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Katie Hayes joins the show! · Day Drinking With Dog

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Drinking drinking than drinking drinking. Welcome back day drinking a dog. I have
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a very special guest today being that is uh, it is May, which
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is Mental Health Awareness month, and that brings me on the show. Katie
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Hay's a good friend of Mitte. Katie. How are you doing today?
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I'm great. Thanks for having me, of course, of course, thanks
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for coming on the show. It's a little later. It's not a little
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day drinking show. It is not. That's okay, I'll have some night
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drinks and you're going to be a good girl to the show's over. I
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am. I am going to wait until the end. So you are an
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LPCA. I am that is a licensed professional counselor, Yes, I am.
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What's the A? The A is associate. There is a time between
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um graduation and uh. What's important to know is everyone needs to be under
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supervision, which is basically extra training, which is exactly what you want and
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need for your helping professionals. So it's just basically a amount of time in
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between graduation and accruing those hours. Got you, I know you were just
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back. You did some public speaking. I did, and actually I don't
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know which is more out of my comfort zone being not really on camera right
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now, or talking at a big conference down to New Orleans, which I'd
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never been before. But yeah, I went down to New Orleans to talk
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about the importance of training professionals to work with kids nice. So it's funny
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that someone in your profession has a lot of anxiety over you could say that.
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Yeah, I'm happy you bring that up because it could be a shock
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to some listeners. But we are all human beings, so we can be
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affected by the same things. Yeah, can can we start to show off
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with? You know, there's certain levels of everything, anxiety, depression,
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suicide, all sorts of different avenues. I would like to talk about depression
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first, mainly because my Bruins had a record setting year and they got outs
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it in the first round as a one seed. And I will say this
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about myself, and I learned this in I think I probably learned of being
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a Red Sox fan my whole life with all the disappointment. But when the
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Patriots won their three Super Bowls and then they lost to the Giants after they
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went undefeated, I literally I don't know if it was a a switch turned
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off in my sports wacky head, but I get over losses so quickly now,
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like the next morning, woke up like that, you know what,
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Life's gonna still go on. That's how I grew up a kid. Though
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I always die hard everything, and I still pretty much am. Like I'll
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watch all the big I'll watch my teams till I die. But like when
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the Bruins lost the other night, like I was pissed. I think now
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more I get upset because I just don't want to read the shit online.
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Yeah, like I know seven no one was really chattering on Twitter and and
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and but now it's like, you know, people are tagging me and shit,
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and I don't really talk shit about other teams. No, I do
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know that about you. Yeah, and uh, you know, I get
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it. I don't care, like I'll talk shit to someone's face just at
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a bar, you know, talking crap but um but but joking aside.
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You know, I know a lot of people that truly get depressed when their
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teams lose of all ages. Really, Yes, I know it's kind of
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a wacky way to talking about depression, and that's not the same depression.
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Like I said, there's many levels of but I know some you know,
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I know some we won't name names, but there's some Ranger fans out there
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today that are probably not getting out of bed. You know, I appreciate
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that because I did watch and I was disappointed. Talk about different levels,
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but you know, as someone that does enjoy watching Game or two, I
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definitely was a little bit affected by Game seven. Like as we touched upon,
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there are different levels. I was a little sad. Some people could
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be depressed, some people could be angry. But that's kind of going back
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to the mental health perspective. Is everything you know isn't the same for everyone,
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and there are different levels of how we feel, and there are different
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levels of how we act and how we react. Right, So you deal
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mostly with children, correct, I have a good range? Yeah, I
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do. I do enjoy working with kids. I know in the profession it's
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a little harder to come by because not everyone is necessarily trained for kids.
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It's much more and anyone who has reached out for UM helping professional UM it
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is very common to say, you know, you call someone they say,
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oh, we only take over twenty one, we only take over eighteen.
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But yeah, right now, I do work with a wide variety of ages
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UM, and I'm also slowly getting into my I don't want to say specialty,
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but an area of focus which is m counseling siblings of people with special
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needs. Okay, interesting, I think that's a It could be very stressful
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on the siblings, you know, depending on the level of special needs as
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well. But uh, yeah, you know, I was lucky enough to
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you know, had one brother and we were all good. But I can
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imagine how much stress that can cause their lives and attention they might not get
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right, you know, from the parents because of that. Right. It
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just it it can be presented differently from one sibling to another with the same
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intent. And this is not you know, specifically specifically for parents, but
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just in general, um where you know, in some areas people might need
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more support and and as this is going to be most likely the theme for
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this is it's very individually based. Right one person can say I never got
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any attention, and the next person can say, oh, I had all
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the support, right or or they could be overwhelmed with taking care of the
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siblings. There's a lot of a lot of work that goes into the cutting
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house. Severe their disability could be well, that's great. I think that's
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a that's a good avenue that probably a lot of people don't even think exists,
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you know, yeah, and it is, and it's ever predominant um
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you know, in in twenty twenty three right now. You know, obviously
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you have your hippo rules you follow. Yes, and again I appreciate you
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coming on the show. So if there's any question, I ask and just
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you know, say hippoptos, Okay, I don't. Yeah, absolutely,
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and I'm I'm happy that you brought that up because you know, we know,
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majority of us know in physical medicine, you know, the pediatrician,
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the chiropractor, whatnot. Those are all professionals that go by a code of
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hippa and not releasing you know, we all get those signatures, um our
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our signature on those forms saying like who can we release this information to?
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You know, if you're not home, can I call your spouse or your
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parents? Say like oh, they have strapped throat helping professionals um also have
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that kind of relationship with their clients where I'm not on here saying you know,
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I had I had a seventeen year old that said this like nope,
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like that is absolutely confident, confidential, thank you. Yeah, um,
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yeah, so uh all right, well let's let's you know, as far
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as depression, I'm gonna make the show a little personal about myself. I
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talk about it a lot. Depression is not one thing I have, though,
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like I don't. I don't feel depressed. I never feels I don't
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know if you link depression with suicidal tendencies, but I'm sure some of them
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might go hand in hand. We will get into anxiety for sure. But
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what are some of the things maybe some telling signs there might be that for
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someone who might feel they may be either depressed or just going through a tough
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time, maybe lost a loved one. When you've there's no it's so hard
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to express, but like, where is the time when they should actually seek
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someone like yourself? Or you know, should you almost do it right away
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just to nip it in the bud, you know, if there was a
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trauma in their life, or maybe there hasn't been and they're just maybe they
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work. You know, there could be so many different factors. But you
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know, you go through life rolling along, everything's fine, you got a
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good family, or you're single and you're happy being signaling, and all of
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a sudden you'd get into a rut like is that a good time to talk
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to somebody? I know people feel like, oh, if I'm talking to
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somebody, then I must be mental you know, right, right right?
