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173: Super CreepFest · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 7: I'm almost at the final checking point, except I have
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  Speaker 7: to deal with those zombies.
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  Speaker 1: They keep biting my neck.
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  Speaker 6: Way down among Brazilians, coffee beans drove by the billions.
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  Speaker 8: So they've got to find those extra cups to fill.
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  Speaker 9: They got an awful lot of coffee in Brazil.
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  Speaker 2: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian. I'm Ben.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Fred.
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  Speaker 10: I'm Lucy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Greg. So we are back for another edition of
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  Speaker 2: the Caffeinated Movie Geek.
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  Speaker 1: Cappuccino my butt.
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  Speaker 6: I still drink coffee.
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  Speaker 10: The last fucking thing you need is another cup of coffee.
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  Speaker 11: It's time for the Caffeinated Movie Geek.
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  Speaker 2: We are coming to you live via digital recording from
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  Speaker 2: Nancy's Bagel Grounds, where we will get together, drink coffee,
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  Speaker 2: and endlessly talk about movies. So, Lucy, I ask you,
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  Speaker 2: what blend of coffee are we drinking this week?
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  Speaker 10: I lost my nerve. Damn it. I was going to
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  Speaker 10: sing it. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, come on. No.
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  Speaker 12: Oh, come on.
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  Speaker 13: Just imagine that I said Thunderbuck to the tune of Thunderstruck,
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  Speaker 13: and that's what it would be.
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  Speaker 2: It's just cheap now. You've got to do it. You've
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  Speaker 2: got to throw up some devil horns.
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  Speaker 14: Come on.
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  Speaker 2: Let's follow through with this.
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  Speaker 10: Fred, can you do it?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know the reference.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: What is this?
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  Speaker 10: Okay, anyway, Thundermark. It's delicious. Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: I'll sing it to the tune of anything I know.
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  Speaker 2: Bee Gees is where we're going.
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  Speaker 6: Well, for some reason, maybe it was because, you know,
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  Speaker 6: last week, my daughter watched Taxi Driver with me, and
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  Speaker 6: the next morning she wakes up and she's singing Roxanne
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  Speaker 6: all morning.
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  Speaker 14: Roxanne, you don't have to wear that dress tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Very fitting for prostitutes.
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  Speaker 6: And I don't know where that came from. She was
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  Speaker 6: singing that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's not in the movie, but the actions
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  Speaker 2: going on in the movie are.
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  Speaker 7: Of common theme.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't even know she knew that song, but she's
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  Speaker 6: going around the house all day.
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  Speaker 1: Roxanne.
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  Speaker 2: So can you turn that into Thundermuck? Thundermuck.
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  Speaker 6: You don't have to.
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  Speaker 2: Fill that cup tonight. Fill that cup tonight.
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  Speaker 6: I love you since I knew you. I wouldn't put
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  Speaker 6: creamer in. I don't know.
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  Speaker 11: What am I supposed to do?
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  Speaker 6: I'm just a cabbie, man. I don't know what the
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  Speaker 6: fuck you're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know music. I'd like to follow music.
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  Speaker 11: I'd like to. I just don't know.
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  Speaker 10: It must be good if you're interested in it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know much about coffee, but I'd like to
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  Speaker 2: learn more, I suppose. Alright, so with that, I think
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  Speaker 2: we've had a few run-ins lately with some crazy Geek
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  Speaker 2: Week fests, so I think we're going to shoot for
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  Speaker 2: that this week. Everybody still seems to like the crazy
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  Speaker 2: geek activity episodes, so I'm sticking with it. I think
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  Speaker 2: they're fun. To launch into that for our round of
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  Speaker 2: geek activities, I've seen a few. One just last night,
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  Speaker 2: I saw Carnage. Are you familiar with Carnage? Yes. Have
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  Speaker 2: you seen Carnage?
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  Speaker 1: No, I have not.
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  Speaker 2: I want to, though. What were your thoughts, Lucy?
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  Speaker 10: We'll hear you start, and I'll jump on in.
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  Speaker 2: If you like to see people argue, this is the
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  Speaker 2: movie for you. If you like middle-aged couples arguing a
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  Speaker 2: lot in weird ways.
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  Speaker 1: This is right up your alley.
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  Speaker 13: Or if you like to go to stage plays but
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  Speaker 13: don't like for there to be people in the.
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  Speaker 1: Room with you.
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  Speaker 2: Or if you like to pretend like you're in New
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  Speaker 2: York but you can't really come to America. This is
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  Speaker 2: the movie for you because it's directed by Roman Polanski.
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  Speaker 2: So this wonderful New York apartment isn't in New York.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably in France. So yeah, I'm not sure. I
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  Speaker 2: had a really mixed response like about 15, 20 minutes in.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, am I still supposed to be watching this?
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  Speaker 2: And then as it went on, I was like through
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  Speaker 2: moments where I'm like, okay, that was funny. So I mean, it's, it's, Like,
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  Speaker 2: it's funny, but it doesn't know how to be funny.
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  Speaker 2: At best, it's awkwardly funny sometimes.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's one of those things that's like a really
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  Speaker 10: good concept piece.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 13: I mean, it's effective in terms of it's supposed to
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  Speaker 13: feel claustrophobic and tedious and make you uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 2: It's tedious.
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  Speaker 10: But that's a terrible... I mean, I saw it in
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  Speaker 10: the theater, so I paid however many dollars. I mean,
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  Speaker 10: it was a very.
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  Speaker 13: I mean, I was not familiar with the stage play,
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  Speaker 13: but it seemed like a pretty faithful adaptation.
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  Speaker 2: As far as they didn't do anything else with it.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't leave that fucking apartment.
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  Speaker 10: But that's the point. I mean, it has to be that.
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  Speaker 13: So when I saw the trailer, I was on board,
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  Speaker 13: and the performances are great, and I like it when...
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  Speaker 13: kate winslet is supposed to be unlikable like i can
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  Speaker 13: wrap my head around that more than me going oh
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  Speaker 13: god i'm supposed to like her and she's so unlikable i.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know i didn't dislike her as much as and
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  Speaker 2: again going on about jodie foster i love jodie foster
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  Speaker 2: but she's not likable in this movie no nobody is
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  Speaker 2: it's a.
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  Speaker 10: Movie that makes you hate humanity kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of but midway in i'm like i don't know the
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  Speaker 2: guys get funnier the more that they just don't give
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  Speaker 2: a shit where the women just seem like more pissed
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  Speaker 2: off the whole time but it's not fun but like
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  Speaker 2: The fact that Christoph Waltz never cares. He gets funny.
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  Speaker 2: The phone is annoying, I'll agree, but that's the point
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  Speaker 2: of it. But, yeah, when he's not on the phone,
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  Speaker 2: and some of his delivery on those lines... The performances
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  Speaker 2: are all great. That's the thing. I can't knock it, really,
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  Speaker 2: other than it's not really fun. But performance-wise, it's nothing
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  Speaker 2: but top-notch. Four amazing performances, but... nobody's really overly likable
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  Speaker 2: and all they do is argue and i don't know
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  Speaker 2: it's a lot to deal with i have to say.
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  Speaker 10: Should we talk about the concepts with people that haven't
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  Speaker 10: i mean is everybody familiar with.
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  Speaker 15: It it's yeah it's kind of interesting in today's world somewhat.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah i've heard of it i haven't seen it yeah
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  Speaker 13: it's just two sets of parents that meet to talk
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  Speaker 13: about this situations happen between their sons.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, the bullying thing.
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  Speaker 13: And so they become increasingly infantile and then you see
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  Speaker 13: where all the behavior comes from. They start blaming each
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  Speaker 13: other and then blaming themselves and then it just turns
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  Speaker 13: into a disaster. So it's very much along the lines
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  Speaker 13: of misanthropic Mr.
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  Speaker 10: Polanski's worldview.
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  Speaker 15: Okay, I'm going to ask a question and the answer
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  Speaker 15: may be a deal breaker for me as far as
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  Speaker 15: wanting to see this movie. Are there annoying instances of
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  Speaker 15: dubbing so that they could Do the thing that Polanski
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  Speaker 15: did with Ghost Rider, where at first it was an R,
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  Speaker 15: but they had to replace all the fucks with salting
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  Speaker 15: and stuff like that. Is there any of that here?
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  Speaker 15: Because that was just... The dubbing in Ghost Rider was
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  Speaker 15: atrocious and made me hate it.
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  Speaker 2: It's R, isn't it? It's R? He went R this time?
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  Speaker 2: It seemed pretty R as I remember it. So I
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  Speaker 2: was going to say, if Polanski does that again, I can't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even think that was R.
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  Speaker 16: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: The performances are good. It's... Again, for somebody who's supposedly
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  Speaker 2: such a visually impressive director, it's not visually impressive at all.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty static, and it could have been... Granted, you're
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  Speaker 2: on one set, more or less, but it's still... He
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  Speaker 2: doesn't do anything with that camera. It could have been
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  Speaker 2: directed by a TV director. I mean, it was... No, he.
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  Speaker 10: Put this one in, and then he gets the.
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  Speaker 13: Comfort of saying, well, that's what it's supposed to be.
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  Speaker 1: You're supposed to feel.
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  Speaker 6: Like you're trapped in the scene and you can't move.
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  Speaker 6: Everything's the way it's supposed to be.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen them do stage plays turned into movies that
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  Speaker 2: are still pretty much on one set and yet they
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  Speaker 2: find it at least doesn't feel as monotonous as that
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  Speaker 2: one does.
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  Speaker 17: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I've never really been a big fan of Polanski.
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  Speaker 2: He's hit and miss.
