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INTERVIEW: 112, Case & Total On The 90s R&B Generation, Biggie's Magic In Studio, Cool Vulnerability + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Every day a week ago, clicks up the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 2: Finish, y'all done morning.
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Speaker 3: Everybody is the j n V Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
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Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club law Ros here as well.
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Speaker 3: We got some special guests in the Bountain. Come on
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Speaker 3: now we have one twelve, we have total and we
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Speaker 3: have Case. Welcome, Welcome, welcome, We welcome man.
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Speaker 4: How are you doing?
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Speaker 1: And this is not a random link up y'all going
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Speaker 1: on tour together?
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Speaker 5: This is the one.
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Speaker 6: Twelve room one twelve thirtieth anniversary tour. We're so excited
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Speaker 6: about our brother Case and our sister's total with us.
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Speaker 5: So you know, have a good time. Man.
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Speaker 6: First first shows win November health Yeah, November twelve. Staff
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Speaker 6: for Connecticut Brooklyn is November thirteenth.
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Speaker 3: So there's a members missing. So are the members going
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Speaker 3: to be on tour or this is the tour?
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, this is okay, okay, yeah, nice.
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Speaker 4: My other members.
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Speaker 5: By yourself, we're made.
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Speaker 1: Now the right time for all of y'all to come
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Speaker 1: together for this tour.
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Speaker 6: Oh that's a great question, bro. Honestly managed it. It
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Speaker 6: just felt right it being thirty years, you know, us
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Speaker 6: being in the game. So it just it just makes
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Speaker 6: sense for us to just get out there and just
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Speaker 6: show the fans that we really appreciate what they've been doing,
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Speaker 6: you know, been rocking out with us for the last
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Speaker 6: thirty years man, So you know, we're really excited about it. Man,
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Speaker 6: Like we're managed totally and one twelve are managed by
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Speaker 6: the same you know crew.
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Speaker 5: So of course that was an easy, you know decision
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Speaker 5: to make with that.
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Speaker 6: And then in case you know, being you know bro, Yeah,
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Speaker 6: that's the bro, you know what I mean, and all
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Speaker 6: of us having that catalog is definitely we wanted to
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Speaker 6: bring back that ninety nostalgia you feel and all.
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Speaker 7: Y'all still sing thank you.
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Speaker 8: That's you know, not everybody doing it, but y'all can
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Speaker 8: still sing.
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Speaker 5: That's important. Good, yes, man.
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Speaker 3: So were you guys on the road already on tour
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Speaker 3: before or you you have to break from family obligations
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Speaker 3: and be like, I'm gonna need to take some time
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Speaker 3: out and get on tour.
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Speaker 9: We Keisha and I were on.
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Speaker 7: We just started back a year ago.
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Speaker 9: We came back out. We did the R and B
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Speaker 9: tour part of that. Yeah, we were home. We came
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Speaker 9: my family and.
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Speaker 3: How difficult was that getting back on the road, getting
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Speaker 3: back on dancing, getting back on How difficult was that?
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Speaker 4: It really it wasn't.
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Speaker 9: It really wasn't difficult. It's like, you know, like riding bike.
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Speaker 9: Once you did it, you done. So it's just you know,
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Speaker 9: my kids are older, Keisha still has a high school child.
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Speaker 9: But so it wasn't hard at all. They're very supportive,
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Speaker 9: you know. They actually was like, go do it.
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Speaker 10: By yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 10: Rehearsals was dope. We had to you know, work it
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Speaker 10: out a little bit. But like Keema said, it's like
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Speaker 10: riding a bike. Once you get started.
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Speaker 7: My vibe is very authentic.
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Speaker 3: So it's you know, but people went through dancing from
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Speaker 3: the old videos. If you ain't hitting them them.
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Speaker 9: Dancing, we danced and we got our box.
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Speaker 1: How did y'all find that balance back in the day
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Speaker 1: between being like sexy was strong, was still street with it, Like,
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Speaker 1: how did y'all find that balance?
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Speaker 9: It was just natural, like that's just who we are
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Speaker 9: growing up Jersey like.
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Speaker 10: How we were, Yeah, and that's what made us. To me,
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Speaker 10: that's what made us who we were. Total the name
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Speaker 10: started out as total opposites because we were all individuals
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Speaker 10: in our own way, you know. So it was it
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Speaker 10: wasn't like you had to buy the brand.
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Speaker 11: We came as we were.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. How was the bad Boy ever back then?
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Speaker 4: Growing up?
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Speaker 3: Right, because there was a time nineties two thousand it
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Speaker 3: was nothing but bad Boy in the radio, nothing but
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Speaker 3: bad Boy on the streets, mixtapes to clubs. How was
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Speaker 3: that era where just it felt like anything y'all did hit.
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Speaker 11: It was, it's some beautiful things.
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Speaker 9: It was fun, it was. That's what we learned a
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Speaker 9: lot of our grind from that whole era.
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Speaker 7: Grinding just out there.
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Speaker 11: It was going to the time like it was just fun.
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Speaker 11: It was just like a.
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Speaker 6: Big yep, yeah that's crazy.
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Speaker 2: Us coming from Atlanta. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 12: It like it was a different it was like a
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Speaker 12: different culture. So you know, you know, you can imagine
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Speaker 12: how that felt.
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Speaker 5: He's coming.
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Speaker 12: I know, he's from the you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 12: So you're coming to New York culture culture, you know.
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Speaker 12: So you know, but but it was so much fun
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Speaker 12: because it was just like, okay, clubs smaller, but you
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Speaker 12: know what i mean. But it was like in your face,
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Speaker 12: so you know what I'm saying. So, but we learned
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Speaker 12: a lot musically here.
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Speaker 5: M hmm.
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Speaker 3: What about you for you case now, you weren't on
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Speaker 3: bad Boy, You're on Death Jam Jam. You a songwriter,
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Speaker 3: you had you have the I always say, you have
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Speaker 3: that one wedding song that you will get paid.
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Speaker 2: For for the rest of your life. Happily ever after, Like.
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Speaker 3: That was that was coming up for you in that
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Speaker 3: and during that time because at that time you were
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Speaker 3: death Jam. Death Jam was heavy pop, and you was
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Speaker 3: probably one of the only R and B singers at
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Speaker 3: the time.
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Speaker 4: I mean it was.
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Speaker 13: It was cool for me, except for the only problem
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Speaker 13: that they was learning on the fly how to do
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Speaker 13: R and B and so I caught up in that sometime.
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Speaker 13: But yeah, I mean, you know how big they was then,
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Speaker 13: so that part was cool. It was just a lot
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Speaker 13: of times they had a lot of hip hop sensibilities
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Speaker 13: because it's hip hop labor. But one of the things
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Speaker 13: that helped me was that I was the last artist
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Speaker 13: that Russell personally signed to Death Jail, so I'd always
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Speaker 13: call him and be like, yo, I can snitch.
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Speaker 1: The record was gonna be so timeless, like touch me,
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Speaker 1: tease me happily ever ever.
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Speaker 13: I didn't know, but that's what I always wanted to
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Speaker 13: do like I never wanted to make like trendy stuff.
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Speaker 13: I always wanted to make music like my parents would
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Speaker 13: listen to stuff from like twenty thirty years earlier, and
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Speaker 13: it would have me doing it. And so my thing
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Speaker 13: was like, if I could do that, then I'd be
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Speaker 13: happy and then everything else will fall in line.
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Speaker 1: You worked with a Mary Jay Beyond Foxy Brown, who else?
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Speaker 3: There's a bunch of people ll ghost Face, ghost Face,
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Speaker 3: genuine Tyrie, genuine Tyr, Jam and Lewis.
