Latest / The Group Chat / Ep. 20 Scary Enough: Our Accidental Halloween Episode
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- Paulina: Carson, I don't know what was, you know, your idea with with this episode, with the questions, but it came out very Halloweeny, I have to say. Like Carson: You said weenie. Paulina: Yes, I did. Very Halloween Brandon: Yeah Carson: What's up everybody? I'm Carson. Paulina: I'm Paulina. Brandon: And I'm Brandon. I think there's a delay. I think there's a little gap. Carson: Why is there always ten seconds between me me introducing myself? I'm Carson, crickets. Crickets. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: There's a delay or something. Paulina: it's the millennial Carson: Alright, well Paulina: pause. You guys haven't heard about that? Carson: Yeah, we Paulina: No. Carson: we're just on that on that high speed connection, that DSL connection, guys. Blame it on blame it on Starlink. so Brandon: That's a topic. Paulina: We're the group chat, by the way, yeah. Carson: Yeah, that's us. Well you clicked on us so you know like well you know what you're Brandon: Yeah, you should know by now. Carson: looking at Paulina: You're right I know. Carson: If you don't know, now know. Brandon: Now you know. Paulina: Man. So what's good, what's good, what we're doing today. Nothing and everything. Brandon: Just hanging out. Carson: Well let's see. Sunday, quick weekend for me. Worked yesterday in the morning. And now here we are. Fast forward, super fast forward. Sunday evening. We all have to work tomorrow, so we're all just chipper about that. Brandon: Sorry, I might not have the work. Carson: You lucky bastard. Brandon: It depends on how bad it rains tonight. Carson: it's true. It's true. Fingers crossed Paulina: Fingers crossed. I mean, we don't want anybody, Brandon: Nah. Paulina: you know, getting their basement flooded, but like also Brandon: You Paulina: I don't want to wake up early for my doctor's appointment, so Brandon: haha Carson: Hmm. Yeah. The southern, southeastern part of Spain, everybody. When it rains, it floods. And when it floods, nobody can go anywhere. Because it literally floods. It's not like a puddle. I remember my first Brandon: Different. Carson: must have been the first couple months I was there, moved over from the US and I could I I was like, okay, I can't drive to the gym, but maybe I can walk. Maybe I'll find a way to cross, you know, and it was just that I don't know the name of the road, but anyways, the road turned into a river. I decided probably better not to try crossing that on foot for fear of something floating or, you know, being carried downstream, cutting me and yeah. Paulina: So you a kayak, no? And you just Brandon: You Carson: I needed one. I fucking needed one. Yeah. I was just bored to tears at home. This might have no, this wasn't covet time yet, but I just Yeah, like, fuck, I gotta work out. So I tried, turned around, didn't work out. Brandon: Wise decision. Paulina: Get that. Carson: But that that happens every time it rains really hard, that that road floods. It's just you know when you're going home, okay, let's go back the other way, 'cause there's just that's gonna be blocked off. It's not happening. Ain't no way. Brandon: my home. Is that what you're talking about? Carson: Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Elbow Holmes, Brandon: I was thinking here in Moorsfield, but remember, yeah, you lived at the beach. But yeah, no, it's flooded right now. It's completely flooded. Carson: Yup. yeah, that's surprised. Paulina: We we had a mini flood Carson: So yeah. Paulina: happening this afternoon already. Thankfully it went down, but I was really scared that the that the container, the trash container is just gonna tip over at any moment. I was like, fuck, here we go again. But Carson: yeah. Paulina: it was it was fine. Let's see how it is tonight and tomorrow morning. Brandon: think it's an Carson: It's awesome. Brandon: orange alert until six in the morning. Paulina: Mm-hmm. Carson: Yeah, I saw some nasty videos or at least a nasty video from Malaga. I don't know when it was, if that was today or yesterday or whenever whenever they had it, but pretty bad. So common here. Brandon: Barcelona, Barcelona also, think in Mallorca. Basically all in the Mediterranean. Paulina: And now the fucking scariest thing is like you're randomly taking a fucking shower and all of a sudden you hear that loud ass fucking noise from the alert that goes I'm Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: like, how many fucking heart attacks have I had this year because of the fucking alert? But thankfully, you know, we have them now. Carson: They have a like a a loud like a Brandon: Red Alert. Carson: is it a loud siren? Brandon: Yeah, Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: it's on your phone. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: it's on your phone. Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: The last one we were at school, we were leaving school is like right after lunch. And obviously all the phones and all the classrooms went off and of course everyone's cell phone. That was an experience. Carson: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah. I mean good we have them, you know? Carson: Jeez. I haven't heard that. Paulina: Because of what happened in Valencia. What when was it? Last year, two years ago? Two Brandon: Two years ago. Paulina: years ago. So now thankfully we have these alards, but still they're quite fucking annoying with them. Carson: You could just send me a message. I don't need to like Brandon: Just send me a WhatsApp, it's that simple. Paulina: This could this could have been an email. Carson: I mean Yeah, but then it's gonna be like I don't know the sunder, so Brandon: But no, they gotta get your attention. Carson: It's true. It's true. Paulina: Yeah, for sure. Brandon: So were Carson: Five. Brandon: you saying, Carson, before we went off on this tangent? Carson: No idea. No, I have no idea. What was Paulina: Right. Carson: I saying? I was just saying it was flooding. We were talking about the flooding, but I don't Paulina: No, talk about Yeah. Carson: remember before that. Paulina: The gym, the floods, yeah. Just it's pretty shady. Carson: Yeah. Yeah. Paulina: That Brandon doesn't might not have to go to work tomorrow. That's Brandon: see. Tomorrow's a busy day. But no, that's the Paulina: So hopefully you don't have to go to work. Brandon: thing. It's better to go because if not, it's gonna be worse. But I don't know. Paulina: You're gonna have to reschedule that. Yeah. Brandon: Like I said, yeah, three meetings tomorrow. Carson: Go. Let's I'll pray for rain for ya. Yeah. Hoping for rain. Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: Yeah, but then he has to reschedule those meetings. Brandon: Hmm? Paulina: So it's like you win some, you lose some, you know. It's it's not a win win. Brandon: Yeah. Yeah, see. Yeah. No matter- Carson: You know, procrastination I always say procrastination is the key to success, so put it off, put it off, put it off. Brandon: We shall see. Paulina: Wow. What else is good with you guys? Halloween is approaching. Y'all doing something? Carson: Not a damn thing. Brandon: Hahaha Carson: Ha ha ha. Paulina: And this is what I have to fucking deal with on a fucking Sunday night. Brandon: My Sunday night Carson: Mean Brandon: is like every day Paulina: Mm-hmm. Brandon: between our messages Paulina: my god. I'm starting to feel bad for Maria. Carson: So what was the question? Brandon: You Paulina: The question is, Well, Halloween is approaching. What you'll do when for Halloween you do in editing or? Carson: Probably should, but I haven't even thought about it. Honestly, my mom gets into town the day before, so Brandon: Let's go. Carson: Yeah, we sh we oughta do something. Scary enough. Burn. You know, she could watch this. She Paulina: Scary enough, no? I'm just joking, I'm joking. But for me, like whenever my mom would have to visit, she I would be like freaking the fuck out, you know? I'm like, my god, I need to clean, I need to make sure everything is perfect. Like that's the scary part, not my mom herself, just the the amount Brandon: Alright. Carson: I see. I see. Paulina: of cleaning. Carson: True, true, true, true, true. Good good good cover. Nice. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: I was about to hit send to your mom and be like, did you see what your daughter said in the podcast Brandon: Hahaha Carson: episode the other day? She's scared when you visit. You terrify her. You're horrible. Paulina: Nah. Brandon: Scary mamas. