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Club 520 - Evan Turner on guarding Derrick Rose, playing with Isaiah Thomas, Jayson Tatum’s Paris Olympics · Club 520 Podcast

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  Speaker 1: The volume. All right, we're back man, another episode of
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  Speaker 1: Club five to twenty Podcasts. This ain't even a guest.
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  Speaker 1: We gotta film me in the building. Man, we've been
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  Speaker 1: waiting for this episode for a minute. Man introduced my
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  Speaker 1: man's last. To my far left, my dog Bi should
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  Speaker 1: be hearing out the pre least how you would nasty cool.
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  Speaker 2: And Phoenix Baby, let's get to it for show.
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  Speaker 3: To my right, my dog young not Cho, young tig.
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  Speaker 3: How you what I'm chilling?
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  Speaker 2: Bro?
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  Speaker 1: You already know I'm right right here. It's my dog
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  Speaker 1: the door. I ain't gonna hold you, j R. I
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  Speaker 1: got the special you know special pack from j My
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  Speaker 1: boy Dang hooked us up.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 3: We in formula zero.
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  Speaker 2: We all here. You love it.
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  Speaker 3: Is Man till my left.
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  Speaker 1: Man, we got a big ten legend on Higo State legend,
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  Speaker 1: longtime NBA vet and the man of the Point for
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  Speaker 1: a podcast. We got at Evan Turner in the building.
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  Speaker 1: Big dog appreciate you sliding on his brother.
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  Speaker 2: And appreciate y'all. Man, y'all invited me. Like I said,
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  Speaker 2: I was touched, but it took so long to pull
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  Speaker 2: up because I didn't want to give you y'all stink
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  Speaker 2: er interview.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on, Bro, that's so long to come up.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, Man, I don't know if I can
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  Speaker 2: really they pause be popping.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I dull it down or not.
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  Speaker 1: We follow you on Twitter, Elite Twitter. It's my best word, that's.
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  Speaker 2: My best work. Sometimes I'd be like, Bro, are people
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  Speaker 2: watching when I'm posting? Because I'm going crazy? And what
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  Speaker 2: you're saying a circuit if you think about it, Bro,
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  Speaker 2: that beat it. Next wave of back niggas want to
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  Speaker 2: be no more. We would have lost the serviet. It
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  Speaker 2: would have been over. And I'm like, Bro, they could
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  Speaker 2: be some nigga's name Lebron like Nia just being some
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  Speaker 2: nigga name. Lebron is over for us, y'all because I'm
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  Speaker 2: being dead. Seriously, let's start off with the.
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  Speaker 3: Order of my dog.
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  Speaker 1: This story goes way back for me because I remember
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  Speaker 1: meeting Et when I was like sophomore in high school.
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  Speaker 1: Freshman in high school. He played for the Illinois Wolves.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: They had nice jersey uniform, team was all put together
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  Speaker 1: and here I come with these nappy braids, reversible jerseys,
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  Speaker 1: our own shorts, and were playing against Evan and Dimitri
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  Speaker 1: and they used to beat our assy.
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  Speaker 2: We used to practice, they had plays.
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  Speaker 1: We should just come to the tournament now, But I
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  Speaker 1: knew et since back then. Man, it's dope to see
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  Speaker 1: where you came from there to now. It's crazy as hell.
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  Speaker 3: See.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because you know, even back in that tournament, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, back in the day, like if you like
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  Speaker 2: an unsigned senior, you could play AAU. So we were
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  Speaker 2: playing seventeen or under, but we were sixteen, and I
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  Speaker 2: remember like just seeing the jerseys, not really knowing like
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  Speaker 2: who he was. But I'm like, oh, he he picking
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  Speaker 2: our pockets like Buddy Dunk and Ship Buddy, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean, like just giving us pure hells on
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  Speaker 2: my head. I'm like, he got to be an unsigned senior.
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  Speaker 2: So while we're playing Ship, I'm kind of like, hey, bro,
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  Speaker 2: like we can play over here, Ship, Like we got
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  Speaker 2: jersey like everything like Bush.
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  Speaker 1: He said that the middle of the game, Bro, like
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  Speaker 1: you can play with us, Bro, we got jerseys.
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  Speaker 3: I said, that's wrong with this.
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  Speaker 2: You want to go to rebound to rebod cam like everything.
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  Speaker 1: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. So once that game's over, we're like, Bro,
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  Speaker 2: Buddy's so cold. So we talked to our AU coach.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, where is he supposed to go? This' like, bro,
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  Speaker 2: that kid is your age? Like that kid is my age.
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  Speaker 2: So like when we're sitting I'm like, bro, that's no
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  Speaker 2: cat Gee. We all said you was better than d
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  Speaker 2: Rose at the time.
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  Speaker 4: Niggas was true, don't That's how good she was playing
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  Speaker 4: it right, So we might in some moments, but.
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  Speaker 2: No that hey, we must have been living to you
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  Speaker 2: because he was killing us. And I just remember sitting
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  Speaker 2: there and always just remembering, uh, find out you are
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  Speaker 2: my age and just being like, man, it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: a tough climb up if I got the battlever time.
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  Speaker 2: And we go to AU. We go to a b
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  Speaker 2: C D camp and like our whole team was just
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  Speaker 2: like every tournament you were in. We were just paying
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  Speaker 2: attention to you and be like what the tea kid do?
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  Speaker 2: What the t kid do? I remember my a you
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  Speaker 2: turn coach telling Skip Prosser like you might want the Meitri.
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  Speaker 2: This is the one Noyea. I remember, like literally like
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  Speaker 2: the Metri is the coldest dude ever seen. And we're
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  Speaker 2: like like chost Cap, like that dude over there that
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  Speaker 2: only like to play every other game. It's the truth.
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  Speaker 2: He was just showing up like like a B C
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  Speaker 2: D camp and not look interesting, like you know, we
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  Speaker 2: try and change our lives, right.
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  Speaker 1: But you know it's just my look, bro, how I
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  Speaker 1: really feel? I just looked like that home was killing.
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  Speaker 4: That's saying with an your age, ask you over there, SI.
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  Speaker 2: You know I went to the tournament. We're still unsigned,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm expecting every tournament to look like some ship
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  Speaker 2: on TV. Like, so I want to go change my life.
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  Speaker 2: So when I'm showing up, they got reversible jerseys. This
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  Speaker 2: ain't this ain't it?
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  Speaker 1: Bro?
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  Speaker 3: I can't get jiggy.
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  Speaker 2: With him, like Mike. I'm like, man, and I might
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  Speaker 2: do with the four X.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: J Williams never gonna crazy and yeh and that was
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  Speaker 2: nearly Jeff T and no funny ship. I had been
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  Speaker 2: a fan ever since then. You're like sixteen years old.
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  Speaker 2: That was in Louisville, Kentucky. Was you already that guy
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  Speaker 2: around that time too? Though?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah he was Yeah, he was were talking, bro, he was.
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  Speaker 1: I was mean, he can handle the ball, so we like,
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  Speaker 1: damn this nigga six seven would handle like he always
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  Speaker 1: had that right to left that left to right.
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  Speaker 2: That mug was mean.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we like, I'm like, damn he tall ship dripping
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  Speaker 1: the ball the point because when he was coming in
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  Speaker 1: the game, we thought he was gonna be like the
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  Speaker 1: power forward and he handling the rock and the little
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  Speaker 1: white dudes was just run around shooting threes, and him
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  Speaker 1: and Dimitri got the ball. We like, we ain't got
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  Speaker 1: nobody to guard, so he used to kill us. And
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  Speaker 1: I'll nerve forget like the Metri cold and you know,
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  Speaker 1: feel like, nah heat the cold when lookout tall he is.
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  Speaker 1: And that's how we became fans. And we was like, damn,
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  Speaker 1: I just kept up with him. And when I see
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  Speaker 1: him go to Old State, I'm like them we going
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  Speaker 1: there with because we thought Michael was staying. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: damn me going there with Mike and them. That's crazy,
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  Speaker 1: But I'll let you keep going DJ.
