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Belichick embarrassed, CyHawk position break down, Matt Snyder on MLB · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Hi, good afternoon. Welcome Miller and Condon on a
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  Tuesday, the Iowa Sports Radio Network, Iowa based programming
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  coming at you for the next 6 hours.
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  Trent Condon, myself, Ken Miller will start it and take it until
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  2 and then off the bench come Sean and Lucas two to five.
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  Overtime Iowa, the final hour of the broadcast day.
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  Here's what's coming up on our program.
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  We will talk baseball at 12:30. Our regular weekly guest, Matt
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  Snyder from CBSSports.com. He covers Major League Baseball.
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  We will do that at 12:30, shift him out of his 1:00 spot because
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  we're going to grab Elliott Clef from 24/7 Sports
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  hawkeyeinsider.com. We'll get Elliott prior to going
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  in to listen to Kirk Ference and after listening to some of the
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  players as they talk side Hawk and are in the midst of doing so
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  as we speak. So Elliott Clef coming up here
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  at 1:00. And then Bill Bender on college
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  football. He writes for The Sporting News.
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  He will join us coming up here at 1:30.
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  We'll take a look back. We'll look ahead where Bill
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  thoughts are after the first full week of college football,
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  where if you would have bet the underdogs blindly.
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  Did you see this? Dogs are under rather under on
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  every Division 1 college football game. 8080 up and 46
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  down 63.5%. I'm an underdog player.
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  I got walloped in week 1. Well, that's just unders unders.
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  Oh, unders unders. You gotcha in the.
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  Misheard you there. Yeah, well, I guess we should,
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  you know, put a bow on what the the weekend it was last night.
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  So what's what's what's more realistic?
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  North Carolina's really bad. TCU's really good little both.
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  Where are you at? I would go, North Carolina's
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  really bad. I mean, I think that's where the
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  conversation has to start. And embarrassing Trent.
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  Yeah, I completely out of it. Saw the tweet when it was 41
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  six, Which one? It was 41, six at the time, and
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  it said Bill Belichick was 41 when his girlfriend was 6.
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  No. Is that?
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  True. I don't know if it's true or
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  not, but it really made me chuckle.
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  At the very least, it was awful. Mm hmm.
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  And very quickly, you know, people thought what why, why
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  does Bill Belichick need to do this?
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  Why does he do it? This is tainting his legacy.
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  I agree. If this goes the direction that
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  it certainly looks, game number one, it's going, this is going
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  to taint it. And all the back and forth and
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  all the words that we wasted and the ink that was spilled about
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  is a Brady or is it Belichick? Brady went to Tampa and won a
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  Super Bowl. Now we're seeing this.
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  It was Tom Brady. And I think that can be right
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  now a pretty definitive statement that you can make.
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  I couldn't agree with him or look, college checks a really
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  good coach, but you have to have a quarterback, whatever level
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  you're at. And this yesterday it I I kind
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  of found myself at least in some feeling bad for the man.
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  I didn't not not like I'm not, you know, not going to cry or
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  anything like that, but I thought, Oh my God, what are you
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  doing? Why did you do this?
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  He didn't need to do this. It didn't make sense at the
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  time, although I thought it was going to work just because of
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  his name. But I mean, when do you think
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  Jordan left? How long was Lawrence Taylor
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  there? You know, they showed them
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  before the game. After the first touchdown.
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  You see what Coward tweeted? No, after the first touchdown.
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  All right, it's over. I've, I'm, I can go on.
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  I'm paraphrasing, but Bill Belichick is the second greatest
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  college football coach behind Nick Saban.
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  This was right after they scored and when they did as easy as
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  they went down the field and they holy.
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  Crap, Bamboo was chirping. Yes, he.
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  Was he was chirping, but everybody was holy mackerel.
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  Maybe, maybe this guy can, you know, walk on water and take his
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  team with them. But very quickly after that,
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  see, I thought you would say TCU give credit to them.
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  You've been hyping Hoover up all offseason, Trent.
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  I can see why this guy's really good.
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  I mean, in the quarterbacks that the Big 12 has and they've got a
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  bunch of them, he's on the list. Where do who are the top three
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  teams after we seen let's overreact, OK, let's do it.
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  Who are the top three teams in the Big 12?
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  Utah yes. Huge gap no.
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  Iowa State. Yes.
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  And then it gets tricky. Not for me it doesn't.
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  It's TCU for you. It's.
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  TCU for me. Yeah, that's not a crazy.
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  TCU gets Iowa State, Utah does not get either of them.
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  So the betting market right now, this is updated from DraftKings,
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  I'm looking. At So this is the Big 12
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  conference. This is to win the Big 12.
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  Utah's favored. Utah is favored, yeah.
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  Utah's favored. Plus 4:50 you can still get on
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  the let's. See some price.
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  TC was so recent. TC is second choice.
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  They're not. I've stayed this.
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  They're not. Who is Texas Tech now?
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  They were not tested. Nobody.
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  Right. But they were also came in as
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  one of the top three teams and odds aren't going to shift that
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  much, you wouldn't think. And they didn't do anything to
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  discredit. No, no, the only thing that the
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  only bad thing that they had was a weather.
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  Delay in their case, yes. So they are the second choice.
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  Then tied for the third betting choice are the Cyclones with
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  Arizona State. And TCU was what?
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  Plus 850. Tantalizing.
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  You like those horn this? Defense, Trent, they, they were
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  all over North Carolina. Hoover's Hoover.
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  They can run well, I guess. I think they can.
