Latest / Becker’s Payer Issues Podcast / Strengthening Medicaid and Maternal Health in Florida with Fiona Fang
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- 0:51- Hi, everyone. This is Elizabeth Cassello with the
- 0:53- Becker's Payer Issues podcast.
- 0:55- I'm thrilled today to be joined by Fiona
- 0:57- Fong,
- 0:58- CEO of Aetna Better Health of Florida. Fiona,
- 1:01- thank you so much for joining us today.
- 1:03- Thank you, Liz. I'm very happy to be
- 1:05- here. We're so happy to have you. So
- 1:08- before we jump in, can you fill us
- 1:09- in a little bit about yourself, your health
- 1:11- care career background,
- 1:12- and your current role at Aetna Better Health
- 1:14- of Florida and just what you're seeing there?
- 1:18- Absolutely.
- 1:19- I first started my career as an actuary.
- 1:22- I have always thought of myself as a
- 1:25- business minded actuary.
- 1:27- I enjoy turning data into a few meaningful
- 1:31- and relevant insights and use it to empower
- 1:33- different teams to work together for actions.
- 1:37- I have been with Aetna for almost ten
- 1:40- years.
- 1:40- During this time, I have led
- 1:43- actuarial support across six different Medicaid markets, including
- 1:47- Florida
- 1:48- and oversaw
- 1:50- pharmacy support for the entire Medicaid segment.
- 1:53- And that multistate experience has taught me Medicaid
- 1:57- is incredibly
- 1:58- local.
- 1:59- Every state has its own set of demographics,
- 2:02- different sets of health conditions and priorities from
- 2:05- different administrations
- 2:06- and, of course,
- 2:07- very unique budget realities.
- 2:10- The first step for me is always,
- 2:12- to listen and deep dive into the state
- 2:15- we're in.
- 2:16- From there, we can bring in our national
- 2:18- expertise.
- 2:20- Part of my role was to sit down
- 2:22- with our state partners during budget season
- 2:25- to show them potential ways we can lower
- 2:27- program cost without really compromising outcomes
- 2:31- and why, and also show them how other
- 2:33- states are doing it and their savings.
- 2:36- And we always approach it as a form
- 2:38- of a partnership and offered it up as
- 2:40- suggestions.
- 2:43- Earlier this year, I had the honor,
- 2:45- of stepping into the CEO role for Aetna
- 2:48- Betterhouse of Florida,
- 2:50- which is part of Aetna and CVS Health.
- 2:53- We have been in Florida for more than
- 2:56- thirty years, and today, we serve around 230,000
- 3:00- Medicaid and CHIP members across the state,
- 3:03- including children,
- 3:05- families,
- 3:06- older adults,
- 3:07- individuals with complex needs.
- 3:10- We are also very proud to be a
- 3:12- NCQA
- 3:13- four star health plan.
- 3:15- For Medicaid populations,
- 3:17- specifically,
- 3:18- factors like healthy food,
- 3:20- housing, transportation,
- 3:22- and community support, they all play
- 3:25- very important part, in our members' overall health.
- 3:28- And as a health plan, we are committed
- 3:31- to continue investing in community partnership
- 3:34- and resource to address those specific needs.
- 3:37- Our goal is very simple, to help people
- 3:40- achieve better health. And our approach is very
- 3:43- local.
- 3:44- We work closely with providers, community partners, and
- 3:47- our state agencies.
- 3:49- Also, being part of a national organization,
- 3:52- enables us to drive local solutions with broader
- 3:55- capabilities.
- 3:57- As a CEO, my focus has been,
- 4:00- on making sure we operate effectively with discipline,
- 4:04- strengthening partnership with providers and community organizations,
- 4:08- and maintaining collaborations
- 4:10- with our state agencies.
- 4:12- At the end of day, it is all
- 4:13- about, helping our members achieve better health.
- 4:17- So I'd love to hear a little bit
- 4:18- more about the transition into your CEO role
- 4:21- earlier this year. I know you've already been
- 4:23- at Aetna before, but,
- 4:25- what has it been like integrating into this
- 4:27- market?
- 4:28- It has been a very good and exciting
- 4:30- transition for me. I
- 4:33- certainly didn't come to this role checking every
- 4:35- single box.
- 4:37- So it has been a tremendous learning experience
- 4:40- for me as well.
- 4:42- My actuarial background
- 4:44- naturally gravitates me towards connecting the dots, and
- 4:48- I love doing that. So I really value
- 4:50- this role because it allows me to do
- 4:52- that on a much bigger scale.