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: No, we we oughta do something. You guys have any plans? Brandon: Cool. I don't think so. No, my problem is that Carson: Oof. Look, we all have thriving social lives. Paulina: Clearly. Brandon: I'm planning everything for Halloween activities at school. honestly, when I get finished with this, I don't want to do anything related to Halloween at all. Carson: Fair point, fair point. I get that. What's gonna be what? It's gonna be on a Saturday, isn't it? This year? That's pretty sweet. Paulina: Yeah, yeah. Brandon: Yeah, because Friday is the 30th. Paulina: Yeah. Well Carson: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So yeah, we ought to take advantage. The following Paulina: I Carson: Mondays at Puente, right? Yeah. Brandon: No, not this year. Carson: for for us here in Canadias, it is. Brandon: Ooh, look at you. Carson: So sorry, Paulina, I cut you off. What were you gonna say? Paulina: No no no lucky Brandon: Yeah Paulina: you. Nice nice to have a puente. I don't get those. Yeah. Don't puentes don't exist. Brandon: Point days don't exist for a ton of them. Carson: Right. Right. Paulina: no, I'm we're planning to go to Mini Hollywood in Almería. You guys know where that is, what Carson: Cool. Paulina: what that is? Brandon: Yeah, I mean, I've Carson: No, but I Brandon: never been, but I've seen. Paulina: It's like a theme park. Doesn't have roller coasters. It's literally like a theme park. It's like about westerns and whatever. and it's really cool. I mean, we went I think two years ago or three years ago. We really liked it. It was a lot of fun. obviously we went I think it was like summertime, like I don't know, May or June. So the wet the weather was much better. But there's gonna be like ambience to this, you know, like this aspect of Halloween. They have like some sort of Halloween things put up and like a shalloween show and whatever. all within this like Western vibe. So they have this western like shops, like saloons and whatever. And then they also have like a zoo aspect, which you know, I'm not like a huge fan, but like from what I have seen, they take pretty good care of the animals. Like I haven't seen anything weird and shady. So there is that and then there is like just a lot of nature. It's like very beautiful. Like there's desert, but there is also like like a park that you could actually see like plenty of nature and like beautiful flowers and whatnot. So that's what we're planning to do. We still haven't bought our tickets. We really need to get our shit together and actually buy the tickets and just go. But Yeah, that's that's sort of like our plan. And I'm hoping to actually like dress up a little bit, you know, in like a weird Western but like creepy also style. So let's see if if I can pull that off. Brandon: to like Carson: Cool. Brandon: a zombie cowgirl or something. Paulina: Yes. No, I don't know, I don't know. Like I have a black long skirt, Carson: That's a Paulina: you know? I have my boots and I have like a jean type of like vest. So I'm like maybe I can put something together like that. I don't know. I'll see. I'll send you guys photos if I if I actually go like that. Carson: Nice. Cool. Brandon: Bet. Carson: Sounds fun, sounds festive. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: Something different. Paulina: Yeah, because I feel Carson: We can Paulina: like every year we just stay out. Well, last year we went out for drinks in our hippie costumes. And two years ago, I don't remember what we did. I think we just had like a movie marathon. And then I think three or four years ago we did like a Halloween thing. Carson, I think that was when you were here as well. I don't know how many years ago though. I feel like that was four years ago, about four years ago. If not more. Yeah. Yeah, and we had like a little Halloween night and Carson: Yeah. Three. I think it was three. I was I was just starting to get into cybersecurity and stuff like that. So when I pretty much started studying and all that. So it's three years. Yep, yep, yep. Wow. Paulina: So we really need to like stuff for our game, you know, this year. Carson: yeah. We'll sh yeah, do something. We'll figure out something to do. I mean, like I said, my mom will be here, so try to fill the days with activities. Brandon: Definitely. Paulina: Tem isso. Brandon: Busy, busy times. Carson: I don't know. I mean no. Paulina: Is it her first time visiting in Canary Island? No. Carson: No, she's been here At least she's been here, I wanna say at least twice. Paulina: okay. Carson: I believe she's come twice, at least once for sure, but yeah. We're thinking about Paulina: Okay. Carson: going back to the states after Christmas. But there's a lot of bureaucracy between now and then, so we'll see what happens. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: I actually yeah, I have to I'm applying for my I I have a bureaucracy process in Spain and she has one in the US. So fun stuff. Paulina: Hmm. Brandon: Good luck with that. Carson: Thank you. You guys know how that is, so I will not go into detail. Brandon: Animo! Paulina: Yeah. Okay. Carson: Yes. All we can do is wait at this point and hope that yeah. Paulina: It sorts itself out, yeah. Carson: Yeah, just don't ask more documents, please. Don't ask for more sh what what? Brandon: Who's gonna get a response first? Carson: Hmm. Yeah, I don't know. It's a toss up. It's it really is, Paulina: She's Carson: because they have two months to respond to hers and up to three months for mine. So you never know. I imagine I'll hear mine first, cause yeah. Brandon: Really? Carson: Cause I'm awesome. No, I meant that I meant to Paulina: All right, well Brandon: You Carson: say I'm lucky. But no, I've f I'm full of shit. Who knows? Paulina: Mm-hmm. Brandon: We shall see. Carson: But, anyways, how do you guys feel about the death penalty? Paulina: All right, well not the just took that one out of your ass. Brandon: Speaking of Halloween... Carson: Okay, well let me preface that with saying that literally today heard that the first woman in history, or I think the first person, survived lethal injection. I think they'd give her two doses, or it was either on two different occasions. You heard about it? Okay, so good. All right, right. Brandon: In Tennessee. Yeah, that was it's Tennessee. Carson: Yeah, ten a key. Paulina: Brendan is so proud of that. He's like, Yeah. Tennessee, yeah. Brandon: Yeah, no, that's what that's like all my students like You saw the delt put Carson: Like I mean he's got Knoxville, he's rapping over here. Brandon: it in like Tennessee. I was like of all the things to associate with Tennessee. Don't don't do that, please Carson: But motherfucker survived. Paulina: Mm. Brandon: and Paulina: Like how the Brandon: finish. Paulina: fuck do you survive that, you know? Brandon: because they did it incorrectly. They didn't inject her in her vein. It just went into her arm. Paulina: Ha ha. Carson: less what, just in the muscle? Like not Brandon: She was telling them, like, my arm is burning. Like, should my arm be burning? Carson: It you Paulina: Okay. Carson: had one job, literally. Probably Brandon: Exactly. Carson: you had one job. This is what you do. And just hire somebody who's never done this. I mean Brandon: But I also heard about that. I don't know, some friends or someone was telling me that like the actual companies that make the make the whatever it is that they inject into, they're against the death penalty. So they don't want to do it. So they have the the governments have to get the injection from other people. And then no one actually wants to do it. So they hire basically, as you said, they hire like some random people to come in and do it. People that aren't nurses and Carson: okay. So it is competence. Brandon: And look what happens. Paulina: Whoa. Carson: Boy boy. Well Brandon: And this is all because everyone's against it, but they want to have it. They want to keep it. So. Carson: This is crazy. So what what are our thoughts? I mean, I asked that question seriously. Like I wanna know what your opinion is of the death penalty. Is there a time and place? Should it not exist? Is it barbaric? Paulina: What was she mm accused of? Like what was she charged with? That is my question, 'cause I like I have heard of the story, but I haven't actually like read too much about it. Brandon: So I think it was mid 90s, mid to late 90s, her and her boyfriend basically killed this girl, like a night hero woman. And like, it was like brutal. Like they, it was like, they stabbed her to death and like, carved like satanic