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Teen girl body found hidden under leaves beside tennis court - Plus: Serial killer stalking women in NC small town? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace on Sirius XM Triumph Channel
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  Speaker 1: one thirty two. At this point, detectives believed that Julie
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  Speaker 1: left on her own a board, and there is nothing
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  Speaker 1: to indicate that she's in any immediate danger. A beautiful
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  Speaker 1: young girl, just sixteen years old, Jolie goes missing. What happened?
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  Speaker 1: Her body has been found in an Alexandria park, a
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  Speaker 1: public park in Virginia, Fairfax County. I'm Nancy Grace, this
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  Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. What
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  Speaker 1: happened to this beautiful team girl, Jolie Musa joining me
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  Speaker 1: right now is a very special guest. It is Mark,
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  Speaker 1: Class victim's advocate, founder of Class Kids, a crime victim himself. Mark,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being with us. Mark. We
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  Speaker 1: know that Jolie's body has been found in an open park,
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  Speaker 1: a public park. It's Woodlawn neighborhood park on Manner Drive,
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  Speaker 1: found just beyond a set of tennis courts. And why
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  Speaker 1: I keep saying an open park, This is a public
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  Speaker 1: park where anyone could have seen what happened. Her body
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  Speaker 1: covered in leaves and debris. According to police, Mark Class
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  Speaker 1: you studied the case very carefully, what are your thoughts? Well,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, Nancy, and I'm a huge supporter of
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  Speaker 1: law enforcements, but I think that they absolutely and totally
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  Speaker 1: dropped the ball on this case. Jolie went missing on
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  Speaker 1: the twelfth. She was reported missing to the police early
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  Speaker 1: on the thirteenth, and they refused to take a report.
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  Speaker 1: They said instead that she was a runaway because there
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  Speaker 1: was no proof of anything else. On the fift the
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  Speaker 1: mother one, okay, wait, let me just stop you right there,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Class, because it's breaking my heart. We don't know
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  Speaker 1: if her life could have been saved. She's reported less
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  Speaker 1: than twenty four hours later. And instead of saying, unless
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  Speaker 1: we know different, she's a runaway, why not say, unless
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  Speaker 1: we know different, she's kidnapped. Because they were in way
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  Speaker 1: over their heads. I mean, they were using the default
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  Speaker 1: answer from that's what they that's what they told parents,
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  Speaker 1: and if children disappeared, police would say, well, she's probably
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  Speaker 1: a runaway and they would absolve themselves of any further responsibility.
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  Speaker 1: But that doesn't cut it anymore. That doesn't work anymore
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  Speaker 1: because we know much more about the disappearance of children,
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  Speaker 1: and we know that runaway children are at risk. Children
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  Speaker 1: that tend to populate the human trafficking ranks. So there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing correct about the response from law enforcement. It's got
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  Speaker 1: so bad, Nancy, that on the mother gave an interview
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  Speaker 1: to the local Fox television station where she was just bawling.
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  Speaker 1: The twin sister couldn't stop crying. They led the news
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  Speaker 1: with it, yet the police were still saying that she
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  Speaker 1: wasn't in danger. The family knew it, the media knew it,
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  Speaker 1: the public knew it, and the cops were completely oblivious
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  Speaker 1: to the fact that this child was in imminent danger,
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  Speaker 1: if not already did. You're right, Mark Class, my old friend,
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  Speaker 1: my colleague. That is exactly what the mom told Local
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  Speaker 1: Thoughts five. Take a listen to what Mark Class has
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  Speaker 1: just described. Their last call was the call to me.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening, and I don't care. I
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  Speaker 1: just want you to come home. Have you've done something
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  Speaker 1: and you don't feel comfortable talking to me about it,
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  Speaker 1: That's okay. You're not in trouble. If someone's with you,
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  Speaker 1: we don't care about you either. Just take her to
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  Speaker 1: a Walmart, take her anywhere, and just drop her off there.
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  Speaker 1: If you know any information about where my child is
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  Speaker 1: please please, please, please, pleave leave, please just let us
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  Speaker 1: know you're fine. I know you are, and I love
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  Speaker 1: you and I will see you soon. Julie's mother, Sereda,
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  Speaker 1: told Fox five she does not believe her daughter would
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  Speaker 1: have ever run away. She has no history of ever
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  Speaker 1: running away before. As a matter of fact, the mom says,
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  Speaker 1: the last time she saw Julie, her daughter, Jolie said,
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  Speaker 1: should be right back, and didn't even take her phone charger,
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  Speaker 1: didn't take any extra clothes with her. Nothing, No clothes,
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  Speaker 1: her phone charger, her iPad at nothing taken missing from
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  Speaker 1: the home. Take a listen to Jolie's mother, And it
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  Speaker 1: hurt me how it was handled. It hurt two. It
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  Speaker 1: is hurt because I know my child and I know
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  Speaker 1: that was out of character for her not to come home.
