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- 0:00Host 1: You know there is this um this fascinating concept in archaeology.
- 0:03Host 2: Oh, yeah.
- 0:04Host 1: Yeah, where you can take a single core sample of earth,
- 0:08Host 1: like just one narrow tube of soil,
- 0:10Host 1: and by looking at the layers you can basically read the entire history of a civilization.
- 0:15Host 2: Right, you see the years of drought or, you know, sudden volcanic ash.
- 0:20Host 1: Exactly.
- 0:21Host 1: Or periods of incredible abundance.
- 0:23Host 1: And today, for this deep dive,
- 0:25Host 1: we are taking a core sample of a single day in a single country.
- 0:29Host 2: Mm. And man, the contradictions in the layers are just jarring.
- 0:33Host 1: They really are.
- 0:35Host 1: We are looking at a nation where citizens are pouring
- 0:38Host 1: uh 600,000 euros out of their own pockets every single day
- 0:43Host 1: into weight loss injections.
- 0:45Host 2: Which is wild.
- 0:46Host 1: It is wild.
- 0:48Host 1: Especially wild at the exact same time basic state food support
- 0:52Host 1: for the poorest citizens has hit this massive bureaucratic brick wall.
- 0:56Host 2: Mm-hmm.
- 0:57Host 1: And this is amidst crippling grocery prices, you know.
- 1:00Host 2: It's a really striking dichotomy.
- 1:03Host 2: And, you know, when you isolate a specific moment in time...
- 1:06Host 2: in this case, we're looking at Portugal on Monday, May 18th, 2026.
- 1:11Host 2: When you do that, the noise of the daily news cycle just drops away,
- 1:15Host 2: you stop looking at isolated headlines,
- 1:18Host 2: and you start actually seeing the underlying tectonic plates
- 1:21Host 2: of a society shifting.
- 1:23Host 1: I love that visual.
- 1:25Host 2: Yeah.
- 1:26Host 1: And for you listening, that is exactly our mission for this deep dive today.
- 1:31Host 1: We've pulled the front pages of four major national newspapers.
- 1:35Host 2: Público, Diário de Notícias, Correio da Manhã, and Jornal de Notícias.
- 1:39Host 1: Yep, those are the four.
- 1:41Host 1: And we are going to extract the underlying narrative
- 1:45Host 1: of a society caught in this, like, dizzying transformation.
- 1:48Host 1: They're trying to balance their historical identity
- 1:52Host 1: with some honestly brutal modern economic realities.
- 1:55Host 2: Yeah, let's start at the absolute foundation of any state, which is its demographic.
- 2:00Host 1: The people.
- 2:01Host 2: Exactly, the people.
- 2:03Host 2: Because the physical makeup of Portugal is changing rapidly.
- 2:06Host 2: The papers are front-paging a massive milestone,
- 2:09Host 2: which is the highest birth rate the country has seen in 14 years.
- 2:13Host 1: Yeah, 14 years.
- 2:15Host 2: 14 years. And um a spike in birth rates
- 2:19Host 2: after a prolonged period of demographic winter
- 2:22Host 2: usually points to a really fundamental shift in the population's composition.
- 2:26Host 1: Right, because historically, Portugal has really struggled
- 2:30Host 1: with an aging population and, well, emigration.
- 2:32Host 2: Spot on. What these sources reveal is that this new vitality
- 2:36Host 2: isn't necessarily coming from traditional demographic trends.
- 2:40Host 2: It's coming from a profound wave of immigration
- 2:43Host 2: that is actively redefining Portuguese culture.
- 2:46Host 1: And you see the mechanics of that cultural shift
- 2:49Host 1: beautifully illustrated in this special series running in Público.
- 2:53Host 1: It's called "Cresci Cá", which translates to "I grew up here."
- 2:57Host 2: Ah, yeah, that series is fantastic.
- 2:59Host 1: It really is. It focuses on the children of Pakistani immigrants.
- 3:03Host 1: And the crucial detail here is that these aren't kids struggling to assimilate
- 3:07Host 1: as, you know, outsiders.
- 3:09Host 2: Right.
- 3:10Host 1: Their entire formative identity is Portuguese.
- 3:13Host 1: And then, parallel to that, in the Diário de Notícias,
- 3:16Host 1: we see that Brazilian immigrants have founded a brand new football club
- 3:20Host 1: called Paladinos CF.