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  You got to take, I guess you have to take into consideration.
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  It's almost like they played in an FCS team.
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  They Trent, they were awful. 70 new players and it worked for
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  Dion. It did.
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  It didn't work in game number one for Belichick.
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  The rest of the league, Baylor 12:50.
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  You can get K State now at 19 to one.
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  A big drop down there. Here's another angle to look at
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  though, to make the conference championship.
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  I like this bet better. Now your betting favorite.
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  This one is not Utah. It's not.
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  It's the Iowa State Cyclones because they're one and O, they
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  got the one and O start and they're plus 230.
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  They're the betting favorite just to get to the game.
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  Texas Tech, the second choice, plus 250.
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  There's Utah plus 260 along with Arizona State, TCU just to get
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  there plus 380. So this market thinks there's
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  going to be two teams potentially from the Big 12.
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  No, this is to make the conference championship game.
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  Oh, the I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I thought you were talking about
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  make the playoffs. No Make the conference
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  championship. There you go, That that makes
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  sense then. Well, we'll see.
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  But man, oh man, I I found myself trying to find something
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  else to watch and the baseball was over.
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  It was not. Taken pretty terrible just got
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  awful anyways, the hype leading up to it, it was all North
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  Carolina and North and I get is Bill Belichick, but Sunny thanks
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  said after the game. Yeah, they were disrespected and
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  they used it. They used it two teams on the
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  field. We'll see where it goes.
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  By the way, Matt Campbell is already been named as a
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  potential replacement at the University of Alabama.
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  Oh wow. There's a a sports betting.
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  I think it's it's offshore. It's that's dot AG.
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  So that's offshore. Campbell's not the favorite by
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  any means, but he's on the list about in the Middle East, 18 to
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  one, just behind Jon Gruden at 14 to 1.
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  And I don't know, Dion's on there and Dillingham and Kiffin
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  and Tommy Reese's the favorite of three to one.
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  But anyways, Matt Campbell's made his first.
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  So what do they do over at WHOTV?
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  Something they watch the crap or something, something like that.
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  I don't know what it is. Anyways, good stuff.
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  Well, on we go to to Cyhawk. We'll be listening to coaches
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  today, Matt Campbell and I'm, I'm guessing Haycock spoke last
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  week. So probably Mauser today would
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  be my guess, but I don't know. And I think it's ongoing as we
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  speak. We'll get that and we'll get the
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  latest from the University of Iowa.
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  Any, any takeaways from when we got off the air 2:00 yesterday
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  to where we're at today when it comes to that?
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  You know, there was no surprise. We saw and we mentioned that no
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  Kamari Bolton on the depth chart.
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  Bryce George, how about that? Yeah, that happened before the
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  game, right? It happened during warmups.
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  He got in your end zone or in the other end.
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  Zone, I don't know where it was, but he just got injured during
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  war. Because they showed a picture of
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  him on his mic, moving away from microphone that's not good, on
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  his back and being attended to. We know Reese Vanderzee, he
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  wasn't on the depth chart. We know that that's going to be
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  a while. What we get a depth chart this
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  week? Because it was a surprise last
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  week that we got one from Iowa State.
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  From Iowa State. Well, it's not worth the paper
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  we've written on, right? He's just going to fib.
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  Right. I mean, are we going to see Burr
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  on there and not probably, yeah. If it is, you can't read
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  anything into it and there won't be anything there.
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  You. Can't listen to a word he says.
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  When it comes to injuries, yeah, no, you can't.
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  No, there. It's not truthful.
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  And that's his prerogative. So be it.
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  Not good for us, but that's the way that he runs his program and
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  it's been incredibly successful. So after a day to marinate.
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  There's Ben and Belcherk. Depthcher just had me the
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  positions listed, no players when we come in, open up the
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  microphone at noon yesterday and we go through.
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  Now here we are, 24 hours later. I do have a Hawker wife that I
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  forgot to mention. Yesterday.
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  OK, go ahead. Large.
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  Yeah. Played a little bit more.
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  He's played a little bit more. He's.
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  A big dude. He is.
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  He was full back and also does a little bit there in the passing
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  game. Yeah, he's going to be.
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  He's going to be a part of it. He is.
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  Yeah, he is. But is there anything that's
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  changed for you that you look back at Kornowski?
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  So I went back and watched it again last night.
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  And is he any better than you thought he was?
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  Watching it in person, watching Sunday night, Watched it again
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  last night. No, because so I kept reading,
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  you know, he was six of his last sizes.
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  So this is the reason. For how many?
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  Yards were and that's what it was.
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  Here were those passes. Yeah, because everybody's
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  bragging up his final seven pass.
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  Yeah, but he finished strong. Six for seven aren't Lay it on.
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  Me. So his first pass went 5 yards
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  downfield, 2 yards downfield. That was the touchdown to
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  Weichen, which is a better throw than I initially thought.
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  Was it? Yes, watching that again, that
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  was a good throw incompletion. He did throw down the field a
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  lot of yards. Pass caught in the backfield 3
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  yard gain the other pass caught in the backfield 2 yard gate.
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  He's on a roll. A pass 4 yards downfield and
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  then the last one, the 10 yard pass to Gill.
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  And that one was even. It was the pass to the bunch, I
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  guess, but it wasn't perfect by any means.
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  No, and this is what we're going to hang our hat on.
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  This is going to be. How we finish strong, yes, he'll
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  build on this. He'll build on this.
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  I kept reading it on the message for us.
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  I mean, the, the communist journalism here is that this is
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  what it is. No, that's not.