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  Speaker 1: If this girl were running away, you know, she would
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  Speaker 1: have taken some of her favorite things. No, nothing, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, the most important thing in a teen girl's
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  Speaker 1: life is her cell phone. She didn't even take her charger, Mark, class,
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  Speaker 1: you are dead on as usual. And you know, Mark,
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  Speaker 1: I hate. I hate to chip away at the cops. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I do, because I think overall they're good intentioned, but
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  Speaker 1: in these cases, and we've covered so many together mark
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  Speaker 1: where the child is deemed a runaway and they always
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  Speaker 1: end up dead. Every time we cover it, the child
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  Speaker 1: is dead and the police sat on their time's calling
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  Speaker 1: it a runaway. In this case, Nancy, it wasn't until
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  Speaker 1: a couple of days later, I believe on the six
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  Speaker 1: teams that law enforcement finally had a meeting with the
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  Speaker 1: FBI in the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
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  Speaker 1: And it was after that meeting that they said, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: maybe there is something more going on here. You shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have to be schooled by a nonprofit on how to
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  Speaker 1: treat a missing child case if you are a professional
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  Speaker 1: law enforcement agency. So this is something that is it's
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  Speaker 1: it's unconscionable, and it's something that needs to be corrected.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, the first Missing Child Protocol was written in
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  Speaker 1: the aftermath of police case almost twenty five years ago.
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  Speaker 1: By this time, every law enforcement agency should either know
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  Speaker 1: how to respond to one of these cases or know
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  Speaker 1: that if they don't know how to respond, they need
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  Speaker 1: to be FBI and immediately, because they always take them seriously.
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  Speaker 1: We are talking about a gorgeous young Fairfax, Virginia teen
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  Speaker 1: absolutely beautiful, the most beautiful smile I think I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: She lays the home saying she'll be back in an
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  Speaker 1: hour or so. She doesn't even take her cell phone charger.
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  Speaker 1: She's never seen my mom again. It's breaking my heart
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  Speaker 1: to hear it. Now you just heard my friend Mark,
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  Speaker 1: Class founder of Class Kids, discuss Polly's case. Mark. For
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  Speaker 1: those listeners that don't know what you're talking about, please explain.
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  Speaker 1: Was my twelve year old daughter, and she was hosting
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  Speaker 1: a slumber party with two girlfriends on the evening of
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  Speaker 1: October one in the home that she shared with her
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  Speaker 1: mother in Pedalo Ma, California. And at about ten thirty
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  Speaker 1: in the evening, a bearded, knife wielding stranger entered Paully's bedroom, bound,
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  Speaker 1: gagged and blindfolded the girls um and then he stole
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  Speaker 1: Pauli into the night. Her last words were please don't
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  Speaker 1: hurt my mother and sister. And we then spend the
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  Speaker 1: next sixty five days. When I say we, I mean
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  Speaker 1: my family. The city of Pedaluma, Sonoma County law enforcements
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  Speaker 1: the FBI, only to find that a resitious violent offender
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  Speaker 1: had kidnapped, raped, and murdered Paully within a two hour period,
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  Speaker 1: the very night that he had kidnapped her. That individual
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  Speaker 1: now was residing on California's death row. You know, Mark,
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  Speaker 1: I want to slow you down just one moment, because
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  Speaker 1: you just did something I always do when people ask me,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not prepared for it about my fiance's murder.
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  Speaker 1: For years, it would get me so distraught. Then I
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  Speaker 1: figured out how to tell the story quickly and concisely
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  Speaker 1: and move on. And the way you just deliver Polly's story,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Um. Just to hear you say that
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  Speaker 1: so quickly and concisely so you can then move on
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  Speaker 1: from it, it just broke my heart because I just
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  Speaker 1: think the world of you, and I just hate that
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  Speaker 1: you went through anything painful at the end of what
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  Speaker 1: you said that in two hours from the time Polly
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  Speaker 1: was taken from her mom's home at a sleepover for
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  Speaker 1: Pete's sake, within two hours, it was over. In this
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  Speaker 1: case we're analyzing, Mark, Jolie left on the twelve. The
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  Speaker 1: parents reported her missing in less than twenty four hours,
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  Speaker 1: probably hoping the whole time. Well, you know, she got
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  Speaker 1: with her girlfriends and they've gone to the mall. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I just can't find her, or you know what, I
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  Speaker 1: bet they went to the mall. I bet they went
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  Speaker 1: to a late movie. That's what they're doing. And she
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  Speaker 1: has not called home. She's in so much trouble. Then
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I bet she's spent the night at
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  Speaker 1: so and so's and they start calling the friends and
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  Speaker 1: by about four o'clock in the morning, they're like, where
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  Speaker 1: is she? And then they call police. I guarantee that's
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  Speaker 1: how that night went down. But you said in two
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  Speaker 1: hours it was over when Polly was taken out of
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  Speaker 1: her home. You know, I keep my own because of Polly. Mark.