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Speaker 1: What's a session that changed the way you saw yourself
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Speaker 1: as an artist?
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Speaker 13: M probably Jam and Lewis because I was a huge
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Speaker 13: fan and I'm like, I'm sitting in room with Jimmy,
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Speaker 13: Jame and Terry Lewis and I'm like and they was like, well, yeah, Janet,
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Speaker 13: we're gonna have Janet comes.
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Speaker 4: She loves you.
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Speaker 13: And I'm like wait, wait wait wait, I'm like wait
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Speaker 13: wait wait, got a call that Yeah, yeah, we don't
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Speaker 13: need to do that. I was just saying, I love
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Speaker 13: I don't have don't have a walk in here, because
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Speaker 13: that had have been different, But it was really that
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Speaker 13: one because I'm like sitting there, I've been listening to
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Speaker 13: him forever and I'm like, dag, I'm sitting here. Another
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Speaker 13: one was the first time I worked with Charlie Wilson.
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Speaker 13: I had wrote a song for him and I was
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Speaker 13: a huge fan. And I'm sitting in the booth behind
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Speaker 13: him on the floor while he's doing his vocals and
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Speaker 13: I'm tripping out like this is really happening.
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Speaker 4: So it was a lot of different moments.
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Speaker 3: I felt like, def Jim didn't treat you like a
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Speaker 3: regular artist, right with total.
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Speaker 2: In one twelve.
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Speaker 3: I would see them out in the club like bad
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Speaker 3: Boy would have him Mountain Death Jim artists, Deaf Gym
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Speaker 3: would have them mount I didn't see you Deaf Jim
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Speaker 3: put you out as much like that?
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Speaker 2: Was it because you didn't want.
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Speaker 1: To go out or probably didn't know what to do
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Speaker 1: it because he was R and B.
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Speaker 13: I think a lot of it. Yeah, First of all,
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Speaker 13: I hate going out, okay, So if I didn't have
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Speaker 13: to be there, listen, that's why you always be like yo,
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Speaker 13: you had a lot of stuff about you.
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Speaker 4: I know how to be over here.
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Speaker 13: So yeah, I mean I wasn't really big on going out,
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Speaker 13: or when I did, it'd be I'd be somewhere else
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Speaker 13: unless I had to be somewhere with them.
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Speaker 14: Gotcha, did you guys? Well, Mike, I saw you say that.
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Speaker 14: You feel like, you know, you guys, first album. Without that,
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Speaker 14: you don't think that R and B would be as
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Speaker 14: prevalent or as worldwide as it is right now.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, so yeah, because we felt like we contributed
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Speaker 6: a lot more than one twelve. You know, we walk
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Speaker 6: around with modesty on our shoulders and stuff, and I
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Speaker 6: know that that's you know, Huberts to say that while
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Speaker 6: you're talking about modesty, right, But yeah, we we always
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Speaker 6: walked around with this this mindset that, man, we'll.
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Speaker 5: Let our actions speak for themselves.
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Speaker 6: But we would always challenge people like find us because
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Speaker 6: our niche in the industry was hip hop and R
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Speaker 6: and B. We weren't just hip hop artists, I mean
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Speaker 6: R and B artists. We were hip pop and R
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Speaker 6: and B artists. So yeah, the mind frame was we
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Speaker 6: started that whole trend. It's like the way music sounds now.
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Speaker 6: One twelve had a lot to do with that because
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Speaker 6: no one can really give us a group that did
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Speaker 6: it the way that we did it before one twelve,
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Speaker 6: Like as far as singing over hip hop beats and
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Speaker 6: stuff like that, Like you I challenged in but find
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Speaker 6: me a group that did it, because back then in
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Speaker 6: the day, what you had the A side and you
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Speaker 6: had the B side right, and then on the B side,
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Speaker 6: so the records, right, they had the records, you had
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Speaker 6: the uptempo records where they were singing, but they were
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Speaker 6: always all that singing over uptempo beats and stuff. It
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Speaker 6: was like it was confusing.
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Speaker 1: Puff.
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Speaker 5: One one thing that Puff told us.
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Speaker 6: Was like when you're in the club, when you when
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Speaker 6: you're recording a record, right, sing the song as if
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Speaker 6: you're in the club drinking and you're trying to holler
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Speaker 6: at the girl.
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Speaker 5: You ain't gonna be in this girl talking about yeah
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Speaker 5: you gonna go. I want to be with you else,
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean. It's gonna be something smoothing.
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Speaker 6: So when we wrote records, when we wrote the uptimbo
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Speaker 6: records and then Slim having the voice being able to
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Speaker 6: just lay on the tracks the way that we did,
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Speaker 6: like that started an hold ever where people now like
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Speaker 6: when you hear R and B, it has a hip
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Speaker 6: hop element to.
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Speaker 5: It as well. It's not just R and B. It's
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Speaker 5: a hip hop element isn't that.
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Speaker 1: A bad boy formula or wasn't that Diddy? Like I
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Speaker 1: feel like Diddy did that like with Jodysie. I feel
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Speaker 1: like he did that with Mary j Blige, like he
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Speaker 1: did that with Total.
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Speaker 5: I'll give you that.
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Speaker 6: I'll give you Mary j Blige because yeah, she she helped,
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Speaker 6: uh because we always say that Mary is between Mary
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Speaker 6: and one twelve, but one twelve really and then yeah, puff,
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Speaker 6: did you know he did contribute because we came in
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Speaker 6: with just we are and B we aren't b bro, like,
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Speaker 6: forget all that stuff man like hip hop that's gonna
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Speaker 6: cheapen our sound and all this sudden stuff. And he's
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Speaker 6: had the vision was like, Yo, this is what's gonna
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Speaker 6: separate y'all from the Drew Hills, from the Jaggets, from
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Speaker 6: the you know, the Ajets and all these other groups
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Speaker 6: that were coming out at the same time.
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Speaker 8: And you know what that that didn't make perfect sense
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Speaker 8: right instead of all I would love a nigga to
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Speaker 8: come up to me and class, let.
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Speaker 2: Me tell you what exactly.
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Speaker 5: That's exactly what it was, because nine times out of
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Speaker 5: ten ain't gonna be able to sing.
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Speaker 6: So he's like, bro, all of that in my ear,
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Speaker 6: like I don't want to hear all that, you know,
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Speaker 6: so that.
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Speaker 1: You agree with Mike's assessment. Not to start any arguments here,
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Speaker 1: but the case, do you agree with that?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was, it was part of it.
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Speaker 13: I mean that during that era, but that's when hip
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Speaker 13: hop and R and B was Yeah, yeah, pretty much, and.
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Speaker 1: I feel like bad Boy was at the forefront of.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely, yeah, because Total was hip hop with that
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Speaker 10: touch of R and B. R and B group, but
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Speaker 10: I think we were more base hip hop with the
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Speaker 10: touch of R and B, and Mary definitely was the
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Speaker 10: pioneer of that sound.
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Speaker 7: And Total, you guys are some of the I'm sorry,
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Speaker 7: go ahead shout out.
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Speaker 11: To No no no.
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Speaker 10: I was just gonna say when he when Puff did
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Speaker 10: the remixes with Jodasy, because Jodasy was just.
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Speaker 11: The R and B and then he brought the hip
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Speaker 11: hop elementary.
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Speaker 1: Ghost facing Ray Kuon on the Freaking You remix, you know,
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Speaker 1: like I can't even I don't want to hear can't
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Speaker 1: you see without Biggie part? Like I hate hated when
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Speaker 1: some of the urban AC stations back in the day
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Speaker 1: didn't play Raptors, just played the R and B I hated,
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Speaker 1: I was, I mean.
