Latest / Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge / Twots Takes BravoCon 2025 (Part One- Britani Bateman)
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camera Judge.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and
- 0:11Speaker 2: a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp.
- 0:13Speaker 3: And Camra Judge, and we have a very.
- 0:16Speaker 4: Special guest, the first time guest.
- 0:19Speaker 3: Right it's a doorbell. Yes, yes, what's your announcement?
- 0:25Speaker 5: I haven't announced me.
- 0:26Speaker 6: I have a Lovia batement here that announcement.
- 0:31Speaker 1: How much that warms my heart to see you guys together.
- 0:34Speaker 6: I thought I had to do a jarge. I actually
- 0:36Speaker 6: do know because we've d MD a little bit.
- 0:38Speaker 1: And I've talked about it.
- 0:39Speaker 5: I know that I've had issues, So you do you
- 0:42Speaker 5: get it number and until.
- 0:45Speaker 1: You know you're guys seen together.
- 0:49Speaker 3: Relationships right now? Are with kids?
- 0:51Speaker 1: With the kids?
- 0:52Speaker 6: Yes?
- 0:52Speaker 3: Sorry I heard them?
- 0:55Speaker 4: Now this is your first Bravo con right, yes, yes,
- 0:58Speaker 4: Now we're coming off an episodisode where my heart was
- 1:02Speaker 4: breaking for you.
- 1:04Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 1:05Speaker 3: I was really.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Upset about the throwing the even though I was annoyed
- 1:10Speaker 2: by the fact that the unicorn came, I was even.
- 1:12Speaker 3: More annoyed when he went overboard.
- 1:14Speaker 6: Oh that's sweet, little Uni.
- 1:18Speaker 5: It was yeah, I mean it was kind of silly.
- 1:20Speaker 1: It was kind of silly, but you guys have a
- 1:22Speaker 1: lot of costumes on.
- 1:23Speaker 3: Your show, and I'm getting a little over.
- 1:25Speaker 5: No, we don't.
- 1:26Speaker 3: Yes, before we even we were talking about it. What
- 1:33Speaker 3: was going on? Did you have? Was that Hannah or
- 1:36Speaker 3: spray tan?
- 1:37Speaker 5: Did you see that?
- 1:38Speaker 6: Yes?
- 1:39Speaker 5: What blood tattoos?
- 1:40Speaker 6: You guys? Those were those are on theme. But the
- 1:43Speaker 6: next day, like I wouldn't come off.
- 1:46Speaker 3: Blood tattoo, then uterual.
- 1:50Speaker 6: Zombie makeup from the knife didn't look like a big scratch.
- 1:55Speaker 3: I thought it was a spray tan.
- 1:57Speaker 1: I thought it was a henna tattoo.
- 1:59Speaker 6: I was just happy to have taken a shower, Like, honestly,
- 2:04Speaker 6: it's okay that it didn't come off.
- 2:06Speaker 5: I was just like whatever, we couldn't tell.
- 2:09Speaker 4: But after that so funny or whatever it was, the
- 2:11Speaker 4: zombie making blood makeup. We see you literally like the
- 2:17Speaker 4: aftermath of being on the plane, and I really liked
- 2:21Speaker 4: all the girls. Most of the girls rallied around you
- 2:23Speaker 4: on that.
- 2:24Speaker 5: Yeah, how bad was you guys? It was?
- 2:28Speaker 6: It was probably my third most traumatic thing I've ever
- 2:30Speaker 6: been through in my life.
- 2:33Speaker 3: Where was filment?
- 2:36Speaker 5: Did you you know what? Because that was the last
- 2:39Speaker 5: thing on my mind.
- 2:40Speaker 6: I had my headphones on and I was watching Crazy
- 2:43Speaker 6: Rich Asians, and I I just you know, zoned in,
- 2:46Speaker 6: and I was just trying to not hear, and I
- 2:49Speaker 6: was trying to lean forward and not have my back
- 2:51Speaker 6: hit the seat, and I was just trying to hold
- 2:53Speaker 6: it together. Like the last thing I wanted was any
- 2:56Speaker 6: attention on myself. And I was so embarrassed that someone kept,
- 3:00Speaker 6: you know, the flight attendant kept coming up to ask
- 3:02Speaker 6: if I was.