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You need help? Right versus Hey, this could be really beneficial for you.
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And I think you touch upon a lot of things that people think about
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um in terms of when to seek help at any time. You know,
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it's never I think it's I'm sorry. I think it's healthy to seek help
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even if you're mentally healthy. Yeah, help, I mean talk to somebody.
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Yeah, it's an opinion. And what's important to note too, is
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you know this, you know, this show right now is not This is
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not in a substitution for anyone's mental health and therapy. Please, you know,
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seek out help if you need to, And this would this, this
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podcast is not a substitute for your own therapy work or therapy session. But
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is that an insult? I don't know. No, it's not, it's
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not. But I wouldn't suggest anyone calling me for help. Oh well,
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you know, I think, yeah, having an objective opinion like I am
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not Jeremy's helping professional. And I think that's important to note because I know
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him and he knows me, so I don't have an objective opinion because he
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could you know, I could be his his counselor, and he can come
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in and be like, I don't like my co worker. They were such
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a jerk. And I know a lot of his co workers, so I
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could say, you know what, he was the sweetest person to me the
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other day, and it's like, oh, well, they don't believe me
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because they know this person. So having that outside objective opinion is really crucial
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to you know, forming a positive relationship with your counselor or your therapists or
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your doctor, you know, whichever helping professional you do, UM fine and
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connect with, because this is this is just for you. This is for
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the individual, and whether it's after a trauma like you touched upon um there
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and you also touched upon like depression and on signs and whatnot. But they're
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you know, depression, people immediately think sadness. UM. But with with
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having a loss like you mentioned that, you know, that's more grief,
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which is very similar. But then you know, we can expand into like
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the time periods of like oh, you know, I've been depressed for two
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days versus I've been depressed for two years. Um, they're you know,
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they're they're there. How do you how do you diagnose it? Again,
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it's very individualized. Um you can you can look if you are a friend
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of someone that you're thinking, you know what, they're not themselves, you
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know they you know air quotes Joey used to always come and play golf with
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us every every Saturday. Now he doesn't even answer his phone. Like those
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are times to reach out and you know, with this being Mental Health Awareness
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Month, like take down that stigma of like of like suck it up or
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like you're fine, rub some dirt on it, you know whatever, and
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say like hey, like what's up in any language that you use, you
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know, like it could be like hey, I've been thinking about you and
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like what's going on? Or like, dude, what's happening? Like what's
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going on? Like okay, like you have you haven't you haven't been to
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trivia night and you were there every week, Like if there's something happening,
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like what what can I do for you? Like what do you need?
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Which you know, if you're listening, you're like I could never do that
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or like whatever. It goes a long way for the person that might be
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feeling like I can't tell anyone this because people will view me differently, right,
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you know, I don't. I'm I'm not saying I blame it,
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but you know, I watched a lot of TV, or I used to,
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and you know, all these pharmaceutical companies come on TV with their depression
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medication and the ads are like, you know, some chicks sitting in the
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corner of apartment with all the lights off and it's pouring rain and fucking she's
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clinically depressed, like like they stigmatize it and then you visualize it and then
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you're like, well, I'm not that girl. I'm not sitting in the
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dark. No, my lights are on, right, my lights are on.
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I just had friends over. Yeah. So I almost feel like people
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are missing it, like there might be depressed and they don't know it because
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they're not fitting the stereotype that's being portrayed on TV, you know. And
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that's why I asked before, like, how do you get to the point
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where you actually diagnose someone with it? Like I get it's individualized, but
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like you, as a professional, do you get to the point with a
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client? And I don't know if you don't say it out loud, but
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you write in your notes like yep, I want to put these guys on
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something, or if this person needs to seek higher help or okay, you
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know what I mean, Like I do, and um, I will say
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that I am not a prescriber. That is not a part of what I
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do. Obviously, there are other people that do, and medication can work
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for some and not for others. But to your point of the commercials,
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it is very misleading. Yeah. Yeah, because let's say, like you
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are I feeling, um, like just something's off, like like your your
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favorite things aren't your favorite things anymore, but like you're you're still, you
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know, making that two thirty tea time every week with your buddies and you're
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and you're laughing and you're having fun. Like then you go home and you
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see that commercial and you're like, well, maybe I wasn't feeling that way
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because my lights aren't off and I'm sitting in a corner crying. Like if
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you if you feel off, it's time to seek what you need. And
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there are people out there that are more than you, thinking, more than
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you know. They're ready to help you, and they want to help you,
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and they want to talk to you and say like, what's going on,
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Like, tell me about yourself, Like, what's been going on in
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the past couple of months? What did you you know? What do you
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like to do, what do you not like to do? What are your
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goals for being here? And what I will say because I like to focus
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a lot about feelings. Because I pose this question or kind of idea of
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you know, a tale as old as time. People will say like,
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well, where do you see yourself in five years? Oh? Well,
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I see myself with whatever. I have a yacht and not a CEO,
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like these grand things, which sure maybe they're achievable, maybe they're not.
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But I like to say, well, how do you want to feel in
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five years? Do you want to feel successful in this role? Or do
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you want to work seven hundred hours a week not see the people you care
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about, feel like, you know, you don't have a minute to breathe
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and never use your yacht that you wanted or or you know, just using
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that as the example of course whatever you're trying to achieve versus I have a
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work life balance. I get to see my excuse me for that. I
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get to see my friends and family. I feel supported, I feel connected.
