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The Late Debate | 25 November · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lately.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Late Debase. Thanks for joining us on
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  Speaker 2: the Late Debate. I'm James Macpherson with Caleb Bond and
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  Speaker 2: freyer Leitch coming up tonight. Males quit the teaching profession
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  Speaker 2: over fears of being set up by hyper sexualized kids.
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  Speaker 2: Plus the Trump administration instructs its Canberra embassy to start
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  Speaker 2: collating stats on migrant crime committed in this country. And
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  Speaker 2: Greta Tunnberg banned from Venice after her latest look at
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  Speaker 2: me stunt. We'll get to all of that shortly, but first,
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  Speaker 2: staff at the Reserve Bank of Australia have just negotiated
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  Speaker 2: a new wage deal that includes, get this, eight well
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  Speaker 2: being days.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: If you're not sure what a well being day is,
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  Speaker 2: it's well, it's a kind of a modern miracle. It's
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  Speaker 2: a day off work where you don't have to explain
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  Speaker 2: yourself at all, take a nap, binge, TV, drink all
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  Speaker 2: day at the pub.
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  Speaker 3: If you call it a well being day, you'll be
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  Speaker 3: paid to do it.
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  Speaker 2: And nothing says fiscal response ability like the RBA paying
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  Speaker 2: staff to do absolutely anything or nothing at all.
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  Speaker 3: But here's the kicker.
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  Speaker 2: The RBA has spent the past year wagging its finger
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  Speaker 2: at the rest of us about the importance of productivity.
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  Speaker 2: Last November, RBA Governor Michelle Bullet told the Committee for
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  Speaker 2: Economic Development of Australia quote, if we want to grow
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  Speaker 2: our living standards, we.
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  Speaker 3: Need productivity growth in the economy.
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  Speaker 2: And just weeks ago, RBA Assistant Governor Sarah Hunter gave
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  Speaker 2: a speech entitled why productivity matters for Central Bankers. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: the RBA itself, which boosted staff numbers by fifteen percent
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  Speaker 2: last financial year, has given its people eight well being
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  Speaker 2: days a year. Living standards arising. All right, kayleb, but
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  Speaker 2: only if you work on the taxpayer dime at the RBA.
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  Speaker 1: Did you say wankers or bankers?
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  Speaker 4: James, I actually you got me on board there. When
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  Speaker 4: you're going through the list of things you could do
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  Speaker 4: on your will being day once you got to.
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  Speaker 3: Drink, I thought a couple of those might appeal.
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  Speaker 1: Jeez, I'm on here. I love this.
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  Speaker 4: What about the well being of those of us who
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  Speaker 4: have to pay our mortgages every week or fortnight or month,
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  Speaker 4: depending on what your arrangements are. I mean, there is
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  Speaker 4: no interest rate cut in sight, and I know that's not.
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  Speaker 1: The RBA's fault.
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  Speaker 4: Necessarily the federal government has a lot to do with
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  Speaker 4: that in terms of where inflation and economic movement is at.
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  Speaker 1: But see, this is great if you are on the
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  Speaker 1: public dime.
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  Speaker 4: As you say in all the scent in Australia, and
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  Speaker 4: you can have your eight well being days which comes
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  Speaker 4: out of your personal leave. So they're effectively adding I
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  Speaker 4: mean most people in most workplaces get ten personal leave
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  Speaker 4: days a year, otherwise known as sickly, so they're adding
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  Speaker 4: another eight on top. It's nearly two weeks off that
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  Speaker 4: you can take, no questions asked. Now does that mean
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  Speaker 4: that you could take it all in one block? Does
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  Speaker 4: it mean you have to take it you know, one
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  Speaker 4: day here, one day there. I'm not entirely sure, because
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  Speaker 4: you could effectively, by my reading of it, turned it
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  Speaker 4: into another week and a half of annual leave. You
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  Speaker 4: know I'm going I thought, I'm going off on holiday
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  Speaker 4: to Europe and then when I come back, I'll need
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  Speaker 4: my eight days of well being leave in order to
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  Speaker 4: recover from all the debauchery I got up to over there.
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  Speaker 1: Why couldn't you do that?
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  Speaker 4: So you're just handing them extra leave, which is fine
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  Speaker 4: when the.
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  Speaker 1: Public is paying for it.
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  Speaker 4: But once you set the standard in the public service,
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  Speaker 4: all the o. Well, it starts in the RBA and
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  Speaker 4: then the rest of the public service says they want it,
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  Speaker 4: and then the highly unionized private workforces will start demanding
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  Speaker 4: exactly the same thing, to say, why do they get
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  Speaker 4: this well being leave? Surely I'm entitled to it as
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  Speaker 4: well my will being. I mean, arguably the well being
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  Speaker 4: of a lot of people who work in the private
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  Speaker 4: sector is more challenged than those who work at the RBA.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I would have thought someone who works on
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  Speaker 4: a work site, a BRICKI or a tradee his well
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  Speaker 4: being is probably threatened a lot more every day than
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  Speaker 4: someone who works to the RBA. So it will become
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  Speaker 4: the standard everyone will get will being leave And how
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  Speaker 4: are we meant.
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  Speaker 1: To pay for that? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think it just shows how out of touch
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  Speaker 5: the public service is with the rest of Australia. Businesses
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  Speaker 5: are laying off staff, we've got record insolvencies. Meanwhile the
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  Speaker 5: public sector under a labor government that supports unionization, and
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  Speaker 5: these crazy EBAs are empowering them to ask for more
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  Speaker 5: and more and money doesn't.
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  Speaker 6: Grow on trees.
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  Speaker 5: The RBA bankers would know that it has to come
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  Speaker 5: from somewhere, and it comes from us as taxpayers.
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  Speaker 6: But when you look at the numbers, the rowt is clear.
