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Alex Cora firing aftermath, Roki's new splitter, Kyle Harrison shines, Mets meltdown, Rays sweep Twins · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Charge about.
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Speaker 2: What did you think when you saw the news ten
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Speaker 2: and twenty seven or ten and seventeen, I should say
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Speaker 2: at the time, twenty seven games in the Red Sox
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Speaker 2: say no thanks to Alex Korra, who wasn't even halfway
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Speaker 2: through his current contract. And then they asked a number
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Speaker 2: of coaches that were kind of on his side, his corner,
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Speaker 2: his guys, and they kept their drive Line team, which
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Speaker 2: is a number of the coaches. Kyle Body, who was
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Speaker 2: the originator of drive Line, works for the team. And
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Speaker 2: then they've got some pitching guys. Andrew Bailey's still there
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Speaker 2: the whole deal. So there's been a clear cut separation
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Speaker 2: here where aj Breslow said, Hey, I'm going to keep
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Speaker 2: my data guys for pitching and I'm going to get
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Speaker 2: rid of the rest.
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Speaker 3: Basically, the whole thing is, I think we've talked about
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Speaker 3: this four. If you work for drive Line at drive
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Speaker 3: Line anytime, if you've been to drive Line, if you've
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Speaker 3: been around drive Line, if you've been in the neighborhood, area, code, county,
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Speaker 3: state of drive Line, and they will just hire you
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Speaker 3: as a coach and keep you as a coach forever,
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Speaker 3: because apparently you know more than a lot of people.
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Speaker 3: That's what I'm starting to figure out about this Driveline
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Speaker 3: thing is that if you're just in the area, like
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Speaker 3: you don't even have to I don't even I mean,
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Speaker 3: you know these guys. These people go there for like
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Speaker 3: a half a year, and like major League coach, he
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Speaker 3: was at drive Line for half a year. It's it's
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Speaker 3: crazy to me some of the names on this list.
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Speaker 3: I mean Alex Scorer first of all, talk to anybody
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Speaker 3: that's played for him. They love the guy. I mean,
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Speaker 3: I've been around him a lot, He's been on our show.
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Speaker 3: I love talking to baseball. I was I was shocked.
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Speaker 3: I was with a bunch of Boston people and they
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Speaker 3: were like what they were like what you know in
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Speaker 3: their Boston accents. But I mean, the Hudson third base
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Speaker 3: coach doesn't make any sense to what did he do?
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Speaker 3: He scored too many runs? He'd only score runs when
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Speaker 3: they give him a chance. Jason Vertek, were you assigned
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Speaker 3: in the organ?
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Speaker 4: Like what are we doing?
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Speaker 3: But Jason Vertec, I mean, I'm sure he's probably on
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Speaker 3: Alex corside because the deal is Alex cor pushback on
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Speaker 3: something and we had heard about this before. He clearly
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Speaker 3: pushed back on whatever it was that they were saying
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Speaker 3: he needed to do. Whether it was analytics, I don't
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Speaker 3: know because I'm not.
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Speaker 4: In the room.
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Speaker 3: This is a shocker to me because Alex core also
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Speaker 3: has seven and a half this year and seven and
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Speaker 3: a half next year left on his deal, so they're
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Speaker 3: paying him what I'm twenty fifteen, that's fifteen about eleven
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Speaker 3: million dollars, twelve million dollars To not be the manager
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Speaker 3: to an organization that wouldn't go out and try to
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Speaker 3: get the right pieces to fit, wouldn't give Alex Pragman.
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Speaker 4: A no trade clause, I don't know. It's shocking to me.
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Speaker 4: And I listen.
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Speaker 3: I played with Craig Breslow. I like Craig Breslow. He
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Speaker 3: can't get Craig Breslow to come on the show, though,
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Speaker 3: which is strange.
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Speaker 4: But I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I've had this conversation with a million people
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Speaker 3: in my life, and I'm sure christ has had it too.
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Speaker 4: I get analytics, I understand analytics. I understand the importance
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Speaker 4: of analytics.
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Speaker 3: Okay, but at some point you have to have people
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Speaker 3: that can tell your play how to do the analytics
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Speaker 3: on the field, and there also has to be something
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Speaker 3: in the organization in the dugout. And this is the
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Speaker 3: one thing that Philly's got in trouble with, you know,
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Speaker 3: Casiano said it. You have to have somebody that the
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Speaker 3: players can go to on this team and then in
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Speaker 3: the dugout and say, hey, how do you how am
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Speaker 3: I supposed to react to? I got to face the
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Speaker 3: closer in the ninth inning with the game online and the.
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Speaker 4: Guy, I'm sorry, the guy from drive Line.
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Speaker 3: He might be able to tell you the perfect swing
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Speaker 3: path on the perfect pitch and just exactly how to swing,
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Speaker 3: But when the pressure ramps up and the crowd gets
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Speaker 3: going crazy and you're facing I don't know who's the
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Speaker 3: best closer in base Mason Miller right now, how in
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Speaker 3: the heck do I get a hit off of them?
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Speaker 3: And the driveling guy can't tell you how to control
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Speaker 3: your heartbeat and all that stuff because they've never done it.
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Speaker 4: And that's on a knock on those guys.
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Speaker 3: They have their role, but you have to have a
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Speaker 3: mix and I think Alex Corr was one of the
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Speaker 3: best guys I've ever seen at mixing the analytics and
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Speaker 3: with the players and having communication with the players. I know,
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Speaker 3: Jason Veritek was awesome. I mean I played against him forever.
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Speaker 3: I've known him forever. He's awesome guy to have around.
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Speaker 3: Ramon Vasquez, I.
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Speaker 4: Mean I've always had great relationship with him. I don't know,
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Speaker 4: it was just surprising. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I'm shocked by this. Hey, good luck, Alex. I love
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Speaker 3: you and I'm glad that you're happy.
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Speaker 4: I think it's really just I.
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Speaker 5: Mean, aren't we supposed to make the decisions for the
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Speaker 5: big league team based on what's happening on the field. Yeah, okay,
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Speaker 5: they're eleven seventeen now that say, you know the season's
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Speaker 5: not going very well. But when you make decisions with
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Speaker 5: coaches based on what's happening on the field, then, to me,
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Speaker 5: I think there was a lot of proof in the pudding.
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Speaker 5: There was a lot of the fact that Honey, Kyle Hudson,
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Speaker 5: guy played with back I think in twenty eleven or twelve,
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Speaker 5: has done a great job with base running, outfield defense.
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Speaker 5: There's a lot of goal that he's worked with out
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Speaker 5: there Veritech. I think his resume speaks for itself. Uh
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Speaker 5: and Alice cor like you said, Ramona Vasquez, different guys
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Speaker 5: are getting fired that it feels like less of a
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Speaker 5: baseball move and more of a well, this isn't the
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Speaker 5: type of.
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Speaker 4: Culture that we want.