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  Speaker 2: And that was That's pretty much it. Bro. I just
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  Speaker 2: remember going back to those days and like how loaded
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  Speaker 2: paul As that class was even then. What I'm saying, like,
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  Speaker 2: we thought she was better than Dee Rose, but they
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  Speaker 2: had like Chris Wright, they had you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Jay Lucas's so they had damn and everybody. It was
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  Speaker 2: tough to make All American games and oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: j was trapped. But growing up in Indianapolis around that time,
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  Speaker 2: it was probably pire hell.
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  Speaker 1: Ship probably signed for you in Chicago, like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the Rose is prown. Yeah what's that like? Though, Like
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  Speaker 1: in high school, competing against d Rose.
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  Speaker 2: It was you gotta think he was he was d
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  Speaker 2: Rose back then. So I remember the first time I
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  Speaker 2: ever really seen him. Uh, we had like an eighth
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  Speaker 2: grade All star game and it's like West Suburbs vers
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  Speaker 2: West Side, South Suburbs for South Side and I think
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  Speaker 2: like Northwest down State. So I was playing on the
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  Speaker 2: West Side team, so I was playing in a different games.
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  Speaker 2: But I remember being in the back and I see
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  Speaker 2: like a trophy and it's like player of the Year
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  Speaker 2: Derek Rose. I'm like, well, who the player of the
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  Speaker 2: year Derek Rose? Who the hell is Dereck Rose? Type stuff?
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  Speaker 2: Like why would he get a whole trophy? And I'm
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  Speaker 2: here type ship, That's what I like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Then like before you know it, Buddy just pulled up
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  Speaker 2: and dunking everything. He goes to Semeon. He wasn't allowed
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  Speaker 2: to play his freshman year, but then once a sophomore
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  Speaker 2: year hit. He was he was God and everybody else
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  Speaker 2: is just them, like you know what I mean. So
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  Speaker 2: I was a distant second when we grew up playing.
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  Speaker 2: But to grow up and play in the city of Chicago,
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  Speaker 2: it's just crazy across Pat bed too. Yeah, Pat Bad.
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  Speaker 2: People don't man Pat Bad to me. You can say
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  Speaker 2: d Rose is out there g but Pat Bad was
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: throwing up forty yeah, publicly taking out everybody. So I
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  Speaker 2: thought it was pretty dope. We had like a lot
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  Speaker 2: of dope talent during that time. And when you see
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  Speaker 2: what they're doing now. You look at John Shire during
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  Speaker 2: that time, he was by far head over heels better
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  Speaker 2: than everybody until d Rose took him out. He's shipped
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  Speaker 2: the coach a duke. Yeah. Collins left period Kan and
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  Speaker 2: then this player at Kansas. You look at Jake Pulling.
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: People forget Jake pulling all the time and scored from there.
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  Speaker 4: It was that high school my fault that he went to.
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  Speaker 4: Jake Pulling went to provide who was that big man
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  Speaker 4: from there, Brian Carwell, We went to Saint Joe. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: that was my bad. I just had a moment, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because he came to Indiana and yeah, bro, and then
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  Speaker 2: that turned to Greg Golden and Mike Conley and that
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: was like a big deal. So, you know, around that time,
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: growing up in Chicago, I think like there's like twenty
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  Speaker 2: players in the top twenty from the state that went
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  Speaker 2: D one, so you know what I mean. So I
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: was playing versus a bunch of kids in the Big
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  Speaker 2: ten and I grew up playing Verse since I was
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  Speaker 2: ten years old.
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  Speaker 3: That's a show.
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  Speaker 1: And it was so crazy in the city, especially in
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  Speaker 1: that time period at oh five or six oh seven. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because you go from Josh McRoberts to Mike and Greg
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  Speaker 1: and then yeah, we had a.
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: Brough And I remember talking to Brad Stevens. He was
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: just saying, like I would go recruit like from Butler,
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: not trying to go get them, but I would wait
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: to go see a guy play Verse something and be like,
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: if they do decent, I know they're pretty good, because
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  Speaker 2: these dudes are going to be NBA Hall of Famers,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: What was it like you had the battle? What was
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  Speaker 2: it like coming up in that time? Did that kind
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  Speaker 2: of kill your confiden and that you weren't Mike Nah?
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  Speaker 2: You know, because like you was cold.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, Noah, because like Mike Mike, Dad's the reason our
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  Speaker 1: game confidence because I used to have good games against Mike,
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  Speaker 1: but I was like a hood hooper like.
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  Speaker 3: And shit like that.
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  Speaker 1: So like when I played again, so I just wanted
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  Speaker 1: to crossing because I knew everybody's gonna talk about it
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  Speaker 1: like I'm just gonna crossing. But then I started getting
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  Speaker 1: competitive and I was scoring stuff. But I ain't never
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: look at it like that. They were just Gregg and
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  Speaker 1: Mike to me, Like I didn't really know they was
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: like a big, big deal until I went to Vegas
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  Speaker 1: and I've seen how people was treating them.
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, dya shit, like you know be here, were.
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: Like oh that's great. Oh they can't go outside. Though
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: I can go outside like I'm in with my friendly
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: at the parties in the streets. They can't do that.
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: So it didn't look fun to me to beat them.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: But then when I seen kind of love they was
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: getting everywhere else, like they got rebock deals, and I'm like,
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, they getting the real love. I'm getting the
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: booties is getting tirked on at the club. They get
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: the real stuff, So it wouldn't ain't mean nothing until
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: I got to there and I'm like, I gotta figure
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  Speaker 1: it out. Then Coach Conley kind of put a battery
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  Speaker 1: in my back, like you just as good as them, man,
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  Speaker 1: it's his son, you Like, damn you think I'm good
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  Speaker 1: as hell?
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  Speaker 2: Mere?
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  Speaker 3: Like yeah, you should have all these offers too.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, shit, he gassed me, and he gassed
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  Speaker 1: me to a whole nother level to be honest.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's hard, bro, Yeah, that's definitely hard.
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  Speaker 3: Shout to coach Connley.
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  Speaker 1: Man for sure, Like you said, man going crazy in Chicago.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: How'd you end up at Ohio State?
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: Sid? Uh? My dad's from Ohio. So every summer else
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: like nine to ten, I would go visit him in Columbus.
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  Speaker 2: So I would go to like Ohio State sports camps
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: and I go to like Clark Kellar camp and he
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: was like a big deal at the time. Yeah, so
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: in the summertime, I kind of when I first went there,
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: like I kind of knew, like how big of a deal,
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: Like people like mess with the buck eye. So you
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: fast forward like senior, like six years later, We're playing
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: at the King James Tournament and I'm playing versus some
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: white pigeon toe dude, and he's like the state. He
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: just scored seventy seven points. His name is John Diebler.
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  Speaker 2: So we're playing versus each other and I'm looking at stands.
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: There's a bunch of like scouts and coaches there, so
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: apparently thad models there. So you know when you're young
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  Speaker 2: and they telling you like, hey, you're about to play
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  Speaker 2: for the best. Dude whatever he did, so you know,
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  Speaker 2: you go out. You're like this white dude like, man,
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: I'm finna put on for the hood. So buddy, come out.
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  Speaker 2: He get me like five straight threes and then like
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: you know, like they had a burner. Yeah, burner like volleyball.
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  Speaker 2: I had never seen somebody just like dribbling down the
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: court and like pull out. He wasn't looking at the line,
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: he was just pulling out of nowhere. Now. I was like, bro,
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: this dude is different, and luckily I played well. That
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: was like a Saturday. By that Thursday, I was on
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: Ohio State campus and should I got offered. I went
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: to NBA camp in June. I was like, bro, I
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: gotta go somewhere. That's it was a dumb ass decision
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: that should have just went to Wisconsin or Illinois. But
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, day Kwon Cook, Mike Conley, all of
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  Speaker 2: them at All State. I got to get ready and
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: go there. But it was just like the boys pauses loaded.