- 3:22Host 2: But they didn't do it in the big cities, did they?
- 3:26Host 1: No, that's the thing. They didn't do it in the metropolitan hubs
- 3:30Host 1: of Lisbon or Porto. They set it up in the interior of Portugal.
- 3:34Host 2: And that geographic detail is so critical.
- 3:37Host 2: Because the interior of Portugal has suffered
- 3:40Host 2: from severe depopulation and brain drain for decades.
- 3:43Host 1: Yeah, just hollowing out.
- 3:45Host 2: Exactly. Yeah. So by establishing a football club in these hollowed-out regions,
- 3:49Host 2: these Brazilian immigrants are, like,
- 3:54Host 2: utilizing the universal language of sports as a socio-economic anchor.
- 3:57Host 1: Oh, that's a great way to put it.
- 4:00Host 2: They aren't just integrating,
- 4:02Host 2: they are actively revitalizing the local community infrastructure
- 4:06Host 2: in places where the state has historically really struggled to maintain a foothold.
- 4:10Host 1: It is entirely a grassroots mechanism for integration.
- 4:14Host 1: And actually, speaking of sports forcing cultural visibility,
- 4:17Host 1: there was another massive milestone over the weekend at the Jamor Stadium.
- 4:21Host 2: The historic national sports venue.
- 4:23Host 1: Right. They hosted the first-ever female classic for the Cup final.
- 4:27Host 1: Benfica beat FC Porto 2-0.
- 4:29Host 2: Wow.
- 4:30Host 1: Tens of thousands of people watching women play at the absolute highest level.
- 4:35Host 1: But, and this is where the contradiction comes in...
- 4:39Host 1: right next to these stories of high-profile cultural progress,
- 4:42Host 1: there is this incredibly stark quote from Sara da Costa.
- 4:46Host 2: What did she say?
- 4:48Host 1: She points out that in Austria,
- 4:50Host 1: there are literally more men named Franz serving as mayors
- 4:54Host 1: than there are women total.
- 4:56Host 2: Oh, wow.
- 4:58Host 2: That is... yeah, that highlights the friction
- 5:01Host 2: between cultural visibility and systemic power perfectly.
- 5:04Host 1: Doesn't it?
- 5:06Host 2: Because a society can easily fill a stadium
- 5:092: to celebrate a female sports milestone,
- 5:12Host 2: but the entrenched political machinery,
- 5:15Host 2: you know, the mayoralties, the regional governance,
- 5:18Host 2: it remains stubbornly homogeneous.
- 5:20Host 1: The cultural layer is evolving rapidly,
- 5:23Host 1: but the institutional layer is lagging decades behind.
- 5:26Host 2: Exactly. And speaking of the institutional layer,
- 5:30Host 2: the government's response to this shifting population
- 5:33Host 2: involves a very, uh, very strange legal maneuver
- 5:36Host 2: regarding the youth bracket change.
- 5:39Host 1: Yes! They are proposing a brand new legal definition for the word youth.
- 5:43Host 1: They want to stretch the bracket to encompass anyone
- 5:46Host 1: from 14 years old all the way up to 35 years old.
- 5:50Host 2: I mean, historically, at 35, you were considered well into your mid-career,
- 5:54Host 2: probably fully independent, maybe having kids of your own.
- 5:58Host 2: So my question is, is this fundamental shift
- 6:01Host 2: in how social policy is applied driven by changing biology,
- 6:05Host 2: or is the state just slapping a new friendlier label
- 6:09Host 2: on the grim reality that young adults can simply no longer afford to leave the nest?
- 6:14Host 1: Well, I think it's pretty clear it is entirely an economic recalibration
- 6:18Host 1: masquerading as a demographic one.
- 6:21Host 2: Yeah, that makes sense.
- 6:23Host 1: By officially categorizing a 34-year-old as a youth,
- 6:26Host 1: the state is effectively acknowledging a systemic failure
- 6:29Host 1: in the transition to financial independence.
- 6:32Host 2: Right, because it changes policy, doesn't it?
- 6:35Host 1: Massively. It legally extends the window for youth subsidies,
- 6:38Host 1: entry-level housing assistance, and specific employment programs.
- 6:42Host 1: The state is doing this because a 35-year-old today
- 6:46Host 1: has the purchasing power, wage stagnation, and, uh, lack of asset ownership
- 6:49Host 1: that maybe a 22-year-old might have had a generation ago.