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Speaker 5: I don't know anything about the culture that they have,
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Speaker 5: but I'm saying that the front office is setting there.
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Speaker 5: They've cleared from last year when they got rid of
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Speaker 5: one of the better hitters in the game, Raffie Devers.
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Speaker 5: They're saying, our way is better than anything that you
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Speaker 5: guys know.
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Speaker 4: We are.
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Speaker 5: We are trumping anything that the people on the field
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Speaker 5: know about what success is going to look like in Boston,
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Speaker 5: whether that's front office, whether that's ownership telling front office
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Speaker 5: to do it this way. And it was it culminated
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Speaker 5: in the fact that in their meeting they were told
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Speaker 5: not to ask questions. They were not they were told
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Speaker 5: not to second guess it, they were told not to like,
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Speaker 5: you guys, go play, don't worry about the decisions that
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Speaker 5: we make. And that does not put a very peachy
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Speaker 1: Can I bring up?
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Speaker 3: I mean, I just I'm just I'm amazed, like I
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Speaker 3: don't know again, I played with Breslo and I like Craig,
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Speaker 3: but how do you not again, I guess it doesn't
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Speaker 3: matter what the players say. I mean, when you see
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Speaker 3: Trevor Story and some of the other players saying some
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Speaker 3: of the things they said about as far as UH support,
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Speaker 3: I guess you would say for AC And then they
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Speaker 3: have a meeting and they're not allowed to ask questions
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Speaker 3: and the man and Breslo speaks, but John Henry and
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Speaker 3: Sam Kennedy don't speak in this meeting. Listen, I've been
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Speaker 3: a part I don't know crouches, but I was there
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Speaker 3: when Freddy Gonzalez got fired and uh Snicker.
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Speaker 4: Took over and it was awkward as hell.
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Speaker 3: And it happened, you know, in the morning after a game,
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Speaker 3: and you just and everyone's like, well, who's the new manager.
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Speaker 3: Everyone's like texting each other, who is it?
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Speaker 4: Who? We don't know?
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Speaker 1: Is it?
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Speaker 3: You know, we thought it was gonna be Terry Pendleton
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Speaker 3: or Readie Perez. We're like, who's the manager? Who's the manager?
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Speaker 3: And they're like, oh, it's Snit. And I didn't know
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Speaker 3: Snitt really at all. And by the way, Sticker grats
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Speaker 3: on the Brace Hall of Fame. Sorry a little off topic,
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Speaker 3: but it's just as that first day is like awkward
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Speaker 3: as hell. And I know they said, oh a lot
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Speaker 3: of these players knew the new managers.
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Speaker 4: But like you know, when you see quotes like this
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Speaker 4: from Trevor's story.
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Speaker 1: The story doesn't say anything.
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Speaker 4: He never talks. I don't know. This whole thing is
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Speaker 4: crazy to me. I don't know. I mean, listen, I
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Speaker 4: text Alex. I did text Alex.
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Speaker 3: After it happened, and he, you know, he responded with
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Speaker 3: I'm happy tweet.
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Speaker 4: I'm like, or texting, come on, dude, Like.
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Speaker 1: I think he is happy.
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Speaker 4: I think he is too, but it's just funny that
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Speaker 4: he texted everybody.
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Speaker 3: Like I saw Ozzie Gean last night. Yeah, and I
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Speaker 3: talked to Ozzy about it. He's like, he texted me,
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Speaker 3: he texted him, and he text me back, I'm happy.
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Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, I get that, you know, but I
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Speaker 4: don't know. I don't know. I just I don't know
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Speaker 4: how this makes sense.
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Speaker 3: And the thing to me and I'm gonna and what
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Speaker 3: we've seen this a lot from a lot of different
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Speaker 3: organizations now is the GM. So I want to hire
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Speaker 3: people that will not push back on anything of their
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Speaker 3: agenda that they want to have. Okay, And I'm not
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Speaker 3: saying that's what Chad Tracy's gonna be. But Chad Tracy
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Speaker 3: ain't going in there and fighting for a certain line
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Speaker 3: of He's like, I'm a big league manager.
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Speaker 1: Look at me go.
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Speaker 4: If we do good, I could keep this job for
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Speaker 4: a long time. That's to me.
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Speaker 3: There had to be pushed and they in these gms
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Speaker 3: want somebody that won't push back.
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Speaker 5: Or how about Andrew Bailey keeps his job. And I'm
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Speaker 5: not into like, hey, fire more people, but the fact
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Speaker 5: that if it was on field performance, Andrew Bayley's staff
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Speaker 5: is bottom third in the league and he has Crochet
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Speaker 5: making thirty million, Suarez making twenty seven, Sonny Gray making
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Speaker 5: thirty five, I think be Beyo's like at like fourteen
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Speaker 5: or fifteen million, Like if it was clearly okay field
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Speaker 5: performance and not oh who are you buddies with? Who's
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Speaker 5: your buddy? Oh your buddies with him? Take a walk?
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Speaker 5: Oh your buddies with me? You can stay Like to me,
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Speaker 5: there has to like there has to have been something
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Speaker 5: that happened and it came to a head, And what
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Speaker 5: the instant instance was I don't know, because because Core
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Speaker 5: has taken a lot of flak for not having a
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Speaker 5: conversation with Raffi Devers before they brought in Alex Bregman.
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Speaker 5: I think we'll find out more stuff, but the fact
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Speaker 5: that Raffi was upset, you know, like, was that Alex
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Speaker 5: Or was that the front office telling Alex you got
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Speaker 5: to you gotta take the blame. And I really think
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Speaker 5: that the lack of feel for what the clubhouse needs
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Speaker 5: was displayed in this decision. Based on Carrott, Whitlock's response,
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Speaker 5: Roman Anthony's response, Trevor Story's response, different other guys that
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Speaker 5: I conversated with, response like, it's a probably a case
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Speaker 5: of egos, and ultimately the boss makes the decision, and
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Speaker 5: if he's not there to answer questions or isn't it
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Speaker 5: willing to answer questions with the players on the field.
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Speaker 4: To me, I think this is.
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Speaker 5: Something that will drag out and will pull the entire
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Speaker 5: organization and the team down. But they won two games since,
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Speaker 5: so maybe it's working out.
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Speaker 4: Well.
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Speaker 1: No, they've won one game since.
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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, they won seventeen to one. The day that
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Speaker 5: he got fired.
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Speaker 2: Core was still there, which is also crazy. They had
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Speaker 2: already planned it. It was pre planned. You got John
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Speaker 2: Henry come in, every the whole Brass is coming to
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Speaker 2: do the axing, and it's just hilarious that they win
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Speaker 2: seventeen to one.
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Speaker 1: Crochet looked kind of back rebounded, and then they're like
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Speaker 1: see ya, hey go seeya.
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Speaker 2: And we don't like the offense. I mean, hey, the
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Speaker 2: offense has not been good and there's not enough power.
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Speaker 2: But that's a roster construction thing, just to give you
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Speaker 2: an idea. Ecuse, of course it's not.
