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- 0:09Speaker 1: This is the bold reform It Tonight, Baby Joyce says
- 0:15Speaker 1: goodbye to an ABC star who mocked him and is
- 0:19Speaker 1: now leaving the National broadcaster. Plus, of course, is going
- 0:22Speaker 1: to comment on the mad reaction to Pauline Hanson's speech yesterday. Well,
- 0:27Speaker 1: so tonight Donald Trump's peace plant revealed Oh do you
- 0:31Speaker 1: eat me? And I am actually going to do something
- 0:35Speaker 1: very unusual. I Am going to beg beg for donations
- 0:39Speaker 1: to the left wing group behind yesterday's anti Hansen stunt,
- 0:43Speaker 1: and when you see his record you will know why.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Plenty more, including the British couple who had a Russian
- 0:49Speaker 1: warship fire warning shots as they sailed in their English channel.
- 0:53Speaker 1: But first, the reaction today to paul In Hanson's big
- 0:58Speaker 1: speech yesterday says so much. In particular, it says it's
- 1:02Speaker 1: almost impossible to have an honest and fair debate on
- 1:06Speaker 1: the multiculturalism that is turning us into a country of tribes.
- 1:11Speaker 1: The multiculturalism that Hansen wants to end.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Undeniably, immigration or immigration policy has our country in the
- 1:22Speaker 2: state of crisis. At the center of this crisis is
- 1:26Speaker 2: the utterly flawed policy of multiculturalism.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Well that part of her speech is should been on
- 1:34Speaker 1: for a little while on that triggered such a storm
- 1:38Speaker 1: of lies and hysteria from the ABC, from the multicultural bureaucracy,
- 1:45Speaker 1: and even from Opposition leader Angus Taylor. It was all
- 1:49Speaker 1: just disgraceful. And I'll show you. Let's start with the ABC.
- 1:55Speaker 1: I mean, this is red hot. This morning, ABC Melbourne
- 1:58Speaker 1: Radio played this excerpt from Hanson's speech, cunningly taken completely
- 2:04Speaker 1: out of contexts and I'll later show you how to
- 2:07Speaker 1: make it seem she was just against margarants speaking another
- 2:11Speaker 1: language at home.
- 2:13Speaker 2: The twenty twenty one cents has shown that one in
- 2:16Speaker 2: four people twenty three percent speak a language other than
- 2:20Speaker 2: English at home, the most common being Mandarin and Arabic.
- 2:26Speaker 2: How can you generate social coesion if people can't speak
- 2:29Speaker 2: the language.
- 2:32Speaker 1: And stopped there? And if you stop there, yeah, well
- 2:35Speaker 1: let it sound bad. You know in the ABC and
- 2:39Speaker 1: the Green saving on and on about that. You know
- 2:41Speaker 1: what a racist Hansen was And how dumb to think
- 2:45Speaker 1: that if you spoke a foreign language at home, you
- 2:47Speaker 1: couldn't speak English and on the street or in the
- 2:51Speaker 1: TV studio. Last night of the ABC and its seven
- 2:55Speaker 1: thirty show, the host there Sarah Ferguson's seems so sure
- 3:01Speaker 1: that this is what One Nation was saying that she
- 3:04Speaker 1: even stated as fact that One Nation's Barnaby Joyce was
- 3:08Speaker 1: sitting right in front of her had said exactly that.
- 3:12Speaker 3: So that that is a yes, That is a yes
- 3:15Speaker 3: from you to that question. You think there are too
- 3:17Speaker 3: many people in Australia we're speaking Mandarin at home.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Oh no, no, you're verbling me. Yeah, he hadn't said
- 3:25Speaker 1: any such thing. But anyway, let me now show you
- 3:28Speaker 1: how dishonest the ABC was when it presented just that
- 3:31Speaker 1: bit of the handsome quote I played you how it
- 3:36Speaker 1: played only that and not the very next thing she said,
- 3:41Speaker 1: which put it actually into context and exposed the real problem.
- 3:47Speaker 2: How can you generate social coesion if people can't speak
- 3:50Speaker 2: the language. In that same sensus, eight hundred and seventy
- 3:54Speaker 2: two thousand people self reported as speaking English not well
- 4:02Speaker 2: or not at all.
- 4:05Speaker 1: There you go, there, you go. There, that's what bothered her. Okay,
- 4:09Speaker 1: the fact that three and a half percent of Australians
- 4:13Speaker 1: can't actually speak English at all or not well. Now,
- 4:20Speaker 1: clearly that's a real problem, isn't it. Don't you think
- 4:23Speaker 1: it's a worrying sign of just how much we're becoming
- 4:26Speaker 1: a nation of tribes. I mean, when when so many
- 4:29Speaker 1: of us are literally unable to talk to each other.
- 4:33Speaker 1: I mean really, And in fact, you know, you look around,
- 4:37Speaker 1: immigration in some big city suburbs now looks more like colonization,
- 4:42Speaker 1: shopping strips with sign after sign in languages not English.
- 4:48Speaker 1: And this is the issue which of course the ABC
- 4:51Speaker 1: refuses to discuss. And it's the challenge that I've tried
- 4:55Speaker 1: to raise for many years with the mass immigration, how
- 4:58Speaker 1: do we create a community out of a nation of tribes,
- 5:03Speaker 1: particularly with identity politics, how do we create a community
- 5:08Speaker 1: with shared values and shared loyalties, like the way we
- 5:11Speaker 1: created the sokkar Us at the World Cup out of
- 5:14Speaker 1: people of so many backgrounds, all sharing the same values,
- 5:17Speaker 1: all sharing the same love of the team, all kicking
- 5:19Speaker 1: in the same direction. Now, Hansa says, the Bondai massacre
- 5:25Speaker 1: of Jews that was Australia's big wake up about this.
- 5:28Speaker 1: But honestly, Australia should have woken up at least a
- 5:31Speaker 1: decade ago to this danger of having tribes here no
- 5:35Speaker 1: longer sharing our values and loyalties, because that was when
- 5:39Speaker 1: some two hundred and fifty Muslim Australians went overseas to
- 5:44Speaker 1: serve with the Islamic State terrorist Army, more than double
- 5:48Speaker 1: the number of Muslims then serving with the Army of Australia.
- 5:52Speaker 1: The tony Abba.
- 5:53Speaker 4: I say this, these weapons that we have, these soldiers,
- 5:56Speaker 4: we will not stop fighting.
- 6:00Speaker 1: So yes, we do have a huge challenge. But Hanson
- 6:03Speaker 1: haters are still trying to scream down anyone who tries
- 6:07Speaker 1: to raise it. And this time, of course, again it's
- 6:10Speaker 1: Hans and Stern. Now Hanson, did I have to say
- 6:14Speaker 1: say something clumsy yesterday that did give her haters an
- 6:18Speaker 1: excuse to really let fly at her. I mean they
- 6:22Speaker 1: were just delighted to miss her real point.
- 6:25Speaker 2: We cannot be a multicultural society. We are a multi
- 6:32Speaker 2: racial society, but we must be mono cultural. Australians must
- 6:39Speaker 2: live under the one cultural umbrella.