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Um, you know, those those are the important things that we want
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to be present in our mind. Not overly so, but but maybe maybe
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prioritize. Yeah, you know, like, yeah, so your goal is
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to be a millionaire in five years, but let's go let's get there the
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right way. Yeah, you know, and maybe it takes ten Oh well
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sure you still never I never. I would never put a time limit on
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a monetary something like that. I would never do that because you just don't
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know. But a lot of people do, right right, I mean,
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I guess a lot of it's you know, what kind of job they're in,
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and sure how quickly they can rise and if they're really but I would
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I would say it. I'm no counselor. I would say do it when
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you're young, you know, you don't have a family or a girlfriend,
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and be the fucking most aggressive motherfucker you could be in the workforce, whatever
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industry you're in, and then ten years look back can be like all right,
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time to start a family or who knows. I'm just saying like,
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but during that ten year grind, are you burnt out? Are you not
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sleeping? Are you disconnected from your support system? Whether that's you know,
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the people at work or your your parents, or your kids, or you
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know, your neighbor. I'm forty nine years old. I haven't slept in
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forty nine years. My mom would probably say I did till I was about
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six. Yeah, but I just I can't sleep. I've never been able
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to. I've recently, in the last five years, started napping a little
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bit, not very often, but like I did the other day, I
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was like, oh, it's actually you know, a little rejuvenating. Yeah,
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you know, if I feel I feel tired, I'm like, fucking
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fuck it, I don't care what else am I gonna do. Well,
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it's those physical cues that your body len you know, like this is what
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I need, you know. And then I took some ambient for a while
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and it was like a worse hangover than drinking. It was weird, like
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a gain. I just feel groggy till about four in the afternoon. I
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said, you know, and I'll just you know, it is what it
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is. But I never really wanted to go the you know, the drug
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route. The mean, the medicinal route, and that will leader spread into
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anxiety because I didn't anxiety and depressure completely. I mean, they're completely different
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things in my Yeah, Uh, I have anxiety a lot, but I
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don't feel it drives any depression in me. If anything, i'd feel it's
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like I'm a little depressed that I have anxiety. Okay, Yeah, sure,
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it's the way I would look at it. I would say probably a
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good twenty years, the last twenty years I've had it. You know,
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we were talking about my childhood when you before the show, and you know,
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I'm a product of divorce when I was really young. My brother ended
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up living with my father. But it didn't affect me at all. If
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anything, that made me a stronger person. Uh, you know, as
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I would say that I had two Christmases, had two birthdays. You know,
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that was your view, that was my view on it. And I
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moved around a lot as a kid, finally settled down in high school in
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Madison, and then you know, been living around here the last thirty years.
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But always you know, it's probably why I ended up in a bar
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center. Just talk to anybody in any situation in any area. Don't really
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matter to me. Uh never had stage fright. I just never really suffered
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anything. It was just kind of like life's easy. And I'd say about
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twenty about twenty years ago, the little things here and there, like you
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know this, I get a whole slew of you know, symptoms in front
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of me here, you know, trebling, sweating, blah blah blah,
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all this stuff. Feeling yes for sure. And you know when my doctor
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said, oh, you know, you probably have a little anxiety and he
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put me on Luraza, PAM or something, I fuck, it didn't do
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nothing. Not that I maybe it did. I don't think it did.
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Took that for a couple of years. I just, with a cold turkey,
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said I'm not taking the ship anymore. And I haven't taking any sense.
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You know, I've popped as zannie before, you know, not from
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the street. You don't. I don't recommend any of that people, because
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we overall that. You know, Number one is everyone's individual safety for sure.
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Um yeah, I know you can't condone that, but so absolutely not.
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So now my anxiety, I mean I've had anxiety where I've gotten to
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work on a Friday night and I was in the parking lot and I'm like,
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I can't work tonight, And it was nothing other than what was going
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on in my head. And my mom always used to say, you know,
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why are you anxious, and I quite anxiousness to like, oh,
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I'm anxious for that Bruins game tonight, I'm anxious for my trip next week,
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like it's almost a good thing. Like I'm like gear enough, Whereas
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anxiety is like just completely different in my mind's view, finishing wise, I
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don't really give a fuck. But you know, I view anxiety is situationally
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unprepared for what's happening. Like I'll go for an MRI on my neck and
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I had to hit the button and come out of that fucking thing because that
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ship was right on top of my face. The air stopped blowing. I
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was like, I didn't have a mask on, like an eyemask to cover
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my eyes, and I hit the butt. She pulled me out, and
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I like, sat up. She goes, oh no, I go watch.
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She goes, if you sit up, but we gotta do it all
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over again. I said, well, I'm not doing it today. So
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I went back a week later with a zanax. They made someone drive me
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there. I got it prescribed, and I said, just put that fucking
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that blinder on me please, And I got through it. You know,
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but obviously a little medicine helped a little blinder's helped, Like, like,
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I've done these before when I was younger, Like I never had a problem,
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So it's just weird to me. But it also sounds like you just
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needed a little more preparation. Yeah, but my point being is I've done
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them before with no preparation, with no blinder, just sat there and stared
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at the fucking sky and never had a problem. And my heart was racing,
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pounding. I was like cloustrophobic, never been claustrophobic. And I feel
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like as I'm getting older's these stupid little things or popping up. Yeah,
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use change and we change as individuals. Yeah, getting older, there's a
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new set of rules. It isn't like Okay, who am I playing with
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it? Recess? Like? Am I playing Uno? Today? Am I
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coloring? Like? These are? These are different emotions, in different fears
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and just different expectations for yourself going it. I don't know, but maybe
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the first time you you had to do this, it was like I'm fine,
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I'm you know, I'm young, I'm this, I'm that I'm not
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worried about it. And the last time you went was I have a whole
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lot more, a whole lot different set of things happening in my life and
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what will this mean? Right, but again not Jeremy's counselor no, not
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a session, but we're talking about things to you know consider. Yeah,
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I mean I I cope with it. I mean I don't think if anyone
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didn't, if I didn't have this show and talk about it, no one
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would know. Yeah. I mean my closest friends, that's about it.
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And they don't even think it's that big of a deal. You know,
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it might not be, but no one's in my head. No one's in
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my head. So you know, a deal with a lot of crap,
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and you know, everything's you know, the stress is a life or one
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thing, you know, paying your bills and money and you know, I
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mean I don't have children, but you know Nicole has a son, might
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worry about him, and especially in this world. I mean, this kid
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comes home from school and tells me someone the craziest fucking shit that's going on
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there, And I'm just like, are you fucking serious? Which could attribute
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to your anxiety? Maybe I don't know that just that's more anger. Sure,
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Yeah, absolutely, And we like we touched upon with depression and a
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lot of other clinical diagnosis. Anxiety also has its umbrella. I guess I'll
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use that word of you know, general anxiety, social anxiety, yeah,
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you know, mild severe, Yeah, so it could be very individualized.
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You can find yourself being in social settings and feeling anxious. But at home
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or you know, with your core group of friends having a meal, you're
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fine. But if you're with thirty people and you're all you know, I
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don't know why Disneyland comes to my mind, but when you're all like it's
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ninety five Darie weather and you're temperature affected and everyone's trying to get on Splash
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Mountain, right, you might be a little anxious. But I also you
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know, I posted something the other day to my own personal Instagram account because
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it was a little thing that said, like what people think anxiety is and
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what it really is. And you know, people that aren't aware could could
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view anxiety as like someone being nervous and just they say, just come down,
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right, But there's so much more that goes into anxiety. And I
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think more often today than ever with social media and with TikTok and all these
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other platforms. And I'm probably not aware of that almost thirty nine because I
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only utilize you know, Facebook and Instagram is people are utilizing clinical terms in
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casual settings, and you know, just to be very mindful of where you're
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getting your information because and I support you know, people, I'm not knocking
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anyone, but sometimes especially younger, younger kids will say like, oh,
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I know all about this clinical diagnosis. I saw it on TikTok, and
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I support the awareness of it as it is may mental health awareness. If
27:11
you know you forgot this is what we're talking about. But the doctor on
27:18
TikTok is not diagnosing you. The doctor on TikTok is not telling you these
27:22
symptoms, so you're diagnosing your boyfriend. But if it's something that sparks you
27:29
and says, hey, like they just said that these three things mean I
27:33
have social anxiety, using as an example, and it affects you seek you
27:40
know, professional help for yourself because the person that's posting is not hearing you,
27:48
and they're not hearing your words, your history, what's happening with you,
27:52
what's been going on in the past two weeks, the past two months.
