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Muppet Treasure Scriptland - Erika Ishii & Siobhan Thompson · Muppet Fan Podcasts with ToughPigs.com

• 0:09
  Well, shiver my Timbers and shiver my soul, because on May
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  12th we're getting another live Muppet script reading, this time
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  hitting the seven seas as they take on Muppet Treasure Island.
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  As always, tough figures on board to present the official
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  Companion podcast, which I can luckily do on land.
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  Because this is true, I get awful seasickness.
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  Joining me, as always as the show's director and producer and
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  a good friend to us, a tough because Matt Wilkie.
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  Hi, Matt. Yo ho ho.
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  I don't know. I wasn't expecting that and they
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  threw me. Well, expecting unexpected
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  today. My first guest is an actor,
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  voice actor, comedian and improviser who's appeared in
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  shows like Dropouts, Make Some Noise and Game Changer, as well
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  as games like The Last of Us 2 and Halo Infinite.
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  They were also apparently an episode Full House.
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  Is that true? Yes, yes, a very long time ago.
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  Very long time ago. They've played Rizzo in the last
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  two live script readings. So they're back again.
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  They put the rat in Pirate. It's Erica Ishii.
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  Hi, Erica. Hello, happy to be.
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  Here, I'm so excited to have you here.
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  My second guest is an actor, comedian and writer who's
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  appealing shows like one of my personal favorites, Adam Ruins
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  Everything, as well as dropouts Game Changer, Dimension 20.
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  And I'm Actually she played Lady Holiday in the live script
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  reading of The Great Muppet Caper, and she returns to the
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  stage to play Jim Hawkins in Muppet Treasure Script Land
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  Hawkins One. Sang Please, Sir, please Sir.
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  Hawkins once sang. There's got to be something
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  better. But there's no one better than
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  Siobhan Thompson. Hi, Siobhan.
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  There's got to be something better.
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  Wonderful. Stop being better.
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  I'm. Very excited.
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  My. Whole career has been leading up
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  to this. I was going to say I'm excited
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  to have you both here and, and well, I mean, let's just jump
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  straight in first. We'll start with you, Matt,
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  you've known you were going to do this for a very long time.
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  I remember talking to you about this particular script reading
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  when you were organizing Caper. How's it been setting this one
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  up? What's been the challenges and
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  the differences? Well, you know, every everyone
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  has its own challenges and differences.
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  The great thing about Muppet Treasure Island, though, is that
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  it feels very, very much like a musical.
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  I think more than any of the other ones, especially like when
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  you're watching it, like the sets are a little flatter, but
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  it feels like it's a stage production.
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  So this one I feel is going to translate really, really well.
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  And so we're really excited. We've got a great cast.
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  In addition to to these two lovely's here, we also have Mr.
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  Brennan, Lee Mulligan that everyone is very about that he's
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  he's he's going full circle in his own career as well, where
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  he's playing Long John Silver with his infamous Tim Curry
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  impression. And that was kind of the goal
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  when we first started planning this one.
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  I was like, we need Brent, we need Brent and we got him and
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  then we've also got like so many wonderful, wonderful people.
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  Siobhan told me back when we did Muppet Keeper how much she loves
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  singing in Palsetto and I said. Have we got the role for you?
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  I, I went to church schools all through school because much like
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  the Australian school system, that's just what schools are in
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  England. And so when you're, I was a big
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  time choir kid, but in England that means singing a lot of
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  hymns and madrigals. And it's such a specific type of
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  singing that is completely useless in my day-to-day.
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  But is also the kid who played Jim Hawkins was like a a
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  chorister. And so that's that's the type of
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  singing I have been trained to do.
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  Soprano you you it's. Like AI can sing like a boy
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  soprano, Yes. Well, if I remember didn't,
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  what's his name? Kevin Bishop.
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  Is that it? Yes.
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  Yeah, Kevin Bishop. If I remember, he recorded temp
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  tracks and then his voice broke and he couldn't sing like that
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  anymore. So I think his songs in the film
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  are his temp tracks before his voice broke.
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  It that happened so often. We did Oliver as as one of the
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  big musicals in in school and the kid playing Oliver, his
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  voice started breaking the week of performances and he had to
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  just be like, there's nothing you can do.