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Speaker 4: That's not the third base coach's fault.
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Speaker 2: No, I mean, this team was not constructed properly. Craig
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Speaker 2: Breslow is running the front office, and according to the
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Speaker 2: Red Sox, it was his decision if he's going to
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Speaker 2: go down, because you know he'll be next if the
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Speaker 2: Red Sox don't make the playoffs, then he's going to
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Speaker 2: go down with his guys. This is why so many
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Speaker 2: executives say no to even interviewing for that job, because
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Speaker 2: Craig Breslow might take this job and then never be
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Speaker 2: leading a front office again. It could make you look
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Speaker 2: bad and you usually don't get a lot of time
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Speaker 2: to do this. You come in, it's kind of a mess,
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Speaker 2: and then of course you get tons of rumors and
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Speaker 2: as Ken rosendaland fair Territory said scapegoats, like they lead
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Speaker 2: the league in scapegoats and those.
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Speaker 1: Kinds of things.
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Speaker 2: Just to give you an idea of what some of
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Speaker 2: the quotes were from players that were alluding to. Trevor
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Speaker 2: Story said, if this shows us anything, it's we're going
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Speaker 2: to play baseball and that's it. We don't make decisions,
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Speaker 2: We don't have any input on that. Garrett Whitlock said,
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Speaker 2: they made it very clear, we get paid to play baseball.
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Speaker 2: We need to just focus on playing baseball. So that's
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Speaker 2: where we're at. So it sounded like the meeting was
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Speaker 2: shut up, play better. We don't care what you have
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Speaker 2: to say, but we love you and you're the team.
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Speaker 2: It's about the players. Trevor Story also said Cora and
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Speaker 2: others were some of the best coaches in the world,
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Speaker 2: and he felt like they didn't get a fair shot.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to take you to a story from one
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Speaker 2: of the Red Sox writers. We're going to talk to
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Speaker 2: some others later about it that write about the Red Sox,
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Speaker 2: but Julian McWilliams writes the story for CBS, and he
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Speaker 2: essentially said that the front office felt as if the
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Speaker 2: development wasn't going well and they were butting heads on
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Speaker 2: decision making. For example, this is the one that drove
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Speaker 2: me nuts. David Hamilton was part of the trade with
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Speaker 2: the Brewers, right, and the front office really liked him
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Speaker 2: and some of his metrics. The coaching staff felt like
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Speaker 2: his baseball eye awareness, IQ feel for the game wasn't
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Speaker 2: there to get regular pt and be a big impact
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Speaker 2: player at that moment. So they're like, Okay, it's not working,
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Speaker 2: we're gonna trade him. And I guess he had a
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Speaker 2: good series against the Red Sox and they're like, how
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Speaker 2: come players go elsewhere and they play better? And if
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Speaker 2: this is in the story and CBS right and Julian McWilliams,
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Speaker 2: I know him for years. He's very good reporter. He's
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Speaker 2: probably taking this from someone inside the organization. I'm like,
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Speaker 2: hold up, Steve Hamilton playing well this year. He's got
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Speaker 2: a seventy five OPS plus a six h five ops
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Speaker 2: and eighty played appearances playing part time for the Brewers.
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Speaker 2: You're blaming the Red Sox on not making him a star.
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Speaker 2: He's not a start supposed.
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Speaker 4: To be a star.
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Speaker 1: Hold up involved in that trade.
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Speaker 4: He made the trade.
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Speaker 1: Caleb durban Wait who else is in that trade?
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Speaker 4: Kyle Harrison the pitcher's well.
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Speaker 2: How's the pitching, how's the pitching brands doing? And feeling
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Speaker 2: about Kyle Harrison looking like a freaking stud right now?
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Speaker 2: I would I would send that right back, and that
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Speaker 2: that might have been what happened. Corean Company might have
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Speaker 2: been like, you're we were right on that one, just
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Speaker 2: like Also, Trevor Story had a nice bounce back year.
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Speaker 2: Front office hated him. That's probably why Story is talking
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Speaker 2: about this. There was a lot of dissension. He shouldn't
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Speaker 2: be playing every day, blah blah blah. Twenty five homers,
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Speaker 2: ninety six RBIs this year not playing great. Neither is
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Speaker 2: anyone on their offense.
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Speaker 4: So it's twenty five games. Some of the.
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Speaker 2: Debates though that we're going down according to the story,
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Speaker 2: and I believe this story. But that's why I'm like, wait,
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Speaker 2: hold up, you want to you want to do a
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Speaker 2: little tit for tat on development, I'd be like, cool, Hamilton's.
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Speaker 1: Not doing much yet.
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Speaker 2: How's Rob Refsnyder doing halfway out the league now making
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Speaker 2: seven million bucks to be one of the best platoon players.
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Speaker 1: We developed him, Durant, We developed him. They've done plenty.
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Speaker 1: I just don't even understand.
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Speaker 3: No, that shouldn't happen at the big league level, and
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Speaker 3: I mean it does with the ref Snyder.
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Speaker 1: It does because he was a big league player. Ye,
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Speaker 1: but there's you're saying minor leaguers though when.
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Speaker 3: They get there, they should mostly be developed. But the pitching,
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Speaker 3: You're right, David Hamilton was never going to be a star.
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Speaker 4: He was. He could barely get on.
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Speaker 3: The field there for a while for the Red Sox,
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Speaker 3: so they're worried about getting rid of him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there that was the report.
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Speaker 3: How about Craig Breslo traded him and Harrison for Caleb Durwan.
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Speaker 3: How about that one?
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Speaker 1: Well that's not cherry pickage.
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Speaker 4: Ah, Okay, then find kidding.
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Speaker 1: I mean, what are we doing?
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Speaker 4: I mean the Crochet traded worked out last year.
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Speaker 2: For him, worked out great. And that's probably one that there.
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Speaker 2: We brought Croche over and out.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 4: The Brewers like it, the Devs trade, the Brewers like it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like Kyle Harrison is also playing like crap it again.
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Speaker 2: I think he'll he'll figure it out. I just don't
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Speaker 2: get some of the dissension there, but that was there.
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Speaker 2: That's just giving you a taste of what was happening,
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Speaker 2: and you're not going to get much information. At some point,
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Speaker 2: hopefully Cora talks and then you a more info on
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Speaker 2: what was happening. But the real key here, guys, is
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Speaker 2: that this team just doesn't hold on to managers in
17:07
Speaker 2: front office types. It's just part of their mo So
17:09
Speaker 2: I will say to finish this off. When I saw
17:12
Speaker 2: the news on Saturday, I was like, yeah, that makes sense.
17:16
Speaker 4: It doesn't make They turned into something pretty good. He's good, Roman,
17:20
Speaker 4: Anthony's pretty good.
17:22
Speaker 1: He was in tears this weekend. That guided the coaching staff.