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  Again, go back and watch it. It wasn't just when he settled
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  in. There were opportunities.
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  He didn't take shots. And if this is a guy and this
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  was something that Kirk mentioned after the game that
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  maybe he was a little bit too hyped up and we've heard this
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  excuse coming in continually. If that's the case, if you are
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  that hyped up to play Albany against Albany, what's going to
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  happen Saturday at 1110? What's going to happen in Jack
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  Trice with 60,000? That is as confident of a bunch
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  as you are going to find. It's not going to go.
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  Well, and yet the what? What are the betting splits?
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  Have you seen those? That's a good. 1.
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  Because the point spread hasn't moved has.
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  It no, no it hasn't. It's three, or at least it was
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  3. Is it up to three, 3 1/2?
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  I expected it to move, not significantly, but at least move
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  in Iowa State's direction. Your updated splits, this is
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  from Wager Talk is yeah, it's three painted across the board.
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  Across the board. 60% of the tickets are on the Cyclones and
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  88% of the money is on Iowa State.
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  So. You're getting everything you're
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  getting, you're getting both sides.
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  Everything is coming that direction now.
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  The total is plummeted after the opener of 44 1/2 down to 43.
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  Now sits at 41 at Circa. So you know that that is going
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  to be an angle a lot of people are looking at.
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  I guess Iowa can't score, right? Can Iowa stop Rocco back?
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  I mean, that's the second question that I go to.
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  Trent, I wasn't sold on the secondary.
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  They didn't play much. I think that's how Iowa State
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  will beat them is through the. Air, I don't think that Iowa
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  State's going to be successful. Running it.
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  I don't. You know what I'm not.
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  I'm not sold on the running game.
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  You know who I think they're running.
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  Game success this season is predicated on Abu Sama.
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  I think it's him. Carson Hansen's going to try and
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  run three. I love his game.
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  He's a tough, nasty SOB, but Sama's a difference maker with
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  that speed of his. I think Abu Sama, if Iowa
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  State's going to be known as a team who has an adequate running
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  game, it has to be him. If we went position by position,
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  how many advantages does Iowa State?
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  Have well you mean or or position group like offensive
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  line, defensive? Yeah.
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  So we started quarterback huge, huge, huge advantage running
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  back slightly in Iowa, but without Moulton, it's hard to
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  say that yet. It was against Albany and.
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  I would agree with you if Moulton was there I'd I'd slight
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  slighted. But maybe slight edge.
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  Iowa State, Hanson and some have proven it.
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  Yeah, at the collegiate level, OK, but it's a coin flip.
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  Coin flip. I think you're arguing
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  semantics, wide receiver. Wide receiver.
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  Iowa State. Because the Townsend, what you
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  saw. Townsend Esselton Overby had a
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  touchdown against a. He did first game A.
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  Big 12 opponent. Yep, first touchdown of the.
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  Year and history, because we're still in the stages for Iowa.
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  We think that they're deeper, but they're also without
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  Vanderzee. There's another demerit against
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  the Hawkeyes. And then without a quarterback
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  who wants to throw the ball down the field?
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  At minimum, slight edge Iowa State.
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  Let's go to tight end. It's Iowa State.
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  It's Iowa State, and it's not close.
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  It's not. It's not.
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  How many times have we said that?
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  The last two. Days, right?
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  This was the day Mark the tape. And it is.
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  It is. And if that's just what number?
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  No, there's got other guys. Yes.
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  Is that number 2-3 and four? Also, I think you point to Iowa
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  State offensive line advantage, Iowa.
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  Yeah, it is. I'm with you.
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  Yeah, I'm with you. Advantage Iowa.
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  So we just went through the four positions on the offense. 3 Iowa
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  State, one for the Hawkeyes. Defensively now Dom Orange is a
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  number one at the top of the. He's in a different class.
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  But when you're talking about as a whole group, it's Iowa.
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  It's Iowa. Yep.
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  Linebackers. It's Iowa State.
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  And it's not close. It's not close.
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  It's not close at all. Secondary, It's Iowa State.
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  It's Iowa State. Kicker.
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  It's Drew Stevens, but you know what, Conradi I mean with that
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  63 yarder. Trend.
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  It's not. It's closer than you maybe think
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  it is, because Drew Stevens is tremendous.
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  And if you would ask me this after week 1 of what I said,
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  come on. And we're giving the advantage
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  to the opposite of the guy that hit the game winner 50 plus last
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  year. Yeah, so.
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  It's not. Maybe by an inch, Yes.
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  Advantage, but not a big one. No butter, Iowa.
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  Iowa. Return game.
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  It's Iowa. It's Iowa.
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  But maybe again, it's not as big as you think.
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  Yeah, but region's region is. He's so good he won Returner of
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  the Year of the country. Last night he's so.
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  Good give advantage there. Yeah, but how many times have we
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  gone position by position stacking it up?
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  And it's usually a lot of at least Iowa leans.
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  That's not the case. This year we leaned running
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  back. We gave them both trenches,
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  offensive and defensive line. But we took a Dom Orange out
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  because she's on another level. We linebackers huge, secondary
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  huge and the numbers 3. But it's a rivalry.
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  Yeah, and and and Campbell has not beaten Ference there.
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  That's right, got to go back to 2011, which was an incredible
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  game. Was that all the overtimes?
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  That was 4441, just a a tremendous football game that
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  was so much fun. And a phenomenal picture in the
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  register. That's right, right.
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  The game-winning diving in. Yes, the game-winning touchdown.
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  Phenomenal picture in what used to be a newspaper.
