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The Most Challenging Phases of Motherhood (And Why They Don't Last Forever) · It's Mom O'Clock

• 0:01
  Speaker A: Hello.
• 0:02
  Speaker B: You guys, stop. Is it mom o' clock yet? I'm going crazy.
• 0:08
  Speaker A: Heck yeah, it's mom o' clock somewhere. Well, I'm so happy to be back. Me too. My God, it's been so long. I miss you sometimes, like, I have to just say something.
• 0:23
  Speaker B: What do you have to say?
• 0:23
  Speaker A: People see this. These like episodes that we do and we're chit chat and we're talking, but not all conversations feel good.
• 0:30
  Speaker B: No.
• 0:31
  Speaker A: Like they just don't.
• 0:33
  Speaker B: Do you have a stomachache right now?
• 0:34
  Speaker A: No.
• 0:35
  Speaker B: Oh.
• 0:36
  Speaker A: I just feel like this is like a therapy session, so to speak.
• 0:40
  Speaker B: Right.
• 0:40
  Speaker A: For us.
• 0:41
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 0:42
  Speaker A: And we talk the truths and we talk our feelings. We say things that most people wouldn't say. We, you know, and I just feel like sometimes it's hard conversations and they don't feel good sometimes.
• 0:55
  Speaker B: I agree. Like, yeah, we just. Sometimes we have conversations and we don't agree with each other or we don't agree with what we're talking about and
• 1:04
  Speaker A: we don't like what we're talking about.
• 1:06
  Speaker B: Yeah. And we have feelings and they come out.
• 1:08
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 1:09
  Speaker B: And also, like, we know people are listening, so we know other people will have feelings.
• 1:15
  Speaker A: And, and, and it's like so hard to talk because we don't want people. This is, it's funny cause me and, and someone else were just talking about this literally the same. No names. The second I. I only say names when it's like the best thing.
• 1:29
  Speaker B: Right. Shout out if it's not nice. No names.
• 1:32
  Speaker A: No, but it's nice. But like, sometimes, like people don't want their air out. Aired. Out.
• 1:35
  Speaker B: Aired out. Which I, I understand. Like, if I. If my best friend was starting a podcast and I was telling like a story. Let's. I'm just saying, like any story. And I was like. And I thought about it for a second. I was like, is she going to say this on the podcast? Like sometimes you don't want your shit unfolded. Correct. Which is fine.
• 1:55
  Speaker A: Fine. But like, I'm not an idiot and I know things I should and shouldn't say.
• 1:59
  Speaker B: Like for example, the story probably shouldn't say it. But no, I was, I was sitting with my husband and my 5 year old and my. We were laying and I had no makeup on and my five year old goes, mommy, what are all those dots on your face? And I was like, dots? And I look at Joe and I'm like, what dots? And he's like, oh, those are just mommy's big pores. And I was like, my big pores?
• 2:22
  Speaker A: You son of a Wait, your husband looks at you big pores.
• 2:27
  Speaker B: And I was like, big pores. How about you give me some money so I can go get a facial and I stop using your at home facials all over my face.
• 2:36
  Speaker A: I'm sick.
• 2:37
  Speaker B: Where did he point the.
• 2:38
  Speaker A: The pores out? He's just.
• 2:40
  Speaker B: No, Joe was like. Joey was like, mommy, what are all those dots all over your face? And I thought that like I had like something on my face and Joe said that they were my pores.
• 2:49
  Speaker A: You're kidding.
• 2:50
  Speaker B: And now, now you can't stop looking at the mirror. Kids say unhinged things, but now husbands do too.
• 2:55
  Speaker A: That's not nice. No, that hurts my feelings.
• 2:58
  Speaker B: No, hurts my feelings. And your facials suck.
• 3:02
  Speaker A: Suck. That's like not nice to say. Always laugh.
• 3:11
  Speaker B: No, but that is, I mean, so like say it's hard. It's hard being a podcaster. Sometimes you just gotta say how it is.
• 3:17
  Speaker A: It's. Sometimes we just have to say how it is and nothing. Like, it's all in.