symbols into her and like somehow they broke her skull and like she kept a piece of her skull and yeah, exactly. Carson: Like showing it to friends and stuff. Brandon: It was strange. Paulina: Okay. Fucking brutal. Okay, yeah. Brandon: Yeah. Carson: So d should she die for that? Paulina: I mean a part of me wants to say talking Brandon: Me person, okay. Paulina: eye for an eye, but go ahead, Brandon. I'll Brandon: Nah, me personally, I don't think we have the right to decide who lives or dies. And I'm against the death penalty. I mean, there's things that are horrible, for example, this and things that are much worse also, but I don't know. I don't think for me, I don't think you, we have the right or the decision to say you live or you die or that's it. Paulina: Yeah. I I sort of wanna add on to that. Like a part of me wants to say an eye for an eye, you know, but at the same time it's like I think person personally, I have never been to prison, but I think rotting in fucking prison in a prison cell is much worse than just getting an injection and passing away, so to say, peacefully. Right? Carson: Easy way out. Paulina: Yeah. So I think people should technically rot in jail for their fucking horrible, horrible crimes. I also know that sometimes people, you know, get put in jail for crimes that they didn't commit. But if here we have very, very clear fucking evidence that it was her or I don't know, let's say a person like, I don't know, Jesse Jeffrey Dahmer or Ted Bundy or whatever, like if there is very clear evidence, mm I don't think they should be getting fucking lethal injection. They should be rotten and in jail and going to hell, let's put it this way. But yeah. I I I don't think like Carson you said, it's sort of a easy way out. Carson: Okay. Well I like what both of you said because I think there's kind of truth in all that and some and more, of course, and other opinions. So first I'll address Brandon's in saying that I agree. How can we begin to Brandon: Church. Carson: Just assume that kind of responsibility for one. I mean, it nobody wants that. Obviously, nobody wants to be the one deciding this. And really. Yeah, it's it seems just wrong to do to make that decision that you'd think somebody else should die for what they did. But an eye for an eye, Paulina. That could be, of course, obviously taking their lives. You know, there's the argument that the longer they're in jail, the more taxpayer dollars go towards keeping this person alive. I mean, they're not working, they're not contributing to society. That is a space issue at some point. There's not as there's not as much space in in prisons to keep people alive. I mean, that could be an argument. Obviously, I don't know the details, the ins and outs. I don't have the numbers. But I know that that is an argument for for the death penalty. It is costly to keep people alive who are not contributing economically to our society, to our world. So yeah, I mean Brandon: They also get healthcare. Something that's not guaranteed outside. Carson: It's it's there there's it's Paulina: And a free gin. Carson: and they're not isolated, they do have people to talk to. So I mean their lives, yeah, they're you like you said though, I like what you said about suffering. I mean you didn't I don't think you said literally suffering, but you prefer that the people who should suffer suffer and not have the easy way out. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: and that much I agree with. I will say honestly that. And maybe I don't haven't really processed it. But it just it's my my knee jerk reaction, I guess. Like there are some cases, there are certain crimes that are just unforgivable. And honestly, I part of me feels like there is no place in the world for these these people who make these this you know, types of choices to take other people's lives. I mean, but then again, are you making it right by taking the life of somebody who decides that there are other lives worth taking? Is it Is that how you solve the problem? Don't think so. So it's not killing them that's the answer, but it's certainly not us being responsible for them financially that is the answer as well. So we have to find, you know, there has to be some kind of happy medium. Happy. yeah, Paulina: Yeah. Carson: it's an interesting conundrum because man, yeah, these I don't want these people to be out and about, you know. We Paulina: Of course not. Carson: you We were talking earlier about the gang initiation. These are people who are trying to fit into a gang and they have to do unthinkable things, right? They have to commit crimes in front of the people who are currently gang members, in order to be accepted, in order to say, like, okay, you do have the balls, right, to take a life or to injure a random innocent bystander. Like there are people, unfortunately, in this world who you know, we can have the argument of are they evil or do they do evil things? But we don't obviously want that. We put them away and we put you in a box. And yes, I think suffering is in order. For how long? For a lifetime? Or is it just mathematically more feasible to remove them from the living humans that we have to support? Because in the end we're all here for each other, we all impact one another. You Paulina: Yeah. Carson: know, those of us who are working and and living and And not killing each other. Paulina: Yeah. what I wanted to add is that yes, this aspect of like suffering, but many of them, you know, as as you guys said, like, you know, there's this free healthcare and whatever, free gym and like other bullshit. Obviously, there's prison is not a place you want to fucking be. But at the same time, those people, mm, let's say they get a fucking life sentence. They could still end it. If they really do not want to be there, they can end it. Maybe it's not Yeah. Yeah. You know, like Carson: And their lives. And their own lives you're saying. Yeah. Well and and it happens, sure. Paulina: to to not so to say have this suffering, you know. and it's that thing, it's like, then is it better that they ended their own lives, or is it better that you know we immediately just and you know, and they cost us so to say money or tax taxpayers' money? Or is it better that we just, you know, give them the injection and that's it? Like then it's like like should we play God? Or should they should they play God? You know? It's like it's their lives. So yeah. Brandon: I think I want to say that even with this case, I think the lady's name is Christy Pipe. It was like over 30 years ago or about 30 years ago. So it's not anything that's like you kill someone and then like two years later, it's a death penalty. It takes decades. So it's a long Carson: This is Brandon: time before anything actually happens. Carson: This also grinds Paulina: Mm-hmm. Carson: my gears, yes. Paulina: Yeah. And there are people Carson: Rot Paulina: sitting there on death row, like waiting, you know, for their for the chair or for the injection. And They're just sitting there, waiting. Carson: That's a this is a tough one. Paulina: It is. Carson: It's it's it's weird that it's a tough one. It's weird that it's a tough argument for or against a life. And and it it is also refreshing that's a tough argument because if it weren't a tough argument and you're just a psychopath and you'd say yes or no, like cleanly, then maybe we'd have some questions about your sanity or your like Paulina: Like you're off the podcast. Carson: Well that's talking about us, but okay. Paulina: Yeah. And then Carson just goes through, Yeah, well definitely it should it definitely should happen. And we're like, Carson? All right. Carson: But hey, okay, let's take it a step further, right? Not a step further, but kind of a sidestep into other just Paulina: With the Carson: phenomena, specifically in the US. So I know in some states, if somebody breaks into your house, you can kill them without question, right? If they're intruding, you could just kill them. And then others, I don't know if it's Florida or Georgia, you can kill them, even if they're still in your lawn, if they're on your property, like if they haven't even Brandon: Stand your ground. Carson: it's so where is that? Which state is that? Brandon: Stand your ground. no, it's of course all Carson: Or is that federal? Brandon: in the South, maybe it depends on the states, Carson: Yeah. Brandon: but I think in all this, all the states Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: in the South, they have the stand your ground where it allows you to shoot freely. Carson: Even in the while they're still in your yard. Brandon: