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The Unspoken Disgrace of Open Borders No One's Discussing w/ Namrata Singh Gujral · Man in America Podcast

• 0:00
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. You've probably been watching what's happening with the border with complete disgust. I know that I have been. But one level that I haven't yet considered until recently, especially after coming across this documentary called America invaded, was what is the disgust being felt by the veterans that were fight fighting in The Middle East, fighting the same terrorists that they're now letting walk right across our border.
• 0:31
  So that to me is an important thing to look at, because we know that there's been a massive increase in veteran suicides, etcetera. But, like, what's it like for a veteran that is a, you know, quadruple amputee that was fighting terrorists that now is turning on the news and watching? Oh, yeah. Now they're letting these terrorists just walk into the country. Right?
• 0:51
  These are terrorists that you would be, you know, shooting on-site if they were over in Afghanistan or Iraq, and now they're walking into the country. And so there's not just that, but it's a much bigger picture. And so so Tim interviewing the filmmaker behind America Invaded Invaded. Her name is Nnamrata Gershral, and so she has been making incredible documentaries about these kinds of topics, and so that we just released this documentary, or she did. But let me go and play the trailer for it because that will really help set the tone for the discussion today.
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: Hello, OddPan. Hello, OddPan. Well, the Israeli military says the attacks launched by Hamas on Saturday are like the 2,001 terrorist attacks on The United States. This is our 09:11, the spokesman said. I
• 1:41
  Speaker 3: looked up and I said, what what the hell is going on? I can't remember the the kid's name I was in class with, but he was like, World War three, dude. We're going to war.
• 1:49
  Speaker 4: For our generation, this was our Pearl Harbor. And that's when the idea started to blossom about the military service. I was only in Afghanistan for one month. I don't got a left arm. I don't got any more legs or, you know, a right arm.
• 2:06
  Speaker 5: That was my only child. He would have been 34 now.
• 2:10
  Speaker 3: Jeremy called our childhood a leave it to be her childhood. I think of the three of us, Ben enlisted for the most purely patriotic reasons.
• 2:18
  Speaker 5: He enlisted because of 09/11. He felt that he needed to help our country.
• 2:24
  Speaker 6: And Buchanan High School has lost more young men in that war than any other high school in The United States.
• 2:34
  Speaker 7: There's a lot of kids that lost their lives for this country.
• 2:40
  Speaker 6: Organizations, their commitment, their resolve, their desire intent to do harm to Americans, we could actually have a sleeper cell already in The United States.
• 2:52
  Speaker 7: The international intelligence community, we are worried that America has underestimated the hatred that terrorists have for the West and for America in particular.
• 3:05
  Speaker 3: After fighting with the Taliban all these years, Americans opened the airplane doors and said, welcome to America.
• 3:14
  Speaker 7: If the people that are supposedly running our country aren't gonna do anything to keep our country safe, then why are you sending our kids to places where they can be harmed or killed?
• 3:30
  Seth Holehouse: So, folks, not only is it an incredible documentary, but there's an incredible behind the documentary that I'll be talking to right now. So folks, please enjoy the interview. Namrata, thank you so much for joining us on the show today. It's a pleasure to have you here.
• 3:45
  Speaker 8: Thanks so much for having me.
• 3:47
  Seth Holehouse: So you are a documentary filmmaker of many other things, which is close to my heart, the the role of film and communication, obviously. And you've recently released a documentary called America Invaded. Now a lot of people would think, oh, okay. It's another just border documentary. Yes.
• 4:06
  There's a war going on down there, and we're being invaded, and we're seeing it every night on the news. But what I found with your documentary is it tells an entirely different story by looking at the sacrifices that we've made and our young men have made in this country, in The Middle East, to protect us from terrorists, and coupling that and juxtaposing that with literally opening up the door since the same terrorists they were hunting down in Afghanistan or Iraq are now just walking over the border and is coming in. And so it's it's a really important angle that I think it's really important story that's not being told enough. So I guess I'll just hand it over to you. Do you want to just give an overall synopsis of of America Invaded, a little bit of background about yourself?
• 4:52
  And I'll I'll just let you start where you feel comfortable.
• 4:56
  Speaker 8: Well, first, Seth, thank you so much for having me and providing this platform to share this very important film with your viewers and your audiences. I always say in Hollywood, we don't make these films because these are huge moneymakers. We make these because we love our country. I'm, by the way, a registered Democrat, longtime Democrat, and I felt compelled to make this film. So I hope your audiences will set up and take notice as to why this film was made and what is particularly important about this picture.
• 5:26
  I'll go back to what you said, the juxtaposition of the American soldiers' legacy and sacrifice in trying to protect America and then letting terrorists in through our southern border. I don't even mince my words. I say terrorists in because it's proven that we have jihadists in the country that came in through the southern border. I'm not sure why people, I mean, are facts and statistics. Some folks will still kind of maybe beat around the bush a little bit and say, allegedly we have terrorists.
