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Update from Israel and Q&A with Dr. Mark Yarbrough · Karl and Crew

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  S6: all week long. Let's jump right in. Doctor Mark Yarbrough,
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  S6: popular conference speaker, professor and president of Dallas Theological Seminary
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  S6: in Dallas, Texas. I guess I didn't need to tell
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  S6: you that you weren't thinking Topeka. So we got that
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  S6: one figured out. Uh, but doctor Mark Yarbrough, you guys
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  S6: got caught in Israel there, my man. Give us the story.
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  S8: How are we doing, team? Good to hear your voices.
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  S8: My goodness. Well, I'll tell you what. Yeah, it's, uh,
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  S8: it was quite an event. Uh, lead a lot of
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  S8: Bible Land tours, as you know, love getting people into
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  S8: the lands of the Bible. And so we were, uh,
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  S8: had been three days in land in country having a
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  S8: wonderful time. We'd been at Caesarea. We were up north
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  S8: in the Galilee. We had just spent the day before, um,
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  S8: on the Sea of Galilee. Love that. You know, when
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  S8: you always get to get new, new pilgrims to the
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  S8: land to kind of, uh, I always talk about, uh,
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  S8: you know, when we're in that environment, we will walk
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  S8: where Jesus walked. Except for when we're on the Sea
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  S8: of Galilee. You know, we don't want to try it there. Yeah. But, um,
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  S8: we had had a great time. The next day, we
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  S8: were planning on spending some time at the Mount of Beatitudes,
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  S8: and we were in the bus. And then the sirens
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  S8: went off and the game changed. How about that? Yeah. Yeah.
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  S8: So we hightailed it back to the hotel, and that's
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  S8: again when it just kind of got serious.
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  S6: Okay. So what? Give us your vantage point there. You've
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  S6: got a unique opportunity to communicate with all of our
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  S6: listeners across North America and beyond. What was happening there, Mark, that, uh,
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  S6: anything surprise you?
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  S9: I don't think anything really.
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  S8: Surprised me, other than the fact that, uh, when Iran started, uh,
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  S8: dropping missiles in that it was pretty widespread over the country,
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  S8: it wasn't just so many times, uh, when Israel finds
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  S8: itself in any kind of conflict, it's a lot of
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  S8: times targeted towards Tel Aviv and from a major metropolis,
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  S8: obviously the largest city. But, um, it was kind of
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  S8: a little bit everywhere. So we're in Northern Galilee, we're
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  S8: kind of in the southern Golan. And, um, that's where
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  S8: that's where a lot of missiles started, started coming. And
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  S8: so we are thankful for, you know, the Iron Dome,
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  S8: the incredible defense system that kind of bubbles over that
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  S8: country there. And, uh, the Lord was gracious. But I
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  S8: tell you what, bombs literally are going off overhead. They're
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  S8: getting zapped by a laser system. But when they would
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  S8: go off, man, it would rattle the hotel. So it
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  S8: was it was pretty unique. You felt how.
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  S6: Close were they? How close were they to you?
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  S8: They were up above, um, so, I mean, a lot
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  S8: of times when they would come in right there, they're
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  S8: coming in at an arc angle, coming in. And so
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  S8: you don't know exactly where they are, but you could see, uh,
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  S8: Israel would launch drones that would sometimes that would always
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  S8: intercept these. In fact, last time I saw, I think
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  S8: there's only been 4 or 5 missiles that came through
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  S8: the dome that made it through. And so you could
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  S8: literally see these things intersect up above. You could see
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  S8: streaks in the sky, and then you could hear it,
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  S8: you know. So they would explode above your head. And then,
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  S8: of course, the big fear is always if you have
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  S8: shrapnel that falls, right. And, you know, sometimes in terms
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  S8: of these missiles, it'll be pretty sizable. And that's where
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  S8: a lot of people can get hurt, because when that
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  S8: stuff falls, it can go through the roof. And and
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  S8: that's why in almost every certainly contemporary structure that is
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  S8: in Israel, uh, everybody has a shelter. And so there
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  S8: we were at the hotel by the time we made
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  S8: it back there. And I mean, the alarms go off
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  S8: and then you'd get released and you have to head
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  S8: back to the shelter and you'd stay in there for
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  S8: another period of time. And that kind of went a
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  S8: couple of days.
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  S6: Oh, boy. Boy it is. I'm glad you're in safety there. Um,
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  S6: you know, it's fascinating to hear someone say that the
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  S6: concussion of an intercepted bomb rattles the hotel. That's some
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  S6: power in the air there, my man.
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  S9: Yeah, it really is.
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  S8: And, um, you know, I have lived a very sheltered life.