- 3:03Speaker 5: Okay because I was like crying, Yeah, cry.
- 3:05Speaker 6: I wasn't crying. I was trying not to cry. I
- 3:07Speaker 6: was trying to be like stoic and focused and you
- 3:12Speaker 6: know what I mean, Like was trying to not let
- 3:14Speaker 6: anything break me. But by the last in the descent,
- 3:18Speaker 6: when it really started and everyone seat belted in so
- 3:21Speaker 6: everyone's like, why didn't they switch seats with you? Because
- 3:23Speaker 6: it didn't really ramp up in earnest until the last
- 3:27Speaker 6: fifteen twenty minutes when we were in full descent.
- 3:29Speaker 5: You know, it was an international flight. You go really
- 3:32Speaker 5: high and then it.
- 3:32Speaker 6: Takes a while to come down, so there was nothing
- 3:35Speaker 6: anybody could do other than Screamuddy. That was when everybody
- 3:38Speaker 6: started screaming at each other because it got really loud
- 3:42Speaker 6: and then they were screaming at hard.
- 3:43Speaker 2: So that's why I that a removal from the plane
- 3:47Speaker 2: or anything like that. We were guys already descent.
- 3:49Speaker 6: Right, So when Meredith says, and I hope I can say,
- 3:53Speaker 6: you're not going to get in trouble with like the
- 3:55Speaker 6: details details. But yeah, like when Meredith says, it was
- 3:58Speaker 6: only fifteen minutes, Yeah, the the worst part was, you know,
- 4:02Speaker 6: the last twenty thirty get your hair pulled.
- 4:05Speaker 5: Yeah, and by wholeaning to get.
- 4:08Speaker 3: Up to go to the restroom.
- 4:09Speaker 6: Possibly, I mean I again, I was in my little
- 4:12Speaker 6: bubble and I couldn't tell you who was what and where.
- 4:16Speaker 6: But other people saw it. Yeah, my seat mate saw it,
- 4:19Speaker 6: the flight attendant saw it. Heather across the way saw it,
- 4:22Speaker 6: Whitney across the.
- 4:23Speaker 5: Aisle saw it.
- 4:24Speaker 6: And I was just zoned in trying to focus and
- 4:27Speaker 6: please don't cry, Please don't cry, Please don't cry.
- 4:29Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on the way that Lisa kind
- 4:31Speaker 2: of switched her views, like she said originally.
- 4:34Speaker 3: She had your her husband.
- 4:36Speaker 2: Yeah, like she was like it was insane, like while
- 4:38Speaker 2: she was eating the nuggets and said she was unhinged
- 4:40Speaker 2: do something like that to her husband, and then when
- 4:42Speaker 2: she met with the girls, her story changed a little bit.
- 4:46Speaker 6: Oh man, I think that she's just trying to be
- 4:49Speaker 6: a really good friend to Meredith.
- 4:50Speaker 5: Which I can respect.
- 4:52Speaker 6: But at the same time, she definitely has drawn a
- 4:54Speaker 6: line in the sands sadly, and I'm not on her
- 4:57Speaker 6: side of the line.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Was Meredith put on pause for a little bit after
- 5:00Speaker 1: that happened?
- 5:01Speaker 6: You know? I don't think I can speak to that. Yeah,
- 5:03Speaker 6: but so yes, look at my eyes. I look at
- 5:06Speaker 6: your eyes.
- 5:07Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because there was a lot of talk on
- 5:09Speaker 4: social media about her being put on pause because something happened.
- 5:13Speaker 4: I know when she did do a scene, it was
- 5:17Speaker 4: a few days after that event and she met with Mary.
- 5:20Speaker 4: The look on her she was just like smiling, like
- 5:23Speaker 4: nothing ever happened. It was a very weird, awkward scene.
- 5:27Speaker 5: But she had to have.
- 5:28Speaker 2: That scene with Mary because Mary was the only one
- 5:31Speaker 2: that I think could have actually gotten her to listen
- 5:33Speaker 2: a little bit.
- 5:34Speaker 3: But do you agree.