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  Speaker 1: I do not even have the children in the house
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  Speaker 1: without the alarm on at any time. I don't care morning,
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  Speaker 1: noon or night. Because of what I have learned from you, Mark,
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  Speaker 1: class two hours it was over for Polly. Look, by
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  Speaker 1: the time the police sit down and talk with the family,
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  Speaker 1: it's the sixtin, Mark, how many hours have passed. It's
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  Speaker 1: just unbelievable, you know. And it's not just Paulie. I
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  Speaker 1: mean seventy children that are going to be murdered as
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  Speaker 1: a result of an induction are dead within the first
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  Speaker 1: three hours. That's why there is no time to lose
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  Speaker 1: and why there is no no acceptance of incompetence in
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  Speaker 1: these kinds of cases. It just shouldn't be that way anymore.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a case where everything fell apart. You
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  Speaker 1: know what, you you are just so much stronger than
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  Speaker 1: I am. You are because you are right to business
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  Speaker 1: in trying to solve the Jolie Moussin case, as you
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  Speaker 1: should be. And I'm hung up and the pain and
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  Speaker 1: it's suffering the family is going through. You know, we
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  Speaker 1: are analyzing what happened. We know the little girl is dead.
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  Speaker 1: Her body has been found near Tennis Courts in a
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  Speaker 1: public park, but there is no suspect. No one has
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  Speaker 1: been arrested in this case. Police defending their actions. When
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  Speaker 1: Joe was reported missing on Saturday, she had already been
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  Speaker 1: gone for a day. She had left her home and
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  Speaker 1: seen on camera under circumstances that not did not seem
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  Speaker 1: to be unusual. The family contacted us the following day
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  Speaker 1: when they realized and felt that Jolie's actions were no
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  Speaker 1: longer the norm for her. Our officers responded, took an
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  Speaker 1: initial report and immediately entered her into the national database.
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  Speaker 1: They conducted a number of interviews and a number of
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  Speaker 1: searches of friends, homes and contacted friends and some local
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  Speaker 1: hangouts without success. But at that point still nothing appeared
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  Speaker 1: to be of a nature where we felt she was
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  Speaker 1: truly in danger. Was no indication of an abduction or
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  Speaker 1: anything like that at that time. The next day, patrol
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  Speaker 1: officers continued that and we continued to follow up any
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  Speaker 1: leads and all the information provided by the family on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: That continued through the holiday. On Tuesday, we met with
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  Speaker 1: people from the National Center for Missing Exploited Children and
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  Speaker 1: the FBI. As we met with them and we discussed
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  Speaker 1: our various options. It was at that time with Jolie's
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  Speaker 1: um literally falling off the electronic radar, no communication, no
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  Speaker 1: social media, no postings like that, and talking with the family,
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  Speaker 1: this clearly was now something that was beyond normal. At
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  Speaker 1: that point, we upgraded her status as an endangered missing
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  Speaker 1: juvenile and our efforts continued. Our efforts continued every day
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  Speaker 1: through interviews, searches, web searches, search warrants, legal process through
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  Speaker 1: social media and such, and that continued up until the
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  Speaker 1: day that she was found and continues beyond um. I
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  Speaker 1: will tell you that on that Tuesday, when we uh
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  Speaker 1: spoke with the FBI and the National Center for Missing
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  Speaker 1: Exploited Children. The number of leads that we had had
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  Speaker 1: both viable and um leads that did not pan out,
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  Speaker 1: took us to places as far as Philadelphia, up and
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  Speaker 1: down the East Coast. UH. We were in contact with
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  Speaker 1: the Old Dominion University Police, the Norfolk Police, the FBI
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  Speaker 1: in the Norfolk Field Office, the FBI in the Philadelphia
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  Speaker 1: Field Office. This case took a lot of turns, with
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  Speaker 1: a lot of incoming information and a lot of leads
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  Speaker 1: to follow up and continues have just an enormous amount
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  Speaker 1: of leaves and we the Police Department homicide detectives are
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  Speaker 1: continuing to follow up just an enormous amount of information
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  Speaker 1: that has come in from the public and leads that
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  Speaker 1: we've developed. But Mark Class, the hours they lost, as
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  Speaker 1: they insisted she was a runaway, could have saved her life. Mark,
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  Speaker 1: it very well could have. There's no question about that.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why you have to know what you're doing,
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  Speaker 1: and if you don't, you get a hold of somebody
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  Speaker 1: that does know what they're doing, and in this case,
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  Speaker 1: that would have been the FBI. There in Alexandria, Virginia.
