These are the two of the yamas and niyamas,
- 24:51which are the first two of the eight limbs of yoga. So saucha
- 24:56is one of the five niyamas, of which are the five observants or rituals.
- 25:00And saucha means cleansing and cleansing has to do with physical cleansing like every
- 25:08morning waking up and washing our face or brushing our teeth, things that we
- 25:12would think of as hygiene. And it also has to do with emotional cleansing
- 25:18or cleansing of our environment. So that would be your space around you,
- 25:22if you have a closet jammed full of stuff and it gives you a lot
- 25:26of stress every time you open the door. And it also can be emotional
- 25:32meaning are you know, are we full of junk from the past? Do
- 25:34we have regret or resentment or anger or sadness or emotions that we haven't dealt
- 25:41with? So anything that dealt with we want to cleanse and clear out and
- 25:45that open space for what is present today. So that's saucha. A parigraha,
- 25:52there are some similarities here, but a pari Graha is one of the
- 25:56five yamas and it means non attached or ungrasping. So non attachment is the
- 26:04practice of, you know, not being defined by our things or not letting
- 26:11our things define us rather as a good way to look at it. So
- 26:15if we're attached to something, you know, it can add this heaviness to
- 26:19us. And then that's where saucho or cleansing comes in. So we want
- 26:23to try to understand that our physical things, or our attachments, maybe it's
- 26:30attachment to an experience or a person, all of these things really are holding
- 26:36us back and keeping us stuck, and a pari graha or letting go might
- 26:41be the most challenging for many of us. What are the secrets of learning
- 26:45to let go? Well, we don't like change, so and letting go
- 26:51is always difficult. Yes, accepting that change is inevitable. Yoga teaches that
- 26:57the one thing that's constant is in permanence. So everything is always going to
- 27:03be changing, whether that's ourselves, growing relationships, changing people, aging,
- 27:11loss children, growing up. You know, life is constantly unfolding and changing.
- 27:17So one secret I would say is to not expect that an experience is
- 27:22going to last forever, or that an experience is going to be the same
- 27:26from one time to the next. So an example I use in yoga wise
- 27:32that's pretty tangible and maybe relatable is I went to a restaurant and I had
- 27:37the most amazing meal I had ever had, and it was delicious, and
- 27:41I just went on and on and enjoyed every bite. And a month later,
- 27:47I had a friend in town and I said, oh, my gosh,
- 27:49we have to go to this restaurant and we have to get this meal
- 27:52and it's amazing and you'll love it. And so we went back and I
- 27:57ordered the same thing and I started eating it, and it was not as
- 28:03enjoyable. It was not as delicious. I don't think anything was wrong with
- 28:08the food, or maybe it was, or maybe it was slightly different,
- 28:11but I experienced this profound disappointment in the fact that I had brought my friend
- 28:18along and tried to duplicate this experience that I had had the first time,
- 28:25and it just wasn't the same. And so we can apply this example that's
- 28:29pretty simple to a lot of things where we have a good experience and we
- 28:33attached to that and we want it to be that way forever. And it's
- 28:37just not always going to happen, and then you know, we close ourselves
- 28:41off to the next great experience or the new thing that's going to happen because
- 28:48we're so attached to something that we're afraid if we lose it or it doesn't
- 28:52happen again, that we're never going to feel that way again. I can
- 28:56relate to that in a different way. My thirties and forties, I had
- 29:03put on a lot of weight, and I came to the realization that the
- 29:07weight that I put on was not because I was hungry, but because I
- 29:11was building armor. I was protecting myself from being hurt. And when I
- 29:17came to that realization, I was able to then work on letting it go.
- 29:21That's really tough for a lot of people, isn't it. It's very
- 29:23tough. Yes, it's very tough. And our experiences are always pointing us
- 29:27to something that we need to acknowledge or learn, or like your example,
- 29:33something that learning something about ourselves so that we can let go. Is part
- 29:37of that practice of letting go is to kind of look at things and say,
- 29:42what is this here to teach me? Absolutely, that's part of recovery
- 29:47too. Isn't it. Yes? Yes, how may our listeners embrace yoga
- 29:52as a healing path? Yoga is more than a physical exercise practice. So
- 30:03the first thing I would say to embrace yoga as a healing path is that
- 30:08it starts in the body. There is a physical component to yoga, but
- 30:12the eight limbs, I would say to look at the eight limbs of yoga,
- 30:17and both of my books are excellent for giving a really accessible overview of
- 30:22the limbs and how they can be applied to life challenges or situations. So
- 30:30yoga is a combination of ethical practices, and physical practices and self awareness practices.