• 3:21
  Speaker B: Good.
• 3:21
  Speaker A: It's all in. Unless you fucking suck. Then it's not.
• 3:25
  Speaker B: Yeah, but you know what we're talking about today?
• 3:27
  Speaker A: What?
• 3:28
  Speaker B: All the phases of motherhood. Everything is a phase. Right, let's.
• 3:34
  Speaker A: Everything is a phase. All you have ever said to me
• 3:36
  Speaker B: is it's a phase because it's true. It might not be a good phase, but it'll end.
• 3:41
  Speaker A: It is true though.
• 3:42
  Speaker B: Or it might be a great phase and it also ends. It's so sad.
• 3:46
  Speaker A: We could just never win as mothers.
• 3:48
  Speaker B: No. And I think we have to just like take it, Take it in. Take it in. Like even the good, I mean even the bad. Like the bad know that it'll end. And the good hold onto it because it'll end. So just like, I don't know, but like, let's talk about the phases that you really wished would end. Like I remember the what throwing phase. Oh, the throwing phase was bad. I was just talking to my sister in law about her son is in a biting phase. Oh, you had a biting phase, didn't you? Biting. I can't remember if one of my kids. I think I did. But when you're in those phases, it's like, why the is my kid doing this? And how do I get out of it?
• 4:30
  Speaker A: I feel like he's gonna be a murderer.
• 4:32
  Speaker B: Yeah. I am raising a sociopath serial killer. Yeah, but like, no, you're not. You're just raising a toddler and they happen to be throwing shit or biting and it will end.
• 4:42
  Speaker A: I'll never forget does it feel like it's ending though?
• 4:44
  Speaker B: No, it doesn't. I always remember. I'll always go back to the phase where Joey was pulling his cousin's hair.
• 4:49
  Speaker A: I know you talked about that.
• 4:50
  Speaker B: And it's just like. Like I remember being in it. So I was a first time mom and it was the first time that like he actually was doing something that was hurting someone and bad and other people were seeing it and like I felt so bad. Like I felt almost helpless. Like as a mom.
• 5:05
  Speaker A: Like how long was the face?
• 5:07
  Speaker B: It was, it was a whole summer. Like a summer long of pulling hair and like really tugging, pulling and like I didn't know how to discipline him. I didn't know what to do about it.
• 5:16
  Speaker A: Could you just look at her and be like, I need this?
• 5:18
  Speaker B: It was, yeah, like it was just one of those things where he looked
• 5:21
  Speaker A: fresh when he was doing it.
• 5:22
  Speaker B: No, sometimes it wasn't fresh. It was just like he just wanted to yank. It was just such a bad phase. And I remember thinking like, this is gonna be bad forever. And then one day it was just over. And I remember like that with a lot of things. Like I will never forget when I just had Joey. And he would just be not sleeping. Just like the sleep regressions were so bad. And then I had another one and then he would be climbing out of the crib. He would climb, he would have bruises on his ribs from climbing over the crib 50 times a night. I remember turning to Joe like, we're never gonna sleep again. Like we are never going to ever sleep again. Because now he's in bed and now. Yeah, it's just like. And then like I remember laying, laying on his next to his crib to try to get him to sleep. Like I remember that fees never being over. Like just all of these phases that happen, they come and then they go. And now here we are onto the next.
• 6:23
  Speaker A: Now you have adults.
• 6:24
  Speaker B: Now I have adults. So sad.
• 6:26
  Speaker A: It is so sad.
• 6:28
  Speaker B: But no, there are new phases. But are there any other phases, like as babies that you wish to weigh?
• 6:36
  Speaker A: The throwing and the hitting is like a huge phase that I can't wait to end. The non eating is a huge phase. I want to end the pick eating.
• 6:46
  Speaker B: You know what, it's funny because I
• 6:48
  Speaker A: don't care about the pick eating. I'll give him the same meal every day.