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  Speaker 10: I like the earlier ones.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. He was at least visually more interesting back then,
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  Speaker 2: whereas now, even, I kind of remember, Ghost Rider wasn't bad,
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  Speaker 2: but again, there was only once or twice when I, okay,
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  Speaker 2: that was good, and the rest of the time I'm like, eh, whatever.
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  Speaker 13: I mean, I guess I hadn't thought about it, but
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  Speaker 13: it's really obvious that this was sort of a throwback
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  Speaker 13: to the earlier stuff, the trapped in the apartment stuff.
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  Speaker 2: His apartment series.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah. So, maybe he felt compelled, I don't know. It
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  Speaker 10: was just so helpful.
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  Speaker 13: I did have a fun theatrical experience, though, because apparently
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  Speaker 13: there's a really angry lady sitting in front of me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's always fun.
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  Speaker 13: And there's a line where they say something about how
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  Speaker 13: nobody tells you that kids suck.
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  Speaker 10: All of your energy and make you old and ruin
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  Speaker 10: your life.
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  Speaker 13: And she literally stood up and applauded.
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  Speaker 10: And so it was sort of more fun.
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  Speaker 18: To be with her.
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  Speaker 16: That's hilarious.
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  Speaker 6: And to know where she.
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  Speaker 10: Was and kind of where her head was.
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  Speaker 6: Man, you know, if I had seen the anniversary party
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  Speaker 6: in a theater... when, what's her name? Oh, what's that
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  Speaker 6: actress's name who married Kevin Kline?
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  Speaker 2: Phoebe Cates.
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  Speaker 6: When she says, when you have kids, you can't put
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  Speaker 6: your head in a nothing. They take away that option.
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  Speaker 2: I would have been on my feet.
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  Speaker 1: Man, That was so real.
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  Speaker 4: Nice.
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  Speaker 6: It was almost like she stepped out of character and
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  Speaker 6: was saying it through.
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  Speaker 2: The movie screen. Just to everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Breaking the fourth wall.
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  Speaker 6: It's like, I'm just supposed to be what?
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  Speaker 2: Basically me? I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I'm married to Kevin Kwan. I'm not acting.
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  Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck.
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  Speaker 6: Let me tell you something. When you have kids, you
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  Speaker 6: can't put your head in an oven anymore.
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  Speaker 2: You can't do yourself in.
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  Speaker 6: You need to know this going into it. Nobody tells you.
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  Speaker 2: She did kind of stop acting and be a mom
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  Speaker 2: for quite a while there, so that really probably was
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  Speaker 2: her line. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Again, they're sort of fun moments. John C. Reilly is
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  Speaker 2: an odd choice, I thought, too, but he kind of works.
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  Speaker 6: I was actually.
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  Speaker 13: Surprised by his participation, since he's avoided films before.
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  Speaker 10: There's a whole Lars von Trier thing where he's like,
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  Speaker 10: I'm not going to be in the movie where they
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  Speaker 10: kill the.
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  Speaker 13: Donkey, but I'll be in the Roman Polanski.
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  Speaker 2: Movie, so... Right. Interesting. He's got such a weird career
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  Speaker 2: anyway that he turns in these amazing serious performances and
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  Speaker 2: then he's doing Step Brothers.
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  Speaker 1: He's like Indy King and then he's what's his? Cal
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  Speaker 1: Naughton Jr.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 15: There was a time where I thought he was like, oh,
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  Speaker 15: this guy's kind of scary. I don't know if he's
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  Speaker 15: going to beat someone up in this next scene. He
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  Speaker 15: was in The Good Girl and he played that angry husband. And, like,
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  Speaker 15: Gangs of New York, he was, like, the really kind
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  Speaker 15: of corrupt, you know, mean cop. And, like, now I
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  Speaker 15: just can't, like, I'm thinking Dewey Cox, Steve Ruhle.
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  Speaker 2: Like, dude, you're just a goofball. I can't take you seriously. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I ever will again. That's a
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  Speaker 2: hard road, you know, trying to be an actor that
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  Speaker 2: does both of those extremes. It's really weird.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: When you were on the Oscars, he did a song
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  Speaker 6: about that, didn't he?
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the song from the Dewey Cox movie. It's, like,
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  Speaker 1: Hard Road or something like that, isn't there?
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  Speaker 6: Well, it was a song about how he did Boogie
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  Speaker 6: Nights and Legend of Ricky Bobby. Oh, no, yeah, it
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  Speaker 6: begins with Will Ferrell singing about how Oscar night is
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  Speaker 6: a sad night for the comedy man.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's true.
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  Speaker 6: Because you never get the Oscar for comedy. And then
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  Speaker 6: John C. Reilly steps in and sings this duet about
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  Speaker 6: how you can play both sides together You can do, like,
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  Speaker 6: when they come up with the most obvious Oscar-pleading movies,
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  Speaker 6: like about, I don't know, the My Left Foot, kind of.
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  Speaker 6: You have to give it an Oscar or you're in trouble.
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  Speaker 11: It was a good song.
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  Speaker 6: If you didn't see that, you should look it up,
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  Speaker 6: because it had some insight into Oscar night.
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  Speaker 2: And the fact that you're screwed if you're a comedian.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah. Pretty much.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty much. Well, I've definitely got one more that I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to throw in there, and there's a few more,
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  Speaker 2: so I can come back around if we run out
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  Speaker 2: midway in. But the other one I definitely wanted to hit,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen this, 2012 Zombie Apocalypse.
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  Speaker 6: Nope.
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  Speaker 2: Can't say I have.
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  Speaker 11: Well, it just showed up on the feed.
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  Speaker 2: Right. And, you know, Walking Dead's over now, so I
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  Speaker 2: gotta fill the zombie void with something. So I'm like, alright,
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  Speaker 2: we'll see what the hell this is. Especially when I
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  Speaker 2: saw one of the cast members. We'll get to him
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  Speaker 2: in a minute. But to put it in perspective, this
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  Speaker 2: is an asylum-made movie. If you're not familiar with them,
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  Speaker 2: they're the people that brought us Paranormal Entity, Transmorphers, Fall
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  Speaker 2: of Man, as well as impressive films like Megashark vs.
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  Speaker 2: Giant Octopus, And Titanic 2. Yeah.
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  Speaker 18: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, okay, this is what we're dealing with. But still,
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  Speaker 2: they're trying to make a sort of, you know, imagine
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  Speaker 2: this post-apocalyptic world and it's relatively serious and you're dealing
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  Speaker 2: with life and death situations. And I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: the rest of you will. Greg, you'll definitely get this. Now,
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: imagine right in the middle of it, Crabman. Oh, yeah.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: Eddie Steeples is in this, who would be Darnell from
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: My Name is Earl. Yeah. With the hair. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I love that guy. He is so great in My
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: Name is Earl, and now he's on Raising Hope. And
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  Speaker 2: he's hilarious, and he's a good actor, but I can't
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  Speaker 2: take him serious. It's much like the Dewey Cox story.
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  Speaker 2: I can't watch this guy in serious stuff. Maybe I just,
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  Speaker 2: he's been in other stuff before, but maybe I've just
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  Speaker 2: never seen him before My Name is Earl. But now, like,
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  Speaker 2: trying to watch him, like, shoot zombies it's just so
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  Speaker 2: laughable but the one that really puzzled me is i'm
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  Speaker 2: looking through the list and it's got ving rames in
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  Speaker 2: it what the hell is going on with his career
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  Speaker 2: that he's i mean i can understand you know the
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  Speaker 2: tv actor you know my name is canceled he's just
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  Speaker 2: looking for a job but ving rames at one point
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  Speaker 2: was making some pretty impressive movies And why is he
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  Speaker 2: obsessed with zombie movies? This is like his third one
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  Speaker 2: that I could think of offhand. Yeah, he's in both
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  Speaker 2: of the others. He's in the Dawn of the Dead remake,
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  Speaker 2: which is awesome. He's in Day of the Dead as
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  Speaker 2: a different character, which is terrible, by the way. And
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  Speaker 2: now he's in this one, which is also terrible. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: where to begin with this thing?
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  Speaker 1: Just wants a check.
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  Speaker 2: But I would think Sci-Fi Channel isn't going to write
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  Speaker 2: a very big check, because I'm thinking this is where,
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  Speaker 2: I think they're tied in with you know, running these
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  Speaker 2: kind of movies. So, yeah, the cartoon blood is so bad.
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  Speaker 2: What is that? Is that like the CGI blood that's
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  Speaker 2: trending now? Oh, that's so bad. I mean, CGI blood's
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  Speaker 2: bad anyway, but now you take all of the money
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  Speaker 2: out of the already bad CGI blood, and it really
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  Speaker 2: is like them with a Sharpie on the screen. With
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  Speaker 2: a Sharpie, yeah. So, yeah, you already get that. The
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  Speaker 2: acting's pretty bad anyway. Um, also just the characters themselves.
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  Speaker 2: I like, it's almost like it is straight out of
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: like a, a, like they took the character sketches that
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: they made. And like, it's so like car, like Saturday
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: morning cartoon characters, because each person has their own special weapon.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Like nobody has the same thing. Nobody's gotten up like nothing.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Like everybody has a blunt instrument or something of that sort.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Like the, the Darnell's got a hockey stick and like,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Vinger Ames has a sledgehammer. So it's essentially Ninja Turtles design. Yeah,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: it is. Because each one, it's not like two people
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: have a baseball bat. No, they each get, you get
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: a hockey stick, you get a baseball bat, you get
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: a ninja sword, which that chick is pretty good with
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: a ninja sword, I'll give her that. But yeah, the
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: fact that it's all perfectly, every character has their own
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: little thing. One dude is wearing football shoulder pads. I
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: don't really know why. The whole movie, he's running around
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: with the, like, I guess they're constantly trying to bite
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: your shoulder? I don't know.