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Speaker 4: I would go before record.
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Speaker 1: Yes, because they didn't want you didn't play played.
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Speaker 3: So how did y'all sign to Puff? When did y'all
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Speaker 3: meet Puffing? Puff is like, this is the group that
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Speaker 3: I want.
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Speaker 2: How did that start? Because the first time.
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Speaker 9: We met Puffy through we met these guys that introduced
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Speaker 9: us to Kathy. Kathy was from Mount Vernon, Kathy, Kathy Duke,
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Speaker 9: She's how we met Puff. Puff is. What's her son's
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Speaker 9: what is her son's godfather? He's the little baby, the
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Speaker 9: little first boy baby put closer.
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Speaker 11: So that's how we met him.
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Speaker 10: Can I can I bring Can I bring them in?
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Speaker 10: So Kathy one day when when we were introduced to Kathy,
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Speaker 10: Kathy was like, I would love to represent y'all manage all.
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Speaker 10: So we ride and ride and Kathy was like, y'all
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Speaker 10: gotta always be ready, always be ready.
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Speaker 11: So she pulls up, she goes upstairs. She's like, I'll
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Speaker 11: be right back.
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Speaker 10: She comes downstairs and she was like, Okay, I need
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Speaker 10: y'all to make up a song and put Puffy's name
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Speaker 10: in it. At the time, Puffy's Puffy, He's actually in
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Speaker 10: the studio with Joe Tosy doing the remix. So he
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Speaker 10: comes downstairs, he introduces himself and then we just start singing,
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Speaker 10: but we're performing.
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Speaker 9: We had him all backed up against the wall and
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Speaker 9: he was.
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Speaker 11: At us like yeah, his mouth open. He was like,
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Speaker 11: how are you?
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Speaker 10: He asked our ages came upstairs. We watched him, you know,
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Speaker 10: direct Jo Tosy, and then he asked us how well
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Speaker 10: did we get along in the studio, like if we
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Speaker 10: had an argument, did we get back in the studio?
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Speaker 11: And we were like yeah.
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Speaker 10: So he was like okay. So he was like, yo, y'all, y'all,
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Speaker 10: y'all sound really good.
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Speaker 11: He was like, yo, I just.
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Speaker 10: Encourage y'all to keep doing what y'all doing, you know,
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Speaker 10: don't let nobody break y'all. Up two o'clock that morning,
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Speaker 10: he called Kathy. He was like, don't take them nowhere
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Speaker 10: on the signum.
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Speaker 2: What was the first song that y'all did? What was
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Speaker 2: the first one y'all recorded?
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Speaker 10: Well, we recorded songs that never went anywhere because we
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Speaker 10: were just trying to find our sound. But can't you
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Speaker 10: no Juicy.
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Speaker 3: Juicy Juicy was the first record I did and I
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Speaker 3: was working with Biggie Amazing. You gotta break it down,
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Speaker 3: both songs, Juicy and the Can't you.
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Speaker 9: See The story behind how we wind up recording Juicy
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Speaker 9: is like Big was like our little big brother.
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Speaker 11: Like we were close with Big, so.
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Speaker 9: We would frequently be in New York hanging out in
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Speaker 9: the studio with him. So he called this one day.
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Speaker 9: He was like, come to the city we was in.
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Speaker 9: He was in the studio. So we went to the
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Speaker 9: studio and he was playing Juicy. Keisha started humming something.
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Speaker 9: Big he was like, y'all should go in there and
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Speaker 9: put that down. So he, you know, just gave us
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Speaker 9: some words or whatever, and we went in there and
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Speaker 9: we put it down, and Puff had us come back
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Speaker 9: the next day and do the one More Chance songs.
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Speaker 9: So that's how it started. Juicy, Yeah, original one more Chance,
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Speaker 9: the one on the album is different from the.
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Speaker 2: With the voicemail in the front.
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Speaker 11: Need to work on that Juicy.
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Speaker 9: It says it now when you google it. But I
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Speaker 9: assume that it wasn't necessarily supposed to have been a
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Speaker 9: feature for me because it was his first single and
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Speaker 9: stuff like that.
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Speaker 11: So yeah, and I think, you know, we were new.
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Speaker 9: I don't think it was something that just happened, like
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Speaker 9: we were in the studio and we got in trouble.
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Speaker 9: It was our maners like, don't do that no more.
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Speaker 9: But I just think they didn't plan for it to
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Speaker 9: be Biggie's first album to have a feature on it.
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Speaker 2: Did y'all get writing cres for it? No?
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Speaker 11: No, because Big wrote it right.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know y'all was on Juicy Alom and we
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Speaker 1: know those records more chance Dirty version is like one
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Speaker 1: of my favorite records.
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Speaker 2: Wow, and can't you see why can't you see it
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Speaker 2: come together?
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Speaker 10: We just came to the studio and the track was
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Speaker 10: playing and we were like, oh snap.
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Speaker 11: And then Terry Robinson Terry what was the group that
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Speaker 11: Terry was?
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Speaker 7: The girls?
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Speaker 10: Terry Robinson's so incredible as far as songwriting, and she came.
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Speaker 10: She was like, this is this is what it is? Okay,
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Speaker 10: verse I like that verse. She liked that verse, like
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Speaker 10: that verse. We went recorded it and it was what
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Speaker 10: it was it. No, No, Big wasn't on it.
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Speaker 7: He was a studio.
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Speaker 11: He was in the studio and then he came in
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Speaker 11: and laid it down. It's crazy.
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Speaker 5: Wow, that's crazy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 14: I was gonna ask when you say we got to
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Speaker 14: work on it, you can go back and make sure
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Speaker 14: that you guys are credited on the song now, even
15:25
Speaker 14: though like it's been listed ways to certain how that.
15:29
Speaker 10: Works because I think I think Pam was able to
15:32
Speaker 10: do that with Hypnotized.
15:35
Speaker 9: So and then we get our sounded, we get we
15:38
Speaker 9: can performance royalties for it, like our sound Exchange and
15:41
Speaker 9: stuff like that, and it has gotten updated. We had
15:44
Speaker 9: it updated on the internet. So now if you look
15:46
Speaker 9: it up, it does say feature in total. But it
15:49
Speaker 9: just didn't go out like that.
15:51
Speaker 5: Yeah, crazy a lot.
15:53
Speaker 11: Of y'all, can't, you know.
15:59
Speaker 8: I just I just never like realized that it didn't
16:03
Speaker 8: say featuring. Right, your voice is definitely y'all.
16:07
Speaker 1: Know, y'all know the question did y'all enjoy the moment
16:11
Speaker 1: of the nineties, Because when I look at y'all, it's
16:12
Speaker 1: like y'all are like mythical figures to me, right, Like
16:16
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because y'all defined not just
16:19
Speaker 1: the genre, but like y'all would have soundtrackted our lives.
16:22
Speaker 1: Did y'all enjoy the moment? Yes?
16:25
Speaker 6: Yeah, when they said boy was in the building road, it.
16:35
Speaker 10: Was when we were on a high. I mean, you
16:37
Speaker 10: couldn't ask for a better label. You know, and a
16:40
Speaker 10: place to be and especially like aspiring artists when this
16:43
Speaker 10: is something that you dream of doing to land on
16:46
Speaker 10: bad Boy and I do. We remember the time clearly
16:49
Speaker 10: when bad Boy was everywhere. It was nothing to just
16:53
Speaker 10: walk in the club or walk anywhere and just get.
16:56
Speaker 11: That love, admiration and respect.