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  Speaker 2: But at the same time, like you think about my trajectory,
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: If like day Kwan Cook would have never left that
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: first year, I might have been sitting for a year
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: and a half two years. But I just thought when
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: I was a kid that the thought of competition and
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: being from Chicago, I thought like a top recruiting class
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: or somewhere big I would be able to perform at
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: and that should just worked out for sure. Incoming class though,
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  Speaker 2: yeah worked out.
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  Speaker 3: They definitely worked out.
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  Speaker 2: I was nice. What was the thirty three's name I had?
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  Speaker 2: I forgot his name, It was John Die twenty three
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: is David, Yeah had Will Beuford. Yeah. Will ended up
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: like the second time all leading scored dealer ing up
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: breaking the conference three point record, and Dave was like
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: the all time winner or whatever. I was cold and
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: was played year. Yeah, and uh you know we finished
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: eg sellinger is the best ever do it man. He
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: was so coold. I didn't play with him, but the
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  Speaker 2: next year he really killed it. But you know, during
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  Speaker 2: that time, I just felt like the Big ten was
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  Speaker 2: something I was really familiar with, and you know, just
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: going close to home was a big deal and that
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  Speaker 2: was really it. But when I look back on that,
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: acc Ball might have been more fun, bro, what was
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: definitely fun. I was trying to go to n C State,
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: to be honest with you, and then, uh, you actually
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: fit them, That's what I'm saying. I saw Julius Hodge. Yeah,
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: they had to do Brandon Kysler, Yeah, straight, but right
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: had committed and Syndackett eventually ended up dipping. But uh yeah,
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: and then I was either that or Waite Force, which
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: was you know coach Prosser and uh, what's the Italian coach? Yeah, Gottiyo.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: We were on there, but we pulled up the wait
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Forest and you know, our coach asked about like the
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: black population, and there's like I think the guys go
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: across the street to with some sale. We did, and
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: my coach was like, nah, bro, you ain't supposed to
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  Speaker 2: leave campus. Okay. It's like as a white man, I'm offended.
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  Speaker 3: I remember what. I remember what I said to wake Force.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: He said that he was like, there ain't no black
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: people on there, and he was like, y'all got said
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: at the front of the classroom. I was like, damn,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: I went to the wake Forest. We had legitimate at
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: the front of the classroom.
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  Speaker 2: Damn, bro he set it tightened up.
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  Speaker 3: I used to go to one same on State here
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  Speaker 3: the other day.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of black people.
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  Speaker 3: Stay with you.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: It's decent, MOMMI. You could count on everybody being from Cleveland,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. The state is from Cleveland,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: but there's some niggas in Cleveland. Yeah, but it's a
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: decent vibe. I think college is cool for what it was.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: I learned a lot and you know, but the real
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: gig was just trying to get to the league.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. I mean you get off the subject.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: But you know, I'm saying I l money shit going on,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: especially how you played in college, what you did.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you you might have said that year for the
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: little check you check.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: I probably would have flamed out way quicker because I
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: be able to handle, you know, everything that came at me,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: the craft, the crack, Johnny Manzil, all right, Marcus George,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: I would have died like girl saying he got a game.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: I can already read and write schools.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Not right, Oh, Ship, obviously you know what I'm saying.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You go on drift night.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: How was that process for you?
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Because you know what I'm saying, you number two pick,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: and that was it was a cool, you know process
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: when I hear everybody else's horror stories, you know, but
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I was blessed.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: It was cool. I did one workout and when the
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: balls dropped, Paul, we were we knew that I would
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: go to Philly because John Wall was legit. So John
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Wall was a consensus and I just knew, like when
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: number two dropted, oh I guess I'll be a Philadelphia
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: or whatever. So luckily that was the case, and we
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: went and did a workout, and you know, everything worked
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: well until the first game and then you know, life change.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: What happened.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: No, just like Ship was real, Like I was supposed
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: to come in and be brun right, perfect live. I
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: had to go talk to my sponsors. So when people
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: are like y'all got partners like I don't have, Like
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: I didn't have them by the second year. So what
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: did you think he was coming to? You was gonna
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: be the man on Philly because you know it's cold,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: you know what's wrong. You weren't saying clearly, but that
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: was iggy Enham team.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: You got drafted to a tough team.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Got honest with you. I'm just joking. I got drafted
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: to a really good team in a really good situation.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: And when I thought at Philly, I was like, no,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: I want to go to Golden State at number seven
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: because I wanted to play with Steph like Paul is
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: really really bad, and uh, I just knew the fit
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: and I knew Dre wasn't no slouch. But back in
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: the day, people forget we just started going into this
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: team ball like before it was like a couple of
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: years before that, like the Trailblazers didn't draft KD because
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I adn't think b Roy and KD like it had
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: to be one alpha guard, one alpha big type situation.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: So when it came down to it, like I really
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: just showed up and it was like there was ah,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: you know, it's Dre's team, and you kind of got
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: like really fit in getting where you fit in. So
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: that development of what you saw John wall Get. I'm
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: not saying I've been John Waller, even Wes C. Johnson.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: He was in Minnesota cracking and you know, getting getting
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: crazy opportunity. But it was it was a cool, you
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: know experience, and that was probably one of my favorite teams.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: Who grabbed like not grabbed you. That's crazy, but right
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: what what if it really took you on? Today Winnings
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: gave the game.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Right away. Yeah, right away, right away, Lou will shout
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: out to Lou. Yeah the uh, I think he just
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: took a liking into me because I just thought he
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: was like, bro, what's to this man? You know? But
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I remember like the first one of the first couple
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: of days, he picked me up and we went to
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: the gun range and then he just took me around
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: the city. And you know, that's the first real time
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I ever got drunk was with Lou Williams and damn Lou. Yeah,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: but but it was some real stuff. So I was
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: chopping it up. I was going through like some rough
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: rookie stuff and I'm talking about like I'm in the dumps. So, uh,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: we losing Philly, you know, Doug Collins is you know,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: he's definitely ah, you know, being tough on me in
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: a sense. We losing Philly, Landy Detroit so it's like, uh,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: meet me in a lobby in twenty minutes. It's not
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: an option. So I meet him in lobby. We go
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: next door at the bar and he's just like, you
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: got like eight shots lined up type of ship, and
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: he's like you should start and talk. He's like, look, bruh,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: this game of bout aastball source to be fun. It
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be up and down. Like if you bring this
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: ship home with you, you're gonna be mad every single
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: goddamn day. He's like, you ain't have fun since you've
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: been here. It's like, just let that shit go be
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: who you're gonna be. But like, you can't bring this
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: shit home with you, like you don't literally let your
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: head explode. And he's like that's it. Just go out there,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: try hoop if a nest from there, but like you
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: can really hoop. And I was like all right, bet,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: and he's like, okay, now make sure you finished the shot.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: So like so I had like so that, like I
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: took like two or three shots like off the bat.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: But I remember like Lou was somebody I could always
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: rely on or relate to because he had went through
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: everything as a player, Like when I was tripping practice
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: and be like, man, you got me, you got me
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: running your plays. I ain't run them in the game.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: He'd be like, motherfucker. Like when I was your age,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: they would take me out of practice and a coach
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: for practice. You understand what I'm saying. So like, so
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: when it came down to it, it's like I got
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: real game from him. Eldon Brand was super cool and
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: then obviously Iguodala. We had a butt hit to start,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: but eventually towards the end of my first year, we
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: became my brothers. Like by the fourth year, you know,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: we didn't even play on the same team. I was
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: the best man in his widding. And then you know
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: when he had his daughter, you know, he named her Evan,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: and it was like, I thought this so like when
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: we got to that level of like friendship and like connecting,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I just felt like we had like a relationship that's
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: just bigger than basketball. And that was what I really
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: took from those vets because even my ups and down times,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I could always count on them and depend on them,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: even if I felt like I didn't have a friend
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: all right, So after them shots of and j Yeah,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: ship shots though.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: It was honey, I was saying, Petron is Petronney, That's
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and that I had a shot of
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Cranberry and I was, so.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: When did you start getting comfortable in the league? Though?
