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- 0:51[SPEAKER_01]: Today, I'm deeply honored to welcome Dr. Softrah Lorman, scientist, educator, humanitarian, and global peace builder.
- 1:00[SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Lorman earned her PhD in chemistry from Weisman Institute of Science and conducted research at Cornell, Northwestern and ETAG, Zurich.
- 1:11[SPEAKER_01]: She is a president of the Malta Conference Foundation, which uses science diplomacy to build bridges to peace in the Middle East by bringing together scientists from across the region, including Nobel laureates under one roof to foster collaboration and trust.
- 1:29[SPEAKER_01]: She is also pioneered innovative methods of teaching science through art,
- 1:33[SPEAKER_01]: music, dance, drama, and rap, and powering under privileged students around the world.
- 1:40[SPEAKER_01]: Her work in human rights has helped prevent executions, free prisoners, protest, dissidents globally.
- 1:47[SPEAKER_01]: She has received more than 40 international awards and has been nominated multiple times for the Nobel Peace Prize.
- 1:54[SPEAKER_01]: I am so grateful and honored to have Dr. Lorman here with us today on daily influence, Dr. Lorman, welcome.
- 2:01[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you very much for inviting me.
- 2:05[SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Lauren, can you share a bit about your background and what led you from being a chemist and researcher to becoming a global advocate for science diplomacy and human rights?
- 2:17[SPEAKER_02]: I believe that science is a very powerful subject.
- 2:24[SPEAKER_02]: Science can prolong life, but science suddenly can cut life short.
- 2:31[SPEAKER_02]: You cannot develop a weapon of mass destruction without scientists.
- 2:39[SPEAKER_02]: Therefore, I believe that scientists have the obligation to use their science for peace.
- 2:48[SPEAKER_02]: In addition, in a lot of country, scientists has a very high status
- 3:01[SPEAKER_02]: Science is international, it doesn't see border, not language, not religion, not culture, not in nuances, it's just science.
- 3:15[SPEAKER_02]: And a chemist in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, can communicate to a chemist in Bethlehem and the West Bank without any language involved in that and they will understand each other.
- 3:32[SPEAKER_02]: Therefore, science diplomacy can succeed where other diplomacy's failure.
- 3:39[SPEAKER_02]: And this is why I came up with the idea of the Malta conferences.
- 3:45[SPEAKER_02]: It's a platform that let them stop demonizing their unknown other, and we bring them together on the one roof with several Nobel laureates for five days to give them a platform that they can see what you night them instead of what separates them.
- 4:14[SPEAKER_02]: And on this point, it's very interesting because the first time they came, they, with the earth in their eyes, and others were adult men, they came to me and said, we were like to all our lives.
- 4:33[SPEAKER_02]: We learned everywhere that is there, at least a bunch of tales that
- 4:44[SPEAKER_02]: and suddenly, for the first time in our life, we meet in Israeli, and we see that there are wonderful people, great scientists, we can learn a lot from them, we would love to collaborate with them, why we're all the lies that we will talk.
- 5:06[SPEAKER_02]: So I said, now you can go and spread what you saw with your own eyes.
- 5:12[SPEAKER_02]: And then we give them the platform to develop collaboration because the issues that we work on, what, for example, the aqueducts under ground, they don't know where the British put lines on the map.
- 5:31[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, this is one country, this is a data country.
- 5:35[SPEAKER_02]: The aqueducts spread through a lot of countries.
- 5:42[SPEAKER_02]: the country's most collaborative energy must collaborate even the air pollution if one country will clean their pollution.
- 5:56[SPEAKER_02]: One wind will bring it to another country.
- 6:00[SPEAKER_02]: It will bring the pollution for another country.
- 6:04[SPEAKER_02]: So all those things need collaboration and this is what we give
- 6:12[SPEAKER_02]: And it's recalling the Malta Conference's foundation because the first conference was held in Malta.
- 6:22[SPEAKER_02]: And the reason that Malta was selected for the first conference, it's because it was 2003.
- 6:32[SPEAKER_02]: We started working on that after September 11.
- 6:40[SPEAKER_02]: It was the height of the antifada, where suicide bombing was all over the grass towards kafers, buses everywhere, and in the middle of all that, we were bringing these people together.
- 7:09[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's imagination, but I thought how to get to.