16:58
Speaker 6: Like it was whether they world wearing black leather, you know,
17:02
Speaker 6: we wearing you know, the head bands that everybody's doing
17:05
Speaker 6: like we were.
17:06
Speaker 5: It was. It was deeper than the music, Yeah, it was.
17:09
Speaker 5: It was. It was a It was a.
17:13
Speaker 10: Movement and we loved each other, yeah, and each other.
17:19
Speaker 5: A lot of ways.
17:21
Speaker 6: How the record got together, like like we tell the
17:24
Speaker 6: story of how we we were on Big. Like if
17:27
Speaker 6: you look at listen to Life After Death, right one,
17:30
Speaker 6: twelve is all like Big he shouts us out throughout
17:32
Speaker 6: the whole album. That's because we were in the studio
17:35
Speaker 6: with him. Like so Daddy's house had the Neve, the
17:38
Speaker 6: S s L and the in the pre production room.
17:40
Speaker 5: Right, so twelve is in the pre production room.
17:42
Speaker 6: Junior Mafia, Big is all in the neve room. Seeds
17:46
Speaker 6: come out and says yo, big one child. So we
17:50
Speaker 6: go in there. From here up we smoked, right, so
17:53
Speaker 6: we can't see where nobody's interest.
17:55
Speaker 5: So we filled around.
17:57
Speaker 6: So Big is just sitting there right, and and we
17:59
Speaker 6: use this all that we he used the word genius.
18:00
Speaker 6: We throw the word genius out a lot, but this
18:02
Speaker 6: is true definition of genius.
18:04
Speaker 2: Right.
18:05
Speaker 5: So we're walking in Big Cus. He said, Yo, what up?
18:09
Speaker 5: And that's it.
18:09
Speaker 6: He says, nothing else, right, So everybody else, Junior Mafia,
18:12
Speaker 6: they're moving around, everybody's laughing, everybody's smoking, having a good time,
18:15
Speaker 6: everybody's drinking.
18:16
Speaker 5: You know, twelve we.
18:17
Speaker 6: Baked out our minds because we don't smoke.
18:21
Speaker 5: We baked right.
18:22
Speaker 6: So around two three hours later, Big it's like, yo,
18:24
Speaker 6: I'm ready, and the engineers like ready for what? So
18:27
Speaker 6: dude gets up going to the booth and does I
18:29
Speaker 6: got a story to tell? One twelve CD blast Because
18:33
Speaker 6: we were in the room with us, he's listening to
18:35
Speaker 6: everybody's story. He's listening to Junior Mafia tell that story,
18:38
Speaker 6: one twelve tell that story. And then he goes in
18:40
Speaker 6: that doesn't write anything down, Now that's what the genius.
18:43
Speaker 6: Like we saw that firsthand. Like this dude never wrote
18:46
Speaker 6: anything him and faith faith, like Faith doesn't write anything
18:49
Speaker 6: down either. Like, so, Faith don't Faith don't write down there, Jesus, Yeah,
18:54
Speaker 6: Faith don't write anything down.
18:55
Speaker 5: We watched her, Dude, you abandoned me. Love don't live
18:58
Speaker 5: where we was at a what's the other studio?
19:01
Speaker 4: Bro?
19:01
Speaker 6: I forget what it's uh hit factory he was, she
19:05
Speaker 6: was a hit factory.
19:06
Speaker 5: Well doing that record with Mary J.
19:08
Speaker 6: Blige and she she just went in there and just
19:10
Speaker 6: did the whole thing without like yo, with the paper.
19:13
Speaker 5: She don't need no paper or market and not like.
19:17
Speaker 14: Just sing it from life.
19:19
Speaker 5: Big and Faith to the only two I've ever seen.
19:21
Speaker 8: I got a story to tell, just straight came to
19:23
Speaker 8: him and he went at hearing story.
19:25
Speaker 6: He's watching everybody tell their story like and heated.
19:31
Speaker 1: Perfect.
19:32
Speaker 5: Bro kind of say the hell out of that record?
19:35
Speaker 1: Him and j Z the only people that do that.
19:37
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, right down there.
19:43
Speaker 7: That is a gift for sure.
19:44
Speaker 1: But back in the day, it's like R and B
19:46
Speaker 1: used to celebrate like love and heartbreak. But now like
19:49
Speaker 1: it feels transactional. What do you think made vulnerability cool
19:52
Speaker 1: back then?
19:54
Speaker 12: Well, you know, I just think that it was a time.
19:57
Speaker 12: It was just a time period where you know, where
19:59
Speaker 12: everything was going in the world. We used music as
20:02
Speaker 12: our getaway. It was our medicine. You know what I'm saying.
20:05
Speaker 12: Anybody remember the nineties when we came to the club,
20:08
Speaker 12: and we came anywhere. Everybody came to party, to dance.
20:11
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
20:13
Speaker 12: You know, now you're going you go into places. I
20:15
Speaker 12: don't know how it is too much here in New
20:17
Speaker 12: York as much, but I know in Atlanta everybody's staring
20:20
Speaker 12: at each other everywhere there on the phone, you know,
20:23
Speaker 12: and it's like it's a different type of a feel.
20:27
Speaker 5: So you know, so.
20:28
Speaker 3: It's homecoming if it's homecoming, and okay, that's true, but
20:33
Speaker 3: regular clubs.
20:34
Speaker 12: But even when you say that, you know, the alumni
20:38
Speaker 12: us cranking it up, you know what I'm saying.
20:41
Speaker 2: So you know, yeah, back.
20:42
Speaker 5: Then R and B was kind of it was more hyperbolic,
20:45
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. It was.
20:46
Speaker 6: It was, you know, good damn will. We're not climbing,
20:48
Speaker 6: no highest mountain, swimming, no deeper sea, but we gave
20:51
Speaker 6: you we're not doing all of that, but we gave
20:57
Speaker 6: you the impression we sung it and maybe believe that
21:00
Speaker 6: that that was possible. Anything was possible in there. And nowadays, man,
21:03
Speaker 6: it's just it's different.
21:05
Speaker 11: The music is too, and we came from good music
21:08
Speaker 11: from my parents.
21:10
Speaker 4: That's what I was about to say.
21:11
Speaker 13: I think the other thing that did it was hip
21:14
Speaker 13: hop became more hyperbolic.
21:18
Speaker 4: Definitely a good word for that.
21:19
Speaker 13: But when it merged with R and B so much,
21:22
Speaker 13: it became not cool to have feelings. But I guess
21:25
Speaker 13: that's how people felt. And then the strip cup club
21:27
Speaker 13: culture got involved. When it's everything is that And I
21:30
Speaker 13: always say that, like with everything that's going on in
21:32
Speaker 13: the world and people's lives, you gotta be able to
21:35
Speaker 13: sing about something more than threesomes in the strip clubs,
21:37
Speaker 13: something else going on, what I'm saying, And nobody really
21:40
Speaker 13: does that. Well, I won't say nobody, but a lot
21:42
Speaker 13: of the music doesn't have that no more. They don't
21:44
Speaker 13: have the feelings, that don't have the vulnerability. Like you said,
21:46
Speaker 13: it's all trying to.
21:48
Speaker 5: Be rappers, basically, all the things trying to be.
21:51
Speaker 4: And a lot of that technology so.
21:53
Speaker 1: Crazy because even the rappers back then, most of the
21:55
Speaker 1: rappers back then, we loved him because they were vulnerable.
21:57
Speaker 1: You love Pot because he was vulnerable, You love Big
21:59
Speaker 1: he was vulnerab Kanye because.
22:00
Speaker 4: He was because vulnerable.