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  Speaker 1: That's where the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children
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  Speaker 1: is headquartered. I mean, my goodness, after should be ground
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  Speaker 1: central for missing kids in America. And here's a situation
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  Speaker 1: where they just failed miserably. But I guess, Nancy, if
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  Speaker 1: there's any kind of a silver lining, it's the fact
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  Speaker 1: that several days later, the mother again went on the
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  Speaker 1: Fox five and she talked about the fact that she
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  Speaker 1: now had to be the voice for her child, that
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  Speaker 1: she had an unintended question her life now, which was
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  Speaker 1: to be the voice for Jolie and to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that what happened to her doesn't happen to other children,
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  Speaker 1: so that she'd gotten so that she hadn't died in Vain.
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  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, take a listen to Jolie's mother.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's Jolie, this tragedy can bring something good, then
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to make sure that my child did not
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  Speaker 1: die in Vain. In addition to being Janet's mother and
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  Speaker 1: Jolie's mother, I am now going to strive to be
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  Speaker 1: a voice for so many families that a child will
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  Speaker 1: lob out the door and never come home and they're
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  Speaker 1: just labeled as a runaway in their business, and that's
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  Speaker 1: not okay. The worst outcome that could possibly happen has happened.
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  Speaker 1: So at this moment point, I'm in it for the
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  Speaker 1: long haul. This is the first time you don't see
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  Speaker 1: me on DV for the last time. I'm in it
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  Speaker 1: for the long haul because don't want anyone else to
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  Speaker 1: go through what my child went to. Let me switch
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, because she was just a little and
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  Speaker 1: I thought this couldn't possibly happen to me because I'm
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  Speaker 1: so cautious and I'm always talking to them, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so fearful, and it happened. The search was on
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  Speaker 1: at that point for Jolie Moosa, a desperate search all
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  Speaker 1: across Alexandria, Virginia and Fairfax County. The police asking for
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  Speaker 1: the public's help to find the missing team sixteen year
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  Speaker 1: old Joe Lee last seen the twelve, but it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: until the sixteen that police get serious and finally realized
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  Speaker 1: she's missing. Joining me right now, Lee Egan, Crime online
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  Speaker 1: dot Com reporter Lee, what can you tell us? How
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  Speaker 1: was the body found? So? The body was found um
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  Speaker 1: in the park near tennis courts, buried under brushes and leaves.
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  Speaker 1: It was very really well to where, you know, just
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  Speaker 1: walking by you wouldn't be able to see her, but
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  Speaker 1: it was still an open view. It was where if
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  Speaker 1: somebody happened to rape that area, they would find her.
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  Speaker 1: Officers discover Jolie's body in Woodlawn Park, less than a
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  Speaker 1: mile from her home. That is where the body was discovered.
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  Speaker 1: Her body, her dead body found behind a pair of
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  Speaker 1: tennis courts, covered in leaves and debris. Not fully buried,
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  Speaker 1: but covered in leaves and debris. To Ashley Wilcott, lawyer
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  Speaker 1: and child advocate, that tells me a lot the mode
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  Speaker 1: of disposal of the body. First of all, she didn't
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  Speaker 1: make it far from her home, and second of all,
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  Speaker 1: it was a disposal of convenience. It reminds me of
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  Speaker 1: the Robert Blake case where his wife who was killed
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  Speaker 1: right behind the Italian restaurant where they were going to
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  Speaker 1: dinner that evening. She her body was left right there
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  Speaker 1: and the and the murder weapon was just thrown in
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  Speaker 1: a dumpster because the killer never really seemed to leave
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  Speaker 1: the scene. And here it says to me her body
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: was not transported very far at all and was just
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: you know, barely covered up with leaves and debris. No
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: no grave, dug, no hole, dug She wasn't dumped down
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: a ravine or put in garbage bags and left at
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: a dumpster. Why what does that say to you, Ashley?