- 7:14[SPEAKER_02]: You cannot drive to an island, and to fly to Malta in 2003 was quite complicated, because very few countries had direct flight to Malta, and my calculation was that it takes you a whole day to get to Malta,
- 7:39[SPEAKER_02]: So it will not be worse for terrorists to waste a whole day to go to Malta to kill a lot of Muslim's and few Israelis.
- 7:52[SPEAKER_02]: So this was the why Malta was selected for the first conference in the second.
- 8:00[SPEAKER_02]: The another advantage was that by that stage Malta was not part of the EU.
- 8:07[SPEAKER_02]: So we didn't need a single visa for everybody and everybody got the visa upon landing and we didn't have any visa properly.
- 8:20[SPEAKER_02]: But after that, Malta joined the EU and the visa problem became even harder than the fundraising.
- 8:33[SPEAKER_02]: because we have to raise all the money by ourselves.
- 8:38[SPEAKER_02]: We are all volunteers, a joically scientist, a majority professor or professor of the marriages.
- 8:50[SPEAKER_02]: So we don't have businesses that can support it highly, so we won't catch a volunteer or the money that we raise.
- 8:58[SPEAKER_02]: 100% goes towards
- 9:01[SPEAKER_02]: the conference because we have to pay for everybody all the expenses and we don't have a paid employee and the point is that at the end of five days like that it's really heartbreaking to see how the people
- 9:24[SPEAKER_02]: Love is true.
- 9:25[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a family reunion coming to a man, people hugging, people chasing each other.
- 9:34[SPEAKER_02]: That's a matter of who, from where they are, people crying to say goodbye and you think to yourself, this is of people wanting to live.
- 9:47[SPEAKER_02]: Why can we not spread it?
- 9:51[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, my book, it's a memoir, I don't know if you can see it till in the video, because I'm small there, you are being, it's human rights and peace, a personal Odyssey.
- 10:06[SPEAKER_02]: a good part is on Malta.
- 10:09[SPEAKER_02]: It starts by growing up in a developed country and what the values that were instilled in me that brought me to work for human rights, this my own life in the Soviet Union.
- 10:23[SPEAKER_02]: to bring dissidents out or release from jail or avoid execution in different countries.
- 10:35[SPEAKER_02]: So it starts by going up and then it goes into my work on human rights.
- 10:42[SPEAKER_02]: I worked on human rights in many countries,
- 10:48[SPEAKER_02]: I got a mala peru, but the Soviet Union was the biggest challenge.
- 10:57[SPEAKER_02]: after the China, after the Ottoman Square became a bigger challenge even, and then it it described all my work on human rights and the positive things about that is going to an American chemical society meeting and see that people that were released because of
- 11:26[SPEAKER_02]: are now coming as American chemists to an American chemical society meeting.
- 11:35[SPEAKER_02]: Because I used to go with a group of scientists because they needed the cover.
- 11:41[SPEAKER_02]: In the day I was a scientist, and after midnight I would leave, but at the dinner time, I would identify somebody that looked to me brave, usually a woman.
- 11:57[SPEAKER_02]: And I would say, if I'm not here to more morning, just call the American embassy, and I would go and ask, are they meeting with the dissidents that were waiting there, and we were collecting many more to look at the morning, I gave a seminar and a dark ethics, I distributed scientific material, I got back the resume,
- 12:27[SPEAKER_02]: their behalf.
- 12:28[SPEAKER_02]: So I took a crash course of fear, Russians, so I wouldn't need the KGP translator because everybody was KGP.
- 12:40[SPEAKER_02]: So I could go by myself and do all that.
- 12:47[SPEAKER_02]: Then
- 12:51[SPEAKER_02]: The concentration moved to the Middle East and to the Malta Conferences, even now I'm in contact with all the participants because the way we are supposed to have a Malta, the 111 in May in Azerbaijan.
- 13:16[SPEAKER_02]: And Azerbaijan was just attacked by missiles.
- 13:20[SPEAKER_02]: He most of the countries that participate are under attack and I hope that we will be able to have the concerns because what the people tell me it's now more important than ever in, by the way, all the proceeds of my book are going towards Malta to continue it.