• 5:57
  No, it's not alleged. We have them. Go take a look at the numbers, take a look at the CBP reports, take a look at the stats. When you ask your young men and women and American kids to go overseas to protect America and they do it with all their soul and heart because they love this country so much, how dare you allow terrorists back in the country that might've killed them on foreign lands that are now in The US. And that is the premise of America invaded.
• 6:28
  It's not just America invaded at the southern border, but America invaded in terms of America's soul, America's spirit, because our young ones are our spirit and our soul, right? That's how we continue America. And to unravel their legacy to me, is beyond anything else that you could do that could be destructive to this country.
• 6:56
  Seth Holehouse: And it's difficult to look at this situation, not get upset. I know for me, looking at the videos I see of people walking across the border, and not just that, but then seeing the stories and the headlines of of rape and murder and the human trafficking, that already is enough for me as a proud American to say, like, this this disgusts me. But I can't imagine. Right? It it'd be very difficult for me to put myself in the shoes of someone that went and fought overseas, maybe did, you know, two or three tours in The Middle East, maybe lost a leg or lost an arm, lost a brother, lost a best friend.
• 7:34
  I can't imagine what would be like for them coming back, and not only dealing with the crisis of our veterans and the the lack of support that they get, which is a whole other, you know, documentary worth of information that needs to be put out there. So not only that, but then looking and seeing the same people that you're right. That would've that would've shot and killed them over on foreign land. Now not only just coming into the country and sneaking in, but being given money, being given, you know, hotel rooms, all taxpayer money. And so I know that you interviewed a lot of these young men that had fought and and some of them that were amputees or they they lost friends and family.
• 8:15
  What were some of the stories and perspectives that really stuck with you from the interviews that you did for the documentary?
• 8:23
  Speaker 8: So that's a terrific question. In fact, I'll start my answer with just saying that every Gold Star's family story is equally important. And there are many, even from the global war on terror, not just from all the different wars that America's engaged in. However, you can only get so many stories in a ninety minute feature. So we extensively interviewed many different families.
• 8:51
  I'm talking maybe perhaps even reached out to somewhere in the hundreds. And we ended up picking six stories for the film. It's not that they were more important, it's just they went above and beyond what you would even consider the sacrifice of a Gold Star family, just in terms of the way they were impacted. And again, not that these six stories are any more powerful or better than any of the other stories. I'll tell you what we ended up doing was we have a sole survivor in the film, for example, Bo Wise.
• 9:31
  He's the current Saving Private Ryan. Three brothers, only three siblings went to war. Two of them died in combat and they brought the third one home just like Saving Private Ryan. He's the only one here now. There's actually two of them in The US and he's one and we have him in the film.
• 9:48
  We have a quadruple amputee in the film. You talked about perhaps losing a limb or a leg. He lost both his legs and both his arms, only has a torso. We have him. We have a African American Gold Star mom who lost her only child in Afghanistan, only child, and she's not older, she's not going to have any more kids.
• 10:08
  And we have that. We have a very important angle that I wanted to put into it because I do believe that the twenty two soldiers a day that are committing suicide after coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan, those are our numbers now. I believe they're very much casualties of this war. And so we have one of those gold star moms whose son committed suicide when he came back because he had so many TBIs, the traumatic brain injuries when he was in Iraq and Afghanistan that some of these soldiers are literally going to VA, they're sitting in the parking lot and they're just taking their lives right there. And finally, we look at the sort of larger aftermath of what happened.
• 10:54
  So we end the story with this one mom whose son was one of the Kabul Thirteen that pull out from Afghanistan. And it was so traumatic for the family. The brothers were very close, the older brother. And we've seen this, by the way, in many other families. We just couldn't put all the stories in the film.
• 11:14
  At his one year anniversary, the older brother went to the memorial and took his life. So we talk about numbers at the end of the film in terms of casualties of the global war and terror. But the casualties spread far more than just the numbers that come from DOD. It's all the other stuff that happens that people forget after they've read the news headline or read the news story. And I think the one thing I will say is with all of these stories and speaking to all of these American heroes and their families, people often ask me, is there regret?
• 11:59
  And we actually ask them on the phone, do you regret it? I will tell you, I am not that brave of a person because they don't have regrets because by and large, every single one of them said, if not me, then who? If not me, then who? Who would have been there for America? Who would have been there to take care of the guys to my right and left?
• 12:19
  Who would have taken the hit if I hadn't taken the hit? So if that tells you anything, I think in a nutshell, that's who these people are. And that's who, by the way, we are unraveling the heroism and legacy of when we do what's being allowed to be done at the southern border.