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  Speaker 5: Public sector workers are earning on average twenty thousand dollars
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  Speaker 5: more every year than private sector equivalents. They're taking thirteen
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  Speaker 5: sick days a year on average. The private sector worker
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  Speaker 5: has about a third less than that that they're even
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  Speaker 5: entitled to. Public set to productivity has collapsed by almost
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  Speaker 5: ten percent in the last three years. They are a
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  Speaker 5: sector that if this was a private sector workforce, half
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  Speaker 5: of them would be sacked. They certainly wouldn't be getting
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  Speaker 5: pay rises, and they definitely wouldn't be getting well being
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  Speaker 5: days at our expense.
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  Speaker 6: This is a joke.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you have to wonder what sort of a place
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  Speaker 2: the RBA is to work if you need well being days.
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  Speaker 3: So it doesn't sound like a very pleasant place.
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  Speaker 2: I love it when the Treasurer says, you know, we're
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  Speaker 2: aware that working people are doing it tough. Well, they
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  Speaker 2: are doing it tough, but not at the RBA. They're
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  Speaker 2: doing very nicely, thank you indeed.
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  Speaker 4: And of course you have to consider as well that
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  Speaker 4: to most of the people who've got a job in
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  Speaker 4: the private sector in the last three years got one
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  Speaker 4: because of government funding anyway. I mean something like seventy
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  Speaker 4: percent of the jobs that have been seventy five percent.
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  Speaker 1: I think it is actually of the jobs that have
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  Speaker 1: been created over the.
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  Speaker 4: Last few years are related to the government in some way,
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  Speaker 4: whether it be education or health or or childcare or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: The money is fun mentally coming from the government, so
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  Speaker 4: it's all government based.
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  Speaker 2: This story comes on top of you know, last night
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about the Bureau of Meteorology. Right, I've spent
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  Speaker 2: what is it, ninety six million dollars on our website.
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  Speaker 2: Today it's the RBA giving eight days well being leave.
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  Speaker 2: Can you name one government department that you've ever thought
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  Speaker 2: to yourself? You know, they really do a good job
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  Speaker 2: and provide great service for the taxpayer.
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  Speaker 4: And if I tried to think of that, we probably
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  Speaker 4: get to the top of the hour and we'd all
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  Speaker 4: have to go home and we will have done as
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  Speaker 4: much work as the average public servant.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, So there you go. While we're talking about.
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  Speaker 4: Public servants, of course some of them are public servants.
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  Speaker 4: They work in public schools, but some also work in
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  Speaker 4: private schools. Something I'd never really thought about We've heard
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  Speaker 4: a lot recently about female teachers apparently coming under attack
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  Speaker 4: from male students coming up with basically sexualized AI imagery
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  Speaker 4: where they take a photograph of their teacher and then
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  Speaker 4: they have it transposed on top of a nude body
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  Speaker 4: or something and they turn it into the very well
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  Speaker 4: allegations of sexual harassment against female teachers, but an interesting
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  Speaker 4: story popped up today saying that male teachers are facing
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  Speaker 4: it too. As I said, I'd never really thought about it,
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  Speaker 4: but then I did think for a minute, and there
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  Speaker 4: is nothing new under the sun.
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  Speaker 7: Your teacher, the surge of school, she was so bad.
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  Speaker 4: I mean that was the eighties, so perhaps this isn't you.
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  Speaker 4: But as I say, it's not something you generally think about.
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  Speaker 4: You think of sexual harassment, you normally think of, well,
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  Speaker 4: it's a bloke doing it to a girl, not the
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  Speaker 4: other way around. But male teachers are saying in the
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  Speaker 4: news call papers today report from Susie O'Brien that they
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  Speaker 4: are being driven away from the job because of the
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  Speaker 4: sexual harassment they are facing from female students. One male
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  Speaker 4: teacher reported that on his first day at a new school,
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  Speaker 4: he walked in and this is a class of year
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  Speaker 4: eight girls and one said I'd ride that, no questions asked,
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  Speaker 4: And he's like, he doesn't know what to do. What
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  Speaker 4: do you do in that situation? Do you go and
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  Speaker 4: say to the student, well, that's inappropriate. You can't say that,
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  Speaker 4: She goes, what are you talking about? You've got some
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  Speaker 4: dirty thought. I never said anything like that. All sorts
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  Speaker 4: of other things, male teachers reporting that female students are
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  Speaker 4: calling them daddy and saying love you, sir, and all
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  Speaker 4: of this sort of stuff, even suggesting that routinely female
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  Speaker 4: students moan as in like a sexual moaning sound in
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  Speaker 4: class to make the male teacher feel uncomfortable. And we
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  Speaker 4: know the troubles that exist with male teachers already feeling
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  Speaker 4: uncomfortable to teach in classrooms, particularly full of girls, because
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  Speaker 4: one allegation can get you in a hell of a
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  Speaker 4: lot of trouble.
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  Speaker 1: And we talked about a story recently with a teacher up.
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  Speaker 4: In Queensland who took him eleven months after he'd been
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  Speaker 4: accused of something to even find out what the full
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  Speaker 4: allegations were. When he got cleared eleven months later, but
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  Speaker 4: he doesn't want to go back to the profession again.
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  Speaker 4: And all these male teachers saying, look, I just can't
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  Speaker 4: afford to do it because these girls sexualize me and
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  Speaker 4: sexually harassed me. But if I say one wrong thing
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  Speaker 4: to them, bang, I'm done. Why would you want to
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  Speaker 4: be male?
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  Speaker 2: The other example given was of a teacher who was
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  Speaker 2: threatened by a female student that if he didn't allow
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  Speaker 2: her to go and get a drink, she'd accuse him
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  Speaker 2: of being a pedophile. And maybe it was just a
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  Speaker 2: silly threat, maybe it was serious. The point is he
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  Speaker 2: can't afford to find out because if a kid tells
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  Speaker 2: a lie, well they've reprimanded for telling a lie, but
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  Speaker 2: that lie potentially destroys that male teacher's life, which raises
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  Speaker 2: the question. And I would hate for us to get
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  Speaker 2: to this stage, Frayer, because it would be a very
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  Speaker 2: different world to the one I grew up in. But
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  Speaker 2: do we end up with schools where teachers wear body cameras,
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  Speaker 2: called everything? Because what other way is there for a
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  Speaker 2: male teacher to defend himself from accusations where we believe
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  Speaker 2: the students, we believe you know, the victim or the
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  Speaker 2: purported victim.