- 6:43Speaker 1: Now Here is where I criticize Hansen, because look, I
- 6:47Speaker 1: actually understand exactly what she means. But to say that
- 6:51Speaker 1: she wants us to be a monoculture, well that was
- 6:54Speaker 1: actually misleading, badly explained because in a country like this,
- 6:59Speaker 1: of course we all have our own cultures. Have my
- 7:02Speaker 1: Dutch clogs for the governors should have brought them in.
- 7:05Speaker 1: I have a painting of a windmill in my library.
- 7:07Speaker 1: But the government's job, you know, I think that's fine.
- 7:11Speaker 1: I mean, that's natural. That's what we're all going to do.
- 7:13Speaker 1: But the government's job is not to subsidize our cultural differences.
- 7:18Speaker 1: It's not to subsidize ethnic clubs or mosques or whatever.
- 7:22Speaker 1: You know, we can go and do all that. It's
- 7:24Speaker 1: not to pay for ethnic TV and radio shows, nor
- 7:28Speaker 1: should I add is the government. Is it the government's
- 7:31Speaker 1: job to create aboriginal courts and welfare like, you know,
- 7:35Speaker 1: a different system for one people at one race. People
- 7:39Speaker 1: can go off and have their own little cultures like me.
- 7:42Speaker 1: That's perfectly fine. But the government's job is to support
- 7:47Speaker 1: instead what unites us Australia days, ceremonies antec dap parais,
- 7:52Speaker 1: museums celebrating our history, statues, honoring the people who actually
- 7:56Speaker 1: built what we're all now enjoying. Things like that, respect
- 8:00Speaker 1: for tradition and respect for the laws that bind us
- 8:04Speaker 1: one law for all. And that is in fact what
- 8:09Speaker 1: Hanson obviously meant by monoculture, as she indeed explained to
- 8:14Speaker 1: Chris Kenny and aur And half ago.
- 8:17Speaker 2: It's not just about the culture of person, it's about
- 8:19Speaker 2: the culture of the nation. Who we are, our traditions,
- 8:22Speaker 2: our own cultures, our language, our dress, our laws. These
- 8:26Speaker 2: are all monoculture.
- 8:31Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd have to be dishonest or a complete moron
- 8:34Speaker 1: not to have known that that is what she meant. Okay,
- 8:37Speaker 1: but godly me. I mean, check the venom of the
- 8:41Speaker 1: responses today again from the AVEC, plus you know, the
- 8:46Speaker 1: Governor's Human Rights Commission, from the multicultural bureaucrats. The government's
- 8:52Speaker 1: also paid a praise and push multiculturalism. I mean, this
- 8:56Speaker 1: entire superstructure, government funded is what you're up against. Will
- 9:01Speaker 1: you dare to challenge the multicultural cult?
- 9:06Speaker 5: It actually angers me to see someone who in a
- 9:10Speaker 5: public position is dividing us through hate.
- 9:13Speaker 3: He's making the case that there is something fundamentally wrong
- 9:16Speaker 3: about coming from another country.
- 9:18Speaker 6: That was a speech that really punched down on a
- 9:23Speaker 6: lot of Australians, with tax on Muslims, on migrants, a.
- 9:26Speaker 7: Statements on nothing other than opportunity.
- 9:28Speaker 8: Can feel mongering.
- 9:31Speaker 1: Honestly, defund them all the left wing the of Cosmos
- 9:36Speaker 1: newspaper that at least doesn't get government front well a
- 9:38Speaker 1: bit of check that bit, it's for Greeks. It totally
- 9:42Speaker 1: lost the plot, claiming Hanson's attack on multiculturalism as attack
- 9:47Speaker 1: on Greeks. Hanson's war and multiculturalism is a war on
- 9:51Speaker 1: our language, our faith in everything we built. I mean
- 9:54Speaker 1: to the hysteric that wrote that for just Capitopolis, I mean, mate, seriously,
- 10:04Speaker 1: you really think the answer is attacking the Greek language,
- 10:07Speaker 1: the Greek Orthodox Church, I mean every Greek business is
- 10:12Speaker 1: attacking seriously, seriously, paranoid mate. But what was more serious
- 10:20Speaker 1: politically was the reaction of opposition leader Angus Taylor, who
- 10:27Speaker 1: smeared Hansen as a racist and falsely accused her of
- 10:31Speaker 1: judging people by the color of their skin.
- 10:34Speaker 9: Do you support abolishing multiculturalism in favor of a monoculture.
- 10:39Speaker 10: I judge people on their character and their conduct. That's
- 10:42Speaker 10: how the liberal and national parties approached things. If she
- 10:46Speaker 10: wants to judge people based on the color of their
- 10:49Speaker 10: skin or their race, one nation needs to.
- 10:53Speaker 1: Explain that, Angus, you just made that up. You know,
- 10:58Speaker 1: every time I want to give Angus the benefit of
- 11:00Speaker 1: the doubt to show my even handedness, he does something
- 11:03Speaker 1: stupid like that Multiculturalism is a poisonous policy, and it's
- 11:08Speaker 1: dangerous when it comes at a time like this of
- 11:10Speaker 1: mass immigration, when a third of us were now born overseas,
- 11:15Speaker 1: which is an extraordinary number. Extraordinary. Now, if Hanson is
- 11:20Speaker 1: wrong about multiculturalism, then look, please guys, just calmly explain why.
- 11:28Speaker 1: But when I hear these smears, these misrepresentations, this cunning
- 11:35Speaker 1: and deceitful little you know, cutting up of quotes, saha
- 11:39Speaker 1: out of context, all I can think of is that
- 11:41Speaker 1: the multicultural bullies have got nothing and the ABC Hanson
- 11:48Speaker 1: is dead right, sell it. I mean I feel dirty
- 11:52Speaker 1: paying for that with my taxes. Meanwhile, huge back down
- 12:01Speaker 1: today from the empty alban easy and no wonder I
- 12:04Speaker 1: guess when polls say more strands would rather Pauline Hanson
- 12:07Speaker 1: replace them. As Prime Minister. Albanis has been smashed as
- 12:10Speaker 1: a liar for breaking his promise not to cut back
- 12:12Speaker 1: the capital gains tax discounts. That's what he promised not
- 12:16Speaker 1: to change. Trust did exactly the opposite of the budget.
- 12:18Speaker 1: Well today he and treasured Jim Charmers said oops, they
- 12:21Speaker 1: will now exempt a lot more small business from the
- 12:24Speaker 1: cuts they had announced in the budget.
- 12:27Speaker 9: We are announcing details to allow more small businesses access
- 12:32Speaker 9: to the capital gains tax concessions.
- 12:36Speaker 1: So now the exemption from their changes applies to businesses
- 12:39Speaker 1: with a turnover up to ten million dollars, up from two.
- 12:42Speaker 1: And there's more. The so called death tax has also gone.
- 12:45Speaker 1: That extra tax on testamentary discretionary trusts. That's also gone
- 12:51Speaker 1: for anyone that's handing out income for genuine testamentary reasons.
- 12:56Speaker 1: And Albaniz he said the government was still consulting on
- 12:59Speaker 1: somehow exempting startups from that couple of gains tax changes.
- 13:02Speaker 1: So it all seemed a bit Russian and panicky, but
- 13:04Speaker 1: the government still denying the obvious. Of course, this is
- 13:09Speaker 1: quite a backflip, isn't it Not at all?