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: What I think there's different levels of comfort, not even
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: so much playing, but so much is just like saying,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: forgetting accepting my role. You know. I think one thing
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: that occurred was I came in super early speak. When
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: you listen to your ages and stuff, you're trying to
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: carry a brand. So yeah, I could have been like
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: a prima digna type shit, and I was. But I
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: think one thing when I started getting comfortable is just
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: really buying into like the team atmosphere and really accepting
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: my role and not really worried about like what people think,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: and just trying to go from worry about being great
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: to just getting good each day, but also just swimming.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: You know, when you get selected high, like you look
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: at Anthony Bennett, they cut you know, Andy Bennet could
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: still be good, but like they undercome quick and like, bro,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: you're sad, like you needed like two thorough years. He
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: was done within like twenty games and shit. So I
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: was just on some like sink or swim and like
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: try to figure out how to be the best player
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I could.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: And that's one thing that they don't speak about a lot,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: is like when you come in the league, especially when
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: you have expectations, is there's no time for you to
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: fuck up, and you have to be less to be
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: in a good organization or to have good vets. If
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: you don't have either one of them, or if you
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: don't have both, hit can get real spooky. And then,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: like you said, you bring work home with you, you all
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: in your head trying to play basketball.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: You forget how good you off that shit.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I'm playing in Philly, bro that the worst fans ever. Yeah,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: I'm playing in Philly. Is definitely different. So I felt
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: as though like being in Philly for that little bit
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: of time really kind of not saying like made us
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: sick on a sense of how I like viewed the
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: game of basketball. I was just like, you know, kind
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: of like fuck it, I'm gonna have fun with it.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: But once I left fifth Philly, there was nothing ever
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: that serious that was like that bad or tough because
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: all that pressure there was od yea, I was supposed
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: to be the number two pick and do whatever I
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: went complete opposite and they had to like conteenue to swim,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. After my fourth year in
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: the league, dudes were signing for thirty some million and
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I'm all for two hundred and fifty thousand, you know
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: what I mean. Like when dudes were signing, like I'm
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: trying to it was damn there like September, I damn,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: they didn't have a place to go. Dam I'm twenty
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: five years old. Like people are hitting the streets, asked
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: you staying in the league or going overseas? M hm.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: So when you're sitting down, you're like, damn, just four
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: years ago, I had ship popping. But you know what
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I mean. So like I just felt like I had
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: to really you know, lock in, buckle in, but like
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: almost on like some ship Entourage ship. When it came
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: to Anny Chase, like bro, I'm not getting I'm not
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: getting lead roles no more, you know what I'm saying.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: And that was just like the real thing. Where was
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: you off to next?
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Portland?
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I ended up going to Boston.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: And that's when when you h that's why, Yeah.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: That's when the band came.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Everybody can came together. Boy.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Uh, we had Uh, we definitely had two years in Boston.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: It was definitely fun and you know it, it had uh
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: obviously reunited a feeling for me enjoy playing basketball and
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: also had uh had a great foundation for a landing point.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: When I was done, I still go to Boston. You know,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: you get get mad love and at the same time
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: have opportunities to still you know, it's been Uh, my
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: position and game of basketball just help for sure.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Man, we got we're gonn fast too far. We got
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: to talk about y'all linoking up in Boston.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Man, It's to be honest with you. Gee, Like I
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: thought it was cool. I knew Jeff was cool, but
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I used to be like, bro, if you're this funny,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: why do you not show that, like, like literally show
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: people that. Like I thought he's the funniest dude on earth.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Now I thought he was nice, and Uh, the funniest
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: thing about Boston I was waiting around to Uh. It
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: was either I was gonna retire or I was waiting
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: for Boston, like I ain't have no chances. And Brad
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: was kind of like, maybe I'll throw you a bone.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: So like when it came down between me and Jeff,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I'm talking like poor Allen's like, man, it's between you
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: and Jeff. I'm like, well, y'all should just take Jeff
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: because I'm not better than Jeff. Like if y'all trying
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: to win a championship, I'm like, bro, that's just that's
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: O D. So then we show up and like they
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: take Jeff and like I'm just like, all right, I
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: guess I'll on the coaching pretty much. Jeff is just
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: like we end up being like.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: One of the times.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: The back of the bitch. I'll look over and Jeff
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: and like you have his shoelace. Sometime we just be
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: told was that nigga not brough there? At one point
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, I'm right, Bro, this is how you
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: know it's different. And it's like, bro, everywhere you go,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: like you would be able to keep your initial don't
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: name is Jeff t you know. So when we're going
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: on the board, I'm looking at Brad and Brad like
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: JD k W and Jet j T Like what the
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: fuck is Jet? Like is Jet? Yeah? It is like
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Jeff TIGG. I'm like, my nigga, you can't he's older
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: than Jason Table. He can't get his.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: In you remember, and that's you know what's loked up
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: about it?
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: He wrote to play. He was like JT said somebody else,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: So I'm thinking I got the ball. I'm like all right.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: So I was like, hold on when I when he
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: go here, I go here. He's like no, no, no, no,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: you're here, Jet.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: What the Kim? Kim in tears and I'm in the back.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Bro, No, they ain't just call you Jet.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Kim is crying.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: Kim called me Jet the rest of the year. Bro,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Smiff is crazy. Bros is like kidding at ain't walking
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: like little please?
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: But that that time in Boston, I mean, I don't
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: know how Jet felt. Hell, like, what the hell are
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: we doing moment? Because it's COVID. Yeah, man, like I'm
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: trying to tell dudes that were better than me how
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: to play basketball. That's when I knew coaching was full
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: of ship because I was like, I'm like a dacity you, Bro,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: this man is a problem in that, you know. Yeah,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: they had me beat Jason Tatum position like, Bro, he's
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: not listen to shout out say like you know what
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I mean. I'm like, Bro, I'm not gonna tell him
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: nothing like a work one on with this like, no,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: it's perfectly fine. But we were able to. We got,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: we made bonds, were playing one over. Yeah, for sure,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: we got.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: We got a classic group chat Man midwe called the
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: mid West Group chat Man. We all became really cool.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: That experience in Boston. Bro, it's funny as hell, what
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: did you? I wanted to always ask us.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Even in that experience in Boston, I still thought you
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: had a two or three more years to play like
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: what you did. Boston kind of stopped. We saw each
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: other in Atlanta and I told you before, Bro, it's
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: almost over for me. Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: You told me not that you shouldn't be here and
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: so you shouldn't be so you shouldn't be in London.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: They're gonna get eleven point two minutes per game.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: He told me that, and they I didn't sign. They
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: offered me a year another year after that, but I
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: didn't sign. I should have had signed it. I don't
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: know what I was thinking, but I hated it so
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: much because I was like, damn, I love Atlanta, but
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: they told me I had a cap like you can
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: only play.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Nineteen minutes, you know what I mean?