17:25
Speaker 3: I'm sure he was because he was the guy that
17:28
Speaker 3: they were, the guys that had confidence in him and
17:29
Speaker 3: stuck him out there to win a gold Glove and
17:32
Speaker 3: become a star for Venezuela. I mean, Jared Duran, he's
17:35
Speaker 3: been up and down, but I mean he did something.
17:37
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just looking at the list here.
17:39
Speaker 2: He was another guy in tears this weekend. I mean,
17:45
Speaker 2: the players are distraught, so we'll see what happens.
17:47
Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm just I don't know, I don't know
17:49
Speaker 3: what I don't I don't know, I don't get it.
17:51
Speaker 5: I have more questions that ask oh, No, I was
17:54
Speaker 5: just gonna say. Somebody who knows the Red Sox organization
17:57
Speaker 5: pretty well said the drive line if it's happening in Boston,
18:03
Speaker 5: like it's just a continue It was a great line,
18:06
Speaker 5: I mean a great word drive linification. And they're just
18:10
Speaker 5: continuing to do it. They're just they're cutting out, they're
18:13
Speaker 5: trimming out what it is that baseball guys need to
18:17
Speaker 5: do to connect with the players on the field.
18:21
Speaker 2: The Angels designated Jordan Romano for assignment. Also Logan o'happi
18:26
Speaker 2: hits the shelf fractured wrist for him. So tough little
18:30
Speaker 2: twenty four hours Kratz as they suffered a comeback loss
18:37
Speaker 2: against the Royals. They had a rough weekend and our
18:40
Speaker 2: Halo Territory show was pretty critical of the way that
18:43
Speaker 2: the front office has thought about bullpen construction over the years.
18:47
Speaker 2: They have pretty consistently not been able to put a
18:49
Speaker 2: great bullpen together. If you look at the past whatever
18:52
Speaker 2: six seven years of this current you know, Perimanation and
18:55
Speaker 2: Company group in there. So your thoughts on where the
18:58
Speaker 2: Angels are at. Do you feel like, after a nice
19:00
Speaker 2: start and try out looking like an MVP, things are
19:02
Speaker 2: looking shaky.
19:04
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you never want to lose one of
19:06
Speaker 5: your I get it. He's not the only catcher with
19:09
Speaker 5: Darneault there too, But to me, Logan's the starting catcher.
19:12
Speaker 5: But as far as the roster or bullpen construction, let's
19:16
Speaker 5: say they had hit the bullpen construction like nailed.
19:20
Speaker 4: It on the head.
19:21
Speaker 5: They don't bring in guys and start in the starting
19:24
Speaker 5: pitching role that are gonna support that bullpen. They don't
19:27
Speaker 5: bring in guys that are gonna say, okay, we have
19:30
Speaker 5: you know, we have somebody that's gonna be able to
19:31
Speaker 5: eat innings. Jose Soriano is looking like he could be
19:36
Speaker 5: a cy Young winner this year, like he is dealing.
19:39
Speaker 5: I get that. But part of constructing a good bullpen is, yes,
19:45
Speaker 5: you have to try to hit on some of the
19:47
Speaker 5: Jordan Romanos in the sense that he had a bad
19:50
Speaker 5: year last year and they're like, okay, you know, we'll
19:52
Speaker 5: try it out, but you can't have a whole bullpen.
19:56
Speaker 5: We'll try it out, guys.
19:59
Speaker 2: Hey, we mentioned this earlier. Kyle Harrison is pitching really
20:02
Speaker 2: well for Milwaukee. Finest game of his young career for
20:06
Speaker 2: the Brewers. Bob Night got with this tweet six innings,
20:08
Speaker 2: one hit, twelve punchouts in a five to nothing win
20:12
Speaker 2: on Sunday for the Brewers to avoid a sweep. The
20:14
Speaker 2: Pirates played him well in the first couple, but Harrison
20:16
Speaker 2: in five starts as a two to two eight era
20:20
Speaker 2: Milwaukee had a great game pitching staff wise. Eighteen punchouts
20:24
Speaker 2: just allowed two hits from a Pittsburgh team that was
20:27
Speaker 2: feisty against them earlier in this series.
20:30
Speaker 1: Kyle Irrison looks really good.
20:31
Speaker 2: I mean, he was one of the upper echelon pitching
20:34
Speaker 2: prospects in the sport, and many people in fantasy Baseball
20:39
Speaker 2: picked him up before the season started, thinking if this
20:42
Speaker 2: guy's ever going to catch fire, it might be with Milwaukee.
20:44
Speaker 2: They've done this really often lately with starters.
20:48
Speaker 4: It just adds to the point about development.
20:52
Speaker 1: They're doing it better than his teams.
20:54
Speaker 4: Right.
20:55
Speaker 3: If I'm a team, wouldn't you want to hire wouldn't
20:58
Speaker 3: Hooky be high on your list as a pitching guy from.
21:01
Speaker 1: Whatever they're doing, Bruce pitching coach Chris hook.
21:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, beyond teams, I don't know. I mean, they do
21:07
Speaker 3: something better than whether it's him, whether it's the system,
21:11
Speaker 3: whether it's Matt Arnold, whether it's Pat Murphy, whether it's
21:16
Speaker 3: their bullp I don't know who they're bullpen coaches. Maybe
21:18
Speaker 3: it's their bullpen catcher. I don't know who it is.
21:20
Speaker 5: Or it's all of them, or it's all about together
21:23
Speaker 5: because all of them say, hey, you know what, what
21:26
Speaker 5: is it that makes you really good?
21:28
Speaker 4: Let's delve into that.
21:30
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Phillies for a hot second. Do
21:33
Speaker 2: we think that Copper, Rob Thompson or I mean, we
21:36
Speaker 2: can talk about the Mets too, for these two minutes,
21:38
Speaker 2: Carlos Mendoza are going to make it through the week,
21:41
Speaker 2: either of them. Do we think Alex Cora might replace
21:44
Speaker 2: one of them? Things are getting wild really early in
21:46
Speaker 2: the season.
21:48
Speaker 4: I'm confused by the Phillies Crotchy. I just don't.
21:52
Speaker 3: I didn't see this coming. I didn't see this coming
21:55
Speaker 3: at all. And again it's not Topper's fault, I mean
21:57
Speaker 3: not Topers. Change hasn't changed for what he did the
22:00
Speaker 3: last few years, and he took them.
22:02
Speaker 4: Deep been the playoffs. In the playoffs, I don't know.
22:05
Speaker 5: The Philly one is the one that to me is
22:07
Speaker 5: like whoa And the last the last time this happened,
22:11
Speaker 5: Topper took over for Joe Girardi. I thought Joe Girardi
22:14
Speaker 5: was a really good manager. The team turned it around.
22:18
Speaker 5: My feeling is Kevin Long has always kind of been
22:23
Speaker 5: his own entity, his own like, well, he does it
22:27
Speaker 5: this way. The organization, even baseball in general, does it
22:31
Speaker 5: a certain way, and he always does it his way.