• 12:40
  Seth Holehouse: And do you recall any specific conversations with these, you know, know, people that fought lost limbs, friends, you know, large portions of their life to protect this country? What were some of their perspectives on watching the border? What was it like for them to see the footage or to see what's happening with the southern border?
• 13:07
  Speaker 8: Well, actually, it's interesting because the whole reason this movie came about is because of a Gold Star Mom. I actually released another film a couple of years ago. I think it was like, yeah, two or three years ago. It was called America's Forgotten. And that was also on the southern border, but kind of more sort of the humanitarian part of it in terms of what happens to migrants, women getting raped, etcetera.
• 13:34
  We followed the journey of a woman who was continuously raped across the Mexican border, and we followed the journey of this kid who got dehydrated and died at the border. But we also talked about the impact to Americans as a result of that open border, for example, economy and job losses and things like that. We have a veteran in that film who, if you think about it on the surface, it doesn't seem like he was impacted by the border, but he actually is a veteran, came back from Iraq and Afghanistan, moved to California, has serious PTSD, decided he does handyman work, so decided to be a contractor. And he couldn't find a job. And by the way, I'm an immigrant, so this is not meant to be a sound vibe that would look somebody will pull from your show and put on the internet and say, oh, she's so anti whatever.
• 14:27
  He doesn't speak Spanish, so he couldn't get a job in California in construction because he had PTSD. And I'm not saying that it's correct. I'm not going to make judgments on it, he got further and further into drugs. So what a juxtaposition that turned out to be. He can't get a job.
• 14:45
  Now he's on heavy duty drugs and from LA is going to the Mexican border down south to Mexico to procure those drugs. Anyway, that's the previous film. So we were doing screenings around the country and I was actually in Houston doing a screening and a Gold Star mom walked up to me and she said
• 15:05
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• 16:07
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• 16:14
  Speaker 8: Know, love what you did. I saw you on a few Fox shows and when I watched your movie, I loved everything that you did. There's only one thing I wish you had paid more attention to national security. And at the time, remember, I literally remember thinking to myself, oh, okay, well, I don't know if you see this, but sometimes people will say, well, that shot that you did, I wish you had kind of done this. And you're thinking, no, I couldn't have done that because there was like a beam falling down on that side.
• 16:41
  So the camera couldn't have gone there. So it's one of those things where you get feedback, but you kind of know what's happening on set. And I thought to myself, well, national security, yeah, okay, I understand, but I'm not sure what the big importance in that film was. However, I do take my audience feedback very seriously. So I came back and I had a couple of my assistants just look at it.
• 17:02
  And at the time I was making two other documentaries, Betted and America's Forgotten two. And I think what we started finding out, I reached out to a friend, won't mention names for privacy, head of Homeland Security X head. And I said, is this true? And they're like, yeah. And I'm like, why isn't this headline news every single day all the time?
• 17:25
  I mean, terrorists are coming into the country. And I changed the flavor of both pictures, actually merged both the pictures together and made America invaded. So when you ask me how the soldiers feel about the southern border, the picture was made because it was prompted by the questions of a gold star mom whose son had enlisted after nine eleven and was killed in Iraq. And she simply couldn't understand what her son gave his life up for.
• 17:57
  Seth Holehouse: I'm sure it would be really difficult for a mother, especially to see that to to sacrifice of losing a son and seeing what's happening at the Southern border. And so, you know, that you spoke to a lot of different experts in this process of of creating the documentary that understand national security and what's happening. And they're not just gonna give you sound bites, like a scene and sound bite of what's happening, but the the real people think your your friend that you mentioned that you're able to talk to speak with. And so from the the research that you've done and the people you've spoken to, what is your assessment of our national security? The the open border, what's it really doing?
• 18:35
  How secure are we? Are we more secure now than we were ten, fifteen years ago? What's your what's your thoughts on this?
• 18:45
  Speaker 8: Well, listen, I'll just even go ahead and give the spoiler because we started the film with an ex FBI director saying twenty years later after the global war on terror, is America safer? And then he answers that question at the end himself. But the answer is, no, it's not. In fact, it's less safe now than we were on nineeleven, if that tells you anything. And the film kind of walks you through all of that.
• 19:15
  And that's him, that's the ex epi I direct. Now personally, I'll tell you this, as a documentarian who comes from an investigative journalism background, I make movies, but I I won a couple of Society of Professional Journalists Awards. I mean, I don't say that to be modest. Take this stuff very seriously. I will tell you that the findings of this picture, there was a memo that came out in 02/2001 before the nineeleven attacks.