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  Actually, she used to come to your door or you go to the a
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  convenience store or high V had stacks of but you had to get
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  there early because they'd sell out.
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  The last time that Iowa State's won this game by more than a
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  field goal, you know when that was.
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  The last time, say it again. Iowa State's won this game by
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  more than a field goal. Four more points.
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  It wasn't the 1st. One.
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  No, no, it wasn't that one. Not that far back.
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  Not 97. What year was it?
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  20 years ago 2005 Top 10 Iowa making their way to Jack tries
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  through take take it's not. Down on the right side of the.
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  Aisle 23 Three The final of that one.
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  That was the last time the Cyclones won by.
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  More than 3? Isn't that something?
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  I think we're trending to the cyclones winning by more than
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  three of this one. But I feel the same way.
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  I picked Iowa before the season. I just thought it was their turn
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  based on nothing more than that because it is usually a you win,
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  we win, you win, we win type of deal.
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  I'm not saying that me or I'm not a we, I want to make that
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  clear. But yeah, it looks if if I had
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  to, you know, if I was forced to bet, I would bet Iowa State
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  right now. I think Rocco Beck might be the
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  biggest edge in the game when it comes to the positions Mark
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  Gronowski's played in championship games.
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  Didn't look like a champion. It was awful.
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  It was awful how bad it is. Some of the shows are getting
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  calls from because we're statewide.
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  Now, yeah, yeah. You know you guys are on in.
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  Iowa City? Yeah, exactly.
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  And we're going to call a spade a spade.
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  Advertisers can't be happy with what they're hearing.
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  I'm never, I'm never going to frequent any of those places.
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  Welcome to sports talk radio. Yes, this is not, Yeah,
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  university based programming. No, that's not what this is.
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  Yeah, this is actually telling what we see and what we feel.
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  That's what we do here. You know, that's funny.
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  All right, we're going to talk baseball.
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  When we come back, we'll get back to the football.
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  Matt Snyder on MLB coming up just quick.
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  George Raveling passed away. What a life, What a life long
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  life. But Jordan says without him,
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  there would not be any Air Jordan because it was George
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  Raveling who kept chirping to him and to his family.
• 18:48
  You got to go to Nike, you got to go to Nike, you got to go to
• 18:50
  Nike. And that's obviously ultimately
• 18:53
  the decision that they made. And that worked out well for
• 18:55
  both Nike and for the Jordan family.
• 18:58
  But how long did they stay at the game last night?
• 19:01
  You know, the cutaways? They didn't.
• 19:03
  They were before the game after the first drive and never saw
• 19:05
  him again afterwards. I wonder when they left snuck
• 19:09
  out. There, you stick around and
• 19:11
  you're just BS in with some people you know too.
• 19:13
  I guess maybe it's not even about the football game at that
• 19:15
  point. It's about everything else.
• 19:17
  George Raveling. My memories of George Raveling,
• 19:20
  they're very, very famous because.
• 19:21
  He was what, in the mid 80s? Mid 80s so really, and it's
• 19:25
  probably his final season that I remember the only thing that I.
• 19:28
  Remember 86 or 87. It was the 8586 season.
• 19:31
  Yeah, because 8687 was Doctor Tom's first, the Elite Eight
• 19:34
  team. And I just remember, and it's
• 19:37
  funny in this day and age and hearing you complain about
• 19:39
  people that have to dress up for work as my grandpa did not like
• 19:43
  that. He wore a jumpsuit on the
• 19:44
  sideline. He did.
• 19:45
  He did not. He despised that.
• 19:48
  Looked like a ball. Coach put on a suit and tie.
• 19:51
  My grandpa did not like that. He was not all well.
• 19:55
  And he came off of Loot too. And Loot was well dressed.
• 20:00
  Well liked? Yep.
• 20:02
  Not just by fans. By both.
• 20:03
  And by the female fans. Yep.
• 20:05
  Without a doubt and. Remember here my grandma talk
• 20:06
  about that too. She miss loot Doctor Todd was
• 20:09
  not the same kind of look and but George Raffling what a life
• 20:13
  what a career having being there for Martin Luther King yes and
• 20:19
  getting the speech the I have a dream speech right.
• 20:22
  He had that he did throughout his career.
• 20:25
  Great accomplishment and and a lot of great memories.
• 20:27
  Yeah, no doubt about it. I didn't know that about the the
• 20:30
  style address on the sidelines. Or a jumpsuit.
• 20:33
  The maybe the maybe the one of the few good things that came
• 20:36
  out of the COVID air for my money is coach is no longer for
• 20:38
  a shirt and tie and when they're coaching hoops anyways, take
• 20:41
  your time. I'll come back with talk some
• 20:42
  baseball with our friend Matt Snyder, CBSSports.com.
• 20:45
  Our weekly baseball segment is next.
• 20:47
  Elliot Clough coming up in hour number two.
• 20:49
  Likewise, Bill Bender, Miller and Condon underway on a
• 20:53
  Tuesday. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
• 20:54
  Network. By 12:30 on a Tuesday, Miller in
• 21:03
  Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network, Trent and I with you
• 21:07
  until two hour #2 Elliott cleft between listening to Hawkeye
• 21:11
  players. I saw Mark Gronowski was one of
• 21:13
  those players that met the media, so we'll get an update on
• 21:15
  that. And prior to listening to Kirk,
• 21:17
  Ference Elliott will join us at one Bill Bennett from The
• 21:19
  Sporting News at 1:30. Let's talk some baseball right
• 21:22
  now. We do it each and every week
• 21:24
  with our friend Matt Snyder, CBSSports.com, where he covers
• 21:28
  Major League Baseball and he joins us.