22:03
Speaker 5: You can't be vulnerable.
22:04
Speaker 1: You were so vulnerable.
22:06
Speaker 8: At the end of I Think It's Missing You, you
22:08
Speaker 8: said I can't sing no more.
22:09
Speaker 4: I was fighting for my life, for my life singing
22:16
Speaker 4: that song.
22:17
Speaker 7: And I was all day listen. So when you said
22:19
Speaker 7: I can't sing the more, you.
22:21
Speaker 4: Really couldn't or he was no, I was sick. You
22:23
Speaker 4: were yeah.
22:24
Speaker 13: And when I got there, what happened was I went
22:27
Speaker 13: to La on Monday to do Missing You. We're supposed
22:30
Speaker 13: to do it on Tuesday. I don't know what happened.
22:32
Speaker 13: My voice went out, so I spent all day Tuesday
22:34
Speaker 13: Wednesday trying to get it back, and Thursday it came back.
22:38
Speaker 4: So what did I do. I went hanging out with
22:40
Speaker 4: Jah and so.
22:42
Speaker 13: I went to the club and then that night we
22:45
Speaker 13: did living it up. Then it left again the next
22:47
Speaker 13: day because I was out all night. So it got
22:49
Speaker 13: to Friday. It was like, we don't do it today,
22:51
Speaker 13: we can't do it. So I went in there. I
22:53
Speaker 13: was drinking stuff all day, wouldn't come back. Got to
22:56
Speaker 13: his studios like he can't sing or talk, so he's like,
22:59
Speaker 13: can you try right, I'm like all right, So I
23:00
Speaker 13: went there once he said keep you do it one
23:02
Speaker 13: more time. And I got to the end and I
23:04
Speaker 13: felt it going. I'm like, and then I said, I
23:07
Speaker 13: can't sing nobody want to say it, so I sang
23:09
Speaker 13: it that. I'm like, I'm knocking on the glass and I.
23:21
Speaker 2: Know that that was it.
23:22
Speaker 9: That was it.
23:24
Speaker 4: Went, and I'm knocking the mind.
23:25
Speaker 13: That's why they sing nothing else. I came out and
23:27
Speaker 13: tapped them on the shoulder.
23:28
Speaker 4: I'm like, and that was I just.
23:30
Speaker 7: Literally thought, you missed her so much that you can't now.
23:34
Speaker 4: I was fighting for my life and then what crazy
23:36
Speaker 4: thing about that?
23:37
Speaker 13: I got nominated for Grammy.
23:42
Speaker 4: But that's the craziest part. They nominated for Grammys for
23:44
Speaker 4: both them songs Amazing, which was crazy.
23:47
Speaker 1: Man.
23:48
Speaker 4: I was fighting that night.
23:49
Speaker 7: Yeah.
23:50
Speaker 1: How do how do y'all balance egos? You know? You know,
23:54
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with three legendary acts who all had
23:56
Speaker 1: their individual moment, you know.
24:00
Speaker 6: Gratitude, it's it's a respect level, you know what I mean.
24:04
Speaker 6: It's like because I'm I'm actually fans. Yeah, actually I
24:10
Speaker 6: love that, And I know it sounds cliche with it,
24:12
Speaker 6: but it's the truth. And you know, we we so
24:15
Speaker 6: often we don't tell the truth, you know, we're getting
24:17
Speaker 6: this type or form or whatever, but we are genuinely
24:20
Speaker 6: like total was our first pick to be on this
24:22
Speaker 6: Room one twelve tour. Case was our first pick to
24:25
Speaker 6: be on this because in Case his catalog, we just
24:27
Speaker 6: spoke about his catalog ridiculous, total, ridiculous, one twelve ridiculous,
24:32
Speaker 6: And we wanted to bring back that nineties nostalgia, you know,
24:35
Speaker 6: and just bring back that whole era of I knew
24:37
Speaker 6: where I was when I heard only You for the
24:39
Speaker 6: first time. You know, I knew where I was when
24:41
Speaker 6: I heard Cupid, when I heard I'm Missing You, and
24:43
Speaker 6: when I heard can't you see for the first time,
24:45
Speaker 6: Like I remember where I was when I heard these was.
24:48
Speaker 7: To be where I was, you know.
24:54
Speaker 13: I think that ego is healthy on a tour, especially
24:57
Speaker 13: like this, because you have to if you use it
24:59
Speaker 13: the right way. Like for me, it's like, Okay, I'm
25:02
Speaker 13: gonna try to kill everybody. They're gonna feel the same,
25:05
Speaker 13: and then the fans the one that win, as opposed
25:07
Speaker 13: to people who just go up there and don't care,
25:09
Speaker 13: like I just got to.
25:10
Speaker 10: We come from that, you got you got come from that, right,
25:12
Speaker 10: We come from that came our tour and were like, yeah, totally.
25:16
Speaker 10: When twelve just killed, y'all got Okay, that's.
25:20
Speaker 4: How you gotta do it. And that's that's the because
25:24
Speaker 4: the only people that win is the fans.
25:26
Speaker 2: Was there ever a low time for y'all?
25:28
Speaker 3: Because I feel like my daughter's twenty four and she
25:32
Speaker 3: loves nineties music more than anything.
25:33
Speaker 2: R It's probably because dad plays it in the house.
25:35
Speaker 2: Mom and Dad played in the house. But I just
25:37
Speaker 2: I feel like, was there a low time?
25:38
Speaker 3: And then I feel like nineties just came back and
25:40
Speaker 3: is stronger than even this year is like.
25:43
Speaker 2: This decade's music. Was it ever a low time for y'all?
25:46
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, it definitely was.
25:49
Speaker 6: I think for us, the resurgence of the nineties, you know,
25:52
Speaker 6: was was something that was what we appreciated more than anything,
25:54
Speaker 6: and that happened about what maybe almost like six seven
25:57
Speaker 6: years ago.
25:58
Speaker 2: It was like what the pandemic around that you.
26:01
Speaker 12: Didn't know when you didn't know what the state of
26:05
Speaker 12: music and how the industry and how we were going
26:08
Speaker 12: to perform was going to be. Remember, everybody started experimenting
26:12
Speaker 12: with the whole you know, taping, you know, and then video.
26:17
Speaker 12: It was just, yeah, I thought we were going to
26:19
Speaker 12: just it's going to be that you know, so so
26:23
Speaker 12: much gratitude now to you know what I mean, see
26:25
Speaker 12: it for where it is, and and we feel like
26:28
Speaker 12: it's a blessing that of all the errors they chose
26:32
Speaker 12: to pick, they picked the nineties, you know what I'm saying,
26:35
Speaker 12: So thank you.
26:37
Speaker 1: I would want to go back, just I really want
26:38
Speaker 1: to experience it in New.
26:39
Speaker 7: York, like left at Me.
26:45
Speaker 14: I think that one time you left at Me. I
26:48
Speaker 14: just feel like the time that you guys were like
26:51
Speaker 14: like the top, it was such a good time here.
26:54
Speaker 14: It doesn't seem real, like when we hear the stories
26:57
Speaker 14: or like I y'all talk about just walking in the studio,
27:01
Speaker 14: Big Biggie's just there and like, you know, I can't
27:04
Speaker 14: imagine I'm young and just being like on top.
27:08
Speaker 7: Yeah, like in that time, but.
27:10
Speaker 6: You're working so hard that you don't even realize it,
27:12
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like you don't even realize
27:14
Speaker 6: what it took us to step away from it, you know.
27:17
Speaker 6: And and okay, we can use it as our downtime,
27:19
Speaker 6: you know, and say that that was the time for
27:22
Speaker 6: us to go back and look at it and say, man,
27:24
Speaker 6: we we did more than just seeing you know, we
27:27
Speaker 6: contributed to a culture like we we are part of history.
