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Hour 2 - Turn the Page · The Ben Maller Show

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Speaker 1: Oh, what is going on?
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Speaker 2: I hope you're early Friday morning festivities or grand hope
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Speaker 2: everything's going well.
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Speaker 1: I want to get to in a few minutes. It
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Speaker 1: was a very.
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Speaker 2: Popular opinion a few months ago, and it's turned out
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Speaker 2: to be completely wrong.
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Speaker 1: A lot of.
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Speaker 2: People were saying this over and over and over. Popular
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Speaker 2: opinion has been completely wrong. I'll give you that just
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Speaker 2: a couple of minutes here, But I want to start off.
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Speaker 2: We got another sex toy on the court of a
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Speaker 2: WNBA game. Now, this is the fourth sex toy that
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Speaker 2: has reached the court of a WNBA game. Now, there
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Speaker 2: are a couple of layers here. I didn't realize what
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Speaker 2: was going on. I'm like, wait a minute. So over
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Speaker 2: the last week and a half, there have been four
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Speaker 2: sex toys that have been thrown onto a WNBA court
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Speaker 2: during the game. Okay, what I didn't realize was all
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Speaker 2: of the sex toys that were thrown at WNBA games
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Speaker 2: that didn't reach the court. Because I'm looking at this
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, I'm looking at all this information.
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Speaker 2: It's just all kinds of stuff. I'm not gonna bombard
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Speaker 2: you with all of these things, but a couple of
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Speaker 2: them are kind of interesting, as best I can tell,
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Speaker 2: And I tried to research this as best I can.
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Speaker 1: It's it's tough.
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Speaker 2: It's like you ever see a beautiful mind where Russell
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Speaker 2: Crowe is kind of losing his mind and he's like, oh,
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Speaker 2: this connects to that and this means this, And that's
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Speaker 2: how I was trying to figure out the timeline of
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Speaker 2: the sex toys being thrown on WNBA courts. This is
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Speaker 2: the best I can tell. So I believe this started
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Speaker 2: back on July twenty ninth, so a little more than
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Speaker 2: a week ago. It was Tuesday to twenty ninth. It
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Speaker 2: was the Valkyries and the Dream. There was a man
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Speaker 2: that was arrested, Delbert Carver, twenty three years old, threw
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Speaker 2: a sex toy on the court. Now he was arrested
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Speaker 2: and charged with get this, those in all these charges
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Speaker 2: disorderly conduct, public in indecency, slash, indecent exposure, and criminal trespass.
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Speaker 1: Sounds like a lot of stuff.
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Speaker 2: Like I'm no lawyer, I don't know, if you know
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Speaker 2: he's found guilty all across the board what that means.
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Speaker 2: But that's a lot of stuff to be charged with.
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Speaker 2: I know that much, and so I'm piecing this together. Okay,
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Speaker 2: it happened a couple of nights later, Friday, August first,
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Speaker 2: Valkyri's Chicago Sky Game.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: Then I'm like, wait a minute, something's weird with August fifth.
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Speaker 2: So this is Tuesday, August fifth, one week after the
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Speaker 2: first sex toy was thrown on the court. Okay, and
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Speaker 2: so I'm reading this story about an eighteen year old
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Speaker 2: who was arrested. He tried to throw a dildo on
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Speaker 2: the court. Didn't make it, you know, didn't reach the court.
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Speaker 2: It hit like an uncle and the niece, like a
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Speaker 2: nine year old niece or something like at these two people.
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Speaker 2: It didn't make it onto the court. This guy was tackled,
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Speaker 2: you know, he was arrested, the whole thing. And he
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Speaker 2: said the eighteen year old, this guy named Caden Lopez,
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Speaker 2: he told officers. He was like, it's just a stupid
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Speaker 2: prank that I was that was trending on social media.
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Speaker 2: He apologized that I'm sorry, I was just following this
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Speaker 2: stupid prank. That's what it is, like, go back to
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Speaker 2: when you were eighteen. Now, I wasn't like dildo thrown
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Speaker 2: on the court stupid during a game.
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Speaker 1: When I was eighteen, but it's pretty freaking stupid.
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Speaker 2: And if there was something that, oh, it's just the
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Speaker 2: new thing to do, I probably would have been like,
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Speaker 2: oh cool.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It's like there's plenty of things I've done at eighteen
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Speaker 2: years old that were completely dumb, and looking back.
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Speaker 1: Like, what the hell was I thinking? That's what's happening here?
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Speaker 2: But that happened at a Connecticut Son Phoenix Mercury game.
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Speaker 2: All right, wait a minute, didn't That same night there
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Speaker 2: was a sex toy that hit Sophie Cunningham of the
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Speaker 2: Indiana Fever, And.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute.
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Speaker 2: On that same night, August fifth, there was another sex
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Speaker 2: toy thrown at the Wings Liberty game, and that sex
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Speaker 2: toy didn't reach the court. So on the same night
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Speaker 2: there were three different games. I didn't realize any of this.
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Speaker 2: I'm piecing it together, like, wait, okay, we got the
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Speaker 2: section of this is the fourth sex toy that has
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Speaker 2: reached the court, But there's another like sub section of
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Speaker 2: sex toys that are thrown at games that haven't reached
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Speaker 2: the court, but they were thrown nevertheless, Like I'm like,
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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I didn't realize all all this stuff
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Speaker 2: is happening. But that's where we are. I don't know
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Speaker 2: what the official count is. There are at least four
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Speaker 2: sex toys that have made it onto the court, which
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Speaker 2: is stupid and dangerous. It hits Sophie Cunningham. It could
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Speaker 2: have been way worse that the trend like the fun
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Speaker 2: is over. At least that's how I see it. Maybe
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Speaker 2: you look at the first one like oh wow that,
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Speaker 2: or it hits Sophie Cunningham and you're like, wow, that's
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Speaker 2: kind of a coincidence. She put it out there on
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Speaker 2: X like stop doing this, and then she's the one
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Speaker 2: who gets hit by it. And to me, the fun
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Speaker 2: is over, if there ever was any fun, the fun
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Speaker 2: is officially over.