Yeah, as long as it's your property, I believe so. Once again, I'm not sure, but... Carson: So what happens if you shoot them while they're running, they're in the yard when you shoot them, when the bullet makes contact with the body, but then the body falls into the sidewalk. Did you stand Brandon: Okay. Carson: your ground or did you murder them in cold blood? Paulina: Yeah. Good question. Exactly. Brandon: That's what they go to court for. Carson: I'm sorry. I feel just like it does have it's one of those things where it has to be case by case. When you put this blanket statement or like this in all scenarios is acceptable and okay. it's really hard to defend that when there's so many different, you know, s I guess variables that can that could change from one case to case, from one case to another. I don't know. What about that? Should you be able to shoot like shoot somebody with a gun? I mean, we didn't say, Okay, just punch them in the face, knock down, and you know, whatever, maybe they accidentally die. I mean, we're talking about use a gun to shoot a human if they break into your house. Seems a little extreme, personally. But also, ph you got kids, Brandon: I think you have to have, I think you have to have. Carson: like I'm fucking I'm shooting if I have a gun. I'll tell you what. Brandon: You have to have some sort of proof that you gave them the opportunity to turn around and leave or something. then if they, if not, well, then they're decision, guess in the U S there's a story here. Well, a couple of stories here in Spain, there's a few years ago, probably about the time you all came to Spain, but like this guy's maybe in his mid sixties, late sixties, someone broke into his house. I think he was out on a farm or something like that. And he, he shot the guy. And he didn't go into prison because there's like, I guess there was no proof that they were doing something wrong. It's like you have to, someone here in Spain, like if someone breaks into your property, but first you have to call the police or something like you just can't shoot them. It's not like in the U S it's like you have to give them the option to get off or get off of your property. But he's like, no, he breaks in. Like you say, you have kids or whatever, your wife, your husband, whatever, someone's breaking in and you want to protect your family. Sometimes you can't call the police and wait for someone to come, especially if you're out in the middle of nowhere. Paulina: Yeah, but also Carson: Shoot first, ask questions later. Brandon: Wait. Paulina: Also, this aspect, okay, shooting. Are we talking about shooting to actually kill or shooting to scare somebody off? Right? Like that's also because if Brandon: I dunno. Paulina: you shoot shoot them, I don't know, in in their fucking hand, I don't know, that's probably very difficult to do. But if you shoot them in their arm, right? Brandon: Yeah. Carson: If you're a really good shot and you're aiming for it, okay. Paulina: versus in the chest, then that I think that's a very different scenario. Carson: I think we're talking about the cases where people shoot and kill. Cause obviously if you shoot somebody and injure them and they broke into your house, I think the law would be a lot more lenient toward the shooter than if you were to kill them. It becomes this really big issue, obviously, when a life is lost. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: But I don't think a lot of times I mean depends on the person. Whose house did you break into? Is this a former marksman? Like did he serve Military or is this some, you know, citizen Brandon: Exactly. Carson: who's just, you know, going to the gun range every few months or hasn't been in a year and maybe doesn't really know how to aim it. Plus, I mean adrenaline, you somebody's breaking in your house, you think you gotta have some like some kind of training to really know where you're shooting. I think you're probably just trying to defend yourself, you fire off one or two shots and hopefully you scare them, but the chance of killing somebody, it's not that hard to kill somebody. I mean It's just a lot of accidents can happen, you know. Paulina: True. I don't know. I mean It is self defense on one hand, but at the same time Carson: What if he just wants some sugar or some milk? He just came over. He's like, hey man, I didn't I rang the doorbell, it's not working, and I just wanted to break into your house to ask you something. Who can prove that? Paulina: Well, okay, it's a difference of Brandon: At four o'clock in the morning. Paulina: it's a difference if somebody actually rings my doorbell and actually wants something from my house or if it's if they're breaking in. Carson: Yeah, but what if what if he tried? What if he said he tried? Paulina: What do you mean tried? To to ring the doorbell? Carson: I'm just saying, this whole this whole like you have to have proof. It's like how am I gonna have proof unless I have cameras with audio and twenty four seven recording? It's gonna be has to be this person's word against the others. And then obviously one's dead, so you're hearing one side of story. Brandon: see it. That's the thing. Now in the US everyone has the ring cameras. So they actually do have that where it's always recording all the time. Well, yeah, but that's the thing. If they're outside Carson: But that's on the outside. That's like the the front door, right? Brandon: trying to get in, yeah. Carson: Okay, so somebody broke in, but you don't see anything past that. You just have to take somebody's word for it. Brandon: But once again, if they're inside your house, that means that it broke in, you didn't let them in. So whether you have, I don't know, imagine in court. Carson: So if somebody breaks into your house, can you kill them? Brandon: In some states, In the stand your ground states, yes. Carson: What do you think about that? Paulina: I wouldn't necessarily go as far as like, okay, let's kill this person. Like first of all, I don't I don't I don't own a gun. I don't go shooting. I don't go to shooting rangers. Like for me, like I don't know what type of aim I would have. Right? So there is this like, okay, if that happened in my house, let's say I live in the States, it's I don't know. It's it's a very difficult question because on one hand, like you might not be trying to kill them. That's another thing. Like Carson: Right, right, right. I mean I I think it's just like scare you, get out of my house, like Paulina: Why do you need a gun in the first place? Just like take a fucking baseball bat. Carson: Hey, what if the dude who breaks into your house is a beast? And although you've been going to the gym and you've been getting your reps in and you're making all the gains and you feel good about yourself. Paulina: Kneecap, that's it. Go for a kneecap. Carson: You don't know if this person is gonna pick you up and throw you through the window. Brandon: Exactly. Carson: You don't know who you're dealing with. It's not like, let's size this person up, turn on the lights. Okay, he's about 6'3, 180. I think I could take him. You Paulina: Mm-hmm. Carson: know, like it's not I don't think it's like that. You just, you know. I God. I say, somebody breaks into your house. And as long as you don't mutilate them, fuck you. Brandon: You Carson: Seriously, fuck you. I mean, it's how your home, it's your home, it's your space. Like it's your property. Brandon: Is that good? Carson: you have every right to defend it. The property and the people inside of it. That's how I see it. And shooting somebody when they're running away in your yard, I don't don't agree. Brandon: Well, yeah, that's obviously. Carson: But if they're in your house and you didn't invite them in, I think your word is enough for me, if there's proof that they indeed broke in. Paulina: And then g let me ask this question. Goes even further. Back in the days, a lot of people left their doors open, right? Brandon: Definitely. Paulina: Is it then breaking in if the doors and windows were left open? I don't know. I I don't know legally if it would be considered breaking, Carson: For me it is. Paulina: but Brandon: It is, it is. only thing is that if it was unlocked, you made it easier for them to get in, but it's still like they're outside of your property Carson: That's on you. Brandon: and they come into your property. Paulina: Okay. I'm just curious. I don't know how we're Brandon: I think, I don't know. Carson: That's how I see it too. No, you weren't invited, you don't own this space. You're not allowed in, even if it's not like a store, you know, doors open, come in. This