27:30
Speaker 5: You know.
27:32
Speaker 1: Culture.
27:32
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that was amazing.
27:35
Speaker 6: It's looking at it now being older, like you're looking
27:37
Speaker 6: at it now because my kids now they're they're going
27:39
Speaker 6: back and they googling like dad, y'all, y'all the pieces
27:41
Speaker 6: of the green the video. My kid, no, because I
27:48
Speaker 6: don't go around I don't. I don't go around here looking, you.
27:51
Speaker 5: Know, I don't. I don't do that.
27:52
Speaker 6: You know, like they just they they grew up as
27:56
Speaker 6: normal as I I hoped I could because I could
28:00
Speaker 6: teach them to be because it's such a mental strain
28:04
Speaker 6: that the industry takes.
28:05
Speaker 5: Like it gives, but.
28:06
Speaker 6: It also takes. One of the things is, you know,
28:09
Speaker 6: the lack of you know, the mental health that comes along.
28:14
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying with that, because you're you're
28:16
Speaker 6: inundated with all of this. You know, you have to
28:19
Speaker 6: be perfect every time you see you're out, you all,
28:22
Speaker 6: your face has always got to be right, your clothes
28:24
Speaker 6: gotta always be right.
28:25
Speaker 5: Or man, they don't fell off, bro Like I just
28:28
Speaker 5: came from the jail, you know.
28:30
Speaker 3: But I think the cameras up the camera messed it
28:34
Speaker 3: up because when like, the reason I.
28:35
Speaker 2: Asked if he was out is I would see everybody
28:37
Speaker 2: out right.
28:38
Speaker 3: I was a kid growing up, so I would go
28:40
Speaker 3: to grass Tom and see y'all one hundred twenty fifth
28:42
Speaker 3: stri I would go to the tunnel and see y'all
28:44
Speaker 3: in the tunnel and different things. And there was no
28:45
Speaker 3: VIP area. That's what it was, and it gave you
28:51
Speaker 3: a connection with the artist. But there was no phone,
28:52
Speaker 3: so it was no I'm taking a picture.
28:54
Speaker 4: It was no.
28:55
Speaker 2: I mean, the only thing that you would.
28:56
Speaker 3: Possibly do if you want, and nobody want to look corny,
28:59
Speaker 3: but you might ask for an order, but nobody wanted
29:00
Speaker 3: to come to.
29:01
Speaker 2: Club and do that. So it gave you at the moment,
29:04
Speaker 2: and I feel like people are not enjoying the moment
29:07
Speaker 2: to the micro and everybody.
29:09
Speaker 13: Had I hate when you come out on stage and
29:10
Speaker 13: everybody got a phone. I'm like, it's happening right here
29:13
Speaker 13: in front of you, and then for me anyway, I
29:16
Speaker 13: don't think that because I think part of when you
29:18
Speaker 13: perform is the it's how it sounds, is how it looks,
29:21
Speaker 13: but it's the energy in the room and you can
29:23
Speaker 13: never if you go back and watch that, you're not
29:24
Speaker 13: going to get that energy. The energy is right there
29:26
Speaker 13: in front of you. Like for me, I would maybe
29:29
Speaker 13: take a picture, quick video, then I would put my
29:31
Speaker 13: phone down. I went to see Stevie Wonder. I ain't
29:33
Speaker 13: even take a picture. I sat there because there's an
29:36
Speaker 13: energy that goes with it. I think a lot of
29:38
Speaker 13: people miss that because you're like this and I'm like, yo,
29:40
Speaker 13: it's right in front of you. If you put the
29:42
Speaker 13: phone down, it's happening right there. Because you got to
29:45
Speaker 13: watch the phone to see if you got the singing
29:49
Speaker 13: off key.
29:50
Speaker 4: And so I'm like, am I'm messing up? When I
29:51
Speaker 4: see the videos, I'm like you, no, that's.
29:55
Speaker 13: I'm like, hold on, did I just ain't No way,
29:57
Speaker 13: I just did that.
29:58
Speaker 1: I did that.
29:59
Speaker 10: I'm like, man, I'm like, I've never went live ever,
30:03
Speaker 10: went live on Instagram and I wasn't expecting this. Beyonce
30:08
Speaker 10: came out and she just started speaking, I'm all live.
30:11
Speaker 10: I'm like, I'm on live, y'all as b and she
30:14
Speaker 10: started speaking and I started crying. I was not expecting.
30:17
Speaker 10: I was like, Okay, Gods, I gotta go. Literally, I
30:19
Speaker 10: might have been filming for like ten seconds. You gotta
30:22
Speaker 10: be in a moment because it's an experience, you know
30:25
Speaker 10: what I mean?
30:25
Speaker 4: Watching it is, No, it's not.
30:28
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, Kim, what was your household
30:30
Speaker 1: like growing up? Because I got four daughters, and you know,
30:32
Speaker 1: a couple of them express wanting to be in the arts.
30:34
Speaker 1: You and your sister Vita, y'all actually made it happen
30:37
Speaker 1: with your parents pushing y'all to both be in the industry.
30:40
Speaker 4: What was no.
30:42
Speaker 9: God's plan? Vita was always a lot more outgoing than me,
30:48
Speaker 9: so it wasn't surprising for me that she got into it. No,
30:52
Speaker 9: like my mama had us in church. You know, my
30:58
Speaker 9: mom was what's a struggle for her? So like I know,
31:02
Speaker 9: for me, all I wanted to do was just be successful.
31:05
Speaker 9: I wind up singing. We sung in the choir and
31:07
Speaker 9: stuff like that. But I wind up being in a
31:09
Speaker 9: group and entertaining the industry through Keisha. When we became friends,
31:13
Speaker 9: she heard me sing, but it was just something that
31:16
Speaker 9: we just always did. My mom sung back up for Ritha.
31:18
Speaker 9: Franklin grew up in that era, but it was pretty
31:22
Speaker 9: normal at home.
31:23
Speaker 7: Like I really honestly didn't.
31:26
Speaker 9: Have time to dream because I was so busy trying
31:28
Speaker 9: to figure out, Okay, how I'm gonna help my mom
31:32
Speaker 9: like I needed to work, So you know that was
31:35
Speaker 9: my plan as soon as I was old enough. So Nope,
31:40
Speaker 9: she didn't push us. She supported us like she was
31:42
Speaker 9: our number one fan, but she didn't push us to
31:45
Speaker 9: be into it being an Missy Elliott. Oh, Missy tovey
31:51
Speaker 9: that she had a rap voice and be don't stop rapping.
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Speaker 1: So this is just when y'all did What About Us?
31:57
Speaker 1: So I was it around this time?
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Speaker 9: Well, yeah, like Missy, we had met Missy before she
32:03
Speaker 9: started writing What About Us and stuff like cause, like
32:05
Speaker 9: you said, everybody kind of hung around each other.
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Speaker 2: So Missy we became for a while too.
32:11
Speaker 9: We became Missy and I was really close at one
32:13
Speaker 9: time and she was out my house at Jersey and
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Speaker 9: her Vita talking and she told Vito you should rap
32:17
Speaker 9: Beta started rapping.
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Speaker 6: Wow, got a story for that too. So Missy used
32:21
Speaker 6: to hang out at Daddy's house all the time. Yeah,
32:24
Speaker 6: and so she was like, yo, puff, I want to
32:26
Speaker 6: get on this record there. So we wrote a record
32:28
Speaker 6: for Geena Thompson. We wrote that right Missy came in.