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Speaker 1: This is dumb. It's played out. It's not even like
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Speaker 1: oh wow, Like.
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Speaker 2: The whole shock value of it is worn off, like
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Speaker 2: the betting aspect of you could bet.
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Speaker 1: On the color of the next one to reach the court.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: To me, the whole thing is just like what are
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Speaker 2: we doing at this point? Like this thing is done?
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Speaker 2: Like this is the equivalent of well, I don't even know.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to make it the exact same thing,
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Speaker 2: but you know, when something gets played out where it
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Speaker 2: was cool for a month for someone to say, Oh,
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Speaker 2: he's all that and a bag of ship, and then
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Speaker 2: someone said it like months later that it was a
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Speaker 2: completely outdated No, we're not doing that anymore. Man's It's
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Speaker 2: like someone shows up to the party now and dabs
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Speaker 2: and you're like, Wow, dude, that's that way, or no, man,
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Speaker 2: that's not the thing.
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Speaker 1: That's where I'm at with this whole thing. It's wow.
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Speaker 2: It's time to turn the page on this one. But
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Speaker 2: does that not blow your mind? I didn't know that.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know.
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Speaker 2: On Tuesday, just a couple of nights ago, three different games,
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Speaker 2: sex toys are just being thrown around from the crowd
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Speaker 2: trying to make it onto the court. They might just
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Speaker 2: hit someone upside the head and not make it to
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Speaker 2: the court. By the way, I'll turn the page on
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Speaker 2: all this. I just had a flashback, so I'll tell
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Speaker 2: you a brief story. This has nothing to do with
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Speaker 2: sex toys being thrown at games, but it reminded me
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Speaker 2: of one game I was at a famous game and
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Speaker 2: something else was thrown and it didn't quite make the field.
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Speaker 1: But so what I would do?
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Speaker 2: So I'm from South Bend, Indiana and way back in
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Speaker 2: what was it five? I was part of the Notre
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Speaker 2: Dame pregame show. And what was awesome about that is
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Speaker 2: they would give you a pass. You could go up
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Speaker 2: to the press box and watch the game, and you
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Speaker 2: could actually go down to the field for the final
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Speaker 2: five minutes of the game. Really cool, right, And I
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Speaker 2: went to the Bush Push game. There's USC at Notre Dame.
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Speaker 2: Famous game. And so this is gonna sound like first
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Speaker 2: world problems, but I actually hated being in the press
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Speaker 2: box because it's enclosed in glass. You can't feel the crowd.
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Speaker 2: It's a quote unquote working environment. You can't er, you
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Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like, I'm a lifelong Notre Dame fan.
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame scores a touchdown against number one ranked USC,
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Speaker 2: and I'm just supposed to sit on my hands.
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Speaker 1: And be like, oh, that was a good play.
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Speaker 4: Man.
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Speaker 1: I'm not built like, I can't do that. I can't.
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Speaker 2: So what I would do throughout that season, I would
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Speaker 2: just stand on top of the press box. You could
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Speaker 2: go up this flight of stairs and be up there
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Speaker 2: where the Eagles nest, you know, and have this bird's
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Speaker 2: eye view of the entire stadium. You can feel the crowd.
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Speaker 2: You could cheer if you wanted to. I'm like, this
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Speaker 2: is the spot. So for that USC game, it was packed,
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Speaker 2: Like everybody's on top of the press box and you're not.
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Speaker 2: It's like there's a ledge in front of you. It's
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Speaker 2: you know, it's almost like kind of like a treehouse
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Speaker 2: or something, I don't know, something like that. So it's
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Speaker 2: not like we're just standing on a slab of metal
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Speaker 2: and we might topple over at any point. It's it's
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Speaker 2: kind of like enclosed, right, But it was packed. I
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Speaker 2: think they closed it down after that game. There were
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Speaker 2: way too many people up there. They're trying to film
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Speaker 2: the game, and all these people are up there from nowhere,
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Speaker 2: but I wedged my way in. I'm watching the game
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Speaker 2: on top of the breast box and I don't know why.
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Speaker 2: There was a touchdown score Notre Dame scored a touchdown.
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Speaker 2: The crowd's going crazy, and for whatever reason, something just
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Speaker 2: caught my eye in the crowd. This one guy was
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Speaker 2: celebrating and he was sitting up pretty far, pretty up there,
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Speaker 2: you know, high up, and he took it had to
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Speaker 2: be like this super big gulp, this obnoxiously huge, either
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Speaker 2: thermous or like literally a big gulp, like this monstrous
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Speaker 2: sized soda, and to celebrate, he just threw it as
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Speaker 2: far as he could. He just heaved this thing and
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Speaker 2: I'm watching it just soar through the air, just majestically
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Speaker 2: soared toward the field, didn't quite make the field, and
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Speaker 2: about the tenth rower or something. It just bam nails
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Speaker 2: this dude on the side of the head.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh.
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Speaker 2: Man, what you got those people at games? Man, these people,
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Speaker 2: it's a good idea, you know, but sorry, the the
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Speaker 2: the dildo's being thrown at w NBA games and not
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Speaker 2: quite reaching the cord. I had a flashback with the
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Speaker 2: Bush push game. You know, you never know who's listening.
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Speaker 2: It's the famous line with radio.
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Speaker 1: It's so true.
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Speaker 2: I've had so many times throughout the years where something
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Speaker 2: peculiar happens, and this this person was listening.
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Speaker 1: Really another real cool story.