• 6:50
  Speaker B: No, no, no. But that's annoying. So that's like you do that and you, you outdo that. You, you do it every single day and then all of a sudden you Buy it. And they're like, I don't want that. Like, okay, that phase of chicken nuggets is over now. You're never gonna eat it again. Right? Okay, so now we're on to the next. Right. So, like, everything is, like. It's funny because you. When you're in it, you think it's
• 7:10
  Speaker A: never going to end.
• 7:10
  Speaker B: Right?
• 7:12
  Speaker A: I just feel like those are the two phases I can't stand.
• 7:15
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 7:16
  Speaker A: He's in, like, the repeating stage now, like, where he repeats everything I'm saying. And it's kind of cute until it's not.
• 7:23
  Speaker B: Right.
• 7:25
  Speaker A: He's starting to talk back a little bit. Did you ever talk backstage?
• 7:29
  Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
• 7:30
  Speaker A: Like, he'll go.
• 7:32
  Speaker B: I'll be like, I'm still in that.
• 7:34
  Speaker A: I'll be like, I'm mad at you. He'll be like, you. I'm mad. You. And I'm like, excuse me.
• 7:41
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 7:41
  Speaker A: Like, that's where I'm at right now.
• 7:42
  Speaker B: My kids are big on. I'm not your friend anymore. You're not my. You're not my best buddy. Like that. They'll say that to each other and to me. Big phase that we're in right now. Awful phase. They. They're pinching each other.
• 7:55
  Speaker A: Oh, no. I don't fuck with that.
• 7:56
  Speaker B: So they're doing, like, anything that hurts anybody.
• 7:58
  Speaker A: I don't feel like.
• 7:59
  Speaker B: It's not nice. It's. It's bad. That's a bad phase. I remember there was a phase, separation anxiety phase where I thought.
• 8:08
  Speaker A: I remember that phase.
• 8:09
  Speaker B: I would never be able to do anything. Like, literally not be able to leave the room. Joey was so attached. And then it was Rocco and Vienna didn't really go through it. But I remember, like, being in the thick of it where it was like, I really can't ever see myself being able to do anything ever again because they'll just scream and cry. And then my mom heart hurts because even if I'm away, like, I just remember it being so hard. And, like, I remember Joey was really bad. Joey was pretty bad. Yeah. Like, I thought he'd never be able to go to school. Like, I. I really thought that, like, in that moment of him, it was over.
• 8:47
  Speaker A: It was life or death. It was like, yeah.
• 8:49
  Speaker B: So, like. But, like, it ends and it's fine. And, like, then you're on to the next. Yeah, and you're on to the next.
• 8:54
  Speaker A: The problem is, like, the phases don't end, which is fine. Like, you thank God it's over, but the phases just don't end. So It's.
• 8:59
  Speaker B: No, no. It's just the next one just comes.
• 9:00
  Speaker A: But then, like you said before, nobody
• 9:02
  Speaker B: tells you, like, motherhood is just phase after the next.
• 9:05
  Speaker A: It's like, yeah, like, it really never ends. And then you get to, like, puberty, and then you get to, like, adolescence.
• 9:11
  Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
• 9:12
  Speaker A: And then you get to, like, maybe, like, a fighting stage. Then you get to, like, God forbid, a drug stage, and you get a drinking stage.
• 9:19
  Speaker B: There's all.
• 9:20
  Speaker A: It's like, then. Then they get married, and then they have family issues. It's like, it really never ends as a mother. But then the other part of it is, like, the sentimental side ends too. Like, right now, he's like. Like, lay with me, Mommy. Cuddle me, Mommy. Hold me, Mommy. He's doing this new thing. He'll go, mommy, my belly hurts. And, like, he just wants me to, like, rub him and lay with him, but, like, his belly doesn't hurt. Like, I don't want that to end.
• 9:43
  Speaker B: Rocco wants me to sing Belly, Belly, go away. And he just sits there and. Yeah, and then you're grieving the. The phase that, like, you're missing or nobody ever talks about the. When the last time is the last time. Like, the last time they asked to be picked up or the last time. I don't know, even, like, the. The last time you're doing, like, a feeding, if you're breastfeeding, or, like, I
• 10:04
  Speaker A: don't think about it now because, like, I know I'm not done having kids. Like, I know I'm gonna start over. It might hit you more that the last time is happening because you have no. Like, you're not having kids.