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  S8: I'm acknowledging that I have never been in war. And
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  S8: I've got a lot of dear friends and brothers and sisters, uh,
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  S8: in Yeshua and in Israel. And, you know, this is
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  S8: their life. And I talked with a lot of them.
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  S8: And they said they said, welcome to our life experience,
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  S8: our reality. And so that's a lot of what they
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  S8: deal with. Yeah, exactly. And, you know, obviously, uh, leading
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  S8: a group, right. There were 50 of us in our
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  S8: in our tour. And, you know, I'm in Israel all
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  S8: the time, but for a lot of individuals, this was
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  S8: a first experience for them, for some people even traveling
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  S8: out of the United States. So it was uh, it
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  S8: was a little, a little fearful, a little anxiety. And
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  S8: it was a great opportunity for all of us together
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  S8: to be where we all always need to be, and
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  S8: that is to trust the Lord every day, every hour,
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  S8: every minute. Right?
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  S6: Yeah, yeah. And that raises the necessity of that for sure.
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  S6: Where are you right now? Doctor Mark Yarborough, our guest
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  S6: right now. And we're going to get into Ask the
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  S6: experts in a moment. But where are you now?
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  S8: We are in Cairo. And so when it all started going,
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  S8: we really kind of got in lockdown. The Defense Department
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  S8: said no travel. And, um, so, uh, two days later,
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  S8: we were able to load up and head south because
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  S8: immediately the airspace obviously closed in Israel, the airspace closed
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  S8: in Jordan. You couldn't go north, obviously into into Syria.
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  S8: Lebanon was going to soon get into this, obviously. And
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  S8: so the even the King Hussein bridge, which is a driving,
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  S8: you know, across the border into Jordan. But as all
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  S8: that shut down, I could kind of read the tea
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  S8: leaves at that stage in the game. And I said, man, teams,
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  S8: we gotta hightail it south. So we loaded up. Uh,
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  S8: we went down all the way as far south as
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  S8: you can get, uh, a lot. And there is a
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  S8: border crossing that goes into Egypt. And I've got some
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  S8: very dear friends in Egypt, lead a lot of tours
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  S8: into Egypt. And so they were able to meet us
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  S8: at the border, uh, we were able to secure visas, uh,
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  S8: cross over. And then we made another three hour drive
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  S8: to Sharm el-Sheikh, which is at the southern tip of
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  S8: the Sinai Peninsula. And so that's where we went. Then
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  S8: we were able to hop on a plane and get
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  S8: to Cairo. And now that's where we've been for the
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  S8: last couple of days. And most of us are going
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  S8: to be heading home late this evening. Tomorrow morning.
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  S6: Boy, your tour group's getting their money's worth on this one,
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  S6: my man. They got a story to tell. Boy, they do.
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  S8: And I really I that's a that's exactly right, Karl.
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  S8: I mean, they're going to have some they're going to
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  S8: have some experiences to to tell back at home for sure.
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  S6: Yeah. They are you know a quick one here. And
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  S6: then we're going to get to ask the experts because
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  S6: doctor Mark Yarborough is here to talk about your spiritual life,
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  S6: and we're going to get to that. But one question
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  S6: I am so concerned the rise of anti-Semitism in America.
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  S6: I'm seeing polls that are coming out. I'm not even
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  S6: going to share them because I don't know their validity.
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  S6: But there is there's you've got woke, right? You've got
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  S6: woke left. You've got everything going on. Now, Mark. It's prophetic,
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  S6: isn't it?
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  S8: I believe that it is. Um, you know, when we
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  S8: look at the promises that God has made to the
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  S8: Jewish people and, um, it doesn't mean that they can't
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  S8: do wrong. Obviously, they have rejected the Messiah. Uh, there
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  S8: is a level of judgment that is upon them right
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  S8: now in regard to for anybody, right, that goes into
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  S8: eternity without without the Lord Jesus Christ. But what we
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  S8: do know is that God has made promises to the
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  S8: nation of Israel. I mean, this goes all the way
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  S8: back to Genesis chapter 12, verses one through three, and
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  S8: reiterated in chapter 15. The Lord makes it crystal clear
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  S8: that he is going to be good at his word. But,
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  S8: you know, uh, a passage of Scripture that has always
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  S8: just reminded me of, of of how God takes his
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  S8: word seriously. So Paul and in the book of Romans,
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  S8: I mean, he deals with this question in Romans 910
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  S8: and 11 and and he makes it crystal clear. He says,
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  S8: you know, I don't want any of you to be
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  S8: ignorant of the mystery brothers and sisters, so that you
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  S8: may not be conceited. Israel has experienced a hardening in part,
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  S8: until the full number of the Gentiles has come in,
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  S8: and then a little later he just makes it clear,
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  S8: he says, as far as the gospel is concerned, they
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  S8: are enemies for your sake. And he means that because
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  S8: they've rejected the Lord Jesus. Right? He says, but as
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  S8: far as election is concerned, they are loved on account
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  S8: of the patriarchs, for God's gifts and his call are irrevocable.