- 6:53Host 2: Man, that delayed financial independence perfectly frames
- 6:57Host 2: the economic contradictions we see on the health and wellness fronts today.
- 7:01Host 2: Let's look at the mechanics of this injection craze.
- 7:04Host 1: The weight loss drugs.
- 7:06Host 2: Yeah. Portuguese citizens are spending 600,000 euros a day
- 7:10Host 2: on new weight loss injections.
- 7:12Host 2: Pharmacies are moving over 2300 packages daily.
- 7:15Host 1: Every single day.
- 7:17Host 2: And the papers explicitly note the state is not subsidizing this yet.
- 7:20Host 2: This is pure out-of-pocket private money flowing directly
- 7:24Host 2: into pharmaceutical vanity and wellness.
- 7:27Host 1: And it sits in such harsh contrast
- 7:30Host 1: to the broader medical advancements happening simultaneously.
- 7:33Host 1: Like, down in Porto, Portugal's premier health research institute, i3S,
- 7:37Host 1: is nearing the treatment phase for groundbreaking projects.
- 7:41Host 2: Really important stuff, right?
- 7:43Host 1: Yeah, spanning cancer research to regenerative medicine.
- 7:46Host 1: So you have this booming, highly capitalized upper echelon
- 7:49Host 1: of medical science and private wellness.
- 7:51Host 2: Right, but then I flipped the page,
- 7:54Host 2: and the structural floor is falling out for the poorest citizens.
- 7:57Host 2: State food support is completely stalling.
- 8:00Host 1: Yeah, it's grim.
- 8:02Host 2: The government isn't reinforcing food assistance,
- 8:04Host 2: even though inflation is driving grocery prices through the roof.
- 8:08Host 1: Yeah.
- 8:09Host 2: And at the same time, the minister is actively facing heavy criticism
- 8:13Host 2: for defending a higher VAT, a value-added tax, on restaurants.
- 8:17Host 1: Yeah.
- 8:18Host 2: I hear 'K-shaped economy' thrown around by economists to explain this, but...
- 8:23Host 2: looking at these front pages, it feels less like a 'K'
- 8:27Host 2: and more like two completely different planets.
- 8:30Host 2: Is this just a standard wealth gap,
- 8:34Host 2: or has the public safety net fundamentally decoupled from the private market?
- 8:38Host 1: I'd argue it is a total decoupling.
- 8:41Host 1: A K-shaped economic reality means the top tier's wealth
- 8:45Host 1: is actively compounding, usually through asset ownership and booming private sectors,
- 8:49Host 1: while the bottom tier's purchasing power is actively eroding due to inflation.
- 8:53Host 2: So they aren't even participating in the same economy.
- 8:56Host 1: Exactly. These two economies operate in entirely different silos.
- 8:59Host 1: The private health and wellness sector operates on frictionless market demand.
- 9:03Host 1: If a demographic has the disposable income for weight loss drugs,
- 9:07Host 1: the pharmaceutical supply chain fulfills it instantly.
- 9:10Host 2: Boom, 2300 packages a day.
- 9:12Host 1: Right. But the public safety net relies on the slow grind
- 9:16Host 1: of state bureaucracy and tax revenues.
- 9:19Host 1: Which explains the VAT increase on restaurants.
- 9:21Host 1: The minister is trying to capture tax revenue from the demographic
- 9:25Host 1: that can still afford to dine out, to theoretically fund the state.
- 9:29Host 2: Precisely. But those bureaucratic gears turn agonizingly slowly.
- 9:32Host 2: So the wealth flows instantly to the pharmacies,
- 9:35Host 2: while the heavily taxed food support trickles through administrative bottlenecks
- 9:39Host 2: before it ever reaches a family struggling to buy groceries.
- 9:43Host 1: And nowhere is that friction more visceral
- 9:46Host 1: than in the basic human need for shelter.
- 9:48Host 1: Because if food and healthcare are squeezing the population,
- 9:52Host 1: the housing market is essentially forcing structural innovations
- 9:55Host 1: that feel, well, somewhat dystopian.
- 9:58Host 2: You're talking about Amadora.
- 10:00Host 1: Yes. In Amadora, they are literally building Lego-style modular buildings.