• 10:14
  Speaker B: Well, I'm not trying to start bawling right now, so I can't say no more, you know? And you. And you really don't think about that while it's happening, because I think your. Your mind can't let you go there.
• 10:28
  Speaker A: Like, no, no, you just. Your mind is Let you go there, and it just happens, and then. Then you look back on it. You know what I mean?
• 10:35
  Speaker B: I. At every birthday, I do, like, a video of, like, this is your last sleep before you're three. Like, I have a video of it. But, like, that's so sad. It's like the last time they're ever two. Yeah. Like, and. But like, I've never looked back and watched those videos. But it's like, it's a sad thing.
• 10:52
  Speaker A: Why don't I ever get a new phone, tell you that much?
• 10:55
  Speaker B: Why? Everything's in the cloud.
• 10:57
  Speaker A: I know, but I don't know. I have so much videos and pictures on my phone, sometimes I need to delete them, but I know it's crazy.
• 11:06
  Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It is crazy how they just, like, grow up. I really like having the babies just grow up.
• 11:15
  Speaker A: I know.
• 11:16
  Speaker B: The motherhood lie we all believe when we always say, like, when. When they start sleeping through the night, when they start potty training, it's like, there's always the next thing. It's like, like, you're probably gonna start potty training Gio soon. Right? It's like, okay, like, when is my
• 11:31
  Speaker A: binky stage gonna end?
• 11:32
  Speaker B: Right?
• 11:32
  Speaker A: His binky stage needs to end. His teeth are, like, getting cockle doodle do.
• 11:36
  Speaker B: I mean, Rocco. Rocco's still on a bottle. Like, he needs to get off the bottle.
• 11:40
  Speaker A: He needs to stop.
• 11:41
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 11:41
  Speaker A: And I'm just worried it's like, it's gonna end.
• 11:43
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 11:43
  Speaker A: And when. He's not gonna want the binky.
• 11:45
  Speaker B: Right.
• 11:45
  Speaker A: Like, honestly, I hate to make you feel, like, a certain way, but to me, like, Joey's like, five. Six is, like, old as a big kid to me. Like a toddler.
• 11:54
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 11:54
  Speaker A: Like, right now, Rocco and Gio are still babies to me. Like, as soon as they hit where. But Joey is now I feel like he's not a baby.
• 12:00
  Speaker B: No, I agree.
• 12:01
  Speaker A: But you can't treat them like a baby.
• 12:03
  Speaker B: No, but, like, they're. They're.
• 12:04
  Speaker A: Brandy can still treat like a baby a little bit.
• 12:05
  Speaker B: A little bit. But not really. I mean, yeah, she's like, she's four. But if you look back at, like, the grand scheme of things, like, five is still a baby. Like, think about your childhood, like, when you were five, like, you're still, like, kind of like you're not like, a big kid. You're not running around at all.
• 12:19
  Speaker A: But he's able to, like, be on his own a little bit. Yeah.
• 12:22
  Speaker B: Oh, yeah. He was boogie boarding in the ocean by himself. Yeah. Like. Like, that was like an eye opener. Like, oh, my God. Like, he's actually, like, growing up. Yeah. He doesn't need me the way.
• 12:32
  Speaker A: Yeah. Like, savvy right now. My niece, like, she's gonna be six in December. Like, that. She is such a big girl right now. It's crazy because I think it's because I have a toddler, though.
• 12:44
  Speaker B: Right.
• 12:44
  Speaker A: But, like, to me, it's like, I can't think about this stuff. Like, I just have to go through the motions because I can't think in the future. Like, it stresses me out. So, like, whether it's a sad Or a good or happy or a rough phase. Like, I just have to let it
• 12:58
  Speaker B: pass by, you know, I think you should just. I think that's good to live in the moment of what's happening. Because if you look forward or if you look back, like, looking back is depressing because you're like, oh, my God, I wish I could go back.
