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This Gay Week: The Flag That Annoys The World · The Karel Show

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  Speaker 1: No time to fear. Correll is so near because show
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  Speaker 1: time is here, So on with the show.
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  Speaker 2: Let's give it a go.
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  Speaker 1: Correll is the one that you need to know. Now.
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  Speaker 1: It's show side.
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  Speaker 3: It is Pride month, so you would think there'd be
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  Speaker 3: great news about gays from around the globe. Not quite
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  Speaker 3: the case. Scott Jacobson's gonna be here with us live
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  Speaker 3: from Ukraine to talk about this gay week on the
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  Speaker 3: Correl Show. I'm the good Man Project.
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  Speaker 2: No, all right, it does Crell Show. I am Corral
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  Speaker 2: and most of you know that I have.
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  Speaker 3: Had quite a trying gay week. We're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 3: that with our friend Scott Jacobson, who is coming to
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  Speaker 3: us from the Ukraine.
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  Speaker 2: There he is, there's this good little face. What a
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  Speaker 2: pitch those little cheekies. Hello, how are you?
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  Speaker 3: How how's life in the Ukraine?
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  Speaker 4: Things are good. Bombing has been our bombardments have been slower,
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  Speaker 4: so sleep has been better and the weather has picked
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  Speaker 4: up to more than one sunny day, so I'm quite
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  Speaker 4: happy to speak.
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  Speaker 3: Well there we go. All right, Well, I'm glad you
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  Speaker 3: are all right. Well Scott knows because I sent him
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  Speaker 3: the clip of me on the Great Britain news. I'm
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  Speaker 3: making international gay news this week. Uh And and a
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  Speaker 3: lot of you that have watched my show this week
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  Speaker 3: know that the chopped up portions of that that I
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  Speaker 3: posted on social media have gotten comments like you need
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  Speaker 3: to be put in a camp. You know, you don't
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  Speaker 3: need Pride months. You need to go to hell and
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  Speaker 3: burn with the rest of the sinners. You know, all
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  Speaker 3: of this just on and on and on of these
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  Speaker 3: really dreadful comments calling for my death, calling for you know,
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  Speaker 3: gay people, trans people, by people to be have some
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  Speaker 3: sort of harm, befall them, or be taken out of
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  Speaker 3: polite society. Which is amazing because the host went on
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  Speaker 3: after I left the show to say how she just
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  Speaker 3: didn't see why they needed Pride Month because to her
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  Speaker 3: everything for gays just seemed fine and rosy and and
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  Speaker 3: you know she should watch this Gay week, is what
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  Speaker 3: she should do before she comments about that. But the
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  Speaker 3: Hello Fresh post did stir off an international controversy where
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  Speaker 3: they alluded to anal sex in their post, and I
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  Speaker 3: guess that was just too much for the heterosexual masses
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  Speaker 3: and they have all lost their minds. So I don't know, Scott,
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  Speaker 3: do you want to weigh in on the Hello Fresh controversy,
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  Speaker 3: or do you want to weigh in on the comments
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  Speaker 3: that are under my post about how I'm basically should
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  Speaker 3: die or burning hell, or me and my group are
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of perverts, and just on and on and on.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there's one interaction I had today, Actually, we're
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  Speaker 4: an individuals mentioning several instances of extremist behavior that were
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  Speaker 4: exemplified by extraordinary acts of violence based on responding to
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  Speaker 4: what people said. And these are people who were fundamentalist religious,
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  Speaker 4: typically anti LGBT and so on. Yet here you are
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  Speaker 4: undergoing this shit for decades. What massive violent act have
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  Speaker 4: you committed? Right, So there's a huge disconnect between how
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people in LGBT communities are treated and
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  Speaker 4: then the lack of acts of mass violence or sort
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  Speaker 4: of retributive justice, so to speak, and the disconnect also
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  Speaker 4: with the way in which this individual is responding saying
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  Speaker 4: things are great, I don't see why we even need it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we've heard that a lot echoed in the in
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  Speaker 3: the Fox News and Republican Maga echo chamber. Well, why