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  He he was he had such a beautiful, angelic voice and
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  then he was just like chugging ginger tea backstage.
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  But there's you can't. You can't unbreak a voice once
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  it's broken. No, no, I have.
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  Fun, fun lore about me is that my middle school production of
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  Oliver I played, I actually played the violin for it, and
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  they sort of made a like a weird duet between me and Fagin.
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  So for reviewing the situation, I did like a klezmer solo with,
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  oh, that's a conversation. And it actually absolutely
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  ripped. But yeah.
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  That's great. They should do that.
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  It it's great they should do that in more productions, but
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  they had to like they sort of like double cast, you know,
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  probably to eventual, you know, to guard against the eventuality
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  of a voice breaking. One of the one of the Olivers
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  was played by AJ Holmes of Star Kid fame.
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  Oh amazing. Yeah.
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  We so we've been in sort of comedy circles forever.
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  Fun fact. So I was in my school
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  production. We did High School Musical.
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  Oh wow. Which was great fun.
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  And and the kid who was playing Troy, his voice broke again that
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  week. And there's a line in breaking
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  free where he really just has to like belt out.
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  We're breaking free like that. And his voice broke during that
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  line. Now that happened to be the one
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  they filmed and so I have that on DVD.
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  Oh no. And you can just see me and the
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  girl playing my girlfriend on stage just like, grab each
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  other, like, don't laugh, don't laugh, don't laugh, don't laugh.
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  So just I, I get it. I get it.
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  And I'm hoping Siobhan, your voice doesn't break that way.
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  I'm so too. We we had a girl playing Artful
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  Dodger. So I I don't know why they, but
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  I mean also the kid, but Bertie van der Beek is his name that
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  was playing Oliver. He was excellent.
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  He was great at it. He.
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  Just thought an English name. Got really unlucky.
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  Yeah, sounds. So made-up it sounds.
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  So made. Up.
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  It really does. It really does.
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  And then his sister, who was in my year, was Theodora van der
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  Beek. Of course.
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  Yes, yeah, you're making these up.
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  Well, Erica, how familiar with you with The Muppets growing up
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  because like especially you've played Brazzo now a couple of
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  times and you can really channel that essence.
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  So I've got to assume you've been watching Brazzo since you a
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  little. Yes, yes.
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  Muppets is such a cornerstone of my childhood for sure.
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  You know, I, I grew up, I was, you know, plopped in front of
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  the TV to watch Sesame Street and, you know, all this sort of
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  surrounding PBS of it all. I loved The Muppets.
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  And so Muppet Muppet Christmas Carol definitely happened every
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  year, especially actually in high school.
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  And Muppet Treasure Island was huge for me for two reasons #1
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  because I loved pirates. I loved pirates growing up.
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  We had my parents, actually. My dad built a little pirate
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  ship in the backyard out of scrap wood for my.
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  That's amazing. Yeah, for my. 4th birthday, I
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  had Peter Pan birthday and like we're in LA so we would hire
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  like our out of work actor, my parents out of work actor
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  friends to be like, like my gymnastics coach played Peter
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  Pan and you know, he ended up loving it so much that he ended
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  up being the Peter Pan in Fantasmic.
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  And you know, so like it, like my childhood, the line between
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  fantasy and and, you know, reality was very, very blurry
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  indeed, but. It's honestly this make this
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  unlocks a lot of puzzles I have about you right?
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  It kind of. Makes a lot of sense, yeah.
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  Yeah. And then also, you know, we, we
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  got a computer fairly late as a family when I was in 7th grade.
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  And like, there were a handful of games like cd-roms we had for
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  it. And one of them was the Muppet
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  Treasure Island CD-ROM game. And it was so much fun for me.
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  It's so silly. There's like a tomato throwing
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  game. There's you have to like find
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  different rocks with the like. And our computer was very, very
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  slow and we didn't, we did not have a good computer.
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  So like some hand me down. And so it was always like a
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  store. My sisters and I would sit in
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  front of the computer and just sort of like press a thing and
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  wait and like hope that it would move on to the next one because
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  you never knew, especially in those sort of like FMV, you
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  know, CD-ROM game eras. So I like grew, like I have so
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  much of that movie and and the characters and the plot all just
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  really in there committed to memory.