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: The same thing that this was a crime of convenience,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: meaning that someone chose her as the victim, did what
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: they wanted, killed her, throw her out quick, not deliberately
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: planned for a particular victim to say I'm gonna do
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: these things, and then disposed of the body here. Crime
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: of convenience. Somebody got to her, murdered her, probably within
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: the three hour window that you've already heard is a
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: statistical um case with a lot of these abductions, and
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: then just threw her out. Back to Mark, Class, founder
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: of Class Kids, Mark, what does this scenario say to you?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Her body found less than a half a mile from
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: her home, not really hidden very well in a public park. Well,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: it tells me a couple of things. First of all,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: it tells me that somebody lured a child out of
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: her home and then murdered her and then just tossed
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: her into the park and walked away as if nothing
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: had happened. He couldn't have he she couldn't have cared
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: less about this individual. Obviously, wandered her dead. I think
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: it was I think it was planned. I think that
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: this is exactly what this individual had in mind when
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: he lured her out of her home in the afternoon
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: so that he could murder her. We're also looking at
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: information on her cell phone Mark Class. Before she left
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: the house, she apparently received a phone call from a
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: cell phone that payed at that park mark class. Just awful.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: You know, this a where I become emotional about these things,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: because if the child can't be safe in their home,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: where in the world can they be safe? You know,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: these guys use binary code to get into our children's bedrooms.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: They don't even have to lurk in the bushes anymore.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: All they have to do is find a way to
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: lure the kids to them, and then they take care
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: of their evil intention. It just is the worst possible thing.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: And there's a special place and help for people that
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: do things like this. You know that as well as
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I do. Boy do I now get this scenario. Mark.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: She was sitting at home with her twin sister doing
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: her twin sister's hair, And I mean, I just think
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: about how many millions of times I've just sat there
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: and done Lucy's hair over and over again. Um. She
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: gets a tech that says, and let me throw this
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: to you, Vincent, the old private investigator joining us. She
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: gets a text, she receives the Texas says Okay, I
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: gotta go and leaves. Um the high school sophomore never
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: seen alive again. I mean, in my mind, it's got
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: to be connected, Vincent, Yeah, absolutely, Nancy. I mean, you
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: get the phone call from a phone at the park
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: where she was found, to get the text message. More importantly,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: later that night, her sister receives a text that says,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I'm going to a party three hours away. But yet
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: police never said, well did she come back to get
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: a change of clothes, to get things? Like you mentioned
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: her charger. So you had all of these red flags
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: there on the day she went missing. Unfortunately they weren't
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: followed up on, and now we have the tragic ending
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: to this case. You know, it's interesting that you brought
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: that up, Vincent. I want to follow up on that. Ashley. Uh,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: we're both getting into iPhone territory with our children. Your
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: your daughter aged ten, just like Lucy. Here's the that
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: cell phone she had with her when she left. I
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: find it very difficult to believe that a teen girl
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: would wear the same clothes all day long, just like
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Vincent Hill is accurately pointing out, that's why he's the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: private eye. She never came home for a change of
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: clothes or to freshen up or anything. She had not
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: mentioned this party to anybody. I think somebody else sent
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: that text that she was going to a party. There's
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: no evidence she ever ended up at a party. I
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: completely agree with you, especially given the fact her body
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: was located so close to the home. And how easy
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: is it for the person who abducted, killed, murdered her
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: to then say, Oh, I'm gonna cover my tracks, I'm
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: gonna throw him off. I'm just gonna shoot this little
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: text to say, oh, yeah, I'm headed to a party,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: so they think, you know, she's going to a party
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: and she's a runaway. I completely do not believe that
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: she sent that text either, you know, Mark Class. Another
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: clue is that that evening her mom mom, Jolie's mom,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: missed a cell call from her daughter. I think whoever
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: had whoever killed her, that she was already dead, that
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: they went through most recent texts and texted the sister. Hey,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I'm going to leave for a party three hours from
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: here in Norfolk. That's not true. And then later just
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: sent a call to the mom that was missed, didn't
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: leave a message, just dial the number and let it
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: ring and hung up. What about that, Mark Class? I
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: totally agree. I think that that's exactly what happened. The
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: individual that did this had a plan and laid out
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: the plan, gave themselves some extra time, um by sending
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: that text and by making that unresolved phone call, and
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: uh walked away from this poor tiny little girl that
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: he had buried under leaves in a park. You know,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking it through. It's so cold and calculated,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Mark Class. The cover up, the cover her up, sending
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: these send sending these text messages, and making this call
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: from the dead girl's own cell phone to mislead her family.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: That's cold, Mark, It's a cold So it's a it's
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: an individual that is filled with hatred and an individual
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: that needs to be taken off of the streets and
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: kept off of the streets. In fact, I would say
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: that this is a kind of a crime to rises
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: rises to to the death panel. Oh absolutely, Because Ashley Wilcott,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: lawyer and child advocate. We know very well that a
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: suspect's behavior not only before enduring, but after the act
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: can be brought into evidence, such as covering up, misleading
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the family so they would not find her body. All
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: that evidence can come in at trial, and Mark Class peggnant.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: It's a cold soul that would mislead the family and