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  Speaker 3: do they even need a Pride month? Then, of course
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  Speaker 3: they're trying to rename it, which is going just spectacularly
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  Speaker 3: badly for them. Uh, you know, like traditional Family Month
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  Speaker 3: or whatever, and that's just not working for them. But
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  Speaker 3: the the I just sent the post that had all
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  Speaker 3: these comments to that journalist at GBN and said, you
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  Speaker 3: went on air after I left, which is kind of
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  Speaker 3: chicken shit, and commented about how, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 3: even see why they need Pride Month. Well, read these comments,
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  Speaker 3: and maybe just maybe two days ago on my show,
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  Speaker 3: I actually said it's amazing that more gays are not
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  Speaker 3: mass murderers, that we that we do not go out
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  Speaker 3: and and just go crazy, and instead we respond with empathy, compassion,
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  Speaker 3: with activism, you know. We we respond to the homophobia
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  Speaker 3: and to their hatred and often to their violence. Uh
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  Speaker 3: and and we respond with community and community efforts. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's just amazing to me. I guess not
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  Speaker 3: a lot of gays are armed. I don't know, because
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  Speaker 3: it's amazing to me that we are as peaceful as
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  Speaker 3: we are given the kind of attacks that we endure.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's also the psychology of justifying acts of violence
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  Speaker 4: against some of these minority communities and then blaming it
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  Speaker 4: on them. In some sense, it's saying essentially, they made
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  Speaker 4: me do it right right. So it's this attent of
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  Speaker 4: buteles the attend actual example of self more attempted self
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  Speaker 4: exploitation by externalization of blame to the actual victims of
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  Speaker 4: that vice.
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  Speaker 1: So on with the show. Let's give it a go.
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  Speaker 1: Correll is the one.
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  Speaker 2: That you need to know.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, we're doing this Gay Week with
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  Speaker 3: Scott Jacobson from The good Man Project. I'm not advocating
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  Speaker 3: gay's arm themselves and go create, you know, commit violence.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just amazed. I'm sixty three.
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  Speaker 3: I've been out since I was thirteen, so for fifty years,
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  Speaker 3: I and everyone around me has had to endure really
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  Speaker 3: horrible I mean literally today on Instagram people are calling
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  Speaker 3: for my death, saying I should be put in a camp,
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  Speaker 3: you know, all kinds of things. And my big crime
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  Speaker 3: is that I suck better dick than they do. And
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  Speaker 3: and so that you know, and and that I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm being flippant about that, but you know, my big
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  Speaker 3: crime is that I love someone of the same gender
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  Speaker 3: that I you know, that I am not like that,
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  Speaker 3: And that's the big key catchphrase, that I am not
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  Speaker 3: like them. And because I am not like them, they are,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and I'm trans. People are being murdered in
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  Speaker 3: record numbers across the globe. LGBTQ people are being oppressed
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  Speaker 3: in record numbers across the globe. We are going backwards
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  Speaker 3: across the globe. I am just always amazed that we don't,
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  Speaker 3: because wars have been started over less. Okay, Iran did
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  Speaker 3: less to the United States to start this war than
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  Speaker 3: straight people have done to gay people historically, So it's
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  Speaker 3: just amazing to me. Now along those lines, it is
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  Speaker 3: Pride Month. You would think that, you know, things like
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  Speaker 3: Pride flags would be commonplace and everybody would be used
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  Speaker 3: to them. Not true. Eurovision has banned pride flags from
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  Speaker 3: the very queer contest stage. Nothing is gayer than Eurovision.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, come on, they're the they launched ABBA's.
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  Speaker 4: Career, the higher ranking winners of one of them.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, right, they launched Abbas right, they love gays on
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  Speaker 3: Eurovision you know. And yet and now they say you
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  Speaker 3: can fly the flag of your country, but you cannot
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  Speaker 3: fly a Pride flag. That is a step back, that
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  Speaker 3: is not a step forward. And Eurovision has a ton
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  Speaker 3: of gay fans. I don't think this is going to
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  Speaker 3: endear them to the show.