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  Yeah, I am I I was just turned looking there.
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  I actually found I have the CD-ROM game as well and I found
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  it about 3 weeks ago and I used to speedrun that on a Saturday
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  morning. Like my family would get up and,
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  or like they'd go to like, you know, my brother played soccer
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  or whatever it was and I would speedrun Muppet Treasure Island,
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  the CD-ROM game. I think I got that down to about
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  an hour and 20 minutes. I used to be able to speedrun
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  that. Oh damn.
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  Which you, you listen to it and you go, OK, well there in 20
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  minutes. But keep in mind I think it's
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  designed to last about 3 hours. Yeah, especially if your
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  computer is very slow. Yes, which ours was.
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  But I'm very, I'm excited that you also played that cause yeah,
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  not a lot of people have Siobhan.
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  You know, obviously growing up in England you maybe didn't
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  have. The Muppets and especially in
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  the the West, we definitely had The Muppets cause first of all,
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  all of this stuff is shot in in English.
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  True, yeah. Yeah, but yeah, Muppet Christmas
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  Carol, me and my sister are. I caught.
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  We watch it every year. We're quoting the whole thing.
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  We're singing all of the songs. It's annoying to be around.
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  And Muppet Treasure Island also just wonderful.
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  And then growing up in the West Country, Treasure Island itself
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  is like a big W country story. You know, it's all like Devon
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  and Cornwall and Bristol. And the pirate accent is based
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  on the Bristol accent, which is where basically where I'm from.
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  It's where I went to university and so it feels very homey to
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  me. It feels like I'm I'm going home
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  a little bit. Matt, can you talk about casting
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  Shivan and Erica? Yeah, it's it's just a fortune
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  upon fortune. It's just, it's just wonderful
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  to to have both of them. Yeah, it's Erica is when we when
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  we were going to New York for the Muppet Stake script Hatton,
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  I was talking to our our mutual friend Sax and we were talking
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  about some casting and things that I had to do out there.
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  And I didn't have a lot of people in New York.
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  And Sax was like, well, by chance Erica is going to be
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  there too for my birthday. And if you can get Erica in
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  there. I was like, as soon as he said
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  it, I was like, no, Erica needs to play Rizzo.
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  That's just that's, that's the casting forever.
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  Please. So, so, so we, we we got to
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  talking. We realized that I realized that
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  we had filmed a like a short video a long time ago for Loot
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  Crate together when that was the whole thing that you that was
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  around and and and so we got to reconnect and when she got on
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  stage, it was just like the slam dunk, like there's nobody else
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  that can do Rizzo. Now, yeah, Erica does have big
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  Rizzo energy. Absolutely always Jelly beans.
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  Jelly beans in their pocket at all time.
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  Like Julie, I will. I will be snacking.
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  I will be snacking When? Yeah, for.
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  For Christmas, Carol, Matt sent me like a list of like, oh,
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  these are different, you know, props that you may want to get
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  these, like foods. And I was like, I'm already on
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  it. I already have.
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  I've already rewatched and made a list of all of the foods that
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  I needed. Came prepared my own baguettes,
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  my own Jelly beans, little apple beans, bags.
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  Yeah, apples, Apples. Yeah, I I love Rizzo so much.
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  He's just such a little guy. And I guess you know my.
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  It's so fun to play a coward, yeah.
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  Yeah, he's a little he's a little coward and he's fussy and
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  just absolutely 0 awareness of of anything that he could do
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  that that is wrong, but he loves it.
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  His best friend. You you have to have a coward
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  and an absolute outgoing extrovert.
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  You know, that's it's a wonderful little, you know, sort
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  of like a, you know, like an. RTD 2.
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  Or yeah, or C3 and C3PO. You know, there's like all of
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  these duos that are really, I feel like he is in the comedic
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  inheritance, you know, of, of that dynamic.
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  And it's just, it really is an honor to play Rizzo.
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  And I think the New York accent, it, it's just so easy for me.
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  You know, my parents are both New Yorkers.
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  I yeah, I cannot believe that it worked out that way.
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  Have you, have you started a prop list for this one yet,
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  Erica? No, because I've been waiting.
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  My girlfriend has never seen Muppet Treasure Island before.
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  Oh my. God, that's kind of.