- 13:15Speaker 2: This is the outcome of the consultation that we flagged
- 13:19Speaker 2: in the budget papers themselves.
- 13:24Speaker 1: What a mess and the Opposites leader attacked.
- 13:29Speaker 10: This budget is in chaos. It is in tatters because
- 13:34Speaker 10: the government simply got it wrong from the start. No
- 13:38Speaker 10: point going on with these carve outs.
- 13:40Speaker 1: Scrap it. I've joined bare Thursday regular former Deputy Prome
- 13:45Speaker 1: Minister that Barnaby Joyce now one Nation's Treasury spokesman. Barnaby
- 13:49Speaker 1: be great to see you, and the treasure says, this
- 13:52Speaker 1: backdown isn't a back down? Well, is this non backdown
- 13:56Speaker 1: a big enough backdown for you?
- 13:58Speaker 7: Jim?
- 13:59Speaker 11: What does the bus look like when you're underneath it
- 14:01Speaker 11: and it's driving. We talk about throwing his treasure under
- 14:08Speaker 11: a bus, which he had to do because you should
- 14:11Speaker 11: have been the budget.
- 14:12Speaker 1: It's a disaster.
- 14:13Speaker 7: I mean, we can see this coming a mile away.
- 14:15Speaker 7: I wrote about these ages ago. I just said, look mate,
- 14:17Speaker 7: that Vicky wrote about.
- 14:19Speaker 11: Sorry, there's a but that you can hear the churning
- 14:22Speaker 11: of this bus warming up in the back room and
- 14:25Speaker 11: its driver is a member for Gradler and Jim.
- 14:28Speaker 7: Is called I don't know, amac. It just go right
- 14:33Speaker 7: over the top of because it was a disaster we
- 14:35Speaker 7: were in. It was the most panned.
- 14:37Speaker 11: Budget in my time in politics, a complete train wreck,
- 14:41Speaker 11: and it hasn't really got a lot better.
- 14:46Speaker 1: But so they lay it started, back down, back down
- 14:49Speaker 1: from a give let me get us rode. It's it's
- 14:53Speaker 1: a lie about a back down. That was attack that
- 14:58Speaker 1: was introduced by a lie. I mean, at least they're consistent, barnaby,
- 15:01Speaker 1: So I'll give them that. Today, Paul and Hanson's speech
- 15:05Speaker 1: attacking multiculturalism. It was in turn attacked as mean and
- 15:10Speaker 1: divisive and racist by people including the Human Rights Commission,
- 15:15Speaker 1: the Government's on Voy against Islamophobia, Anthony albinezi Angus Taylor,
- 15:23Speaker 1: the Greens that one, and the ABC. Well I don't
- 15:27Speaker 1: worry about that one, but I just wanted to I
- 15:29Speaker 1: wanted to get a nice list bulking it up, and
- 15:31Speaker 1: the Greens and the ABC as well. Of course, with
- 15:34Speaker 1: all these people against that, does that prove that Paul
- 15:37Speaker 1: and Hanson's speech was bad?
- 15:40Speaker 6: Proves that she has the strength to say the bleeding
- 15:43Speaker 6: obvious that.
- 15:45Speaker 7: You can't have you can't have multiculturalism.
- 15:48Speaker 11: You have to have Australian guard rails and you work
- 15:51Speaker 11: within those guardrails. Because if you believe all cultural all cultures,
- 15:56Speaker 11: are of an equivalence, then I suppose if you had
- 15:58Speaker 11: the inca culture here with those we've got to drop
- 16:00Speaker 11: your head off and take your heart out and roll
- 16:02Speaker 11: your head down the steps of the pyramid so that
- 16:05Speaker 11: some will rise.
- 16:05Speaker 7: Well, that's a culture. There's a civilization. It just has
- 16:09Speaker 7: no equivalents.
- 16:10Speaker 6: And if and in a culture in its literal form,
- 16:13Speaker 6: it says you've got to kill these people because they're
- 16:17Speaker 6: not appropriate, then I'm sorry, we can't accept that in Australia.
- 16:21Speaker 6: I don't know where Angus was very disappointed with Angus.
- 16:25Speaker 11: We have no problems with the color of your skin,
- 16:27Speaker 11: we have no problems with your faith, no problems with
- 16:30Speaker 11: your creed. We're just saying that within Australia you must
- 16:32Speaker 11: work within the Australian guardrails. And some of the people
- 16:36Speaker 11: who want you to work within the guardrails listen to this,
- 16:39Speaker 11: are like the Gate community. They said, well, if you
- 16:41Speaker 11: work outside the guardrails, we're in trouble because some of
- 16:45Speaker 11: these cultures say that we're an anthema. We have to
- 16:49Speaker 11: be thrown off a building, and that is just completely
- 16:52Speaker 11: and utterly untenable.
- 16:56Speaker 1: And I would actually say to the Human Rights one
- 16:58Speaker 1: of those commissioners, you know, who said you think one
- 17:01Speaker 1: culture is better than another, You don't even have to
- 17:04Speaker 1: say that, you just have to say it. Slide the
- 17:06Speaker 1: traffic lanes right. There's no inherent virtue in everyone having
- 17:10Speaker 1: to stick to the left or drive to the right,
- 17:12Speaker 1: like in America. It's just if you're going to have it,
- 17:15Speaker 1: it's all. It's just as it's just safer for everyone
- 17:19Speaker 1: if in one country. We all stick to one lane.
- 17:22Speaker 1: It's not to say left is better than right. It's
- 17:24Speaker 1: just just stick to one lane. Now, do you think
- 17:27Speaker 1: it's bizarre? Did you think it was bizarre last night? Baby?
- 17:30Speaker 1: So there you sitting there right saying what you say,
- 17:33Speaker 1: and then you get ABC's Sarah Ferguson stating as a
- 17:37Speaker 1: fact to your face that you actually thought there were
- 17:41Speaker 1: too many Chinese people here speaking Mandarin at home.
- 17:44Speaker 7: I love Sarah.
- 17:47Speaker 12: I play the best game on the balls by days,
- 17:49Speaker 12: and you always know that you on the ship and
- 17:51Speaker 12: Lefty tricks with binary.
- 17:53Speaker 7: You know, do you promise to stop beating your wife?
- 17:56Speaker 4: You know?
- 17:57Speaker 11: Like, I'm sorry, Sarah, I'm not going to ask that
- 17:59Speaker 11: question because it's questions garbage.
- 18:02Speaker 7: I mean, kind of care about how you look, Sarah?
- 18:05Speaker 7: It's not the issue.
- 18:07Speaker 11: It's do you have a common purpose for the benefit
- 18:09Speaker 11: of Australia?
- 18:11Speaker 7: Do you do you love this nation?
- 18:13Speaker 11: Are you do you understand you have to tamper maybe
- 18:16Speaker 11: extraneous views because they run at odds with how the
- 18:21Speaker 11: Australian people as a whole must work.
- 18:24Speaker 1: Do you want you know?
- 18:25Speaker 7: But they once or I took Sarah down a rabbit hole.
- 18:28Speaker 7: I love doing it. I love doing it well.
- 18:30Speaker 1: I said, well, so you know, I thought I thought
- 18:32Speaker 1: you handled it really well. Yeah, you handled it really well.