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  Speaker 4: That's entirely true, and and the justifications tend to be
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  Speaker 4: pretty thin of any rejection of the I mean, granted,
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  Speaker 4: it's the it's the symbolic aspect of this sort of
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  Speaker 4: cultural war, but you know, it's still mattering because it's
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  Speaker 4: such a prominent event, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Such a prominent gay event. Hello, Eurovision is the gayest
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  Speaker 3: song contest around. It's gayer than American Idol, and that's
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  Speaker 3: hosted by Ryan Seacrest for the love of God. H
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  Speaker 3: you know. I mean so anyway, And another pride issue,
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  Speaker 3: or before led Barnsley Council, this is in the UK
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  Speaker 3: to no longer fly the Pride flag on town Hall
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  Speaker 3: even during their Pride festival. Oh wait, they're not having
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  Speaker 3: one because the Reform Council. They're canceled that too. They
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  Speaker 3: are not alone. They are one of over two hundred
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  Speaker 3: places that I found in the news this week that
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  Speaker 3: are now banning Pride flags from their town halls, from
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  Speaker 3: their city buildings, you know, et cetera, from their corporate headquarters,
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  Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. You have to wonder how a
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  Speaker 3: flag pisss people off so much. It's not a Confederate flag,
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  Speaker 3: it's not a swatsticka, it's just a rainbow. And yet
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  Speaker 3: apparently Scott, it appears to piss off a lot of people.
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  Speaker 4: That's a big aspect of a lot of this commentary too.
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  Speaker 4: Even if Christinace we were still rundown, which I wanted
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  Speaker 4: to do sort of the big picture globally historically of
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  Speaker 4: the facts around lgbtqu equality and repression. Individuals will stick
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  Speaker 4: to from the populations after mentioned it's insulting. They won't
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  Speaker 4: say it's not factual. They'll say it's insulting. So the
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  Speaker 4: knowledge of the history can be insulting to some individuals. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't sort of override the fact that you're trying
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  Speaker 4: to present a factual history. And obviously weekly we do
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  Speaker 4: this series and it's primarily about contemporary factual history with
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  Speaker 4: some interpreted lenses. Obviously, have a more rich personal experience
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  Speaker 4: and knowledge based on I do on subject matter, but
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  Speaker 4: it's you know, I often come across that as a pushback.
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  Speaker 4: It is insulting rather than it's not factual.
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  Speaker 3: Well, now, one of my shows this week was the
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  Speaker 3: outrage machine about which social media. That's all social media
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  Speaker 3: is is an outrage machine. H and Donald Trump's presidency
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  Speaker 3: is just an outrage machine. And all of this hooplaw
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  Speaker 3: that we cover all across the globe about LGBTQ rights
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  Speaker 3: is just from the outrage machine. These people aren't really
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  Speaker 3: upset about gay people. Most of them don't know any
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  Speaker 3: or if they do, their family members, you know, they don't.
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  Speaker 3: They're not really that upset about gay people. They're just
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  Speaker 3: being told what the outrage of the week is. And
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  Speaker 3: the outrage of the week this week pride flags. That's
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  Speaker 3: the outrage of Oh it's Pride month, so pride flags
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  Speaker 3: are everywhere. So let's go tear them down and show
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  Speaker 3: how outraged we are at? What What are you?
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  Speaker 1: And?
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  Speaker 3: I you know, you just can't corner these people on
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  Speaker 3: this what are you mad at? Specifically because they don't
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  Speaker 3: have anything, They don't know what they're mad at. They're
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  Speaker 3: just mad because they're told to be mad by their
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  Speaker 3: preacher or by their political leader or by But they
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  Speaker 3: don't know why they're angry. If you ask them, okay,
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  Speaker 3: what negative things have LGBTQ people done to society? How
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  Speaker 3: has a gay person negatively affected your life? If you
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  Speaker 3: ask them specifically, how have gay people negatively impacted your life,
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  Speaker 3: they don't have an answer because we haven't and that
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  Speaker 3: so it's just it's manufactured outrage. It always has been,
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  Speaker 3: it always will be. We're you know, we're not a
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  Speaker 3: majority of the population. Trans people are less than one percent.
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  Speaker 3: How can you be mad at less than one percent
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  Speaker 3: of the population. That's like being mad at white rhinos.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wait, there aren't any, but but you know what
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying. It's it's like being mad at some some
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  Speaker 3: species that only has one percent of the population left,
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  Speaker 3: and you know it's ridiculous. So they're outrage is manufactured.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, if an individual's had a bad experience individually
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  Speaker 4: with another person who happens to be of that background,
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  Speaker 4: that's an individual basis. It's not a community or sort
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  Speaker 4: of crime. We do have lots of cases of denominational
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  Speaker 4: religion for instance, or political ideology as a whole used
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  Speaker 4: to commit crimes and acts of violence. Or justify them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, particularly against gay people.