22:34
Speaker 5: For some reason, I'm leaning towards I think k Long
22:37
Speaker 5: possibly gets fired, whether it's his fault or not. Like,
22:40
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22:43
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24:03
Speaker 2: has been a fascinating storyline. Do we think that Roki
24:06
Speaker 2: Sasaki maybe found something over the week? And I know
24:09
Speaker 2: he still gave up a few homers and the fastball
24:13
Speaker 2: command is not the sharpest, but the splitter looked really
24:17
Speaker 2: damn good. You had what five miles an hour of
24:19
Speaker 2: splitter velocity. He had the idea to change the grip,
24:21
Speaker 2: the Dodgers helped him, and then boom, there's your difference
24:26
Speaker 2: from April fifth to yesterday.
24:28
Speaker 1: I'll let you guys explain. Why are you giving me
24:30
Speaker 1: a look?
24:31
Speaker 3: You just switched the seams. It looks like, I mean,
24:35
Speaker 3: I don't understand what's different there. I mean, yeah, you
24:38
Speaker 3: switch the seams. Maybe, well they.
24:41
Speaker 4: Call that orientation.
24:43
Speaker 5: Basically, it's he's saying he's throwing it from the the
24:48
Speaker 5: parallel lines, and then he's and then he was throwing
24:51
Speaker 5: it with a horseshoe, which to me, like, it's not
24:56
Speaker 5: just about velocity, it's not just about it's the it's
25:00
Speaker 5: about results. Like plenty of people tinker with things. To me,
25:06
Speaker 5: this is a prime case of oh, see he changed something.
25:10
Speaker 5: Oh everybody's enamored.
25:11
Speaker 4: With this guy.
25:12
Speaker 5: Let's just he's still what was his stat line? I
25:15
Speaker 5: just pulled it up. Still gave up seven hits. He
25:19
Speaker 5: had one walk, that's good, you know, gave up three dingers,
25:23
Speaker 5: Like the name of the game is not giving up runs.
25:28
Speaker 4: I'm not sure.
25:30
Speaker 5: I'm not sure what why we made such a big
25:32
Speaker 5: deal out of him changing his splitter. He still didn't
25:35
Speaker 5: have a grade outing in my opinion, they.
25:39
Speaker 2: Like to say, oh we saw progress, right, one walk
25:42
Speaker 2: and a more effective splitter by pitch grading, it's.
25:48
Speaker 1: Just how the game is evaluated these days.
25:52
Speaker 5: What pitch grading? Hey, ja, what did you tell a
25:56
Speaker 5: pitcher when he was like, hey, was that a good pitch?
25:59
Speaker 5: After he just gave up a no, no.
26:03
Speaker 4: And you got a guy out, and you got a
26:05
Speaker 4: guy out, he still gave listen.
26:07
Speaker 3: He went five innings, seven hits, three homers. It's not
26:11
Speaker 3: like he went out and went nine shutty. I mean
26:14
Speaker 3: Sean Berg again yesterday went seven and a third, three hits,
26:17
Speaker 3: no runs. That's a good that's good pitch. What'd you
26:20
Speaker 3: call it?
26:21
Speaker 4: Grade? Pitch grading? Yeah?
26:22
Speaker 3: You know what's not good pitch grading? Five innings? How
26:25
Speaker 3: many pitches you throw? One hundred pitches? One hundred pitches
26:28
Speaker 3: and five innings. You know what that's not that's bad
26:30
Speaker 3: pitch grading because it's too many pitches, it's too many homers.
26:35
Speaker 3: He still has a six and a half vra well
26:37
Speaker 3: six three five, sorry, rounding up.
26:41
Speaker 5: Ninety nine pitches and a strike eight one, Like come on,
26:44
Speaker 5: like you could change all you want. What is the
26:49
Speaker 5: what is the base What is the base level? For
26:51
Speaker 5: big league pitchers? The base level is you gotta throw
26:54
Speaker 5: strikes and you gotta get through. For starters, you got
26:57
Speaker 5: to get through innings. And I think Rokie is in
27:00
Speaker 5: the perfect spot where he is in a Dodgers organization
27:03
Speaker 5: where they have a lot of pitching, and he's able
27:06
Speaker 5: to figure this out. In the big leagues, he's gonna
27:09
Speaker 5: have to figure it out at some point. He's gonna
27:11
Speaker 5: have to figure it out. And pitch orientation, pitch grading
27:14
Speaker 5: based on the edgatronic camera and track man and hawke
27:18
Speaker 5: guy and all that stuff. The hitters will let you
27:22
Speaker 5: know if the pitch is really good. The hitters will
27:24
Speaker 5: let you know. You throw it harder. That doesn't necessarily
27:27
Speaker 5: mean it's a better pitch, Like if it gets more outs,
27:31
Speaker 5: that is the better pitch. Like if the gyro slider
27:34
Speaker 5: doesn't work for somebody, you can't just keep throwing it
27:37
Speaker 5: even though even though oh, well you know this says
27:40
Speaker 5: pitch profile says it's gonna be good. Well, you know what,
27:43
Speaker 5: your next says, it's not because you keep going like this.
27:45
Speaker 4: Wock. Oh man?
27:47
Speaker 1: What?
27:48
Speaker 4: Oh man? You know what?
27:49
Speaker 5: Like three home runs is a lot of hard hit baseballs.
27:52
Speaker 5: And I think maybe maybe he can grow from this pitch.
27:56
Speaker 5: Has he developed that third pitch that they want him
27:58
Speaker 5: to develop in spring training and that most pitchers get
28:01
Speaker 5: to get send down the triple A to figure out
28:03
Speaker 5: has he developed it?
28:04
Speaker 4: I don't know.
28:05
Speaker 5: Results haven't shown it yet, but he has a longer
28:08
Speaker 5: leash than a lot of guys do.
28:10
Speaker 2: Yes, he has that luxury for sure. And the team
28:13
Speaker 2: won the game, right. I mean, you've got one of
28:15
Speaker 2: the best offenses in baseball and you can afford to
28:17
Speaker 2: have these types of outings and not have it kill you.
28:20
Speaker 3: Until he learns how to throw his fastball for a strike,
28:25
Speaker 3: he can change his grip on a split all he wants,
28:27
Speaker 3: because guys will still foul it.
28:29
Speaker 4: All. Yeah, so get some strikeouts.
28:32
Speaker 3: But until he learns cracks to throw the fastball for
28:34
Speaker 3: a strike consistently, because guys just won't swing at the split.
28:38
Speaker 3: I mean they'll try not to, and they will every
28:40
Speaker 3: once in a while. Guys will, but they're just going
28:42
Speaker 3: to go up there and say, Okay, Well, at some
28:43
Speaker 3: point he's going to get into a fastball count. I
28:45
Speaker 3: know if I get too, Oh, he's not throwing me
28:46
Speaker 3: a split. He didn't really have a great slider. That's
28:49
Speaker 3: why they want him to develop a third pitch. He's
28:51
Speaker 3: kind of in a weird spot. I don't care. Oh,
28:52
Speaker 3: he threw it two miles an hour harder and had
28:54
Speaker 3: three more rotations or whatever it had on it. I mean,
28:57
Speaker 3: cool and all, But you know what that also means.