- 18:35Speaker 1: But I think you're I think you're giving her a
- 18:37Speaker 1: passy because it wasn't a question. It was a dead
- 18:40Speaker 1: set statement that you had just said something you had
- 18:43Speaker 1: not said at all. I mean, it's just.
- 18:45Speaker 7: It's like how to be.
- 18:49Speaker 11: It's like being interviewed by Paul Pott, you know, It's.
- 18:55Speaker 1: It's like, well, you can say whatever you like, and
- 18:58Speaker 1: all she's hearing is, you know, I don't like foreigners.
- 19:02Speaker 1: I don't know foreigners. I don't know foreigners. It's so
- 19:04Speaker 1: stupid now talking about the ABC bars, talking about No, buddy,
- 19:09Speaker 1: don't don't spoil this. I'm really enjoying this question. I
- 19:13Speaker 1: prepared for this one. ABC star Virginia Trioli. She today
- 19:18Speaker 1: announced that she's leaving the ABC after twenty seven years
- 19:21Speaker 1: to explore other creative opportunities, which all sounds a bit
- 19:25Speaker 1: ominous and maybe wonder whether the new broom is now
- 19:28Speaker 1: sweeping out. You know some ABC lovey and Trioli is
- 19:33Speaker 1: the ultimate of ABC lovees. Her bias can be judged
- 19:36Speaker 1: by this reaction. I could not believe my ears when
- 19:40Speaker 1: I heard it. This is just after the September eleven
- 19:43Speaker 1: attacks on America, after al Kaeda leader Ozama bin Laden
- 19:46Speaker 1: was identified correctly as the chief suspect. Trioli actually said
- 19:50Speaker 1: on air, don't attack him, you know, do something touchy feely,
- 19:55Speaker 1: and I quote, now, what if that involved bringing him somewhere?
- 20:00Speaker 1: It is safely sitting down with him, treating him like
- 20:03Speaker 1: a human being and talking about it, and then a
- 20:06Speaker 1: Tama bin Laden going home again, not bumping the hell
- 20:10Speaker 1: out of bin Laden. That's the suggestion. Talk to him,
- 20:14Speaker 1: understand their anger, listen to them. And then, of course,
- 20:18Speaker 1: Barnaby as you very well know yourself.
- 20:23Speaker 13: Because it goes against everything that she sat down in
- 20:27Speaker 13: a diet tribe, which is so one you know, gave
- 20:31Speaker 13: with such dictum as you know on the nine point
- 20:33Speaker 13: Plan some time ago.
- 20:36Speaker 14: For Hayden Cooper joins us.
- 20:37Speaker 1: Now Virginia leaving the ABC A A, yeah, my ABC,
- 20:48Speaker 1: don't you insult me? A? Is it a good move?
- 20:50Speaker 1: And b who should join her? Out the door?
- 20:53Speaker 8: Oh?
- 20:54Speaker 12: Look, you know what I think though, honestly, Andrew is like, look,
- 20:59Speaker 12: they've got a whole, a whole retinue of raving left
- 21:02Speaker 12: is We've got to accept that because some people who
- 21:04Speaker 12: sort of correct towards the middle. I don't, but they've
- 21:07Speaker 12: got to have some right wing commentators.
- 21:10Speaker 7: Otherwise they are public broadcast.
- 21:12Speaker 11: They're getting one point one plus billion dollars a year
- 21:16Speaker 11: and representing probably, you know, fifteen to twenty percent of
- 21:19Speaker 11: this rand community, which means they should only get fifteen
- 21:22Speaker 11: to twenty percent of their funding, or as Pauline said,
- 21:24Speaker 11: they get none at all.
- 21:25Speaker 7: They go to subscription service in regional areas.
- 21:27Speaker 1: We have no problems with the compass, but it's that
- 21:31Speaker 1: you know, Oh look, I totally agree that's got but
- 21:36Speaker 1: they don't. They don't, And what a shock they will
- 21:38Speaker 1: get if and I don't put a high chance of this,
- 21:42Speaker 1: if you win an election, it will be so funny.
- 21:45Speaker 1: Bunnaby Joyce, thank you so much for your time. After
- 21:48Speaker 1: the break, Donald Trump's peace plan revealed and it's the
- 21:52Speaker 1: latest excuse I've got to say, is this craziest yet? Well,
- 22:00Speaker 1: we now have the full text of the so called
- 22:02Speaker 1: peace deal with Iran, which American President Donald Trump formally
- 22:06Speaker 1: signed yesterday in the Palace of Versailles, making fellow dinner
- 22:10Speaker 1: guess white, including host Emmanuel Macron, the French president, and
- 22:14Speaker 1: I can now confirm it's every bit as bad as
- 22:18Speaker 1: I said. In fact, the criticism of this deal is
- 22:20Speaker 1: so bad that Trump is talking tough again, threatening, oh
- 22:23Speaker 1: hell if Run doesn't live up to it.
- 22:25Speaker 15: There's nothing enforceable in the deal itself.
- 22:28Speaker 13: Is that correct?
- 22:29Speaker 7: Doesn't have to be.
- 22:30Speaker 1: I let him know.
- 22:31Speaker 16: I said, look, if you don't adhere to the agreement,
- 22:34Speaker 16: I don't want to do that, but we're going to
- 22:36Speaker 16: bomb the hell out of you. And I don't think
- 22:39Speaker 16: that they're going to averer from the agreement. What else
- 22:42Speaker 16: am I going to do. I'm going to say, I'm
- 22:43Speaker 16: going to take you to court. Let me take you
- 22:45Speaker 16: to court, let me sue you. No, We're going to
- 22:48Speaker 16: bomb the hell out of them if they violate the agreement.
- 22:51Speaker 1: On the other hand, Trump is trying to defend by
- 22:53Speaker 1: the deal doesn't stop it. Run spending the billions is
- 22:56Speaker 1: going to get from this deal on ballistic missiles, and
- 23:00Speaker 1: so many of them soon overwhelmed Israel's anti missile defense.
- 23:03Speaker 1: I mean, this defense of that is just done.
- 23:08Speaker 16: Sure, you shouldn't let them have any missile. I said, well,
- 23:11Speaker 16: what am I going to do? We're going to let
- 23:13Speaker 16: Saudi Arabia have missiles, but they can't have them.
- 23:16Speaker 7: Yes, sir.
- 23:18Speaker 16: Doesn't work that way, you know, it doesn't work that way.
- 23:22Speaker 16: Missiles are at the problem missiles or they hurt a
- 23:25Speaker 16: little location, but they don't blow up the planet.
- 23:29Speaker 1: Actually, a lot of missiless sure destroy Israel and its economy.
- 23:32Speaker 1: Let me go through this deal with Michael Schubridge, a
- 23:34Speaker 1: former senior defense official now founder and director of Strategic
- 23:38Speaker 1: Analysis Australia. Michael, always great to catch up with you.
- 23:41Speaker 1: There are fourteen points of this deal. They're not going
- 23:43Speaker 1: to go through them all, but the very first one
- 23:46Speaker 1: is already amazing and as outrage Israeli politicians politicians. It
- 23:50Speaker 1: says the US in Iran and their allies in the
- 23:53Speaker 1: war declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations
- 23:57Speaker 1: on all fronts, including in On. So Trump has made
- 24:01Speaker 1: a deal without telling Israel to sup Israel fighting the
- 24:05Speaker 1: hespital a terrorist army in Lebanon, that Israel, that Iran
- 24:09Speaker 1: actually pays to attack Israel. Do you find that extraordinary?