- 4:54- And that really has empowered me this year
- 4:57- to lead the team and drive forward initiatives
- 4:59- on our top priorities.
- 5:02- One of the main changes for me has
- 5:04- been, spending more time in the field, boots
- 5:07- on the ground, and getting closer to our
- 5:09- communities we serve.
- 5:10- I've met providers and community partners across the
- 5:13- state.
- 5:14- Every time I go out, I learn something
- 5:16- new.
- 5:17- Those conversations are incredibly valuable because we hear
- 5:21- firsthand challenges and barriers
- 5:23- that are impacting people's experience every day, and
- 5:27- I always walk away with ideas for solutions
- 5:30- and how we can better support our members
- 5:32- and partners.
- 5:34- The most,
- 5:35- rewarding part of this job has been
- 5:38- seeing the difference we can make in people's
- 5:41- lives.
- 5:42- Whether it's helping a child access the care
- 5:44- they need at a critical moment,
- 5:47- supporting a pregnant member in achieving her health
- 5:50- goals,
- 5:51- or connecting someone with safe and affordable housing
- 5:54- in their community,
- 5:55- those are the moments that really reminds me
- 5:58- why we do what we do every day.
- 6:01- So you said coming into this role, you
- 6:02- may not have checked every single box. So,
- 6:05- like, what has been, like, the top learning
- 6:07- for you so far in these past few
- 6:09- months?
- 6:11- Really, it's,
- 6:12- the experience and the time that I have
- 6:14- gained,
- 6:15- outside in the field,
- 6:17- the ability to,
- 6:20- connect with our communities and our providers,
- 6:23- that experience,
- 6:25- is new for me for this role.
- 6:27- It's very exciting. It's a lot of great
- 6:29- opportunities there.
- 6:31- So I know one thing that
- 6:33- you're... You were interested in chatting about was
- 6:35- maternal and infant health initiatives across the state.
- 6:38- So can you talk me through, like, are
- 6:40- there innovative approaches that y'all are taking there,
- 6:43- and do you have any data points or
- 6:45- insights about what has been most effective?
- 6:48- Yeah. Happy to, talk about our maternal health
- 6:50- strategy.
- 6:51- Maternal health is, definitely a top priority for
- 6:55- us at Aetna Better House of Florida.
- 6:57- It is also a top priority for the
- 6:59- state of Florida.
- 7:01- Actually, in Florida,
- 7:03- around, four out of, ten babies are born
- 7:06- under Medicaid coverage,
- 7:08- which means that Medicaid plans like us, we
- 7:10- have tremendous opportunity and responsibility
- 7:13- to help improve outcomes for moms and babies.
- 7:16- There isn't really a single program or intervention
- 7:19- that is going to,
- 7:21- solve maternal health challenges.
- 7:24- We see great results,
- 7:26- when providers, community partners, state agencies, and health
- 7:30- plans all come together.
- 7:32- It really takes a village and a coordinated
- 7:35- approach to drive outcomes.
- 7:37- At the health plan, we use data and
- 7:39- analytics to identify pregnancies
- 7:42- as early as possible,
- 7:43- and we work very closely with providers and
- 7:46- members to encourage early notification
- 7:49- of pregnancy.
- 7:50- The goal is really to engage moms early
- 7:53- and connect them with the care and support
- 7:55- they need.
- 7:56- Really, the first trimester give us the best
- 7:59- opportunity window to identify potential risk, develop a
- 8:03- care plan, and provide the right support throughout
- 8:05- the entire journey
- 8:07- from the start of a pregnancy and twelve
- 8:09- months postpartum.
- 8:10- The earlier we engage, the more opportunities we
- 8:13- have to improve outcomes for moms and babies.
- 8:16- And we are very proud to share, according
- 8:19- to the latest NCQA
- 8:21- data, more than ninety percent of our members
- 8:24- received timely prenatal and postpartum care.
- 8:27- Fewer of our babies go to NICU compared
- 8:30- to its national average.
- 8:31- Those are very,
- 8:33- encouraging statistic and signs,
- 8:36- which means that our efforts are making a
- 8:38- difference for our members.
- 8:40- In addition to, medical care, we also offer
- 8:44- wraparound services for the whole person care.
- 8:48- So moms could have access to transportation,
- 8:52- diapers,
- 8:53- housing assistance,
- 8:54- food as medicine, doula services, breast pumps, lactation
- 8:58- supports. You can name it. All the resources
- 9:01- based on their need.
- 9:03- When we bring together
- 9:05- providers, community support, and personalized engagement
- 9:08- and the focus on the whole person care,
- 9:11- that's when we see the... Would become the
- 9:13- most effective.