- 30:37And so when you do all of those practices, when it's not just
- 30:41a form of exercise, it does become a healing path. And in the
- 30:47course of doing the practices, can we focus on specific chakras and allow energy
- 30:52to flow if there's a blockage? Yes, So when we are tuned into
- 30:57the body and and if you are familiar with the chakras or it's going to
- 31:03happen anyway, whether you're familiar with the exact teaching or science behind it.
- 31:08But as we are doing a yoga practice, we might notice that there's a
- 31:14certain area of the body that feels tight or stuck or built up. So
- 31:18I've noticed it before in my throat. It can be physical pain, like
- 31:22if there's low back pain. A lot of my clients have low back pain.
- 31:27It can sometimes be something in the gut that just feels a little You
- 31:30might feel nauseous or just kind of not open in an area. So anytime
- 31:36you sense that there's a block somewhere in the body, and again that can
- 31:41be something that feels like pain or just discomfort. That is an area of
- 31:47energy that wants to move is making itself known so that it can be tended
- 31:52to and unstuck. And give us a couple of examples. For example,
- 31:57you had mentioned if something you had an issue with your back, how would
- 32:02you focus the energy to get that energy unstuck. The best way to focus
- 32:08energy on a certain area of the body is with the breath. So as
- 32:13soon as you if you're you could be in a posture, or it could
- 32:19just be while you're seated, but as soon as you start to notice heightened
- 32:22sensation or an uncomfortable sensation in the body, starting to take some deep breaths
- 32:30and focusing your attention on that area of the body is the best way to
- 32:36start to alleviate some of that. So it seems really simple, but the
- 32:40breath really starts to it calms the nervous system, and then it starts to
- 32:45move energy inside our body. And so that's the first thing and the simplest
- 32:52thing to kind of do immediately is to tune into that. And you also
- 32:57might be getting messages at that point of something else that's there. So even
- 33:01though you have pain in your low back and you start to breathe, and
- 33:07you probably have to do this more than one time, but once you start
- 33:10to breathe and focus on that area, you might notice that there's an emotion
- 33:15that comes up, or a message or some sort of piece of information that
- 33:20you weren't aware of. It might be that you actually feel sad about something,
- 33:25or you're angry at someone, or you know there's some other emotional thing
- 33:30happening. So the body and our emotions are so connected, and yoga creates
- 33:36this thread between the physical body and the emotional body. And so when we
- 33:40can tune into that area and use the breath in order to hold our attention
- 33:45and keep us from being distracted and really focus, there's lots of other things
- 33:49that might come up around that pain or discomfort. Let's share one more with
- 33:53the listeners. Let's talk about the root chakra and the sense of feeling ungrounded.
- 34:00Yes, So in my yoga practices, often wet we start standing or
- 34:06we start seated, and in both cases it's really important to ground ourselves and
- 34:13especially if there's some imbalance in the root chakra. So if you're seated in
- 34:19a chair, or you're seated on the floor, or you're standing, to
- 34:22feel that surface beneath you and start with a few breaths right there. So
- 34:28if it's different for a lot of people, it's difficult to tune into where
- 34:31is my root chakra? Where am I supposed to be feeling this? And
- 34:35a really easy way to target that area is through the soles of the feet
- 34:39or through your seat. And so when you're seated or when you're standing,
- 34:44to just breathe and feel that connection with the earth and that surface beneath you
- 34:50if you're sitting or standing, and that's a really great way to tune into
- 34:52that chakra. What is the yoga of presence? So when we're present,
- 35:01we're not guided by the past or the future, which means we're not in
- 35:07this experience of perception. Yoga has the intention to point us to what is
- 35:15true. And so as human beings, you know, we are guided by
- 35:22our mind, and the mind is constantly in a state of story. So
- 35:25the mind is always focused on something that happened in the past or something that
- 35:30is going to happen in the future, and the mind has trouble being in
- 35:34a present state of awareness. And this is where a yoga practice, when
- 35:37we're focused on the postures and the body, we're focused on the breath and
- 35:43how that feels moving through our body. That is bringing us to a state
- 35:47of present awareness. And if you've noticed, maybe you've had the experience when
- 35:52you're practicing yoga and you're focusing on your breath and you're trying to move through
- 35:57the postures along with the breath, it's very difficult for you to also be
- 36:01in a narrative or in a story about something and you might not even know
- 36:07it's happening, but after a while you think, oh, I haven't thought
- 36:08of that thing that's been bothering me for a while, or that thing that
- 36:12I'm worried about. So being present in our yoga practice and presence is one
- 36:17of the eight limbs, and it's so essential because we look at everything.