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: It was just like Damn, I was just averaging fourteen
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: off the bench of Minnesota.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Well, I come here. All I can get is nineteen minutes.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Bro, I was them there being a runner for six
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: man fourteen and twenty two minutes.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: I was hoping.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I was like, nah, and I thought COVID happened. I
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: should have went.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: To the next.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Tim's like, come on to the next You're gonna probably start.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: But then Brad caught me. It was like, Kimba's out,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: You're gonna start. Kimball's going Kimba's out for you. Remember
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Kimball was hurting and then you woke up. He was like,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: you're gonna start. Kimball's out, and I'm like, damn. The
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Celtics cold like. I was like the Knicks. I don't
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: know too much about the Knicks. Ain't got nobody, So
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I'm go to Boston. I was like, that's gonna really
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: get me back.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: And I got there.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: He was like, we're gonna start markets at the point,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be the sixth man.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: The six man.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: I'm like, in the first game, I hooked like three layers.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: But I'm right, mane, I'm in a bench, like Bro,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: they just can't get right but he don't.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Breakaway left to say, but it got to the point
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I didn't miss a three the whole preseason.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: No time out. You was missing so many layups. We
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: had played three on three and when you have made
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: a layup, run them short.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: It's like he usually miss, so miss little jet with us.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I was so scared to shoot the left at that time,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I would really shoot a three. I was making so
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: many threes. I was like, fuck that. I ain't running
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: to fast breaks. I was running to the corner.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Damn.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: I was scared to shoot a layup. Damn. I don't
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: know why.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: But then I had a game at the end where
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: we started playing again. My labs came back, but I
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: couldn't shoot no more. My three was broke his hell.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: But that was did you ever tell and you said
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: something that was this one of like Jeff a lot
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: of Pauls because he was his opin was super different
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: and might to somebody that like be saying some off
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: the wall stuff. My year, that's my man, And I
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: remember we're in a gym and you're like, bro, that's
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: my unpopular opinion. But I think James Harden is a
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: better shooting guard than Kobe.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Bryant, don't say that. I've been waiting to say this,
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: so we would have talked about this. This is gonna
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: go virus.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Getting killed for so long. Can seriously man, Kobe right,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: he said the k was better than Kobe as episode.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: You can call me. They're going after you.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: That's that's at that time we were talking about We're
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: talking about that. Okay, I did not say that.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I'm ill be be lying too. He ain't say none
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: of that.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: I ain't going down that, Kobe, bro.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: But you had great the dude that said it had
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: great day, I said, And then I said that.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not going to say that. Never mind you,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: it was good.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: It was Jailer and was battling and him, were just
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: having a conversation and e T And Jason was there.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: It was I think you said. And then Jason and
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Jay they went crazy. They went nuts. They definitely went nuts.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: But to be honest with.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: You, you're con persuaded me a bit, don't I'm telling
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: so Ship, that's the first.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Time we fought. You was at me on that. And
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: then I just remember we would be in the back
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: of the bench. We always have these crazy debates. So
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: that's the first person that really told him how cold
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Luca was. That's effect I give it. So like when
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: we sitting behind the bench, like Luca kind of going
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: through like his first half, like things like Bro, I
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: don't know jee, this man kind.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Of like it's a fire as story.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: But you're like, man, this man kind of like lazy,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: like he's just not doing nothing for me. He whined.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, Bro, that's like you don't run up
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: the court. I'm like, bro, look at him. He the man.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I'm like Luca him, he's not worried about no regular
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: season game in fact, So then we keep going, said Bro,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: you sure he good? I said, Bro, he gonna turn
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: it on. He's really him. So like where were we
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: We're up ten or twelve. He's in Dallas. So we
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: in Dallas and it's like Bro, JB and j T
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: getting rid of us. Man, I said, Bro, I'm telling you,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: like it might not look good now, but in clutch,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: if they get close, we're not gonna win, he said.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: I said, Bro. I said, I'm just saying, the game
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: get close, we're not gonna win. So, like the game
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: start creeping down. So the more and more he at
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: me and I'm like.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Like you, he's a coach.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: I'm a player and they weren't listening to.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: That's how crazy this that season was.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting in the crowd with him, like down with
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: the players. It's COVID. So I'm sitting by him. There's
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: just kick.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: The kicking the ship like everything. So I'm senter. I said, bro,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: if you get closer, like we're not gonna win. Like
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you. He's like that. Bro, He's just like that,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: like he's just it. So it get closer, they call
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: the time out and like I think they're down like two,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: So like Jeff like get it, like bro, like ain't
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: no way. I'm like, bro, I'm telling you, And he
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: like you did.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: I called about to do that that step back he
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: hit the game winner.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: And literally bro, and like while we watching it, Jeff watching,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: I'm back there like Dickie and watch watch.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: Like that.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Literally he learned about Luca dont.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Hit the shot, looked at him, he's I told you
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: we worked for the Celtics.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I told you.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I told you. I'm like, damn, we celebrated ship.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Look ship.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: I was like, j T, that's some bullship, man, We're
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: gonna be up. I quit after this ship anyway kind
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: of knew. I'm like, man like, just be worried about him.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: But I thought that was a dope day because at
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: the end of that's the first time that youbody ever listening.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like April, I was like, years cold. What made
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: it so funny? J T, that's a shower. I got
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: we Go. That's why I love et we Go. There
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: he was like, Luca better than me.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: He was like, damn near.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I was like what.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: I was like, Nah, hell no, j He was like, Bro,
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: he's my favorite player. That's a yo et crazy bro
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: favorite player.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: My daughter man, Luca was she did bro? I said, Bro, dude,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: that's my favorite player. I'm like, man, like, you got
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: to meet Luca. Like now that you go to the store,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: you like I saw uncle Jason on somebody. Yeah, that's
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: but you got to meet remember that you got but
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: funny ship like Jason, that's one of my favorite players. Fast.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I gotta ask how I feel to see them. Know
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, be Victorias, y'all know what I'm saying.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Y'all saw them early on, putting in the hard work
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: for them to win, and y'all to know them for real?
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: For how did that feel to see them cross one?
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: Man?
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: I thought it was I thought it was dope.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: You know what Tatum, Bro, he's such a good dude.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: So when you sit there like like when you talk
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: to me, listen when I was young, Bro, I wann't listening.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Ship for real, So like when you talk to me,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: really take advice, Like, Bro, you a good kid. But
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: when when when he tasks back in and like you know,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: you talk to him like you really want people like
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: that to win? You know what I'm saying. Even when
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: you sit there and you build brotherhood like Jack my
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: fault Jeff, Jeff won the championship and he facetimed us
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: from the locking. Yeah, when you sit down, it's like
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: when you look at Club five twenty and everything, Like, Bro,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I be turned up for y'all because anybody brother, it
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: is dope to see you know, good people winning.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Sure you feel about you. That's why our group chat.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: When we be talking, I'd be just having a bob,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: but I'll be telling him some of the stuff we
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: talking about, just not everything, but some of the stuff
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: that we'd be like laughing.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: At, joking about.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: But like j T, like you said, see him win
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: and know how much like how bad he wanted to win.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: We was like yeah, but me and.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: E TV like, hey, man, what he doing?
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Like we was watching the finals like man, he birst
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: started playing because you.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Know I'm betting, Like.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like j T for real, Man, is he
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: gonna make? He need some free thrones?
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Know you gonna how seriously when we FaceTime, you know
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: it's I'm like.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Bro, you see it when my man trophy away, I'm like,
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: how we feel? How we feel you knowing like what
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: you think? Literally he said he not even be pick
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: what were doing?
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Man? Was come on, that's my fault of you with
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: your wifey. I called man late but like you you
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: see this right saying, I'm like, man, this nigga got
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I gotta talk to somebody.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Said he's not MVP.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: What we doing?
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Said?
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I said, Jaylen played glease, I'm not
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: hearing that.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I said. It's like, so what that means for our legacy?