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  Speaker 3: And as you said, an investigation.
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  Speaker 2: Can take weeks months in the meantime, you stood down,
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  Speaker 2: rumors circulate, your life is ruined, regardless of the outcome.
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  Speaker 3: Do we need body cameras to protect teachers from students?
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  Speaker 5: I hate to say it, but I think that's probably
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  Speaker 5: where this is going. And I think you look at
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  Speaker 5: a lot of schools now have security cameras in all
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  Speaker 5: the classrooms, all the hallways. Basically the only places they
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  Speaker 5: don't have security cameras are the actual bathroom stalls themselves.
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  Speaker 5: Everywhere else has CCTV surveillance twenty four to seven. But
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  Speaker 5: I think we also have to ask where are these
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  Speaker 5: kids getting this from?
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  Speaker 6: Where are they getting this sexualization?
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  Speaker 5: One of the examples given in this article was kids
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  Speaker 5: as young as year six, So we're talking about eleven
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  Speaker 5: twelve year olds making sexual references, innuendos, sexualizing themselves.
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  Speaker 6: Where does that come from? How these kids?
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  Speaker 5: At One theory is it's the rise of pornography and
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  Speaker 5: kids now have smartphones. They're accessing this adult content and
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  Speaker 5: then bringing that into the school. Where are the parents
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  Speaker 5: in that? How are they not controlling what their kids
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  Speaker 5: are looking at? And also why do kids these days
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  Speaker 5: have zero respect for authority. It's almost like they want
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  Speaker 5: to tear down their teachers and destroy their lives and
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  Speaker 5: show how powerful they are.
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  Speaker 6: And make their teachers feel uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I wasn't in school that long ago, to
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  Speaker 5: be fair, but even when I was in school, you
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  Speaker 5: don't do that to teachers who are in a position
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  Speaker 5: of authority.
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  Speaker 6: You should show them respect.
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  Speaker 5: But it seems like all manners, all discipline, all basic
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  Speaker 5: human decency with this younger generation have completely gone out
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  Speaker 5: the window.
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  Speaker 4: But in order to show some respect and deference for authority,
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  Speaker 4: there has to be authority in the first place, and
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  Speaker 4: I think largely it's been removed from the classroom. Teachers,
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  Speaker 4: I think, feel disempowered in many cases to do anything
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  Speaker 4: about ill discipline in their classrooms. They don't feel like
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  Speaker 4: they can discipline their students. They're worried about helicopter parents
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  Speaker 4: that will accuse a teacher of doing something wrong if
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  Speaker 4: they dare to say that little Johnny is not doing
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  Speaker 4: the right thing, or little Genie is probably not called
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  Speaker 4: Genie these days, are they. But anyway, whatever the equivalent
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  Speaker 4: is is doing the wrong thing in the classroom.
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  Speaker 1: So they've had that stripped away from them.
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  Speaker 4: They're expected to be far more touchy feely, but of
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  Speaker 4: course not touchy feely.
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  Speaker 1: In a real way. And this is the other thing
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's one thing for male teachers to be
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  Speaker 4: worried about the sexual harassment in high schools, but you know,
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  Speaker 4: in primary schools, god forbid a kid wants a hag
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  Speaker 4: good No, no, no, no, no, you go away.
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  Speaker 1: You can't come near me. The job of being.
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  Speaker 4: A teacher, I think has become significantly hardh and so
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  Speaker 4: the kids and kids sniff this stuff. I mean, they
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  Speaker 4: know if there is no authority there and the animals
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  Speaker 4: start to run the zoo, you have to get the
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  Speaker 4: authority back in the class.
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  Speaker 2: I've talked to male primary school teachers who talk about
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  Speaker 2: playground dutis a nightmare because especially little kids, they'll come
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  Speaker 2: up and grab on to them and rub their leg
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  Speaker 2: and that would be a very natural, innocent thing for
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  Speaker 2: a child to do, but male teachers then become petrified
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  Speaker 2: that it's not a good look. And the point on
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  Speaker 2: authority is, I honestly think whatever's happening at home is
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  Speaker 2: amplified in the classroom. Typically it's not a problem created
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  Speaker 2: in the classroom. If the problem is in the classroom,
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  Speaker 2: it's genesis is typically at home because that's the first
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  Speaker 2: place you learn authority. And the truth is you're always
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  Speaker 2: under authority of some kind, even when you get out
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  Speaker 2: of school, then you work for a boss. There's always
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  Speaker 2: going to be someone who's got the power to tell
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  Speaker 2: you no. And if you don't learn that from mum
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  Speaker 2: and dad, then at what point do you ever learn it?
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  Speaker 5: Exactly, It's a scary future to think about. Over in
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  Speaker 5: the UK some more utter madness. Now this is a
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  Speaker 5: very ironic story. An artist has put together a new
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  Speaker 5: rendition of the Union Jack. It was done in collaboration
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  Speaker 5: with Stop Racism and it's all about celebrating.
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  Speaker 6: The diversity of the UK.
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  Speaker 5: So the flag itself, as you can see, there is
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  Speaker 5: a mixture of different patterns and fabrics, the kefir for
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  Speaker 5: the Palestinians, Jamaican flags, all sorts to represent the multicultural,
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  Speaker 5: diverse Britain. Well, a labor controlled council, Brighton Council has
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  Speaker 5: decided that is too offensive and potentially frightening for some
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  Speaker 5: patrons at their local library, and so the whole display
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  Speaker 5: has been banned. A display literally about demonstrating the diversity
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  Speaker 5: and the multiculturalism of the UK done by a left
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  Speaker 5: wing artist in collaboration with Stand Up to Racism has
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  Speaker 5: been banned for being too racist. This is just completely absurd. Now,
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  Speaker 5: the Council said, our libraries have been recognized as libraries
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  Speaker 5: of sanctuary, something we are very proud of and keen
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  Speaker 5: to maintain. Given the fears that minority communities have expressed
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  Speaker 5: to me in recent weeks and months, there are particular
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  Speaker 5: concerns that displaying national flags could be taken out of
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  Speaker 5: their artistic context. The artistic context is celebrating multiculturalism. But
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  Speaker 5: also if the national flag is that offensive to you,
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  Speaker 5: you may be in the wrong country.