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  S8: It's a powerful statement that Paul makes.
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  S6: Yeah, and we use that sometimes without seeing the context
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  S6: about the gifts and callings of God are irrevocable. But
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  S6: it goes back to the patriarchs, which shows God's sovereignty
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  S6: and his providence over those people, and no one's preaching
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  S6: him into heaven. Right, Mark? I think that's the important
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  S6: thing that you've you highlighted there. And that's that's an
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  S6: important nuance. Well, my man, I gotta tell you, this
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  S6: has been a good update coming up here in a minute, though. Uh, boom. Crew. Uh,
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  S6: questions for doctor Mark Yarborough? I know you do. And
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  S6: we're going to talk about rekindling a heart. We're going
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  S6: to drill down on what do you do when your
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  S6: heart has grown cold? We know it's possible. We know
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  S6: that the church of Ephesus found in revelation they left
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  S6: their first love. We also see the church of Laodicea
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  S6: got so Cocksure of themselves that they booted Jesus out
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  S6: of their proverbial home. And they said, in essence to
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  S6: God without saying it aloud, we got this. But they didn't.
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  S6: And you might feel like, man, what happened to my
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  S6: fire for God? Or a question along those lines I'm
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  S6: Doctor Mark Yarbrough with me right now. He's conference speaker,
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  S6: professor and president of Dallas Theological Seminary. And I really
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  S6: want to stay in this lane of what do I
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  S6: do when my heart is growing cold, or I feel
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  S6: disconnected from the presence and the power of God? Those
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  S6: can be unnerving moments, especially when you recognize them. He's
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  S6: got a workout called The Rekindled Heart six essentials for
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  S6: Reviving Your Faith. I'm going to be tapping into some
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  S6: of that. Uh, we got a question that came in
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  S6: via text, Young Thunder. What do we have?
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  S2: Yeah, this question, Doctor Yarbrough says, what role does the
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  S2: word of God play in rekindling my passion for the Lord?
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  S2: And I think maybe the question results from this sometimes
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  S2: when when our passion for the Lord needs rekindling, it
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  S2: can feel hard to go to the Word of God.
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  S2: So what is the role of the Word of God
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  S2: in the sense of rekindling our passion?
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  S8: Well, I think that, um, I first of all, I
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  S8: agree with the spirit of the question. It's hard to
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  S8: to get there when you feel like your spirit's empty. Right?
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  S8: And so sometimes what we have to do, I do
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  S8: believe we've got to make ourselves, uh, keep stepping into
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  S8: the word even when we don't want to. I mean,
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  S8: there are times when, uh, just going through it is
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  S8: going to give the word and to give God through
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  S8: the word, through the power of the spirit and opportunity
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  S8: to pour over us. So, in other words, what's not
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  S8: an excuse is to say, okay, I'm dry, so I'm
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  S8: going to stay dry. Does that make sense? Yeah. You know,
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  S8: in other words, you're going to have to sometimes, uh, say, okay,
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  S8: if God's Word is what I believe it to be
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  S8: and what God says it to be, I am going
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  S8: to choose to allow God's Word to pour over me.
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  S8: You know, a passage of Scripture that hits me all
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  S8: of the time is Romans chapter 12. And a lot
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  S8: of times we zero in on that first part of it,
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  S8: you know. Therefore, in view of God's mercy, offer your
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  S8: bodies as a living sacrifice. And then Paul follows up
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  S8: with that, and he says, do not conform any longer
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  S8: to the pattern of this world, but be transformed. There's
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  S8: a question for us how do you get transformed? Well,
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  S8: one of the ways that you get transformed is to
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  S8: let the word pour over you. And so, look, there's
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  S8: a lot of times I don't feel like working out.
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  S8: Anybody want to raise your hand on that one?
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  S6: Amen.
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  S8: Um, but you know what? Sometimes you gotta keep that
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  S8: pattern moving forward in order to work your way through it.
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  S8: And I believe that is true in regards to submitting
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  S8: yourself to the Word of God. Because as Hebrews chapter
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  S8: four says, the Word of God is alive, active and powerful,
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  S8: sharper than any two edged sword. So we need to
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  S8: have that opportunity for God's Word to pour over us.
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  S6: Yeah. Uh, doctor Mark Yarbrough, our guest right now. Have
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  S6: you got a question for him? It's Ask the Experts week,
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  S6: and we're really finishing strong on this Freedom Friday. Such
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  S6: And so I ask you to just make a call
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  S6: It's not every day that you go. All right. Here's
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  S6: been my question about my spiritual life. What do you
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  S6: say about this 800 555 7898? You can call or
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  S6: text in your question right now. And I've got an
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  S6: interesting one. I don't even know where you fall on
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  S6: this one exactly. But in John 1010 there's this great contrast.