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: He's wearing shoulder pads the entire.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Can't be too careful. I guess. I think he's wearing, like,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: shin guards, too. I don't know. He just, like, hit
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: the sporting goods store and stocked up. I don't know.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: They also make several references, like, cheesy, lame references to
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: other movie, like, horror movies. So they're, like, at one point,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: they're sitting there very hand-fistedly delivering this dialogue.
• 17:58
  Speaker 10: Of, remember that one guy, you know, what was his name? Kirkman.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, like Robert Kirkman, the writer of The Walking Dead?
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Thank you for an inside joke there. A very badly
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: delivered inside joke. And then, like, one of them got
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: his gun at S-Mart.
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: Really?
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Did you?
• 18:17
  Speaker 18: Yeah.
• 18:18
  Speaker 10: Wow.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Where's the receipt for that? I don't know. And yet
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: there was part of me that was gladly continuing on
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: this little, it's bad, but it's so bad I had
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: to see it through in my usual glutton for punishment fashion.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I have to see where they go with this thing.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: What breed of zombies do they use in this movie?
• 18:41
  Speaker 12: Is it the.
• 18:42
  Speaker 15: Walking dead, slow, you know?
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Moaning kind of zombies, or the sprinting?
• 18:48
  Speaker 15: Because Bing Rames is in it, and I know he's
• 18:50
  Speaker 15: pretty awesome at fighting the sprinters, who I've seen in
• 18:53
  Speaker 15: Dawn of the Dead.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: But it'd be interesting to see how he fins off
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: against these, you know. Does bad acting count as a
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: style zombie? Is there a third option that is people
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: that are not that good at being zombies? Because some
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: of these I'm just looking at going, oh, that's terrible.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: All you have to be is undead, and you're doing
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: it wrong. Yeah, it's... man it's rough uh i guess
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: closer to romero slow zombies but again they're just i'm
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: not buying any.
• 19:23
  Speaker 19: Of them it's so bad i feel like we need
• 19:25
  Speaker 19: to take a cue like zombie movies need to have
• 19:28
  Speaker 19: like a that one kind of it was a popular
• 19:31
  Speaker 19: thing in the 80s where they had the the one
• 19:34
  Speaker 19: leader zombie that was kind of funny like in return
• 19:37
  Speaker 19: living dead like and it kind of talks he's like
• 19:39
  Speaker 19: super smart and And it just doesn't take itself seriously.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Tarman. We need to go back to that. The Tarman, exactly.
• 19:45
  Speaker 15: We didn't have a tarman wandering around and like, you know,
• 19:47
  Speaker 15: kind of cut to him every now and then see
• 19:49
  Speaker 15: what he's up to.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I would like to see a, um, a zombie movie
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: and they may have already made one.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Cause there's a million.
• 19:56
  Speaker 13: Oh yeah.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: A hundred every week. But I'd like to see one
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: where every character is, or the zombie fighting group is, um,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: zombie movie geeks and so they know everything that should
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: be happening right and what weapon no we have to
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: have this weapon we can't do this we can't go
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: here you know.
• 20:15
  Speaker 15: Isn't that and they totally fail like they yeah not
• 20:19
  Speaker 15: i mean i'm talking almost you know uh they're just
• 20:22
  Speaker 15: a little more self-aware i guess and sean of.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: The day yeah not self-aware but they that they truly
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: know they follow the rules oh you know these zombies
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: are going to evolve and if this happening this has
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: to happen you know so So that they're almost telling
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the movie along with it. I think something like that
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: would be fun.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: That's one of the main issues I have. There are
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: several things that they sort of allude to that's going
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: on in this big zombie movement. And you're like, okay,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: they brought it up. I guess they're going somewhere.
• 20:51
  Speaker 16: No.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: There's at least two different things that happen and I'm
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: just like, okay, I guess this is going to come
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: into play later that they're really doing something with this
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: idea or why are they bringing it up?
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: No.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, I don't understand. Why bring this shit
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: up if you're not going to follow through on it? So, yeah,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: I guess I won't ruin it for you. The twist
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: that they're all undead Mayans. No, but I'll just say this.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I won't tell you the specifics, but zombie animals. Granted,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: we've kind of seen a little of that in Resident Evil,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: but no, this one takes it up a notch by
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: the big finale, so I won't ruin it for you.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I don't want to blow your free viewing of this,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: assuming you have this same service that I have.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: Okay, well, if I guess it, though, wordlessly, like, it's
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: zombie Easter Bunny, right?
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: That's got to be in one, hasn't it? It's not
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: this one, but it's probably in one of those movies
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: It has to be. It just cries out.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. to exist it's it's equally as ridiculous if that
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: helps so yeah it's it's it was quite a.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: Time okay i've got it it's a possum and it's
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: just plain undead.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: That that should have been in the movie it was
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: right up that blunt yeah it's right up that alley
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: there they're welcome to it i'm.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: They should do not another zombie movie. That might be funny.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, at this point, they've made enough. They can make
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: one of those stupid movies.
• 22:32
  Speaker 18: I guess so.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: They can do that.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: That's at least the main ridiculous ones I was going
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: to get into. If you guys have stuff, let's go
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: with it. I watched.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I like Bigfoot movies. we're getting to those by the
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: way great and one of my favorite movies from childhood
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: was Harry and the Hendersons but I watched it's not
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: your typical Bigfoot movie is what it's called and it's
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: not it's a documentary about some gentlemen in Ohio that
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: are Bigfoot hunters and they're probably in their 60's They
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: have hundreds, probably thousands of photos that are supposed to
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: be Bigfoot. And there are shadows. They're not even clothed.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: They're not even guys dressed up. It's just like they'll
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: take a picture and there's some dark spots in the background.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: And they're like, there's eight of them in this picture
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: right here. Two of them are sitting down.
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: What's this in this part of the picture? That's your
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: thumb over the lens, buddy.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: And they'll go out into the woods. I guess it's
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: the Wayne National Forest. And they'll just start taking pictures
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: and hollering at the whatever, just yelling like they're mating
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: calls or something. Bigfoot mating calls?
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: And they go to a, down in the Smokies, they
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: go to a Bigfoot hunters convention.
• 24:10
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Like we've all been to. Right.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: And it's... I really felt like I wanted to give
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: these guys a hug because they've devoted their lives to it.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Their houses are leaking. The one guy has to go
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: and bottle up water from his mom's house because he
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: can't pay his water bill. And they're just... And the
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: one fellow, which is kind of the sidekick, and he
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: really goes... He breaks down several times during the interview process.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: He is... extremely suicidal and i question whether he's even
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: still alive and.
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: I i almost there are only so many points on
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: that scale right that you can right day no.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Like he's tried to kill himself yeah and he it's
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: um it's just it's just sad because they believe so
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: much or at least one of them believes the other
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: one just is trying to find something to hold on
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: to you know something in his life it's and And
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the more I watched it, the more I was just
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: depressed by... And a big-time Bigfoot hunter comes along and
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: is going to come and visit them and go with them.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: And it's just making fun of them. And then they
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: think that there might be something there, actually, so they
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: stop calling these guys and go.
• 25:34
  Speaker 18: Out on their own.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: And it's just... And then they kind of put them
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: up to, put the one up, the sidekick up to
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: going on to an internet radio show where they almost
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: set him up to disprove himself. They tell him, you know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: when to say that they took this picture, which was
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: out of time from when it happened, which was after
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: a friend of theirs died. You know, all these that
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: supposedly saw the picture and So they lose any credibility
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: that they already had.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: These are just Bigfoot hunter bullies. What the hell is that?
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I don't want to hate. Really? Just let them look
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: for Bigfoot.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I almost got in the car and drove to them
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: just to give them a hug. That's how bad I
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: felt for them.
• 26:21
  Speaker 10: So what was the tone of the film itself? Was
• 26:23
  Speaker 10: it respectful of them?
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I think the filmmaker, because he visited them several years
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: before and filmed them. and I think he cares about them,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: but at the same time, if he kind of almost,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: and it's almost like if he shows this, because they
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: don't tell each other the truth about what they're feeling.
• 26:48
  Speaker 10: This is like an intervention.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: So it's almost, if they both watched this, they'd both go, oh,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: you know, this is how bad it is, and we
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: need to talk to each other, and we need to
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: see where this is going. And it's almost like he
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: was saying, I'm going to through a movie, give these
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: guys a hug, you know, it, it, it was, um,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: and I think it was sweet in the way that
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: he did it. And I think he, he stayed removed
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: as a documentarian and just filmed what was happening and just, okay,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: show us, show us. Uh, but at the same time
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: in the process, I think in the way he edited
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: it can show the, you know, you need to stop
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: doing this and start taking care of each other. And
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: that's really the, the end of the movie. Um, And
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: so it turns out completely, I wanted to go into
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: it either, I'm going to see something and it's going
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: to be, you know, kind of, ooh, bigfoot kind of thing.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Or it's going to be funny that we're going to
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: be making fun of it. And no, it's neither. And
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: you really, it's really well done for as, I don't
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: want to say poorly done, but it's just kind of,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: we're going to film everything.
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: Primitive is the respectful way to say it.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: We're going to put everything on film that we'd shoot.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: And it's realistic, I suppose. I was sad, but happy
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: that he had done it, I suppose.
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: But no Bigfoot hunters were harmed in the making of
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: the film.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Their egos were probably harmed.