32:32
Speaker 6: She was like, yo, I need to get on this jone,
32:33
Speaker 6: I need to get on it. And then that's the
32:35
Speaker 6: first time you heard her do the.
32:39
Speaker 5: The record. That was the first time that you know,
32:41
Speaker 5: she was in Sister.
32:42
Speaker 6: She was in the Girl Sister at that point, but
32:44
Speaker 6: she had came up and she was like, Yo, I
32:45
Speaker 6: need to get on one of these recordss record one
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Speaker 6: twelve them I'm writing.
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Speaker 5: So she was just all the time.
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Speaker 6: She was just in Daddy's house, man, And that was
32:52
Speaker 6: the energy that was around bad boys, Like we were
32:55
Speaker 6: just all in each other's studio, like hey might come
32:58
Speaker 6: in here and seeing this real quick Faith, you know,
33:00
Speaker 6: come in and seeing this record Like a lot of
33:02
Speaker 6: times it wasn't you know, just it was by design.
33:05
Speaker 6: It was really just being in the room at the
33:07
Speaker 6: right place at the right time, you know, and just
33:09
Speaker 6: and that's making them have his.
33:10
Speaker 4: Faith wrote the song that got me signed to Wow Wow,
33:13
Speaker 4: Crazy Wow.
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Speaker 13: It was all called Don't Be Afraid and Misaid, who
33:19
Speaker 13: was managing me at the time, got Faith to write it.
33:22
Speaker 13: Which there's a hilarious story for that though. We had
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Speaker 13: to me and my homeboy KB shout out to Murray.
33:27
Speaker 13: We went to you know, you had to get the
33:30
Speaker 13: actual CD. So we had a rental car. We drive
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Speaker 13: to Brooklyn to meet Faith at that crib. She plays
33:35
Speaker 13: it for me. I take the CD. Big comes in.
33:38
Speaker 13: He don't know us. It's ninety four, so he like.
33:43
Speaker 13: She's like, yeah, this case, he's an artist, blah blah blah.
33:45
Speaker 13: He's looking.
33:46
Speaker 4: So we leave.
33:47
Speaker 13: We go outside the riner. Car won't start. They leave
33:51
Speaker 13: and come back. We're still sitting there because we're trying
33:54
Speaker 13: to call somebody to come. Were sitting outside the crib
33:57
Speaker 13: for like maybe three and a half hours. I'm like,
33:59
Speaker 13: we look suspect as hell. It's a were sitting there.
34:03
Speaker 13: I'm like, yo, if I was there, I start shooting.
34:05
Speaker 4: I hope they don't. So we sitting there.
34:07
Speaker 13: Finally we leave, and then when they had it was
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Speaker 13: a radio station that I was. I was hosting. They
34:12
Speaker 13: was I was coming out. Big was coming in and
34:13
Speaker 13: we laughed about it, but he remembered that. I'm like, Yo,
34:16
Speaker 13: this looks crazy to call with. And I'm like, yeah,
34:18
Speaker 13: we're sitting across from his crib. Now it's dark and
34:20
Speaker 13: he's two strangers that was just in the crib. I'm like, yeah,
34:23
Speaker 13: this is crazy. Then it was cell phone we were
34:30
Speaker 13: going to the The was bly no cell phones.
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Speaker 4: This was in ninety four.
34:39
Speaker 2: Write a lot for Total. I heard he used to
34:41
Speaker 2: write a lot for Total. No, that's not true, that's
34:43
Speaker 2: not true.
34:43
Speaker 1: That's I know.
34:45
Speaker 10: Yes, I just posted the other day and I wrote
34:48
Speaker 10: tell me what you want? Really, I mean, I said,
34:50
Speaker 10: tell me what you want?
34:51
Speaker 11: Tell me.
34:52
Speaker 10: So that's when Omar and I were just friends and
34:56
Speaker 10: he would drive out to Jersey and we would just
34:58
Speaker 10: listen to music free style, out of music.
35:00
Speaker 11: I played him. I was like, this is a song
35:02
Speaker 11: that they attracted. They just gave us. We just started freestyling,
35:06
Speaker 11: took the puff. He was like, yo, this is crazy.
35:09
Speaker 11: We played it. Faith came in, Faith pinned some more.
35:13
Speaker 3: That's made that album most people don't know was a rapper,
35:16
Speaker 3: adult rapper from course, a dancer and then dancing a rapper.
35:19
Speaker 11: Yeah, a singer.
35:21
Speaker 2: I didn't know the singer part.
35:22
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, I can't sing vision.
35:34
Speaker 9: Yeah.
35:34
Speaker 11: They were I think I want to say death Jam.
35:37
Speaker 10: Really yeah, they were like signed to death Jam and really.
35:41
Speaker 6: Sing yeah thank you.
35:48
Speaker 13: Yeah, but I remember, I remember he was in it
35:52
Speaker 13: before they sign.
35:54
Speaker 1: I want to asked she and Keemea back in the day,
36:02
Speaker 1: what made y'all decide to go up to the radio
36:04
Speaker 1: station and press. Wendy Williams like, what did she say
36:09
Speaker 1: to y'all that that caused y'all said, you know we got.
36:11
Speaker 4: To go see her there?
36:13
Speaker 1: No, hell no, wait before my time? How the nineties?
36:17
Speaker 16: Right, yeah, I think yeah, the window when it was
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Speaker 16: in the window, she just you know, and she was
36:30
Speaker 16: playing with our money.
36:31
Speaker 11: She just was disrespectful.
36:32
Speaker 10: Yeah, and we had already sent the warning and then
36:36
Speaker 10: she just kept saying like first Wendy was just like, oh,
36:39
Speaker 10: we got something.
36:40
Speaker 11: And then we came up. We came up to the
36:43
Speaker 11: radio station. We sang.
36:44
Speaker 10: She was like, oh we sang a cappella. She was like, oh,
36:46
Speaker 10: y'all can sing. And it was that it was just like, oh,
36:48
Speaker 10: that's your jersey, and I hear that they can't pay
36:51
Speaker 10: rent and they can't pay their rent and stuff, and
36:53
Speaker 10: we were like, you know what, enough is enough because
36:55
Speaker 10: at that time, that's all she was doing. It's like, listen,
36:58
Speaker 10: you know, when we get these optunities as black artists,
37:02
Speaker 10: we gotta uplift them and talk about your opporctivity that
37:05
Speaker 10: they do right instead of you give a moment a
37:08
Speaker 10: blitz of something that they did positive and then something
37:11
Speaker 10: that happened negative you're playing that all day.
37:14
Speaker 11: So we were just like, enough is enough. K was like,
37:16
Speaker 11: can we go up there?
37:22
Speaker 9: Because I didn't you know, I know, politically we would
37:24
Speaker 9: have been in trouble for we just went up there.
37:26
Speaker 9: So we asked permission and he didn't say.
37:29
Speaker 10: He was like, go ahead, was like, what is that
37:34
Speaker 10: that you had to say? And she was like no, no, no,
37:37
Speaker 10: talk that stuff right now. And then her her husband
37:40
Speaker 10: at the time security, he had said something to our
37:42
Speaker 10: security like come on, man, come on, and she ran
37:44
Speaker 10: to the car. She got in the car in the
37:47
Speaker 10: middle finger and then we never heard no more from her.
37:53
Speaker 1: She just tells the story. You say, y'all sent her
37:54
Speaker 1: a warner was you all want to sit the fish?
37:56
Speaker 13: No, I don't really want you to. Boss said that
38:06
Speaker 13: dead fish in the male.
38:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody said that sleeps with the fishes.