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  S6: The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy.
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  S6: I came that they may have life and have it abundantly.
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  S6: I was reading this and I'm a big guy because
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  S6: I studied under Kermit Eichelberger at, uh, Denver Seminary. Great guy.
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  S6: I mean, his biblical hermeneutics class walked into the class
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  S6: and I thought, this is going to be a yawner.
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  S6: It was a block class mark. So I came in
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  S6: Saturday morning and I was in the front row after
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  S6: a Friday night where I'm like, boy, I repented of that.
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  S6: It was so powerhouse. But ever since then, I've been
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  S6: a big guy. On contextual analysis. Any text out of
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  S6: context is pretext. And you look around this and this
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  S6: is going to blow some circuits for some folks here.
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  S6: What I'm about to say and I don't it won't
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  S6: blow your circuits, but I want your comment on it.
• 19:45
  S6: The thief is in context here. False teachers. He says
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  S6: there's thieves coming in. Now, I know Satan's in the backdrop,
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  S6: but we often blame on Satan. Um, what has happened
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  S6: in our culture, and I wonder how important it is
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  S6: for us to understand that who we're listening to could
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  S6: be the enemy of abundant life, and we need to
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  S6: be more Berean in that sense, because Jesus came to
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  S6: give us, give us abundant life. The thief false teachers
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  S6: in the context steal, kill and destroy. Quick comment on that, Mark.
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  S6: What do you say?
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  S8: Well, I'll tell you what. Back into even our previous thing.
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  S8: I mean, in that same context as you well know,
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  S8: by the time you get down to verse 14, right,
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  S8: it's I am the good shepherd, and I know my
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  S8: sheep and my sheep know me. right? So in other words,
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  S8: there's this concept of saying, look, we've got to be
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  S8: a we need to be in tune with the voice
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  S8: of the shepherd. And that's where I think plowing into
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  S8: God's Word. And there is a life of abundance that
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  S8: is promised to us. And that doesn't mean it's going
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  S8: to be easy, right? Right. Uh, that's not what the
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  S8: promise is. The promise is, is that it's going to
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  S8: be worth it, because we've got a shepherd that is
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  S8: guiding us accordingly. And I do believe that that's talking
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  S8: about life in general here of saying, look, life works
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  S8: better God's way under God's leader, and that is the
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  S8: Lord Jesus. Yeah. So in the beauty of that passage here,
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  S8: you know, I love that imagery of sheep and shepherd.
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  S8: And I say this to people all the time and saying, hey, look, friends,
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  S8: when you're called sheep in Scripture, it's not a compliment.
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  S8: I mean, I you're look, you're talking with a rancher
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  S8: from South Texas right here. I have worked with sheep,
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  S8: and I'm just telling you, man, they're dumb as a brick.
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  S8: And sheep will start following down the wrong path. And
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  S8: they'll get hung up in the trees. They'll get. They'll
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  S8: hang themselves. And if you're a sheep left to its
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  S8: own devices, not going to make it. But a sheep
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  S8: with a shepherd can be led to beautiful pastures. Yeah,
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  S8: and I love the imagery here. So, yeah, it ties
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  S8: us all back to that first discussion.
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  S6: Love it. Okay, doctor. Mark Yarbrough here getting some questions in.
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  S6: All right, it is Ask the Experts week and getting
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  S6: the only question we're lacking is yours right now. 800
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  S6: He's making his way back from the Holy Land, where
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  S6: he was in a bunker for a few days, and
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  S6: he is now in Egypt. Is that right, my man?
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  S8: That is right. We are in Cairo as we speak.
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  S6: Okay, uh, here's a question. If I sin, is it
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  S6: okay to just confess to God or should I do
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  S6: it to others?
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  S8: Well, I'll tell you what. Accountability, uh, comes when we
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  S8: confess that sin in a community of faith. I would
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  S8: argue that it's actually one of the the lost arts in, uh,
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  S8: a lot of our Christian culture today for probably a
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  S8: lot of our listenership. I think first and foremost, we
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  S8: do have to confess that sin to the Lord. But
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  S8: there are times, and I do think that there may
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  S8: be times when we don't do that. But I do
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  S8: believe that when we are walking in a community of
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  S8: faith to help for accountability, it is a purging of
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  S8: our soul. You know, when I when I read the
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  S8: book of First John, you know, I don't think that's
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  S8: talking about, uh, salvation in first John when he's saying
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  S8: if he's faithful and just it's about fellowship. And so
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  S8: fellowship is a big deal, you know, and to have
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  S8: open if, uh, open, uh, relationships with somebody else, if
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  S8: I have offended my brother, if I have offended my sister,
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  S8: I need to go to them and confess that sin,
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  S8: to admit my wrongdoing, to ask their forgiveness. And that
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  S8: is the greatest way to restore that relationship. You and I, Carl.