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  Speaker 4: You know exactly, So I don't you know, so if
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  Speaker 4: it has undergone, particularly that individual experience, I don't have
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  Speaker 4: sort of sort of sort of gas like them on that.
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  Speaker 4: But in terms of what we're usually talking about on
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  Speaker 4: this particular segment around sort of a group, collective policy,
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  Speaker 4: et cetera, issues that just it just does not happen.
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  Speaker 3: No, and you know, and and sometimes good things happen.
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  Speaker 3: The charges have been dropped against the Budapest mayor over
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five Pride March, so they the Pride March
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  Speaker 3: was canceled, but then others said no, we're still going
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  Speaker 3: to do it, including the mayor who said yes, let's
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  Speaker 3: let's go, let's have Pride. Uh. And then the Conservatives
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  Speaker 3: were going to punish them because they disobeyed orders and
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  Speaker 3: had a Pride festival and all that.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Well, now the mayor and others who were involved and
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  Speaker 3: the actual festival happening have had charges against them dropped.
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  Speaker 3: That is good news. That's a piece of good news
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  Speaker 3: for Pride months because you know, they shouldn't have been
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  Speaker 3: charged in the first place, and their festival shouldn't have
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  Speaker 3: been canceled in the first place, but the fact that
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  Speaker 3: it was and then you know, they had charges brought
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  Speaker 3: against them. At least now the charges have been dropped.
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  Speaker 3: You know, maybe if they were carrying a Pride flag,
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  Speaker 3: they might have continued the charges, but they did not,
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  Speaker 3: So that at least is good news coming out of
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  Speaker 3: the UK that I'm sorry, not the UK, the EU
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  Speaker 3: that the charges against the Budapest mayor has been dropped
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  Speaker 3: in relation to his support of the Pride March in
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. It doesn't say anywhere in the story
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  Speaker 3: if they're having a Pride March twenty twenty six, but
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  Speaker 3: I doubt it. It doesn't, you know, really say and
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  Speaker 3: you know, I'm glad because this guy could have faced
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  Speaker 3: serious penalties. I mean, it could have really disrupted his life.
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  Speaker 3: But the Hungarian prosecutors dropped charges against the mayor, Georgelli
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  Speaker 3: Karas Sony. The event took place in June of twenty
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  Speaker 3: twenty five, a year ago, despite warnings of potential legal
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  Speaker 3: repercussions by Hungary's them Prime Minister Victor Orbon who is
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  Speaker 3: now gone. So the new prime minister heard what the
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  Speaker 3: people were saying. One of the things that people have
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  Speaker 3: told him the opinion polls is that they want to
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  Speaker 3: protect gay rights. And so the new prime minister, even
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  Speaker 3: though he's not that LGBTQ friendly, he does like his job,
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  Speaker 3: so he is starting to ease the country's stance on
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  Speaker 3: LGBTQ rights. The mayor said, neither freedom nor love can
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  Speaker 3: be banned in Budapest. Oh yes they can. That's a
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  Speaker 3: naive statement, because oh yeah they can. In April, the
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  Speaker 3: European Court of Justice rule that Hungary's anti LGBTQ laws
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  Speaker 3: violate EU rules and infringe its values of equality and
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  Speaker 3: minority rights. Citing that ruling on Thursday, the Hungarian see
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  Speaker 3: they used it. They used a technicality to get out
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  Speaker 3: of it. They're like, well, the EU says we're kind
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  Speaker 3: of violating your rights, and we kind of are, so
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  Speaker 3: you know what, we're just going to drop these charges.
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  Speaker 3: Let's act like this never happened, and then the EU
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  Speaker 3: will be happy. Kah. So there. It's really a once
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  Speaker 3: again it's the case of someone doing something right, not
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  Speaker 3: because they want to, but because they're being shamed into
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  Speaker 3: it or forced to. But at least they're doing you know,
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  Speaker 3: at least they're doing something right. Do you want to
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  Speaker 3: talk about Mendami my favorite You want to talk about Mendami,
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  Speaker 3: my favorite socialist.