29:00
Speaker 3: It probably has less movement, and therefore it's straising the
29:03
Speaker 3: zone more, and therefore guys.
29:05
Speaker 4: Can hit it better.
29:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, his fastball is getting destroyed this year.
29:08
Speaker 4: Because it's the only pitch he has that you can
29:10
Speaker 4: throw for a strike. Yeah, on a somewhat consistent.
29:12
Speaker 2: Level, seven sixty seven against his four seamer slugging percentage.
29:19
Speaker 5: Even me is a bad hitter. If you tell me
29:21
Speaker 5: a guy can't throw his splitter for a strike because
29:25
Speaker 5: he's not sure where it's gonna go. I can pick
29:28
Speaker 5: that up out of the hand and just automatically not swing.
29:31
Speaker 5: Can't he throw it for a strike?
29:32
Speaker 4: Sometimes? And what I get burned? Absolutely?
29:34
Speaker 5: But if you're only sitting on one pitch, that's why
29:37
Speaker 5: seven what did you say, seven to seventy six.
29:40
Speaker 2: Was sec sixty seven slugging against his four seamer this
29:43
Speaker 2: year three ninety five batting average.
29:46
Speaker 4: And and so.
29:48
Speaker 5: That's partially command, but it's mostly the fact that you
29:51
Speaker 5: don't have anything else and guys are just sitting on it.
29:56
Speaker 2: Hey, Andrew Freeman bit back at the story. That just
29:59
Speaker 2: won't end the Otani rule. He said on AM five
30:03
Speaker 2: seventy in LA that MLB reached out to teams before
30:06
Speaker 2: implementing the Otani rule when Atani was playing with the Angels.
30:10
Speaker 1: Clearly, I guess they were okay with it.
30:13
Speaker 2: Freeman said on this interview, it felt very random and
30:15
Speaker 2: strange that Craig Council felt the need to bring up
30:18
Speaker 2: the Otani rule. Council doubled down over the weekend when
30:23
Speaker 2: they first went to him on Friday. Did you guys
30:24
Speaker 2: see that he was pretty strong about it. I never
30:27
Speaker 2: see him talk like that.
30:28
Speaker 1: Craig Counsel and Trevor's story were not on my Bengo
30:31
Speaker 1: card for Quotes of the Week.
30:35
Speaker 5: I mean, okay, major League Baseball went to teams like
30:39
Speaker 5: they really, like they really you know how much Major
30:42
Speaker 5: League Baseball goes to teams when they ask about rules
30:45
Speaker 5: put They even put players on their rules committee. And
30:47
Speaker 5: then they're like, I know the players disagreed with this,
30:50
Speaker 5: but we're still.
30:51
Speaker 4: Implementing a rule. So I don't know about that answer.
30:53
Speaker 4: But Craig feels like he's right, So good for him
30:56
Speaker 4: for doublee down.
30:58
Speaker 3: By the way, the Brules committee crats, by the way,
31:03
Speaker 3: has I think it's five executives and four players, so
31:07
Speaker 3: that even if all the players vote against something, it
31:08
Speaker 3: doesn't even matter.
31:09
Speaker 4: Correct. So that's what's funny about them being on one
31:13
Speaker 4: and one umpire.
31:14
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah, So whatever however they do it, even
31:17
Speaker 3: if all the players disagree, it doesn't matter.
31:18
Speaker 4: They're gonna do it anyway. So that's hilarious.
31:21
Speaker 3: Uh, Honestly, I didn't watch a lot of baseball this week,
31:24
Speaker 3: and I was kind of busy, but I checked the highlights.
31:27
Speaker 3: How did PCA was? What was his reac I didn't
31:30
Speaker 3: see the reaction that he got.
31:34
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm assuming was it bad or was it
31:36
Speaker 5: kind of I mean, not many people are there in
31:39
Speaker 5: the first at bat, so they didn't, you know, they didn't.
31:43
Speaker 5: But the media, the h the twitter account, Dodger's Twitter
31:48
Speaker 5: account when he struck out, you know, he flay out
31:50
Speaker 5: at a pitch in the dird or whatever and basically
31:53
Speaker 5: just regurgitated his quote and was like, oh, well this
31:55
Speaker 5: should be like a picture or whatever, basically saying exactly
32:00
Speaker 5: what he said.
32:01
Speaker 4: So it was good, good drama.
32:03
Speaker 2: Dodgers won two out of three, but Game one Cubs win.
32:06
Speaker 2: That was their tenth in a row. They're feeling it.
32:08
Speaker 2: There was video that Marquee posted of PCA walking back
32:12
Speaker 2: into the dugout saying, I'm going to paraphrase something like
32:16
Speaker 2: where are you? Where are they something like that when
32:18
Speaker 2: the game ended, because he was saying, Oh, they're not here.
32:22
Speaker 1: That's fun. That's heel Stone.
32:24
Speaker 4: He's from there too.
32:25
Speaker 1: Be the villain. I agree, embrace the villain.
32:29
Speaker 2: Hey, the first team to twenty wins is the Atlanta Braves.
32:33
Speaker 2: We talked about the Philly side for a moment, but
32:36
Speaker 2: how about the Atlanta side. Chris Sale looks like a
32:39
Speaker 2: cy young candidate. Almost everyone is hitting. The guys that
32:42
Speaker 2: aren't hitting great are the ones that you are probably
32:45
Speaker 2: least concerned about, right Like akunye Haires looks good, Olsen
32:50
Speaker 2: looks great. They lost a ton of pictures, doesn't matter
32:56
Speaker 2: right now, right, Strider's going to be back soon. He
32:59
Speaker 2: might be back next I don't know if they announced
33:01
Speaker 2: it yet, but he looked pretty good in his last
33:02
Speaker 2: rehab outing.
33:05
Speaker 1: Is this the best team in base No, but the
33:09
Speaker 1: one thing that's number one in your power rankings?
33:11
Speaker 4: No, the Dodgers, but because they have the most wins.
33:13
Speaker 3: But I just got you know what, Maybe I'll put
33:16
Speaker 3: the number one of my power most wins. If Chris
33:18
Speaker 3: Sale does something about the beard.
33:20
Speaker 1: I know the Braves of the but they're not your
33:22
Speaker 1: number one.
33:22
Speaker 4: No, what do you want him to do?
33:24
Speaker 3: Color Chris Sill needs to trim that beard a little bit.
33:28
Speaker 3: Why they could they can move up? Maybe there number two.
33:32
Speaker 3: Maybe it gives them intimidation factor.
33:34
Speaker 2: Oh so tough, Chris Braves fans have it good. They
33:37
Speaker 2: miss the playoffs last year for the first time since twenty.