- 13:48[SPEAKER_02]: This is the story and while you are standing on one leg, somebody came and asked, well, can you teach me all the Torah, why I stand on one leg and you answer to him in Aramaic, called the Sani al-Lihal, Tashal Khavahra, every single eight been done to you, don't do to your friend.
- 14:15[SPEAKER_02]: And the rest go and study.
- 14:17[SPEAKER_02]: So I gave you a while you stand on one leg.
- 14:22[SPEAKER_02]: There is something like this summary.
- 14:27[SPEAKER_02]: The book has a chapter title for mission impossible to mission possible.
- 14:33[SPEAKER_02]: is the visa issue.
- 14:36[SPEAKER_02]: What it takes to be able to get a visa and there are stories that sound like double or seven because few times it's really walk off out to be able to get the visa for the whole group and all that is described in the book.
- 14:59[SPEAKER_01]: That's beautiful.
- 15:00[SPEAKER_01]: You've taken your scientific expertise far beyond the laboratory.
- 15:05[SPEAKER_01]: Collect.
- 15:06[SPEAKER_01]: In our I&T series, we emphasize that responsible influence begins with the individual.
- 15:12[SPEAKER_01]: The courage to act even when it's difficult.
- 15:15[SPEAKER_01]: What internal conviction or guiding principles have driven you to stand up for human rights and peace often in high-risk situations?
- 15:25[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's the values that were instilled in me growing up in Israel that was developing country.
- 15:35[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't have toys, we didn't have loads,
- 15:42[SPEAKER_02]: we had only optimism and desire to help each other and have a country that can live with peace, in peace with its neighbors.
- 15:57[SPEAKER_02]: For example, for my six births, they, my father put an envelope in my shoes, so when I got up in the morning, I found it.
- 16:09[SPEAKER_02]: And there was a letter, and the letter said, I hope you will go up to be loyal to your country, to your nation, and to your family, pay attention to the order.
- 16:23[SPEAKER_02]: The family was the last one.
- 16:26[SPEAKER_02]: And then he said, I'm giving you this amount of money for your bears.
- 16:31[SPEAKER_02]: There, and you will divide it into three.
- 16:35[SPEAKER_02]: One part you will give,
- 16:37[SPEAKER_02]: to help the children from the Holocaust that came and don't have parents, and you will help them by giving oneself the money.
- 16:51[SPEAKER_02]: The other side, you will give to the National Fund,
- 16:55[SPEAKER_02]: for plenty of trees, it makes the country green, and one field you can do what you want.
- 17:03[SPEAKER_02]: And this is by the age of six.
- 17:05[SPEAKER_02]: So when you go up and they're these values, you know that you have to make the plant a better place than you found it when you arrived here.
- 17:17[SPEAKER_02]: And then we always, as children in Somel,
- 17:23[SPEAKER_02]: volunteer to go to work in the fields of keyboards, living in tents, not for money, and not for peeps that just rain to help.
- 17:37[SPEAKER_02]: This were the values that we grew up with.
- 17:42[SPEAKER_02]: They were graduated from high school and then boys and girls with low discriminations.
- 17:53[SPEAKER_02]: And then you have to learn to live with everybody around you and you have for boys and three years for the girls, it's two years to devote these two years to the betterment of your culture.
- 18:10[SPEAKER_02]: So when you go up like that, you can't about everybody that is suckling somewhere, and you want to change the world, one of the dissidents wrote to me, they usually have it in front of me, not to me, nominated me for the honorary sacrifice of your rights award.
- 18:36[SPEAKER_02]: And I got it, but he wrote there,
- 18:39[SPEAKER_02]: I always lose puzzle to what makes a woman living in peace and having everything risk her life for somebody that she doesn't even know.
- 18:57[SPEAKER_02]: and that he is languishing in the other side of the globe in some labor work in Siberia.
- 19:06[SPEAKER_02]: And I came to the conclusion that these two people have the same kind of conviction.
- 19:15[SPEAKER_02]: That a person in how labor is there because he believed in his values and his American angel,
- 19:27[SPEAKER_02]: believes that she should help a person like that.
- 19:32[SPEAKER_02]: And they made science, boss, you mean in you.
- 19:39[SPEAKER_02]: And this is what you go about the little letter.
- 19:43[SPEAKER_02]: And this is what it was.
- 19:46[SPEAKER_01]: That's a beautiful Dr. Lerman.