- 10:03Host 1: They prefabricate these pieces and then just stack them up
- 10:07Host 1: to build reduced-rent housing quickly.
- 10:10Host 2: Which is an innovative engineering solution.
- 10:13Host 1: It is. But the detail that really stands out is the corporate intervention.
- 10:16Host 1: The government is now offering tax benefits to companies
- 10:20Host 1: to house their own workers.
- 10:22Host 1: And 200 companies are currently utilizing this.
- 10:24Host 2: Right. When I read that, my mind immediately goes to the 19th-century Industrial Revolution.
- 10:28Host 2: The classic company towns, where the factory owner also owned your house
- 10:33Host 2: and the local grocery store.
- 10:36Host 2: Are we innovating our way out of a housing crisis,
- 10:40Host 2: or just reverting to a Gilded Age system where your boss is also your landlord?
- 10:43Host 1: It is absolutely a modern adaptation of that exact dynamic.
- 10:47Host 1: And it's driven by a massive failure of supply and demand
- 10:51Host 1: in the private housing market.
- 10:54Host 1: The state doesn't have the capital or the speed
- 10:57Host 1: to build enough public housing, even with those modular Lego-style builds.
- 11:01Host 2: They just can't scale it fast enough.
- 11:04Host 1: No, they can't. So they look to corporations which actually have the capital
- 11:08Host 1: and a desperate need to retain talent in a tight labor market.
- 11:12Host 1: And they use tax benefits to essentially outsource a public housing problem
- 11:16Host 1: to private employers.
- 11:18Host 2: I mean, it gets roofs over heads today,
- 11:21Host 2: but the psychological leverage over the worker seems immense.
- 11:24Host 1: That is the systemic risk right there.
- 11:26Host 1: While modern Portuguese labor laws provide protections
- 11:30Host 1: that 19th-century coal miners didn't have, the inherent coercion remains.
- 11:34Host 1: We are incentivizing corporations to step into a role traditionally held by the state
- 11:38Host 1: or a regulated private market.
- 11:41Host 2: And the massive international players are reading these exact same economic tea leaves
- 11:45Host 2: and completely restructuring their presence. Just look at IKEA.
- 11:49Host 1: Oh, that's a fascinating pivot.
- 11:51Host 2: The CEO, Juvencio Maeztu, gave an interview
- 11:54Host 2: outlining a total reinvention of their Portuguese strategy.
- 11:58Host 2: They are pivoting away from those massive blue warehouse labyrinths
- 12:02Host 2: and focusing on smaller stores, doubling down on affordable pricing
- 12:06Host 2: specifically to combat the ongoing crisis.
- 12:09Host 1: And investing in green energy, right?
- 12:12Host 2: Yes. Crucially, Maeztu notes they are making massive green investments,
- 12:15Host 2: explicitly stating that Portugal's wind and sun make it perfect for renewables.
- 12:20Host 1: It is a fascinating look at corporate adaptation
- 12:23Host 1: because IKEA recognizes that the extended youth demographic,
- 12:26Host 1: you know, those 35-year-olds we discussed,
- 12:29Host 1: they are likely living in smaller, increasingly expensive urban apartments
- 12:33Host 1: or maybe even that modular housing.
- 12:36Host 1: They need smaller, highly affordable, space-saving furniture.
- 12:39Host 2: That makes total sense.
- 12:41Host 1: And simultaneously, by investing heavily in Portuguese wind and solar,
- 12:45Host 1: IKEA isn't just adhering to environmental governance.
- 12:49Host 1: They are aggressively hedging against future geopolitical energy shocks.
- 12:53Host 1: They are building an energy-independent corporate ecosystem
- 12:56Host 1: because they see the fragility of the state's infrastructure.
- 12:59Host 2: Wow. Yeah. Which brings us to probably the most alarming layer of this core sample.
- 13:03Host 2: While corporations are acting efficiently, you know, building modular housing,
- 13:07Host 2: investing in renewables, managing their supply chains,
- 13:10Host 2: the public institutions meant to protect society are showing catastrophic cracks.
- 13:14Host 1: The institutional failures highlighted today are tough to read.
- 13:18Host 1: They are. Let's look at them.
- 13:20Host 1: Investigative journalist Fernanda Câncio has a massive exposé
- 13:24Host 1: in the Diário de Notícias revealing what she calls
- 13:27Host 1: inhumane conditions inside the prison system.