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  Speaker 6: I hate to break it to you.
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  Speaker 2: You have to look so hard at that multicultural union
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  Speaker 2: jack to realize it's a union jack. I mean to
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  Speaker 2: stare out to figure out it's actually a union jack
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  Speaker 2: that's done in all different patterns. The irony here is,
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  Speaker 2: of course, as you pointed out, that it's promoting multicults.
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  Speaker 2: The truth is, I don't think that flag is going
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  Speaker 2: to offend any minority group, but I think it offends
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  Speaker 2: the council because typically it's our councils, progressive ones who
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  Speaker 2: are banning these things. They're the ones that hate Britain.
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  Speaker 2: They're the ones that hate nationalism. It's not some minority
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  Speaker 2: group being offended and saying to their local MP, you
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  Speaker 2: need to do something to protect us. It's progressive politicians
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  Speaker 2: and we see this all around the Western world. They're
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  Speaker 2: the ones who hate their country, hate their national flag,
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  Speaker 2: and so they then under the guise of defending minorities
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  Speaker 2: you might be offended, they then act their own bias
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  Speaker 2: and prejudice.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's what's happening.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what I have to say to that.
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  Speaker 4: A night at the problems, how good is it? And
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  Speaker 4: the bizarre thing as well is that stand up to
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  Speaker 4: racism or whatever they're called, have tried to portray it
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  Speaker 4: as though it were they can't have it because of
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  Speaker 4: the diversity angle. They put out a statement and said
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  Speaker 4: that the cancelation of this display reflects a broader climate
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  Speaker 4: of institutional self censorship and risk aversion. When a public
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  Speaker 4: library in a progressive city cannot host a flag celebrating diversity,
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  Speaker 4: we should be concerned. So they're saying that it's actually
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  Speaker 4: not going up because of the celebration of diversity, that
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  Speaker 4: the council does not agree with diversity. But of course
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  Speaker 4: you heard what the council had to say, which was
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  Speaker 4: that minorities have told them that they don't.
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  Speaker 1: Like the Union. Jack.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, try and make it make sense if you
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  Speaker 4: cannot display your national flag in your country and you
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  Speaker 4: can't even make an art work out of it that
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  Speaker 4: is meant to be about diversity. I think it's a
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: pretty good piece of art by the way. I mean
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: it's been displayed in the take modern for Christ's sake, and.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: You can't have it in a library. What is going on?
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Yep, I'm with you. It's absolutely ridiculous. But anyway, there
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: you go. That's the state of the modern UK and
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: we ain't far behind.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: The Trump administration has made an interesting move. They are
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: telling their Australian embassy staff to start to calculate and
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: collate statistics on crimes committed by migrants in this country.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: That's not just in Australia.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: They've asked embassies in New Zealand, Canada and throughout.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Europe to do the same thing.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Curiously, they've not told local governments that they're doing this.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: They've just instructed their embassy officials to do it.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: And here is why.
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: This is a.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Statement from the US State Department. We love the Australian people.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: We just want to warn our friends that if you
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: import a rapid number of individuals of any background, particularly
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: of a culture that's radically different from Australia's, without any
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: sort of mechanism for diffusing the impact, that can lead
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: to political unrest and can lead to economic instability. So
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: clearly the Trump administration using their embassies to start to
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: build a case therefore, to argue to different governments that
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: your immigration policy in bear in mind, their concern is
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: not here illegal immigration, it's mass migration, legal but unsustainable
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: in their view, to build a case to their Western
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: allies that this is not a good thing to do,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Which makes me wonder does the Trump administration start to
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: fear that if mass migration continues the way it is,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: nations that were their allies in ten twenty years eventually
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: will no longer be their allies because cultural changes will
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: have been so great that the US no longer has
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: anything in common with those nations it once would would
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: have relied upon well.
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: One hundred percent.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: Demographics a destiny, and the demographics of many Western countries
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: are changing drastically. We have no idea what the long term,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: social or cultural implications of this will be What we
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: do know is that millions of people every year move
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: to Western countries, and they come to the West because
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: they love our freedom, they love our human rights, our dignity,
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: our sense of opportunity for all. But those things can
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: only be sustained if the Judeo Christian character of our
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: nations are sustained. And if you have such huge demographic transformation,
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: it's only a matter of time before the roots of
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: our civilization start to erode. And that is the danger
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: that they're pointing out. They also point to the economic consequences,
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: the cultural consequences, and the security consequences of mass immigration,
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: and when you look at it, it makes perfect sense.
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: Think about from an economic perspective, if young people can't
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: afford to buy a home, they will get disillusioned with capitalism,
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: they will be driven to the extremes.
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: They'll go to the far left.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: That's what we're seeing happen in New York with the
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: election of Zoran Mamdani. At a cultural level, well we
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: know what we'll have happened there. And security wise, if
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: there is no sense of nationhood or citizenship, who's going
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: to join the army, who's going to volunteer to die
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: for their neighbor that they feel zero connection to.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: Mass immigration is a huge threat to our way of life.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: And I'm glad that the State Department's actually looking into
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: this and putting some pressure on our government.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: And I mean, it's hard to get upset about the
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: US doing this, as.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like, oh, can you believe that the
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: US are basically spying on their allies? What do you
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: think China's doing? What do you think Indias doing? What
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: do you think everyone is?
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, they're all gathering data about all the countries
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: they've got inmbasies in. It's just that it's come out
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: that the US is doing this. This stuff is going
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: on all the time. I have to tell you, the
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: US is gathering data for its own benefit. What a
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: surprise everyone that we're doing it. We're doing it in
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: other countries. Don't believe that we're not. Of course we are,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: and they're.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Not doing it only for their own benefit.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: They're doing it for the benefit of their allies and
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: the rest of the West. The point they are making
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: is a fair one, and there are parts of the
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: world where there are certain crimes that you can demonstrate
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: are committed at a higher propensity by people who are migrants.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: It's just a fact.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: And whether that is because of cultural mismatches or whatever,
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: it is true. And so as a country you have
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: to say, we are a club.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: And what sort of club do you want to be? Now?