is somebody's private residence, you know. Sign or not. But yeah, I mean it's obviously stupid on the owner for leaving the fucking door unlocked. Paulina: Course. Carson: I'm not gonna feel bad for you if something gets stolen. Brandon: Thanks for Carson: Like, that's on you, man. I've left shit in my car, I've had it broken into. I can't really be too pissed off about the world. I'm angry about losing my things, but whose fault was it for making it visible? Mine. But yeah, it's a good question for sure. Good point. Brandon: Exactly. Paulina: Just hear the fucking motorcycle that's it. Carson: Somebody just somebody just stole a motorcycle. Paulina: man. Carson, you're you're on a roll of questions today, but Yeah. Brandon: All right, so now I have a question. I have a question. So obviously we're here in Spain, but if we were in the U.S., would you all have a gun to protect yourself? Paulina: I don't think so. Carson: Time. Brandon: Media. Carson: If I but take it a step further if you had children in the house and you lived in a place like where it could happen, which is almost anywhere in the US. But Brandon: Okay. Carson: you know, would it change things for you if you had kids in the house? Brandon: I see. At least for me, yeah. I think you have to figure Carson: For me. Brandon: out, okay, well you have to find some way to protect yourself. But then if there's kids, how? I don't know what I would do if I would have a gun, but I don't think so. But you have to be able to protect yourself and your family. Carson: I I agree. Paulina, what do you think? Paulina: I don't know, I I'm I don't I don't think about children, so Brandon: She's from New York. on. See Paulina jump out with a 12 gauge. Paulina: Say hello to my little friend. Brandon: Yeah Carson: She says she's Polish, but I think she's Russian. Brandon: The AK. Paulina: Honestly, I don't know. I mean Would it really make it that much of a difference? I feel like if somebody breaks in, they already know what they're going for. Like a part of me things that It it's not so easy to really hear. I don't know. I never had my house broken into fucking knock on wood, but I don't think you can it's that easy to hear, right? And I feel like very often those people know where they need to go. So would it make make things easier or more difficult? Let's say they specifically break into the kids' room for whatever reason, right? And You go in there because you hear a sound, you hear the kid screaming, whatever the fucking thing is, you walk in there holding a gun. Would that make the situation better or worse? Right? Would you shoot immediately? Would be your initial response to shoot immediately. What if they're holding a gun to your kid's head? Right? Then, like, how quickly, how can those things escalate? Carson: Yeah, I don't I wouldn't wanna have Paulina: Yeah, I know. Carson: it if I wa if I didn't trust myself with it. If I didn't trust myself Paulina: Exactly. Carson: with the gun to I don't even think it's about having the gun, I think it's just if you were Well yeah, it is about having the gun obviously, but In that s in that specific situation, if they're in my kids' room and I hear shit popping off, I'm not gonna go in there popping off rounds. I'm gonna turn the light on and see what the deal is. And if it's a matter of me putting my gun so my child is let go, then that's obviously what I would do. I'm gonna try being a hero. But yeah, it's I think it's it just comes down to being a a a gun as a tool for defense if you don't have the physical means on your own to handle yourself. So it's an extension of strength. It's power for the people who don't have as much physical strength as the person who's, you know, obviously breaking into the house. ideally, yes, you'd, you know, use some blunt instrument to knock them over the head. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: But we have to remember that a weapon can also be turned on the on the user, you know. So a Brandon: Definitely. Carson: gun is a little bit faster and you keep some distance than if you're you Brandon: Distance, yeah. Carson: you know, yeah, you don't wanna start using a knife on somebody who's two times your size and ha and twice as fast. It's it's gonna end badly for you. Brandon: or like you said, like having a bat, to use a bat you have to get close. Like you said, you're going up against some giant, well, that might not work. Paulina: Yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't think I would have I don't think I would have a gun. Brandon: Carson comes through. Carson: Yeah. Paulina: I think for me it's Carson: She's like brass knuckles all the way, baby. Let's go. Brooklyn. Brandon: New York! Paulina: then. All right. Brandon: You Carson: All right. Paulina: Well Carson: So from Halloween to gun violence and the death penalty. If you guys didn't know what you're getting into today, did you? Paulina: No, they're not, no. Brandon: Actually, I want to go back to the death penalty. Carson: Alright, what All right, let's keep it dark, Paulina: All right. Carson: Brent. Paulina: I hope. Brandon: So, don't know. I can't remember if it was Trump. No, it wasn't Trump. was Hexeth. So the Carson: Ha. Brandon: Fort Hood shooter. So the guy that was on the military base in Texas. I think it was probably about 10, 15 years ago that he got on campus onto the military base. I actually think he was military and he killed a bunch of soldiers. And I think Hexeth, I don't know if it was this week or last week, said that he wanted to have was it a firing squad for him and not only it was going to be a firing squad, but he was going to to stream it Carson: Live stream. Brandon: a live stream. Yes. Carson: Yeah. This is the people the peop Brandon: Thoughts and comments on that? Carson: Heg's death. I mean Heg's death. Brandon: Pauline is still processing everything. Paulina: Yeah, like wait, wait, wait, you're talking about like a public execution. Brandon: Exactly. Carson: Yes. Paulina: All right, we're Carson: Yes. Paulina: going way back in time, okay. Brandon: This is what our Carson: That's Brandon: Secretary of Defense, or no, Secretary of War, that's his typo now, is proposing. Carson: Just wanna know how big this guy's ego is. Paulina: Alright, well I'm I'm just gonna leave it on no comment because I don't I don't like I'm just thinking Carson: No comment, huh? Paulina: like, yo, are we good like what is this? The fucking sixteenth century? The hanging of the fucking witches? Like Carson: I just have to say That that headline should have surprised me and should have shocked me. Brandon: Good. Carson: But as a person, human living today in 2026 with the utterly insane headlines that we read on a daily basis, I'm just not surprised. Brandon: every single day. Carson: I'm just not surprised that somebody would be so cold to the world. I mean, to to think that that would have some benefit. Or to have any effect that would benefit the United States. Or yeah, just why? Why is that necessary? I know people do evil things, but you live streaming it? Say that you carried out justice because you are the law and you are the Lord of humans and you decide who lives and dies. What is in a firing squad, huh? How many bullets are being fired? Because I wanna know, because that's money that we're paying. Brandon: I think there's only one gun that has an actual bullet. Carson: yeah, they're gonna do that. They're gonna do that story now? Brandon: I think that's what it was. But I imagine, once again, what Pete Haig said, he said, no, everyone's going to have real bullets. Everyone's going have AK-47s. And you're going to have to empty the clip. Carson: This guy's a fucking tool, I tell you what. I don't know who's worse, Trump or that motherfucker. Seriously. This guy's Yeah, I said it. I know you guys might be Trump supporters, but he's a He's an idiot. He's an idiot and he's dangerous. Brandon: Ayyy. Carson: And it's one thing to be an idiot idiot, but Paulina: To be a dangerous idiot, that's that's a whole different level. Brandon: with power, all the power. Carson: Yeah. Put him in power. but okay. Firing squad, it's one thing to do it, it's another thing to talk about it and then it'll be preposterous idea to live stream it is what I can say. Am I surprised that they're gonna do the firing squad? Am I surprised they want to execute this person? No. And should they be executed? Probably. That's if you believe in the death penalty for one. So I mean it's just the boldness, the audacity to to fill my feed with this bullshit. I mean Look, you're stepping on so many so many eggshells. Like you're some people