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: send fake text to her twin sister. And I promise
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: she that same soul would do this to any other child.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: It would not end with this child. Right now, every
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: attempt possible is being made to determine who made the call.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Now the cell phone goes back, apparently to a twelve
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: year old little boy. He says a man approached him
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: in the park where he the little boy was shooting
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: basketball and asked to use the phone, and that he
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: made the call to Jolie. Is this true? If so,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: how can we ever find him? Mark Class? Another thing,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: if the herse if her Jolly's cell phone was used
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: to hide what had happened, to obscure the facts, it
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: can at least be pained. At the time she texted, well,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: her cell phone texted her twin sister, and then later
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: that night called the mom. Right, absolutely, yeah, there's cellphone
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: technology and cell phone fordsic Sciences has come a long
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: long way over the course of the years, and I
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: believe that the authorities, the FBI, with their vast resources,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: should be able to get to the bottom of exactly
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: what happened with the cell phone and perhaps even who
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: used the cell phone. Now the question arises, is the
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: man who borrowed the twelve year old cell phone actually
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: a boyfriend, a former boyfriend, really a stalker of Joel's
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: What do you know? Lie in a nutshell. See, they're
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: holding this seventeen year old boy. They're not releasing his
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: name because you know he's too young. But they're holding
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: hand for an assault charge, a previously unreported assault charge
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: against Jolie. And they're saying he is a person of
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: interest in her murder, but he hasn't been named a
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: suspect as of yet. Take a listen, he's being charge
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: at the at this juncture with a petition charging him.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: What's felling the assault? And let me clarify that and
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: reiterate that the question is so he has not charged
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: with her death at this juncture. That is correct, He
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: is not charged with with her dead. It was a
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: prior incident, a prior incident that was um discovered during
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the course of this investigation that had reported. So as
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: of now, no arrest in the case. Take a listen
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: to Jolie's mother. Now, I have met him. He has
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: come to my house. I have met him, Mark Class.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: What do you make of it? Well, I make of
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: it that there's a twisted and evil individual out there
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: who has absolutely no qualms against murdering a little girl
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: that was five ft two inches tall and weighed a
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: hundred and four pounds. He beat her, he left her,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: he lured her out of her home, and then he
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: murdered her. I don't know that it gets much more
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: dangerous than that, Nancy. And then to obscure the fact
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: by texting, texting the sister and the twin sister says,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: she gets this text that Jolie was going to Norfolk
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: for a party quote, and I'm like, isn't that more
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: than three hours away? I mean, she knew this wasn't
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: right for her sister. Take a listen, knowing that she's
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: at rest, okay, but I guess being selfish and one
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: in her here, that's it's a bit of sleep. It
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: definitely like makes me wonder if there's like a serial
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: killer or something or I don't know, but that's really
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: close to home. A gorgeous young woman disappears in a
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: small town. At first, no one thinks anything of it,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: but when you look at it in perspective, it's very alarming.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: This young woman disappears in a town where bodies have
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: been turning up, the deepening mystery surrounding five dead women,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: three recently. Five dead women, three recently in the very
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: small town of Lumberton, North Carolina. Right now, Pamela for
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Crime Stories, investigative reporter joining us from North Carolina. One
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: by one, Pamela. Decomposing bodies of women turn up dubbed
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: across the North Carolina town, five women in all, and
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: then a desperate search for a twenty year old who
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: seemingly vanished off the face of the earth while visiting
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: her mom. When you look at the tally, there five
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: women dead in all. Let's just start with the three
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: most recent. What's happening, Pamela. That is a very good question,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and that's what police want to know. What is happening
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: and if anybody has any information, Because the investigations still continued,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: they don't know how these bodies died. They don't know
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: what happened to them. Specifically, there's three of them that
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: were found in a four block radius of Lumberton, North Carolina.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: April eighth, One woman was found on Peachtree Street in Lumberton,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: North Carolina, while another was found in a dumpster on
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: East fifth Street the same day. They were found, both women,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: their bodies so badly decomposed that it took at least
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: ten days for police and medical examiners to even identify them.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: They're known as Rhonda Jones and Christina Bennett. They're both young.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Then on June the third, a body was found in
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: the yard of an abandoned house. This one would be
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: on East eighth Street in Lumberton. Her name is Megan
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Oxen Dine. Her body was found naked, gagged, and bloodied.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: That's according to our fan. The police aren't releasing that
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: information yet to the public. But what's so alarming These
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: bodies were found within a four block radius there in Lumberton,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: and it has people on edge. They don't know if
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: there's a serial killer out there at this point. Now,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: another woman has gone missing from this North Carolina town
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: where five others dead. Three. Most recently, it's twenty year
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: old Abbey Patterson who vanishes from her home in Lumberton
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: while she was visiting her mom. Now Pamela for our
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: investigative reporter is telling us about Christina Bennett, thirty two,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: found dead inside an abandoned home. That's Christina Bennett. Same day,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Rodda Jones, early thirties found dead in a dumpster outside
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Her friend Megan Oxendine says this, I mean, I don't
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: comprehend and stuff like this's too good. I don't understand
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: how somebody can do somebody's child, mother, niece. Right now,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I doubt or nothing. She's just quiet. She didn't really
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: messed with too many people now understand the irony of this.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: After the friend of Rhonda Jones, who was dead in
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: a dumpster, speaks to local media about her best friend's death,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: she Megan Oxendine, just twenty eight years old, is found