• 19:49
  It was called the Phoenix Memo. And what it was, was an FBI agent had put together pretty much an entire kind of blueprint of the aviation schools that were going to be targeted by these terrorists that were going to come in and then launch a large mass scale attack on Americans. And it kind of just made the rounds. It didn't really go anywhere. I think because a lot of people and I don't know the mindset, I'm just guessing this.
• 20:20
  Perhaps it was like, well, yeah, that's this person is overreacting or whatever that is. And then nineeleven happened. In fact, a couple of people that I reached out to couldn't really talk about it because as a result of the Phoenix memo, now the families of nineeleven victims are suing the government of Saudi Arabia. So a lot of this is now, it's in the courts and stuff. So I guess some folks can't talk about it.
• 20:50
  Here's what I'm willing to say on camera. I think America invaded this film should be almost heeded as a Phoenix memo in 2024 of sorts. That's how firmly I believe they're here. And that's how firmly I believe their intent is. And that's how firmly I believe something will be orchestrated when the time is right.
• 21:18
  Seth Holehouse: And I know it's impossible to know exactly, but what do you what would you see being orchestrated?
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: You mean what kind of attack?
• 21:29
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Like, what like, were any indication from the people you've spoken to about what could be done? I mean, we we saw what happened when, you know, June with just with two planes and and and the whole story surrounding that. But if we've got terror cells all over the nation, I mean, there could be those kind of events in every major city. I mean, do you have any any kind of thoughts on what what could happen with that with all this with the open border?
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: Yes, so one of the things, and I was asked this question as well, well, could it be cyber? Could we just be taken out? Could the grid go down? It could, and you don't necessarily have to be in The US, although it would help to have some cells here that would be working the internal workings within The US. But I'm not even talking about the grid going down or supplies going down or any of that.
• 22:21
  I'm talking about loss of life. And what I'll do is I'll point your audiences to look at what happened in Bombay, in Mumbai, in India, Eleven Twenty Six, where there was a large scale attack, various sleeper cells went to various locations. And I'll let your audiences look at it. And it was ghastly. A lot of lives were lost.
• 22:51
  They actually even tried to go into the parliament, which is not, I beg your pardon, not the parliament, their version of the White House. They were stopped and thwarted, but it was a very large scale multi city attack. We actually have a international security expert in the picture who is the ex director of RAW, which is the International Research and Analysis Wing. And they work a lot with jihadist attacks in particular around the world. And just by the way to be clear, not all Muslims are jihadists.
• 23:25
  I wanna make that very clear. There's some great Muslims in the world and peace loving Muslims but unfortunately there is a faction of them that just for whatever reason, just want to kill a bunch of us. And that's just how it is. So in talking to that gentleman from research and analysis Wang and various others, I think you're looking at a multi city attack, which would be at the same time simultaneous, and we would lose a lot of lives.
• 24:05
  Seth Holehouse: And and it could cripple life as we know it here in America. And I've explored just a lot of the grid down scenarios, which is could be done through, you know, a nuclear, you know, you know, kind of warhead as an EMP. It could be through, you know, more localized EMP, even just through cyber attacks. And the loss of life from that is just it's it's unfathomable to most people what that could do. I mean, we're we're we're so vulnerable.
• 24:32
  So one one question I do have though is that that, you know, as I mentioned in the beginning, there are a lot of documentaries about the border, a lot of coverage in the border, which is really important. My good friend Michael Jan is down there a lot, and Vandersteel. There there's a lot of important coverage, you know, coming out. But with this documentary, how is it different? How would you describe it?
• 24:50
  Someone said, well, there's six different things I can watch if I wanna understand what's happening on the border. Why this particular documentary?
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: I think it's very simple for me. I mean, first of all, I respect every single content creator and filmmaker who's at the border telling the story. I think it's pertinent for journalists and documentarians to tell it as it is. So the average American who's going to work perhaps doing two jobs a day has a more succinct way of watching what's going on in the country and being able to make responsible decisions when they go vote. So hats off to everyone who's doing it.
• 25:30
  In terms of this film in particular though, it goes beyond the southern border. It goes beyond the photos and videos of people coming in thousands and crossing the border. It goes beyond Darien Pass that we talk about. We have an interview with a coyote at Darien Pass in the film, as a matter of fact. And I think that what this picture does is not only show you, we all know we have a problem at the border.
• 25:59
  I remember I made a documentary on breast cancer one time, a woman's journey through breast cancer. And I had Nancy Brinker in the film from Susan G. Komen for The Cure. And at the time, she and I were talking and she said, well, October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month. And I said to her, I said, Nancy, with all due respect, this is 02/2009.
• 26:20
  We're aware of breast cancer. If you're a woman and you don't know there's a breast cancer problem, you're living under a rock. And she agreed with me. So I think we're in 2024. If Americans don't know that there's a problem at the border, they're living under a rock.