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I've been involved.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: With racing clubs where you apply for membership and they
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: just sort of rab a stamp it and then you
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: get enough members involved and then you tip the board
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: and you take over the club. Is that the kind
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: of club Australia wants to be or would we rather
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: be a bit more like a private members club where
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: you have to put in your application and you have
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: to be recommended by one member and seconded by another
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: member and then it goes to a vote of the
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: board in order for you to get in. Because that
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: is very simply what we are talking about. Do you
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: want to be a country that at some point could
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: be completely flipped on its head because someone else has
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: stacked the board and they take over, or do you
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: want to be a country that sticks to a constitution
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: as it were, that you have set up a set
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: of values and a culture that you all stand by.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: I mean of course, this is what John Howard used
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: to talk about a multi ethnic, not a multicultural society.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: And that's not to say that there are not elements of.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Other cultures that can come with other people and help us.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: But it's also not wrong.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: To say that there are elements of other cultures that
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: we don't want.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: That's completely fair.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Well, what you're saying is fascinating.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: In light of a response from a unnamed Australian government
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: spokesperson who told the Sydney Morning Herald in response to
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: questions about the US administration collecting data on migrant crime,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: here's what was said by the Australian government spokesperson. Australia
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: is a pluralist nation. We welcome different races, religions and views,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: united by respect for each other's humanity and for each
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: other's right to live in peace. Now, on the one hand,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree with any of that, but on the
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: other it seems to be there saying that's basically Australia
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: is two things. We believe in each other's humanity and peace.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Which is a little bit like listening to a beauty
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: queen for advice on what fire means to be Australian.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: In and yogo Ono.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: That's as weak as dishwater's. If that's what a government
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: spokesperson says, it means to be Australian. We believe in
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: humanity and peace.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: God help us.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: It'll be the sort of club you described where enough
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: people from a different culture or a different persuasion or
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: perspective or worldview eventually tip the scales and it's still Australia,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: but it don't look like it used to be.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: And not to mention, of course, the other economic effects
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: and whatever the pressures that we've seen in the last
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: few years because of mass migration. I mean, you know,
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: you try to buy a house, you try to rent
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: a house, you try to drive on the road.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: It just becomes more and more difficult.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: The more people you shove in at a faster rate,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: the more difficult it becomes to live for the people
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: who are already here, many of them being migrants.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: By the way, there's a little change of gear. Let's
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: go over to the United States. I love this so much.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: The Secretary for Transportation, Sean Duffy has been talking a
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: bit recently about this push.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: They put out a campaign that started.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Last week for civility on planes and civility on public transport,
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: they sink. For God's sake, people just calm down, behave yourself.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: You're going to get to where you want to go eventually.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Can we all just be nice to each other please.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Amazing that you need to have public campaigns for this
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: stuff in the first place, but there you are. But
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: mister Duffy has continued this campaign and raised something there's
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: been a bugbear of mine for a long time, which
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: is the way that.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: People dress on planes. He says, up your game.
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: Take a look, I think again. I call this just
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: may be dressing with some respect, you know, whether it's
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: a pair of jeans and a decent shirt. I would
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: encourage people to maybe dress a little better, which encourage us,
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: encourages us to maybe behave all a little better. Let's
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: try not to wear slippers and pajamas as we come
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: to the airport.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: I think that's positive.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Spot on spot.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Once upon a time, getting on a plane was an event,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: and you you know, you dressed up at the very least,
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: you put a jacket on, and you look smart.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: If you want an upgrade, you still do ex exactly.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: You look smart to go on a plane, and this
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: is all because they're expecting that the largest air travel
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: ever across the US for Thanksgiving. And of course in
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: the last few weeks that during the government shutdown, they
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: had massive problems at airports because all the air traffic
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: controllers weren't getting paid and they weren't showing up for work,
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: so people were getting irate that they couldn't get on
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: their planes, et cetera. But I think he raises a
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: great point here.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: You're getting on a plane. It's I enjoy flying. I
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: know some people hate it.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: I rather enjoy flying, But you know, just show some
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: respect for the people around you and dress in a
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: nice manner and look like you are excited to be
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: going out in the world.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: And getting on a plug depends on if you're just well.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I mean that you get what you pay for it.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: You call me oldie worldie.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: But I think the way you dress says a lot
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: about you and what you think of the people around you.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: And you get on the plane looking like a slob.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: You're saying, I don't even a toss about these people around.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: I don't think you should go out of your way
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: to look bad. But I also think when you're seventeen
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: hours into a flight and everyone around You've got babies crying,
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: you've got people fighting, You've got the smell of plain
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: food that is just across the entire cabin. The last
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: thing you were going to be thinking about, or anyone
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: else will be thinking about, is whether you're wearing tracksuit
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: pants or jeans. No one cares. You should one hundred
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: percent prioritize comfort. And there's actually a safety implication behind
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: this as well. It's better if you're trying to escape
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: the planes in high heels, rushing out like that. You
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: want to be able to move and get out of there.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: So I appreciate the sentiment. Maybe in the airport, try
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: to look a bit nicer, but once you get onto
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: a plane, just comfort should be the top Prayerrie.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: The American Psychological Association found that your clothes affect your behavior,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: your thoughts, and your feelings. In other words, dress like
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: a slob, you behave like a slob. Imagine flights to Bali.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: If Austrains will like dressed like Ukleb on the flight
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: to Bali, there's no dramas, yes, everyone would make it intact.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: I always wear a jacket very rarely and this' it's
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: like exceedingly not on like a long haul flight. Well, no,
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: you take the jacket off once you get on the
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: on the plane right like, you don't have to wear it.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: You're stick it in the overhead compartment or hang it
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: up on the little hook.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: They don't hang them up anymore.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Well, well, if you fly a business class, get a hook.