- 24:15Speaker 8: I do, and you're right. The text actually seeks to
- 24:18Speaker 8: bind US allies, which obviously includes Israel, and it talks
- 24:23Speaker 8: about complete end to military operations in Lebanon and reinforcing
- 24:30Speaker 8: Lebanese territorial sovereignty. So Israel hadn't even got a copy
- 24:37Speaker 8: of this text before it was agreed. So Israel has
- 24:42Speaker 8: been isolated with this agreement. And Prime Minister Netan Yahoo
- 24:47Speaker 8: has already said, well, he's not actually going to withdraw
- 24:49Speaker 8: the Israeli military from southern Lebanon. So there's now a
- 24:53Speaker 8: clash between America and Israel over this.
- 25:00Speaker 1: The deal also says nothing about Iran's missiles, even though
- 25:03Speaker 1: that was a huge target in this operation destroy the
- 25:07Speaker 1: missile facilities, and doesn't even commit Iran to give up
- 25:10Speaker 1: the uranium and it rich for nuclear weapons. It just says, oh,
- 25:14Speaker 1: the US and Iran, they're going to talk about the uranium,
- 25:16Speaker 1: which might just be made less enriched bay Iran in Iran,
- 25:22Speaker 1: and it says what Iran does, so it reaffirms, reaffirms
- 25:26Speaker 1: this old promise that it shall not procure or develop
- 25:30Speaker 1: nuclear weapons. Michael, stopping around from getting nuclear weapons was
- 25:33Speaker 1: the biggest war aim here. But in this deal, Iran
- 25:38Speaker 1: simply repeats an old promise it's made for years not
- 25:43Speaker 1: to develop nuclear bombs. I promise the US didn't believe then,
- 25:46Speaker 1: but claims as a victory now, So what was the war?
- 25:49Speaker 17: Four?
- 25:50Speaker 7: Yes, I agree.
- 25:51Speaker 8: So Iran has said since the nineteen seventies that it
- 25:56Speaker 8: isn't developing a nuclear weapon. The problem is their action
- 26:00Speaker 8: have shown that probab that just wasn't true. They were
- 26:03Speaker 8: well on the path. There's no other reason for them
- 26:06Speaker 8: to enrich uranium like they had, So them saying again
- 26:09Speaker 8: something they've said for fifty years is not really an achievement.
- 26:15Speaker 8: It is difficult to see what this war was about
- 26:18Speaker 8: because you're right, there's nothing about support to Iranian proxies
- 26:22Speaker 8: has Boller and Hamas. There's nothing about dismantling their missile
- 26:27Speaker 8: or drone capabilities to threaten the rest of the region.
- 26:30Speaker 8: And Trump is talking like even on nuclear stuff. Well,
- 26:35Speaker 8: you know other countries have peaceful nuclear programs. If the
- 26:38Speaker 8: Uranians tell me that, well that'll be okay too. So
- 26:42Speaker 8: the net result is the Gulf and the rest of
- 26:45Speaker 8: the world are going to pay three hundred billion dollars
- 26:48Speaker 8: to reconstruct Iran.
- 26:51Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a bit that really gets me in this steal.
- 26:55Speaker 1: So Iran is a menace that Israel and America try
- 27:01Speaker 1: to stop being in menace, the nuclear and the blistic missiles,
- 27:05Speaker 1: and now that it's over, Trump is promising that Gulf
- 27:10Speaker 1: allies Arab countries will stump up three hundred billion dollars
- 27:15Speaker 1: to help rebuild Iran. I mean, how do you explain that.
- 27:21Speaker 8: I remember, that's in addition to releasing about one hundred
- 27:25Speaker 8: billion US dollars of frozen Iranian funds that are held
- 27:30Speaker 8: because of sanctions on Iran, So that release of the
- 27:34Speaker 8: money held through sanctions is separate to this new three
- 27:39Speaker 8: hundred billion dollar fund. And America wants other countries like
- 27:43Speaker 8: Japan and South Korea and I think even South Africa
- 27:46Speaker 8: to kick in to that reconstruction and investment fund, but.
- 27:53Speaker 1: He won't put in a dime. I mean, the whole
- 27:56Speaker 1: thing is so bizarre. Schub Bridge, thank you so much
- 28:01Speaker 1: for your time, really appreciated after the break calling out
- 28:07Speaker 1: the lajors from the Labor Liars Club, and didn't Anthony
- 28:11Speaker 1: alban easy get cranky today. Look, I don't want to
- 28:19Speaker 1: sound like the Pauline Hanson Defense Club, but I do
- 28:22Speaker 1: want to call out the Labor Liars Club because I
- 28:26Speaker 1: am so sick of Labour's lies and labor's scares, like
- 28:31Speaker 1: at the last election, you'll remember Anthony Albaniezy falsely claiming
- 28:35Speaker 1: the Liberals had plans to cut Medicare, which was total rubbish.
- 28:38Speaker 1: Everyone knew that. And here we go again Labour's fake scare.
- 28:42Speaker 1: Now over this from Hanson yesterday, which explained another fake scared,
- 28:46Speaker 1: the gender pay gap.
- 28:49Speaker 2: If you're an airline pilot male, female, you get the
- 28:52Speaker 2: same pay. You're host your same pay, you do the work,
- 28:55Speaker 2: your same pay. The difference is that if women take
- 28:58Speaker 2: time off and they not paid their way just because
- 29:02Speaker 2: they're not working fair enough, why should business pay them
- 29:04Speaker 2: if they're not at work.
- 29:05Speaker 8: That's the difference.
- 29:06Speaker 2: That's why the pay gap is there.
- 29:10Speaker 1: Now. Incredibly, Rebecca White Albanesi's a system minster for women.
- 29:14Speaker 1: I mean, what a sexist job title that is. She
- 29:18Speaker 1: claimed that what you just heard was in fact a
- 29:22Speaker 1: threat to remove paid parental leave.
- 29:25Speaker 18: I think the two hundred and fifty thousand Australians who
- 29:28Speaker 18: rely on paid parental leave and be watching that and
- 29:31Speaker 18: should be worried. What we heard was a little regard
- 29:34Speaker 18: for the fact that a lot of people who are
- 29:36Speaker 18: taking time out of work to have a baby also
- 29:39Speaker 18: need to pay the bills. I heard there an attack
- 29:41Speaker 18: on working Australians who are taking time out to have
- 29:44Speaker 18: a baby.
- 29:48Speaker 1: Such bull Hans has said nothing of the kind. And
- 29:52Speaker 1: business doesn't actually pay basic paid parental leave. It doesn't.
- 29:57Speaker 1: The government does, and some businesses want then to top
- 30:02Speaker 1: it up. You know, it's entirely up to them. It's voluntary.