- 5:35Speaker 6: Arry is very Oh, I mean, Mary's kind of like
- 5:40Speaker 6: the salt of the group, Like the salt of Mary
- 5:42Speaker 6: is not a liar. She's not a liar. She is
- 5:44Speaker 6: who she is, probably on and off Camera's up. Camera's
- 5:48Speaker 6: down more than any of us, believe it or not.
- 5:51Speaker 6: And so I think you're right, Teddy, that was exactly
- 5:53Speaker 6: who needed to meet with Meredith.
- 5:55Speaker 1: But yeah, there was no of us.
- 5:57Speaker 3: Yeah, because she's scared of Mary Meredith.
- 6:00Speaker 4: I mean, Meredith looked nervous about meeting with Mary.
- 6:04Speaker 5: Interesting take.
- 6:05Speaker 6: Yeah, that's how I took it. It was hard to watch it,
- 6:07Speaker 6: you guys. It was hard to watch it back, Like
- 6:09Speaker 6: I had to watch it in pieces.
- 6:11Speaker 5: I just pause and then like go have a little
- 6:13Speaker 5: cry because it was it was really traumatic.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Are you in a better place with Meredith now?
- 6:21Speaker 5: No, I haven't.
- 6:22Speaker 1: I sawman.
- 6:23Speaker 2: I was walking in and either she didn't recognize me
- 6:25Speaker 2: or she was trying to avoid me because we're walking
- 6:29Speaker 2: through and I was like.
- 6:30Speaker 5: Shoot, oh the ship.
- 6:32Speaker 3: Well either she did bron Win.
- 6:36Speaker 2: Oh really Yeah, she was coming in as I was
- 6:39Speaker 2: coming out. Oh interesting, and I did a little.
- 6:41Speaker 5: Of what the sweet, the hospitality sweet or checking in.
- 6:45Speaker 1: I haven't seen anybody, well, no one.
- 6:47Speaker 2: That was awkward enough for me to not have to
- 6:50Speaker 2: see anyone again.
- 6:51Speaker 4: Oh I say things on the pod and listen, we're
- 6:58Speaker 4: only recapping.
- 6:59Speaker 1: What you see as viewers.
- 7:01Speaker 5: Yeah, and we both but you also get it. We
- 7:03Speaker 5: get it, you get it.
- 7:05Speaker 4: She recaps me, and she's like this asshole, you know,
- 7:08Speaker 4: like I get it. Yeah, I give me an asshole.
- 7:10Speaker 3: I no, I had to recapt this ship show this way.
- 7:14Speaker 3: It's so funny.
- 7:15Speaker 6: You know.
- 7:16Speaker 5: I love your friendship.
- 7:17Speaker 6: It's just fun. It's fantastic. You guys really understand each other.
- 7:20Speaker 6: We love each other.
- 7:21Speaker 1: We call each other out.
- 7:22Speaker 5: I love That's that's real friendship.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Sure for sure.
- 7:26Speaker 2: Are there any housewife neubies that you're excited to meet
- 7:29Speaker 2: this weekend?
- 7:30Speaker 5: You know, I'm I'm embarrassed to say you'd have to.
- 7:33Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 7:36Speaker 3: Watch any of the shows.
- 7:37Speaker 6: I've tried to, and I've tried to watch like to
- 7:40Speaker 6: prepare for this, and I just between like my job
- 7:43Speaker 6: and my kids and like everything I've going on.
- 7:44Speaker 5: I have a hard time watching TV at all.
- 7:46Speaker 1: Are you still with Jared?
- 7:48Speaker 6: You just.
- 7:50Speaker 1: I'm gone.
- 7:52Speaker 5: I already I might look at if you could see
- 7:59Speaker 5: Olivia's face.
- 8:00Speaker 3: Every time I hear Jared.
- 8:02Speaker 5: You can't quit him kiss a second.
- 8:06Speaker 1: You can't quit him. Do you want to throw water
- 8:09Speaker 1: on you?
- 8:09Speaker 6: Maybe it doesn't want it doesn't guys, I thought a
- 8:14Speaker 6: fun TikTok idea would be like everywhere I go Bravo con,
- 8:17Speaker 6: everyone's got a little thing of water and everyone.