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Well, we're definitely, and you better than any remember the
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot series we started. We did a couple of them
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: quite a while ago. And I've been saying for a
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: while we need to get back on those. And now
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I've come in contact with several people who are like
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: really hardcore Bigfoot fans. So Dave, who's been on the
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: show now, is really into Bigfoot. And oddly enough, another Ben,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: who you know, Greg, is hardcore. So I was talking
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: to him about doing a little crossover there and having
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: him sit on a Bigfoot episode. So just to, you know,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: give you guys a heads up, we're definitely bringing back
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: the Bigfoot series. It's never really left. It's just been
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: on hiatus.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the subject matter of Bigfoot is about that,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: you know, trying to find the frontier or trying to find,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: just like space exploration or anything like that. It's part science,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: part myth, part craziness. And some people are more crazy
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: than others. That's why I think it's fascinating. Yeah.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of levels to it.
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: Something about almost as rare as a Bigfoot sighting is
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: seeing something rare. funny and interesting on the late show
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: with Jay Leno, the Tonight Show.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I did see one thing.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: Once, and it was what the video, the Bigfoot video,
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: somebody on his staff compared it to a video of
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: George W. Bush walking across the front of the White House,
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: and they were just about identical.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: It was amazing.
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: And I thought, what kind of geekstrosity is this that
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: they would even think to make the connection, but they
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: played the one video and the other, and it was
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: just eerie. It was the same body language.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if I'm buying this. I think
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: it's a myth that there's any comedy on The Tonight
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Show now. Johnny, yes. Jay, no.
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry. Well, we'll go out into the wilds of
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: YouTube sometime and see if we can find that.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: That's a scary place, by the way.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: The other thing which turns out to be a documentary
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: that I watched this week was the Becoming Elmo documentary.
• 30:51
  Speaker 18: Oh, God.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Kevin Clash.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I've heard that could be interesting, but I just can't
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: stand Elmo. I can't take it. Even for documentary purposes,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I could not get through it. I'm sorry.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: There is so little Elmo in the movie.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: I'll take that into consideration.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: It's only in the last maybe 15 minutes that you
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: even get Elmo. It's everything about Jim Henson and Frank Oz.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I'm interested that he was really that close to Jim Henson.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Kermit, what's his name?
• 31:20
  Speaker 10: The.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: The frog? No, the actual designer of Jim Henson's puppets.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I can't remember his name. Anyway, he is the one that,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: as a master puppeteer, found Kevin and kind of took
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: him under his wing and just, come in, I'm going
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: to show you everything. As a 12-year-old kid, I think, just,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I'm going to show you everything. And it really is about.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: How....
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: All the people along the way that it takes for
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: someone to get somewhere. Like Captain Kangaroo was kind of
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: a mentor. And, you know, that he had the option
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: to work on the Dark Crystal, but he stayed with
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Captain Kangaroo, which was tanking, but he stayed with him anyway.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Got to work on Labyrinth. And just all of these
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: people that touched him and showed him and everything that
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: he learned and then now... Being able to see him,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: he brings in kids that are wanting to be puppeteers.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: And he shows them everything. Anything that he can teach them,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: he shows them. And it really was that if somebody's
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: got a dream or something that they want to do,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: how you can... Well, for instance, his father, and I
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be telling you all this because you probably want
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: to watch the documentary, but his As a kid, his father,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of money, and he goes
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: in and he watched Sesame Street and Captain Kangaroo and
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: all these things, and he sees his father's coat and
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the fur on it and everything, and he just cuts
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: it up and makes his first puppet out of it.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: And he knows that he's going to get in trouble,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: and he left it in his parents' room like, hey.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: This is it.
• 33:11
  Speaker 10: A compulsive puppet maker.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: His parents come in and see it, and he knows
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: that he's going to get in big trouble. We can't
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: afford this. And his parents just love it and encourage him.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: And his father says the only thing that he said
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: was ask next time. And that's so important. Like as
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: a parent, like you can't you never know when the
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: one thing that you're going to say. that might stop
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: your kid from doing the thing they want to do.
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's funny. I never say anything.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Ah, parenting. Let them do anything. Yeah. What he should
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: have said is, when you make millions of dollars, you
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: owe me.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Earn this. But yeah, it was, and how, I guess,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: if you have a talent or you have something that
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: you're good at, you really owe it to the next
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: generation to show them how to do it. And it
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: was neat to see how all of those interactions came about.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: It was a good, for somebody that I can't hardly stand.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I know. I'm so interested in the story of the guy,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: I just wish it was any other character. Cookie Monster,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I'm on board with. The Count, that guy's cool.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: But once you see his ability, because he really is
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: extremely talented.
• 34:34
  Speaker 12: I suppose.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Once you see his ability, it kind of endears you
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: towards the character, too.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Now I really don't want to watch it. No, no.
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: I meant to see that, but I got a different movie.
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: It was called Being Elmo, and it was about they
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: found this doorway, and they go inside Elmo's head.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: Elmo gets really pissed about it. He's like, it's my head!
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: It was produced by Michael Stein.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: But going back to The Tonight Show, did anybody else
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: see when Kermit would host The Tonight Show?
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Still had to be better than Jay.
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: Oh, yes, man! I was so rooting for him to
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: get it.
• 35:22
  Speaker 16: He was amazing!
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: He's a great host. He always was. He really was.
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: And people would come out, and they seemed so much
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: cooler than all the other guests who weren't talking to
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: a green sock.
• 35:35
  Speaker 13: Right.
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: Because they were talking about their careers and their projects
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: to Kermit.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: It was beautiful.
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: Man, I would watch that show if they would do that.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: And he at least put in the time as a reporter, too,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: to earn his way.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: He's a journalist.
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: He did a monologue.
• 35:52
  Speaker 13: He's a journalist.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: He's an all-around entertainer, that Kermit.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I love the new Muppet movie. I don't know if
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: anybody's seen it.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's great.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I love it now.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: It's great.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, I loved the Muppet movie as a kid,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: and I didn't want it to come out and suck.
• 36:09
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: And this was fantastic.
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: I've got it at home. I haven't seen it yet.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I can't believe they haven't tried to bring the show back.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Because they have before, but now that they're a hit again,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: you'd think instead of just working on another sequel... they
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: could get a major deal with a network now and
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: actually have a weekly show and guest stars again and
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: bring it back to... Because that's still one of the
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: best shows ever. As a variety show goes, it was
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: so amazing. Yeah, for me, I really would put it
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: up there with SNL. Yeah, and great guests and weird
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: performances that you would not see anywhere else.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: It was a family event at our house. You had
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: to have everything out of the way in time to watch...
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Love the show.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: And I even like the late 90s, they tried to
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: bring it back. And I like that one. They had
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: a different host, but Kermit was there, and the new
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: characters were likable, and it worked. It just didn't get
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: a shot. Like, six episodes, I'm thinking it was gone.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: So I think there's still talent in that studio that
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: could put it together again and make another good weekly show.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: I wish they would do that.
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: They could all come out of retirement for one last score.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Now that would be the good movie.
• 37:21
  Speaker 18: Yeah.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: A Muppets film noir.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: A new great Muppet caper. That's what we need. Was
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: that it for you? All right. We'll take a break
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: here and be back with the rest of the geek activity.
• 37:35
  Speaker 10: So now let's get it started. Why don't we get
• 37:39
  Speaker 10: it started?
• 37:40
  Speaker 14: It's time to get things started on the most sensational.
• 37:44
  Speaker 10: Inspirational, celebrational, muppetational.
• 37:48
  Speaker 9: This is what we call the Muppet Show.
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: What is it?
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: Hey, why did butter come?
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: Popcorn adds sweet butter to hot popcorn.
• 38:07
  Speaker 10: Mix it up, wrap it up, buttercup is born.
• 38:10
  Speaker 12: It's delicious.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: So nutritious. It's a tasty bite.
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: It's so much easier.
• 38:14
  Speaker 16: Crisp and crunchy.
• 38:15
  Speaker 10: You'll enjoy each bite.
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: Eat buttercrimps, buttercup, popcorn.
• 38:19
  Speaker 16: At its best.
• 38:20
  Speaker 18: Served in a king-size cup.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Eat!
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: The Astro Zombies, subhuman electronic transplants that mutilate, torture, and
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: kill in an orgy of blood-splattering horror beyond your imagination.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: Their creed was to kill, kill, kill. Watch as a
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: deranged scientist transfers beating hearts and throbbing brains from living
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: bodies to create The Astro Zombies. Horror, suspense, and chills
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: tear at your senses as Wendell Corey and John Carradine
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: match wits in the blood-drenched color film The Astro Zombies.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: Coming soon to your local theater. Watch it and die
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: a thousand deaths.
• 38:57
  Speaker 18: Coming May 26th and 27th, Wonderfest. In this, their 22nd year,
• 39:04
  Speaker 18: Wonderfest is still the annual expo for model and toy collectors,
• 39:08
  Speaker 18: with a huge display and competition for plastic kits and
• 39:12
  Speaker 18: garage kits. This year, in addition to all the events,
• 39:14
  Speaker 18: they are also welcoming actress Joanna Cassidy from Blade Runner
• 39:18
  Speaker 18: and Who Framed Roger Rabbit, as well as Bill Moseley,
• 39:21
  Speaker 18: Julie Adams from Creature in the Black Lagoon, and designer
• 39:24
  Speaker 18: and illustrator Eric Chu, who redesigned the Cylons, Raiders, Vipers,
• 39:28
  Speaker 18: and much of the universe for Battlestar Galactica. Plus lots
• 39:31
  Speaker 18: of other guesting activities, so go to wonderfest.com and check
• 39:35
  Speaker 18: it out yourself.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: Welcome to a night of total terror.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: That's Mickey Mouse's penis.
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: I know, isn't it?
• 39:49
  Speaker 11: They don't look to be afraid.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: They look to be shocked.
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: Here's vagina. Did you see Miley Cyrus' globulous breasts?
• 39:58
  Speaker 8: Night of the living podcast.
• 40:01
  Speaker 10: I found more syrup on my pants.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Bizarre adventure in fear.