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  S8: We have seen that with parents to their children and
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  S8: neighbor to neighbor. It Reconciles churches. It's it's it's God's,
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  S8: you know, secret sauce, if you will, for restoring the
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  S8: soul of a relationship.
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  S6: Doctor Mark Yarborough, our guest, I love that. Uh, if
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  S6: Looks like text message is the way to go here today.
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  S6: And that's great. 800 555 7898 uh, quick follow up
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  S6: on that question. I did have a great mentor of mine.
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  S6: Years ago. I asked him a question. I said, al, what?
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  S6: When do you know when you've confessed something to God
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  S6: that you need to now take that to someone else? Uh,
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  S6: because we have we have sins that come at us
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  S6: constantly and we're battling temptation and the like. And he
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  S6: said his feeling is when you go back, when you
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  S6: take a run at this thing with just you and
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  S6: God more than two times you need to go get
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  S6: some support around you. What do you think about that, counsel?
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  S8: I think that's good. I certainly understand that because it
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  S8: means that we need to be walking with other brothers
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  S8: and sisters to hold our feet to the fire and
• 25:47
  S8: our faith and walk with the Lord. Yeah. And I
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  S8: think that's ultimately what he is saying. I also think
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  S8: that you have to ask that question of like, you know,
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  S8: is this a is this a public sin that someone
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  S8: knows that I have offended them? Or is it something
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  S8: that is is public that many other individuals are aware of?
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  S8: So I do believe that there is a discernment that
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  S8: is needed there. And um, because I do think there
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  S8: are certain situations and, you know, we we're not parsing
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  S8: every situation out in terms of every individual sin, but. Right.
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  S8: I mean, I think there are some times that we
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  S8: just need to take it to the Lord, because even
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  S8: if we bring that up in a public venue, it
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  S8: may actually cause more damage.
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  S6: Yes.
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  S8: And so there is a there's a there's a spiritual
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  S8: counsel that is, that probably needs to help someone determine
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  S8: that of whether they need to take it. Some other steps.
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  S8: But I really like that council that you're talking about
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  S8: from your brother there, because that's showing that there's some
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  S8: kind of repetitiveness to this. And we need accountability so
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  S8: that we don't go down that path again.
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  S6: Yeah. And and this is to your point that we've
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  S6: missed this one. Another aspect, Mark, because, uh, people have
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  S6: so gone it alone spiritually that we find ourselves on
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  S6: this sin, shame, repent, repeat, cycle. And sometimes the very
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  S6: thing that will break that cycle is when we confess
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  S6: our sins to one another. So yeah, I couldn't agree more.
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  S6: All right, got a curveball here for you. That's a
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  S6: good one. And I like these questions. It's tough, but
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  S6: it's real. What is your understanding of what the Bible
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  S6: says about women serving in any pastoral position senior pastor, elder, deacon,
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  S6: Sunday school teacher, Etc. now they gave a smattering of things.
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  S6: That goes two ways here. Right, Mark?
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  S8: Oh, yeah. I mean, all of a sudden, see you.
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  S8: You can't get into this topic without having a big discussion. Yeah.
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  S8: And so where we are at the seminaries, where my
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  S8: convictions are as well, is that scripture? Uh, only limits, uh,
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  S8: the role of elder and what we sometimes reference as
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  S8: senior pastor, that's not a biblical word, but a lot
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  S8: of churches use that phrase of elder and senior pastor. Right. Yeah.
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  S8: And that's why when we get into like a first
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  S8: Timothy chapter three, that that is for qualified men, it's
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  S8: not for all men. I mean, I think that's sometimes
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  S8: that is that is missed in the discussion, but it's
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  S8: for qualified men that are clarified there when we get
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  S8: into the role of deacon and deaconesses. That's another topic
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  S8: that certainly would have. But here's what we've got to
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  S8: always keep our eye on. The Lord uses men and
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  S8: women that are believers that are saved by grace through faith,
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  S8: be able to take his word in a variety of contexts. Look,
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  S8: in one sense, we are all called to be shepherds
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  S8: and shepherdesses, if that makes sense. We are called to be,
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  S8: you know, the salt and the light. So ministry doesn't
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  S8: stop and start with a title. If we're looking at
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  S8: an issue of a title, we're missing the boat, right?
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  S8: We're not realizing that we're all called to represent the
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  S8: Lord Jesus. The question that we have is, are there
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  S8: contexts in which we are supposed to do that? And
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  S8: then when we're parsing out the role of leaders in
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  S8: the church, that's where the focus of this discussion comes in.