27:53
They're just saying if you're feeling tired, or if you're a feeling jittery,
28:00
if you're feeling like a loss of appetite or lack of sleep, and
28:04
you're like, oh my god, that's me because at the same token you,
28:11
we as people, can easily convince ourselves in and out of something.
28:15
So it's like, yeah, two weeks ago, I couldn't fall asleep,
28:18
and yeah, like I didn't want to do that. It's like, hold
28:22
on, don't go telling everyone or thinking believing something in yourself that isn't necessarily
28:30
true, because you haven't seen someone that can have your objective can have an
28:36
objective opinion about you, has the professional training, has the clinical diagnostic techniques,
28:45
and also the tactics and ideas clinical excuse me, ideas to assist you
28:53
with this, because it could be you could very well sure you might have
28:57
that, but you might not, and then this whole mind process up.
29:02
Well, so on TikTok, So obviously I have it, I meet the
29:04
criteria, and then you which change yourself for it, which is scary.
29:08
Yeah, because I mean this is why and like I said, the keyword
29:14
of a bottoms you don't want to saying this is These are my thoughts with
29:19
TikTok and and these kids you know, twelve and under wanting to change genders
29:26
and you know all that stuff. We won't dive into that. I've done
29:30
it before. But uh, you know, I think there's a lot of
29:33
mental health issues and awareness that goes along with that. I feel it ain't
29:37
getting any better, you know. I I hear stuff at home about other
29:42
kids at school that are you know, already being medicated at age nine,
29:48
ten, eleven, and twelve. Like, you know, I would talk
29:52
to my mom about that a couple of years ago. You know, I'd
29:55
be down to Florida. We'd hang out for three weeks and you know,
29:56
we're talking shoots the ship and have some drinks and yeah, you know,
30:00
I asked her, said, would you even like was that even considered back
30:03
in the day? And you know, you know, my mom's old school,
30:06
and she's like, Noah, you fucking work your way out of it,
30:07
you know, like, you know, if you're spass, think youre
30:11
spass. Think if you're a d D stop hitting the microphone. I know,
30:15
uh, but I you know, so I just worry that, you
30:19
know, this is going to become larger than it already is. As far
30:23
as you know, I feel your your job will be safe for a while.
30:30
But one thing I do want to say is if you don't like the
30:33
person you're dealing with, go find somebody else, Like I I equate that
30:38
with anything with lawyers, with doctors, Like I love my personal doctor.
30:44
We actually we text on the side, like he'll he'll diagnose. Well,
30:48
I can't really say this, but you know he'll he'll I will say his
30:52
name. But like we're actually friends, we became friends. Haven't seen him
30:55
so long? Um he listens to the show doc aw you doing? You
31:00
know, So if you feel like you know, they come to you and
31:03
maybe they're you're not hitting the right notes with them, you know, like,
31:07
don't be I don't be afraid to seek somebody else or seek alternative means
31:12
if you don't feel Yeah right, yeah, exactly. And I'm happy you
31:17
brought that up, because it is like lawyers and doctors, friends, partners,
31:23
it's anything else. If you have a friend that doesn't understand you,
31:29
probably not gonna be friends with them anymore. So just knowing that it is
31:37
one your personal choice. If you go to a helping professional and you it
31:45
just doesn't click, maybe you know, maybe they say, oh, well
31:51
you're feeling sad, go run a couple of miles and you're like, that
31:56
is not what I was thinking, if not what I was needing. I
32:00
need I need more talk therapy or exposure therapy. And that's a whole that's
32:06
a whole nother show. But we are not offended if it doesn't click,
32:13
because the bottom line is you are the most important thing, and your health
32:20
mental, physical, social, emotional, and everything in between is number one.
32:25
And and you kind of touched upon it in a joke of like I'm
32:30
never gonna be out of a job. But we also support each other in
32:37
that. You know, maybe this person comes to me and they're like,
32:40
you know what, like I really want an older person. I want someone
32:45
that's us has more life to them because I'm retired and I want to connect
32:51
in that way. Okay, let if you want, I'll help you look
32:54
up a couple of places to find someone or you know, thank you so
32:59
much. The doors always open if you need something. But I cannot say
33:05
it enough. It is for you, it's for your benefit. And if
33:09
you feel like this is not the right person for you, by all means
33:14
talk about it with them or say this isn't the right fit. But it
33:19
doesn't mean like, well that didn't work out. Right, and you could
33:22
feel that way one hundred percent. I have seeked, you know, professional
33:29
helpers in and out of my life, and I had a first one was
33:32
great, connected in so many ways. Unfortunately they moved after like a year
33:38
or two. Okay, thanks support you, and they recommended someone else and
33:45
I was like okay, like I saw some things figure out. And after
33:52
the third time, I was like, ah, nope, we are just
33:58
not jelling. We are on two different planes and this probably is not going
34:04
to work. But I was really young and it was way before I even
34:08
got into this field, and I just kept going and I kept going,
34:14
and I would say to a friend of mine, Hi, Kristen, if
34:16
you're listening, I would say, oh my god, I have to go
34:19
to therapy. I don't want to. And she said, isn't it supposed
34:22
to be helpful? I said, okay, funny. She said no,
34:27
like why are you going? And I was like, I don't know,
34:29
because, like I need to talk about stuff. She's like, well,
34:30
are you talking about the stuff you need to And I said no, I
34:35
just sit there and I don't want to be there. She's like, then
34:37
leave right, I'm like you and we're like twenty three years old, like
34:43
it was a long time ago, and I was like, oh my god,
34:46
what a crazy concept, Like I'm important and this is not helping me,
34:52
and I need to do what's best for me and this isn't it.
34:54
But that's what we need to do. We need to put ourselves first and
34:58
recognize it is okay to go seek help, and it is okay to say,
35:01
like we're not jelling and I'm gonna go figure it out somewhere else.