33:39
Speaker 3: The Braves since the nineties have went in the playoffs
33:42
Speaker 3: like was that thirty six years ago? They've been in
33:44
Speaker 3: the playoffs like thirty four of the thirty six years
33:46
Speaker 3: and it was only years they missed for the two
33:48
Speaker 3: years I was there.
33:48
Speaker 4: They're good.
33:49
Speaker 2: No, fans want more titles, but they're good. And this
33:52
Speaker 2: year eight series wins one time, no series losses as
33:55
Speaker 2: they took down the Phillies in a weekend set.
33:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, be good.
34:00
Speaker 1: They're good.
34:01
Speaker 5: Fans don't show up either. It's getting hot. Atlanta fans
34:04
Speaker 5: won't be there. Phillies fans will stop showing up soon.
34:08
Speaker 5: Mets fans they don't want to be there. The National
34:10
Speaker 5: League East, the Marlins might have the most fans this year.
34:14
Speaker 5: Look at that National League East. Everybody has a losing record.
34:19
Speaker 1: Except for the Braves.
34:20
Speaker 4: Except for the Braves.
34:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a weird start in the NL East.
34:25
Speaker 2: But Atlanta is thriving right now. Not weird, they really are.
34:30
Speaker 4: They're pitching well too, which they aren't. The biggest surprise.
34:32
Speaker 1: They're starting pitching e r with all the losses they took. No.
34:36
Speaker 1: I mean last year it wasn't good because they lost
34:39
Speaker 1: a ton of guys.
34:39
Speaker 4: And this year, anybody.
34:43
Speaker 2: This year three one two ra is third in baseball
34:46
Speaker 2: from their starting staff.
34:47
Speaker 1: That's really damn good.
34:48
Speaker 5: What do the Braves for all those years that AJ
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36:03
Speaker 2: things on the American League East. I know we've been
36:06
Speaker 2: talking a lot about the Red Sox and a little
36:08
Speaker 2: bit about the Yankees. The Blue Jays just placed Max
36:10
Speaker 2: Schuers around the injury list. Right fore arm tendonitis, left
36:14
Speaker 2: ankle inflammation. The Blue Jays have a very very long
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Speaker 2: injury list this year. You know who doesn't have a
36:21
Speaker 2: long injury list, The Rays. They swept the Twins. They
36:24
Speaker 2: look pretty good right now. They're pretty healthy.
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Speaker 4: They're doing all right.
36:27
Speaker 2: Shane mcclanahan's back. He pitched well again this weekend. They've
36:30
Speaker 2: won eleven of fifteen games. They're sixteen and eleven.
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Speaker 4: Right. Junior Cavnaro hasn't swung and missed in like a month.
36:38
Speaker 4: I feel like it's been locked. Like he's he's doing damage.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the front office dream with the dam I
36:47
Speaker 2: mean big loud contact and then not missing in the zone.
36:51
Speaker 2: But yeah, they have the second best mark in the
36:53
Speaker 2: American League. I know it's early, and for me, this
36:56
Speaker 2: series says just as much about the Twins. I remember
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Speaker 2: two three weeks ago, like, oh, or the Twins gonna
37:01
Speaker 2: be good man. They've lost nine of ten.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think anybody really thought they.
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Speaker 2: Were gonna I didn't know. We were trying to be nice.
37:08
Speaker 2: We had some players on.
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Speaker 5: It was fun what the race found another closer, Like
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Speaker 5: they just they just go ahead and throw Brian Baker
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Speaker 5: in there. I think he's like top three or four
37:18
Speaker 5: in the league in saves, like just oh. The Orioles
37:22
Speaker 5: were like, ah, whatever, Yeah, we'll get rid of the guy.
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Speaker 4: He's fine.
37:27
Speaker 5: And remember that we like Pete Fairbanks, We're not gonna
37:31
Speaker 5: pay you. Brian Baker right into the closer role.
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Speaker 4: But he was good.
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Speaker 3: He was good for the he was remember when remember
37:39
Speaker 3: when the race trade of farm Everyone's like, what are
37:41
Speaker 3: the Orioles doing? Because he was under control and we're
37:44
Speaker 3: like the whole what are the Oils doing?
37:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will say, I mean there were a
37:49
Speaker 2: lot of comments that were like, guys, really, it's Brian Baker.
37:52
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, every piece in the name.
37:56
Speaker 5: Yet every piece in the bullpen matters Brian Baker.
37:59
Speaker 4: He was older. Absolutely, who cares every piece of a
38:02
Speaker 4: bull bait? I think the raids are pain.
38:03
Speaker 5: I'm like one and a half million, maybe not even
38:05
Speaker 5: one and a half million right now.
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Speaker 4: Every team needs bullpen pieces.
38:11
Speaker 2: Ano they're moved from the other day with Toronto, Jeff
38:14
Speaker 2: Hoffman out of the closer role for now, going with
38:16
Speaker 2: the committee in Toronto. Even though they've been hit with
38:20
Speaker 2: all these injuries, I'm still not worried about them, like
38:22
Speaker 2: the the offense looks like it's going to be really
38:26
Speaker 2: freaking good. Okamoto is very back. You know, he made
38:29
Speaker 2: an adjustment. He's further back. You know, he went like
38:33
Speaker 2: I think they said six inches back and it changed things.
38:36
Speaker 2: He's doing what did he do in the dugout too?
38:38
Speaker 2: Did you see that he's doing gratitude.
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Speaker 4: Ceremonies, gratitude.
38:41
Speaker 3: That was a bomb he hit, Yeah, two, no, but
38:45
Speaker 3: that one he hit on the he got finally got
38:47
Speaker 3: to one of them, heaters up and he walked the
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Speaker 3: crap out of the ball.
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Speaker 1: He's going to be good. I like him.
38:53
Speaker 4: It's a lot of injuries, a lot of injuries.
38:56
Speaker 5: They got to find some innings from guys, and it
39:00
Speaker 5: gets it gets worse and worse every day. I know
39:02
Speaker 5: Max wasn't going seven innings for him, but you got
39:05
Speaker 5: to find somebody that's going to give you what Max
39:08
Speaker 5: could have given you. You assumed he was going to
39:10
Speaker 5: get better, but it's it's a lot, and that kind
39:14
Speaker 5: of stuff catches up to you in July.
39:18
Speaker 2: They've got dogs though. I mean, this is why you
39:20
Speaker 2: pay big money for Dylan Cees. It's not just oh
39:22
Speaker 2: I think I can make him better. He freaking pitches.
39:25
Speaker 2: He always pitches, and you need innings from him.
39:29
Speaker 1: Not a lot of Savage in Brios, I know.
39:31
Speaker 2: But Savage and Burrios should give them innings that, you know,
39:34
Speaker 2: the rest of the year here, Hopefully they stay healthy.