• 40:06
  Speaker 11: There was, however, a guy using.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: An experience in shock.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: More shattering than your strangest nightmare.
• 40:14
  Speaker 9: Penetration.
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: Night of the Living Podcast.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Ass to mouth is fantastic.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Holy shit, that just happened. What's that bad man doing
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: to my donkey?
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: A night of total terror.
• 40:31
  Speaker 10: I can't maintain this level of ridiculousness.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: They made a song.
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: Night.
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• 41:24
  Speaker 6: We've all got quirks.
• 41:25
  Speaker 10: I've got them.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: You've got them, Dave.
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: That's what makes this character so, so compelling.
• 41:30
  Speaker 8: Thumbs up from me.
• 41:31
  Speaker 10: Same here.
• 41:36
  Speaker 9: This is Dean Cameron, also known as Chainsaw, and you're
• 41:38
  Speaker 9: listening to Movie Meltdown.
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: Music I'm Chainsaw.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: I'm Dave. We'll see you at the movies.
• 41:58
  Speaker 8: It's part of your problem, you know.
• 41:59
  Speaker 12: You haven't seen enough movies. All of life's riddles are answered.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: In the movies.
• 42:05
  Speaker 16: And now, on with the show.
• 42:06
  Speaker 9: The End.
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: You don't have to put on that red light Walk
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: the streets for money You don't care if it's wrong
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: or if.
• 42:26
  Speaker 9: It is right Wrong sign.
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: You don't have to wear that dress tonight.
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: I saw some stuff.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I thought you couldn't remember what you saw.
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: Well, it's not a big week. I mean, I did
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: get around a scene. See, I don't see anything when
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: it comes out. I still haven't seen Hunger Games.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about it. I don't know. I want
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: to see it.
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: Do you want to talk about that? No, I don't
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: want to talk about it.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Do you need to talk?
• 43:09
  Speaker 20: I talked about it after the film.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I can readjust the microphone if you want to lay
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: down for this and really get into some sort of
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: therapeutical situation.
• 43:18
  Speaker 10: We won't get into that now. Once somebody else has
• 43:21
  Speaker 10: seen it. Once Beau sees it, I'll fight with him
• 43:23
  Speaker 10: about it.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: I've seen it. Speaking of Beau and you fighting, I
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: saw War Horse.
• 43:28
  Speaker 10: Uh-oh.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I wish you were here right now.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 43:32
  Speaker 10: Because I've already.
• 43:33
  Speaker 11: Got Alan on my team.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Tell her you loved it.
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: That would be the interesting choice. No, I didn't love it,
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: but I liked it in the beginning. I was rooting
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: for it. In the very beginning, I was like, this
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: makes sense to me. It's not about war. It's not
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: about a horse. It's about drinking. It's about drinking. It's
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: about the dad.
• 43:56
  Speaker 11: He's this crazy drunk. That's what it's set up to be.
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: And in a way, it kind of is, but it's just,
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: it doesn't really work out. But I was so rooting
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: for it because I understand this. Okay, the crazy dad,
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: he's the war horse because he's been through the war
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: and his mom says, we can't understand, you know, when
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: he does things that are crazy. And the kid goes, well,
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: he doesn't talk about it. And he's like, well, there
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: aren't words. We don't know what he's been through. He's
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: messed up. And he, and, uh, and yeah, and I'm
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: looking for, okay. And then she's like, so here's a
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: horse and we follow this horse.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: And it's like, it's.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: Going to show us in a way, those things that,
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: you know, make you a broken, not a broken drunk.
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: He's not quite defeated, but his spirit is, of his father,
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: he's going to come to understand it. And then it, well,
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: it becomes there's something about Joey. Everywhere this horse goes,
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: everybody falls in love with this horse. It does, and
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: it becomes unintentionally comedic, I think. And I can picture
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: it working better as a stage thing with a puppet,
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: because then it's clear We're trying to do something poetic
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: about a spirit, but this is so illustrational.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too literal.
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's like the captain's drawings of the horse.
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: It's like, why does this military captain draw like a
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: 14-year-old girl?
• 45:42
  Speaker 11: That's what's wrong with this movie.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Does he then take him and put him in his
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: lease of Frank Trapper? Yeah, exactly.
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: It's like I expect him to start putting little glitter
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: stickers on it.
• 45:53
  Speaker 10: Come on, those are cool.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Those are cool. We all know that.
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: There's something just seriously wrong with the style of the movie.
• 46:01
  Speaker 11: The story interested me for a while. The way they
• 46:05
  Speaker 11: set it up.
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: Why are we watching a movie about a horse? Because
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: the dad's a crazy drunk and there are people that
• 46:12
  Speaker 6: are like that and it might be interesting to see.
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: But no, it didn't work for me, but I kind
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: of thought it was interesting. And then they get into
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: that thing with the barbed wire and it's like they're
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: trying to illustrate Picasso's Guernica. But just get the cubism
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: out of it and just fuck everything up about it.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Pesky cubism.
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: But still illustrate it. It's like they're trying to do.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: It's.
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: Almost like a joke quote of Guernica, but they don't
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: mean it as a joke.
• 46:49
  Speaker 11: They're serious.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: That's the thing with Spielberg. He's so earnest that it's
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: hard for him to do something like that. He approaches
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: everything so... wholeheartedly that again you're just going to get
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: a big sappy movie about a horse and that's not
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: what the way that it sounds like it's intended to
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: be you know it's yeah i don't know it's such
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: a weird idea for him to try to do such
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: a real version of this type of.
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: Story yeah the funnest thing in the movie for me
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: is like placing the various actors there's Who is that guy?
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: What is that face? Where do I know him from?
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Where do I know that horse from?
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: I've seen that horse somewhere before. Yeah.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, yes.
• 47:33
  Speaker 13: It was in that other completely impossible movie.
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I saw that. And I saw because,
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: you know, I'm not a big fan anymore. I love
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: Boogie Nights. I just, I love that movie so much.
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: It's pretty awesome. I couldn't follow that guy after. I
• 47:51
  Speaker 6: couldn't follow, like, there will be blood.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Even there will be blood? Yeah. I love that movie.
• 47:58
  Speaker 6: That's too much time to wait for too little blood.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: By the time the blood arrives, we will promise blood.
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: It's just so ponderous and heavy. And then Magnolia. And
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: I've heard people say, like, brilliant, insightful things about it.
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, Yeah, I can see that.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: That's the one I have a problem with.
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: I can see that, but I just, I don't feel it.
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: What I feel is this soundtrack telling me something serious
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: is going on here. And then flies fall out of
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: the sky, and I just don't care. And people have
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: talked to me, it's like, well, it's about forgiveness, and
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: this one character can't forgive themselves, and he's Yeah, okay.
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: That's good.
• 48:41
  Speaker 11: You know, my neighbors have issues, too.
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: But it doesn't make for a satisfying film experience for
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: me to look through their fucking windows.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: What, Mike? Just get a camera and start filming.
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: But then, I think one of our geek crew said, well,
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: did you see Punch Drunk Love? No, I haven't seen that.
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: And I watched that movie, and I loved it.
• 49:04
  Speaker 11: I really like it.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Thank God, because... I think just the camera work alone
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: in that movie is worth watching.
• 49:10
  Speaker 13: See, I think the same thing, but just the camera
• 49:13
  Speaker 13: Not just the camera.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Just the camera.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Well, the next Guzman is fantastic.
• 49:18
  Speaker 10: I think it's so... I think it's such a great
• 49:21
  Speaker 10: film to look at. It's just like, it maybe made.
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: An effort with the story that I could have fallen
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: in love. Well, the story, it has some of that slowness,
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: that problematic... I don't know. But I do love the
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: scene where he and... what's her name, are walking to
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: the room and they're going to have sex and they
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: kind of know. And it's just so sexy. They're just
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: so awkward.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Because of how awkward it is?
• 49:52
  Speaker 11: It's awkward, but not excruciating awkward.
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: It's just, it's really nicely done. And it has that
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: blue color in it that your eye just follows it
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: in every scene when he's in the supermarket. They have
• 50:06
  Speaker 6: that blue tone. There's something really nice about it. So
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: then Brian mentioned to me Heart 8, speaking of John C.
• 50:16
  Speaker 7: Reilly.
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: So I'm having to go backwards in this guy's career
• 50:20
  Speaker 6: to find what I'm looking for.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: That's what I was saying, because you didn't like the
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: newer stuff.
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: No, I do not like the newer stuff.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: The older one that I remember was not all that
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: ponderous and weird. It was just sort of a more
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: straightforward story. It's been a long time since I've seen it.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: Was I making that up?
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: No, it was really good.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's how I remembered it.
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: John C. Reilly is great, and What's-Her-Name is really good
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: in it.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Gwyneth, wasn't she in that? Gwyneth. Yeah, who everybody hates now, but... Yeah, her.
• 50:47
  Speaker 6: Oh, she was so believable as just being messed up
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: in the arguments they have. It has that kind of thing,
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: like how could... Like the dinner scene we were talking
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: about recently in Kill List. How does somebody create something
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: so believable?
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Don't listen to the show.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Do not listen to the show until after you see it.
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a great thing to say. But yeah, the conversations,
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: and when they get into deep trouble and they're too
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: stupid to figure their way out of it, it's beautiful.
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: It's just my kind of thing. And what Philip Seymour
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: Hoffman always says.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Isn't he in Punch Drunk Love?
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Isn't he just crazy? Yes.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: I think I would hate him.
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: That guy.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: As a person. He's such a.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Dick in that movie.
• 51:43
  Speaker 13: When I was living in Los Angeles, I had a
• 51:46
  Speaker 13: friend that went to the same coffee shop that he did,
• 51:48
  Speaker 13: and apparently he would sit at the head of this
• 51:50
  Speaker 13: coffee table with all of these young acolytes, and they
• 51:55
  Speaker 13: would just gaze at him.