- 36:24Our view is sort of muddied, I say, by our perception, so
- 36:30we can perceive a relationship as good or bad. We have all these labels.
- 36:32We think of ourselves in terms of our roles and our identity, and
- 36:37really all of that takes us away from what is true right now, what
- 36:42is in this moment, right now, what is here for me? And
- 36:45so practicing the yoga of presence would be what is happening right now? And
- 36:52can I give myself a little break from my human perception because it's not always
- 36:57accurate being in the moment. Yes, I had a wonderful spiritual teacher who
- 37:02used to share that there should be an eleventh commandment, thou shalt have purpose.
- 37:08How many of the practices you share in yoga wise help us find or
- 37:14renew our purpose or purposes? Yes, so, dharma, dharma is our
- 37:21soul's purpose. And dharma is not one of the eight limbs of yoga,
- 37:27but it is in the ancient yoga texts called the Vedas. It's also the
- 37:32focus of the Hindu text the Bagavat Gita. And I like what your teacher
- 37:38is saying when we are seeking our purpose, we're following our energy. So
- 37:45this can be acceptance of a moment. Maybe we get ill, maybe a
- 37:51person we love gets ill and we have to focus on getting through that illness
- 37:58or caretaking the other person. This could be a career shift, it could
- 38:02be a life event. For me, it was motherhood. Motherhood was a
- 38:07big dharma moment for me. So dharma is our purpose. And a lot
- 38:12of times we think of purpose as a vocation or a career, and it
- 38:16certainly can be that, but dharma and purpose is also what is happening in
- 38:22the moment that needs my energy and my attention. And once we accept that,
- 38:28our sense of purpose brings us contentment, it brings us fulfillment. And
- 38:32this is a way to end our suffering. And yoga is a path with
- 38:37the intention of ending suffering. So the final chapter and Yoga Eyes I dedicated
- 38:43to dharma, and it's all about what is your soul's purpose? What does
- 38:47this mean? Is it a big deal like it sounds like, and it
- 38:52is and it isn't is the answer. But the final chapter is dharma,
- 38:55and all the chapters before the twelfth chapter to lead up to that practice.
- 39:01And if we transform our dharma, are we also transforming our karma. Dharma
- 39:08and karma are similar, So yeah, So dharma has to do with choices.
- 39:15So the choices we make are going to affect our dharma. So I
- 39:22can use my own experience in recovery as an example, but I do believe
- 39:27that being in recovery is part of my dharma. But I had to make
- 39:31that choice to get sober and do what had to be done and stay in
- 39:37recovery. So our choices affect Deepak Chopra has this wonderful quote. He says,
- 39:44your choice changes the future, and and it's so true. So when
- 39:49we are making these choices and we're focused on, you know, accepting what
- 39:54is happening right now. For me, it was accepting that I was addicted
- 40:00and I had to do something about it. And we make that choice,
- 40:01and that does transform our dharma. Does that heal our karma in terms of
- 40:07our past, our past lives? I think it definitely heals our future.
- 40:12So I think that making those choices that are in pursuit of our dharma do
- 40:16heal our future and change ourself, our relationships and everything ahead of that.
- 40:22Our new book is entitled Yoga Wise three hundred and sixty five days of Yoga
- 40:28inspired teachings to transform your life. We'll be back with more of Molly Jansen
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- 43:30Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week is Molly Chance and her book
- 43:36Yoga Wise, three hundred and sixty five days of yoga inspired teachings to transform
- 43:43your life. Molly, how may these practices enable us to rewrite our stories?
- 43:52When we look at ourselves, we become familiar with our wants, our
- 43:57desires, our longings. This might be a very unfamiliar practice for a lot
- 44:01of us to really tune in and ask ourselves what we want. Often we
- 44:07are doing things for the sake of others, or maybe for validation from someone
- 44:14in our family or someone else, or we're doing something for external validation or
- 44:20for financial gain or to kind of heal these parts of ourselves and we're focused
- 44:25on something external that we think will do that or just acceptance really can also
- 44:31be one of our motivations. So when we are looking at ourselves and getting
- 44:37familiar with this is what I want, or even just as simple as this
- 44:42is something I like to do. I like to garden, I like to
- 44:44cook. When we stop following some of these external things like maybe what society
- 44:50wants from us or what others want from us, we tune in and we
- 44:54connect with our own heart through yoga. And when we connect with our own
- 44:59heart, we learned that it's okay to answer that we are rewriting our story.