• 13:09
  Speaker A: See, I don't look back and, like, look depressed because I. Again, I think it's because I'm gonna have more kids that age, right? So they're going to be that age. It's like, it's. If I only had Gio and I was only ever having Geo, I would be sad because, like, he's never going to be that age again.
• 13:22
  Speaker B: Right.
• 13:22
  Speaker A: But I know my next and my next. My next. Like, they're going to be that age again.
• 13:25
  Speaker B: Yeah, but it's also like. Like, I remember.
• 13:29
  Speaker A: I also think this age is so much more fun.
• 13:31
  Speaker B: Well, yeah, you don't like newborns, but I remember, like, just for example, a phase of, like, only having one kid. If you're only. You're only having one kid, right? Like, I remember being. Knowing that I was going to the hospital to have Vienna and, like, grieving, like, the love that I. That I gave, that I poured into Joey and, like, that phase of, like, only having one kid, like, was over. And I remember, like, feeling like, how am I ever gonna do this? Like, how am I ever gonna enter this next phase of having two babies? And it's like, I wasn't thinking. I was thinking that some of the love that I was gonna have from Joey was gonna be taken away to give to the second kid. But really it just grows. So it's like, yeah, like, you just. It's just like your heart doubles and then it triples into a different phase. And then it's like watching the siblings,
• 14:23
  Speaker A: but, like, Joey went through a phase. Your next went through a different phase. And they. They're the same eras, but they're different phases. It's like, yeah, Vienna wasn't climbing out of her crib, but she wanted to sleep in, like, a different crib. So it was like, kind of like.
• 14:35
  Speaker B: Yeah, and I.
• 14:36
  Speaker A: Same, same, but different.
• 14:37
  Speaker B: I think. I think the phase of, like, growing your family and watching the sibling love is, like a very special phase. And that phase doesn't. Hopefully doesn't end, like. Cause you just watch them and you watch them grow in different ways.
• 14:51
  Speaker A: There's nothing better than watching kids play together like that.
• 14:54
  Speaker B: Yesterday, Rocco was sleeping on the couch and Joey was, like, mom, can I just snuggle him? I was like, do not wake him up. He just passed out. He's sleeping. He was like, but I just want a little piece of heaven, like. Cause we always say like, if he's laying on us, it's like heaven. And I'm like, okay, like you said that like, go for it. So he just like goes and just like hugs Rocco like this. And I'm like, just watching their love is like the cutest thing and it's so special. But like every.
• 15:21
  Speaker A: What other phases are there? I mean, every kid has a different phase. There's just kids. I love sitting with a mom and like. So right now I feel like I just have examples from my own. Like my sister in law started to
• 15:31
  Speaker B: sleep train and sleep training phase.
• 15:35
  Speaker A: Oh my God, she goes right to bed.
• 15:37
  Speaker B: Does she let her cry?
• 15:38
  Speaker A: Yeah, she did when she sleep trained, but not anymore. She just goes to bed. But there's so many phases. Like, what about the phases that they aren't pooping? Like that's a phase where they have like constipation.
• 15:49
  Speaker B: Oh my God.
• 15:49
  Speaker A: Like I. I remember it's not even just sleep regrets. It's not like the textbook phases. There's so many different phases.
• 15:54
  Speaker B: There's so many. Joey, he was totally potty trained. Except for that he would not poop on the potty. So he was three and a half. And I remember being in it, like thinking like, I'm gonna fuck this kid up. Like I had to put a diaper on him to go in the corner so he could poop. Because he would not poop any other way unless it was in a diaper. And like now looking back like, it's not that big of a deal because like now like everyone does their thing on their own time. Like now he poops on the potty like a normal person. Like it's not like anything but I remember being in that phase and being like, am I doing something so wrong? Like, why am I having to put a diaper on him when he's like, mom, I'm about to have diarrhea. I'm like, then go sit on the fucking potty and poop. Like, he just couldn't, right? And then someday it just clicked and then he pooped on the potty.