39:36
Speaker 2: Bieber's going to come back at some point. Gossman gives
39:40
Speaker 2: you innings. Corbin looks good right now. I'm not that
39:43
Speaker 2: worried about them. I'm not, and I think the offense
39:45
Speaker 2: is going to bang. So they're twelve and fifteen. It's
39:48
Speaker 2: not great. They're not that much better game and a
39:50
Speaker 2: hat better than the Red Sox and just acts their
39:53
Speaker 2: coaching staff.
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Speaker 1: But I'm not concerned. I mean the Red Sox should
39:57
Speaker 1: be concerned, because I think.
39:57
Speaker 2: The Blue Jays will play well. Right Razor playing better
40:00
Speaker 2: than most people. Anticipated Yankees look like a force. I
40:04
Speaker 2: think the Orioles will be a little better than they
40:06
Speaker 2: look right now. Pete's gonna hit eventually, right m you
40:10
Speaker 2: got cold again. But they're thirteen and fifteen. You hover
40:12
Speaker 2: around there. One winning streak and then we're all gushing
40:16
Speaker 2: over the team.
40:18
Speaker 4: Worn off. I haven't seen him from a while.
40:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get one hug a week and then I'm
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40:47
Speaker 2: concern called one eight hundred gambler. Hey, the Colorado Rockies
41:04
Speaker 2: put up the purple Empire State Building picture to be like,
41:10
Speaker 2: do you want to give us this Mets for sweeping you?
41:14
Speaker 2: They're really going for it. The Twins through the twelve
41:17
Speaker 2: jokes at them the other day when they had their
41:19
Speaker 2: twelve game losing skid. They were like, hey, I'mpire State
41:23
Speaker 2: Building just an idea because Empy puts up different coloring
41:28
Speaker 2: each night. We talked about plenty of teams todaying what
41:31
Speaker 2: happened over the weekend. We barely talked about the Mets. Besides,
41:34
Speaker 2: with Sack Scott, I mean, this is the second largest
41:37
Speaker 2: payroll in the sport. We might have a manager change
41:39
Speaker 2: this week. Their off season experiment right now looks like
41:43
Speaker 2: a disaster. Then they run into Colorado for all the jokes.
41:48
Speaker 2: The Rockies are thirteen and sixteen. Do you know that
41:51
Speaker 2: last year they were thirteen and fifty five.
41:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were chasing them White Sox for that one
41:57
Speaker 4: to twenty.
41:57
Speaker 1: On June twelfth.
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Speaker 2: I know, but that's how much whatever you want to say.
42:04
Speaker 2: They are much better this not much better. They're better this.
42:07
Speaker 4: Year, better this year.
42:08
Speaker 3: But what the Remember we had what's his name on
42:13
Speaker 3: from Mets up and he said this ten game stretch
42:15
Speaker 3: would make or break the Mets season.
42:18
Speaker 2: So that was Tim Britten from the Athletic came on
42:22
Speaker 2: and said the ten game stretch. They're two and four
42:24
Speaker 2: at home against these teams, and they got swept and.
42:29
Speaker 4: Including as a double header, which is really hard to
42:30
Speaker 4: do it.
42:32
Speaker 1: Yesterday it was a disaster.
42:33
Speaker 2: First of all, I was like, would they score one
42:35
Speaker 2: run in two games? One one run against the Rocky stats? Now,
42:40
Speaker 2: Chase Dolander looks really awesome. All year he looks awesome.
42:45
Speaker 2: He's got a two two five. He had seven shutout inning,
42:47
Speaker 2: seven strikeouts. Sega they removed early in that game. Yesterday
42:51
Speaker 2: he was getting poured on it with booze U. Bantos
42:55
Speaker 2: had a bad air in the first game. McLean was okay,
42:59
Speaker 2: but Kintana eat them. I mean they're making every pitcher
43:01
Speaker 2: look amazing.
43:03
Speaker 1: They can't score.
43:03
Speaker 2: I mean there's a number of issues, but they also
43:06
Speaker 2: just can't score. You scored one run in two games
43:09
Speaker 2: yesterday at home against Colorado, And yeah, I know it's
43:12
Speaker 2: it's a little chili. I was there yesterday and then
43:14
Speaker 2: I flew back this morning. It's a little chilly in
43:16
Speaker 2: New York. Okay, it's not thirty degrees though.
43:19
Speaker 4: Hold for everybody, stop with the weather. Stop with the weather.
43:23
Speaker 1: So what the hell's going on? The whole team just
43:25
Speaker 1: can't hit for a month. Everybody can't hit.
43:29
Speaker 4: Grimace ain't there, ain't there.
43:32
Speaker 2: Grimas was there. They've been doing so that. They've had
43:34
Speaker 2: the happy Grimace. They've had the Grimace. I think they
43:36
Speaker 2: were like, but the.
43:37
Speaker 4: Grimace that's not the same Grimace as a couple of
43:39
Speaker 4: years ago.
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Speaker 2: Woh, Like you need to find the actual dude or
43:42
Speaker 2: dudet that was playing Grimace and put them back in
43:44
Speaker 2: the costume.
43:45
Speaker 4: Oh, they need to bring back on ge. They need
43:47
Speaker 4: to move back the pumpkin, all of it, Pumpkin.
43:50
Speaker 1: Whatever, Jose Glicias, Pee Alonzo.
43:54
Speaker 3: Two soon They're just they're just something something there ain't
43:58
Speaker 3: right and I hate to say it, so it's gonna
44:00
Speaker 3: be mendy and it's not. It's not's not the problem
44:03
Speaker 3: hadn't changed.
44:04
Speaker 1: And then guess what, it's still not going to be right.
44:06
Speaker 5: Hey, good news though in five years they won't have
44:09
Speaker 5: Nemo's contract to worry about.
44:11
Speaker 1: That's good, it's so true. So obsessed with shedding Brandon
44:16
Speaker 1: Nemo's contract. Look what you're doing so far this year?
44:19
Speaker 1: And mc neil, Yeah, McNeil's doing good too.
44:23
Speaker 5: And run prevention. They they have been successful in run prevention,
44:27
Speaker 5: just on the wrong.
44:28
Speaker 4: Side of the ball to themselves. That's what I mean.
44:32
Speaker 4: They prevented themselves from scoring.
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Speaker 2: Brandon Nemo updates still amazing. One forty oh ps plus Kratz.
44:39
Speaker 2: AT's what you got for us on the.
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Speaker 1: Way out.
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Speaker 4: Now podcast crowd. It's a big day for me.
44:46
Speaker 5: The last time the Red Sox were in the in
44:49
Speaker 5: the playoffs on a on a year when they shouldn't
44:52
Speaker 5: have been twenty one when I worked there.
44:56
Speaker 2: I think they've made the playoffs twice since they won
44:58
Speaker 2: the title in twenty eighteen. I'll ride that for a while.
45:00
Speaker 2: Monster Territory was all over it this weekend. You can
45:03
Speaker 2: get this shirt too if you want it. We'll see
45:05
Speaker 2: you on Tuesday.
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Speaker 4: I'll be wearing NASCAR hat with the Red Sox ownership