• 21:30
  Well, you're in my books. My bad books because last time
• 21:33
  we I grudgingly went to talk about my Blue Jays and the
• 21:36
  bullpen. And since since we've talked,
• 21:39
  they've lost four games and the bullpen has blown three of
• 21:42
  those. It's just awful right now.
• 21:45
  And there's no. Yeah.
• 21:46
  And the the Yankees and Red Sox are creeping on up there.
• 21:51
  They are out both of them. They've got one series against
• 21:54
  both of them. So you could look at that as
• 21:57
  it's an opportunity to take care of business on your own and bury
• 21:59
  them. But obviously there's the fear
• 22:02
  that the teams, the challengers win those theories and creep
• 22:06
  even closer. So it's going to be interesting
• 22:09
  to see that division. Let's look at the Yankees in
• 22:12
  particular in the next two weeks.
• 22:15
  They've got Astros, Tigers, Blue Jays and Red Sox.
• 22:19
  Good. So that is a gauntlet.
• 22:23
  Of course, from the Yankees perspective, you can say, you
• 22:25
  know, if they go through and they play well, they could,
• 22:29
  well, they could well have the best record in the American
• 22:31
  League at the end of it. But if things fall off the
• 22:33
  rails, they could also be kind of barely even clinging to a
• 22:37
  playoff spot. And the Rangers are only a game
• 22:39
  and a half out of that last playoff spot right now.
• 22:41
  So very interesting to watch in the next few weeks.
• 22:45
  But yeah, the Blue Jays, the bullpen is definitely concerning
• 22:50
  because the rotation looks like it's OK.
• 22:52
  The lineup still looks very, very good.
• 22:55
  Got to try to hold it together for another 3-4 weeks there with
• 22:59
  that bullpen. How much is Boba Check going to
• 23:01
  make? Is he number two behind?
• 23:04
  It's hard. To Tucker right now, you think?
• 23:07
  I think so, yeah. And it's difficult because he
• 23:13
  was so, so, so good. And then last year was just a
• 23:16
  disaster. Injury riddled Andy was
• 23:18
  terrible. But this year he's back to
• 23:21
  basically the exact same guy he was.
• 23:23
  And this is his highest batting average in a full season.
• 23:27
  So not as much power. Like, I think when you're
• 23:32
  heading into free agency, you'd like to see him up around 30
• 23:34
  home runs. He's probably going to end up
• 23:36
  around 20. But I mean, leading the majors
• 23:38
  in hits, leading the majors in double S, hitting over 300, he's
• 23:42
  back to being that very, very productive guy.
• 23:46
  Shortstop. We've seen a lot of shortstops
• 23:48
  break the bank recently. I mean, you can go down to like
• 23:51
  Dansby Swanson and Javi Baez. Like there's a lot of guys who
• 23:54
  have made Xander Bogart's got an 11 year deal, like Corey Seeger
• 23:57
  and Marcus Simeon got huge deals and Bichette's 27.
• 24:01
  So yeah, I mean, over 200 for sure, right?
• 24:06
  Like 250. I'm even thinking like you might
• 24:10
  see 300 million. Monster money and a guy that is
• 24:15
  wigging it well, seeing it. Well, Speaking of that division,
• 24:18
  the way it's set right now, we would get potentially, you know,
• 24:21
  red soxy. I mean, if baseball could sign
• 24:24
  up for that again, they got Dodgers, Yankees, of course, in
• 24:26
  the World Series, if they could get a playoff series again,
• 24:28
  because, you know, we remember 2004, remember everything else.
• 24:32
  It's just not at the same kind of level.
• 24:34
  If they could get something like that, Major League Baseball
• 24:37
  would have to sign up to get another Yankees Red Sox series.
• 24:41
  Absolutely. And I'm sure in their heart of
• 24:43
  hearts, like if you injected them with truth theorem, they
• 24:46
  would rather it somehow let's mess that up and have one of
• 24:49
  them won the division. So maybe you can get an ALCS
• 24:52
  that maybe goes seven games because the only bad thing about
• 24:55
  getting them in the wild card round is it would only be 3
• 24:58
  games. So like, man, we need to try to
• 25:00
  milk this thing. But yeah, I mean, if Red Sox,
• 25:03
  Yankees class series would be amazing.
• 25:05
  I don't feel like it's over saturated at this point because
• 25:09
  we haven't seen them in the playoffs much since the early
• 25:12
  2000s. I I believe one time was it
• 25:16
  2018, I think there was Red Sox, Yankees and and and LD ALDS.
• 25:22
  So we like we haven't seen it a ton.
• 25:24
  It hasn't been done to death anymore.
• 25:27
  So yeah, that that would be pretty fun.
• 25:28
  Yeah, the networks would love it.
• 25:30
  No, no doubt about that. Let's let's go to the West and
• 25:33
  just spend and spend a minute kind of talking about that
• 25:36
  division in Houston right now has the the what, three games in
• 25:40
  front? Mariners, Texas, any of those
• 25:44
  two, who do you like to perhaps run them down?
• 25:47
  Rangers won't go away. Mariners, they just kind of spin
• 25:51
  their wheels when I watch them. Are will the Astros ultimately
• 25:54
  win? Or are are they, you know,
• 25:56
  looking over their shoulder? I think the Astros will win it.