- 9:15- I was curious.
- 9:16- You talked about the the timely,
- 9:19- you know, care and some of the recognition
- 9:22- that y'all have gotten there. What does timely
- 9:24- mean in this context?
- 9:27- Timely means,
- 9:28- to be able to, get moms in for
- 9:31- a visit as soon as possible
- 9:33- upon pregnancy.
- 9:34- Again, the first trimester is the best opportunity
- 9:37- window for us to identify any potential risk
- 9:40- such as diabetes or high blood pressure.
- 9:43- So this way we can manage those conditions
- 9:46- along the way
- 9:47- and, you know, have the most opportunity to
- 9:49- help us to improve the outcomes for both
- 9:52- moms and babies.
- 9:54- Okay. Yeah. That makes sense. I'm also curious
- 9:56- just with the Medicaid landscape right now. I
- 9:59- know Florida is kind of an exception because
- 10:01- it's not an expansion state. You know? Who
- 10:03- knows if it's gonna be an item on
- 10:04- the ballot in 2028?
- 10:07- But I would love to hear what are
- 10:09- your top concerns with the Medicaid population in
- 10:11- your market right now?
- 10:14- Yes. You're right. Florida is not a Medicaid
- 10:16- expansion state, so we're less impacted by some
- 10:19- of the challenges other states are facing.
- 10:22- With that being said, we're still seeing Medicaid
- 10:25- membership decline statewide in Florida.
- 10:28- Actually,
- 10:29- this week,
- 10:30- we felt the impact of the CMS non
- 10:32- citizen Medicaid eligibility change that took effective
- 10:36- October 1.
- 10:37- Thousands of our members were at risk of
- 10:39- losing coverage. In some cases, people lose coverage
- 10:43- because they're not knowing or didn't complete the
- 10:46- paperwork in time.
- 10:47- It's not because they should they should lose
- 10:49- coverage.
- 10:50- Notice were mailed to members, but how many
- 10:53- people would actually read their mails in time
- 10:56- or if at all?
- 10:58- And that is concerning because maintaining coverage matters,
- 11:01- and people rely on Medicaid to access medications,
- 11:05- ongoing treatment, preventive care,
- 11:08- and coverage and care gaps in some cases
- 11:10- could lead to ER and inpatient admissions.
- 11:13- So
- 11:15- as soon as we receive the member list
- 11:17- from the state, we acted very quickly. Within
- 11:19- the days, we were able to,
- 11:22- text and email thousands of the members, from
- 11:25- the list in multiple languages and let them
- 11:27- know what they need to do to stay
- 11:29- covered.
- 11:30- I actually just saw our October membership this
- 11:33- week. We're definitely seeing a big... Bigger drop,
- 11:36- but they are not as significant as we
- 11:38- initially feared.
- 11:39- So that is also encouraging because it may
- 11:42- suggest our outreach efforts help the member with
- 11:44- the information they needed.
- 11:47- Another thing I wanna point out, that's especially
- 11:49- important right now is protecting the integrity of
- 11:53- the Medicaid program.
- 11:55- So when we talk about fraud, waste, and
- 11:57- abuse,
- 11:58- we talk about a very small number of
- 12:00- bad actors.
- 12:01- The majority of providers are dedicated professionals delivering
- 12:05- very high quality care to our members.
- 12:08- At Aetna, we take this responsibility
- 12:10- very seriously.
- 12:11- In 2025,
- 12:13- as a company, we investigated
- 12:15- more than 15,000
- 12:17- instance of potential fraud, waste, and abuse nationwide.
- 12:21- We have a comprehensive program in place that
- 12:24- combines
- 12:24- technology,
- 12:25- predict,
- 12:26- predictive analytics,
- 12:28- clinical expertise, and,
- 12:30- we also have a dedicated investigation team on
- 12:33- the ground.
- 12:34- So the goal isn't just to identify issues
- 12:36- after they occur, but to detect,
- 12:39- those
- 12:40- patterns early so we can prevent the problem
- 12:43- before before they become too big.
- 12:45- We also... On the network side, we have
- 12:48- gut reels and oversights to make sure those
- 12:51- bad actors do not enter our network in
- 12:53- the first place.
- 12:55- We know Medicaid resource are finite and as
- 12:58- a health plan, we are responsible to make
- 13:00- sure those resource are invested in improving access,
- 13:04- quality, and outcomes for our members.
- 13:07- Well, Fiona, thank you so much for chatting
- 13:09- with us today, and I really appreciate you
- 13:11- taking the time.
- 13:12- And thank you very much. I really appreciate
- 13:14- it.
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