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Speaker 2: So I do a show on Sundays, it's called Countdown
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Speaker 2: and one of the guys on the show, it's it's
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Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, former NFL player, and it's Bill Krackenberger. He's
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Speaker 2: a professional sports handicapper and crack is here in Vegas
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Speaker 2: and it was a couple of weeks ago, he sent
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Speaker 2: a text to the group and he was like, hey,
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Speaker 2: I met Frank Caliendo.
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Speaker 1: I met him.
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Speaker 2: We ate some pizza. You know, I was out, he
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Speaker 2: was out. We're like, hey, you want to hang out.
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Speaker 2: He's like, he listens to the show on Sunday. I
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Speaker 2: guess he's got this whole routine he I don't know.
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Speaker 2: He he does like some sort of physical therapy, or
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Speaker 2: he gets in a pool and early on a Sunday
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Speaker 2: morning and he listens to the show. It's like, oh
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Speaker 2: my gosh, that's awesome. Frank caley Endo is hilarious. I
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Speaker 2: love that guy. You never know who's listening in radio.
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Speaker 2: I would not be shocked at all if either the
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Speaker 2: dude who threw the big gulp at the Bush Bush
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Speaker 2: game was listening or the dude who got knocked upside
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Speaker 2: the head was listening, Like, yeah, I was that guy.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what hit me. It was a big gulp. Really,
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Speaker 6: Though.
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Speaker 2: It was a very popular opinion just a few months ago,
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Speaker 2: and it's turned out to be completely wrong.
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Speaker 6: Now.
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Speaker 1: It's it's not over.
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Speaker 2: With yet, We're still early in the game, but it's
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Speaker 2: trending toward people being dead wrong.
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Speaker 6: Right.
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Speaker 2: So, when Shador Sanders was about to get drafted and
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Speaker 2: the first round came and went no Shadeur Sanders being drafted,
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Speaker 2: and then day two came and went no Chadur in
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Speaker 2: rounds two or three, and at that time it was
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Speaker 2: very popular to say, well, I mean, if you draft Shador.
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Speaker 2: You gotta deal with Dion Sanders, right, what if Deon
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Speaker 2: Sanders shows up. Deon Sanders's gonna weigh in, He's gonna
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Speaker 2: have all these opinions about what the Browns should be.
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Speaker 2: They should be playing Shador. Why aren't they playing my son?
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Speaker 2: That's what a lot of people were saying. Has Deon
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Speaker 2: done any of those things? There was a story this
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Speaker 2: week where Deon Sanders was maybe gonna go check out
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Speaker 2: training camp and Shadeur.
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Speaker 1: Was like, Pops, like, just.
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Speaker 2: Just don't bother. It's gonna be a circus, it's gonna
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Speaker 2: be a whole thing. Let's just let's not do that.
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Speaker 2: So Dian hasn't even been there. Has he said anything
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Speaker 2: about the Browns. Have you caught a clip? Do you
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Speaker 2: see anything on Sports Center where Dion is like, what's
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Speaker 2: up with my son not getting first team reps?
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Speaker 1: What's up with that?
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Speaker 2: Has he had anything to say about his son the
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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns? Whatsoever? Any stories out there?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 1: Nothing.
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Speaker 2: That was such a ridiculous take at the time, and
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Speaker 2: it looks so much more stupid now, this idea that
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Speaker 2: it was just gonna be Dion Sanders meddling with his son.
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Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns. And that's why these teams were smart
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Speaker 2: to just stay away from Shador. You just don't want
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Speaker 2: to deal with Dion Sanders. If any team made a
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Speaker 2: decision based on that, they have no balls, I don't
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Speaker 2: know any other way to say it. I mean, you
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Speaker 2: have no spine whatsoever. You're like, Oh, Dion Sanders might
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Speaker 2: weigh in and share an opinion or two, and then
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Speaker 2: the heat is really gonna be turned up.
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
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Speaker 2: If anyone thought like that, they are pathetic as an
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Speaker 2: NFL organization.
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Speaker 1: This is the NFL.
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Speaker 2: Controversy is all over the place, Negativity is all over
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Speaker 2: the place, opinions are everywhere you turn. You should be
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Speaker 2: playing this guy. You should be running less of this
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Speaker 2: and more of that.
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Speaker 1: That's how it goes. That comes with the territory. You
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Speaker 1: can't make.
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Speaker 2: A decision based on something like that. And it never
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Speaker 2: even came to be this thought that, oh, Dion is
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Speaker 2: just gonna be a maniac with all these opinions that
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Speaker 2: he's going to be sharing. I haven't heard one. I
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Speaker 2: haven't seen an article, nothing, nothing. Dion shockingly focused on
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Speaker 2: his job in Colorado. I just don't I never understood
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Speaker 2: that take at the time, then I understand it even
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Speaker 2: less now.
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Speaker 1: But that's the thing. I'll say real fast and I'll
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Speaker 1: get to the militia. This is the other thing.
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Speaker 2: A lot of people are saying a lot of stupid
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Speaker 2: things because they simply don't like Shaduur Sanders.
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Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. You don't have to like him.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if he rubs you the wrong way.
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Speaker 2: Okay, he dances, he does the wristwatch thing, whatever, you
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Speaker 2: think that he's full of himself, a little too flashy
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Speaker 2: for your taste.
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Speaker 1: Okay, none of that stuff bothers me.
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Speaker 2: But if it rubs you the wrong way you don't
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Speaker 2: like him, fine, you don't have to like the guy.
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Speaker 2: But I would say to anyone who doesn't like him,
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Speaker 2: just be careful that you're dislike doesn't infiltrate your opinions,
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Speaker 2: because there are a lot of people that they just
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Speaker 2: flat out don't like shador.
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Speaker 1: Again, they don't have to.
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Speaker 2: But you can't sound like a moron just because you
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Speaker 2: don't like the kid, you.