- 45:05He had talked about a pari graha before, or letting go. Is
- 45:08there an aspect of surrender in this that is letting go of preconceived notions about
- 45:15ourselves and our self worth. Absolutely so, letting go can be letting go
- 45:21over rolls or identity that we believe define us. And this is a big
- 45:28one. This was a big one for me. Allowing someone else to define
- 45:31who we are, or allowing an experience to define us. Something can happen
- 45:38that appears to be bad or really is tragic things are People talk to us
- 45:45and things are done to us, especially when it comes to abuse or trauma
- 45:50that are out of our control, and we can allow these things to define
- 45:55who we are, and of course we need to do the he and work
- 46:00to move through those things. But letting go of this idea that an experience
- 46:06or a person defines us at all, or that we're defined even by our
- 46:10job. We could lose our job and think, without this job, you
- 46:15know who am I? Or without this marriage, who am I? And
- 46:17so when we experience loss in our life, it's really hard to let go
- 46:22because we have an attachment to that person or that thing or that career as
- 46:27being a defining part of who we are. And that's where we're writing our
- 46:32story and letting go and surrender all come in. How may all of these
- 46:38practices lead us to personal satia or truth? Personal satia is permission to be
- 46:45who we are. So it does have to do with letting go regardless of
- 46:51others, validation, regardless of outcome, regardless of what something looks like on
- 46:58the outside. As you're answering your own personal truth and using that as your
- 47:04guide, I would say that's the ultimate path to feeling fulfilled and content truly
- 47:10from within and letting go of the myth that we've created about ourselves. Yes,
- 47:19yes, so that's a story. So often in yoga eyes, the
- 47:22chapter on rewriting stories is all about what are the stories that I have about
- 47:29myself and always kind of always kind of observing those as they can change.
- 47:34So a story we had about ourselves last year might be different this year.
- 47:39We don't have to keep holding on to these same stories all the time,
- 47:45and so it's beneficial to always kind of check those stories and look at them
- 47:50and say, is this true today? So the big question is unconditional love,
- 47:57especially for self achievable? Yes, a big and a great question.
- 48:04I have not figured out how to get rid of my critical voice. So
- 48:08as much progress as I think I have made, I think that that critical
- 48:15voice in our heads is kind of part of how our mind works and probably
- 48:20part of being human. But through yoga I am now able to practice more
- 48:25self compassion and I'm able to practice discernment. So knowing that my mind is
- 48:35functioning this way, knowing that that critical voice may or may not be true,
- 48:39just kind of being aware of when it comes up, so you know,
- 48:44an example, like if we're driving and we accidentally cut someone off or
- 48:51do something we're not supposed to be doing, or something we feel bad about
- 48:54right away. For me, when I make a mistake, that voice comes
- 48:58up and it's just like telling me all these things about myself. And being
- 49:04aware of that voice and that that's happening is the first step to this practice
- 49:08of unconditional love for ourselves. That we're allowed to make mistakes. It doesn't
- 49:14make us a bad person. We're going to make mistakes, and you know
- 49:19we can come back from those without letting it define the rest of our day
- 49:23or the rest of our life if it's a bigger mistake. The yoga of
- 49:29forgiveness, yes, self forgiveness. Self forgiveness is a really big one.
- 49:36Yes, yes, absolutely. And how made these practices promote unity of body,
- 49:42mind, and spirit. You brought up satya, the practice of truth,
- 49:46and this is a great way to think about yoga or yoke to yoke,
- 49:52which is the Sanskrit translation of yoga. And so when we're thinking about
- 49:58linking my body and spirit, we're not being governed by the mind alone.
- 50:05And we've been talking about this, but the mind in story or the mind
- 50:09creating a thought and then we planing to that thought, We go to it,
- 50:15we go to the story. We have a whole narrative, and then
- 50:17we're kind of just lost in this narrative mind or this story. And like
- 50:22I said earlier, it may or may not be true. So using the
- 50:28breath and becoming present that step of am I in story? Am I in
- 50:32the past? Am I in the future, or am I present? And
- 50:36a practice to be present is to start to watch the breath. So taking
- 50:42a few breaths, that advice of like if you're stress, take a deep
- 50:45breath. You know it's true, and it does work. When we start
- 50:49to notice our breath. When we start to breathe a little more deeply and
- 50:52we experience the breath as air entering the nose, moving through the body,
- 50:58we're present and more present and in the breath we're not in this We're not
- 51:04in this story. So in this way, the mind, body and spirit
- 51:07are all kind of working together. Because we can be noticing the mind making
- 51:12thoughts. We can choose not to run with that thought. We can choose
- 51:15not to get lost in the story. We're just watching the mind behave as
- 51:19it does. We're coming into presence. We're bringing our attention back to the
- 51:23breath. Okay, the mind is making a thought, I'm going to take
- 51:27another breath and notice my breath. And then in doing that through presence,
- 51:30the eight limbs teach that once we get present, we get present first,
- 51:35and then we continue our focus on the breath. And then with presence and
- 51:38focus, we're able to enter a state of meditation. And when we're meditating,
- 51:44we're opening ourselves up to spirit or higher guidance or our higher self.