- 30:07Speaker 1: No role for government in that either. I mean, and
- 30:09Speaker 1: there's Rebecca White trying to full voters with that sweet
- 30:12Speaker 1: smile that so many labor women now put on, as
- 30:14Speaker 1: if butter wouldn't melt in their mouths. But tonight want
- 30:22Speaker 1: to do something unusual. I want to beg you to
- 30:26Speaker 1: donate to Get Up. That's right, Get Up the left
- 30:31Speaker 1: wing activist group which organize that yesterday to disrupt Pauling
- 30:35Speaker 1: Hanson's speech of the National Press Club by unfurling an
- 30:37Speaker 1: anti Hanson sign that's secretly prepositioned but at the club's knowledge. Now,
- 30:43Speaker 1: the reason I really want you to donate, well if
- 30:48Speaker 1: you are of the left that is, and you'll just
- 30:50Speaker 1: hate watching this show, is that whatever Get Up Now
- 30:55Speaker 1: touches turns to manure. It's like guaranteed stunt. For instance,
- 31:01Speaker 1: yesterday that just made people more likely to vote for
- 31:04Speaker 1: Hanson and has now got the Federal police on Get
- 31:08Speaker 1: Up's tail in the press club demanding recompense for criminal damage.
- 31:13Speaker 1: I mean, this is beautiful, but this adds to what
- 31:16Speaker 1: seems to me an unbroken, near unbroken and expensive record
- 31:21Speaker 1: of failure of our top activist group, you know, and
- 31:25Speaker 1: failures counted it Up, that's wasted several million dollars of
- 31:28Speaker 1: donations so far, which I think is marvelous. Get Up
- 31:32Speaker 1: spent one point four million dollars on a failed campaign
- 31:34Speaker 1: for Labour's Racist Voice Deparliament and it's spent around six
- 31:38Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars on a failed campaign. It's not one
- 31:41Speaker 1: nation winning the Pharaoh bye election. And in the twenty
- 31:44Speaker 1: nineteen election it's spent three and a half million dollars
- 31:46Speaker 1: to defeat seven coalition right wingers but succeeded with just
- 31:51Speaker 1: one one out of seven. What a studying record of failure.
- 31:56Speaker 1: So please please donate if you're of the left, because
- 31:59Speaker 1: that conservatives can take such comfort in knowing that your
- 32:04Speaker 1: money can do no damage at all to our cause.
- 32:08Speaker 1: Joining me are Skarne, news host jameson First and communications
- 32:11Speaker 1: consultant Chris I. McSweeney has work for Coalision, prime ministers
- 32:14Speaker 1: and premiers. I mean, Christy, you will have had many
- 32:19Speaker 1: battles in the past or advance on battles in the
- 32:21Speaker 1: past with get Up. Would you too like more leftists
- 32:25Speaker 1: to donate to this failing organization under such awful leadership?
- 32:31Speaker 4: Well, Andrew, I'm a conservative female in Australia who run
- 32:35Speaker 4: for federal Parliament, so yes, I have had my battles
- 32:39Speaker 4: in the past with many activist groups and amazingly there
- 32:43Speaker 4: are people who consider me a monerate not an arch conservative.
- 32:47Speaker 4: But not according to many of these activist groups, I'm
- 32:52Speaker 4: this stunt by get Up. This has demonstrated that they
- 32:57Speaker 4: are immature, juvenile leftist activists instead of a legitimate organization,
- 33:05Speaker 4: and a lot of people gave them legitimacy as being
- 33:09Speaker 4: a well organized, well executed campaign success of the left
- 33:15Speaker 4: and working with the protagonist and I'm not going to
- 33:18Speaker 4: say his name, the protagonist who we all know, who
- 33:22Speaker 4: has been involved in many issues involving the AFP in
- 33:26Speaker 4: Camberra previously being outed. Is having him on board and
- 33:31Speaker 4: being an architect of this, it does nothing for their legitimacy.
- 33:34Speaker 4: It actually demonstrates that they've probably gone backwards in the
- 33:39Speaker 4: eyes of people who gave them coverage and gave them
- 33:42Speaker 4: legitimacy and thought that they were a legitimate, you know,
- 33:45Speaker 4: organization promoting left views in Australia.
- 33:52Speaker 1: James, would you appeal to left us to donate to
- 33:55Speaker 1: get Up, knowing that money will be taken out of
- 33:57Speaker 1: political circulation to do absolutely make fools of the left?
- 34:03Speaker 7: I absolutely would.
- 34:04Speaker 5: But just before I get to that, I've got to
- 34:06Speaker 5: give credit to get Up, because I thought it was
- 34:09Speaker 5: a genius move that they chose this period when the
- 34:12Speaker 5: World Cup is being played to demonstrate perfectly what an own.
- 34:15Speaker 7: Goal looks like.
- 34:16Speaker 5: So you know, cutos to them for that. But Andrew,
- 34:21Speaker 5: what you've articulated so brilliantly is that the more money
- 34:25Speaker 5: that is given to left wing activist group Get Up,
- 34:28Speaker 5: the stronger the campaign for One Nation becomes. So what
- 34:32Speaker 5: that means now is if you want to work out
- 34:34Speaker 5: how much money one nation have in their war chest,
- 34:38Speaker 5: you don't just take what's in One Nation's account. You've
- 34:41Speaker 5: got to take what Get Up have got. Add the
- 34:43Speaker 5: two together and that's the One Nation campaign fund. So yes,
- 34:47Speaker 5: the more money give it to get Up, my left
- 34:49Speaker 5: is the better One Nation become. But let's go a
- 34:51Speaker 5: step further. David Schiraz, of course the person that Christy
- 34:55Speaker 5: did not want to mention he came on board.
- 34:58Speaker 4: I don't want to give them interest, not to him,
- 35:01Speaker 4: James Christie.
- 35:02Speaker 5: I want to promote him because since he came on
- 35:04Speaker 5: board in February, he oversaw the debarking thorough. If Farah
- 35:08Speaker 5: was so bad, he thought, I will personally oversee the
- 35:11Speaker 5: stunt at the press Club. I think we need to
- 35:15Speaker 5: we need to advocate for him to be promoted to
- 35:17Speaker 5: lead Labour's campaign at the next election, and I think
- 35:22Speaker 5: we should definitely purport for that to happen.
- 35:27Speaker 1: Well, I just also thought, you know, get up hiring
- 35:30Speaker 1: David Cherraz when he declared bankruptcy for having said untrue
- 35:35Speaker 1: things about a former Liberal minister falsely accused of covering
- 35:39Speaker 1: up his wife's rape. I think that was a bold move.
- 35:46Speaker 1: But anyway, on the other hand, you've got now one
- 35:50Speaker 1: nation itself, Christie, that four million dollars that it raised
- 35:55Speaker 1: this month with its fire the Larre campaign that would
- 35:59Speaker 1: have ruined Anthony Albaneze's fun. Last night when he watched
- 36:03Speaker 1: the State of Origin game, he said he'd watch it
- 36:05Speaker 1: only to see the ad. Those donations paid for this ad.
- 36:11Speaker 9: Always been a man of my word, or we have
- 36:13Speaker 9: no plans to change negative gearing, or we've changed our position.
- 36:17Speaker 8: I stepped back one step. I didn't fall off the stage.
- 36:20Speaker 9: See reception was incredibly positive and not a single person
- 36:25Speaker 9: Heckle reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars.
- 36:29Speaker 15: That's a throughout life.