- 19:48[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for sharing that.
- 19:50[SPEAKER_01]: Can you tell us about a moment, perhaps in your human rights work or through the multiple conferences, when you clearly felt you made a positive impact on someone's life?
- 20:00[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God, oh, my human rights.
- 20:03[SPEAKER_02]: I made the impact on a lot of people live because people that we are in the holiday
- 20:14[SPEAKER_02]: will suffer because they were fired from their job just because they wanted to immigrate and they were fired.
- 20:25[SPEAKER_02]: They did not have any rights, they could not have any scientific material and they were called parasites because they don't work.
- 20:34[SPEAKER_02]: And to see all these people in the U.S. and coming to an American Chemical Society meeting, it's a dream come true, because when you see them and their misery in the Soviet Union,
- 20:53[SPEAKER_02]: And then you see them happy secrets and in my book, there are a lot of stories, funny stories about people how they arrived, suddenly to the U.S. and will send directly to me.
- 21:08[SPEAKER_02]: I was one in a current friend, 16 years.
- 21:11[SPEAKER_02]: American, Kovacos, Society Conference in Miami, and they were somebody gave them money and send them directly to me, but I did look low that they were released even.
- 21:25[SPEAKER_02]: And I get a call in my room, and they say, this is Vladimir and Josef, I said, oh great!
- 21:37[SPEAKER_02]: I said, where are you?
- 21:39[SPEAKER_02]: I said, here, I said, what do you mean here in Moscow?
- 21:42[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, here, I said, so where here, here, I said, are you in the states?
- 21:50[SPEAKER_02]: We are here.
- 21:50[SPEAKER_02]: I said, are you in the long, we are here?
- 21:54[SPEAKER_02]: I said, here, give me more information.
- 21:58[SPEAKER_02]: Where is here?
- 21:59[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the lobby of your hotel.
- 22:07[SPEAKER_02]: And another human rights group, when they arrive, said that they are actually to me.
- 22:15[SPEAKER_02]: I said, do you have where to stay, do you have nothing to make a long story short?
- 22:21[SPEAKER_02]: I called immediately the committee, I turned on scientific freedom and human rights.
- 22:27[SPEAKER_02]: In the care of the board of the American Chemical Society, and I said help, I need the home, I need help them.
- 22:36[SPEAKER_02]: So we looked at the lift of the hotel and we saw that there is a hotel with room and kitchen, and so we reserved that for them, and the American Chemical Society was last enough ready to pay.
- 22:54[SPEAKER_02]: And then the board board, then the bears, so they could enter everything.
- 23:02[SPEAKER_02]: and we went with them to the home and one of our community went to the grocery store.
- 23:09[SPEAKER_02]: We got a lot of food and said, this is for breakfast, this is for lunch.
- 23:15[SPEAKER_02]: And now I said, I'm going to tell you where you are eating dinner.
- 23:18[SPEAKER_02]: You see, this is the program.
- 23:21[SPEAKER_02]: Every day look, every day, and none of the vision has a big, fancy reception with a lot of food.
- 23:28[SPEAKER_02]: So, every day you will belong to another division.
- 23:33[SPEAKER_02]: You will be organic chemistry there.
- 23:35[SPEAKER_02]: You know, organic chemistry, that by your chemistry, then you will be education, you every day you will be another one.
- 23:43[SPEAKER_02]: And this is where you have your demons.
- 23:46[SPEAKER_02]: So, they were very happy and then they said, but to be would like to go to their career center,
- 23:58[SPEAKER_02]: We are arriving there, they tell me they cannot go in because it says no, none member.
- 24:07[SPEAKER_02]: I said, where does it say?
- 24:09[SPEAKER_02]: It's not on the bed.
- 24:10[SPEAKER_02]: It took the bench out of the plastic, it raised the word, none put the back.
- 24:15[SPEAKER_02]: I said, I don't see it.
- 24:17[SPEAKER_02]: I see only members and the person there said, okay, it's our fire.
- 24:23[SPEAKER_02]: I know that without doing with you was not helped me let them in.
- 24:27[SPEAKER_02]: And this is how they got the job and the next conference they were already walking chemists.
- 24:34[SPEAKER_02]: It was a much longer procedure and they both told me don't think that every meeting you will bring us some dishes.