are not even okay with the death penalty, for one. Secondly, it's not a lethal injection, it's a firing squad. And thirdly, you want to live stream it. What is wrong with you, man? You have to be ashamed. I can never like I have fucked up my life. You know what? I said things, I've done things, I've hurt people, I've hurt myself. But you do something like that? How can you look back on your life and say that was a good idea? Just quit while you're ahead. Just go ahead and imp impeach yourself. Like fire reverse firing squad yourself, please, because you're fucking idiots. Paulina: Reverse, you know. Carson: Reverse yourself, bro. Brandon: Alright. Paulina: Yeah. Carson: that's so that's how I feel. Paulina: fuck. Yeah, I mean I think Carson you just nailed it. Like I think that's it. Like I I I don't know what else to add to that. Like Carson: Just just bro, just put your head down and be like, yeah, that was a that was a bad idea, guys. I'm sorry. Brandon: You Carson: Public apology, please? No, he won't do that. There's no ownership. Brandon: Yeah, right. Carson: Trump will never do it. I'm perfect. I'm great. I'm not Ceno. Embarrassed. Just embarrassed. Don't embarrass my country. Don't embarrass my people. Don't embarrass humanity. Like, you're a disgrace. Fuck yourself. Paulina: We'll read for now. Carson: It's gonna be a rough episode, sir guys. Brandon: Alright. Paulina: Damn. People are just gonna like people Carson: No, I just I'm fucking over it. I'm over it. Brandon: I mean... Paulina: are just gonna be like, come out of this like fucking depressed us fuck, like Carson: It's not like that. No, it's not like that. It's the all the opposite. It's just don't tolerate bullshit and and don't sugarcoat it. There's no sometimes Brandon: It's the reality. Carson: there's no redemption for some people, and that doesn't mean taking their lives. I just mean there's some shit that you can't come back from where you shouldn't. You shouldn't. And yet some shit stands. It just all right. New headline. AI's taking over the world. let's be scared about that. Okay, great. Distraction. Distraction. 40 hours, 50 hours, you work. You can't do shit. Reality. Brandon: A lot of distractions, a of distractions. Paulina: Anything like on the brighter side or like Carson: Next question. Next question. Brandon: I'm sure Karsten has one. Paulina: fuck. Carson: I got questions, man. fucking hell. I'm I'm all ears, guys. Please. Brandon: Okay. Paulina: Here's Brandon: Go for it. Paulina: Can ask for the question? Carson: Okay. Well I c I mentioned AI just now, so then it got me thinking. I think it's kind of funny. This is this is probably fucked up. This is probably fucked up. I think it's Brandon: Alright, here we go. Carson: kind of funny how all the AI employees are quitting and then they're going on Jon Stewart and they're going on these talk shows and they're sitting in front of Congress and they're saying the same thing essentially that the CEOs are now. The CEOs are like, Ooh, we can just do the same thing this those employees of ours that they've been quitting. We do the same thing they do. The government's just gonna be like, wait, who's to blame here? What's what should we take seriously? I mean, I don't think anybody's I mean, how do you not see it? I mean We're really building something. This is what this is our job, right? We build a thing to make it better. There's that's what they do. Their technology is built to improve and improve and work better for you. It does the things that you don't want to do and does better than you. And they want to make that better. And they want to improve its capabilities so it can do more than you and then more than you and eventually replace you as an intelligent creature on this earth. contributing to society. So at some point, obviously, if you improve the thing and give it more knowledge all the smartest humans combined. And you're the one saying we need to focus on safety. It's like motherfucker, you are in control of hiring people. Don't hire people who just make the thing better. Hire equal numbers of people who are gonna make the thing safer. Don't sit here and tell me that you, the government, you the people, need to do the thing. Like I'm not the one with billions of dollars, bro. Run your company. You have you have a right. You I mean you have the right to your company. Okay, great, but that means you also have the responsibility to keep humans safe. You start killing people, one person dies from it. Like most companies never make that. Never make it past that. Like that that ruins companies. Yeah, it's just it's laughable. I mean, fucking sit here and tell me that asking for help. Like you're control of this shit. This shit wouldn't exist without you. Don't tell me though we don't know how to stop it from doing what it does. If you can't stop it from doing what it does, okay, pull the plug, dial it back, send us some stupid model from a year ago. My life would be fine. Human beings wouldn't be at risk. And we could figure out how to do this whole work thing and money thing before we have a superintelligence that takes all of our jobs, literally. So what's the priority here? Nobody's sitting here begging like I need AGI, I need superintelligence now, give it to me now. We wanna just, you know, continue to be humans and survive, so I'm just so sick of the bullshit. I don't know how y'all feel about that, but Or have you seen these? Have you seen these people speaking out? It's like they're all saying the same thing, literally the same. Paulina: I have seen a couple of headlines. I haven't really sat down to read it because I'm just so like tired of seeing shit news all the time and just getting depressed about and it's like, bro, like and it's literally as you said, it's the same thing. It's like one day you see this CEO of whatever company talking about this, another CEO asking for another help. It's like, bro, you're you're the fucking millionaire, billionaire. Like, what am I s like just me checking? How the fuck you spell one word versus another or whatever? Like, is not gonna fucking make a difference. And then them saying like, and these flyers are warming up the earth and all of these AI flies, and it's like, bro, then why the fuck did you even start this project if apparently me making a fucking flyer is gonna warm up the fucking earth? Like It's frustrating because you're just like, What what am I supposed to do? Should I just sit back and just watch the fucking world burn? Or should I continue making my flyer? Should I continue doing something else or not? Like and it's control. It's control. At the end of the day, it comes down to this fucking control and they're playing us like puppets. Like they're telling us this and many people will, you know, follow. Carson: Look here, look here, look here. Over here is like where everything's Brandon: You Carson: happening, right? But look here, hey, hey guys. Brandon: All right. Paulina: Yeah. So I I Carson: Real Paulina: just Carson: dude. Paulina: honestly like I step aside because I'm like, it's too much fucking information that I don't even half of the fucking words that I'm reading, I'm like, I don't even understand. Like, I need a fucking AI translation of this because I don't fucking understand what I'm reading. maybe I'm just dumb and competent to litter or whatever, but I'm like, you're throwing out phrases that I'm like, I have no clue what this phrase is, what this means. Okay, let me check her w AI. And it's like it's a fucking loop. It's like, bro, what what am I supposed to be doing? So I just stay from it. Yeah. Carson: Language is changing, yeah, quickly. You're right. That's a good point. I didn't even I mean it com I kind of feel like I'm in the in the world a little bit studying tech and stuff. So I the vocabulary, yes, I get it mostly, but there are there are a lot of changes. You're right. Sometimes you're reading like, but what is that exactly that acronym? There's like a million acronyms on top of Yeah, it's and it's wild. Huh. Brandon: There's also so many levels to this. Like you think in reality, like what we do is like the bottom level usage of AI, but there's people, there's companies that have like massive computers and systems that do things that we can't even imagine. Carson: Huh. Brandon: So yeah, so all these things, like you said, we're warming up the earth and everything. think, I think your flyer is going to be okay. You can continue to make the flyers, but it's the people who have these massive systems that like the equivalent of, I don't know, tens of thousands of employees. Well, that's what's going to