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  I know, right? It's wild because you know,
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  there's just certain films that you like always watch and take
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  for granted, and then somebody who loves says they haven't and
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  you're like, I've been remiss. Yeah, it's one that I had not
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  watched for a long time. And then I, I, I also had, I had
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  a friend who had not seen Muppet Treasure Island and was like,
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  OK, great. We actually did a, a double act
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  that was Muppet Treasure Island and Priscilla Queen of the
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  Desert. And it was a, it was a absolute
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  banger of a double act that they had not seen either of these
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  movies. It's like, well, these are two
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  of my favorite movies. We have to watch them both
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  immediately. You know, that's you programming
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  movies together. Thank you.
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  And that is Siobhan. Yeah, that makes a lot of.
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  Sense yes, there we go. That's it.
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  That's my. That's two of my letterbox for.
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  Siobhan, you played Lady Holiday in Caper?
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  Yes, I'm committed to only playing humans.
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  Only playing humans. And in these and English puppet
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  readings I've noticed as well, but I.
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  Only I only know one British person so.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It it's helpful for me.
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  I'm really, yeah, I'm the diversity hire British edition.
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  I'm just trying to think if there's any Australians in any
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  of the films so that I can get a gig because I think I'm the only
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  Australian, you know, Matt, but unfortunately.
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  So I think so, yeah, maybe. No, I was going to say Jermaine
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  Clements, but that's New Zealand's so.
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  Yeah, don't confuse us. No, but Siobhan, how are you
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  finding taking on the role of Hawkins?
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  It's so fun. I mean, I feel like it's such a
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  classic. Like obviously it's a boy
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  playing it in the movie, but it does feel like a trouser roll.
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  It does feel like, you know, like Viola and 12th Night or
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  something. That's like, there's a lot of
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  jokes that are funny because it's a woman playing him.
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  Like literally at some point he's like, and I'm not a girl.
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  Great. I'm gonna have so much fun.
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  There's there's you know, I won't, I won't spoil it on Mike
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  here, but there is I added a little extra to the end of that
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  line that I think will. Amazing.
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  Give us a little extra junk on that, yeah.
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  Great. Wonderful.
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  Well, yeah, you've also got blind Pew calling.
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  Jim a little girl. Pretty Little girl.
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  Yeah. Blind Pew.
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  One of the scariest actor characters in fiction.
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  I remember seeing a non muppet version of Muppet Treasure
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  Island as a young child and remembering being like
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  absolutely terrified of blind Pew.
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  So scary because you're just like in your in, you've never
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  left. You're in.
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  You're lightly abused by the landlady and then all of a
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  sudden pirates are in your house and they're trying to kill you.
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  Great. They just need to be performed
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  by Jerry Nelson and we'll be fine.
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  Well, with Hawkins, because it's a bit more of a straight role
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  than say, Rio or any of the others.
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  How, Where are you landing on that scale of like respecting
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  the source material to like, no, I want some damn laughs and I'm
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  just going to go for it. I think actually the voice of
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  reason often gets more laughs than anybody else because the
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  crazy person isn't funny if there's not somebody reacting to
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  it. But I think, sorry, this cat's
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  fighting right behind me. I do think like me playing an
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  incredibly naive boy is as funny as I need it to be.
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  I don't need to lead into anything more than that.
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  That's very juicy for me. I'm I will play it as straight
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  as I can within those parameters.
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  And that's what makes it funny. Yeah, because Jim is, God bless
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  him, nobody is trusted, more trustful than Jim Hawkins.
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  He just absolutely accepting of everybody, immediately
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  credulous, credulous, just so excited to be included.
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  Yeah, and you know, I think it, you know, you could write a
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  whole or do a whole essay on the role of earnestness in Muppets
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  and Muppet actors. I think they, you know, Jim
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  Hawkins and and the Jim role is like one of those like very
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  straight ahead, very, very human.
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  Sort of it's the sort of Michael Caine in Christmas Carol.
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  You know where is obviously, you know, the Tim Curry and and some
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  other and other human roles are there.
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  They get to be big and goofy because they're.
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  Yeah, there's that thing of like, Jim.
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  Yeah. Michael Caine was playing like
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  he was the only human and everybody's a human.