35:07
Because we are all very, very different. You might get someone that like
35:12
uses humor, or you might have someone that uses um, you know,
35:19
uh, goal oriented. There's there's so many different avenues to look through that
35:24
I do strongly encourage that if you are or you've had a bad experience,
35:29
let's say, and you still feel like you you need that assistance to just
35:35
go and try somewhere else. It's like, you don't like it's the same
35:39
thing as a restaurant or a drink or a doctor anything else. Like you're
35:45
not gonna never go have French fries because you don't like restaurant au changes lawyers
35:51
all the time. You're gonna go to a restaurant, but you're gonna go
35:52
down so Bridge, you're gonna go, you know, down down to a
35:58
citrus, you know, anywhere else that's on this table that I'm looking at
36:01
all the logos, Ye, and it goes you're gonna go somewhere else.
36:05
What do I want to go next? Let's see, I don't know.
36:10
I'll go back to Nashville. How's that Nashville, Nashville. That's the sticker
36:15
I got in Nashville. But yeah, exactly. And I feel some people,
36:23
you know, they're just kind of in their place and it's part of
36:30
their day is going to see that person. And it may give them anxiety
36:34
to go see that person, yes, and but it's just what they were
36:37
either told to do or did on their own. And I'll be honest with
36:44
you, I've never talked to anyone professionally outside of my own personal doctor,
36:47
right, you know, but not no one certified for this stuff yourself.
36:52
So I'm not being charged for this, right. This is as as I
36:54
cannot say anymore, hippopotamus, this is a session I could never treat someone
37:04
that I know, I never would morally, ethically, maybe illegally, I
37:07
don't know. But now you were not being charged. But I know,
37:14
you know, I know people you know in your field, obviously through working
37:17
in Stone Store. And I had a conversation with a lady one night at
37:22
Citrus and Friends with her and her husband, and we were chatting about an
37:28
incident that happened and it was actually talked about it on the show. Was
37:32
driving a coal to Fairfield for rehab for her hip, and long story short,
37:38
this car pulled up beside me. It was a fucking dick at us
37:42
on the road, rolled his window down through a gatorade bottle on the car,
37:45
smashed it all of the windshield. So many thoughts went through my head.
37:51
Yes, one, I wasn't in my car, it was hers.
37:53
I had to get her where she had to go. She was using on
37:57
Star to like kind of report it and all that. And then we hit
38:00
traffic at Bridgeport and he was right there, and my first instinct was just
38:06
honestly ram his car because I could give a fuck. But my anxiety got
38:12
and then like a million you know, like when things happen so fast,
38:15
a million ideas go through your head. You know, I'm almost like,
38:19
all right, this guy could have a gun. This guy, you know,
38:21
somebody else can get her, somebody could come up behind us and smash
38:23
it out like the gazillion things, you know. So I guess I technically
38:28
took the high road. But when we pulled into the lot and she you
38:34
know, still COVID, so I couldn't go in. So I'm just sitting
38:37
in the car for myself for about forty five minutes. My hands are trembling.
38:39
I'm just just fucking angry, anxious, as my mother likes to say,
38:46
UH wanted revenge. I knew I couldn't get it to fucking du that
38:52
like North Carolina Plays and fucking you know, took off and that was it.
38:57
Got his license played number, announced it on the show. Anyone knows
39:01
this BMW, North Carolina Plates, whatever it was, you know. So
39:06
I talked to her about it. I said, you know, she obviously
39:07
said you did the right thing, you know, just let the law enforcement
39:10
handle it. So just a reaty you did not take action, and it
39:15
did not. He was right there, and you know, I knew Nicole
39:21
didn't want me to do it. I'm surprised. If Nicole probably didn't have
39:24
a bad hip, she probably wouldn't jumped out of the car. I don't
39:28
know, but it was just one of those weird things where maybe I look
39:32
at it it's like, you know, twenty when I was twenty years younger,
39:35
when I was twenty nine, I might have done something stupid. Maybe
39:38
I've grown up. Maybe I'm a pussy. I don't know. There's a
39:43
lot of things, you know that go through your head, like why didn't
39:45
I do anything? Was it because she was in the car? Was it
39:50
because it was her car? Was it? Or was it like I didn't
39:52
want the confrontation. You know, It's a lot of things. Yeah,
39:54
So I had a good discussion about it. You know, it was just
39:58
over a you know, behind noon and a fucking chat at Jamison. But
40:04
but it's you know, it's good to talk, and it's good just to
40:07
like let it out, like like to to you know, not not to
40:12
say, not to call you arbitrary, but or just as someone that really
40:15
doesn't know anything about you or or what you've done or what the incident was
40:19
that maybe triggered something. And I've thought a lot about just you know,
40:24
going to see somebody. But you know, my life goes on. I
40:28
almost feel like I'm the fucking psychiatrist when I'm at work, you know what
40:31
I mean. I listen to everybody's fucking problems, and you know, sometimes
40:37
it's nice to have someone listening to yours. Yeah. Absolutely, Now are
40:43
you trained to again, maybe this is the wrong question to you say you
40:47
deal with children, to deal with adults children? Right? Is there?
40:55
Is it like two totally different entities. Yes? Yeah, I cannot emphasize
41:00
that enough, which is um. You know. One of the reasons why
41:05
I was in New Orleans for the Law and Ethics and Counseling conference is um
41:09
I presented with two other people about you know, being properly trained to counsel
41:22
children and adolescents because it's I'm not saying anything new, and I thought the
41:29
other day it reminded me. But adults, majority of adults will come in
41:34
and they'll talk to you. Kids aren't going to come in and and you
41:38
know, when you say how's your day to an adult, they typically respond.
41:43
Do you say how's your day to a kid? They'll say, fine,
41:45
good, that's all here from Brandon? Good? Good? What'd you
41:49
do today? Nothing? But where you get your information? A kid might
41:53
say, come play with me, Yeah, just come play with me,
42:00
whether it's cards or you know, UNO or crazy eights, depending on the
42:07
level of the kid. Maybe it's a little guess who some coloring. Um,
42:13
it goes a long way because you're established establishing ra poort with them,
42:17
you and you know what, it could be five minutes in, could be
42:24
twenty minutes in, could be six sessions in, and they could you know,
42:30
they could say something that you know, they're not necessarily always going to
42:35
be like, you know what happened at school today, Like someone didn't include
42:38
me at recess and I felt really sad. They could say that or you
42:45
know the way people play and what they're saying and what they're doing, how
42:47
they're playing with things, right, are they you know, it's like stereotypical
42:53
appropriate play versus um. You know, are all are all the you know,
43:01
animal figurines like playing together, or you know, are they having them
43:07
trot to one side and being like, oh, we're not going to go
43:09
over there because that that person looks scary, right, or that that kid
43:14
looks smelly. But they're they're playing right, So they're not telling you like
43:19
that kid was mean to me, or you know, I didn't like when
43:23
this when this teacher said this to me. They're not they're not necessarily going
43:27
to open up like adults can. So it's very it's it's a different approach
43:32
because kids are not adults and adults are not kids. And and to acknowledge
43:40
that is opening up a whole possible treatment for young people. And you cannot
43:47
answer this, but do you find it harder to get through to adults or
43:52
to get through the children? I can answer that, actually, um,
43:55
and I can tell you it doesn't matter. It depends on individual totally,
44:00
the person, totally, the person. And what I do say to people
44:05
is, you know, this is your time, and this is your safe
44:07
space, and there's no topic that's off limits. So you know, as
44:15
long as like you feel safe, Like I say that to a lot of
44:20
the kids, what do you want to do? Like I'm not they're not
44:24
walking in and I'm saying, okay, so today we're going to do this,
44:29
this, and this, Because you guess what, they get that all
44:30
day long at school, right The last thing that they're the last thing they
44:36
want to do is open up to someone that's making them do something. And
44:37
they probably get it at home too, whether they want to or not.