- 8:19Speaker 5: Just throws.
- 8:22Speaker 3: You took it so well.
- 8:24Speaker 5: It was all in jest. It was all just good fun.
- 8:27Speaker 5: But no, I would have got it got dark, the
- 8:31Speaker 5: water got dark. Yeah, it was when I thought of
- 8:34Speaker 5: water in my lap. You know where they were just
- 8:37Speaker 5: picking up?
- 8:38Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 8:38Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 8:39Speaker 3: Do you think that Captain Jason and Heather made out?
- 8:42Speaker 6: You know I you guys are like she said, we
- 8:48Speaker 6: hooked up.
- 8:50Speaker 3: She hooking up.
- 8:52Speaker 6: There's a person.
- 8:56Speaker 3: To me, hooking up is just kissing. What is hooking
- 8:58Speaker 3: up to boning? Oh it is, it's boning down your age?
- 9:04Speaker 5: But yes, thank you.
- 9:09Speaker 4: Yes, you're hooking up and you're forty.
- 9:13Speaker 3: You are slipping it in.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Oh my god, unless.
- 9:16Speaker 3: You so you're not you're making out.
- 9:19Speaker 5: No, you're in denial.
- 9:20Speaker 3: No, if I'm you're hooking.
- 9:22Speaker 5: Up with it, you're acting like you're not hooking up.
- 9:25Speaker 5: I would just say that's what it means.
- 9:27Speaker 3: Hooking up.
- 9:28Speaker 1: I'm making somebody.
- 9:29Speaker 2: I don't know nobody, I make out somebody somebody.
- 9:34Speaker 1: No, you're not gonna say I hooked up with somebody.
- 9:37Speaker 1: You didn't slip it in?
- 9:38Speaker 3: Yes, you do.
- 9:40Speaker 5: He is the semantics of what hook it up. Hooking
- 9:43Speaker 5: up means.
- 9:44Speaker 3: Okay, last time I hooked up with Jared? Oh god.
- 9:50Speaker 1: And I'm not talking making.
- 9:52Speaker 5: Slipping the fifth, I plead the fifth. My daughter sitting
- 9:55Speaker 5: right there, I know what she.
- 9:57Speaker 3: Already told us.
- 9:58Speaker 5: You're having a noncommittal makeout or two. I heard nickmo.
- 10:02Speaker 5: That's a Utah term.
- 10:03Speaker 6: What is a nickmo? Non committal non committal makeouts?
- 10:07Speaker 2: No, but we know so many we know about soaking,
- 10:11Speaker 2: talking about we know about bed jumping.
- 10:15Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that true.
- 10:16Speaker 2: Yes, yes, jumping is one person lays flat and then
- 10:20Speaker 2: another person jumps on the bed, so that then you
- 10:23Speaker 2: have friction and movement.
- 10:25Speaker 5: Yes, it's true.
- 10:25Speaker 4: But are you naked one of the people are, presumably.
- 10:30Speaker 1: So I don't get it.
- 10:32Speaker 3: Like I'm naked laying on a bed.
- 10:34Speaker 2: Then a man gets on top of me, naked maybe,
- 10:37Speaker 2: and he may or may not be sorry hard, And
- 10:42Speaker 2: then I.
- 10:43Speaker 3: Have Brittany jump on that bed. It's a threesome. No,
- 10:47Speaker 3: she's jumping on it.
- 10:49Speaker 1: Okay, So.
- 10:51Speaker 4: But I'm not just a tip but I slept No, No,
- 10:55Speaker 4: but I don't get this.
- 10:56Speaker 2: It's because I'm not making that effort to pump.
- 11:00Speaker 5: You know, Ted, do you know what an awful lot
- 11:02Speaker 5: about that? Because she's details.
- 11:04Speaker 4: Listen, I'm l d S your sister called dry Mormon.
- 11:09Speaker 3: Maybe. Oh my god, I'm dying right now. Oh my god, Ted,
- 11:16Speaker 3: I'm so funny.
- 11:17Speaker 1: Really you know all this?
- 11:18Speaker 3: Did you investigate this? I could go on and on?