• 16:37
  Speaker A: Yeah. I had a phase where I didn't shut doors. Like, I refused to like shut a door. Like someone have to come to the bathroom and hold it open for me. That was like a huge phase in my life. And I remember it like as you just were Scared. Shut the door. I got locked in my mom's bathroom, like, as a kid, and I couldn't get out for hours. It wasn't hours. It felt like hours. It was probably 10 minutes. And ever since then, even kind of now, I get a little whacked out. It was a long, long phase.
• 17:02
  Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, there. There are so many different phases in life. Not even, like, as a mother, but, like. Like, the come into our. From childhood that come into parenting. Like, I just feel like everything. You just have to, like, go with the punches.
• 17:18
  Speaker A: You can. You can't. I say to my husband all the time, like, just don't let it bother you. He's going to eat when he wants to eat, and soon enough it's gonna be behind us and he's gonna be eating like, a gavon, and we won't even think about the fact that he didn't eat for so long.
• 17:31
  Speaker B: Yeah, it's true. Like, Joe will. Joey will now eat everything. And, like, there was a phase where he didn't eat anything.
• 17:37
  Speaker A: He's very picky.
• 17:38
  Speaker B: He was so picky. And I was like, he's gonna be now nourished. Like, no, they're just kids, and they go through these things, and they will be okay. And if you're in the trenches of it right now, just know, like, it really will.
• 17:52
  Speaker A: It does get better. Like, I can't express that enough. Like, I feel like when I even talk to, like, the family members around me that are, like, had a kids after me, I'm like, it's just a phase. Gia went through it. It goes away. Like, it just. It really does. And it doesn't feel that way when you're in it because it's your whole world.
• 18:06
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 18:07
  Speaker A: Like, it literally is your whole world. Like, nothing else matters. Yeah. But it does. It ends. The phase ends, and then they move on to the next phase. But it does end.
• 18:15
  Speaker B: Yeah, I know. I'm in, like, I'm in, like, the cross between where I'm. I want my kids to be independent and play on their own. But, like, I'm seeing. I'm slowly seeing the phase of them, like, wanting me to actually play with them is, like, kind of dwindling.
• 18:30
  Speaker A: I kind of doing. I'm doing that now, too. Like, it's kind of so much fun to, like, play with it.
• 18:33
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 18:33
  Speaker A: I mean, but when it's, like, real play. Like, we're playing basketball. Right Last. The other night, I was doing. We were watching Rookie of the Year on Netflix, like, one of my favorite movies. He was Running bases around our island. It was the cutest thing. I was having him hit a ball.
• 18:46
  Speaker B: Yeah. And.
• 18:47
  Speaker A: And I was going baseball. Base two, base three. Come, home, come. It was so much fun. We were cracking up.
• 18:52
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 18:52
  Speaker A: Like, and he was sliding into bass like this.
• 18:54
  Speaker B: Playing like that is so fun. My kids are, like, into making skits and doing, like, plays like that now. Like, that's, like, so fun. And I just, like, was watching and, like, I don't want this phase to end. Like, so fun them.
• 19:05
  Speaker A: We have so much time.
• 19:06
  Speaker B: Yeah. Like, it was just like, really good family fun. So much fun where it's like, I don't know. I just. I want to hold on to that phase.
• 19:16
  Speaker A: Yeah. Well, it's. It's gonna be a while. That fate. Like, all your kids still have so much time to grow up.
• 19:22
  Speaker B: Yeah. And, yeah, they just want to be playing. Yeah.
• 19:26
  Speaker A: So much fun. So phases end, new phases come. There's hell phases and there's good phases.
• 19:34
  Speaker B: Yes.
• 19:35
  Speaker A: But motherhood's not easy, so.
• 19:37
  Speaker B: No, it's not. And just hold on to the one Just know.
• 19:41
  Speaker A: I mean, Emily's biggest thing to me is the phase ends. It's just a phase. No, that's what you're saying. It's just a phase.
• 19:48
  Speaker B: It's true, though. I've never felt it so much. Like, in my bones. Then after watching, like, all my kids go through something that I thought was the worst thing in the whole entire world, and then it ends.