• 51:56
  Speaker 10: Adoringly, and he would dispense words of wisdom.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: He always brings that intensity and a lot of times
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: it's interesting to me his line readings if.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I was directing.
• 52:04
  Speaker 19: Something they just sound wrong but.
• 52:06
  Speaker 10: They work they sound wrong like some of his great
• 52:08
  Speaker 10: line readings are.
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: When he's badgering the old gambler guy at the craps table.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: That guy's awesome. The lead guy. What's his name? Philip
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Baker Hall. Yeah. That guy.
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: I can't imagine anybody else being him in that movie.
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: He just... It wouldn't... I can't picture it working.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Philip Seymour Hoffman, if we ever run into
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: him and he gets a little too full of himself,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: I can put him in his place. Yeah. all I
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: have to say is, my boyfriend's back. Okay? Shut up.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Shut up. You're in my boyfriend's back. How long came Pauly? Well,
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: but that's when he was successful. But yeah, he's a dorky,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: he's one of the jackass friends that's picking on the
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: main character with his baseball cap backwards. No, no, no.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Don't get all heady with me, buddy. You're in my
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: boyfriend's back.
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: What was the line reading in Boogie Nights that always
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: sounded wrong? It was like, When he's trying to make
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: friends with Marky Mark, he's like, oh.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: You work on the movies? I work on the movies.
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: So, you know, if you ever, you know.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Foreshadowing of Truman Capote there.
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, and he was in storytelling. Yeah. Did you see?
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: No.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: He's a good actor. But I could see in the
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: real world he would probably not be a fun person
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: to hang out with. I could be mistaken. I don't know.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: I haven't hung out at that coffee shop, obviously. We
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: can try to do an episode there.
• 54:05
  Speaker 11: If he would come here.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: We've got a coffee shop for him. Come on. Get
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: over here. I won't bring that up.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I'll be busy that episode.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: No. Come on. I'd give him a shot. I won't
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: bring that movie up right off the bat. Eventually I
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: probably would, but you.
• 54:23
  Speaker 9: Don't want to know.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: That's the sofa theater episode.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Tell us about my boyfriend's back.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: You've got it on a four by six card.
• 54:36
  Speaker 13: I think you're underestimating him because I'm pretty sure he
• 54:39
  Speaker 13: could be smug about that.
• 54:40
  Speaker 10: And come up with some reason why that was important.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: I'm sure he could.
• 54:46
  Speaker 10: Do you have more?
• 54:47
  Speaker 13: Because I saw another John C. I think this is
• 54:49
  Speaker 13: the John C.
• 54:50
  Speaker 20: Reilly.
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's the John C. Reilly hour.
• 54:54
  Speaker 10: Do you have more, though?
• 54:55
  Speaker 16: I don't want to.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Not really.
• 54:56
  Speaker 6: I mean, let me wind down. I saw Hostel. I've
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: never seen Hostel.
• 55:01
  Speaker 11: It's all right.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: If you like killing people. Yeah.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Don't see Hostel 2.
• 55:06
  Speaker 6: I don't know. Really?
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: I actually think it was the better movie. Really? I
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: felt that way. I don't know.
• 55:12
  Speaker 6: I think it would.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: Just get cheaper. Any of those types. And I think
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: I finally saw The Cabin in the Woods.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: You saw that? No, I saw the trailer.
• 55:23
  Speaker 15: Okay, because I was just going to say that's the
• 55:25
  Speaker 15: movie I'm going to geek out about, but I'm so
• 55:28
  Speaker 15: stoked for that.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: I'm afraid it's going to be Saw. That's what I'm afraid.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: But he's way more clever.
• 55:37
  Speaker 15: They're saying it like it just, it's like a scream killer. Like,
• 55:42
  Speaker 15: you will not be able to look at any horror
• 55:45
  Speaker 15: movie the same way.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: It's like... That's kind of what I'm hoping. What movie
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: is this? The Cabin in the Woods.
• 55:51
  Speaker 15: It's like, I'm, from looking at the trailers and, like,
• 55:54
  Speaker 15: reading the synopsis, I'm guessing it's like Inception meets Evil
• 55:57
  Speaker 15: Dead 2 or something.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: Like, it's... Looks pretty crazy. He's really good.
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: It seems like you get so many, like, hyped-up blurbs
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: about horror movies.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I always talk to them and I go, oh,
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: it's another horror movie. Building those movies up.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: They preach to the choir down there, don't they?
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, from what I've heard. I haven't been, but yeah.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: But it's one Joss Whedon had been working on for
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: quite a while. I was thinking he was going to
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: direct it. I forgot he handed it off. But still,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: the fact that he's writing it and has been this
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: hardcore into it And probably would have directed it, I guess,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: if not the Avengers situation happened. But yeah, just the
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: fact that he's involved in it, he's kind of getting
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: a pass, at least for me, still wanting to see.
• 56:46
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I was going to say that and The Raid
• 56:50
  Speaker 15: Redemption are like my two just.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: I've heard really good stuff.
• 56:54
  Speaker 15: The two movies that I'm just coming out that I'm
• 56:56
  Speaker 15: just super stoked for. But yeah, I can't geek out
• 57:01
  Speaker 15: about them yet because I haven't seen them.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Future geeking will take place, but.
• 57:05
  Speaker 15: But I have been kind of like on the past...
• 57:08
  Speaker 15: This weekend. Like I was kind of on a... Sort
• 57:10
  Speaker 15: of a Scandinavian kick. I re-watched like Valhalla Rising for...
• 57:16
  Speaker 15: Probably the ninth time. Because I love that movie so much.
• 57:21
  Speaker 15: And I saw Troll Hunter for the first time. I
• 57:23
  Speaker 15: don't know if any of you guys have seen this.
• 57:24
  Speaker 15: Going off of, you know, the whole Bigfoot thing.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: It was... I thought it was very interesting. The dryness,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: the dry humor of.
• 57:35
  Speaker 15: The main guy who, like, I looked up, apparently he's
• 57:38
  Speaker 15: like a comedian in Norway.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: But he was super serious in this movie, though, but
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: he just played it straight. But, yeah, I thought it
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: was a pretty entertaining little.
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: That sounds kind of right for a comedian in Norway.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: It was like, what does Nudge translate?
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: Does it work like all foreign stand-ups?
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: In Norway, trolls haunt you. I mean, he plays it
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: dead serious.
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: What I think the switch is, like, you know how
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: whenever you're looking for something, you see everything but that?
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: I bet the Bigfoot hunters are tripping over trolls.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Get these fucking trolls out of here. Bigfoot.
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: I've got a troll hunters. It's like big foots in
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: the way, man.
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: And I'm watching. I'm like, these are trolls.
• 58:23
  Speaker 8: These are giants.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: Like they're supposed to fit under bridges, not step over
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: mountains and shit. They sit on top of pencils. This
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: is not at all accurate. Damn it.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: You can't do the hand thing. I almost just did
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: this and hoping that the listeners would know what I
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: was talking about.
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: With my hands together.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: That's probably dating me, too.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, the 80s. Nobody has those pins.
• 58:49
  Speaker 10: Are you looking at me?
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious what you were going to talk about.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: I saw We Need to Talk About Kevin.
• 58:56
  Speaker 10: Are you looking at me?
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: Now you're going back in time.
• 58:59
  Speaker 20: John C.
• 58:59
  Speaker 12: Reilly all the way.
• 59:01
  Speaker 13: I'm sorry. Yeah, I finally rounded out my 2011 viewing
• 59:04
  Speaker 13: four months into 2012 and saw.
• 59:05
  Speaker 10: We Need to Talk About Kevin.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: Do we need to talk about.
• 59:14
  Speaker 13: I really needed to talk about we need to talk
• 59:16
  Speaker 13: about Kevin after I like seeing films by myself and
• 59:19
  Speaker 13: that usually works out for me occasionally something will be
• 59:22
  Speaker 13: so disturbing that I need somebody there with me.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: The support group that is Movie Meltdown I had a
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: little lady in the front that kept repeating do you understand.
• 59:33
  Speaker 16: What's going on she's not the best candidate to discuss
• 59:39
  Speaker 16: it with in the bathroom um But you did anyway.
• 59:45
  Speaker 10: Well, she was so cute, I actually did talk to
• 59:47
  Speaker 10: her about it.
• 59:48
  Speaker 13: She was totally perplexed by the film. And she said,
• 59:51
  Speaker 13: the part that I don't understand is, did they ever
• 59:55
  Speaker 13: talk about heaven?