- 36:30Speaker 7: My word is my bond.
- 36:39Speaker 1: Now that must have hurt because the premise today was
- 36:41Speaker 1: especially cranky and asked if his lies had helped one
- 36:45Speaker 1: nation and even tried to blame the media for his
- 36:48Speaker 1: reputation level.
- 36:49Speaker 9: Look, if you look at polling, the free advertising on
- 36:54Speaker 9: the front page of various newspapers assists as well the
- 36:58Speaker 9: rise of of the issues which are there. But I'll
- 37:06Speaker 9: continue to engage. I haven't said that, so don't try
- 37:13Speaker 9: to misinterpret. I haven't said that at all. What I'm
- 37:17Speaker 9: concerned about isn't what happens on a twenty four hour
- 37:21Speaker 9: media cycle, let alone on the cycle we're in, which
- 37:26Speaker 9: is often minute by minute or hour by hour.
- 37:31Speaker 1: Dear Christy, if you were a labor advisor, would you
- 37:35Speaker 1: be telling labor guys Albany's his words now so worthless
- 37:41Speaker 1: he can't campaign in the next selection.
- 37:45Speaker 4: It's really interesting is that he wanted to get up
- 37:48Speaker 4: there today and talk about intergenerational equity and housing by
- 37:54Speaker 4: walking back and backing down. Actually it was a big
- 37:58Speaker 4: backdown on the cg TEA changes. Today Labor has decided
- 38:03Speaker 4: we did the wrong thing. We didn't listen to people.
- 38:06Speaker 4: We've copped more heat than we thought we're ever going to.
- 38:09Speaker 4: We've had to get out of our bubble and this
- 38:12Speaker 4: has become too difficult for us and it's dragging on
- 38:15Speaker 4: and on and on, and we want to talk about
- 38:17Speaker 4: housing and we can't tell our sell our housing message
- 38:21Speaker 4: unless we neutralize the CGT issue. So he wanted to
- 38:26Speaker 4: get back on track and along comes Pauline Hanson with fire,
- 38:30Speaker 4: the liar at the State of Origin. Compound it with
- 38:35Speaker 4: the coalition social media campaign and they've got their act
- 38:39Speaker 4: together and are putting out ads, rehashing Anthony Albanisi and
- 38:46Speaker 4: the entire front bench of Labour's words, calling Scott Morrison
- 38:50Speaker 4: a liar. I saw one today saying, using the Prime
- 38:54Speaker 4: Minister's own footage where he said about Scott Morrison, you
- 38:58Speaker 4: can only lie to this show in public once well,
- 39:02Speaker 4: two hundred and seventy five dollars that we didn't see
- 39:04Speaker 4: in power bill reductions. And we're not doing anything about
- 39:08Speaker 4: negative gearing and capital gains or an inheritance tax. That's
- 39:11Speaker 4: quite a few, not just once that we've all got
- 39:14Speaker 4: there on the public record now, So the Liberals, congratulations,
- 39:18Speaker 4: they've got their rat together. But of course fither liar
- 39:21Speaker 4: of the State of Origin that would have absolutely hurt double.
- 39:26Speaker 1: I've read that the audience, yes, and I read that
- 39:30Speaker 1: the audience was a record something between depends when they
- 39:34Speaker 1: ad ran something between four and six million viewers. My god, James,
- 39:39Speaker 1: what did you think of all that?
- 39:40Speaker 5: Well, Andrew, I was going to say to you. You know,
- 39:42Speaker 5: we've chatted many times, and as I understand your position,
- 39:45Speaker 5: you're trying to work out is there a god or
- 39:47Speaker 5: is there not? But I want you to consider this, Andrew.
- 39:50Speaker 5: One nation decided to spend their money on an advertisement
- 39:54Speaker 5: during State of Origin two, which just happened to be
- 39:57Speaker 5: the highest rating State of Origin game in history. There's
- 40:00Speaker 5: certainly a god, Andrew. You've got to be a believer.
- 40:02Speaker 1: Now, and he plays rugby leek who would have thought.
- 40:10Speaker 14: And I'm thinking that also today of Angus Taylor Christie
- 40:18Speaker 14: making that comment about handsome judging people over the color
- 40:22Speaker 14: of this skin, was that smart.
- 40:25Speaker 4: I think he could have put it better, and I
- 40:28Speaker 4: think he could have used more articulate, nuanced language. I
- 40:33Speaker 4: think he is in a really difficult position between her
- 40:38Speaker 4: locking in her base and let's face it, her speech
- 40:41Speaker 4: at the Press club was about the base. It was
- 40:44Speaker 4: a defiance. It was going to the home of the
- 40:48Speaker 4: elitist political chattering classes and giving them a serve. Now
- 40:56Speaker 4: she can do that, that plays really well to her bus.
- 41:00Speaker 4: Angus Taylor needs to be more nuanced about his language, and.
- 41:04Speaker 15: We can see took the government I think so and the.
- 41:06Speaker 4: Coalition walking a really fine line because they are aware
- 41:11Speaker 4: that one is not.
- 41:12Speaker 1: Today from the look, You're absolutely correct. I saw the
- 41:17Speaker 1: Prime Minister yesterday tried to avoid even using her name
- 41:19Speaker 1: for a while, but Angus Taylor bad call. Jameson Verson,
- 41:23Speaker 1: Christmas Sweeny, thank you very much to you both. After
- 41:26Speaker 1: the break, the British couple who went sailing in their
- 41:29Speaker 1: English Channel lovely Little Sale and got monstered by a
- 41:33Speaker 1: Russian warship, we mentioned David Shiraz I said you've gone
- 41:42Speaker 1: broke making after being order to pay conversation force claims
- 41:46Speaker 1: he made about Linda Reynolds of the former Liberal Defense minister,
- 41:51Speaker 1: that you'd try to cover up the rape of Britney Higgins,
- 41:54Speaker 1: Charazz's wife. You might recall that you and I we
- 41:58Speaker 1: paid two point four million dollars thanks to the Albanesi governor,
- 42:03Speaker 1: to Britney Higgins for her terrible ordeal having been raped,
- 42:07Speaker 1: and then you know the Liberals acting like monsters, which
- 42:10Speaker 1: wasn't true. The trustee now cannot find one million of
- 42:15Speaker 1: those dollars. Higgins has claimed bankruptcy too, and that means
- 42:20Speaker 1: she can't pay all the damages she owes to Linda
- 42:23Speaker 1: Reunds for her falsehoods. Where did that one million dollars go?
- 42:28Speaker 1: Britney where David? Now, it's not just in Australia, of course,
- 42:33Speaker 1: and so much of the West. You see people by
- 42:35Speaker 1: the way that story was in the Australian, I should
- 42:37Speaker 1: have credited that. Have a look in the Australian website
- 42:40Speaker 1: right now, No, in ten minutes, and there's so much
- 42:45Speaker 1: of the West, not just here. You now see people
- 42:47Speaker 1: asking themselves who stole our country? In Britain. And this
- 42:52Speaker 1: is just when the English team is flying the you know,
- 42:54Speaker 1: the flag of the World Cup. The Counter Council of
- 42:58Speaker 1: Oxfordshire is applied to the High Court for ben and
- 43:00Speaker 1: flying the English flag on lamp posts or along the
- 43:04Speaker 1: streets or wherever, and not just because it's a supposed
- 43:08Speaker 1: traffic hazard. You've got the council chief saying the flag
- 43:12Speaker 1: flying was unlawful behavior which has caused fear and division
- 43:17Speaker 1: within our communities. Joining from London is talked to V
- 43:20Speaker 1: host Samara Gill Samara, this is an amazing story. Why
- 43:24Speaker 1: is flying the English flag in England a cause of
- 43:28Speaker 1: fear and division?