be doing the damage and all the data centers and things like that. Paulina: It's like making us fucking feel guilty. Like I literally have seen people on Instagram being like, my god, stop making AI flyers. You're warming up the earth. I'm like like us making a fucking AI flour flyer is like the least of anybody's fucking concern. Like exactly what Brandon were you're saying. It's like people have all of these fucking companies just using AI for god knows what. Carson: Mm-hmm. And and get this, right? The whole thing is we gotta beat China. We gotta beat China that we gotta push ahead. That's why AI is just like they're like as fast as we can fucking get it, we're gonna get it. Because if China gets it, bad shit. we can go into that, but I Paulina: Yeah. Carson: would just like to say that if warfare is And will well, not if, but when warfare is affected by AI and AI has the capability that we expect it to. Because I think everybody is aware that there's really no world without AI at this point. It's just a matter of can we control it before it gets that capable? that that that determines obviously if we survive. I mean, obviously not just how we survive, but well, okay, how we survive, how we How we continue if we continue. But the idea is that, okay, so infrastructure, AI infrastructure, data centers. Yes. Okay. Very important to well, not just AI itself, but then just communication systems of the internet. And so, all right, we're building these data centers where and residential areas. I mean, closer, close enough Paulina: In space currently. Carson: to residential areas. These places become targets, these become military targets, right? They're not just information centers. They are control centers, command centers. You take out this, you reduce the country's ability to communicate. It doesn't matter how many weapons you have if you can't talk to each other. You don't know where to shoot. You don't know where they're coming from if you can't talk to each other. Right? So that's the other thing. It's like I I do remember hearing Elon Musk saying, We should put the data centers, we should put everything in space, right? It solves the the heating issue, the cooling issue. Of course, now it's just a matter of the cost. In other words, the bureaucracy of getting the material up into space and enough of it to it be able to actually like use. Enough that would, you know, be able to serve the our purposes here on earth. but bro, it's like you don't even know. Like you're rushing into a war and you're creating targets in our backyards and we have no choice in this, and these companies just get to do what they want, and the government's not like Hey, this is a matter of human safety, not just American safety. American safety. it's just a matter of right, if we do it, then everybody else is gonna do it eventually because they feel they have to, because it's like, okay, they have a gun that's better than mine. They have shield that's better than mine. So i if at some point you have no defense, then everybody else wants to build up their defense so they can hold their own. So everybody has AI, and why? What Right. And they need they drink all our water too. Apparently the AIs are thirsty. Paulina: Mm-hmm. Brandon: Alright. Paulina: no. It's Carson: Fun times, twenty twenty six. Yeah, we thought the pandemic was Brandon: Yeah! Carson: gonna be the peak, but you know. Paulina: Here we are. Let's see what happens in twenty twenty seven. Brandon: Humanity is like, Carson: Or like Brandon: my beer. Carson: Shit, shit just gets my bear, bro. Got something. I'm just thinking, Paulina: Mm-hmm. Carson: you know, okay, instead of all the fear stuff, we we turn that around. Imagine you wake up tomorrow and all the headlines go from AI fear and we can't control it. you know, your your home devices are gonna have worms and they're gonna self-replicate until we got up tomorrow and they're like, okay. No more the AI companies came out and they said. No more capability progress until we get things in check. And they took it seriously and they published all the papers and all the safety findings and all the issues they found and all the cases they that AI breached and broke into places or manipulated infrastructure, blah, blah, blah. All that was made clear. Years go by. We don't really have maybe. I mean, if you think about it realistically, if we really focused on safety, maybe within a year or two, we could get to the point where we could start going, you know. And lockstep safety, a capability, safety checks, capability, safety checks. Enough to the point where they would know how far to leap ahead safely without you know putting us in further danger to check it and build all the security and safety around it before going up to the next level. But I don't think we're even there yet. I think everybody says, and this is probably true with all technology, it's just the stakes haven't been so high with like a fucking laptop or a microwave or a cell phone. Whereas the stakes with this technology are like, it could very well end badly since everything is connected, everything is electronic, Brandon: Exactly. Carson: and AI is already, you know, competing and and solving math problems that nobody knows about. Well, if it can do that, well then it starts understanding physics and the laws of nature and how to run our planet better. And yeah, then we have a real problem on our hands. So I mean it it's like, don't give me the shit. Like you're asking for help. Like you guys are the ones who are responsible for providing the help. The service should come with a this isn't gonna kill me clause. Sorry. But no. Yeah. Paulina: Yeah. What a disclaimer warning. Carson: This friend you're talking to, this machine you're talking to might eventually one day kill you. Okay, put that on there. Make sure everybody knows what they're getting into, Brandon: Disclaimer. Carson: but Paulina: Yeah. Carson: and and just for real, like fix your shit. Find another way to make money, make it more available. I don't know what to tell you. I'm not a business person. But Brandon: But like you said, it's not going anywhere. It's here, and so now that it's here, we have to deal with it. Everyone's gonna have to deal with it and see how it progresses. hopefully in a positive manner. Carson: I think it could go Paulina: This is something. Carson: very well. Paulina: This is such a Halloween episode, we're talking about all the scary shit. Like Carson, I don't know what was, you know, your idea with with this episode, with the questions, but it came out very Halloweeny, I have to say. Like Carson: You said weenie. Paulina: Yes, I did. Very Halloween y. I'll say that again. Carson: You're so fucking immature. Paulina: but on the on a little bit brighter note, do you guys have any fun actually like Halloween stories? Like, come on. Like, I'm here like trying to live my life peacefully with Halloween stories, you know, getting ready while watching we're watching while watching the Sopranos. Not very Halloween, but it gets the the Brandon: Could be. Paulina: pr i a little bit You know, it has that little bit of that depressing vibe, you know, a little bit spooky, like mobs and shit. But mmm Yeah, I wanna I wanna hear like any good Halloween stories for you guys. That's what I was hoping for. Brandon: I have something in mind. Okay, so when I was younger, like elementary age, whatever, I wasn't a big fan of Halloween dressing up and all that. I did it a couple of times, I think. I'm very consistent. think one year I was like a Ninja Turtle and another year a Ninja and that was it. So like I said, not very important. But what I do remember and what I really enjoyed was him in college. Carson: Dude, I j just imagining you as a ninja right now. Brandon: I sure once again like I have pictures somewhere forever for sure. I mean I throw in stars and everything I Carson: Do you like sneak sneak up on motherfuckers and I? Brandon: still I wasn't Carson: That would be great. Brandon: I think I was like probably like seven or eight then it wasn't nothing serious Carson: my Paulina just made the how adorable face. Paulina: Yeah, I mean yeah, I can you imagine little Brandon as a ninja, you know? Carson: Ha ha ha Paulina: That's not horrible. Brandon: Yeah. Carson: Ha ha Brandon: But yeah, say a Halloween then wasn't that big of a deal. But what I did enjoy was in college, like we would go to because my university was about 45 minutes away from Nashville. So what we would do is we would go to Nashville because they had like 100 houses, like proper 100 houses, like warehouses that companies would come in and