• 26:36
  So I'm sure everybody knows. So watching that movie and watching people throng through the border, we know and we watch it because it's horrifying. It's kind of like watching a car wreck on the freeway. Sometimes you can't get your eyes off of it and you just need to watch it. This picture goes a lot deeper than that.
• 26:53
  It talks about why the southern border is open the way it is. Also, want to point out, we don't just talk about the southern border in the film, which a lot of the documentaries do. We actually looked at every single entryway to America since nineeleven. And the southern border, when people coming in, that's illegal, of course. We look at our legal entry points where people enter The United States Three different ways.
• 27:22
  Visa, asylum and refuge. We travel to Kenya, to the Dadaab Refugee Camp, where a lot of the Somali refugees are coming from, and show you how terrorists are coming in from there. We take you to Afghanistan. We talk to a special forces guy, Afghan guy, who talks to us about how some of these Taliban boarded our planes. And that was through a special interest visa.
• 27:49
  We took talk about Mohammad Masood with the H-1B visa, who came from Pakistan to the Mayo Clinic to be a physician and then decided to do a jihadist attack in The United States to kill a bunch of Americans. So this picture goes far beyond the southern border. It talks about every possible entryway into The US and how every entryway is being frauded and abused. And what's shocking is, Seth, I'll tell you this, some of the hijackers of nineeleven were in The United States due to some loopholes of our legal immigration system. They didn't come into the southern border.
• 28:29
  Those loopholes today, you and I are speaking, what is that? The twenty ninth of Feb twenty twenty four, I think it's the twenty ninth. Those loopholes as we speak today still exist. I can't even tell you. I can't even speak to it more than that.
• 28:41
  If that doesn't tell you something.
• 28:45
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. It's not accidental. That's for sure. The more you look into this, you see there's no way this is something that was just oversight or sloppy organization. I mean, what you can see is, I mean, from my perspective, I've got a lot of different ideas on this, but fundamentally, I think that we've been our our country has been overthrown in many ways, and there are people that are playing a role and actively destroying this country.
• 29:10
  I mean, to me, it's the only way that we can explain this. It's not about, you know, well, you know, America's the land of the free, and, you know, come one, come all. I mean, this is like, I'm all for immigration. My wife is an immigrant. She came from Australia.
• 29:22
  I'm all for legal immigration, but this is is not that. And I saw even yesterday I think it was yesterday, day before yesterday, there was something about I forget which country it was. I think it was Venezuela, where they said that crime is at a twenty year low, but it's because so many criminals were leaving to come to America. And it's just it's astounding, because that's the thing is that when you when you look at these the people that are coming across the border, and I've done a lot I've done a lot of interviews with folks that are whether they're ex border patrol, specials, you know, special forces, etcetera, and they can look at a video of the lineup on a on a street or on, you know, side of a dirt path down in Texas. And they they they does, you know, on on the show with me, they say, okay.
• 30:05
  That person's c you know, Chinese military. That person's Chinese military. That person looks like, you know, South American special forces. They're not regular your your women and children. I mean, these are people that look like they're soldiers.
• 30:20
  They look like they're what, you know, what you call fifth column, an invading enemy that's filling up our country with their own soldiers. So that way, the one day they get the order, they can unleash an attack from all angles. And that's that's my concern.
• 30:36
  Speaker 8: Yep. And like I said before, consider this film as a warning and as a Phoenix memo in 2024. It's not good.
• 30:47
  Seth Holehouse: Hey, folks. I've got a quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey.
• 31:00
  Buy this gold. Buy this silver. Right? Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at? So I recently came across some figures about house prices.
• 31:07
  So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 02/2023, the average family home is just over $400,000. So you have to ask yourself, why is that? Is it because things have just gotten more expensive? No.
• 31:23
  It's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930. Right? When people talk about the collapse of the dollar or inflation, this is what it means. Now let's take a look at gold. So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins.
• 31:42
  So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today. What can you buy with $4,000? Can you buy a family home?
• 32:02
  No. You can't even buy a a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals. It's not about getting rich.
• 32:23
  It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now. We're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver, because what it's doing is it's protecting you. This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the nineteen thirties. We're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations.
• 32:58
  Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome. It's still around. It's an asset that will forever have its value. So folks, if you want to do this and you need someone you can trust, there's no person I can recommend more than doctor Kirk Elliott. He's a very good friend of mine.
• 33:13
  He's a strong Christian patriot, and he's out to really help people to protect their savings and what you've worked for against the destruction of the dollar, not to mention also protecting it against the dangers of a central bank digital currencies. So to learn more about this, go
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: to
• 33:27
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• 33:55
  It's not. One question I do have, and I like getting into the more your, you know, visceral experience of making this. What would you say was one of the most difficult challenges or moments that you had? I know that every creative process is a journey, and you have your your highs and your lows. But something like this where your your journey involves dangerous places, looking into criminal organizations, talking to people that have great suffering.