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Speaker 1: Know what I mean, And there are a lot of
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Speaker 1: people who do.
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Speaker 2: There are a lot of people who sound like idiots
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Speaker 2: because they don't like the guy. And it's just something
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Speaker 2: to keep in mind. You know, there was a story
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Speaker 2: that Archie Manning, the you know, the gram father of
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Speaker 2: arch Manning. So Arch Manning's at Texas, he might be
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Speaker 2: the number one pick in next year's draft. And Archie
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Speaker 2: Manning came out and he told the Texas Monthly he said,
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Speaker 2: arch isn't going to do that in terms of, you know,
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Speaker 2: leaving for the NFL Draft next year, He's not going
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Speaker 2: to do that. He'll be at Texas. And my reaction
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Speaker 2: first was, this is on the doorstep of the college
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Speaker 2: football season. Why the hell are we talking about the
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six NFL Draft. Shouldn't we be focused on
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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five college football season. Texas is the
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Speaker 2: number one team and the Coaches Bowl, They've got a
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Speaker 2: legit shot to win a national championship.
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Speaker 1: And we're talking about the twenty sixth draft. Why are
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Speaker 1: we doing that?
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Speaker 2: And my next thought was, can you imagine if all
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Speaker 2: things were equal, and this is what Shaudor Sanders was
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Speaker 2: either saying, or Dion Sanders was saying, or if Shador Sanders'
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Speaker 2: grandfather might have been saying that, Oh my gosh, do
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Speaker 2: you realize what people would be saying? They'd be like,
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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, Shadore, can you focus on the upcoming season?
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Speaker 1: Why you're worried about the draft? Yahda YadA.
19:15
Speaker 6: Oh.
19:15
Speaker 2: There'd be so many people coming out of the woodwork
19:18
Speaker 2: saying that with arch Manning is a shoulder shrug. It's
19:21
Speaker 2: almost like a non story today. And that's my point.
19:24
Speaker 2: Don't let your dislike infiltrate your opinions just because you
19:29
Speaker 2: dislike Shador. When Shador was drafted, I got all these
19:34
Speaker 2: tweets from all these people saying it made sense for
19:37
Speaker 2: him to be the one hundred and forty fourth pick,
19:40
Speaker 2: and some of the reasons they're not even close to accurate.
19:44
Speaker 2: One guy was like, hey, he's not tough. I'm like,
19:46
Speaker 2: not tough? Did you watch him play? This offensive line
19:50
Speaker 2: was awful. That dude took a beating and he was
19:54
Speaker 2: for sure tough man. He took a lot of hits
19:57
Speaker 2: and was still upright, didn't miss games. You cannot say
20:01
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders is not tough.
20:03
Speaker 1: And be accurate. That's an inaccurate statement. But that's my point.
20:08
Speaker 2: There are people that just don't like him, and it
20:10
Speaker 2: turns into well, dish and well, he's not even tough.
20:13
Speaker 1: He's not even accurate. I mean, he doesn't do anything well.
20:16
Speaker 2: It's like, no, you just don't like the guy, and
20:18
Speaker 2: you're saying a bunch of dumb things.
20:21
Speaker 1: Just check yourself right again.
20:23
Speaker 2: You don't have to like him, but be careful of,
20:26
Speaker 2: you know, avoiding saying stupid things based on not liking him.
20:31
Speaker 1: That's all I would say. And then we get out
20:33
Speaker 1: to the phones here, let's get to the militia. Love
20:35
Speaker 1: hearing from.
20:36
Speaker 2: Then my guy Kyle is in Boston talking some raiders.
20:39
Speaker 2: Let's go, oh, Kyle's not there, good to know. Or
20:45
Speaker 2: we've got blind Scott. Let's get blind Scott in here.
20:47
Speaker 1: What's going on? Blind Scott?
20:49
Speaker 6: Hey, what's up? Yeah? We were talking to radio earlier.
20:52
Speaker 7: Like I love radio so much, Like I think radio
20:55
Speaker 7: is making a comeback now. They got to put more
20:57
Speaker 7: radio people on radio. Though you can't put people who
21:00
Speaker 7: haven't been on radio before on radio. It just doesn't
21:03
Speaker 7: sound like correctly.
21:04
Speaker 6: Like here's an opinion about radio.
21:06
Speaker 7: I have the greatest person in radio right now, I
21:08
Speaker 7: think is Ryan Seacrest.
21:10
Speaker 6: I listen to his shows every day.
21:12
Speaker 7: He has a really good cadence, He does really good bits,
21:15
Speaker 7: and he knows how much time to have in between
21:17
Speaker 7: each segment, and his voice just sounds like it fits
21:21
Speaker 7: right into every segment he does. I think if anybody
21:25
Speaker 7: listens to his show that wants to work in radio,
21:27
Speaker 7: they can get the perfect model for how you're supposed
21:30
Speaker 7: to talk on radio. But I think you remind of
21:32
Speaker 7: him kind of Brian. I think you could sit in
21:33
Speaker 7: that same format. He does all these dating bits like
21:37
Speaker 7: in the La Market.
21:38
Speaker 6: I think they're like, really really good. He has people
21:40
Speaker 6: call up.
21:40
Speaker 7: But I wanted to talk about Mike Brabel. This Mike
21:43
Speaker 7: Brabel stuff in New England is amazing. Like you're supposed
21:47
Speaker 7: to teach these players not to act up, not to
21:49
Speaker 7: act like clowns. Mike Brabel's a great football, great guy,
21:53
Speaker 7: a great football mind. He jumps into that pile with
21:56
Speaker 7: no helmet on and gets cut in the face. I
21:58
Speaker 7: guess you can see him after he's bleed, and these
22:00
Speaker 7: all happys all fight up, the teams all behind them
22:03
Speaker 7: and stuff. It's totally fake. It's all staged for the media,
22:07
Speaker 7: you know, But I don't know. As a coach, and
22:09
Speaker 7: you're trying to teach these players not to act out
22:11
Speaker 7: in games, to stay discipline, I don't know as a
22:14
Speaker 7: coach how you can just go like that on a
22:16
Speaker 7: field and jump in the pile and then just act
22:18
Speaker 7: like a maniac.