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  S8: So that's what I see and embrace. That's what I
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  S8: teach that that the only limiting factor that we have
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  S8: is that role of elder is designated in Scripture for
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  S8: qualified men. Again, not all men. It's individuals, men that
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  S8: meet this certain criterion. But we're all called to represent
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  S8: the Lord Jesus.
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  S6: Yeah. And I think when you juxtapose that with Jesus
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  S6: at his time, being one of the most egalitarian, women
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  S6: friendly leaders on the in the history of the world.
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  S6: That's a healthy juxtaposition, isn't it, Mark?
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  S8: Oh, without a question. I mean, look, Jesus made it
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  S8: very clear of his love for men and women, for
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  S8: his his ministry. Uh, circle. Right. I mean, individuals that
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  S8: traveled with him, that ministered with him. You have both
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  S8: men and women. And so you've got this external, uh,
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  S8: presentation of Jesus. That is what the gospel is, because
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  S8: it's for all people. It's for men, it's for women.
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  S8: It's for slave, for free. Male, female, Jew, Gentile. Right.
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  S8: The Gospels for all. And so God longs to use all.
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  S6: Love it. Doctor. Mark. Um. Doc? Doctor Mark Yarborough is
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  S6: our guest right now. And I got to tell you guys,
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  S6: this is golden. You got an opportunity and a half here,
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  S6: We got someone here asking about the King James new
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  S6: King James Version. Uh, is there, uh, a resource that
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  S6: will help even more in my understanding of passages of
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  S6: the gospels? I love that question. They're wanting to get
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  S6: into the context here, Mark.
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  S8: Well, if we're talking about, um, are we talking about
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  S8: Bible translations and the value.
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  S6: Of that, I think it's a.
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  S8: Little bit of both. So resources.
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  S6: So let's, let's expand that. What what do you read
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  S6: from on a day to day basis. What translation.
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  S8: Yeah. You betcha. I read from the old NIV, and
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  S8: I have spent a lot of time on the ESV
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  S8: and the NLT, so, you know, I mean, there's a
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  S8: lot of good English Bible translations. Uh, statistically, across the board,
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  S8: the NIV and the NLT kind of run neck and neck.
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  S8: And that is I actually, I'm a believer in both
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  S8: of those translations. They help us, uh, with, uh, meaning
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  S8: in the text, phrase by phrase. You know, when we
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  S8: start talking about Bible translation, I tell people all the time,
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  S8: I know that people come at this and they say,
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  S8: I want a word for word translation. And my response
• 32:04
  S8: is to say, that's impossible. Um, and I don't mean
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  S8: that ugly, I don't. It's just it's if you had
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  S8: a word for word translation, it would be very difficult
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  S8: to understand. So I'm really thankful for linguists and Bible
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  S8: translators that help say, this is what the meaning of
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  S8: the text is. It's not a commentary, it's helping to
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  S8: phrase it in English phraseology so that we can understand
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  S8: what was actually said in the original tongue, right? Whether
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  S8: it be Greek or Hebrew or Aramaic. And so that's
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  S8: that's the one statement that I would say. So those
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  S8: are mine. I preach out of both of those Bibles
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  S8: when I preach and teach in public. And the reason
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  S8: I do that is because statistically, more people are going
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  S8: to be using those two than anything else. ESV kind
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  S8: of right behind that. Yeah. And um, that's actually one
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  S8: of the reasons I'm not anti any translation of the Bible.
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  S8: I do believe that every English translation has strengths and weaknesses. Right. And, um,
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  S8: you know, I tell people when I, when it comes
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  S8: to the King James, I'm saying, um, you know, we
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  S8: don't we don't use old English anymore. We don't put
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  S8: on our verbs. I'm not making fun of it. I'm
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  S8: saying our question is comprehension, right? Yes. And so, um,
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  S8: I think we've got to be, to use your phrase,
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  S8: that you used out of the book of acts. We
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  S8: got to be good Bereans here. And I want to
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  S8: understand what God has said. And so when it comes
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  S8: to that, that's what I say. I tell you a
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  S8: free resource that I give people all the time. Um,
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  S8: that is out there. Uh, one of my colleagues that
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  S8: I talked with at Dallas Seminary, uh, he taught the
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  S8: Bible exposition department for years and years. His name is
• 33:37
  S8: Tom Constable, and Tom Constable has put all of his
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  S8: Bible notes out for free. It's actually on a on
• 33:45
  S8: a site called Sonic Light. But if you just Google that,
• 33:49
  S8: it is such a wonderful. Oh my goodness. It is
• 33:53
  S8: a treasure trove. Um, I probably pushed that more than
• 33:58
  S8: anything else as a free resource for people, and you
• 34:01
  S8: can grab it book by book. So every book of
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  S8: the Bible and just kind of scroll through, just almost
• 34:08
  S8: like a commentary. And he's going to point you to
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  S8: a lot of resources, and he's going to kind of frame,
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  S8: let's say it's a it's a difficult passage to, uh,
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  S8: to work with. He'll say, well, here's kind of the
• 34:19
  S8: three basic interpretations where conservative evangelical theology lands on. And
• 34:27
  S8: here are the issues for each one of those. It is,
• 34:29
  S8: and it's free to the world. I have so appreciated
• 34:33
  S8: that Tom is working on these all the time, and
• 34:35
  S8: he's he is leaving a treasure for the church whenever
• 34:38
  S8: the Lord takes him home. But I'm so appreciative of
• 34:41
  S8: that tool.