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: This is all because when you think about that run,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: which is crazy. We talked about like you look at
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Jordan ninety two, he had that crazy run of a
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: championship MVP whopped the damn Like maybe Brian did it
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: once or whatever, but like when you thought about it,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: how many times is it perfectly set up for somebody
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: to win a championship auto Olympics and when it's coming
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: to the changing of like the tight and yeah it was.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: It was really set in prime. Even if you think
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: about like the Sports Center, like Sports Illustrated article or
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: like shit, he dropped his Jordan three during the Olympics,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: I like it just seems like that's why I was
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: so mad about the Olympics.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like supposed to be a changing of
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the guard, and I just felt like it was supposed
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: to be him because it was all set up, even
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: though it might be in AE.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know who it was really.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: But like this what made me so mad that never
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: happened to anybody else.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Bro, you understand, I don't give a damn what you're
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: talking about. I'm the star player. I know him, Melity,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: But like Derek White, Drew, y'all better say, y'all ain't
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: playing get into because the world ain't right.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: That's the fact.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: The world already fucked up.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: It's like they tried to dim his light on purpose
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: and they're just like, oh, he's taking it this striw
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: he's such a good one.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: No, he crashed out.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Bro, that's the first time I felt like they
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: went crazy on the ricelin. Let's target it, Bro, if
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: you think about it, I felt like it was something
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: deeper balls and just like rotation. Now you say, I
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: can't hop like give me eleven minutes.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was supposed to be in the rotation. But
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: like Bro said, Jeff made a great point like maybe
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: he come back, like he's.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Gonna come back.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Steve Steve, Steve, he quit before they fired him. They
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: said this was this was his last.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: He knew last I was man when he shout up
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: to the lookings like Nigga, I saw what you did
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: last sum with this team. They was like, you gotta go,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: but we need j T for the Great Hill on
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: his way out too. He keeps troubling let Great Hill too.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Because the fact shot man, y'all know this, Nigga man
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Haler Burden DJ DJ like the fact like, for instance,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: they didn't have like dang mm hmmm, I'm team us
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: a shot out to Haller Burdon. But like then they
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: have Kyrie, like come on, my g like two little
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: cold dudes and then let the killers be like I
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: don't know, Like that was crazy, bro.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: And when he said we might considering Jailer Brown for
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: between twenty years, I said, he's out of.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Old, out the pot. Here's true, he's definitely trying. It's
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: like thirty one, like by time to get today age,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be super rich. Like, Bro, I don't start
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: my own country. I told you.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Contry hop it up here. I'm playing for so then
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: next twenty eight reversible Lou.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I laughed, you Bro, I laugh you, Bro. I lad me,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: look who's the best player you ever played with? Mm hmm, Bro,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: it's a it's so different. I think pound for pound,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: damn name was cold but Isaiah Thomas. Because when you
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: break it down, bro, niggas, you would be like in
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: practice and you see Brad talking to him and he'd
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: be looking up you, like, Bro, this is our best
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: player for this, you know what I mean? Like you
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: the shortest doing the huddle heat like five eight, this
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: is the lead dog. But like literally, Bro, every the
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: stuff I saw him doing ain't a night out like
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: how talented he was. But one thing that occurred that
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: I think that. I always said, like that little fucker
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: always worked, like I'm talking about like work work, work,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: like show up at the gym seven to eight, like
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: even now, like still working. And I always thought like, uh,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: how you hoop? But like the fire in his eyes
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: or something like I had never really seen. I thought
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: PG was pretty cold to be like like when we
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: were young, like he was, like he's still cold, don't
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: get it twisted. But the stuff he did with Indy
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: when I played with him for a couple of months. Pause.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Uh he was twenty two years old dropping forty in
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: the old school playoffs. Yeah yeah that like oh, like
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: like why they sports were still one hundred type shit?
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: And then uh, man, Drew Howday was cold cold Drew
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Howdy was like, to be honest with you, because everybody
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: just mentioned like head the head Drew did they like?
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: I think Drew was probably like the best I ever
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: played with.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now yeah, man, you talk, you talk bunch a
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: couple of coffee with the pacers.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Man, what happened?
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: What was that team? Like?
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: I killed them?
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: You was coach? You don't know what happened? This is
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: what people be forgetting too. I don't know. I just
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: got there late, so like niggas wildly. But I think
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: one thing that happened you got to understand too, Like
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Jeff correct me if I'm wrong. Before All Star, dudes
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: go super hard falls. Once All Star is over and
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: dudes kind of get their accolade, they kind of turn
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: off a bit. So like when we were sitting there,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: we were already kind of taking l's, we were taking adjustments.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: But then I think what came down to us, like
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: with team and competitiveness when you bring me in, like,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: of course ears are going to perk up. Like you
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: got two dudes trying to sign contracts. Lance Stevenson was
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: ahead of me. You had Paul, George, George Hill. Like
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: arguably you can sit there and be like George would
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: be like, damn, he might take my spot. This might
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: be like he might take my spot and such just such,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: and who after Ben and I come in. You know
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: my personality like talking ship ornery like you know what
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, like joking, like poking the bear, like I
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: just you know what I'm saying, just know what's you know,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: know what's going on, but having fun with it. And
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: I think aside from that, I think the chemistry is
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: one thing but like, bro, we weren't good enough to
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: beat the heat nigga, Like when people are asking that
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: dumb ass question and we cut rotations, So like, y'all
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: gotta shout out Roy Hibbert because I think he was
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: unbelievable in George Hill too, Dope dudes, Roy was averaging
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: six and six bro, and shout out to like Frank
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Vogel because I wasn't mad. I'm like, yo, roll with
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: your killers, but like he's killing us like ship but
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: like and this is not Roy Hibbert like slander because
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Roy Hibbert don't get enough credit for what he's done.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah that verticality, bro, he's a real own star trying
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: to clown them.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: But he wasn't like nothing. You know, George Hill, I
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: think ye had something like when we were playing our
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: main go to guys, I don't think we had enough
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: firepower when we cut the rotation down the second mm hmm.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: You're like, come on, brother, you had me like yeah,
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: me on a like not me now, Like it was
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, y'alls all right, so it was nice CJ. Watson,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Like you had Louis Skola that was still like ramone.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah he was yeah, yeah he was cutting like rotations.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I just think you're not taking out Broun and all
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: without you know, having a new scheme. But Bro, we
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: weren't being the heatles Bro and I just I thought
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: that was like a great starting five. But everybody has
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: to perform play at a high level. And we only
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: had like three people playing at the high level. And
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: you can't and they're three was who Yeah, And then
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: when you break it down like after that, you know
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: me and Lance y'all probably we had talked about this.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Me and Lance got into it. And what was so
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: funny with that was, uh, me and Lance hung out
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: every day at each other. Yeah, we say we sat
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: next to each other on the plane, like me and
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: him would go out together, like together. And I remember
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: we're going through like a walkthrough and just like young dudes,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: you can instigate some ship Andrew bite him is sitting
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: on the sideline. Yes, yes, Andrew bidam sitting on the sideline.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: And I guess we like going through walkthrough. So me
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: and Lance are kind of like playing around and like
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: I think something happened when he's trying to go for
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: real and like I think I might have stopped him,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: and like I think coach yelled, there's something weird. It's
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: like a weird moment. So then like Andrew's like, ooh,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: he stopped at like and Lance like, man, come on,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Burtis ain't got the type of heart I got little
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: but Lance, if you know, it's personality, that's how it's
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: just how you talk to New York. And like, you know,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: I didn't really kind of take it like oh d
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: because like at the same time, it's like, come on, brother,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: I think it's bugging. This is but you know what
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, like you're bugging. So like we go through
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: it again, and uh, I think I did the same
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: thing again, kind of like slapped his stop through whatever.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: And we kind of like a little tussling a little bit,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: and I think I kind of like slapped something again.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: So when I turn around, he's like, don't do that
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: shit no more. So like when he put his finger
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: in my face, swipe, swipe, we grab each other's throat scratch, men,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: I got like duper scratch and I like little scratch,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: like duper scratch. Yeah. So then we get off the
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: court and then uh it got broken up or whatever,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: and then uh shit, that was it. That literally was
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: like the whole moment of the playoffs and was used
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: and so like that's what ruined us, and it's like
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: now we was fired. Lance was like really like that
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: was my man's like you know, as little kids when
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: you're younger, when you fight over a box of cereal,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: like off the principality of it. And I thought that
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: was pretty much it. And just like a little bit
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: of shout out to Indiana up in like a fan
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: base that wasn't real estate. Lord Jesus, am I wrong
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: for saying that?
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Is that the end was not right at that time
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: because Larry kept drafting white people. So I didn't really care.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: We needed we needed to reto he got plumbly. I
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: was all right, I'm calling these niggas right now.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: How we like local fans? How hard pause? How hard
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: did we jagged a considering? Because you'll probably really thought
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: we had a chance to win. Y'all was supposed to
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: lose to US. I wasn't.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: We was up gate we y'all was in Atlanta game
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: six down three two?
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Oh you all right?
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: Bro?
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Who got hot that game?
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: For?