44:40
It's not like a defiant thing. It's just like I agree, now I
44:45
want to sit down again, and you know, yeah, yeah, I
44:47
answer these questions. So it's like you want to you want to throw the
44:52
basketball around? Like cool, right, Like let's do that. And you
44:55
know it doesn't necessarily have to be just with kids, like I will like
44:59
do stuff like that with adults. Do you hoop it up with the adults?
45:01
Well, I can't actually hoop anything up. Um let's let's honestly hour
45:07
there. Gosh. I probably haven't tried to like shoot a basket decades,
45:13
but I can't even raise my right arm at this point. I can't.
45:16
I mean, it's amazing, I can. I My golf game has gotten
45:20
so bad with my my just in my neck and my arm. My arms
45:23
are just in constant pain. And you know it's you know, it's just
45:27
yeah, something I don't need to bore anyone with, but it's but if
45:30
you see me in stone Bridge, know this. I'm in a lot of
45:32
fucking pain. Oh gosh, No matter what time of day you see me,
45:37
you know, until it's four hum, you know, behind the fucking
45:42
behind the post office having a beer and a Saturday night. Uh, It's
45:45
it's tough, it's tough, and uh, you know, getting a little
45:49
side tracked here, but I've been I've been dealing with it, and uh,
45:52
you know, they keep telling me, no surgery, I'm too young,
45:54
and I keep saying back, you know, I could die tomorrow.
45:58
Uh you know they say no, really this young because they they're gonna have
46:00
to get it again. Okay, probably in like ten to fifteen years.
46:06
I'll do it twice. Yeah, that's important. I know. I don't
46:10
want to feel like this for the next ten years until they say I'm old
46:14
enough. That also sounds like you don't want to feel this way any longer
46:17
than you have to know whether that means. I mean, I've done physicotherapy,
46:22
I've done the SUTs, I've done everything leading up to Okay, we're
46:25
at the point of surgery, and I just gotta go see somebody else.
46:30
I just gotta keep like they perfect segue, and what we were talking about,
46:35
I'm not you know, this has nothing to do with my general doctor.
46:37
This is obviously, uh you know, orthopedics and neurosurgeons and shit,
46:42
and uh you know, hopefully, well we'll find a resolution to it soon,
46:45
sooner than later. But yeah, you know, obviously I'm getting into
46:47
my busy season, so my arms are pretties. I mean they're sore when
46:51
I walk into work and they're even more so when I leave. Ye.
46:54
Sure, it's just crazy, but um, all right, one last topic
47:00
I want to go into, and that's the worst one I think of the
47:04
three, and that suicide. We both know some people in common that obviously
47:09
went this route. Yes, like I said, I don't feel I've ever
47:15
had depression. Obviously I have anxiety, and I've certainly never had suicidal thoughts,
47:20
which is kind of a funny term, like people think of everything,
47:22
but when you say suicidal thoughts, it's like you know, you're actually planning
47:27
it or figuring out how to do it and how to get there. And
47:31
there are many suicide hotlines. The easiest one is just text ninety eight eight.
47:37
Yes, that's it, just text ninety eight eight. If you're feeling
47:43
you know, they don't report you to the police, they don't do any
47:45
of that stuff. They're there to talk and it's to report. I mean,
47:51
if you're feeling any kind of way, it does not have to be,
47:54
you know, anything severe. It could just feel like any kind of
48:02
helplessness or confusion. This is not This is a resource for everyone regardless of
48:12
whether you are assessing if this is important or not, because you are the
48:16
most important thing, and if you're feeling any other way. Nine eight is
48:25
a resource for everyone, and whether that's exactly what you need or they redirect
48:30
you to you know what you need, it is always a resource to have
48:38
and you can always utilize it regardless of if you this is not well.
48:47
You know, I only have a ninety nine fever. If I had a
48:52
one oh four, then I could call no, no, no, you
48:55
have a ninety nine something's going on to call reach out because there is someone
49:05
even though it's very difficult sometimes to feel like there might not be anyone,
49:09
um, there is someone that that will absolutely want and need to help you.
49:16
And I feel this might go along with depression as well, like like
49:22
I feel I'm someone you could call, like any of my friends are listening,
49:27
you know, even if I haven't talked to you in fucking ten years.
49:30
You know, my phone's always on unless I'm sleeping, you know,
49:34
and I don't sleep much, So you've got a good chance you're gonna get
49:37
a hold of me or call you back. And I would be more than
49:40
happy to move out of bed into the living room and chat with you for
49:44
an hour, you know, and I've seen it. We've seen it firsthand.