• 26:01
  If I had to pick one to run down, it would be the Mariners
• 26:03
  that. But they have they have a lineup
• 26:07
  that should perform pretty well. I know that gets the press when
• 26:10
  they're at home, but the rotation for the Mariners, it's
• 26:13
  supposed to be one of their calling cards.
• 26:15
  And it has not been very good since the trade deadline at all.
• 26:18
  Like Louise Castillo is broken right now.
• 26:21
  You know, they're not getting what they thought they were
• 26:24
  going to get from someone like, let's say, Bryce Miller, who's
• 26:28
  been bad pretty much all year, George Kirby, Logan Gilbert, not
• 26:31
  near as good as they were hoping.
• 26:33
  Basically, Brian Wu is the one who is throwing well.
• 26:36
  And everybody else is like either average or just looking,
• 26:40
  like I said, broken like Louise Luis Castillo does.
• 26:42
  But they have enough talent they could pull together in the
• 26:46
  rotation there. And I still really, really like
• 26:48
  that line up. I mean, since they added Naylor
• 26:51
  and Eugenio Suarez to Randy Razzarena, Julio Rodriguez,
• 26:54
  who's looks really good at the second-half, Cal Raleigh, that's
• 26:58
  a good line up there. So I still have faith that the
• 27:01
  Mariners could get hot. It just feels like, as you said,
• 27:04
  anytime they get right up on the Astros, then they kind of fall
• 27:07
  apart for a little short stretch there.
• 27:09
  So it just doesn't seem like it's meant to be.
• 27:11
  Still not throwing dirt on the Royals.
• 27:13
  I I feel like there's still a chance there.
• 27:15
  This team offense. 2 1/2 games they were. 29th in baseball and
• 27:23
  run scored in home runs going into the All Star break.
• 27:25
  Since then, they're up to 12th in runs scored, eighth in home
• 27:28
  runs. Pasquotino has been outstanding.
• 27:31
  I'll be obviously Bobby Witt is who he is.
• 27:33
  Garcia, he's been tremendous and and Garcia's just 25 years old.
• 27:37
  I mean, it just feels like a guy that's been around a whole lot
• 27:39
  longer than that. Even if it doesn't happen for
• 27:41
  this season, it feels like the the base is in place that this
• 27:45
  is going to be a team in contention next year.
• 27:46
  Do you see it that way? Absolutely, yes.
• 27:49
  And how about Mike Yastrzemski, 34 year old?
• 27:51
  They pick him up at the trade deadline.
• 27:53
  Seven home runs since then in 27 games.
• 27:57
  It's unbelievable. He's getting on base, but he's
• 27:59
  also heading for power. It's like he's freed from, you
• 28:03
  know what, Oracle Park or whatever they call it, San
• 28:05
  Francisco now. They would interest me a lot
• 28:11
  more if the rotation looked like we thought it was going to look
• 28:16
  heading into the year. And that would be with both Cole
• 28:19
  Reagan's and Chris Boobich in the rotation there instead of
• 28:22
  them having to try to piece together.
• 28:23
  But like, Noah Cameron has been really, really good.
• 28:26
  Seth Lugo still Seth Lugo. And they grabbed Ryan Berger
• 28:29
  from the Padres in front of the trade deadline and he's doing
• 28:32
  well, too. So it's they've got a really
• 28:36
  good thing going right now. And yeah, I agree with you,
• 28:39
  Trent, I don't think we can count them out at all.
• 28:42
  The American League is, and I wrote about this in power
• 28:44
  rankings today, a couple weeks ago, I said, OK, there's a clear
• 28:47
  cut top 2. We've been saying all year it's
• 28:49
  wide open. But now the Blue Jays, Tigers
• 28:52
  have separated themselves. Well, now they've both kind of
• 28:55
  come back a little bit. And I think again, you can
• 28:56
  declare the American League is completely wide open.
• 29:00
  There are the six teams in playoff position right now.
• 29:02
  Would not surprise you if they went to the world theory.
• 29:05
  And I think then you could loop, loop in the Rangers and Royals
• 29:08
  as well and say, you know, they've got a shot and if you
• 29:10
  make it, you've got a shot to go to the World Series because
• 29:13
  there are Achilles heels with every big team.
• 29:16
  Like the Tigers rotation behind school ball is terrible right
• 29:19
  now. The Blue Jays, as we already
• 29:21
  discussed, the bullpens in shambles.
• 29:23
  So it's the Astros continue to have their fair share of
• 29:26
  problems. It's.
• 29:27
  Wide open what? How about the National League?
• 29:29
  Is it wide open? Yeah, probably.
• 29:32
  I'm not not as not to the same extent because you could see
• 29:37
  we've seen how good the Brewers can be and the Phillies
• 29:42
  obviously losing Wheeler is a big, big blow, but it still
• 29:46
  feels like the Brewers, Phillies and Dodgers could go into
• 29:49
  powerhouse mode in October. No, Padres don't Nah, they just
• 29:54
  don't slug. And I'm worried about the
• 29:56
  rotation, like King still hurt, don't see is still unreliable.
• 30:01
  Only the Pirates have fewer home runs than the Padres this season
• 30:05
  and the entire majors, not just the NL.
• 30:08
  So I, yeah, you know, and maybe the Cubs could too.
• 30:11
  But there's just been so many up and down, ups and downs.
• 30:14
  I just feel like there's a lot more the, the, the upside is a
• 30:19
  lot higher in the National League with a few of those teams
• 30:22
  where it looks like, remember how the Astros went gangbusters
• 30:25
  through the Ala couple of years ago when they went seven and O
• 30:27
  on the AL side? I believe it's 2022.