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: That was my wife.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: I remember when she saw an officer and a gentleman
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 6: after it was over, she said, So Richard Gere was
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: the officer. Who was the gentleman?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Deborah Wink.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 17: And then I tried to explain to her, I think
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 17: that was the idea that they didn't talk about him
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 17: until it was too late.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 13: And then I, she just looked at me blankly and
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 13: it was like, you know, the taxi driver.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 11: It's like those signs that say think.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: So you shot her in the head.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 6: Oh, sorry.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: I was taking it a little too far.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 13: Yeah, apparently I had not read the book. And the
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 13: movie is actually really interesting. It confirmed my belief that
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 13: children are evil. So that was helpful. It's more disturbing
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 13: than any child as monster film I've ever seen.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 10: I mean, it shoots them into hell and everything else.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Insidious?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 10: Oh, wow.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 13: Yeah, it gets under your skin, mostly because the actors,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 13: there's three actors that they have playing Kevin, are all
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 13: so good. And I don't know, I haven't read anything
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 13: about it. I shouldn't do that before I talk about
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 13: it publicly.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Reading's lame. Movies are awesome.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 13: This young actor, whoever plays the older Kevin, I feel
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 13: like he must have studied, I mean, I feel like
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 13: he must have shot.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 10: All the sequences with the kid first, and then.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 13: he studied the kid to mimic those mannerisms because it seemed.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 10: Like the same kid had aged, and it was so creepy.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe they just started this movie a long time ago. Yeah, well.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: We need to talk about the kid who plays Kevin.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 13: And also, upping the creepy factor, Tilda Swinton, John C.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 10: Reilly, love scene.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: Dude, you could have stopped it, Tilda Swinton, actually. A
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: little warning.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 10: Sorry, I jumped right into that.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Tilda Swinton solo love scene, still frightening. Yeah, I was
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: going to say.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 10: Yeah. But you're talking about the John C. Reilly, funny
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 10: John C. Reilly, serious John C.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 20: Reilly.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: Nothing funnier than a John C. Reilly.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 11: There's a whole scene between funny John C.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: Reilly and serious John C.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: Reilly. Oh, my God, that would be amazing. It's so hot. No.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 13: But what he brings to this, because I was talking
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 13: to a friend about this, and he was like, I
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 13: don't know about that casting, not having seen it.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 10: And the casting's perfect, because.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 13: The character is not fleshed out at all, and you
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 13: don't have time for him.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 10: He just needs to be likable and sad. So John C.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 10: Reilly is perfect.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 16: You're like, this dad is.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 13: So likable and sad, and that's what he brings to it.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 6: He can bring that.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 13: The movie, for me, I had a lot of problems
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 13: with it because there was a lot of stuff that
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 13: I felt wasn't necessarily earned, like a lot of... where
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 13: you're like, well, that doesn't really make any sense. And
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 13: I guess it's just because it's a bad adaptation. I
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 13: guess the book delves into things more, and it felt
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 13: like a lot of the things didn't feel organic. It
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 13: was like these setups that were just setups for shock
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 13: value or whatever that didn't really make sense in terms
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 13: of character motivations.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 10: But interesting, haunting, that's what I got on that one.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: That's what we have to say about Kevin. We've talked
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: But like Evil Kid.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: To the max.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 10: Evil kid to the max. I mean, amazingly manipulative, like, incredible.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: Scarier than, like, the average episode of Barney.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: That's frightening. That is truly.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 6: You've never seen the Barney kids? Oh, man, they have
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: to drug them to get them back.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 15: When I was a little kid and we went to, like, daycare,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 15: they would make us watch that show for punishment.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: Like, that was punishment. And we were like, please, no,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: anything but Barney. Our work is done here.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: My daycare babysitter let us watch Battle of the Planets,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: and that was the greatest thing ever.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 16: Oh, man.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure that's appropriate, actually. I know, because I
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: was watching it, and I'm messed up now, so that's
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: probably not a good idea.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 18: My parents don't know.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 11: It's a little late to tell them.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 15: I saw a similar movie to that called Joshua a
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 15: couple years ago.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know if any of you all have seen it.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 15: It's a very, like, it's the Another, you know, demon
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 15: child who's like one of the parents is like, I'm
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 15: on you.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: And the other one's like, he's fine.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 10: And, you know, which is exactly what this is too. Yeah.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The same Rockwell.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 15: And it had that like Dave Matthews theme song, which
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 15: I actually say, I like that song, like probably 10
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 15: times more than I actually liked the movie.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: The movie is okay, but I thought that song was awesome.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: But that's all I remember from it, really, is just
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: the Dave Matthews songs.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 15: I'm like, I hate Dave Matthews, but the song he
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 15: does for this movie is pretty cool.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think she's fantastic. She was in that film,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 10: and then she did Orphan. Was that what it was called?
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what does it mean? I like Orphan.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 13: I think it was around the time she was doing
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 13: family planning stuff, because I think she's had a kid
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 13: since then, and I'm like, that must have really been.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 15: Also, I have to say, I don't want to give
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 15: too much away, but the twist in Orphan, I have
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 15: to admit, was probably one of the most shocking.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: Like, oh.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 15: Shit, maybe just stand up in the theater and just scream, like.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: What the fuck? I didn't see it for a while. Like,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: no other movie has had that. I did not see
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: it coming. People did not ruin it for me and
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: I have to say that moment was pretty awesome. I
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: was just like, this movie is ridiculous and over the
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: top and I love it. I was a little drunk
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: when I saw it too. I think I had to be.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: I was still on board. It's that crazy. Demon Kids, man.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: You gotta watch them.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Gotta watch them Demon Kids.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: I think the reason.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: Why Demon Kid movies work is because at some point
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: all parents think their kid is a demon. Just for
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: even a fleeting moment, they're like, there's something wrong with this.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: One.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 6: Not me, because I was the demon kid. And my
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 6: parents were always like, you're going to grow up and
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 6: you're going to have kids that are going to be
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 6: just like you.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, no.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 13: No.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to, like, I'm not going to get married.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to have kids. And later I'm like,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 6: I'll get married, I guess, whatever. Yeah, okay, we'll have kids.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: You know, my kids are the most awesome kids that
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 6: ever existed. I would have had kids a long time
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: before if I knew I was going to get this deal.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: If you could pick those specific kids out.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, and they say you can't be friends
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: with your kids. You have to be their parents.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 6: Given them any favoritism.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 11: If they were assholes, I wouldn't.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: Be friends with them.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 6: I'm just friends with them because I get along with them.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 6: But what I think is the evil gene skips a generation,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 6: so their kids are going to be nightmares.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: My daughter is just about perfect in every way. I
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: just love having even conversations with her, and she's only
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: in second grade. But the first three months of her life,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: if she wasn't Asleep, she was screaming. It was so
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: bad that in the nursery at the hospital, after we'd
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: been through hours of labor, they brought her back. They said,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: we'll take her for a while so you can get
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: some sleep. They brought her back to us and said,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: you have to take her. We can't calm her down.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: Family members couldn't keep her. It was just nonstop screaming.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: We lived in an apartment and people complained daily. thinking
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: we were hurting our kid, could go nowhere, and we
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: were not getting any sleep. It was eight hours a
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: day of straight screaming.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 10: I'm glad this film was not made then, and.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 6: You didn't see it.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: That's sort of the beginning of it.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 13: And then the way the mom reacts to things, then
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 13: when the kid does turn out to be truly, truly evil,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 13: then she questions her role in that, and is it nature,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 13: is it nurture, is it both, and they're both my fault?
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 13: And that sort of dynamic, I think, takes it to
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 13: a level that most of those films don't.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: I almost went and got fixed.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: Your poor son. No, it's funny.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: I was a terrible kid, but I was really quiet.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 6: My mom said I'd be a baby, I'd never cry,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 6: and then she'd go to feed me and I'd be starving.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 6: And I just wouldn't, you know, I didn't speak up.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 6: But I was a terrible kid in the sense of
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 6: I always felt like I had my own agenda. I
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 6: couldn't believe I was expected to get up in the
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 6: morning and go to school. I don't have things to do.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 6: I wasn't mean or anything, but I was insane.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: I like the meanness sometimes. That's what sells me on
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: kids a little bit. Just today, I was over with
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: my niece and nephew. My niece will give you the look. Oh,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: my God. I have never seen such a pissed look
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: come out of a person and she's like just turned
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: three yeah and i was sitting across the room and
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: she just fired it at somebody and i was like
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: oh i like that kid oh look at that that
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: is pure evil I was like oh I like her
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: she's a good one I'm hanging on to this kid
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: if you guys don't want her I'm taking this kid
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: she's cool.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: That would be a great sitcom if Brian I can't imagine.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: Just a sitcom about a demon child.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 16: Really?
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: Like they're joking about it? Like, what can you do?
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: That's a good one. Yeah, but the parent just sort
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: of comes to terms with it. Well, it's kind of
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: like Deckard.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 15: The door busts open like it's Kramer, but it's just
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 15: the kid standing there like he made it open with
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 15: his mind.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: And just like staring at him.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 11: It's me.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 6: That's not a bad idea. I think it may be
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 6: the cultural moment for a sitcom about the demon child.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 20: Yeah.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, that's the early stages of Dexter. You've
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: got to teach, you've got to guide the kid on
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: how to use its evil for the best possible purpose
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: that you can come up with. Or your own agenda,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: which would be mine. This is probably going to be
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: evidence later.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: Won't it?
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 14: Oh, well.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 16: All of these episodes are going to be used in
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 16: court against you at some point.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Awesome. Somebody will be listening to the podcast you did.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 17: Hundreds of hours of evidence.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 18: Yes.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: This is all going for something useful. Kind of amazing.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: As long as it goes on.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: I remember a conversation my parents had. My dad said
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 6: that if he wanted to commit a murder and confess
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: it He would write it on the book page of
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 6: our hometown newspaper. Just write out exactly what he did.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 11: Because nobody would ever know. And then my mother sort of.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: Literary jokes. Yeah.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 6: And my mother said, but why would you confess it?
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 6: What would be the point? And he's, yeah, never mind.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: It's like, you're right.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: There would be no point.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: I guess I won't do that.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: And then mom jokes.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Never mind. You don't get anything.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 6: God.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: What do you got ruined?
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: You're still in core, Mom.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: Oh, man, those Barney kids. I had some theory about, like,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 6: they mated them to create, I don't know, some other
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 6: scary young people. But, you know, I mentioned I watched
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 6: the I've already mentioned the Bugsy Malone movie, but I
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: want to plug it just a little bit more.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Are you getting money from them?
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: Just when you think it can't be any creepier, I
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 6: just looked it up and noticed the music was done
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 6: by Paul Williams. I don't know if you remember Paul Williams.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: I remember the name.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's kind of like an evil child in a way. But, yeah,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 6: I was wondering who wrote.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 11: Music.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 6: It's Paul Williams. There you go.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 6: Super creep fest. Definitely.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 10: Did he die tragically?