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: Oh there we go.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: Well, if I was plying business class, I'd also be
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: dressing up. But us in economy have to prioritize comfort.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: But I have all so put it up in the
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: overhead locking. You just could have folded up and copped that.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: But at least it's exceedingly hot. I will wear a
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: button up shirt tucked in, not out, and a jacket
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: as well. I just think it's the right thing to do.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: Let's have some excitement about doing things. Everything now comfort comfort, comfort, comfort.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: You know, the world has just become about comfort. Let's
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: have nothing, nothing that's difficult anymore in the world. Can't
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: we just have some things that look and feel that.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: I will next time I get on a flight, I
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: will endeavor to make kyleb proud and not wear track.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Can I just say I wish we were doing this
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: topic a few nights ago when you were wearing shorts
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: under the desk.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: That would have been perfect.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: And when was I wearing shorts?
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: When was that?
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: I think I might have done it recently on a Sunday. Yes,
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: I mean you know you people at home aren't meant
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: to know that.
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: Sorry, Kayleb exposing Kayleb. There we go. Well, let's come
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: back to Sydney.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: Now, the Cronulla Sharks Stadium if you can even call
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: it that down at Woolaware in the.
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: Shire, is being renamed.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: It was the points Bet Stadium and it's now going
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: to be called the very catchy Ocean Protect Stadium. Yes,
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: the Shark's sponsorship deal with points Bet has ended. They're
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: still going to sponsor the team, but they won't have
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: naming rights to the stadium because this is a preemptive
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: move as the federal government looks to introduce restrictions on
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: gambling advertising in sports. Now, the club says this makes
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: perfect sense because the Sharks are, you know, about the ocean,
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: and this is a business that cleans ocean water.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: Great. I mean it's not.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: Very catchy, but I think this does just show the
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: creeping nanny statism in Australia, where even the name of
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: a stadium is potentially grounds for punishment by the government
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: because oh no, people might see that and what go
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: become a problem gambler. I've been to Shark Park. I
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: live in Cronulla, great part of the world. I didn't
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: even know it was called the Points Bet Stadium. I
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: just thought it was Sharp Part.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: And I think that's the point.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: No matter what corporate sponsor they have, people will always
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: call the Gabba the Gabba, the mcg's the mcg the
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Whacker was the Whacker.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Shark Park is Shark Park.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: But remember when it used to be the NRAL used
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: to be the Winfield Cup, but of course then smoking
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: was bad, so then it was Now it's gambling is
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: where they get all their funding from the NRL. Reckon,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: they'll lose about sixty million dollars worth of funding because
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: of the federal governments poopoing gambling advertising. I reckon, if
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I was relying on fast food advertising as a sporting organization,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I would be starting to make plans to transition to
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: something else, because surely once they've eradicated gambling sponsorship, it
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: never stops, right, There's always something else they've got to
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: ban to improve the culture and so fast food will
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: be the next thing.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: And most of them do have fast food deals.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: The the Winfield Cup in the Ragby League, and you
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: had the Escort Cup in Aussie Rules, and of course
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: that all went by the wayside. But I mean, for
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: goodness sake, like, how can and I know that they're
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: doing this in anticipation of what the law's going to be,
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: but how can it be that it's okay for a
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: bookie to sponsor a team but not to have that
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: name on the front of the ground. I mean, if
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: it's called points Bet stadium, what kids are going to
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: see it and go Mum, Dad, what's points Bet? I
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: mean you go to the cricket and it's Bet three
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: sixty five is on the boundary rope, right, I mean
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: it is everywhere anyway. Most people who have a bet
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: can do so safely. Small number of people have a
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: problem gamblers. But I'm telling you, if you get rid
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: of all the gambling advertising in the world, there's still
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: going to be problem gambled.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: That said, here's the balance, right, So my sons who
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: are twenty years old, but I'm amazed at how prevalent
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: sports betting is amongst all of their friends that they
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: all are into it, and they're all good kids, so
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's any problem with any of them.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: It's not like they're you know, losing a whole lot
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: of money. But I have been shocked at how many
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: young people that I know are all into betting on sports.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: But that's just a lot more out in the open
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: these days.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, back when everything you had to
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: go down to the tap where they can.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Have it, right, So, yes, the convenience.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: And you could go to any pub and find in
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: sp booking. I mean, it's always happened, it's just that
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: it's it's a more obvious now.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I don't like the band, but I do understand people
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: who are concerned about how widespread it's become and the
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: potential problem.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: But the drive with young people is it's all being
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: done through apps on their phone and it's being promoted
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: through social media, and so then this is the problem.
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: It's like, okay, so where does this stuff next?
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: The Ear Safety Commission is going to be coming out
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: and saying you can't talk about gambling on social media.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: It just spirals yeah, exactly, all right, Greta Tutenberg. I
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: thought she was worried about Palestine, but apparently Palestine so yesterday.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: These days she's.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Back on the environment, together with extinction rebellion. She has
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: celebrated or bemoaned the end of the COP thirty conference
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: in Brazil by turning the Grand Canal in Venice green.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Will show you some of that. Look at what they've
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: done to beautiful Venice. This is to protest that the
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: resolutions passed by nations at COP thirty in Brazil were
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: not strong enough. As a result of this protest, Greta
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: and a number of other protesters have been banned from Venice.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: So when I heard that, I was excited. Color Well,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: thank god they've banned it from the place for forty
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: eight hours. Yeah, I know, so she'll be back in
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: a couple of days.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: And one hundred and fifty euro was defined.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, it was about two hundred and seventy Australian
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: dollars or something like.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: It's it's for fits of bagirl.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Look, as far as I'm concerned, her punishment should have
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: been to be dipped in the green water.
• 35:08
  Speaker 9: It's not easy being green, having to spend each day
• 35:15
  Speaker 9: the color of the leaves with.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Any lack, I would have died her permanently. If you'd
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: have to walk around look and green all the time,
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: like Kermit the frog would have served her.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: Right now, I just love that in Palestine, that's so over,
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: that's so yesterday. Peace plan was done. Now I'm back
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: on the environment. But next week she'll be back on Palestine.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: Because of course the Palestine protest in Australia still haven't stopped.