• 19:59
  Speaker A: I feel like you had hard phases. You.
• 20:01
  Speaker B: I mean, I just think that Gio
• 20:03
  Speaker A: never climbed out of his crib. Like, I never had to, like, sleep next to his crib. Like, I didn't have to do any of that hard shit that, like, derails you as a mother.
• 20:12
  Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, there was a phase where Joey Woke up at 4:45 every morning, like, ready to go. Now he really does push it to, like, 5:36, like he's just an early bird. But, like, it was 4:45 no matter what. And I was like, this is just my life for the rest of my life. I have to wake up at 4:45.
• 20:33
  Speaker A: That's what I say. I'm like, this is gonna be me for the rest of my life.
• 20:35
  Speaker B: No, it ends. But, like, when you're in it, you really, truly think it's never going to end.
• 20:40
  Speaker A: I know.
• 20:41
  Speaker B: Especially when you're living day by day, minute by minute. Like, so I didn't sign the kids up for camp, so I would say Wednesday. So Monday, Tuesday, I was alone with them. Right. And I Was like, what did I do? Like, how am I going to survive the summer?
• 20:58
  Speaker A: How did you do that? Why didn't you sign them up?
• 21:00
  Speaker B: I mean, I'm a. I'm. I just that I didn't want to. Like, I wanted to be home with them. Like, I can complain all that. I can complain all I want, but also it's what I wanted. So whatever, let me do it. But like, it's just funny. Like I was like this and then I like. And then I like, see a meme or see something that's like, your kid will never be this little again as they are right before they go into primary school. So, like, Joey's going into a new school. He's going into first grade. Like, this is his last summer being like this little. I'm like, okay, so I have to watch every second of it because it's over.
• 21:33
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 21:34
  Speaker B: And it's so sad.
• 21:34
  Speaker A: I know. It grows. It goes by so fast.
• 21:36
  Speaker B: It goes by so, so fast.
• 21:38
  Speaker A: It's like so hard for me to relate because, like, I still have like
• 21:40
  Speaker B: a little baby, right? You still have a baby. So that's.
• 21:42
  Speaker A: I mean, I feel bad for you. You're gonna be okay.
• 21:46
  Speaker B: Yeah, it's fine. I'll just have.
• 21:47
  Speaker A: I mean, I just think it gets better. That's just my opinion.
• 21:50
  Speaker B: Yeah. And that's the other thing. Like, it's so fun. Like we were down the shore, like we were all playing like on the beach. Like just like together. And it was just like if you
• 22:00
  Speaker A: didn't have Rocco love him to death, but like, you really would be lounging if you didn't have Rocco.
• 22:04
  Speaker B: Yeah. Well, I think it is getting easier now as time goes on, as he get. As he's getting older. But yeah, like having a five year old and a four year old, like, life is good. You don't. I mean, I ran out the other day without a diaper bag. Like, you just, you just do. You just go. They hop in the car, they can buckle themselves like that. That's the sweet life.
• 22:27
  Speaker A: You're holding a Zorocco by a thread.
• 22:28
  Speaker B: That's the sweet life.
• 22:30
  Speaker A: You will not let him go.
• 22:31
  Speaker B: No. And honestly, I don't care because I know it'll be gone before I know it. So he can be a baby for as long as he will let me.
• 22:38
  Speaker A: I'm stuck on a binky.
• 22:39
  Speaker B: I mean, I'm stuck on your nipple.
• 22:42
  Speaker A: Who cares?
• 22:43
  Speaker B: I mean, if he would, I'd let him.
• 22:46
  Speaker A: Literally. Can't. Well, that's a good one. Great job.
• 22:52
  Speaker B: No, but the moms out there that are in it. Like, there are so many phases that you are trying to wish away. And I've been through them. I also remember when Joey was a newborn and he was on seizure medicines because he had seizures when he was born. And trying to get a little baby. I forget about this. A syringe, like a tiny syringe of seizure medicine into his little newborn mouth. Like, I was like, I. I don't know if I could do this every day. And then like, after, when he was cleared, like, it's done. Like, I haven't thought about that in five years until just right now. And then I'm just thinking about a phase where Rocco would not take medicine. I would try to give him the Tylenol or the antibiotic, and it's like he spits it out. It's a fight. Or how about the phase where, like, you need to change their diaper and they're tossing and turning and there's shit in the diaper and, like, you can't.