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  And Tim Curry is playing like he's a Muppet and everybody else
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  is a Muppet. And I think it's that like,
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  there's never a moment where Michael Caine looks into the
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  camera and makes a meta joke and Tim Carey does that like 5 * a
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  scene. Yeah.
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  And that's that great interview. I'm sure you've seen it but
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  maybe people haven't seen it of him talking to his Muppet stand
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  in which they made, I think just for that interview they made a
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  Muppet stand in of Tim Curry that is so good and so funny.
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  Like the extras for this movie are top tier and it made me like
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  God they don't make extras for DVDs like this anymore.
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  Yeah, no. Kim Curry's book as well I've
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  I've read and he he really has committed to the joke that he
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  and Piggy had an affair. Yes, I've seen that interview as
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  well. He's done the interview and in
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  his book he does not let up. He just talks about an affair
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  with Miss Petey a little bit and it's like, I just, I love the
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  man. Erica, you've played against
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  multiple Gonzos as of time of recording.
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  I don't know if there's a gonzo locked in.
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  We'll move past that at the moment, but how does that
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  change? Does that change he take on the
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  role or are you just playing Rizzo?
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  For Manhattan, it since it was like Rizzo's introduction,
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  there's not as much interaction with Gonzo.
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  It's not really until until Christmas Carol that they you
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  know, you know all the background for why they decide
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  to pair up Gonzo and Rizzo and that's really when the magic
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  happened and that's honestly, you know, David Dust Mulchen as
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  Gonzo is such a revelation. It's just, he understands just
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  the mind of that weirdo so perfectly.
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  And it was. We met each other moments before
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  the curtain went up for the matinee and sort of a scene and
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  we realized, oh, we're already. Is it OK that we like, have been
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  tucked like hugging and stuff each other?
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  Are you, you know, like retroactive consent?
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  Is that OK? We're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  It's good. It's good.
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  And just immediately this report, and I mean, yeah, it
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  when I say that his gonzo elevated my Rizzo, I mean, it's
• 21:40
  just remarkable. And so, you know, it's it's I'm
• 21:44
  so sad. I know he couldn't join us for
• 21:47
  this one, but I Matt's eye for casting is candy.
• 21:54
  I agree. Thank.
• 21:56
  You thank you. It's, it's something I'm very,
• 21:58
  very proud of and I, I give major shout outs to my wife and
• 22:02
  Co producer Grace. She also helps me out a lot with
• 22:05
  casting. We, we sit down and really like
• 22:09
  look at who do, who do we know who our friends, who do we want
• 22:12
  to work with? And it's just who, who can not
• 22:17
  necessarily do impressions. We're never really looking for
• 22:20
  impressions. It's just the embodiment of
• 22:22
  those. Characters.
• 22:23
  And, and we're very fortunate that we get people like Mark
• 22:27
  Evan Jackson, who just is, is Kermit.
• 22:29
  He's up there and he's Kermit. We have Nina W, who is is Miss
• 22:34
  Piggy like there's no. Nina W is miss Piggy I I it's
• 22:38
  just just an astonishing career high performance.
• 22:42
  I feel like just just so good like better than better than any
• 22:48
  miss piggy. But the OG, you know, like
• 22:54
  really embodies the like not only can do the voice perfectly,
• 22:58
  but really embody the chaotic energy that Miss Piggy should
• 23:01
  have of I'm going to I'm going to mess things up, I'm going to
• 23:05
  break things. I have nothing can get in my
• 23:07
  way. I will kiss that frog.
• 23:10
  Yeah, I I saw like an official. I've seen a couple of official
• 23:15
  piggy things recently and I, you know, no offense, but yeah,
• 23:22
  yeah, miss West that. I feel like.
• 23:25
  Blows it out of the water. That needs to be an there's a
• 23:28
  there's a level of politeness, I think to almost all the piggies
• 23:34
  which does not vibe with the correct he is is impolite and
• 23:41
  should be at all times rude and raunchy and not really listening
• 23:46
  to anybody. Yes, yes, in her own she is like
• 23:52
  she invented manifesting. Yes, it's that's so funny.
• 23:58
  There is a core like a like, like a like a core to each
• 24:04
  Muppet. And I think that you really hit
• 24:06
  a point. Delulu is the salulu for Miss
• 24:09
  Piggy. Yeah, wow.