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: They're still going even though there's peace.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: So it made me wonder, right, if Greta Tunberg was
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: to come to Australia, would she be given a visa
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: or would she be denied one on character grounds? Because
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: you pretty much know if Greta Tutenberg is in country,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: she's either going to make a speech where she brakes everybody,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: or she's going to be common deared.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: And why wouldn't you if you were putting on a protest.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: If you've got Greta, you are guaranteed worldwide coverage. Do
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: you reckon she'd get a visa to come to Australia
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: based on you know, the Israeli government detained her. Now
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: she's been booted out of Venice for forty eight hours
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: she's been arrested in other European countries.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: Can you really imagine this government not allowing her to
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: come in? And of course the problem is that even
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: if you deny the visa, she gets the publicity out
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: of that anyway.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Like, you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: But I am kind of thinking, wouldn't be amazing if
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: she could bring the green dye and perhaps put some
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: in the Brisbane River and some in the Yarra and
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: some in the Torrents, you know, the dirty, murky brown
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: rivers that run through some of our capital cities and
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: turn them green.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: It may actually be an improvement.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Improve the Yeah, well that's for sure. We're to go
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: to a break when we come back. The most extraordinary
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: story on the front page of Tomorrow's Australian developing an
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Indigenous policy to make space travel culturally respectful.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: That's coming up next.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, if you're buying a newspaper tomorrow, you've got to
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: get the Australian because there's a story on the front
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: page Freyer that honestly, I read the headline and thought,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: what on.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: Earth it is baffling us?
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: All, the headline is welcome to Country Now in outer space.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: An interstellar Indigenous policy for culturally respectful and environmentally responsible
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: space exploration inspired by dream time stories will cost taxpayers
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: more than five hundred thousand dollars. In the latest Australian
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: Research Council grants, the University of Newcastle will receive five
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: hundred and twenty eight thousand, four hundred and ninety one
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: dollars to embed Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander knowledge in
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: Australian space policy. This Research Council has revealed in its
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: Discovery Grant list for twenty twenty six. Look, we know
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: acknowledgments to country. They have balloon, they have spirals, But
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: I don't think any of us would have thought that
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: the next frontier for Virgie signaling was out of space.
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: But of course it was.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Half a million dollars to investigate connections in indigenous culture
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: between out of space and life on planet Earth. I
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: don't even know where to begin with that, but half
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: a million bucks.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: Okay, So if you told me that they were doing
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: something about Aboriginal astronomy, because of course the stars and
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: whatever were vitally important to these stories, but also the
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: navigation back in the day in terms of knowing where
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: they were.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I kind of.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: Understand that, but it says guided by these connections, the
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: project names should develop into cultural guidelines for sustainable human
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: activity in out of space to educate the public, industry stakeholders,
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: and policy makers, and to contribute to culturally respectful and
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: environmentally responsible space exploration. I'm just not sure what the
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: hell that means. I mean, I'm sorry, what they're going
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: to find something in a cave somewhere that tells them
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: about responsibles. We weren't going to space three hundred years ago,
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: let alone sixty thousand years ago, which is what they.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Say now is how long Aboriginal people are be what.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is I don't think anyone knows how quite
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: to interpret this, and I look forward to doing a
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: follow up story when they do finally release the Indigenous
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: Appropriate Space Policy just quickly.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: There's another grant mentioned in that article where someone's been
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: given half a million dollars to work out whether AI
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: can produce genuine comedy.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: So the tachplayers are producing that as well.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: Was it you James who said before, what are they
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: going to do when they get there and realize the
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: aliens of the traditional owners of space.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Who's going to give the.
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: Welcome the country exactly. That'll be a policy bungle. We'll
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: need to spend another million dollars figuring that one out.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: Also in the Australian tomorrow looking for leadership, Let's drink
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: to that, says Liberal MP. Liberal frontbencher Melissa macintosh has
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: warned that the major parties are disconnected from middle Australia,
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: have lost the courage for big reforms and rely too
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: much on big government intervention. As China rips off local manufacturers.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: The Western Sydney MP said Australia's sovereignty was under threat
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: as the domestic manufacturing base erodes, reliance on foreign and
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: satellite grows, and data centers are undermined by inadequate energy sources.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: Amid ongoing speculation about Susan Lee's long term leadership, MSS
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: McIntosh on Monday night hosted up to forty Liberal and
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: National colleagues for drinks not far from the Opposition leaders
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: Christmas media reception in the Coalition party room. This is
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: very interesting. I think clearly there are still movements, there's
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: still rumblings behind the scenes going on, but it looks
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: like at the moment, Susan Lee's surviving the rest of
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: the sitting year. This is the last week that Parliament
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: is sitting, and so I don't know, maybe Melissa's just
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: inspired to cast a vision for the future of the
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: Liberal Party.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Prom if you've still got so many senior ministers of
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: the senior members of the coalition, I should say freelancing
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: with policy ideas. Angus Taylor famously in the Telegraph laid
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: out his plan, you know, for his key policy areas,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: which I don't think he should be doing. He should
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: be supporting the leader's key policy areas. So you've got
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: all of these potential candidates, even who was at Wilson
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: the other day. Tim Wilson retweeted that he was on
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: six percent and he was mocking how low he's his
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: favorability rating was, but at the same time promoting the
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: fact that he was listed as a contender.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a bit of a free for all
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: at the money.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: And that's half the problem.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: You know, we had the need zero announcement, which was
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: all great, but if it doesn't look like all the
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: focuses on the leader who is leading, Like if it
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: looks like other people are leading in whatever direction it
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: may be. It just gives the impression that you are
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: not a cohesive team, and people don't elect teams that
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: are not co easy.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the front page of the Daily Telegraph.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Crisis A real basic failure, reads the headline. A failure
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: to build basic infrastructure like roads and sewage in major
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Western Sydney growth precincts is stifling attempts to tackle the
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: state's crippling housing crisis.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: According to a new report, there's.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Eighty two and a half thousand homes that are ready
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: to be built.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: The only problem is.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: There's no roads or sewage connected to where those homes
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: are supposed to be built. Bit hard to build homes
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: if there's no infrastructure to support them, so clearly a
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: problem of government. Then you've got another story here. Swan's
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: fund fined twenty three point two million dollars. This is
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: the industry super fun SeaBus, which is led by former
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Treasurer Wayne Swan. They've been fined twenty three point five
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: million dollars after it was sued by the corporate cop
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: for taking too long to process thousands of death and
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: disability payments. I should point out on top of that
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: twenty three and a half million dollar fine, they have
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: agreed to pay thirty two million dollars to just over
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: seven thousand beneficiaries after they admitted breaching the law by
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: failing to process claims on time. So a bit embarrassing
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: for the form of Treasurer to be leading Sea Bus
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: under those circumstances.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Isn't that pathetic?