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  Speaker 4: So, mister mondone is a new transfer very clinic mat
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  Speaker 4: or God charried trans people under the age of nineteen.
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  Speaker 4: I don't do the ages differ state by state with
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  Speaker 4: the curses some of this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Just could fat check me on that. No, well, yes
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  Speaker 3: and no. Some states are now banning gender affirming care
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  Speaker 3: for children, which they consider anyone under eighteen. Some states
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  Speaker 3: have laws about people who are wanting to transition prior
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  Speaker 3: to puberty, so they said it at fourteen. So there
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  Speaker 3: is no national set standard in terms of trans people
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  Speaker 3: when they can transition, how they can. The states seem
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  Speaker 3: to be putting it together in their own way. Red
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  Speaker 3: states obviously are not allowing it. Blue states are trying
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  Speaker 3: to allow it. Donald Trump doesn't want it to happen,
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  Speaker 3: you know. They He has tried to ban transitional therapy
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  Speaker 3: for minors. So it's a patchwork. It's sort of like
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  Speaker 3: abortion now. It's you know, it's some states are allowing it,
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  Speaker 3: some states are not, some states, you know. So in
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  Speaker 3: New York, I think Mandami is trying to do the
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  Speaker 3: right thing without being too provocative. In other words, it's
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  Speaker 3: the right thing to open a trans health clinic. He
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  Speaker 3: knew if he allowed younger people to get care there,
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  Speaker 3: it would fall under greater scrutiny and backlash limiting to
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  Speaker 3: nineteen and over. He can't get in any trouble even
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  Speaker 3: with the FEDS, because everyone going to the clinic will
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  Speaker 3: be nineteen and over. Because obviously, gender affirming care is
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  Speaker 3: going to be things like hormonal treatments, you know, psychiatric treatment,
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  Speaker 3: hormonal treatment, all of that, which is what it is
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  Speaker 3: to transition. And again, many states do not want and
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  Speaker 3: do not allow people that are prepubescent or under the
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  Speaker 3: age of eighteen to transition. It's a patchwork. They'd like
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  Speaker 3: to make it just a national law. They'd like Congress
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  Speaker 3: to pass a law that you can't transition until you're eighteen.
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  Speaker 3: Congress has not done that or anything really so about
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  Speaker 3: anything at all, including stopping a madman going to war.
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  Speaker 3: So in New York, he wanted to do something right
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  Speaker 3: during Pride months, but he didn't want to do something
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  Speaker 3: that was going to get him in controversy. And so
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's not a win win, it's a win,
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  Speaker 3: it's half a win. It would have been a win
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  Speaker 3: win if any person could go there of any age
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  Speaker 3: and get gender affirming care, if a sixteen year old
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  Speaker 3: or a fifteen year old or a seventeen year old.
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  Speaker 3: But the fact that they're nineteen and above, you know,
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  Speaker 3: also takes out the whole parental consent thing and you
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  Speaker 3: know all of that. But I'm not going to slide him.