• 24:14
  I love it. Matt, these guys have said that
• 24:17
  you have an eye for casting. We know you like to cast
• 24:20
  yourself occasionally in some of these smaller roles.
• 24:23
  Any little hints as to who you might be playing?
• 24:27
  I am so so I am playing a role and it's more of a necessity at
• 24:33
  this point. This, this show, again, this one
• 24:37
  feels very much like a musical. There's Sailing for Adventure,
• 24:41
  for example. There's 20 singing parts in that
• 24:45
  song. There are 20 singers who are
• 24:48
  going to sing at least a few lines in that song, and so there
• 24:52
  was a lot of coordinating. I actually had like I made on
• 24:57
  paper a replica of the dynasty stage with little cards for
• 25:00
  everybody's name so I could figure out how the movements.
• 25:02
  Were amazing. It was incredibly detailed and
• 25:07
  so for myself, the way that it could work out so that we could
• 25:11
  still have dead Tom was for me to play real old Tom.
• 25:16
  So that will be my role. In the show.
• 25:19
  So I will be real old Tom and and pretty much every time you
• 25:22
  see me, I will have a skeleton with me.
• 25:24
  Great. Wonderful.
• 25:26
  Do we know who's playing Angel Marie yet?
• 25:27
  Because I'm hoping at one stage they're going to have the fruit
• 25:30
  hat and the hauler skirt and the ukulele.
• 25:33
  Oh, we're, we're, we'll, we'll have that.
• 25:35
  So, so we, we have cast Angel Maria.
• 25:39
  That's going to be Giovanni, our good friend.
• 25:41
  Wonderful. Fantastic.
• 25:42
  Yeah. Perfect casting, right?
• 25:45
  OK. Giovanni and a bald cap.
• 25:47
  Absolutely and our our Co producer Missy Steele is right
• 25:53
  now working on the big fruit hat that will go on.
• 25:57
  I love it and. That's amazing and Giovanni will
• 25:59
  commit and I'm excited to see. It.
• 26:01
  Oh, yes, everybody, Yeah. Yep, Siobhan, I have a very,
• 26:05
  very important question for you. Great, the most important
• 26:08
  question of the entire podcast. Did you know 2 raccoons can fit
• 26:12
  up? I'm so glad you understood that
• 26:16
  reference and the other two. I looked at my TikTok out.
• 26:21
  I looked at my TikTok like statistics and the top search
• 26:25
  that led to my page was did you know that two raccoons can fit
• 26:28
  up? I did figure out what it was,
• 26:31
  which was two years ago. I'd stitched somebody who had
• 26:36
  said, do you know that you can fit two raccoons up here through
• 26:38
  your butt hole because they were shooting it in bath like that.
• 26:45
  They somebody had set up a camera in like the place where I
• 26:49
  did when because I briefly worked as an archaeologist in
• 26:53
  the place where I had done the archaeological dig and was like,
• 26:58
  fun fact, this is this is where I worked as an archaeologist.
• 27:02
  So every time you see one of these videos, this is imagine me
• 27:05
  in the mud. So I somebody and I didn't
• 27:08
  figure it out. Somebody else figured it out and
• 27:10
  tagged me, but a very strange like.
• 27:17
  Why is this leading people to my page?
• 27:21
  No, I did. I did have a good laugh when I
• 27:23
  saw that video. And I was like, well, I need to
• 27:24
  ask Yvonne that question. Yeah, yeah.
• 27:26
  So it the the the Riddle has been solved.
• 27:29
  The mystery has been. And the answer to the rest of
• 27:32
  the question was just as bothersome as I thought it would
• 27:35
  be. Yes, yeah, it's it's what you
• 27:39
  worried it would be. Yeah, is what it is.
• 27:42
  Yeah. Look, as we start to wrap up
• 27:45
  what just. Like we're moving on to it's so.
• 27:50
  Confused the entire thing. You can, Erica, you personally
• 27:54
  can fit two raccoons up your butt hole.
• 27:56
  Yeah. Two quitters.
• 27:59
  I know that's for two is for quitters 3.
• 28:06
  You know Erica. Those two raccoons up her butt
• 28:08
  hole. A good start.
• 28:15
  Let's move on as we start to wrap up.