- 11:25Speaker 5: Really, how do you know this?
- 11:27Speaker 3: Because I have a lot.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Of friends that live in Utah?
- 11:32Speaker 5: My god, is dying being okay? Acceptable? Like that?
- 11:37Speaker 3: Yeah, that's totally fine.
- 11:38Speaker 5: But it's about that.
- 11:40Speaker 1: So is soaking? Okay?
- 11:42Speaker 5: No, soaking is not okay.
- 11:44Speaker 3: Soaking with a bed jump.
- 11:46Speaker 6: You'd get seriously reprimanded that it's a loopholes.
- 11:49Speaker 1: It's is non intended, that's fucking.
- 11:57Speaker 6: Yes.
- 11:57Speaker 5: Yeah, for all intents and purposes.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay.
- 12:08Speaker 4: So you and I have not partaken in soaking or
- 12:13Speaker 4: jump jumping.
- 12:15Speaker 3: No, not in the last How many days have you taken?
- 12:21Speaker 3: You know?
- 12:22Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna give you guys the real tea?
- 12:23Speaker 6: Are you ready? This is to teas in the pot,
- 12:27Speaker 6: and you guys deserve this tea. We've been friends for
- 12:30Speaker 6: a long time, and I mean just friends, like platonic friends.
- 12:35Speaker 5: We may have had a Nick Mo or two. Do
- 12:36Speaker 5: you remember what that stands for? What is it?
- 12:39Speaker 6: Noncommittal makingdal makeout but literally non com no soaking, no
- 12:44Speaker 6: bed jumping, and no actual real anything for a long time.
- 12:49Speaker 6: Because I just declared us to be friends and I
- 12:53Speaker 6: am not going to sleep with anyone unless I'm in
- 12:56Speaker 6: a committed relationship.
- 12:57Speaker 5: So there you have it.
- 12:58Speaker 3: So would he be in a committed relationship with you
- 13:01Speaker 3: if you.
- 13:01Speaker 5: Wanted it, he says, he does. You guys are getting
- 13:04Speaker 5: through Guys like, no, no, no, I love this. I
- 13:10Speaker 5: feel like I'm, you know, just hanging out with my
- 13:12Speaker 5: best here. You're like, he says, he does.
- 13:16Speaker 6: But I honestly am too kind of traumatized. I'm a
- 13:19Speaker 6: little triggered to even venture that direction until I feel Yeah,
- 13:25Speaker 6: until I feel safer, I would say.
- 13:27Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes that.
- 13:28Speaker 1: Were you happy to see Uni back after you took
- 13:30Speaker 1: a dip in the I.
- 13:32Speaker 5: Don't know where you and he is?
- 13:33Speaker 1: You guys, you.
- 13:34Speaker 6: Have no idea he's with the below deadcast. Oh my god,
- 13:38Speaker 6: he's been all over the world as far as I know.
- 13:40Speaker 1: Oh my god, you were Uni?
- 13:43Speaker 3: Hold on?
- 13:44Speaker 2: Can you re record what the message said for us
- 13:47Speaker 2: on the pod?
- 13:49Speaker 5: Hello?
- 13:49Speaker 3: Baby?
- 13:49Speaker 5: Wait, good night? Baby you are loved? Does that mean
- 13:53Speaker 5: good night?
- 13:54Speaker 3: Baby?
- 13:55Speaker 5: You are love?
- 13:56Speaker 1: That go that low?
- 13:58Speaker 5: I'm like straining, No, that was perfect.
- 14:00Speaker 1: That was so cute. We right before you went on
- 14:04Speaker 1: this trip.
- 14:05Speaker 6: So this is how uni happened. We were on a
- 14:08Speaker 6: date and we were having a great time dinner.
- 14:10Speaker 5: Walking through the monks.
- 14:11Speaker 6: We were going to get, like, I don't know, shopping
- 14:13Speaker 6: for something and we passed by buildebear and.
- 14:16Speaker 5: He's it has to be He says, yeah, he walked
- 14:19Speaker 5: by and he goes, oh, I already.