• 23:41
  Speaker A: Are you. Is that phase over?
• 23:42
  Speaker B: Yeah, it's over for me. You have to hold them down. You have to do it. It's like the worst phase.
• 23:46
  Speaker A: Oh, my God, that's another. That's the kick in and the kicking goes everywhere. I want to literally take my left paw.
• 23:52
  Speaker B: I know.
• 23:53
  Speaker A: And just knock him out.
• 23:54
  Speaker B: Yeah, I know.
• 23:55
  Speaker A: Like, it's so the kicking, the throwing and the changing of the diaper and putting clothes on my kid.
• 24:00
  Speaker B: Oh, the clothes.
• 24:01
  Speaker A: The worst phase right now.
• 24:02
  Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, there are so many phases like, that we're not even thinking about right now. So. Comment in the comment section, please, because
• 24:10
  Speaker A: we fucking need comments.
• 24:11
  Speaker B: No, but seriously, like, all the moms out there who are in it, the phases will end. But, like, also, now that I'm thinking about, like, I miss that. Like, I want to wrestle Joey down to change his diaper. He's five years old.
• 24:24
  Speaker A: You want it back.
• 24:25
  Speaker B: You want it back. So it's like that.
• 24:28
  Speaker A: I'll end on this. Like, I saw something. It was like, you never realized the last time your kids were gonna play outside, like, with other kids, why won't
• 24:37
  Speaker B: they play outside when they get older?
• 24:38
  Speaker A: They don't do that. Like, you don't. You never realize the last.
• 24:43
  Speaker B: Yeah.
• 24:43
  Speaker A: You don't time that's gonna happen.
• 24:45
  Speaker B: Yeah. Or like, the last time they're on the changing table. Like, I remember taking the changing table topper off of the dresser. And now, like, in Joey's room, he has just, like, a plain dresser without the topper. And I'm like, oh, my God, you never really. People don't talk about, like, the last time that you don't need that topper. Or like, you change the crib into a toddler crib and, like, you don't have the rail anymore. Or, like, just like, things like that. Or. Or you get rid of the car seat. Like, Joey wants a booster seat so bad.
• 25:09
  Speaker A: Why are you giving him one?
• 25:11
  Speaker B: I think I'm holding on to the car seat.
• 25:13
  Speaker A: Okay. Can't even fit in a car seat.
• 25:15
  Speaker B: He's like, borderline. But, like, also, car seats are safer no matter what.
• 25:18
  Speaker A: Totally.
• 25:19
  Speaker B: So like the five. Five strap, five star whatever. But he wants a booster seat so bad. But I'm holding on to him just in a car seat. I don't know, like, but it's a phase. Like, then. Then they'll all be in sisters and then he'll be in the front seat and then they'll be fighting. They'll be calling shotgun. Like, that'll be a whole another fight. Oh, my God, the shotgun. So crazy.
• 25:40
  Speaker A: I kind of love it, though.
• 25:41
  Speaker B: What's your shotgun rule? Do you have to see the car to shotgun? Oh, I wonder what mine will be. I think you have to see the car.
• 25:48
  Speaker A: Just say it.
• 25:48
  Speaker B: All right, fine.
• 25:49
  Speaker A: Because let called it this weekend. She's like, shotgun. I was like, I missed it.
• 25:52
  Speaker B: Oh, okay, cool.
• 25:55
  Speaker A: Okay, cool.
• 25:56
  Speaker B: Gotta go.
• 25:56
  Speaker A: All right. This was so fun. Thanks for talking about phases with us, mama. Clock out.
• 26:00
  Speaker B: Clocking out.
• 26:01
  Speaker A: Bye.
• 26:01
  Speaker B: Bye.