• 34:42
  S6: Okay. Excellent. All right. Got a question here that is, um, really,
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  S6: really heartfelt here. We're going to answer this on the
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  S6: other side of a quick break here. 800 555 7898.
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  S6: Here it is. Mark. Uh, the the husband is to
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  S6: be the spiritual head of the house. My husband is Muslim.
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  S6: So what does that mean for me? Uh, please pray
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  S6: for his salvation and our kids. And I see your
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  S6: name there. I'm not going to mention it on air,
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  S6: but I'm going to pray for you right now, and
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  S6: we'll answer that question coming up. And we want to
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  S6: distinguish here, Mark, because, oh, one of the great dangers
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  S6: in the church today is that we we wield. Some
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  S6: men wrongly wield headship as authority rather than spiritual responsibility.
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  S6: So we'll break that down straight ahead with our guest
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  S6: on Ask the Experts.
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  S1: You're listening to Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
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  S6: Doctor Mark Yarborough is with me right now. He is
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  S6: the president of Dallas Theological Seminary. And we're going to
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  S6: have a link for the Rekindled Heart six Essentials for
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  S6: Reviving Your Faith. Also in that link is going to
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  S6: be Sonic Lite, this website that has all of these
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  S6: study notes of an amazing prof from DTS. So we're
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  S6: going to have all that for you. Mark, a question
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  S6: came in the husband is to be the spiritual head
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  S6: of the house. My husband is Muslim. So what does
• 36:01
  S6: that mean for me? You know, it brings a couple
• 36:04
  S6: of things. What? Let's start with headship. Then we'll go
• 36:07
  S6: to this woman whose husband is Muslim. What does it mean?
• 36:10
  S6: And what does it not mean, Mark?
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  S8: Yeah, it doesn't mean. And you alluded to this, Carl.
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  S8: It doesn't mean power and control, that's for sure. Uh,
• 36:20
  S8: it certainly means spiritual direction in that regard. In the
• 36:23
  S8: context of a home that is, uh, under the headship
• 36:27
  S8: of the Lord to begin with. And so if to
• 36:30
  S8: transition to this situation, if we have someone that is
• 36:33
  S8: a believer and that is not a believer. So our
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  S8: dear sister, who is in reference to her husband, who
• 36:39
  S8: is not, you know, we would point them to first
• 36:41
  S8: Corinthians chapter seven, verse 13. And if a woman has
• 36:45
  S8: a husband who is not a believer and he's willing
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  S8: to live with her, she must not divorce him. For
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  S8: the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife. And
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  S8: now what I understand that to actually be talking about
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  S8: is that there's an opportunity for him to hear the
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  S8: gospel and see the gospel on a regular basis and
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  S8: for their children as well. So that's what I when
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  S8: I counsel individuals, I'm like, hey, show them Jesus, you
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  S8: live it out in front of them.
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  S6: Beautiful. Okay. We're going to get as many questions as
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  S6: we can here. Uh, this is heartfelt. I would like
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  S6: to know your thoughts about battling with inner cravings and
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  S6: disturbing dreams. I wake up in the middle of the
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  S6: night feeling attacked spiritually, and I feel like I'm being tormented.
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  S6: This is more common than people might imagine, and they
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  S6: suffer alone at times. What do you say, Marc?
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  S8: Well, number one, I say don't suffer alone. Number one,
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  S8: it's always remember that the Lord is with us. I
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  S8: do strongly believe that there are times for connection with
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  S8: biblical counselors and individuals that are solid Christians that we
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  S8: can make a journey with. I believe, as we made
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  S8: reference a minute ago in regard to Romans chapter 12 of,
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  S8: you know, be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
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  S8: We need to spend time with God's people in God's Word,
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  S8: listening to really good things, and to, uh, listen to, uh,
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  S8: good praise and worship music, to be able to put
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  S8: our mind to set our minds on things above as, uh,
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  S8: Colossians chapter three says.