- 43:30Speaker 19: It's such a great question because I'm still a bit
- 43:34Speaker 19: baffled as to why it's even a thing over here.
- 43:36Speaker 19: But there is so much entrenched and deep hatred for
- 43:40Speaker 19: the Union jack and the English flag. You know, many
- 43:43Speaker 19: people thinking that the far right has appropriated it. Well,
- 43:47Speaker 19: I don't think that's true. You know, a flag is
- 43:50Speaker 19: something that should unify everyone, and if it has been
- 43:53Speaker 19: appropriated by a certain group, then it should be reclaimed
- 43:56Speaker 19: and brought back. And I think it's insane because a
- 44:00Speaker 19: lot of people are blaming you know, the immigrants in
- 44:02Speaker 19: this country for why we can't fly the flag. But
- 44:05Speaker 19: I don't even think that's the problem here. I think
- 44:07Speaker 19: a lot of immigrants do actually come over to Britain,
- 44:10Speaker 19: a lot of first generation ones and want to be
- 44:13Speaker 19: under the banner of the Union jack or the English flag.
- 44:17Speaker 19: But it's these sort of middle class pen pusher types
- 44:20Speaker 19: that are trying to legislate in these councils what you
- 44:24Speaker 19: can and can't fly. All while you can fly the
- 44:26Speaker 19: LGBTQ flag, you can fly the Ukrainian flag, you can
- 44:30Speaker 19: pretty much fly any other flag, but the one that
- 44:33Speaker 19: the country or the very ground that you're standing on is.
- 44:39Speaker 1: Yeah. Look when I was last in London and they're
- 44:42Speaker 1: one of those big shopping streets from one into the other,
- 44:45Speaker 1: it was all LGBTQ and plus and plus and plus
- 44:48Speaker 1: flags from one into the other. And I must say
- 44:51Speaker 1: a couple of flags in this strain and our commission
- 44:53Speaker 1: as well. I mean, what is going on there? But honestly,
- 44:56Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, do you know if
- 44:58Speaker 1: any other country we're local or I already say the
- 45:00Speaker 1: flag is a cause of fear and division. I thought,
- 45:02Speaker 1: wait a minute, Australia. Australia is well, apart from Australia
- 45:07Speaker 1: and apart from Britain, what are the countries would they be?
- 45:10Speaker 1: I just think this is quite unique.
- 45:13Speaker 16: You know.
- 45:14Speaker 19: I looked into this and it's countries that are sort
- 45:16Speaker 19: of deep in civil war, Soudan, places that are very treacherous.
- 45:21Speaker 19: And it's a good point you make, Andrew, because a
- 45:24Speaker 19: country like Britain, although when you see reports you probably
- 45:27Speaker 19: think it's in peril and the streets are burning down.
- 45:30Speaker 19: You know, we are a stable economy in the first World.
- 45:34Speaker 19: We pretty much got no glaring, glaring issues, and yet
- 45:38Speaker 19: we do hate ourselves and we hate our country and
- 45:41Speaker 19: our flag, and that's a big, big problem. We shouldn't
- 45:44Speaker 19: be having these issues as a developed nation. Yet we
- 45:49Speaker 19: do fall into the category of nations that have massive
- 45:53Speaker 19: problems and a lot to answer for and have very dark,
- 45:56Speaker 19: murky things going on, like genocides and civil wars. You know,
- 46:00Speaker 19: I'm talking about at Sudan and some of a weaker population,
- 46:03Speaker 19: and there are issues around their flags.
- 46:06Speaker 15: But no, we do want to cannibalize ourselves on this state.
- 46:13Speaker 1: Don't think I haven't noticed you referring often to we
- 46:17Speaker 1: and our country, et ceteras. Samara I'll come to that later,
- 46:20Speaker 1: but it does sound like Australia has lost you. Russia
- 46:26Speaker 1: such a menace. I mean, on Monday in Poland yet
- 46:30Speaker 1: a Russian artist who fled there from Russia for safety
- 46:34Speaker 1: after mocking Vladimir Putin. He was shot dead. And what's
- 46:37Speaker 1: believed to be an assassination now that a British couple
- 46:41Speaker 1: on a yacht. They had a Russian naval frigate in
- 46:45Speaker 1: the English Channel near the Isle of Wight fire warning shots.
- 46:50Speaker 1: When they got to about half a kilometer of it,
- 46:53Speaker 1: here is one of them.
- 46:55Speaker 17: They gave that five blasts on their horn, which means
- 46:58Speaker 17: have you seen us? We immediately turned two degrees to
- 47:03Speaker 17: port so that they could see We'd made a deliberate
- 47:06Speaker 17: change of course, which meant we had seen them. And
- 47:09Speaker 17: then a minute or so later they gave another five
- 47:12Speaker 17: blasts on their horn, immediately followed by four to five
- 47:17Speaker 17: small arms fire.
- 47:21Speaker 1: It's extraordinary, Samara. What's been Russia's excuse and your British
- 47:26Speaker 1: government's reaction.
- 47:29Speaker 15: Yes, my British government, Andrew.
- 47:32Speaker 19: I feel really bad for mister and missus Calby, who
- 47:34Speaker 19: are probably going for a Tina Bicky out on their
- 47:37Speaker 19: on the nice little boat and then started to come
- 47:40Speaker 19: under fire from the Russian navy so to speak. I mean,
- 47:45Speaker 19: so you couldn't make this up. And it's hilarious because
- 47:48Speaker 19: obviously Russia said that they tried to contact the yacht
- 47:51Speaker 19: by radio, they fired signal flares, and they believed that
- 47:55Speaker 19: this very domineering British vessel, was filled with two pensioners.
- 48:01Speaker 15: Was on a dangerous course to watch the worship.
- 48:03Speaker 19: I mean, that's basically what happened. But I mean, Joones aside,
- 48:07Speaker 19: you've got open fire in the English channel and Keir
- 48:11Speaker 19: Starmer's response to this was that it was reckless. Russia's
- 48:15Speaker 19: actions were reckless. I mean, it's a very very week's
- 48:19Speaker 19: response from our prime minister who basically said nothing more
- 48:23Speaker 19: than that, and I think that's because he's clinging on
- 48:25Speaker 19: for dear life through his prime ministership and he doesn't
- 48:28Speaker 19: really care about what's going on beyond Westminster.
- 48:30Speaker 15: I think this is one of the last few weeks
- 48:32Speaker 15: we'll see him.
- 48:33Speaker 1: Andrew Well, all I can say is that's your Prime Minister, Samara,
- 48:39Speaker 1: but we'll talk about more about that later. Samara, Gil
- 48:43Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time. That's it from
- 48:46Speaker 1: me up next to this sherry, hosted by Caron Marcus,
- 48:50Speaker 1: good Night