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: David was hitting it off the backboard.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the one big foreign dude, Yeah, that's the
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: reasoner version of Ivan Johnson.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: That's why Peril could play. I mean, Hibbert couldn't play
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: no more. We put Peril three shooting on them three.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: But what y'all thing? Y'all thought he was gonna win
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: the chip that year? But what did y'all keep it
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: real with you? Like man having old bitch ass and
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: came out here and fucked up the team like because
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: literally that's all I ever heard after that, Like bro,
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: I literally shot four times a game at average seven.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: We made it so funny. It was being around and
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: knowing some of the tape.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: You know, you weren't there was problem you fucking and
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I knew that, But they just blamed you because they
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: treated Danny.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: That's that's the only thing. You just got slack because
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: they tried.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: That and Danny and Danny average six, I average seven.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: You want to know what made me so mad? I
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: shot fifty percent from the three with the pacers. I
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: ain't never done that, damn. Like so when I'm sitting here,
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I hate this bottom, Like you know what
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, use his high hand, use this book. That's
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: the only thing I'm showing. Fifty percent They got so
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: after that, I never shot at three again, and it
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: was just a bad fit. That's a bad fit. But
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: like that time, it hit me with a doozy like
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: I said, I was supposed to have an eight point
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: seven million dollars signing bonus. Damn my dumb ass trying
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: to be probably for like, man, this team, y'all keep
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: the playoff money. So I gave up a quarter million, man, hey,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: find me a new team, like all right, you mis
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: qualifying bonus. And then in sordanter Ferrari that same week.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: But you know somebody has like I guess I didn't
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: comprehend how serious it was obvious. Yeah, So then that
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: free agency comes out in like July first, like my
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: phone ain't ring. Then we get always fighting ship like
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: August mitched cup Check called me and it's like, what
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: do you do. I'm like, I guess I dribble shoot
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: like you know, that's what Kobe do. I'm kind of
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: like Kobe, like, don't call me and ask me what
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: I did. And I'm like, with all due respect, man,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: like I'm not saying on the best, but like you
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: all didn't lost y'all, like owen forever the past three years,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: not average like twenty five, like to offer me a quarter,
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: I'll get it off the block and type shit like
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: but be and honestly I was not. I'm never like that,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: so don't get At the same time, Familion, I'm like, bro, like,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: we'll get off the bike. Seriously, like you might as
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: well throw my life away and get it off the block.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: And that's not being like, that's ignorantly speaking. That's what
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: I thought at the time. And I'm luckily shout out
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: to Brad Stevens. He's like, bro, I can't let people
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: to you like that. I don't know what change you found.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: But he gave me a little bit of money and
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: help me, help me and like, no joke, help me
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: get my career back. Because even when I left that
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: situation with the Pacers, you got to think I went
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: from like the six series of like I was supposed
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: to be like a megastar and then I wasn't. And
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: then ship just hit the ground, and you know, you
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: go to a real point where Jeff, you relate, are
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: you going overseas or you're going to play and stay
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: and fight? So that was, uh, that's real as ship.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Like we laugh about it, but you know, I joke
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: about it but it was some real stuff and you know,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: obviously it didn't stay dark forever.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Plays in the playoffs when you was in Boston. Yeah,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: I have a squad, but y'all talk the most shit.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: I said, they put Jay Crowder. All these safety.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: We talked the most. Ship were all mid except from
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: one dude bro like one person get hot. Like everything
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: I te average thirty. I eat my little ten. And
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: then every blue moon when I go get seventeen, and
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: you're gonna hear about it twenty every game I have seventeen. Yeah,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: little nigga.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Everybody had Avery Bradley talk. He never even talked.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but like that was like that was and if
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: you think about it, it's like the real first time
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: they'll tell you I really jumped out my shell for real,
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: because like around that time, I was kind of like
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: I was still on the portrait guards to like marketing
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: wise Brandon, So like, you know, that was the real
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: time I was like, Man, I'm just gonna be wan,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: gonna be forget, like trying to be perfect. It's like
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: that shit ain't worked, and legit, ship we I really
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: jumped off the porch and Sundays Man Sundays Tuesdays Wednesdays
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: before or after that as a hobby, you know, but
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: like not jump off the porch and on weird stuff.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: But it's like that comrader in that team ship. It
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: was like, Bro, I realized it took more and not
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: saying like partying, but it took more to really like
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: build relationships and what really makes a great team and
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: atmosphere like ship. We were we were seventh in the East, Bro,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: but you couldn't tell us like Tom Brady was walking
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: the city and we swore we had the streets on wine,
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: you know, like we go to clubs, I'd be like
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: I would be on a microphone shining out niggas. That's
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: getting ten minutes again, Jordan, We really, bro, We had
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: it cracking. Did won every game?
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: Y'all.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Ain't want to play some things four Thanksgiving, All Star,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: second Nights of back to be like that's the only
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: reason why we got the forty five wins. Was like
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: a twenty win talent. We just tried.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: By used to. I ain't go like, y'all, did you know,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: it's like damn these niggas is good?
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Bro. I t was so different, Bro, different, Bro. When
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: you think he was about like, where do you rank him?
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Where do you like? At that time?
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: He was the toughest cover for me, like.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: With Brad Stevens offense, So buck bro, he was.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: The toughest bro. Everything ran through him. But he didn't
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: have a ball the whole time, like y'all used to
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: run that little floor Where were you called?
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: Four snap?
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: I think? And Kelly have to be this somebody and
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: you bro Kelly Olennitt was throwing that motherfucking shalt Well.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, this ship is wow. He was nice,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: he t I mean, I was cold, Bro. I ain't
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: gonna lie. He was a tough cover and he got
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: fouled so much.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah yeah, went to the line like a motherfucker
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: was he? What about with d Rose?
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Oh no, d Rose, Like I'm talking about that tom
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: My t was a tough color all timas d Rose.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Nothing you can do, Bro. You could bag all the
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: way up in the paint. You could sit on the dots.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: Bro.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: He will run at you, just jump over you.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: You what the fuck?
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: So then if you get close, he run right by you.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: You get the medium he crossed you get. But I'm like, Bro,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I can't guard this food man. That's why I tell you,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Harry hot Light, if you go look, will he run
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: that MVP year? Probably on fifty of them?
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Bro, like different color jurneys that motherfucking cap.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: Yo.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: What was it like? Uh? Was playing with Joe Johnson's
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: cold man?
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: He probably, I tell everybody, probably the most skilled player
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: I played with because his handle, he could shoot, float
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: or post up. He ain't really had no like no
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: on his game. He could play defense. Only thing he
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: couldn't do. He won the athletic but he could score
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: with the best of them. He was really liked that.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: And what was your favorite era?
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Fatigue?
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: Right over?
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: I don't get this nigga.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Because it's dope the here now like as friends that
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: went on the journey with him, like growing up, it's
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: like ship y'all met, and like how long you know
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: each other?
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Niggas?
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: You think about really well, this nigga probably win't right
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: before he made the All Star and through on, like
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: right that year before that's when I really start going
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: to the A heavily.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. He was a different player for sure
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: to me.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: To me, I probably said the first two years in
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: Minnesota for sure, wet.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: When did y'all start hearing the streets and Indie going
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: back to the locals and being like, Yo, my nigga,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: my nigga, Jeff better than Mike Conley because I know
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: that was.
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: Because that had to be, like y'all, did y'all ever
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: go back like you wouldn't really like, let's talk about it.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: It was really e j or nothing like even as
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: good as Mike was, j was got even even.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: What he did to Derrick Rose and high school was crazy.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: He did the Jordan kids. Bro, that's what markets is
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: on that Bro's order story.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Bogus. They bogus because he wasn't supposed to be up
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: in there and they knew that that was like that
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: was our like, Bro, it was like the nineteenth best
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: team on Earth and they got an ESPN game. But
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: that was just that was it was. You would have
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: been cool, but he already played ranked players. Yeah, like
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Jordan's coming to the building, Gordon, it was bigger than
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: what you think you think, so it was a whole
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: production he put on. But like, Bro, you wasn't. It
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: wasn't time. It was bigger that I actually like that.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: That was some real talk.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: It was bigger than For sure, that was bigger because
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: we knew Jordan's kids was cool, but I forgot his name,
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: the other Jordan, not the fry one, the oldest one.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: He had an offer from Jeff Jordan. Jeffy was but
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: they was both Illinois kids at the time. Yeah, so
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: that was ADU. So what's so funny is I get
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: up aired for that? Eric Gordon was, Uh, he was
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: committed to Illinois. So during that time I was supposed
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: to commit and de Rose was supposed to commit.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I remember sitting there and being like, all right, bro,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: we might have pause have a three headed monster, but
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: de Rose want to commit, and I'm telling them like, yo,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: I'll wait until Derek commits. But it just never happened.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: And I feel like that was like one of the
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: real reasons pushed me to a house state too. H
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: e Gordon started, Uh, he de committed. He took his
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: ass on the Indiana, which was very very smart because
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: that made no goddamn sense. And then uh shit, that
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: was it. Man, y'all, Homie and Hoop, they're Devin doing this.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Shout to do them out.