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  S6: Yeah. Uh, what about renouncing those. There's no doubt there's
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  S6: demonic attacks in the night. I'm reminded the Lord rebuke you, Satan,
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  S6: this isn't us doing battle. It's our our Savior. Mark.
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  S8: That is exactly right. There is a there is a
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  S8: spiritual war that is going on. The evil one is
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  S8: at work. The evil one wants to, uh, take us down.
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  S8: And so we need to remember that, uh, you know,
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  S8: he he that is within us is stronger than he
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  S8: that's in the world. And so we need to keep
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  S8: claiming what is ours. That's a that's a very appropriate claim,
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  S8: by the way, to be able to claim, uh, the
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  S8: power of the Lord Jesus and the spirit that indwells us, that, uh,
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  S8: we are protected because of the work of our Savior.
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  S6: Another question just came in. I mean, leadership at a church.
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  S6: And since joining the leadership team, I'm now struggling to
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  S6: know if I am to leave look for another church.
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  S6: When is it biblical to leave? And then the context here.
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  S6: Sometimes it's hard to look past the actions of others
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  S6: in leadership acting a certain way. And now I see
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  S6: a lot of things I wish I haven't. How do
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  S6: I deal with that? Do I ignore it or do
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  S6: I just move on?
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  S8: I don't think you ignore it. I certainly think that
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  S8: you acknowledge what is happening. Leadership is hard. Leadership is difficult.
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  S8: I think it's important to have a strong counsel that
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  S8: is outside of your environment, someone that is not there,
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  S8: that is not in your particular situation. It is not
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  S8: a colleague in that regard. Find a very seasoned veteran
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  S8: in ministry. Ask if they will be a confidant for you.
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  S8: Someone that shepherds and walks alongside of you. Someone that
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  S8: is more mature in your walk of faith, and to
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  S8: be able to use them as a sounding board to
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  S8: help you think outside of your environment so that you
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  S8: can have a clearer perspective.
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  S6: You know something that's often overlooked, Mark. And having been
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  S6: a lead pastor for 30 years. And one of the
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  S6: things that I cherish is when people approach people rather
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  S6: than just say nothing. Oftentimes, when they see behaviors that
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  S6: maybe are truly inconsistent with God's Word and calling on leadership,
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  S6: sometimes that can be restorative. In staying silent, I'm thinking
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  S6: Matthew 18 and and that's a sin against you. So
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  S6: it may not be that specifically, but the principle is
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  S6: we need to go to people. I mean, we find
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  S6: that in James five, um, and we find repeatedly in Scripture,
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  S6: when you go to a person, you can cover over
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  S6: a multitude of sins. Speak to that briefly.
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  S8: Yeah, that's exactly what the text says. I mean, uh,
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  S8: what can be accomplished when we go to someone and
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  S8: we speak softly? We don't go in anger. Uh, when
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  S8: we go in a proper spirit, if you will, and
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  S8: to say, hey, I'm coming because I love you. I
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  S8: care for you. I'm struggling with this. Will you help
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  S8: me work through it? I think that there is a
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  S8: biblical model that we have just about lost when we
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  S8: clam up, and we let things kind of fester inside. Uh,
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  S8: it is a recipe for, uh, the wrong thing, that
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  S8: is for sure. So having that spiritual maturity to approach
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  S8: a sister or a brother in Christ, even if it's
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  S8: not an issue of direct sin or rebellion, maybe it
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  S8: is just back on that issue of needing to restore
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  S8: a relationship. That's one of the that's one of the
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  S8: signs of maturity, of being able to talk to someone
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  S8: else in the faith.
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  S6: Somebody did want some clarity, and I think this is good.
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  S6: What are the two translations that you primarily teach the
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  S6: word from? Again, Mark.
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  S8: Yeah, I use the NIV, the old NIV, and um,
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  S8: then I also use the NLT, which is the New
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  S8: Living Translation. And I think both of those do a
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  S8: really good job of having a smooth English For what
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  S8: I consider an average reader. And don't don't view average
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  S8: as anything less. I'm saying it is. Yeah, exactly. It's
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  S8: where most of us speak. And I think those are
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  S8: very smooth. And I also I'm also a big fan
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  S8: of the ESV. So those are kind of my three
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  S8: that I work with a lot.
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  S6: Okay. Uh, really quickly here. Boom crew. I want you
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  S6: a couple of links there. One is to the rekindled
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  S6: heard Mark's heart. And you're going to benefit from this text.
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  S6: The word heart to 800 555, 78, 98. And in
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  S6: that link we have went and we went and found
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  S6: those study notes and that Mark referred to. So we've
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  S6: got that link in there as well. Um, exhaustive study
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  S6: I got 30s mark. We start our share in earnest
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  S8: I tell you what, guys, we live in a world
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