22:19
Speaker 6: It's total It's total lunacy.
22:21
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Brian. It doesn't fit into
22:24
Speaker 7: the coaching standards of today. I grew up, I played
22:26
Speaker 7: college sports. The coaches used to act like that.
22:29
Speaker 6: Back then.
22:30
Speaker 7: They would do everything that you would use, every slur
22:32
Speaker 7: in the book in the locker room. You know, nobody
22:34
Speaker 7: really scrutinize you the coaches that much back then. That
22:37
Speaker 7: is not a modern day coach right now. And he's
22:40
Speaker 7: like walking a fine line of being like a social
22:43
Speaker 7: media star in like a hardcore old school NFL coach.
22:47
Speaker 7: But he's not Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick would have never
22:49
Speaker 7: done that. That's what I want to point out. Bill
22:52
Speaker 7: Belichick would have never jumped in the pile like that.
22:54
Speaker 6: Like what is that? You know? You know?
22:57
Speaker 2: Listen, blind Scott, I love you, and you do you
23:00
Speaker 2: make a great argument, and I see it completely differently.
23:05
Speaker 1: But I love your argument.
23:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's the best funniest thing about sports radio.
23:10
Speaker 2: I love a good argument, and you made a great argument.
23:13
Speaker 2: I see it totally differently. But that's the thing, Like
23:17
Speaker 2: a lot of people think that I want them to
23:19
Speaker 2: agree with me, don't. I don't rage against someone seeing
23:23
Speaker 2: it differently. I rage against a bad argument. It might
23:27
Speaker 2: be an argument on my side, you know, like we
23:30
Speaker 2: both think I don't know. Let's say that we both
23:33
Speaker 2: think the Chiefs are gonna win the Super Bowl this season.
23:35
Speaker 2: I don't know, And your reasoning is, oh, yeah, because
23:39
Speaker 2: I don't know, just something stupid, like you know, they're
23:43
Speaker 2: they're gonna throw you know, Mahomes is gonna throw twenty
23:46
Speaker 2: five touchdowns on deep balls this season.
23:48
Speaker 1: That's It's like, that's.
23:49
Speaker 2: A horrible argument, even though we both think that the
23:53
Speaker 2: Chiefs are gonna win the super Bowl. I completely disagree
23:55
Speaker 2: with your reasoning. So it's all about the argument. To me,
23:58
Speaker 2: it's not about which side you're on. But listen, blind
24:01
Speaker 2: Scott made a great argument. I'll say real fast why
24:04
Speaker 2: I don't agree with it. The reason I do not
24:06
Speaker 2: agree with it is that you're trying to establish a culture,
24:12
Speaker 2: and you're trying. What Rabel's going for is a tough
24:15
Speaker 2: a culture of toughness, and I think that serves an
24:18
Speaker 2: NFL team very very well. I mean this idea that
24:23
Speaker 2: what uh, that was just a social media thing.
24:26
Speaker 1: It's just for the media. That's that's not true.
24:28
Speaker 2: You wouldn't have players come right out in full support
24:32
Speaker 2: of this.
24:33
Speaker 1: This is your quarterback, Drake May.
24:34
Speaker 2: Here's what he said about Vrabel getting into a skirmish
24:37
Speaker 2: the other day at practice.
24:39
Speaker 4: That's what we're trying to build, I think. And it
24:40
Speaker 4: starts with the coach. Starts with the head coach. The intensity,
24:42
Speaker 4: bringing it every day, you know, taking no crap and
24:44
Speaker 4: you know when we're out there on the field. But
24:46
Speaker 4: also it comes to a time where our guys offensively
24:49
Speaker 4: and get over there and get some tussles and kind
24:51
Speaker 4: of have some penalties and extra after the whistle, you
24:54
Speaker 4: can get us some trouble. But for mentality, I like it.
24:56
Speaker 4: I think that's what you want. I mean, I almost
24:58
Speaker 4: got in there, but I think maybe no, maybe.
25:00
Speaker 1: So I'm here to tell you that is not fake whatsoever.
25:05
Speaker 2: Rabel knows what he's doing getting in there and you know,
25:08
Speaker 2: showing that type of toughness or at least willingness to
25:12
Speaker 2: put your nose in there is Players love that stuff.
25:16
Speaker 2: It's not like they all rolled their eyes in like oh,
25:18
Speaker 2: that was clearly for the media. That was just for
25:20
Speaker 2: social media clicks. That wasn't their reaction at all. This
25:23
Speaker 2: was Mario Davis, the wide receiver. This is more funny
25:26
Speaker 2: than anything I say.
25:29
Speaker 1: You should have seen the other guy. I loved it,
25:33
Speaker 1: But to me, I get the counter argument.
25:36
Speaker 2: I do, and a guy that I really respect who
25:39
Speaker 2: had a lot of success in the NFL, Tony Dungeee,
25:43
Speaker 2: Tony Dungee would agree with what blind Scott said there
25:46
Speaker 2: completely and Tony Dungee his approach was exactly what blind
25:51
Speaker 2: Scott talked about in Colts training camp. No fights, we're
25:56
Speaker 2: not you know, we're not getting penalties here. We're not
25:58
Speaker 2: doing in the regular season. We're not doing it in
26:01
Speaker 2: training camp, we're not doing it in practice, preseason games.
26:04
Speaker 2: There's no place for it here. And it served them well.