• 30:30
  Feels like at least three, maybe even four teams on the National
• 30:34
  League could do that. And then the American League
• 30:36
  side, I just don't see that at all.
• 30:38
  Should the Cubs be concerned about Polencia at the back end
• 30:41
  bullpen? His his his disappointing
• 30:43
  audience have become when there hasn't been a save on the line.
• 30:47
  He's come in a tie game in the 9th inning.
• 30:49
  Hasn't gone well, but I don't think he's been the same guy
• 30:51
  since late June. Still pretty good.
• 30:55
  There's it just it doesn't seem like he knows where it's going a
• 30:58
  lot of time, especially with the fastball.
• 30:59
  Like it almost feels like he overthrows, which I can't judge
• 31:02
  that I'm I don't know if he's overthrowing or not.
• 31:04
  I'm just saying it looks like it when he throws it 101 and it's,
• 31:08
  you know, the catcher setting up blowing away and it ends up high
• 31:10
  and it just seems like he's just throwing it as hard as he can
• 31:13
  and he doesn't have any command on it.
• 31:15
  And meanwhile, Brad Keller is as reliable as any reliever right
• 31:19
  now. So I could see a little switch
• 31:22
  there. The only issue is then, well, if
• 31:24
  you were shaky in the with Palencia now and you flip them
• 31:27
  now, you're shaky in the 8th. So it's like, did we really
• 31:30
  solve the problem there? But yeah, I I mean, I'll admit
• 31:35
  when he comes in and it's only a one run game, I kind of get that
• 31:39
  gulp, uh oh, what's going to happen here?
• 31:41
  Feeling. What's going on with PCA?
• 31:45
  The power's been completely sapped.
• 31:47
  He's always going to be a Big Whip fastball, yes.
• 31:49
  What's going on there with PCA? I think he was probably just way
• 31:54
  better in the first half than he should have been.
• 31:56
  And there's just course corrections all over the place
• 31:58
  here. I mean, remember heading into
• 32:00
  the year, I believe you guys asked me like, what's his
• 32:03
  offensive upside? And I said maybe around league
• 32:06
  average, batting average and 2015 to 20 home runs.
• 32:09
  We hit over 20 in the first half and most people in the scouting
• 32:13
  community didn't think he was ever going to hit 30, You know,
• 32:16
  and he's probably going to hit 30 maybe.
• 32:18
  I mean, it sounds weird when he has 28, but he might not hit two
• 32:20
  more the rest of the year. But it's to be talking about him
• 32:24
  as a possible 4040 guy at the All Star break.
• 32:27
  We probably should have seen it coming that nobody thought he
• 32:30
  was going to be this good of a hitter, and certainly not this
• 32:33
  soon. If it was ever, hey, he might
• 32:35
  hit 35 home runs in a season. I think he would have said, OK,
• 32:39
  well, that's by the time he's 2829, thirty years old, not when
• 32:42
  he's 23. So honestly, he was probably
• 32:45
  just too good in the first half. And this is just the kind of the
• 32:49
  baseball gods and the marathon that is the Major League
• 32:52
  Baseball season coming for him. Love it.
• 32:54
  MVP of this team is who? I still think it's probably PCA.
• 33:01
  Do you? Because you have to take the
• 33:03
  whole whole whole picture of the season.
• 33:05
  Could I interest you in Nico Horner?
• 33:09
  Yeah, he's definitely he's so reliable defensively and on the
• 33:15
  bases as well. I would go, I would go PCA if I
• 33:19
  look at the whole picture because one of the reasons the
• 33:21
  Cubs were so good in the first half was because it was so much
• 33:24
  better than expectations. And even not being a good since
• 33:27
  the All Star break, you don't give all that back.
• 33:30
  But yeah, I Nico's in the mix. You know who else might be?
• 33:33
  And actually if you if you look at I just clicked on the Cubs to
• 33:36
  look at WAR PCA first, Nico 2nd and then Tuckers third, Dairies
• 33:41
  4th. How?
• 33:42
  About Carson Kelly the year, he said.
• 33:44
  Surprise. Well, yeah, he was so good in
• 33:48
  the first two months or so, and then he was still good yesterday
• 33:51
  as well. In between, Not so much.
• 33:53
  True, he had eleven home runs in like 2 months and now he has 14.
• 33:58
  But like the Cubs, what they've gotten from the catcher position
• 34:01
  as a whole this year, mostly Carson Kelly, but also
• 34:06
  production from Reese McGuire when he's been there.
• 34:08
  Production from Miguel Amaya at the start of the year before he
• 34:10
  got hurt and then he came back, got hurt again.
• 34:12
  The Cubs have gotten so much from catcher and the last couple
• 34:16
  years they had been one of the worst teams in baseball at
• 34:18
  production behind the plate. So that's another area where
• 34:21
  along with PCA where they got so much more than they were
• 34:25
  expecting. Saw the Cardinals head in
• 34:27
  attendance under 20,000 for the first time and I think it was
• 34:30
  eons. But what do you do with that
• 34:33
  organization? They said for the last couple of
• 34:35
  years, we're not going to tear this thing down.
• 34:37
  Is it time? Is it time to really go into
• 34:40
  true true rebuild mode? Well, they probably, in terms of
• 34:45
  salaries keeping them down and staying cheap, yeah, I think
• 34:48
  they can do that. But they have a lot of talent
• 34:53
  that's younger, you know, between, you know, Mason, when
• 34:57
  Victor Scott, Yvonne Herrera, those guys are all 25 or less
• 35:01
  right now. Maybe there's still a chance
• 35:03
  with Jordan Walker, who's still 23.