• 34:23
  There's a lot a lot that can arise out of that. So what are there any memory of moments that really stuck with you or really changed something about your perspective of the world that you had in making this documentary?
• 34:38
  Speaker 8: Well, looks at I'll say this. I mean, movie making is is, you know, whether you're making a major studio picture or you're making the independent project, it's we have a saying, Pain is temporary, film is forever. Obviously when you're I can't speak to a lot of the travels that I did because some of them were people helped us a lot is what I'll say, probably that shouldn't have helped us, but decided to do the right thing. What I will tell you is this, actually this answer would probably work best with what you ask because I really mean it. When we were in post production on this film, I think one of the most shocking aspects to me was every time that we thought we had a locked picture, some other stats would come out or something else would come out.
• 35:39
  I'd be like, I mean, I couldn't keep up with all the transgressions and terrorists coming into The US. And so at one point, I think someone asked me from, I think it was Washington Post or something the other day, well, you have all these latest headlines in your picture. How quickly did you make this film? And I said, you know what? Actually, some of those latest headlines, we literally took out something from two years ago and put the latest one.
• 36:06
  That's how quickly they're happening. And the same thing is happening to where you have tonality and you have pacing and you have a lot of these different things in the picture. We didn't have to change a beat. That's how often and how regularly a lot of these incidents are happening through our legal entry points and our southern border. And I think that was probably the most shocking thing to me.
• 36:30
  You make a documentary and you typically when you put it out, people look back and go, Oh my God, I didn't know that happened. Or I didn't know, Oh, some terrorists also came in like last year, I guess. And you watched this and even since I've released this documentary, there have been new stats out by CBP. So I think that was perhaps the most shocking thing. And then someone also asked me, well, do you wish that Biden and Mayorkas would watch your film?
• 36:52
  Let me tell you something else. They don't have to watch the film because I can tell you with a great degree of confidence, they already know. It's not like they don't know all this stuff is happening, that the sleeper cells are here and the terrorists are coming in. They know, they don't need to watch this picture. The question is, what are they gonna do about it?
• 37:13
  Seth Holehouse: Then that is the question. Now something that you mentioned at the beginning, I think is really worth touching upon. You mentioned you're a lifelong democrat, and I think it's brilliant that you're working on this. And I think that because for a lot of people, they would say, oh, the border, that's a that's more of a right wing issue, and a lot of the Democrat politicians have been more for open borders, and and it more you know, bringing a lot lot more immigrants in and kinda really filling up the country. And it's, like, similar.
• 37:42
  I I interviewed a gentleman named doctor Robert Epstein, who did this massive project on election fraud, and he's also been a lifelong Democrat. So the thing is these aren't issues that are left versus right, and that that's the key here. But I wanted to see from your perspective and from from perhaps some of your peers or friends that, you know, have come from more of that Democratic position. How does this how do you feel about this? Right?
• 38:09
  What how does like, kind of looking at a lot of the the more democratic policies of, you know, know, more lean towards open border, you know, not all of them, but a lot of them are. How how have you like, how has that changed your view on politics in America experiencing this?
• 38:25
  Speaker 8: Well, first of all, I'm very disappointed, frustrated, but I think also very angry at my party. Because what we're doing to this country, but letting some of these criminals and murderers, but also terrorist jihadists into the country, When you send your kids to war, yeah, I get it. A large majority of our military is perhaps maybe Republican or of yours right. But there are some, I'm sure there are some kids from liberal families. In fact, I know there are some kids from liberal families that have died in combat.
• 39:04
  When you look at the sacrifices of these kids, these kids are not just Republican or Democrat. And by the way, if they were on the front lines and there were six of them and one of them was Democrat and the other five were Republicans, they don't care. They have your back just like they would anybody else's. So how dare, first of all, we as Americans look away from this issue if it doesn't align with the narrative of our party? That's the first thing I'm going to say.
• 39:32
  The second thing I'll say is, and I want to say this very openly, I went to this picture with a very open mind. I, in fact, when we started making the film, I said, you know what, let's interview some leaders from the right and left. And let's talk about some of the myths or some messaging that both sides hear as to why this is being allowed to happen. We interviewed a bunch of folks just like street interviews. And I think the top messaging from the right was the Democrats just want to get a bigger voter base and get a voter bank.
• 40:05
  And so nine out of ten, eight out of 10 people that come in illegally will vote Democratic and that's why they allow it. The messaging that was most prominent from the left for the right was the right doesn't want to have people come in and they want to secure the borders because they're white supremacists, they're anti brown, they're racist. We heard a lot that word racist and they're anti immigration. So what we did was we reached out to hands on five on each side. We did a search.