- 24:46[SPEAKER_01]: What a great story, you know, your work brings people together across deep divides.
- 24:53[SPEAKER_01]: The multi-conference foundation brings scientists from across the Middle East together despite political and cultural conflict.
- 25:02[SPEAKER_01]: What if you learned about building trust and collaboration and environments where distrust and intolerance have existed for decades?
- 25:15[SPEAKER_02]: it's not a meeting for one day.
- 25:18[SPEAKER_02]: Therefore, it's five days.
- 25:22[SPEAKER_02]: It takes time to build a class.
- 25:25[SPEAKER_02]: And five days when the people out 24 hours together, everybody in the same hotel, everybody eats all the meals together, the Nobel laureates are not staying in another hotel where
- 25:42[SPEAKER_02]: even the graduates to that.
- 25:43[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody is together.
- 25:45[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody can talk to everybody during the meals.
- 25:49[SPEAKER_02]: Then we have social events that are as important as their scientific events and it's the same as the reaction of the artist.
- 25:59[SPEAKER_02]: Those are wonderful people.
- 26:01[SPEAKER_02]: Why are we enemies that we want to
- 26:06[SPEAKER_02]: So by now because we already had 10 of theirs and usually we make sure that half of the people of people that participated, the other half is new.
- 26:19[SPEAKER_02]: So they see immediately the people from their own countries, arguing and kissing because the people that know each other are so happy to see each other.
- 26:30[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a fact that we have a documentary or not.
- 26:32[SPEAKER_02]: It should have
- 26:34[SPEAKER_02]: It's 15 minutes long, but you can see the people there and it's just, you know, we have one rule, no accompanying members.
- 26:48[SPEAKER_02]: So nobody's interrupted by his being espoused or a boyfriend or a girlfriend, no accompanying members.
- 26:57[SPEAKER_02]: In this lecture, this book, you'll be coming immediately like one family.
- 27:03[SPEAKER_02]: And so I know very well, all the cultures around and all the nuances and everything is taken into account.
- 27:19[SPEAKER_02]: to have everybody equal, no rich and poor, or smart, or stupid, great scientists, not great.
- 27:28[SPEAKER_02]: Therefore, the planetary lectures of being given only by Nobel laureates.
- 27:35[SPEAKER_02]: So it will not be that one country has great scientists to give Nobel laureates an electron that
- 27:43[SPEAKER_02]: So you have to think on all this small sinks, and this is why the Malta is still of the 23 years, the only platform in the world that manages to bring the scientists from all the countries in the Middle East and in the last few months.
- 28:06[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be almost 10 years that they participate too.
- 28:10[SPEAKER_02]: It's Morocco and Pakistan.
- 28:13[SPEAKER_02]: They are Muslim countries, but they are not in the Middle East.
- 28:18[SPEAKER_02]: But they are still participate.
- 28:20[SPEAKER_02]: Pakistan said it's a good model to be between Indian Pakistan.
- 28:26[SPEAKER_02]: We would like to participate.
- 28:28[SPEAKER_02]: So this is why they participate
- 28:35[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for sharing that, you know, you've also transformed education in a remarkable way.
- 28:40[SPEAKER_01]: You developed innovative methods of teaching science through our music drama, dance, and rap, particularly impacting under-privileged students.
- 28:53[SPEAKER_01]: How does creativity unlock human potential and what does that teach us about influence and leadership and education?
- 29:00[SPEAKER_02]: So, you see education, I always compare it to the fashion design.
- 29:07[SPEAKER_02]: Education is one thing fits all.
- 29:11[SPEAKER_02]: So, it's the fashion design.
- 29:13[SPEAKER_02]: When the case was miniscale, everybody wore miniscales.
- 29:19[SPEAKER_02]: for few it was beautiful, for few it was not so beautiful.
- 29:24[SPEAKER_02]: The same is told with education.
- 29:26[SPEAKER_02]: It was for this goal.
- 29:29[SPEAKER_02]: Usually for the group, I'll talk about science that will become scientists as a matter of how you teach them.
- 29:36[SPEAKER_02]: They will become scientists.
- 29:37[SPEAKER_02]: They know it for me very young age.
- 29:40[SPEAKER_02]: But we live now in a scientific technological society, we cannot live all dressed behind and start forming to class society that was not divided by royalty, but by knowledge of science and technology.