- 13:30Host 2: Horrific stuff.
- 13:31Host 1: And in the Correio da Manhã, there are reports of terrible child abuse
- 13:35Host 1: at a creche in Amares.
- 13:37Host 1: And the terrifying mechanism of that story
- 13:40Host 1: is that the abuse lasted for over a year
- 13:43Host 1: before the oversight system caught it.
- 13:45Host 2: These are what we call systemic shatters.
- 13:48Host 1: Systemic shatters?
- 13:49Host 2: Yeah, when a state's financial and administrative resources
- 13:53Host 2: are stretched to the breaking point by inflation,
- 13:56Host 2: housing crises, and healthcare demands,
- 13:59Host 2: the invisible systems of oversight rot first.
- 14:02Host 1: Ah, because no one is watching the watchers.
- 14:05Host 2: Exactly. A prison system or a childcare regulatory board
- 14:09Host 2: requires constant, well-funded vigilance.
- 14:12Host 2: When budgets tighten, those audits and inspections decrease,
- 14:16Host 2: which leads directly to the inhumane conditions and prolonged abuse
- 14:20Host 2: these journalists are uncovering.
- 14:23Host 1: And while that state oversight breaks down,
- 14:26Host 1: the shadow economy thrives in the vacuum.
- 14:29Host 1: The Jornal de Notícias reports that tobacco smuggling,
- 14:32Host 1: run by highly sophisticated organized crime networks,
- 14:36Host 1: is costing the state 120,000 euros every single day in lost revenue.
- 14:40Host 1: Plus the health risks.
- 14:42Host 2: Right. They bypass all sanitary controls, creating a huge public health risk.
- 14:46Host 2: We have 120,000 euros bleeding out of the state daily through the black market,
- 14:50Host 2: while citizens legally pump 600,000 euros a day into unregulated private wellness.
- 14:55Host 2: It's staggering.
- 14:57Host 1: How does the state capture the revenue it needs to function
- 15:00Host 1: when the money is flowing everywhere except into the public treasury?
- 15:03Host 2: It's... well, it's like watching an outdated tollbooth trying to tax high-speed digital transactions.
- 15:08Host 1: Ha, that's exactly what it is.
- 15:10Host 2: The wealth is moving too fast and through completely different channels
- 15:14Host 2: for the old bureaucratic infrastructure to catch it.
- 15:17Host 2: The state's tax capture system simply cannot process the sophisticated logistics
- 15:22Host 2: of modern smuggling rings.
- 15:24Host 2: Nor can it quickly pivot to capture the sudden explosion of private pharmaceutical spending.
- 15:29Host 1: And to make matters worse, the state is still paying off the debt of past catastrophes.
- 15:33Host 1: A new European Central Bank study featured today reveals
- 15:37Host 1: that the 2017 wildfires in Portugal cost the economy a staggering 1 billion euros.
- 15:41Host 2: 1 billion. Yes. And the long tail of that disaster caused a 40% loss in tourism
- 15:46Host 2: in the central region that lasted for years.
- 15:49Host 1: The compounding effect of disaster recovery is a massive drag on systemic repair.
- 15:53Host 1: The state is actively trying to plug the 1 billion euro hole
- 15:57Host 1: left by the wildfires of a decade ago,
- 15:59Host 1: while simultaneously bleeding 120,000 euros a day to smugglers.
- 16:03Host 2: So they just can't catch up.
- 16:06Host 1: They can't. That chronic lack of capital leads directly to the failing prisons
- 16:09Host 1: and the lack of creche oversight we just discussed.
- 16:12Host 2: Which brings us to the political friction.
- 16:15Host 2: And for you listening, we need to be explicitly clear here.
- 16:18Host 2: We are looking at a snapshot of a highly charged political landscape.
- 16:22Host 2: We are not taking sides, endorsing policies, or evaluating the ethics of these actors.
- 16:27Host 1: Right, absolutely no sides here.
- 16:30Host 2: We are purely and impartially reporting the headlines to examine the mechanisms of political friction
- 16:34Host 2: in Portugal on this specific Monday.
- 16:37Host 2: And man, the friction is severe.
- 16:39Host 2: Across the board, institutions are pushing back against the central government.
- 16:43Host 1: Everywhere you look. Family doctors are actively contesting their evaluations,
- 16:47Host 1: demanding more functional systems.