• 40:37
  We found people that were most pro open border and most anti open border on the right and left. And we reached out to all of them. We said, we want to give you an opportunity to talk about this in the film because people are hearing this and this is what they need to understand. I'll tell you that we reached out to five congressmen and women on the Republican side to talk about the racism, etcetera. And every single one of them said, sure, I'll come on camera, I'll talk about it.
• 41:06
  Which was great. We could only get one because again, it's a movie you can't make it about congressional leaders. I reached out to five initially that I show in the picture and then I actually reached out to more on the same thing. Not a single one of them wanted to come on camera and talk about this issue. In fact, offline I got a call from one of them and said, I'll talk about anything, but I don't want to talk about you know, why the border is being allowed to be poorest.
• 41:34
  I just don't even wanna go there. And I can't mention names, I'll just leave it at that.
• 41:39
  Seth Holehouse: Why and you not know for sure, but why do you think that these those folks you reached out to would talk about anything but the border? Why is it why is it that kind of issue? What's so important about the border that they won't come on the camera to talk about this border policy?
• 41:57
  Speaker 8: You know, I I don't wanna sound like I'm trying to defend them, and maybe this will come out as a little bit, but I'm not. I do believe that there are people in the Democratic Party who see this. I mean, is just what's going on is criminal and bizarre, okay? And I'm sure there are people, Democrats like me who've seen this and go, what the heck is going, well, stop. I think the problem, I mean, I'm not a politician and I never intend to be one, I can speak freely to this.
• 42:27
  Having learned what I have, that is my job as a matter of fact, to share the information that I have gleaned with the audiences of the American people. I think for a lot of them, they see what's happening, they recognize what's happening, they see why it's so bad in terms of what could happen to The United States. So the only other thing then is how do you go against your party and it might politically go against you with your job and your career, etcetera. So I know I'm giving you a roundabout answer, but it is true. There are Democrats who recognize that just will not speak publicly about it because it would literally be going against the party's narrative completely.
• 43:24
  Seth Holehouse: Which is a difficult place to be, I'm sure, because parties change. The Democrat party now is very different than it was twenty years ago. The ideals of both parties are very different, and so I I I have some empathy for that. I I do I I wish people unfortunately, I think that on both sides, which I I think in a lot of ways, both sides are very corrupted. Like, that's my my view of politicians.
• 43:48
  And I do wish that more people would just stand up and say, look, even if this cost me my career, like, I have to draw a line in the sand somewhere. But, yeah, it's it's easy for me to say from my perspective within my own life where I'm not out doing these other jobs. So what is next for you? So you you just released this documentary. We're gonna talk about where to watch it.
• 44:13
  Do you already have your next project outline? Like, what's the next thing that you're gonna be focusing on?
• 44:19
  Speaker 8: So I'm actually I made America's Forgotten and America invaded back to back again. And I am honored to have made these pictures, by the way. I'll put a caveat there. But again, you don't make these documentaries into these movies for the money. Movie making takes funds and that's okay.
• 44:37
  These are two that I funded myself because I felt compelled to tell these stories, etcetera. But now I got to go and make a film that will make money. So I think my next picture is going be back to Bollywood and and I'm going to make a film. I do some Bollywood work. And so I think that's going to be the next one.
• 44:56
  I will say this. I don't know if I'm allowed to say this on camera. Someone told me this was illegal, but I do think that in November, if things don't go the way they should, someone should think about making a documentary, A Case for Succession, because it's just not good, Seth.
• 45:17
  Seth Holehouse: I I know. Folks, have a quick message for you. Look, the twenty twenty four election is do or die for the globalist and communists that have infiltrated our country and are currently running it. And they either have to win or they're gonna destroy America so nothing is left either way. And if you're the person that's watching this show and following this information, unfortunately, you have the weight on your shoulders of making sure that your family is prepared, especially as we head in to this next year in this next election cycle because unfortunately, I think it's gonna get rough.
• 45:49
  And one of the ways I know they're going to target us is through our food supply. You can see all the food factories burned down, you can see the warnings of coming famines and food shortages and everything like that. And food is one of the number one ways totalitarian regimes have always used to control the populations destroy the food supply. So if you don't have at least two, three, four, five, six months worth of stored food, I highly recommend you take that very seriously. Because look, as I mentioned, if you're the person that's watching this, you're the person that carries the burden of making sure your family is prepared.
• 46:21
  I would recommend at least six months, if not a year of storable food. So if things go haywire, whether it's grid down or terrorist attack from what's coming across the border, that your family can safely stay in place and you can feed your family. So folks today, go to heavensharvest.com and make sure you get your store will through the last for up to twenty five years. Just in case things go south, you know that you have what's gonna take to feed your family, which is so so critical for us to get through this next stage of history. So go to heavensharvest.com today, order your food that lasts up to twenty five years and use promo code Seth to save 15% on your entire order.