26:08
Speaker 2: That was a good approach for them. I don't think
26:12
Speaker 2: that applies to everybody. You can a lot of different
26:17
Speaker 2: ways to approach these things. And for the Patriots who
26:20
Speaker 2: only won four games, who've been kicked.
26:23
Speaker 1: Around for a long time now.
26:25
Speaker 2: It's been a long time since Brady and Belichick won
26:28
Speaker 2: the last Super Bowl, and there have been some lean
26:31
Speaker 2: years in between that year in these last handful of years,
26:36
Speaker 2: so you're trying to establish a new culture, toughness, you know,
26:39
Speaker 2: all of that stuff.
26:41
Speaker 1: And I also think this too. I think that.
26:44
Speaker 2: It's easier, say in the in preseason or training camp,
26:49
Speaker 2: or this was a joint practice with the Washington Commanders. Okay,
26:54
Speaker 2: I think it's easier if you step over the line. Right,
26:58
Speaker 2: there's a skirmish there, there's a fight. You're not going
27:00
Speaker 2: to do that in the regular season. It would be
27:02
Speaker 2: a penalty. I think it's easier if you step over
27:06
Speaker 2: the line in training camp to dial it back when
27:10
Speaker 2: the real games roll around. I think it's easier to
27:13
Speaker 2: dial it back than it is to crank it up.
27:17
Speaker 2: I actually I would rather have my team step over
27:20
Speaker 2: the line from time to time. Maybe there's a fight
27:23
Speaker 2: here that maybe there's a late hit, maybe there's a
27:25
Speaker 2: coach that jumps into a dog pile, what have you.
27:28
Speaker 2: I think it's easier to dial it back than it
27:30
Speaker 2: is to crank it up.
27:32
Speaker 1: I'll say it this way. My Dolphins. I love the Dolphins,
27:35
Speaker 1: but they're too pretty.
27:38
Speaker 2: I would love it if Mike McDaniel jumped into a
27:41
Speaker 2: pile that's never going to happen. I would love it.
27:44
Speaker 2: I would love it if there was a fight in practice.
27:46
Speaker 2: And some might hear this and look at it and
27:48
Speaker 2: be like, what are you talking about. No, for this example,
27:53
Speaker 2: it's case by case. But for the Dolphins, the problem
27:56
Speaker 2: with them is they're way too pretty. They're way too pretty.
28:01
Speaker 2: They play a pretty style of football. They thrown it
28:03
Speaker 2: all over the place. They've gotten pushed around in the
28:06
Speaker 2: trenches for years, completely pushed around.
28:11
Speaker 1: I would love to.
28:12
Speaker 2: See more edge, more toughness, even a little bit of stupidity.
28:16
Speaker 2: Like you could make an argument that it's stupid to
28:19
Speaker 2: get into a fight or do something after the whistle.
28:21
Speaker 2: You're just costing your team. You could say all those things.
28:24
Speaker 2: I don't think it applies all across the board to
28:27
Speaker 2: every single team. A team like the Dolphins who's gotten
28:30
Speaker 2: pushed around in the trenches that plays this pretty style
28:34
Speaker 2: of football, and if it's ninety degrees out and you're
28:36
Speaker 2: at home, like they could look really really good. But
28:39
Speaker 2: if it's a cold, nasty game, you're not able to
28:43
Speaker 2: throw it around all the time. That the conditions aren't
28:46
Speaker 2: made for it. It's like you gotta be able to
28:48
Speaker 2: push people around you gotta be able to knock them
28:51
Speaker 2: off the ball, run the ball down their throat, stop
28:54
Speaker 2: the run. You gotta be tough, and the Dolphins just
28:57
Speaker 2: aren't tough enough. I would love for them to do
29:01
Speaker 2: something like that and to show more edge. So I
29:05
Speaker 2: totally disagree with blind Scott, and he gave a great argument.
29:09
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people that will agree with
29:10
Speaker 2: everything that he said. Tony Dungee would be one of
29:13
Speaker 2: those people, and he had a lot of success. I
29:16
Speaker 2: really respect him. Tony Dungee's one of the greats. But
29:20
Speaker 2: I don't think that everybody has to approach it the
29:22
Speaker 2: same way. You don't have to be like, Okay, it
29:24
Speaker 2: worked for Tony Dungee, I'm gonna do the same thing.
29:27
Speaker 2: Or it worked for Belichick, he's not jumping into the
29:30
Speaker 2: pile up. That doesn't mean Mike Vrabel doesn't need to
29:33
Speaker 2: do that. I think that was one of the things
29:35
Speaker 2: where it seemed like Gerard Mayo might have been on
29:38
Speaker 2: the right track because he wasn't trying to be Belichick.
29:42
Speaker 2: It didn't work out, But how many times have we
29:45
Speaker 2: seen that we saw who was the Lions head coach
29:49
Speaker 2: that was that Matt Patricia was a former defensive coordinator
29:52
Speaker 2: and then what was he like the offensive flag caller.
29:57
Speaker 1: For a little bit with the Patriots. I couldn't believe that.
30:00
Speaker 3: You know.
30:00
Speaker 2: One of my buddies said, I'm a Patriots fan. I'm sorry,
30:05
Speaker 2: but I have to just side note. A couple of
30:08
Speaker 2: years ago, I'm like, hey, who's gonna be your offensive coordinator?
30:11
Speaker 2: And he said to me, I think it's gonna be
30:12
Speaker 2: Matt Patricia.
30:13
Speaker 1: Actual.
30:14
Speaker 2: I was like, what what the defensive coordinator's calling?
30:17
Speaker 1: You can't be serious, And sure enough it was.
30:21
Speaker 2: But anyway, Matt Patricia when he was with the Lions,
30:24
Speaker 2: he tried to be Belichick. He tried to check all
30:27
Speaker 2: of his players, be this hard ass. He didn't have
30:30
Speaker 2: the credentials. No one took him seriously. So I think
30:36
Speaker 2: you can run into a lot of problems trying to
30:38
Speaker 2: be just like Belichick. So I don't buy something, oh,
30:42
Speaker 2: this is different than what Belichick would do. In some
30:45
Speaker 2: ways good because you're not him. Mike Vrabel is not Belichick.