- 51:49So we truly are yoga or yoking together body, mind and spirit. Yes,
- 51:54there are many forms of pramiyana. I love the alternate nostril breathing.
- 51:59What's your favorite? Oh, I love alternate nostril breathing. I love alternate
- 52:02nostril breathing. It's my go to. And I learned another one when I
- 52:09was at my praniama training Nick Cripollo, and that is alternate nostril breathing with
- 52:16a little pause at the top. And so this was it's sort of like
- 52:21alternate nostril breathing, but I call it like a step up. And so
- 52:24if you want to try it, you do the same practice. Alternate nostril
- 52:29breathing, but at the top of the inhale, just a little beat or
- 52:32a little pause before exhaling, And for some reason it just feels really calming
- 52:38to me. And I can't remember the sanscrit name, but we also practiced
- 52:43bellows breath, Yes, bastrika, where the stomach is expanded as you inhale.
- 52:50Yes, that was a lot of fun through that that helped you to
- 52:53calm down. It does help you to calm down. And that's the place
- 52:57where I think I probably was holding and tightening in my stomach. Maybe we
- 53:02do it all the time, maybe as a woman, maybe maybe it doesn't
- 53:07matter. But the permission to just let my belly go with the breath,
- 53:12I love it absolutely. What would you like readers to take away from me
- 53:15Yoga Wise three hundred and sixty five days of yoga inspired teachings to transform your
- 53:22life. I would love people to understand that yoga is a life practice.
- 53:29Yoga is not a posture practice or a form of exercise. Of course,
- 53:34those things are beneficial, and I think no matter what brings you to yoga,
- 53:37for me, it was, you know, I wanted a way to
- 53:40exercise, but I didn't want to run. I think. I think,
- 53:45no matter what brings you to your mat to answer that and then to be
- 53:50open and curious about what else is there, because there are many other aspects
- 53:54of yoga besides the physical practice, and you're still practicing yoga. So I
- 54:00always tell my students and my readers that if you have an injury or you
- 54:07have a limitation in your physical body, people come to me and they can't
- 54:10be on their knees or they can't get sit down and stand up and move
- 54:15around, and then they think yoga is not accessible to them, or yoga
- 54:19isn't a practice that they can do, and it's not true. So yoga
- 54:22is something for everyone. It doesn't matter if you've never done yoga before,
- 54:28how old you are, your religion, any belief system you follow. Yoga
- 54:34is a practice that is available to anyone, and it's something that you can
- 54:37weave into your life regardless of where you're at. So let go of that
- 54:44story that maybe yoga isn't for you. What's next for Molly Chanson? Right
- 54:50now, I'm doing many yoga and book events with the launch of Yoga Eyes,
- 54:54so that's taking up a lot of my time. I do have a
- 54:58full time job, during the week, and I have two boys who are
- 55:01going to be in seventh and eighth grade, and then it's on too high
- 55:06school. So I have a lot of energy in my household and I'm following
- 55:10that energy. I do have plans to write another book. I'm going to
- 55:15let you know, I'm going to let myself be guided and open to when
- 55:19that time is right. But right now I'm enjoying watching Yoga Wise on this
- 55:23path and following that. Her name is Molly Chanson. Her book is called
- 55:30Yoga Wise, three hundred and sixty five Days of Yoga inspired Teachings to Transform
- 55:36your life. Molly, please tell our listeners one more time where they can
- 55:39find your book and more about you. If you go to Molly Chantsen dot
- 55:44com, you will find my book and my yoga practices and my email to
- 55:50contact me anytime, and also you offer a class online. I also offer
- 55:54a class online called The Practice, and that is also at Molly Chanson dot
- 55:59com. Molly, thank you so much for joining us and sharing your path,
- 56:02your wisdom, and especially your open hearted love. Thank you Victor so
- 56:07much. I've enjoyed it, and thank you for joining us on vax Nobus
- 56:12I'm Victor, the voice Ferman of a wonderful week.