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  Speaker 3: At least he's doing something good for the te community
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  Speaker 3: and not doing something bad. And right now we have
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  Speaker 3: to you know, that's that's what we have to count
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  Speaker 3: our lucky stars. You're pixelating Wi Fi and you see
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  Speaker 3: the Wi Fi in a war zone. Who knew? All right,
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  Speaker 3: So that's one of the stories. It is how it
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: goes Mondanie did launch a gender affirming care clinic and
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Queens how appropriate? Come on, let's put the trans clinic
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: in Queens. You know, that's perfect. Could have been Brooklyn,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: could have been the Bronx. Nope, put the trans clinic
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: in Queens. You know, hey, I'll take you.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: It's probably running on the list of like possil place,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: and let's do it that one. Put that one place.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Just trust on this one.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Just I'm sure that's what his aides, that just trust me. Trust,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: you're gonna put it in Queens. It's gonna be trust
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: in June.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, you're gonna open a TRANSPLANTAE in.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: June in Queens. Win win win win quinns all right
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: when we come back, and also Tipto no show, All right.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Scott Jacobsen is my guest. He is over in Ukraine.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: We are doing this Gay week, Uh, Scott. We there
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: was a they had to move in office because they're
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: in Vall Hall, which I assume is in the UK. Uh.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: The Equality and Human Rights Commission e h r C
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: has moved away from its Vallhall office after an attack
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: on the building, with chair doctor Mary and Stevenson telling
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: MPs that fears for staff safety have escalated following a
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Supreme Court ruling on the Equality Acts definition of sex
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: and gender. Giving evidence to the Women An Equality Select
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Committee on Tuesday, Stephenson said the watchdog had been forced
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: to relocate because of an attack on the building vandalism
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: by a group that has also vandalized conferences and West
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Streeting's office. This is yet another and this is the UK.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: This is yet another case of an LGBTQ organization coming
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: under attack and then for the safety of their own
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: people having to move to another location. And you know,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: you don't really picture the modern day UK as being
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: that homophobic, but it appears like here and everywhere that
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: anti gay sentiments are on the rise. And again I
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: think it's manufactured outrage, but there are people acting upon
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: this online outrage. And I know that this attack was
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: rooted in something online. I do. I know it was
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: fueled by something online or you know what I'm saying. Yes,
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: the Supreme Court ruling over there was misguided, but I
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: don't think the perpetrators of this crime were really paying
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: attention to that. I think they were online. They got
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: all worked up into a frenzy and went and attacked,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: you know, a building, which is how things seems to go.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: So it's sad that Vaullhall had to move. You know,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: they had to move their offices of the EHRC because
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: they didn't feel that their staff was safe. And you know,
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: it just that just seems regressive, does it not.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Violence is not the answer and if you have a
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: social disagreement, take it to the political arena. That's what
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: it's for.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, these young people who are doing these things, that's
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: not how they've been raised or how they've been trained.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Let's leave on a little bit of entertainment news that
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: is upsetting a lot of people. Spoiler alert if you're
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: going to watch the show Tiptoe, or you have watched
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: it and haven't seen the end. Tiptoe is created by
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: one of the best LGBTQ writers in the world, Russell T. Davies.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: I've had the pleasure of meeting and talking with him,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: interviewing with him. It's his new show. It had Alan
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Cummings with it, and it's about exactly what we're speaking
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: about now. It's a five part mini series about two neighbors,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: one gay, one straight, and the straight one is basically
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: a homophobe. And over the five episodes, you know, Alan
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Cumming goes out of his way to try to coexist
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: with his neighbor, but ultimately the homophobic neighbor, who could
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: be equated to Maga in this country, just doesn't buy it,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: doesn't want it. The final episode has upset people because
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: spoiler alert, Leo, who is played by Alan Cummings, is
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: found hung to by a light pole, you know, out
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: front of his house, and his neighbor and his neighbor's
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: friends are the ones who did it. And what Russell T.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Davis wanted to show is that when these kinds of
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: emotions and we were just talking about it, we were
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: giving real world examples of this. When these kinds of
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: emotions are left to fester and to grow and then
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: fueled by online hatred and everything else, it very often
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: can end in violence and death. And even though this
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: show was set in a different time period, so many
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: of the commenters down below about the show are saying,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: this smacks of today. This is too real, This is
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: hitting too close to home. This feels like modern day.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: It's sad that a community is at a place where
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: the murder of one of their people in a fictional
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: drama that was set years ago hit so close to
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: home today. The show is very well received, very very
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: well acted, very well written, another classic from Russell T. Davies.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: It's just sad that it has such a horrifying ending,
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: but yet a realistic one. Mm hmmm. I take it
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: you haven't seen that. I haven't. I take it you
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: haven't seen the tiptoe. You haven't. You haven't heard of
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: it or seen it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: I haven't heard I haven't seen the tip that. I
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: haven't heard about it. But thematically that would not feel