- 29:57[SPEAKER_02]: So we must find ways to include everybody.
- 30:03[SPEAKER_02]: Now in my book I described how I came to the idea to develop that,
- 30:08[SPEAKER_02]: I learned this method of teaching for my students because I realized that coming to a school that was art and communication, open admission, hypercentred minority, I cannot teach like a Cornell.
- 30:30[SPEAKER_02]: So I knew that I have to learn from them how to learn,
- 30:35[SPEAKER_02]: And they showed me how, for example, to explain the reaction, once the then student choreographed the dance and the student understood it better.
- 30:50[SPEAKER_02]: So I learned from the student,
- 30:54[SPEAKER_02]: how to teach and how to assess the students.
- 30:57[SPEAKER_02]: And they came up where they CNN did, I worked with homeless kids.
- 31:05[SPEAKER_02]: There are many of them went on to college and majored in science and two events went on for PhD of biochemistry.
- 31:17[SPEAKER_02]: So the point is, this student learned through dance,
- 31:22[SPEAKER_02]: And one of my students was their dance student, and a parent had their dance studio.
- 31:29[SPEAKER_02]: So I was the head of their science institute, so I would take my faculty at night.
- 31:36[SPEAKER_02]: We would go to the dance student,
- 31:38[SPEAKER_02]: studio we would bring food, if neither colds we would bring colds, and on the flow of the dance studio we learned you can see pictures with the send my book, the picture, where everybody sit with a periodic table on the flow, the rest in their lea darts, and
- 31:59[SPEAKER_02]: learning so then CNN came and did the problem and then that they showed it five times around the world then and be see came and did that horrific program and then W.G.N.
- 32:16[SPEAKER_02]: because nobody could believe that it can be and I even took a group of 20 of these students
- 32:27[SPEAKER_02]: golden conference with the only 120 scientists for more over the world, and I took this goal because usually this conference, the science of visualization, was in Oxford, and this time it was in Mount Holyoke in there.
- 32:48[SPEAKER_02]: and Massachusetts.
- 32:50[SPEAKER_02]: So I bought 20 students and they showed how they visualized concept of science through dance and I have on a video of this audience that were all distinguished scientists, claiming like crazy, bravo, bravo, bravo.
- 33:11[SPEAKER_02]: And they theater students,
- 33:14[SPEAKER_02]: They play on the chemical born, but they call it the bond fadil.
- 33:23[SPEAKER_02]: They did it everything like the grown fadil, but they call it the bond fadil.
- 33:28[SPEAKER_02]: They explain the chemical born.
- 33:31[SPEAKER_02]: And another group of theater did love story between sodium and chlorine.
- 33:37[SPEAKER_02]: followed exactly Romeo and Juliet of Shakespeare and showed how, because it ended up has to end in tragedy all the form, the bond, and the form table salt, sodium chloride, and then the water came and broke the blood.
- 33:59[SPEAKER_02]: And then they stood all of them with plaques and it says, learn to take every tragedy with
- 34:06[SPEAKER_02]: and the capital was sold.
- 34:10[SPEAKER_02]: So there are beautiful and music students, oh, Tristan, I have plenty of ozone, exactly like I have plenty of nothing.
- 34:20[SPEAKER_02]: You hold it all, I have plenty of ozone there.
- 34:25[SPEAKER_02]: It's all on our YouTube, it's a matter of fact.
- 34:28[SPEAKER_02]: To learn and institute for the advancement of science,
- 34:35[SPEAKER_02]: I think that the website is learned in Institute.org, then you can see all these videos, hundreds of them.
- 34:46[SPEAKER_02]: But links to those in the show notes.
- 34:48[SPEAKER_02]: OK, and the Malta has a website that is Malta conferences foundation.
- 34:55[SPEAKER_02]: All one word, conference, there is an S there.
- 35:00[SPEAKER_02]: All one word.org.
- 35:03[SPEAKER_02]: in my own website that will lead you to all that.
- 35:08[SPEAKER_02]: This is South alone in dot com.
- 35:12[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
- 35:12[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Dr. Learning, as you reflect on your own journey, if you could go back and offer advice to your younger self, what would you share and how might that guidance help those who are early in their journey today, especially those that wanna make a global difference?