- 14:20Speaker 6: I gave these to my kids for you know, once
- 14:22Speaker 6: a year every year, and I recorded a message and
- 14:25Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, that's so cute. And he's like, you
- 14:26Speaker 6: never had a build a bear? And I'm like no,
- 14:29Speaker 6: So he's like, get in here. So he took me inside.
- 14:31Speaker 6: We picked out a build a bear. He calls me
- 14:33Speaker 6: his unicorn because of the Hot Crazy Matrix. Did you
- 14:36Speaker 6: guys see that video the Hot Crazy Matrix where it's
- 14:40Speaker 6: like the hotter you are, the crazier you must be,
- 14:43Speaker 6: and the more men will put up it makes sense
- 14:45Speaker 6: called the hot Okay, so the hot but lo crazy
- 14:51Speaker 6: area of the spectrum is called the Unicorn. It doesn't
- 14:54Speaker 6: exist all right, because so he calls me his unicorn
- 14:58Speaker 6: because I'm hot and not crazy ultimate complot.
- 15:01Speaker 5: So we picked out the.
- 15:01Speaker 6: Unicorn, which usually because I'm crazy way well you up,
- 15:10Speaker 6: France is just kidding. So then he recorded that you.
- 15:13Speaker 5: Know, good night baby, you are loved and and then
- 15:17Speaker 5: we were on a thirty day break.
- 15:18Speaker 6: But then he showed up right before I went to
- 15:20Speaker 6: pack for you know, for Canawan, and slipped it into
- 15:24Speaker 6: my suitcase and I opened it up and there was
- 15:27Speaker 6: unicorn that he made for me a month earlier.
- 15:29Speaker 5: It was really because it was really sweet.
- 15:32Speaker 6: It wasn't meant to be like, oh, I sleep with
- 15:35Speaker 6: you know, animals at night and birds are chirping and
- 15:37Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
- 15:39Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was cute.
- 15:41Speaker 1: He's part of the Osmond family, the famous Osmond family.
- 15:45Speaker 1: So have you met Donnie and Marie Osmond.
- 15:50Speaker 6: He took me to Donnie's show about a year ago
- 15:52Speaker 6: in Vegas, which was amazing, so talented. We hung out
- 15:56Speaker 6: afterwards in his green room was dressing room, so nice.
- 16:00Speaker 6: And Marie I met at his uncle's wedding. So one
- 16:04Speaker 6: of the main Osmond brothers passed away last year, which
- 16:08Speaker 6: is sad. He's the first to go. Yeah, and that's
- 16:10Speaker 6: where I Metmory. She's she's darling as well.
- 16:13Speaker 1: How do they feel about him being on the show?
- 16:15Speaker 6: Oh?
- 16:15Speaker 5: I think they hate it.
- 16:17Speaker 3: I was gonna say, they can't possibly lie.
- 16:19Speaker 6: There's no way they Yeah, I really do think they
- 16:21Speaker 6: hate it. I think it's like their worst nightmare, to
- 16:23Speaker 6: be honest.
- 16:24Speaker 2: Do you think since being a part of the Real
- 16:26Speaker 2: Housewives of Salt Lake City they've been hard on you?
- 16:29Speaker 2: Harder on you than other people who the girls?
- 16:35Speaker 5: Do you think that they're so? What reframed the question
- 16:38Speaker 5: so the so?
- 16:39Speaker 2: Since being on Salt Lake City, do you think the
- 16:41Speaker 2: girls have been harder on you than they've been on
- 16:43Speaker 2: other newbies in the past.
- 16:45Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know. That's a really good question. What
- 16:50Speaker 5: do you guys think? Yes, yes, do you think so?
- 16:52Speaker 5: And I don't. If that's the case, I don't.
- 16:54Speaker 3: I've been harder on you, We've been harder.
- 16:57Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 16:58Speaker 4: I feel like this episode that just happened was exactly
- 17:04Speaker 4: what we needed for you, really, because I feel like
- 17:07Speaker 4: the girls finally rallied around you. It showed a more
- 17:11Speaker 4: sensitive side to you, and the girls were more sympathetic towards.
- 17:15Speaker 1: You, and I felt like we needed that.
- 17:18Speaker 4: I mean, obviously you didn't need it in the way
- 17:20Speaker 4: that it happened, but we needed The fans needed that