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: unfamiliar with regards to.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Well, Russell T.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Davis is my age, and so he went through the
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: AIDS crisis, he's been through Act Up, He's been through
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: all of the movements that we've had him in the
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: UK me over here. He writes a lot like I
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: talk in so Much, which as the weight of everything
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: that's happened is not lost on him. He remembers it.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: He carries those scars with him and he writes about that.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: And all of the shows he has written, it's they've
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: been very uber realistic, and this show is very uber realistic.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: And Alan Cumming, who's fabulous and openly gay, has said
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: that it was a rough show to do. It was
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: a rough ending to film, and part of the problem
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: with for him as well is that it felt very
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: present tense to him as well, that he could see
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: this happening in today's world. And that's sad when you're
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: showing hate from thirty forty years ago and then realizing
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: that it could happen now. His last show, it's a sin.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: The same thing. He's written a lot of fabulous LGBTQ shows,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: and he often sets them in the past because he
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: sees that as pivotal movements in our history, fighting for
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: our our rights under AIDS and all of that. But
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: it appears from our fiction and from our regular stories
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: that we are backfighting those same battles again, maybe not
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: centered around AIDS. I think Trans is the new AIDS.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: And I know that sounds odd to say, but they
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: used to hate us because of the AIDS. Now they
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: hate us because we support Trans. I was told on
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: that gb News program by the host that we Gaze
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: would be better served if we didn't ally ourselves with
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Trans if we didn't. Also, she said that Trans aren't
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: in our venn diagram, so why do why do we
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: support them? Because it's hurting us? And I said, that's
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: exactly why we support them, because they're being marginalized and
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: they need our help.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: But there is something the cubtle de a Chappelle attempt
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: to basically, you know, byas the alphabet people sort of rhetoric. Yes,
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: say that they're individuated and therefore not more or less right.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: But we're not going to break aparty out, all right,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: but we will try to find good stories for next week.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: On this day week, we've got to Jacobson and Ukraine,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: where I think he's just gonna move even take up residence.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: And it is Pride month, So next week we'll try
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: to find some prideful stories. I'll let you look.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: It's broadcasting from a completely different place.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: You know what.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Let me hear yours.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: I'm the bass daily to the carell cast on your
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: favorite streaming service. Hold on, hold on, held on. There
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: I got rid of all that hoopla because I haven't
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: said goodbye.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: And you know, I think next week I'll let you
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: pick the stories because the ones I found were like
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: really depressing.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: We gotta find some good stuff we do.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Have you heard any Have you heard any good day
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: over here?
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: I got one good news finally had another Keef pride
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: based article published in the Rabble. That's good. That's a win.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: You know, major news in Canada rebels, very prominent progressive publication,
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: maybe with promos.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Is keieve having a pride.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: I talked to the project manager maybe a month and.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: A half ago for some interviews.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: I can reach out and find out.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: I'd love to know that in the middle of a war,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: are they're gonna have a pride festival? Because we need
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: it now more than ever.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: But they haven't been having them in the middle of
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: the war. I don't know if they've had them consistently
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: over here.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: I'd like to know if they're having a pride in Keith.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: I'll fly over and perform my new single.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: You're gonna fly over a war zone where you can't fly?
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Well, I'd fly into Poland and take a train into
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: isn't that how you get out? You sure through Poland
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: you go in and out of Yeah?
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Yes, I went into Cracko via plane, then bust into
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: Liviv and then train leavit.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can get in and out. It's just
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: not easy, but you can. I mean, Zelenski's off somewhere.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: He was just off greeting heads of state somewhere. I
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: forget where, but I saw him getting oh oh yeah.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: There's been a lot of stuff in Europe and a
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: lot of stuff in the GCC because of the drone
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: technology Anti drone technology agreementsead of being built.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Alrighty, so we will try to find some good stories
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: for next week. But this week tiptoe ends badly yet realistically,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: the HRC and the UK in the UK had to
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: move because their offices were attacked New York launched a
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: fabulous gender affirming care clinic in Queens, but only if
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: you're over nineteen. The Mayor of Bucharest in Budapest, sorry,
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: is not going to be charged over supporting the twenty
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: twenty five Pride March. Barnsley Council in the UK said
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: they can no longer either Pride flag on the over
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: their town because in some way that'll make them have
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: less gays and the gayest song competition in the world, Eurovision,
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: has banned the Pride flag from their stage. That's this
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: week on this Gay News. Anything else that's off this week,
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: well then that's all for this week. Scott an ibiduous
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: civil ado. I am Corella. Be who you want to be,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: so long as it doesn't hurt anybody, and we shall
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: be back next week