49:47
It's awful. It affects a lot of people, you know. I
49:52
feel a lot of people. I remember when I was growing up, like
49:57
everyone always said, oh, suicide is a coward the act, Yes,
50:00
And I think that's so unfair, Like it's not accurate. It's not accurate
50:06
at all. I think, like again, no one knows what's going on
50:07
someone's head, and no one, like, no one knows the pain that
50:12
I'm feeling every day in my arms. You know, there's some things I
50:15
just want to shut my arms off. But you mean that though, Like
50:19
that's not like, oh it's bothering me, Like you you really do mean
50:22
like you want to do that. You don't want to feel that pain anymore
50:27
because it's physical pain. So it makes sense that you know, or maybe
50:31
I don't want to say it makes sense, but no, but okay,
50:35
understand that concept because it's a physical health. Right, you can't see mental
50:43
health. I said to you earlier. Um, I always say to people,
50:46
and I make a joke of it, of like, this isn't physical
50:51
medicine. I can't look at an X ray nor do you want me to
50:54
because I don't know how to read one and say like, oh, well,
50:57
the millions of fractures we've seen in the left arm. I have no
51:00
idea what I'm talking about, obviously, because I don't practice physical medicine,
51:06
so I can't say in four to six weeks you can go back down the
51:08
golf course. Mental health you cannot seem, especially right away. So I
51:15
think that you know, that's an important message to take because it's it's a
51:23
process, but there are absolutely people that are here for that process for you,
51:30
right I feel also in my own experiences, people are misdiagnosed a lot,
51:37
or it happens get get the all clear that they're better. They could
51:43
be tricked into thinking that they could be put on a new medication to make
51:47
you know that that the pharmaceutical companies told the sales rep to tell the doctors
51:53
or whoever's to what deciding on if the person is suicide or not, that
51:57
this strug will make it, you know, And then and then the people
51:59
still it. So it's so hard. And I think that is the one
52:05
thing out of all three of these we've talked about is where words can help
52:08
the most. As like not medicine, like just talking it out and you
52:16
know, and happen almost like you know, like if you're an alcoholic,
52:19
you have a sponsor. You know, if you're having thoughts of having another
52:22
drink, you call your sponsor. You know. I think, I mean,
52:24
I again, this is your profession, not mine. But if I
52:29
always like I always trying to look for like what's the easiest way to maybe
52:34
start tackling this before it gets to the quote unquote professionals. And you know
52:42
my one friend that I lost, you know, you just wish you just
52:45
wish you not Yeah, And I think if people, if you if you
52:49
feel suicidal, you don't have to text nine eight eight, just you know,
52:52
call call your mom, call your dad, call your brother, call
52:54
your sister. You know. And if if if you don't feel comfortable talking
52:59
about the family, you know, all your friends call me, you call
53:00
you like, yeah, you know, but they you know, I think
53:05
I think that's a great point. But also you know, maybe your family
53:10
structure, friend group, there's that acceptance, um, whereas other people might
53:15
not have those support systems in place, which is you know a factor in
53:23
if when people do reach out right, Um, And it's and it's all
53:28
obviously you know there are different kind of thoughts involved, but you know,
53:32
I can't. I can't say this enough. Is is knowing that you are
53:39
worth everything and making a phone call or a text or reaching out in any
53:47
way. Um is people want to help you, even if it feels like
53:55
they don't right um and you you might feel like you're being an inconvenience or
54:06
no one cares. People care, people don't want you around, and it's
54:10
like, ill, I haven't seen this person in ten years, Like that'd
54:14
be weird. It's like, sure you could feel that way. I could,
54:19
you know, I might never you know. I'll just use you as
54:22
an example. I might not see Jeremy for fifteen years, but if I
54:27
got a text at two in the morning too in the afternoon, it's like,
54:30
oh, what what's going on with saying maybe I'm thinking, oh,
54:35
this is kind of weird. I'm gonna talk to him in a while.
54:37
But I'm picking up and I'm like, okay, like, what what do
54:43
you need for me? What can I do to support you? Because I'm
54:46
not going anywhere. You might need me to just sit next to you.
54:51
You don't have to say anything. You don't have to say I need this,
54:54
I need that, because the act of reaching out is so great that
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it might just be like I just I just I just need you here.
55:06
I'll sit and wait for you to let me know right what you need.
55:10
But yeah, that goes with a lot of things in life too. Look,
55:14
we're just talking about alcoholism or drug drug addiction. Yeah, gambling,
55:17
gambling, all right, have two with the three which is undiagnosed because he
55:24
has not seen No, no, no, we have not. Um,
55:30
I feel like I have you a retainer anyway, So you come on the
55:32
show, you sign that thing when you walked in. I did not sign
55:37
treatment for you. So I hope everyone can hear our you know, playful.
55:43
You know, we choke around like I used this show. Um,
55:47
I don't talk about it every show, but me being on the show helps.
55:53
Yeah, just you know, I mean I could you know, had
55:57
Serrulo on, we talked hockey for an hour. Takes my mind off of
56:00
absolutely. We both realized we sucker predictions in hockey. I don't think anyone
56:06
saw any of that coming. But I don't think literally anyone did on either
56:12
front of the two hockey teams of which we are referencing, yes, that
56:15
we might not speak up. No, not at least till October. Yeah,
56:20
so fucking grind out a whole another season just to have it in that
56:22
way or not? Yeah or not? Yeah? Yeah, the expectation.
56:28
Yeah, we may or may not have for our sports teams, or ourselves
56:31
or our friends and family, but we're having to sue out of thoughts over
56:36
the Bruins. Please give me a call. I will talk you right off
56:37
that ledge. All joking aside. Yes, I've been fighting the battle with
56:44
people talking. I I was almost doing the whole show by myself yesterday and
56:50
the Bruins collapsed. Like I was just like, again, I'm over it,
56:52
but I'm just like just how it all unfolded. It is just like
56:55
you gotta be kidding me. You're over it, but there's still processing.
57:00
Yeah, I'm just like a quick note. I knew even when they're up
57:05
three one, they weren't playing. I'm not I still think they should have
57:07
won the series being up three one, like something's got to break your way,
57:10
and it didn't. But they were outplayed, they were out hustled.
57:15
They weren't passing cleanly, they weren't getting to the corners. They were turning
57:20
the puck over in their own end. I know we're talking hockey talk now,
57:22
but okay, but oh yeah, that's that they deserve to lose.
57:27
I'll put it to you that way. I'm a Rangers not so much.
57:29
I don't really I didn't really think the three games they won, they blew
57:31
them out, and then the four games they lost is like every game was
57:37
night and day with them. It was weird. Well, I will in
57:39
the in the tradition of which we are speaking, I don't speak about things
57:45
that I'm not an expert about. So, like I said, I enjoy
57:50
watching majority of the games, and uh yeah, next year is next year
57:55
for sure. All Right, So I'm gonna leave on a couple of notes.
57:59
Okay, the four Am Serrulo text that got last night after the Rangers
58:05
lost. Now, if anyone didn't listen to the Cerrulo show, that was
58:07
a couple of sundays ago. We did just the strictly hockey playoffs. We
58:13
both predicted the Bruins to win. We both predicted the Bruins to play the
58:15
Rangers in the Eastern Conference finals. And if he knows Cirrulo, it's four
58:20
Am he hasn't gone to bed yet because last night was Game seven, so
58:23
he probably had a nice BAC level going, he wrote to me. Now,
58:28
I didn't see this, so I woke up in the morning, but
58:30
never invite me on the podcast. Again. Not mad at you, mad
58:32
at myself. I jinxed both of us. Sorry, buddy. So at
58:37
eight seventeen, when I woke up at some morning, I texted him back.