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: naked dead in the woods by the roadside. So far,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: police have not established a cause of death for any
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: of the three women. I'm I'm overwhelmed right now, Pamela
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: for a Crime Stories investigative reporter joining us that a
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: co d a cause of death has not been established.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Yet another woman annishes in the small town in North
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Carolina where we know five others have been found dead
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: in very mysterious circumstances. Abby Patterson has now not been
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: seen for several months, vanishing from her family's home. She
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: told her mom she was going out to just run
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: a few errands and will be back in about an hour,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: but never came back. She's just gorgeous. She was last
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: seen getting into a friend's car and was never seen again.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Now we know police have interviewed the friend, but as
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: of now, no charges. Pamela for what do we know
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: about getting in the car with a friend to go
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: run errands? And I'm talking right now about missing Abby Patterson,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: twenty years old. We just know she was last seen
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: getting into a brown Buick in the same area that
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: these women women disappeared, Ninth Street in Lumberton. She had
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: come up from Florida to visit her mother a couple
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: of days before she disappeared. And as you said, she said,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go run some errands. I'll be back in
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: an hour, Love you. Mom left and hasn't been seen since.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Now I will say that Captain Terry Parker with the
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Lumberton Police Department says that he's sure the case is
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: not related to the females whose bodies were found. But
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I can tell you, Nancy, the residents of Lumberton aren't
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: too sure about that, simply because she disappeared in the
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: same area where these women were found, where their bodies
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: were found, And as I said earlier, they're wondering if
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: the Siller serial killer is out there targeting young women
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: in their area. Well, there's no coincidence in criminal law, period.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: And the fact that Megan Oxendine was speaking to local
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: media and then three weeks later she's found dead as well,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: No was she onto something? Did she know without knowing
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: who her friends killer was. Take a listen now to
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: what police say. We have been working countless hours following leaves,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: conducting interviews, and gathering evidence to determine what happened to
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: the women. In June of last year, we asked the
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: FBI to assist our department with our investigation into Christina,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Rhonda and Meghan's death, and we owe it to them
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: to fully investigate and uncover the facts of what happened
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: to each one of them. As police chief and a
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: member of the community. I want to know what happened
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: to Christina, Rhonda and Meghan. I also understand there is
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of uncertainty, concerned and even fear right now.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Let me assure you that we are committed to finding
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: out the answers. At this point, we do not know
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: if this is a criminal matter, or whether there is
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: another explanation for why these young women are gone. We
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: hope you will help us. If you saw Christina, Rhonda,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Megan in the days, months, weeks leading up to their depths,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: we need to talk to you. As I said earlier,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: all three women were mothers, they were daughters, sisters and aunts.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: They were loved and they are missed, but they are
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: not forgotten. Will we get to the truth, but we
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: need your help joining me now. Ashley Wilcott, lawyer and advocate.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Vincent hild private investigator, straight out to Ashley Wilcott. Ashley,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I mean this town. I come from a town about
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: this size, from a neighborhood, a rural community about this size.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: It's very difficult for me to believe that all of
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: these cases are not related. Five and all and now
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: another missing three, most recently two of them best friends,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: but their murders, separated by three weeks. Ashley, I do
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: not believe either, Nancy, that this is coincidence. I agree
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: with you, there's no such thing when it comes to crimes.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I think the question is going to boil down ultimately
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: to this, is I bet a person deemed a serial
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: killer at some point in the future, regrettably is what
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I foresee or that's my opinion, is going to happen.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: And then the question is going to become is it
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: someone who knows this group of women or these women,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: or how could you not know each other in a
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: town that small Ashley's I mean, for all, I know
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: that killer went to high school or community college or
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: local college with them, or their brother or sister sings
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: in the local choirs, the trash pick up man. I
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know, but how could they not
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: know each other? And as far for for them saying
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: they don't think that Abby Patterson's disappearance is not connected.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: She's been gone, let's see, I'll you November, December, January.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: She's been gone now five months at the least. How
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: can they say that's not unusual. You just drop off
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: the map, don't contact your family, your boyfriend, you don't
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: use your cell phone, your credit cards, your a t M. No,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: she's dead, you know. I hate it for the family.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: You'd like to hope she's missing and will be found.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: But with these facts, let's be honest. With these facts.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I do not think there's any chance that she is
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: not dead. To Vincent Hill, very well known private investigator, Vincent,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: what do we need to be doing right now? First
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: of all, I know you got to bring in experts
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: that can determine the cause of death. I know it's
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: difficult when there has been a decomposed body. I know that.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: But out of all the bodies, we can't get one
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: call cause of death, not one. Yeah, that's the most
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: important piece to this whole thing, Nancy. It has all
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: of the elements of the serial killer. We know that,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: but we need to know a cause of death because
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: then we can establish more of a motive, more of
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  Speaker 1: a of an m O to this killer, because obviously
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  Speaker 1: he likes to he or she likes to target young
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  Speaker 1: women in the area. So we need to know the
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  Speaker 1: cause of death. Where Abbey's case, I'd be looking for
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  Speaker 1: this brown buick that picked her up and tracking her location.