30:51
Speaker 2: And even though Belichick is not jumping into a pile up,
30:54
Speaker 2: that's fine if Mike Vrabel wants to.
30:58
Speaker 1: I think it works. I think it's This team gained.
31:01
Speaker 2: More respect for him for doing that than lost respect
31:04
Speaker 2: for him doing that. And here's the thing, man, You
31:08
Speaker 2: get these training camp fights, these joint joint practice skirmishes,
31:13
Speaker 2: all this stuff. When do you really see that carry
31:17
Speaker 2: over to the regular season.
31:19
Speaker 1: I mean outside of the.
31:20
Speaker 2: Raiders back in the day when they are literally getting
31:22
Speaker 2: the fights all the time. But do you see this
31:25
Speaker 2: commonly in this day and age. We're not talking way
31:28
Speaker 2: back in the day when the rules are different, the
31:31
Speaker 2: way the game is officiating is officiated is different.
31:34
Speaker 1: We're talking now.
31:36
Speaker 2: When do you see a team that gets into a
31:39
Speaker 2: training camp fight, joint practice FI When do you see
31:43
Speaker 2: that just be a common theme and plague them all
31:47
Speaker 2: season long?
31:49
Speaker 1: You don't. You don't see that.
31:52
Speaker 2: So I don't look at that as, oh, this is
31:54
Speaker 2: ridiculous as a silly approach by Verbel. I personally loved it,
31:59
Speaker 2: and I think for it that just won four games
32:01
Speaker 2: last season to build some toughness edge.
32:05
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of good that comes with that.
32:09
Speaker 2: And I just don't think the stupidity of maybe doing
32:12
Speaker 2: something after the whistle is going to carry over to
32:15
Speaker 2: the regular season and you're going to see the Patriots
32:17
Speaker 2: be plagued by this, I just don't buy it. I
32:20
Speaker 2: think it's easier to dial it back than crank it up.
32:24
Speaker 2: I'll put it this way. Say you go to the gym,
32:27
Speaker 2: I see like some sort of fat burner commercial on maybe.
32:30
Speaker 2: So say you go to the gym, you typically do
32:33
Speaker 2: a hard workout for an hour, all right? Which is easier?
32:38
Speaker 2: Is it the next day to do a harder workout
32:42
Speaker 2: for an hour and a half, or is it easier
32:46
Speaker 2: to do a thirty minute workout where you go hard.
32:49
Speaker 2: It's easier to scale back, to dial it back than
32:54
Speaker 2: it is to crank it up. So for these teams
32:57
Speaker 2: like the Patriots and Mike Rabel jumping into a.
33:00
Speaker 1: A skirmish right there.
33:02
Speaker 2: It's easier for a team that maybe goes over the
33:05
Speaker 2: line in training camp to dial it back and not
33:10
Speaker 2: do that in the regular season.
33:11
Speaker 1: Then it is for a team.
33:13
Speaker 2: That doesn't show edge, doesn't show toughness in the in
33:16
Speaker 2: training camp, and then I just got to crank it
33:19
Speaker 2: up come the regular season. It's tougher to do that.
33:22
Speaker 2: So I don't have an issue with it at all.
33:24
Speaker 2: I don't I'm actually on board with it.
33:27
Speaker 3: I like it.
33:28
Speaker 2: I like that Mike Vrabel jumped in there and was bloodied,
33:31
Speaker 2: and I love that stuff. Man, I don't have an
33:34
Speaker 2: issue with it at all. But hey, shout out to
33:37
Speaker 2: blind Scott. I thought he made a great argument on
33:41
Speaker 2: the complete opposite side, and.
33:43
Speaker 1: I respect him for that. I love that. I love
33:45
Speaker 1: a good debate.
33:46
Speaker 2: I love someone that brings a great argument on the
33:49
Speaker 2: complete opposite side. I embraced that completely and shout out
33:53
Speaker 2: to him.
33:53
Speaker 1: I thought I did a great job. I love that.
33:56
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34:09
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Speaker 2: We're looking for the biggest curveball in the NFL this season,
34:44
Speaker 2: And think about it this way. The odds are going
34:47
Speaker 2: to be long that any of these things happen, right.
34:50
Speaker 2: That's why we're trying to find the biggest surprise of
34:53
Speaker 2: the entire NFL season team wise, what team is gonna
34:57
Speaker 2: shock us the most good or bad?
35:00
Speaker 1: And so a lot of the teams.
35:01
Speaker 2: On the list, you're gonna be like, that's pretty unlikely
35:05
Speaker 2: that the Eagles are the biggest bad surprise, you know
35:08
Speaker 2: what I mean. But you just want to open your
35:11
Speaker 2: mind up. We'll do this at the top of the hour.
35:13
Speaker 2: I just want to open your mind up to the
35:15
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35:21
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35:34
Speaker 2: I just saw an interesting tweet where I don't know
35:38
Speaker 2: if I can find it on time, but I think
35:40
Speaker 2: it's Bill. Bill was like, why in the hell would
35:44
Speaker 2: you use no noe for radio?
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Speaker 1: You know it's no.
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Speaker 2: kN ow, no no O. You know then my spelling Noe's.
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Speaker 1: Like too hard to find you. What are you doing?
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Speaker 1: Call it the Yes Show.
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Speaker 2: I thought that was a funny tweet, So I appreciate that.
35:58
Speaker 2: Shout out to Bill, go out to Hollerin James. He's
36:01
Speaker 2: with us this morning. What's going on?
36:03
Speaker 1: Hollow In James?