58:39
I don't think two idiots talking hockey on a podcast that anything to do
58:43
with the outcomes. But next year, let's just pick against them. Like
58:46
I love when people are so superstitious that they think they did or underwear they
58:52
wore had anything to do with what just happened on a fucking professional fucking hockey
58:58
ringer football field or whatever. But but it was disappointing, and I you
59:02
know, I still got my Celtics, And I don't know if there's Knicks
59:05
fans out there, but they're playing right now. Oh yeah they are.
59:08
I'm sure. I'm sure they're a Knicks fans out there. Yeah. That
59:13
tough to be a Nick fan. Now, they never win one thing.
59:16
From a former show I had Jennifer Mudd on about a month and a half
59:21
ago, she was the lady that was trying to get the assistant suicide passed
59:25
in Connecticut. She had a horrible experience with her husband passing away from als
59:31
and you know, trying to get that law passed. It's in like eleven
59:35
or twelve states right now. She got it all the way up to the
59:38
governors, and of course he just fucking threw it off to the side and
59:43
it's done and she has to go through the whole process again next year.
59:46
She sent me a nice tax She's like, you know, thanks for your
59:49
support, but you know, here we go again. And I just simply
59:52
said back to her, I said, you know, until one of these
59:55
lawmakers has it happened to them, they're just gonnas. You know, they're
1:00:00
gonna stay on that party line. And you know it's it's sad. You
1:00:04
know, no one she shouldn't have had to deal with what she dealt with,
1:00:07
and including her husband, so uh, you know, and they're of
1:00:09
sane mind. So if that was the route they wanted to choose, I
1:00:13
feel they should. Again, that was a whole show. You can listen
1:00:15
to that as a couple of months ago, and I had Ashley fan on
1:00:21
from we are one Inc. She's doing a this little plug for her.
1:00:24
She's doing a fundraiser online. She is trying to eradicate human trafficking and she's
1:00:32
looking for you know, she's got a little fundraiser coming up on May twelve
1:00:36
and thirteenth. On her site. There will be a QR code to scan.
1:00:39
You can give a dollar, give two bucks, five bucks, ten
1:00:42
bucks, whatever. Just follow her to we are one Inc. On Instagram
1:00:46
and she has all the stuff on there. Real go get her. She's
1:00:50
uh, you know, yeah, it's another hole doing important work. Yes,
1:00:53
yeah, absolutely trying to get it down. So as you are,
1:00:58
you do very important work yourself. Oh thank you. But I really feel
1:01:01
like like this podcast is important work because it just whether it's hockey or you
1:01:10
know, more of a mental health awareness and everything in between, Like everything
1:01:17
makes up who we are. And having this outlet that you have that you
1:01:22
you know, bring people on and and they can talk about things that are
1:01:24
important to them and it gives an audience and it gives awareness, you know,
1:01:29
talking and just talk about like helping one person, right, like that's
1:01:34
all. That's then. I've always said that my whole life, like if
1:01:37
I can just like if just this show, if it got one person to
1:01:40
go seek help, or got one person that texts nine eight like the job's
1:01:45
done, or getting one person to watch a hockey game, to watch the
1:01:51
Bruins the Rangers, Well I apologize for that, no, but what I
1:01:54
mean by that is that could be an outlet that someone means their life.
1:02:00
I mean, there's nothing like a show. But you know, baseball was
1:02:07
was and still to this day, it's called America's past time for a reason
1:02:09
because it gave stress relief to people at that time. That was what majority
1:02:15
of people who were fortunate enough to shut your minds off for two three to
1:02:20
do it. Those are the things that we need in between all the responsibilities
1:02:24
that we have. And just one last point on that, and I feel
1:02:30
that's that's why in today's society with sports, it's becomes so galvanizing. I
1:02:38
guess the word would be with you know, the the NBA and all these
1:02:45
leagues getting into social justice things and and all this stuff. You know,
1:02:52
I have no problem with the individual players doing it. I had no problem
1:02:57
with Kaepernick kneeling. I really didn't care. Everyone said it was against the
1:03:00
flag. I don't think that's why he was kneeling. I don't like the
1:03:04
guy do what you want to do. But when I sit down and watch
1:03:08
an NBA game and you know, there's all their jerseys or names, you
1:03:13
know, or not even names anymore, they're you know, it says BLM
1:03:15
or whatever, and it's no longer America's pastime anymore. You can't shut your
1:03:21
brain off for two seconds in this world, you know. And now they've
1:03:23
injected it into sports. And me personally, I don't give two ships like
1:03:30
I'm gonna watch my sports. You know. I've had friends tell me they
1:03:35
want to watch the NFL anymore. And the point I made back to them
1:03:39
was, do you think these players really want to do this? They're getting
1:03:44
a really big check. They're just towing the company line like a lot of
1:03:46
people. Do. They have families, they are about Some of these guys
1:03:50
are about to make generational wealth. Sure they'll throw you know, we are
1:03:54
one on their jersey. Whatever you want to do. And I don't.
1:04:00
I don't blame the players, you know, we don't We don't know them.
1:04:03
We don't know their backgrounds, we don't know their needs and how they
1:04:08
grew up or what they're what's happening now or what could happen. We have
1:04:12
no idea and it goes for you know, NFL players or your coworker,
1:04:17
you're next door neighbor, um, which anythink is you know, important to
1:04:23
remember that we don't know what someone else is going through. We certainly don't.
1:04:28
That's why we have people like you to help and like you. Yeah,
1:04:30
so go watch a hockey game tonight, people enjoy Hey, We'll say
1:04:34
this, there's hockey and then there's playoff hockey and it's two completely different things.
1:04:40
And I will still watch it. Yeah, I'll watch it too,
1:04:44
Katie, thanks so much for coming on the show. Once again. It
1:04:46
is mental health Awareness Month the whole month of May. Um, So if
1:04:51
you know anyone or yourself, you know you want to seek help or get
1:04:55
seek help for someone else, or simply just you know, dial that this
1:04:59
this everything's really at your fingertips online. Uh, you know, if you
1:05:03
need any kind of help, it's it's there. Just google it and uh
1:05:08
a lot of you know, nine nine percent of it's confidential. Uh you
1:05:11
know, if not, you know, depending what you might want to tell
1:05:14
people, that's the only way to really get out. So um, good
1:05:17
luck with your career. Good luck in your speaking career. I hope you
1:05:21
beat that uh anxiety. Uh yeah, being on stage. Well we'll see
1:05:28
the next time. I do it all right, And the show is in
1:05:30
ten seconds officially over, so you can crack a beer. Okay, so
1:05:34
much, Thanks so much, Katie. If you're coming on, I'll talk
1:05:36
to you guys next week. Take care. I