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  Speaker 1: Her last known location, whether it be her cell phone,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: at m card, anything that was used in that area.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe I can pull up surveillance footage, are a
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  Speaker 1: witness or anything of that nature. To Ashley will Caught,
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  Speaker 1: lawyer and advocate, Ashley, was it signal to you that
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: now the FBI has been brought in. I think that
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: it's the local law enforcement admitting it's a bigger issue
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: than one person has been found dead or deceased. It
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: means you've got a serial killer, You've got a situation
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: where or there are multiple murders and they need help.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good thing they called an FBI. Well, the
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: family of the third most recent woman found dead in
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: the small town of Lumberton, North Carolina, states very clearly
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: quote she was murdered. They won't believe otherwise, they say,
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  Speaker 1: until police tell them differently. And I'm referring to Megan Oxendine.
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  Speaker 1: Her body found near an abandoned home and the central
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  Speaker 1: area of the city downtown Lumberton, the same area where
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: bodies of two of the five other women were found. Again,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: police have not said how the woman died or if
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: their deaths are related. What is curious, though, what I
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  Speaker 1: don't understand, Ashley Willcott is why we're not getting a
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: cause of death, especially on Megan Oxendine. She had not
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: been missing that law before her body was found. And
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: that's my question. Do we not know the cause of
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  Speaker 1: because it hasn't been released, or they really unable to
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: determine the cause of death. And if they are not
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: yet able to determine cause of death, then we can
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: rule out some things. Nancy. Clearly that means it wasn't
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: a blunt force trauma that beat the skull. And clearly
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: it means it likely wasn't a shot um from a
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: gun that would leave the type of injury that the
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: cause of death could be easily determined. So maybe it means,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know, something ingested. Maybe it means strangulation and
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: that part of the body was decomposed. I just I
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: don't know which of the two it is. Take a
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: listen first to Megan Oxendine sister. It was heartbreaking. I mean,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: one of the worstest villains I may ever feel like
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: I lost my best friend. I seemed so smart, she
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: was such a good person. I just she didn't desire
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: to Because there's already been two other people that have
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: been murdered down there, and it's only been nine weeks,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I believe, and now a third one, our Megan, we
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: feel like she was murdered. Now hear what Megan Oxendine's
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: mother has to say. It's something I wouldn't wish for
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  Speaker 1: anybody to go through, to have their child took from them.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Nobody has the right to take him with this child
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  Speaker 1: from my child came up here three three and a half,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: four weeks ago, had been attacked. I let the officers,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: two officers know that night. I don't know how much
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: you know, well, it was a little something she didn't
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: know who had something to do with it, ortially done it.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: The FBI has now upped the offer on a reward.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: There is a thirty thousand dollar reward for anyone with
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: information that helps investigators determine what happened to the three
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: most recent women found murdered in the small town of Lumberton,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: North Carolina. And I'm referring to thirty two year old
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Christina Bennett found inside an abandoned home, Rhonda Jones, thirty six,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: found outside home, both of them discovered on the very
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: same day. Megan oxende just twenty eight years old. The
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: three bodies, all found within a four block radius. A
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollar reward. Take a listen. The FBI is
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: announcing a reward of up to thirty thousand dollars for
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: inferm mean to determine the circumstances that led to the
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: deaths of Christina Bennett, Rhonda Jones, and Megan oxende Christina Bennett,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: or as her family called her Kristen, was found deceased
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: inside a house on Petstree Street on April eighteen. Rhonda
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Jones was found deceased outside a house on East fifth
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  Speaker 1: three on the same day, that being April eighteenth, and
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Megan Oxendine was found deceized outside of house on East
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: eighth Street on June three. Their deaths are suspicious, but
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: in part because of the close proximity of when and
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: where their bodies were found. We're not going to elaborate
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: further to protect the integrity and the investigation, but rest
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: assured that law enforcement officers in this case are working
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: hard to determine how these women died, but we need
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: your help. Investigators are asking anyone who came in contact
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: with these women to come forward. We believe it metis
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: community have information that can assist us in creating a
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: timeline of when and where they were last seen alive.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: No piece of information is too on. You may think
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: that what you know is not important. We asked that
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: you not make that decision yourself. Please call us, let
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: us to let us determine whether that information is relevant
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: or healthful. Anyone with information should call FBI Charlotte at
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: seven oh four six seven two six zero zero and
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: then head option number two again. That's seven oh four
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  Speaker 1: six seven to number two. Every part of our work
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: is law enforcem benefits from the help we received from
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: the public. We need the community's assistance, the people's eye
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: ear information from friends and neighbors. We asked that you
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call us. Tell us what
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: you know, what you heard, and what you saw. The
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: FBI has committed committed to assisting our law enforcement part
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: nurse at the lumber Lumberton Police Department to determine what
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: happened to these women. We owe it to each of
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: these three women, We owe it to their families, We
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: owe it to this community to put together the pieces
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: of that puzzle and to provide the answers of what
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: happened to them. Tip Line nine one zero, six, seven,
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  Speaker 1: one three eight four or five. Repeat tip Line six
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  Speaker 1: seven one three eight four five. Nancy Grace Crime Stories,
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  Speaker 1: signing off goodbye friend,