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, for goodness sake, someone dies, and I mean
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: it's a time, and particularly if they were working and
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: you weren't, if you're a stay at home mum or
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: whatever and you need that money and the super funds
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: on whatever. I mean, it's a pretty basic thing to do.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Come on, guys, just get on top of it. On
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: the front of the Advertiser tomorrow, exclusive from Paul Starek Staza,
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: I hope you are well, it says Vincent van Lowe.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Polling that shows the Liberals will be decimated at the
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: state election that is, of course, in South Australia next
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: March has ignited speculation about Vincent Tazi's leadership. The poll
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: shown a shadow cabinet on Monday had the Liberals bleeding
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: to support to one nation and we don't have the
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: total numbers, but they were told that they were losing
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: ground to One Nation both in the city and in
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: the regions. Apparently the polling showed high twenties was the
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: primary for the Libs and.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: It would lead. They've got thirteen seats at the moment.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: It'd leave them with three oh three seats forty seven
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: seat parliament. Three seats they think they.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Could potentially win back another three off independence, so you'd
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: go from thirteen to six seats.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: That's pretty it is.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: But this is the rock in the hard place that
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: the Liberal Party is stuck between. They need to get
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: those labor voters back that have swung to labor. But
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: if they move to the center or to the left,
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: and they'll lose voters to the right. And One Nation
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: is looking like a serious alternative now and so it's
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: going to be really hard for them to navigate just quickly.
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: In the Gold Coast bulletin Tomorrow, Big Brother Audience drenched.
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: The Big Brother reboot has left its live guests soaked
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: several times in two short weeks, with the outdoor stage
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: in Queensland roofless. The reality show returned to Dream World
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: on Queensland's Gold Coast and it's filming over November and December,
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: where monthly rain averages up to one hundred and forty millimeters.
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: I mean that'd be pretty rough.
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: You're sitting there watching a live reality TV show and
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: not your drenched.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Should have thought.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: There's something worse than being a contestant on Big Brother,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: and that's being an audience member. We're going to go
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: to a break when we come back. You've heard of
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Melbourne's crime crisis. What about Melbourne's raging bull crisis. It's
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: the Wild West in more ways than one will show
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: you after this, welcome back to the program. Well, the
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: vice president of the Campbell Soup Company qualifies as.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Old the day.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Martin Bawley is a vice president of the Campbell Soup Company,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: and during a meeting with a fellow colleague, he was
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: recorded not only trashing the company's staff, but also the
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: company's product.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Have a listen we have for poor people. I don't buy.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: It's fairly when you want alth now that I want
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: to even then look at it at bio engineered me.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I don't want a piece of chicken. It came from
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: a three D printer. You.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: I think we've got some Campbell Soup in the pantry frail.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm gonna do with it, but
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to eat it after that.
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: That is so bad.
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, three D printed chicken.
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: That's what's really in this suit.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: So three that one's taking me out.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: The story right is it was recorded by a work
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: colleague during a just a regular sort of meeting, and
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: the work colleague started recording. He took the recording to
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: management and he's been sacked.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: Oh no, you go, but Blake, maybe don't go around
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: talking about the protact.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: That you were trying to sell like that. Mate.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: You're probably in the wrong job if you're not interested
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: in three D printed chicken, though, you might be interested
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: in some real beef. And it might come from one
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: of these bulls that was let on the loose on
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: the weekend in Packenham, southwest of Melbourne.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Take a look.
• 47:51
  Speaker 10: Two bulls on the loose on a strange Saturday afternoon.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: In PA and they come barreling past and then straight
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: off to them. Two people on horses. Shirtless man came
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: after that.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: I think he might have been trying to wrangle him through,
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: and then followed by a police gull.
• 48:04
  Speaker 10: He's telling residents to stay inside as the bulls ran
• 48:07
  Speaker 10: through the streets.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: Go inside, Go inside.
• 48:10
  Speaker 10: A car damaged after the bulls got cornered in a driveway.
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: Panels damaged.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: The mirror is off.
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: I can't put that back in place.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: The worst part of it was having to clean the
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: poop off my vehicle. So Packingham is southeast of Melbourne.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: I had the Wild West on the brain because with
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: those cowboys following behind, it was like it was out
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: of a.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Western that is a Melbourne.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: I just like the guy said, there were bulls, then
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: there were horses, then there was a shirtless man.
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: He was doing pretty well to keep up with him.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: That was impressive.
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: Well.
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: In other news over.
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: In Namibia, ADOLFS Hitler has made a comeback in politics
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: and he doesn't look like what you would expect. His
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: name is, in fact Adolf Hitler Unona. He's a fifty
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: nine year old Namibian politician and he's just been re
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: elected to local council. Not exactly what out of Fiddler
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: would have been vision as his professor, I don't think god.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: He claims his parents had no idea what the name
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: meant when they named him. Namibia has a big German
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: speaking population.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: But seriously, have you not known the government registry officer
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: who when you name your keeps saying.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: You know you don't have any votes. He got nine.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Very good. All right, that's it from us sticking around.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: Coming up is the readA Pennety show. Good Night,