- 35:33[SPEAKER_02]: Remember that you can always find the time if you want to help the world.
- 35:43[SPEAKER_02]: The world needs help, our world is thick and we need to help and everybody can help if they want.
- 35:51[SPEAKER_02]: I came to the state.
- 35:53[SPEAKER_02]: I was a single mum with a child.
- 35:55[SPEAKER_02]: I had a child in through all my degrees, Bachelor Master PhD, because I got married very young.
- 36:04[SPEAKER_02]: And,
- 36:05[SPEAKER_02]: I did all that, if I could do it, everybody can do it, especially very tough condition I came, I did not have any relatives, I did not know anybody I did not have money, I was on a stipend of a postdoc, but I immediately joined
- 36:25[SPEAKER_02]: different groups that I could make a change and then I realize by myself, I want to make sure that science is accessible to everybody, I won't pay this to like that.
- 36:39[SPEAKER_02]: is time-successable to all.
- 36:42[SPEAKER_02]: And I really developed this message that was extremely successful around the world with under-proluched students.
- 36:53[SPEAKER_02]: And okay, the human rights for academia really endangered myself because everything I did.
- 37:01[SPEAKER_02]: Meeting with them was illegal distributing scientific material was illegal giving seminars illegal
- 37:11[SPEAKER_02]: So, maybe not everybody wants to visit their life.
- 37:17[SPEAKER_02]: So, these are, but there are other ways to help human rights.
- 37:22[SPEAKER_02]: There are a lot of groups of human rights, sending letters, being, and calling that with people, everyone that they was in prison or in exile said that knowing that there are people that walk on their behalf, kept them going.
- 37:39[SPEAKER_02]: So everybody can do something and then the idea to make a science diplomacy a bridge to peace and the Middle East came as a result of all the others where do we need now some help?
- 37:57[SPEAKER_02]: Nature magazine that is the most prestigious scientific magazine in the world, it's in England.
- 38:09[SPEAKER_02]: and they have every day, some of the few articles, but in the middle, they have court of the day, and they reviewed my book.
- 38:20[SPEAKER_02]: So, in the middle court of the day one day was for my book.
- 38:24[SPEAKER_02]: In what did they take?
- 38:26[SPEAKER_02]: I played on the idea of the atom bomb.
- 38:29[SPEAKER_02]: In order to have an atom bomb, you need a critical math of your way new to start a chain of the action.
- 38:38[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, I hope I'll have a critical math of scientists to start a change reaction for peace.
- 38:47[SPEAKER_02]: And this is what the picked up is quote of the day I met real ties by book.
- 38:54[SPEAKER_01]: What a beautiful quote.
- 38:55[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Dr. Lerman, your life reminds us that influence is not confined to titles or geography.
- 39:03[SPEAKER_01]: It begins with one person choosing courage, compassion,
- 39:09[SPEAKER_01]: And daily influence, we believe responsible influence starts with the eye, the individual decision to act with integrity and purpose and your work shows that when science creates activity and humanity come together, they can build bridges where the walls once stood.
- 39:25[SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Lourne, I am so grateful for you joining us today on daily influence for all the wonderful work that you are doing in this world.
- 39:32[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for having a positive influence and so many people.
- 39:37[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you very much.
- 39:38[SPEAKER_02]: And if you want to know more, read my book.
- 39:41[SPEAKER_02]: It just was published in paper back.
- 39:44[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not as expensive as it was before.
- 39:49[SPEAKER_01]: We'll put links to all the websites.
- 39:52[SPEAKER_01]: So people can get in touch with you and also to your book in the show notes.
- 39:56[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for joining us.
- 39:58[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
- 39:59[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.
- 40:00[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.
- 40:01[SPEAKER_01]: And thank you for tuning in to daily influence.
- 40:04[SPEAKER_01]: I hope today's conversation brought you inside an inspiration.
- 40:08[SPEAKER_01]: If it's spoke to you, share it with someone who could use a little positivity today.
- 40:12[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, small actions create big impact.
- 40:15[SPEAKER_01]: Keep showing up, leading, and growing one day to time.
- 40:18[SPEAKER_01]: Until next time, stay inspired and keep having a positive, responsible influence.
- 40:23[SPEAKER_01]: Bye-bye.