• 28:17
  I am a giant Dropout fan. You know Erica, who would be
• 28:23
  your ideal Muppet Co stars for an episode of Make Some Noise?
• 28:27
  Oh my God, like out of all Muppets.
• 28:32
  All Muppets can be can be Sesame as well if you'd like.
• 28:36
  Oh, sesame as well. I feel like.
• 28:43
  I think it might be all the chickens because I feel like
• 28:47
  they really actually take care of me in that way.
• 28:51
  They'd be like really great support.
• 28:52
  Yeah, they're generous performas.
• 28:54
  They're very generous performers.
• 28:56
  I feel like I sometimes start out very timid getting off the
• 29:03
  back line, but that they would be very good for sort of setting
• 29:07
  us up, you know, initiating and that they would definitely
• 29:13
  commit to any bit that I did. Good choice.
• 29:18
  I think it'll be the chickens, yeah.
• 29:20
  And Siobhan who? Which Muppets are you playing
• 29:22
  D&D with? Animal, but that's already what
• 29:31
  it's like playing DND with Erica so.
• 29:33
  Yeah. Yep.
• 29:35
  Who? All right, Well, who do you
• 29:36
  think could take? On.
• 29:39
  Who do you think could take on Brennan's role?
• 29:43
  You know, here's who I think could do it.
• 29:45
  I think Rolf could do it. I was gonna say.
• 29:48
  Role. You know Rolf, a jazz musician
• 29:51
  so already great at improvising, really good at knowing when to
• 29:55
  step forward and when to step back.
• 29:57
  A real good team player. I love Rolf.
• 30:00
  Yep, that's a wonderful choice. Especially since Bria has
• 30:03
  portrayed Rolf in prior. Oh amazing.
• 30:10
  I think also scooter might be good scooter.
• 30:13
  Yeah, Scooter's pretty grounded. Yeah, yeah, He would be checking
• 30:17
  in with you constantly to be like, am I doing a good job?
• 30:20
  Yeah, everybody happy. Am I doing a good job?
• 30:23
  He would be very good at keeping everybody on track though, I
• 30:27
  think that's. True.
• 30:28
  Yeah, he has big AD energy, big assistant director energy.
• 30:34
  I love it. Matt, have you been able to
• 30:36
  gaslight any of these guys yet into thinking this might be an
• 30:38
  episode of Game Changer? I've I've considered it.
• 30:42
  I've considered it. It could be, it could still
• 30:45
  could be. I genuinely rent to RAF
• 30:48
  Chestang's wedding with a little.
• 30:50
  Voice in the back of my. Head going Is this a game
• 30:53
  changer? It could be.
• 30:55
  He's. He's gathered all of us
• 30:56
  together. Yeah, it could be I.
• 30:59
  Think so. The thing is, there are a
• 31:01
  handful of people that I don't think that that that Sam will do
• 31:07
  an elaborate ruse for and then a handful of us that he certainly
• 31:11
  will not like. So Siobhan.
• 31:13
  I think he's too scared of me. Lou, I think no, I mean like you
• 31:17
  guys did, had, you know, the escape.
• 31:19
  Room. Oh yeah, he did lock us in an
• 31:20
  escape room. He did, yes.
• 31:22
  I feel like. You weren't definitely on the
• 31:24
  yes list because like, you know, like people will be like, oh,
• 31:29
  Siobhan will lose her mind. But also we did like win, you
• 31:33
  know, we'll we'll win. I think for me that they're they
• 31:38
  that he might be worried that I'd like try to break the game
• 31:43
  or the walls or in some way sort of like, you know, as the crow
• 31:49
  flies it, you know, just sort of like get to the finish, you
• 31:55
  know. And and so I don't think that
• 31:57
  Sam will ever plan anything elaborate, you know, to to fool
• 32:03
  me like because I might start hitting people or something.
• 32:08
  Or that's that's the fear I. Yes, yeah, but Cortana that you
• 32:13
  keep in your car at old time will suddenly be in your hands
• 32:16
  just. It's just broken.
• 32:18
  So it's not an it's not actually.
• 32:20
  It's just wood, okay? OK, I do.
• 32:24
  I am still scared of you with a wooden sword.
• 32:27
  I know how heavy they are. That's that's enough.