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Speaker 6: Howard James is called back so many times. He's upset too,
36:10
Speaker 6: just like the Vikings, not upset, upset the NFL by
36:15
Speaker 6: taking the championship game and the NFC conferdence.
36:21
Speaker 1: So wait a minute, hollow In James, I don't get it.
36:22
Speaker 2: You're calling your shot that the Vikings are going to
36:25
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl?
36:25
Speaker 6: Is that?
36:26
Speaker 1: What's going on here?
36:28
Speaker 6: I'm making a I'm making a prediction, a strong prediction.
36:33
Speaker 6: The Vikings are really gonna look strong with jaj McCarthy
36:37
Speaker 6: and I would call Bud Graham out on this. Bud
36:41
Speaker 6: Grant deserves this championship for the Minnesota Vikings. He was
36:46
Speaker 6: one of the toughest coaches, that one of the most
36:49
Speaker 6: great cups in the Canadian Football League, but had a
36:53
Speaker 6: hard time when he's a big game for uncertain reasons.
36:58
Speaker 6: They know the right pushed off. I'm on a shot
37:05
Speaker 6: the pushed off on an heir interference call of set
37:10
Speaker 6: where they played the Miami Dolphins way back in the
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Speaker 6: day with Mandy Fernadds and I could date myself because
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Speaker 6: I'm sixty one years old and mean football ever since
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Speaker 6: I was a child.
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Speaker 1: I love that.
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Speaker 2: About you, Holler and James, that you can date yourself
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Speaker 2: as much as he won.
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Speaker 1: I love the old school football right there.
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Speaker 2: You know, my favorite Bud Grant memory was when he
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Speaker 2: went out for the coin toss. You remember this, Holler
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Speaker 2: and James. They had the freezing cold outside game and
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Speaker 2: he went out for the coin toss in a short
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Speaker 2: sleeve shirt. That was amazing by Bud Grant right there.
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Speaker 1: I love him for that.
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Speaker 6: Bud Grant was one of the toughest Canadian football coaches
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Speaker 6: you ever seed a round and he should have beat
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Speaker 6: Hans Stramp. And it was one of the first great
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Speaker 6: Super Bowls they ever played in with the Kansas City
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Speaker 6: Cheachs when they were called the Chiefs or Kansas City
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Speaker 6: and Hank Stam the Minnesota Likes and they based off
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Speaker 6: in Super Bowl What what super Bowl was that he recalled?
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Speaker 2: It was Super Bowl four And I don't agree with you.
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Speaker 2: They were talking what twenty three to seven. You know,
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Speaker 2: if memory serves the twenty three seven, that's not exactly
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Speaker 2: a close game there, hollow In James.
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Speaker 6: I know it wasn't a close game, and I know
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Speaker 6: you're gonna distribute with me, but don't you think the
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Speaker 6: Minnesota like you were upset because he got cheated out
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Speaker 6: of that game?
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: That sounds like some That sounds like some vikings bias
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Speaker 2: right there, holler In James.
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Speaker 1: I like where the Chiefs getting the calls way back?
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Speaker 1: I thought it was just like everybody.
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Speaker 2: Whinds about the Mahomes era and the calls it dates
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Speaker 2: all the way back to the Hank Stram days.
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Speaker 1: They're getting all the favorable calls.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, favor little close because there's been that way ever
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Speaker 6: since the beginning, even in nineteen ninety eight for Garry
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Speaker 6: Anderson Thomas Garry Innerson in the field, Oh yeah, nineteen
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Speaker 6: ninety eight.
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Speaker 1: Holler and James, Man, that was heartbreak city man.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, because he was perfect the whole year,
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Speaker 2: didn't miss a kick until that one terrible.
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Speaker 6: Or the biggest kicking was like, and why did random
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Speaker 6: Kreby have take a knee? And I got that jersey
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Speaker 6: and I got him eighty four Randy wash jersey that
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Speaker 6: play with the New England Patriots after he played with
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Speaker 6: the Raiders. He went to the Raiders first after the
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Speaker 6: Minnesota like. He's drafted them number one. But he went
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Speaker 6: into the Hall of Fame as a Minnesota like. And
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Speaker 6: now Jared Allen is sharing the same ring with Randy Wahson,
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Speaker 6: the same golden jacket.
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Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. No, that's cool that it came full
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Speaker 1: circle like that.
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Speaker 2: But man, you've had your heart broken many times over
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Speaker 2: the years, Holler and James, I feel for you the
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Speaker 2: Brett fav interception over the middle against the Saints. I
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Speaker 2: don't bring up bad memories, but you've had some heartbreak.
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Speaker 2: They've had some heartbreak over the years. Man, But I
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Speaker 2: always loved talking to you. Holler and thank you for
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Speaker 2: the call. Great stuff. I love that you've got passion, don't.
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Speaker 2: I don't care, like you know, if Holler and James
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Speaker 2: was driving on the road, he was on the sidewalk
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Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, he was.
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Speaker 1: He was on top of the guard rail first A.
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Speaker 1: We're just all over, we're in access. You know, I
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Speaker 1: don't care. He's got passion.
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Speaker 2: We're talking Vikings, we're talking Bud Grant, we're talking Haigu Stram.
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Speaker 1: Let's get after it. You know, we just can't wait
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Speaker 1: for football season to get here.
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Speaker 2: Oh man, that's awesome, that is fantastic. Yeah, I want
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Speaker 2: to know the temperature.
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Speaker 1: It was freezing. I don't know why they were outside.
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Speaker 2: There's something going on with the stadium at the time,
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Speaker 2: but the Vikings were hosting the Seahawks outside playoff game,
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Speaker 2: freezing cold. Bud Grant goes out there for the coin
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Speaker 2: toss in a short sleeve like soft collared shirt.
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Speaker 1: Amazing. Biggest curveball the NFL season. Next