• 35:05
  Maybe there's still a chance with Nolan Gorman who's 25.
• 35:07
  Like they have guys early mid 20s who look like they're pretty
• 35:12
  talented players and they can build around those guys.
• 35:15
  I think they need to just not bother with the veterans.
• 35:18
  Like let's say for example, a couple years ago and it looks
• 35:21
  fine at the time, but Sonny Gray signing, they probably don't
• 35:24
  need to do that for a few more years.
• 35:26
  They need to just stick with the youth movement, keep the
• 35:29
  salaries down and build up the farm system.
• 35:31
  And they're probably in that mode.
• 35:32
  So tear down might not be the right phrase.
• 35:36
  But yeah, I would say that don't be one of those teams that's
• 35:40
  trying to contend by signing some veterans that are more
• 35:44
  expensive. I think you just need to say
• 35:46
  we're playing for 2027 or 2028 going into next year.
• 35:51
  My last thing for you and and it seems like it's inevitable, but
• 35:55
  there's about to be this offseason a former number one
• 35:58
  overall pick on the market. That's Adly Rushman, who if I
• 36:02
  was still buying rookie baseball cards as something to put away
• 36:05
  and hopefully the value goes. I thought rushman was going to
• 36:08
  be any type of player and he stillwell may be, but these
• 36:11
  aren't seemingly, but Basalo's taking his spot right be.
• 36:13
  They gave him all the money. Rushman then width and Andrew
• 36:16
  Vaughn was 123. What's happened to adly rushman?
• 36:20
  He seemed like he was headed to Cooperstown when he broke in.
• 36:23
  It was. Yeah, around the All Star break
• 36:26
  last year, he just stopped hitting.
• 36:28
  He was terrible in the second-half last year and that's
• 36:31
  carried over into this year. And you're looking right now at
• 36:33
  227 batting average, sub 400 slugging.
• 36:37
  His slugging last year fell down under 400 as well.
• 36:39
  Like I said, with that terrible second-half.
• 36:41
  So we're we're more than a year of him being just broken at the
• 36:46
  plate. Maybe a change of scenery is
• 36:48
  needed. He's a switch hitter.
• 36:51
  He he he's fine as a receiver behind the plate.
• 36:54
  But it it looked like he was going to be a superstar.
• 36:57
  I mean, he finished 10th in MVP voting in 2023, finished ninth,
• 37:01
  top 10, ninth in MVP voting in 2023 and was still great in the
• 37:06
  first half last year. But ever since then, he's
• 37:08
  completely falling apart. Yeah.
• 37:11
  And. And The thing is, he's not as
• 37:13
  young as a lot of people might think.
• 37:15
  He's 27. Why do?
• 37:17
  You realize that? Yeah, he was.
• 37:20
  When they drafted him, he was already old for a college player
• 37:24
  and he was 24 when he got to the bigs, so he did not.
• 37:27
  We're used to seeing these debuts in 20/21/22.
• 37:30
  He didn't debut till 24. So yeah, he's 27 years old.
• 37:33
  It's concerning. I would be interested to see if
• 37:38
  the Orioles did kind of put him on the market.
• 37:41
  You would think a lot of teams would be interested and think
• 37:43
  that they could fix him offensively and he's good behind
• 37:46
  the plate. He's a switch hitter, seems like
• 37:48
  a good clubhouse guy, but he just stopped hitting.
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  He's completely stopped hitting. And we have to stop talking
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  because we've gone over our break time.
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  We got to do this next week as we will.
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  Matt Snyder, thanks for jumping on today.
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  Appreciate it, brother. Have a great week, I'm Millie
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  Congan, welcome back. Final minute hour number one
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  hour #2 Elliot Cleff and Bill Bender.
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  So Joe Montana was asked, you can't take Brock Purdy.
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  OK, give me 3 quarterbacks that the next three quarterbacks that
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  you would take, who do you think he said, Lamar Jackson, You
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  can't take these. You can't take Purdy.
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  Give me the next three, your favorite 3.
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  Like in the whole NFL. No.
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  Right now, in the whole NFL? Yep.
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  Lamar Jackson? Nope.
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  Jordan Love? Nope.
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  Joe Montani, Can I have anybody in the league?
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  Well. I'm I'm baffled, who is it?
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  He wants Josh Allen, OK. He wants Joe Burrow.
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  Sure. Justin Herbert.
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  No Patrick Mahomes. No Patrick Mahomes.
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  All right. Well, Joe?
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  Pretty good ones. Go ahead of him.
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  I mean, you know, like Mahomes is on any list.
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  He's also not a quarterback evaluator.
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  Just because you're a good quarterback doesn't mean as you
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  know. As I will know.
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  With you, with Elway. Right.
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  Who decided? You know why?
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  We're gonna take Bradley Chubb, This Allen guy, we'll let him go
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  to Buffalo. He would have wasted away in
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  Denver. He would have wasted away in
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  Denver. Nope, he wouldn't have Super
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  Bowls one after another. Nope, that's all right.
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  We got our guy Bo Dicks hour 2 coming up next Elliott Clef on
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  Iowa. You better get a win in week
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  one, boy. That's.
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  Or you're playing him and survived.
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  By Survivor pick for Circa OK. Well, you're right.
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  You better get a win in Week 1. Let's go pony Ellie Clough and
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  Bill Bender, our two next Miller and Condon, Iowa Sports Radio
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  Network.