• 32:30
  Yeah, it's yeah. Well, he has.
• 32:33
  Thank you the whole time. Would you please welcome Sam?
• 32:35
  No, Matt, tell us who we're supporting for this script
• 32:40
  reading. Thank you.
• 32:41
  Thank you. I would love to you.
• 32:43
  So for this show, we're going to be raising funds for the
• 32:45
  California Collaborative for Immigrant Justice, and I'm very
• 32:48
  happy about that. The CCIJ utilizes coordination,
• 32:52
  advocacy and legal services to fight for the liberation of
• 32:56
  immigrants in detention in California, envisioning a world
• 32:59
  where no one is subject to incarceration or family
• 33:02
  separation, things that I very, very strongly believe in.
• 33:06
  You can bleep it if you want, but fuck ICE.
• 33:08
  And this is what we're mostly going for here, Yeah.
• 33:11
  Buckeyes. Buckeyes.
• 33:12
  I'm not. I'm not bleeping that.
• 33:15
  Fuck yeah. I'll bleep that.
• 33:19
  OK, Matt, tell us how we can get tickets.
• 33:22
  I believe I have that. I believe they've sold out in
• 33:24
  person. In person, sold out.
• 33:26
  Listen, I, I, I want to thank anybody here who's listening
• 33:29
  that bought a ticket in person because we literally sold out
• 33:32
  the theater in under 3 minutes and it was wow.
• 33:35
  It's crazy. And we are so, so, so happy
• 33:40
  about that. We are still going to live
• 33:43
  stream. We always live stream.
• 33:44
  We love live streaming, so you can purchase tickets for that at
• 33:47
  dynasty.tv. The live stream will go up live
• 33:51
  and then it'll also be available for two weeks after, so you
• 33:54
  don't need to watch it live. You guys can watch it or you can
• 33:56
  watch it again and again for those two weeks.
• 34:00
  I also recommend, highly recommend viewing parties or
• 34:05
  people getting together and watching the live stream
• 34:07
  together. They're always, that is always a
• 34:09
  good time. Great choice.
• 34:12
  And if, if you are to, if anyone out there is doing a live
• 34:14
  stream, please take some or a viewing party, take some photos,
• 34:18
  send it to us. I would love to see them, yes.
• 34:20
  Absolutely dress up. Oh yeah, I'm talking fruit hat.
• 34:24
  I want to see everyone. In a fruit hat?
• 34:25
  Absolutely everybody. Oops, all fruit hats.
• 34:30
  Excellent, Erica. Tell people where they can find
• 34:32
  you. I am at Erica Ishi on most
• 34:37
  things. I have my my website is bet is
• 34:41
  back up again, ericaishi.com. I have a podcast, World's Beyond
• 34:46
  Number with Brennan Abria and Lou Wilson.
• 34:49
  And yeah, I I am so excited about this.
• 34:56
  I'm excited to to see you play Russo again.
• 34:59
  Siobhan, where can we find you? I'm at Vonnie Tom across most
• 35:05
  platforms. Dimension 20 is streaming at the
• 35:08
  moment on dropout.tv. We're doing vampires in small
• 35:14
  town Oregon and then I'm also crowdfunding for a movie called
• 35:22
  The Greatest Treasure in the World with a bunch of.
• 35:23
  Hell yeah. Our our faves and if you go to
• 35:26
  BIT dot LY forward slash treasure film, you can find more
• 35:30
  information about that. It's a different I'm I'm doing
• 35:33
  only treasure related content for the next two months.
• 35:37
  So fortunately this fit in with my schedule.
• 35:42
  Perfect. Well, that makes sense because
• 35:43
  you are a treasure. Oh, you.
• 35:47
  Sucker, I'm going to throw up. And Matt, where can people find
• 35:51
  you? They can find me at that Matt
• 35:54
  Wilkie on Instagram as well as the Muppet script at Instagram.
• 35:59
  Perfect. Well, I'm looking forward to it.
• 36:01
  As I said before, shiver my tender siver, siver my soul.
• 36:05
  I stuff that up and keep it in because that's just what I do.
• 36:09
  And thank you. Very much yo-yo.
• 36:11
  Yo-yo. And margaritas at the midnight
• 36:14
  buffet.