38:10
Speaker 13: Yet he said that. She said that. I was Boston
38:13
Speaker 13: messing piece to Boss.
38:16
Speaker 2: Around that time.
38:17
Speaker 4: It happened around the time when I just signed and
38:19
Speaker 4: had just met her. Shout out there too. She passed
38:21
Speaker 4: a few years ago. But yeah, I didn't even know
38:25
Speaker 4: about that, Wendy.
38:26
Speaker 13: You used to I can't say nothing about Wendy because
38:28
Speaker 13: she would find out stuff about me, but she never
38:30
Speaker 13: she would call me and be like, look this was
38:32
Speaker 13: I'm hearing and she would send me the faxes. I
38:35
Speaker 13: don't know why she looked out for me. I'm glad
38:37
Speaker 13: she did because some of it some of it was
38:40
Speaker 13: dead No, not a crush.
38:42
Speaker 1: On me, right, But the reason I missed that was
38:45
Speaker 1: because y'all was able to pull up on people. Now,
38:48
Speaker 1: people just be in the basement behind the computers talking.
38:52
Speaker 5: That's the worst Internet.
38:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta go, guys. Damn, I don't know why
38:58
Speaker 2: they said.
39:01
Speaker 7: All right, real quick? All right, I went two more questions.
39:04
Speaker 7: Did y'all like Tianna Taylor?
39:08
Speaker 9: Uh?
39:09
Speaker 7: How you want it?
39:10
Speaker 1: Right?
39:10
Speaker 7: Because she's sampled? Tell me y'all like that?
39:14
Speaker 9: Yeah?
39:16
Speaker 7: I love that? Okay, perfect and k King Holmes is
39:21
Speaker 7: on it as well.
39:22
Speaker 8: But yeah, I thought that was that was about that
39:24
Speaker 8: took back you know what I'm saying, Like, I thought that.
39:27
Speaker 11: Was dope, stay tuned saying something with that.
39:31
Speaker 7: Okay, at.
39:35
Speaker 8: Case, yo, the best man I can be now with
39:39
Speaker 8: all those egos you got, Jim tyres r o in yourself,
39:45
Speaker 8: how did that studio session go?
39:47
Speaker 7: I felt like it.
39:49
Speaker 13: Was cool, but I'm gonna tell you it probably would
39:51
Speaker 13: have not been as cool. But it's Jimmy, Jimmy, Terry Lewis,
39:53
Speaker 13: so you're gonna kind of act right even if you
39:56
Speaker 13: don't want to.
39:56
Speaker 4: Okay, So it's them.
39:58
Speaker 7: Did y'all record at once?
39:59
Speaker 4: Like we all flew in him card at the same time. Yo,
40:02
Speaker 4: I was the last one.
40:03
Speaker 13: I got there because my flight got delayed, but yeah,
40:05
Speaker 13: we was all there. Actually, I was having a party
40:07
Speaker 13: at Jimmy's a platinum party at night that I missed
40:10
Speaker 13: because I had to go up there and do that.
40:11
Speaker 13: But it was cool because it's Jam and Lewis, Like,
40:13
Speaker 13: you ain't gonna get in there, and I asked with them.
40:16
Speaker 7: That was the funniest music video I've ever seen.
40:19
Speaker 4: I'll be seeing the memes now.
40:20
Speaker 8: Y'all was going in soho who did the most?
40:24
Speaker 4: I don't know. I was worried about me at the
40:26
Speaker 4: talking about in the video.
40:27
Speaker 7: Shoot, who do you feel did the most?
40:31
Speaker 9: Back then?
40:35
Speaker 4: Yeah?
40:36
Speaker 7: Yeah, but who do you think did the most? Res
40:38
Speaker 7: definitely did the most.
40:39
Speaker 13: I think he probably out of r L in Terre's Okay,
40:43
Speaker 13: because I seen the mean recent he was like, yo,
40:45
Speaker 13: Terry's threw the hat and face.
40:47
Speaker 4: I'm like, I never noticed that. I think that was
40:49
Speaker 4: a I think he was throwing it and he walked.
40:51
Speaker 4: I don't know.
40:52
Speaker 2: I was high.
40:54
Speaker 13: I was high, and I'm looking at them. I'm like, yeah,
40:57
Speaker 13: I'm not doing all that. Hit the blood again.
40:59
Speaker 4: I like, I'm not. Yes, We're my glasses.
41:01
Speaker 7: That's one of my favorite songs.
41:02
Speaker 8: But I just always wanted to ask one of y'all
41:04
Speaker 8: who did the most, because the most was done?
41:06
Speaker 13: Yeah, it was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, now that it
41:09
Speaker 13: wasn't No Jamie lewis there, so I already knew that
41:11
Speaker 13: was gonna be different from the session.
41:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was gonna be a thing.
41:15
Speaker 7: Yeah, So that's what I wanted to Yeah.
41:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, when the talk kicks off, what do you want
41:18
Speaker 1: fans to feel when they see all of y'all on stage?
41:23
Speaker 5: That nostalgia?
41:24
Speaker 6: Man, we want, we want, we want how we're talking
41:26
Speaker 6: about the nineties and and just bringing back that area
41:29
Speaker 6: we won't we want with so much BS that's going
41:32
Speaker 6: on in the world, that we want to be what
41:34
Speaker 6: we set out to be, which is a refuge for
41:36
Speaker 6: all that BS.
41:37
Speaker 5: You know that's going on in the in the real world.
41:39
Speaker 6: So if we can give you an hour, an hour
41:42
Speaker 6: and a half, three hours of just being able to
41:45
Speaker 6: separate yourself from bills and these bad ass kids, hours
41:50
Speaker 6: just for a little while. Like that's that's what we're
41:52
Speaker 6: you know, that's our mission. You know, we want we
41:54
Speaker 6: want to feel the nostalgia. I want to go back
41:57
Speaker 6: and listen to all the records that because we're in
41:59
Speaker 6: the you know, rehearsal now and in total show is amazing, tough.
42:04
Speaker 10: So it was one twelve, crazy high energy when everybody
42:08
Speaker 10: have a good time to have you.
42:09
Speaker 5: Know, just have a good time, just reminisce.
42:11
Speaker 6: Yeah, November thirteenth, we will be in Brooklyn was the
42:21
Speaker 6: King Stairs King.
42:23
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll Stafford, Connecticut on the twelve twelve.
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Speaker 2: So many questions, you got to know, we appreciate it.
42:30
Speaker 2: I just gotta ask one. Mo'm sorry, no one else.
42:33
Speaker 9: Beat.
42:33
Speaker 2: Were y'all confused when you first heard that beat?
42:35
Speaker 4: No?
42:36
Speaker 2: No, because there was snares all over that place.
42:39
Speaker 11: We did not know what was going to be put
42:42
Speaker 11: over it?
42:43
Speaker 10: Okay, because that was Terry once again Terry Robinson.
42:46
Speaker 11: It's like, how are you going to write.
42:48
Speaker 4: Over the what I said?
42:50
Speaker 3: I heard?
42:51
Speaker 10: It went crazy. It's one of my favorites. Hard If
42:57
Speaker 10: we could just get all of those acts on on
43:00
Speaker 10: the stage one day, we're gonna stay hopeful.
43:03
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, wow, Bran, it's crazy. Alright.
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Speaker 3: Well, thank you guys for joining us. One twelve tons,
43:13
Speaker 3: get them, take it, and it's the Breakfast Club.
43:15
Speaker 2: Good Morning, hold every.
43:17
Speaker 4: Day a week ago.
43:18
Speaker 2: Click your glass up the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 4: Finish y'all. Dump