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: Y'all have been cool though, get him on the pot
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: y'all have been cool at all show that's my guy.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like that for sure would have been.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: Crazy you d Rose, Eric Gordon, that would have been hard, Bro,
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: I probably would have made it.
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: You think y'all would have been better than Luther Head
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: Darren Williams and uh what's my boy?
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I discriminated against people on the sticky Bro, so
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, don't ask me, don't ask me ifout
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: you one of those come saying I'm six seven. It's
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: like when you sit there, I think like you a
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: better career though, like like the Illinois up they rose
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: went to the final four, like the championship game is damnself?
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Eric Gordon average twenty seven, like they was probably been
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: on the bench for just serious, Bro, you would have played.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Bro?
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: You six seven?
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Bro?
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: All you at the four? Bro, it's college. Thats my
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: big ten. The ball the first for I don't want
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: to start playing playing like a start. I'm playing like
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: a bum. You're gonna get that shots, Bro stopped talking
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: to me. I'm like, I got six shots. Man. My
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: homie started the game shooting jumping my line.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: You ain't lied what's up? Ro Roll? I know you.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: I know, we got to get out of here. So
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: but you get the big deal from Portland.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: After your good years in Boston, you do your thing,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: you come back, you bounce back. Now you get the
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: big deal from Portland.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: What's that like, bro? Man? That was you don't like
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: to get some money from That was the first time
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: I really like, damn, you know what I mean? Like,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: so I remember going to sleep because you remember, I
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: just told you two years before they did me dirty.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, no, I just know my my free
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: agency finna be. It's gonna be. And so I remember
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: I'm like waking. I talked to my agent the night
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: before it starts paused, and I legit. He'said, you should
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: be straight. We'll have some dope stuff going, like we're
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: gonna start at like fifty. I'm like, oh, that's perfect,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: Like shit, I'll do fifty. And I just remember like
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: going to sleep and waking up in the middle of
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: the night and being like, bro, if they give me
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: fifty million dollars, I'm gonna be mad than I'm a motherfucker.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, like in my head
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: because like I had to make up for the last one.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: But I also say now just be grateful. So then
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: like when I wake up, my agent calls me and it'say, yeah,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: I got a deal for you, and I'm like what
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: is and he's like from Portland. I'm like, okay, I
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: talked to dang right before that. It's like and I'm like, well,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: what is it. He's like, it's a four year deal
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: for like seventy So I'm like seventeen and he's like no,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: like seventy and I'm like, oh my god, like you know.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: So then I call my mom and I'm like, yo, Mom,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna sign the Portland and I'm gonna get like,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna sign in Portland for four years seventy millions.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: She's like seventeen. I'm like no, like seven and a
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: d and my friend and like my mom was like
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: that's crazy. She's like that was crazy. That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: And she's like, oh my god, and I'm like yeah,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: So like I'm next. I was supposed to go to
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Portland like the fifth so like I felt like lottery ticket,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: like I was trying not to die. So that's we're
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: gonna get you up here. Due press conference like went
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: like today they're like no. I'm like the fifth I'm
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: like no, I can come Like we don't need to
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: do no, I said, bro, I don't need none of
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: that ship just like go get it, like let's get
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: this deal and like call it to day. But I think, like,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: you know, one thing that occurred that was like pretty cool.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: Besides like the money factor was which was cool, it's
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: going to the West. I had so much respect for
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: the teams in the West because I've been in the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: East for so long. I just remember being like, damn,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: like this is definitely going to be tougher. But you know,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: as a team like go you know, I was able
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: to go to Western Conference finals for the first time.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: We had two fifty years win seasons, and I thought,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: like shit, like we were able to adapt and do
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: some dope stuff. Granted, I mean Dame did it his
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: damn self, but I mean I was still enjoying myself
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: and having fun. But I think that that part was
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: just a unique time to try to you know and
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: figure out, you know, new ways to play the game
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: and open up your role. But at the same time,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: we had like, you know, the second best back corner NBA,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: and it was that was you know, that's a fun
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: time to watch, fun time and be around. But uh,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: you know, I think personally I kind of saw the
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: writing on the wall. I don't know about you, Jeff,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: but like, sometimes you just get tired of like like
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  Speaker 2: always adjusting, bro, you know what I mean. Like, and
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  Speaker 2: sometimes it wasn't bad, but at one point actually like
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  Speaker 2: not like I keep adjusting my role, adjusting my role
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  Speaker 2: to the point where it was like kind of like
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  Speaker 2: no and void, which wasn't like terrible, but it was
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  Speaker 2: also at the same time, like how else can I
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  Speaker 2: make an impact here unless you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: unless I'm able to play heavy or you know, get
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  Speaker 2: to that, you know, be able to be in those
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  Speaker 2: final minutes. And that was kind of where I knew
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  Speaker 2: to myself moving on from there. I always just say like, yo,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to go overseas the second contrast stop coming.
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  Speaker 2: I'll chalk it up like a man and just be like, yo,
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  Speaker 2: it's over. You know what I'm saying. And the same
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  Speaker 2: way I was able to take like a thirty year
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  Speaker 2: old spot when I was twenty two, I'm like, that's
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  Speaker 2: just a game, and I just knew, like, shit, that's
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  Speaker 2: a sign and on some trade me like three times
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  Speaker 2: in a year. I'm like, man, that shit did I
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  Speaker 2: ain't gonna keep playing with me like or that ten days?
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  Speaker 2: Like you mean like go somewhere for ten days and
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  Speaker 2: then not play. It's like like, nah, bro, young kiss my,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like sign that one thing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm grateful for, like the league and everything.
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  Speaker 2: But I was definitely ready to start the new chapter
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: and comprehend like, Yo, it's been a hell of a run.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, Portland's cool, Portland's a fun time and
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  Speaker 2: it was some great runs and great battles and but
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  Speaker 2: you know it's damn the people say I played ten.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, Bro, I played eight. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't in a sense like nothing bad, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: just the time time and changed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, man, but you stuck around. But listen, man,
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  Speaker 1: at we gotta do this again. Man, you failed me
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  Speaker 1: at the show. You ain't even a guess, But that's
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  Speaker 1: a fact. I want to check my man's out. I
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  Speaker 1: gotta hide the point for park Man. Tell the people
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  Speaker 1: that need to have to be into bro.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you know, man. First off, follow me aving turn
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  Speaker 2: And then Ship and you listen to point for it.
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  Speaker 2: N T F O r W A r D because
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  Speaker 2: can't spell. And then the last but not least, y'all
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  Speaker 2: like this pause, y'all be kicking it like it's dope ist,
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• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: help me out. Dad asks all right or else I'm
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: gonna have to go back to work now. But for real, bro,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: I appreciate y'all having me on and what y'all, what
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: y'all is doing is dope. And like Jeff, you're the
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: coolest dude I ever met. I'm glad you found your
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: lane and like people can really see how bright of
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: a personality special you know, a dudes you are in
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  Speaker 2: a nine crazy way. But like Ship, you know, I
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: thought you was like cold at hooping, but like Bro,
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  Speaker 2: you funny as fuck. So I appreciate you able to
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  Speaker 2: do and like with your your homies, are able to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: really jump on pause. I appreciate what your niggas doing.
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