• 46:58
  Again, that's heavensharvest.com and use promo code Seth, s e t h, to save 15% on your entire order. I'm I'm worried about some kind of civil war. I mean, I just I I if you look at the trends of where the country's at, I only see it going one way. It's hard to imagine it reversing. It's like everything they do, this throws more fuel in the fire.
• 47:25
  The country gets more and more divided, more splintered, and, you know, especially now that you have, like, with what what you know, with with Texas, for instance, where you have these instances where the federal is battling the states. I mean, that that's not good. That's going against the foundation of our country and how this country was established to try to limit, you know, the the power of the federal government and give it to the states. And, you know, these are tricky times because it's these are what spin out of control and end up becoming, you know, before you know it, you're like, okay, well, these six states have now succeeded, and they've formed the the country of Southern, you know, states or whatever it is. And it's just, it's not good.
• 48:09
  It's not good at all.
• 48:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and if I may, Seth, I will say this one more thing. So I was we actually when you do documentaries, you kind of do a little premise because obviously it's not a narrative. You don't have a script that you follow, but not documentaries. And I was with my team the other day and I said, American divorce, that's it, we should. And I said, well, let's just do a premise.
• 48:29
  I know we're not going to do it, but just for the heck of it, let's do a premise. And I'll tell you the most important thing that came up in that team meeting was, okay, well, if there was a divorce, you do you, I'll do me. And then what happens to people like me? Because I mean, I identify and vote as a Democrat, but right now I dislike and hate just about everything about the party. I don't know what's gotten into them.
• 48:56
  And so we were laughing, we're like, okay, then what happens? Is there like a state in the middle that all the others can go into? Like, it's kind of interesting. But yes, I do agree with you. I think that I hope it doesn't come to that, but it's at a point where things are so polarized and so extreme.
• 49:16
  And I think the politicians only add fuel to the fire, by the way. This whole thing that happened in the Senate with that border bill, it should not have passed. And I'm glad the Republicans didn't pass it. And I said it to someone else, it was a win win for Biden because if it had passed, he could have claimed that he was the person who brought the parties together to secure the border. If it didn't pass, they did exactly what they did and blamed it on the Republicans and said, they don't wanna secure the border.
• 49:42
  The truth of it is from someone who's done a lot of research on this, that bill was awful and it wouldn't have served anything. It wasn't even a band aid, forget a solution. And it would have stopped someone from giving it an actual solution in the future. In the meantime, you would have had like 8,000 people a day coming into the country anyway, illegally. And then you're going to put cap on it, I think five or eight, whatever that was.
• 50:05
  And so in the meantime, you've had, here's the other part to look at. Now you've got these numbers that come into the country and then at a cap you stop. Well, what if two people come to the border after you've stopped the cap for the day that actually happened to be real asylees or real refugees? Now you just turned the real people away because you're meeting a cap because you just allowed a bunch of other people in that have no business being there or being allowed refuge or asylum into the country. The whole thing is so was so screwed up, and I'm very glad it failed.
• 50:37
  So
• 50:38
  Seth Holehouse: Good. No. Very good points. So before we sign off, I wanna just pull up the website here, and I'll put this in in the description. So it's Salemnow.com.
• 50:47
  Is is this is a, you know, Salem Media. This is a streaming service. I'll put the the direct link to this page. Here's where folks can go on. They can watch it.
• 50:56
  They can play. They can buy the DVD. America invaded. Do you have any closing comments for the audience before we sign off?
• 51:06
  Speaker 8: Just two very quick comments. One, at the end of the day, I decided to put the country before my career because we're all American at the end of the day. We're not Democrats and Republicans, we're American. We love this country with the same soul and heart that pretty much most of us do. I'll keep it at that.
• 51:26
  And so I think we just need to come together and look past the politician's bullshit. I don't know if I can say that.
• 51:31
  Seth Holehouse: You
• 51:31
  Speaker 8: can. Okay. And then the second thing I'll say is I really would love to make American divorce. So if anyone's watching and wants to help, come on over, reach out to us. UniGlobe Entertainment is the name of the company.
• 51:48
  Because I'll tell you what, if I can get some help, I would love to make that documentary as well. I think that Americans need to see what that would look like so we stop the bleeding and bring our country back on track and stop destroying our country. So thank you for having me.
• 52:03
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, absolutely. It's been a pleasure. Thank you so much for for what you're doing. I really appreciate your work, and I encourage folks to, again, salemnow.com. This is where you're gonna find out.
• 52:12
  Put the link below America invaded. So, Narada, thank you again. It's been a pleasure speaking with you. Take care.
• 52:21
  Speaker 8: Thanks, Seth.