- 16:49Host 1: Diário de Notícias Mayor João Azevedo publicly called the application of community funds a catastrophe.
- 16:54Host 2: Mayor Azevedo's frustration highlights a classic breakdown between centralized bureaucracy and localized needs.
- 16:59Host 1: How so?
- 17:00Host 2: Well, the central government designs funding structures based on macroeconomic data.
- 17:04Host 2: But those structures often fail when applied to the hyper-specific realities of a municipality.
- 17:09Host 2: Whether a local mayor is trying to combat interior depopulation
- 17:13Host 2: or address an immediate modular housing crisis,
- 17:16Host 2: if the community funds are bottlenecked by central red tape, the resulting friction is explosive.
- 17:21Host 1: And the political figures themselves are navigating a minefield.
- 17:24Host 1: Reports today scrutinize a politician named Aguiar-Branco,
- 17:28Host 1: alleging he has 31 hidden or undeclared roles.
- 17:30Host 1: Meanwhile, you have complex coalition dynamics playing out in real time.
- 17:34Host 1: Nuno Melo, representing the conservative CDS party,
- 17:38Host 1: is trying to navigate an incredibly delicate strategic tightrope.
- 17:41Host 2: He's in a tough spot. He has to maintain loyalty to the governing AD coalition
- 17:46Host 2: to keep his current influence, while simultaneously promising his base
- 17:49Host 2: a larger, more dominant CDS in the future.
- 17:52Host 1: It is the ultimate political Catch-22.
- 17:55Host 1: Nuno Melo's strategic dilemma, alongside the local outrage from mayors and the transparency scandals,
- 18:00Host 1: illustrates why comprehensive systemic reform is currently paralyzed.
- 18:03Host 2: Because everyone is just fighting for survival.
- 18:06Host 1: Exactly. The political capital required to overhaul the tax capture system,
- 18:10Host 1: reform the prisons, or build state-owned housing
- 18:13Host 1: is instead being entirely consumed by coalition management and institutional infighting.
- 18:18Host 2: So, stepping back from this core sample,
- 18:20Host 2: what have we actually found in the layers of May 18th, 2026?
- 18:24Host 2: We've watched a nation redefine its demographic identity, driven by a diverse wave of immigration
- 18:28Host 2: that is repopulating the interior while the government masks a delayed economic reality
- 18:33Host 2: by legally extending the definition of youth to age 35.
- 18:37Host 1: And we've examined the mechanics of a completely decoupled economy.
- 18:41Host 1: Vast amounts of private capital flow instantly into weight loss treatments,
- 18:45Host 1: while the state struggles to fund food support or capture revenue from sophisticated shadow economies.
- 18:50Host 2: We've seen the traditional housing market buckle so severely that modular Lego buildings are rising,
- 18:55Host 2: and the state is outsourcing housing to corporate employers.
- 18:59Host 2: And underneath it all, the long shadow of past disasters
- 19:02Host 2: and the current paralysis of political friction
- 19:06Host 2: leave essential oversight systems crumbling.
- 19:08Host 1: It is a remarkable snapshot of a society innovating rapidly in the private sector
- 19:13Host 1: while grappling with profound public vulnerabilities.
- 19:16Host 1: And as we wrap up this analysis, I want to leave you with a lingering thought
- 19:21Host 1: regarding that intersection of corporate power and basic human needs.
- 19:25Host 1: We saw that 200 companies are receiving tax breaks to provide housing for their employees.
- 19:30Host 2: Right. It solves an immediate supply issue today.
- 19:33Host 1: But if this trend accelerates, and employer-provided housing becomes the standard model
- 19:38Host 1: amidst an ongoing real estate crisis, what happens to a worker's fundamental freedom to unionize,
- 19:43Host 1: to negotiate a raise, or to simply quit
- 19:46Host 1: when walking away from their job means immediately facing eviction?
- 19:50Host 2: Wow, that is the kind of mechanism that doesn't fit neatly into a headline,
- 19:54Host 2: but quietly alters the entire social contract of a country.
- 19:58Host 2: Thank you so much for joining us on this deep dive
- 20:02Host 2: into the front pages of Portugal.
- 20:05Host 2: Keep questioning the underlying logic behind the news,
- 20:08Host 2: and we will catch you on the next deep dive.