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 6: Let me see.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Are you wishing it upon him if not?
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 6: Or did he choke on a sandwich or something? No,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 6: that was Mama Cass.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 18: No, I just.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 10: Made that up.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: Did you? Probably.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: It's always more interesting.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 6: Let's see if they have, like, death. If that comes up.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 6: Personal life. They have no.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: Still alive.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. If you can picture it, just a Wikipedia page scrolling.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 13: You can.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: Fascinating. See if you can beat that.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 6: No, nothing about any spectacular death. Made that up. You know,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 6: if you're going to make something up, you should really
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: go for it.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 10: It would involve an elevator shaft.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So he died on a soap opera? Wow, I
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: did not know that.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: Thanks, Wikipedia.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: You're always right. Just edit it in. Just make it real.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: All right, so before we go out on a Paul
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: Williams song, is there a specific one you want to,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: by the way?
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 6: Oh, didn't he do something for Helen Reddy that Oh,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 6: he did Three Dog Nights' old-fashioned love song. Greg, would
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: you like to... No, I can.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: Probably sing to Helen Reyes. I don't know if I'd
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: admit to that. I told you I used to sit
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: in my parents' music room and listen to Helen Reyes'
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: records right after I listened to Bee Gees.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 6: We've Only Just Begun for the Carpenters. No, that isn't... Oh,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 6: Rainy Days and Mondays.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: See, that's a good song. I like their depressing tone.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: I'm on board with that.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 9: Oh, fuck.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: He wrote The Rainbow Connection.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, you've got to give him credit for that.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he wrote The Rainbow Connection, which, oh, that guy
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 6: Andy did on The Office, a banjo rendition, on bad
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 6: advice to impress Pam.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 11: Can you sing in a sexy high falsetto?
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 6: And he sang that song. Oh, and what I was
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: going to say about the movie Bugsy Malone is Angela
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 6: on The Office is I kind of get the sense
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 6: it would be her favorite movie. Because she likes those
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 6: posters with cats dressed as people, and just there's a
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: whole creepiness to why somebody thought this was going to
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 6: be really entertaining. Let's dress kids up as gangsters and
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 6: set them.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: And they just keep doing it for like more than
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: a couple hours.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 11: And nobody questions this.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 6: The only thing I can compare it to is one day,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: you know, I studied art in college. I did art history.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: I saw the flying babies.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 11: I saw the pootie.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 14: One day I suddenly thought, what the fuck is that about?
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 14: Why are there flying babies in all these fucking pictures?
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 14: They're not even wearing diapers.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 11: And I like babies. I really like babies.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 6: You know, I see a baby on the street. I
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: smile at it. We connect.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: Why is that baby on the street?
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 6: If a baby came, one of those flying babies comes
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 6: at me, I'd be swatting it, man.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: Here's another round of those flying babies.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 6: And these things were in pictures for centuries and people
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 6: just accepted it.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 11: Like, yeah, the flying babies.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: You know. Flying babies. Oh, God. Business as usual.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: Anybody seen the Portlandia where they have the scene where
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: it's put a bird on it?
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Put a bird on it. That was great.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: Put a flying baby on it.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 6: I like Portlandia more than I expected to.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: I had way too much. My wife was like, you know,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: once you've made the first joke about, you know, I
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: think the first scene from the first episode is the
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: dream of the 90s of Portland.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 6: Still alive.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: And that kind of sets up the whole series. Like,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: we're just going to elaborate on that. I think she
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: was like, the joke's done. And they're just beating that
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: man over.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: I don't know they keep finding interesting ways to beat
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: that dead horse that's kind of what I like because
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: some people don't like the kind of joke that like
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: you just keep saying and it's not really that funny
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: but once you get to that 10,000th time suddenly it's
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: really funny and I don't know it's kind of in
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: that vein and I really like Carrie Brownstein something about
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: her I really like and.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 6: I think she's hot.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: Too The Amy Mann episode.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 11: Oh, that was my favorite one.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 6: When they find out Amy Mann is their maid.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: That's what happened.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: They're both praising her and ridiculing her at the same time.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 11: Yeah, they're like, oh, we're big fans.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: I think that's our cleaning lady. I think that's Amy Mann.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 9: No, it is.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: It's Amy Mann.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, the music industry, everything's really messed up.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 14: I don't know.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 6: And so they go like, Amy. And she looks around,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 6: she's like, yeah, what? And so.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 11: They go, we're huge fans.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 6: Oh, I can't believe, I really love your, and I'm
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 6: sorry I downloaded your last four CDs and copied them
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 6: for all my friends. Well, okay, you know. They're like,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 6: you know, the stove, you really, well yeah some of
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 6: that it's like well some of that it looks like
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 6: dirt but it's not really dirt no it is dirt
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: you really have to you have to get up on
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 6: it to scrub it hard enough to get that off
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 6: but don't overdo it because we don't want you know
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 6: we don't want to the soap yeah it's acidic but
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 6: you'll do great you'll do you'll do fine whatever.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 11: You do it's good Oh, man, that's genius. It's super awkward.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 15: I love it just when people like that, insulting people,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 15: but somehow being nice to them at the same time.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 15: That was what was with the Christian Bale rant. That's
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 15: what I thought was so funny because in between he
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 15: was just like, you're a nice guy, you're a nice guy, but.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 6: I'm going to get the shit out of you.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: But you're a nice guy.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: He's like yelling at you. You're a nice guy. I
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: like you. I like you. But we're done. Thank you.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 6: You're dead to me.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: But you're a good guy. That's hilarious to me.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that show, I don't even know how I got there,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: but I really appreciate that show.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, my sister sent that to me. She's like, I
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 6: don't know if you've seen this. And I had seen
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 6: it on my Netflix forever. I don't know. I'm not
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 6: going to watch that. Everything else she sends me is documentaries.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 6: My sister, she doesn't believe in fiction. It's like Santa Claus.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 6: She sends me all these documentaries and sometimes I find
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 6: myself reading the description on them and imagining what sort
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 6: of pompous asshole I'll be after I watch it. It's like, okay.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 6: I was looking at the one, it's a documentary called Helvetica.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: Yes. Oh, yeah. I had to watch that for a class.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 6: As God is my witness, I will never take the
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 6: font Helvetica for granted again. You know, that's what this
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 6: is going to take me.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: It's interesting. You're like, wow. For like the first 15 minutes,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: you're like, okay, I'm done with this. You've worn out
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: your welcome. Yeah.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 15: I thought the most interesting part of that movie was
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 15: not even in the movie at all. It was like
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 15: a deleted scene on the DVD extra. It was the guy,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 15: it was the German guy. I guess he was the
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 15: co-creator of it. And he was just basically, it was
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 15: just him just ranting about how he hated Microsoft. How
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 15: like they, you know, they hire these people, they hire
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 15: these people, you know, just to save money, to have
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 15: a font that was very similar to Health Etica, like
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 15: basically copying it.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: And he's just like, they're just evil guys. He's just ranting.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: I was just like, that was the most interesting.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 15: Just seeing him be so impassioned and enraged over a font.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: I was like, wow. That's kind of amazing.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 6: And then he kept telling Bill Gates, but you're a
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: nice guy.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: But you're evil, man. But we're through. Done with you, Gates.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: We're done professionally, man.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: You'll never work in this town. Do you need a reference?
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: That audio is like three years old. I can still
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: joke about it. It's timeless. Philip Seymour Hoffman doing one
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: of those.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 15: That would be epic. He's a good screamer. I can
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 15: see him just flipping out on Seymour. At his whole
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 15: table full of coffee mates. Alright, are we ready to
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 15: round this thing out?
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 13: I think so.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we better. Otherwise, that about does it.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: We will return next week. Same geek time, same geek feed.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: Thanks for listening.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 16: Oh, Debbie!
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, Kermit.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: Hey, what's this I hear about you wanting to do
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: a rainbow song? Oh, yeah, well, I just dig songs
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: about rainbows.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 16: Oh, good.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 10: I sent you a list.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got the list. Somewhere over the rainbow, and
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: I'm always chasing rainbows.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, which one should I do?
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: Well, you left out one rainbow song.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: I did?
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: My rainbow song. Oh, that one.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 10: Well, I thought you might be tired of that.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 6: Well, no.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: Actually, no.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 8: I'm not tired of it at all.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 10: Well, let's do it then.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, good.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: I thought you'd never ask.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: It goes like this.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 9: Remember?
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Why are there so many.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 7: About rainbows and what's on the other side.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 20: Rainbows are visions, but only illusions. Rainbows have nothing to hide.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 9: So we've been told and some choose to believe it.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 10: I know they're wrong, wait and.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 20: See Someday we'll find it, the rainbow connection The lovers,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 20: the dreamers.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 9: And me All of us find it still We know
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 9: that it's probably magic Have you been half asleep, and
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 9: have you heard voices? I've heard them calling my name.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 9: Is this the sweet sound that calls the young sailors?
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 9: The voice might be lying the same. I've heard it
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 9: too many times to ignore it.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 7: It's something that I'm supposed to be.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 9: Someday we'll find the rainbow connection. The lovers, the dreamers,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 9: and me. La, la, la, la, dee, da, doo. La, la, la, la, dee, da, doo.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 6: Every now and then when I start going insane, I
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 6: start thinking of Sean Connery singing songs with that special pronunciation.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: You're the man now, dog. Something in the way she moves.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 12: This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 12: edited by The Oddity Studios, with the opening music performed
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  Speaker 12: support the show, email producer at moviemeltdown.com.
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  Speaker 8: Talk hard!