they would fix it up. And we would go do that. And I mean, for Halloween, that was a good experience for me. I think about it now and safety-wise, not very safe because there were people that had like chainsaws, like real chainsaws. This is like, I like think about all these things, like you're not supposed to Carson: Yeah, that's Brandon: touch anyone, but they were definitely like touch you and push you and do it. Carson: too. Brandon: it's like, yeah, I'm sure you can't do any of that now, but I think about it. Carson: The haunted houses Brandon: Probably not. Carson: you're talking about? You don't think they can do that anymore. Brandon: I mean, I actually changed song. Carson: Dude, I mean I these are the best haunted houses I remember is where you would have to sign a waiver like, I promise I won't fucking reach my arm out of the Brandon: Yeah, back in the day. But like I said, I don't know if that still exists in the US now, but I would the change how everything has changed. I can see them. So, yeah, you can't be that extreme. Carson: Dude, I mean Hegseth was about to live stream Brandon: You Carson: a firing squad execution. I mean, I I don't think, you know, haunted house issues are are really on the radar, but but that's those are good memories. Good memories for sure. Brandon: Big, big facts. Yeah. True story. Yeah. Carson: I was gonna say something like that. Actually, I was thinking about haunted houses earlier. I was like, do we even have those in Spain? Did they do that? Brandon: Not really. Paulina: Spain and Halloween is not Carson: 'Cause we we should get on that. Paulina: like it's pretty whack, I gotta say. Carson: But they like it at the same time they like it. Hey Mike. Paulina: Yeah, but you know what surprised me is that they think that Halloween you have to dress up really scary because they have carnival Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: and then for for the carnival they actually like dress up funky and like, you know, Brandon: Yeah. Paulina: like whatever. But then Carson: Yeah, you can be whatever, yeah. Paulina: like during Halloween, they're like, You have to be scary. And I'm like, Mm, Brandon: No you don't. Paulina: no, like that's not really like important. Like in the States, like you can dress up as whatever, like, you I had I have seen so many people dress up as like I don't know, Marion, Luigi, whatever, like Yoshis, like everything. But so it's not like Brandon: Gotta be creative. Paulina: Yeah, and it's like you don't Carson: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's funny, but I think it I find it kind of endearing that they want it to be scary. I don't know. I think it's cool. I mean, it is like you said, it's I I've had that conversation too with somebody. I'm just like, you know, in the US, hmm. But yeah, at the same time, I think it's cool. Scare some motherfuckers. Paulina: The question with you also a ha haunted house? Carson: Yeah, I've had some I've had some memories there. I was thinking about the time my brother and I dressed up as girls for Halloween. Yeah. Makeup, Paulina: That's scary. Carson: lipstick, wigs, I think tights. You know. Yeah. Yes. So we did Paulina: I love to see a photo of that. Carson: that. We were I don't know. This was one of the last Halloween. I don't know. We were twelve or thirteen, I think. Does that sound right? I don't know. Paulina: You guys didn't know do do like Halloween after that? Like dressing up after that? Carson: Not trick or treating. I I rem I mean at some p some age you stopped, right? What what age was that? Brandon: I guess he has started early. Paulina: What you mean? What do you mean? You stopped trick or treating. Carson: Look, I'm six feet four inches. I'm a Brandon: Sure. Carson: giant dude. If I go dress up as something, it doesn't matter. It'd be like, kid, you're not a kid. I can see your beard through your mask. Like tricker tree. Creepy. Paulina: right. I think I was going trick-or-treating up until like maybe sixteen, but like trick-o-treating not like necessarily Carson: Maybe, yeah, okay. Sixteen is sixteen's good. Paulina: Not necessarily like just trick-o-treating, like, you know, it would be like we would like a movie now and like, let's go to the bodega, like, you know, and just get like some let's see if they give us candy, you know? We would have our costumes and like we would walk around the shops and be like, let's see if anybody actually gives us candy. You know? It wasn't like full-on like adventure of trick-o-treating, but Brandon: That's different. Paulina: I remember I had I had a class at the university, it was like a College now program. So still in high school technically, but it was like classes that you could take from like a college, from university. And it was Halloween, and I I went dressed up. And I think there was only one other person in the class that was also dressed up. Like we're both high school students. We're like seniors in high school. We went dressed up like right after our regular classes. And We we had to wait for that class and we're like, yo, let's I need to go to ride aid, like I need to get something. I think it was like, I don't know, it was like something to drink or whatever. So we went across the street to Rite Aid and we saw that they had a lot of candy, you know, and we're like, okay, let's let's see if we can pull this off. And we went and we were like, trick-or-treat. Think of a a whole fucking bag of candy. Like full-on like a ride aid bag, like those plastic bags. We're like, here you go, have fun kids. Brandon: So, so. Carson: Okay. Paulina: That was like peak. That was like amazing, you know? That was like a wonderful moment for me. but I think that was like the last time I actually went like trickot treating. but I also have a very creepy story about Halloween. And this is the story that I told you Carson: You say Paulina: guys before, but I didn't Carson: yeah, yeah, sure. Sure. Brandon: of all the details. Paulina: Yeah. So In New York, we we had a hurricane. I don't remember which year it was. it was Hurricane Sandy. I don't remember which year that was. Two thousand eleven, around there. and I remember it was around Halloween time and they canceled like all the Halloween activities. Like the mayor said there's not gonna be any trick or treating, like nothing. Like, please stay inside, like. It's going to be really dangerous, whatever. Like New York, w when we have hurricanes, like it hits hard, you know? It was like a Brandon: They're bad. Paulina: yeah, it was like a a hardcore like rainstorm, like, you know, like trees just moving around, like a whole bunch of shit on the floor, whatever. It flooded like the lower part of Brooklyn as well. Like it was bad. But I think Halloween was on Saturday and like Friday night. I stepped out to the store. And because I was like, okay, I think we need like something like some milk and like some OJ or whatever. So I like I literally like stepped outside just to get like quick groceries, you know. I knew it was already starting to rain. I was like, oof, like I don't really like this, but fuck yeah, I'm just it's a block over. So I'm walking down to the store, I got my, you know, milk, got my orange juice, whatever. I'm walking, trying to get home as fast as I can. And there's a guy walking behind me. I was like, okay, fucking weirdo. Like, you know, so I speed up. And this motherfucker starts running behind me. So I start fucking running and I turn around. I'm like, let me at least get a fucking look on his face, you know, like to if something happens, to be able to describe to the police. This motherfucker is dressed up in a Michael Myers costume. I'm talking about the fucking mask and all. I'm talking about a fucking machete. And I don't know if it was not I I don't know if it was real or not because from far away it looked pretty fucking real. Some they're fucking booking it, you know, as fast as I can with my fucking true like milk and fucking orange juice, you know? I'm like, I'm about to start fucking swinging this shit so he doesn't get close to me. I'm I'm like, I don't know if I should Carson: And it's like, hell no. Paulina: Yeah, like I was like, I don't know if I should like take out my phone because it it's Carson: Get out of here. Paulina: raining. I don't have, you know, hands to actually pick up my phone. So I start running. This guy starts running behind me and he's like, have some Halloween spirit, won't you? Like super creepy shit, you know. Thankfully, there was a park that was like right next door, and I like ran into that park, and there were some guys playing basketball. Like, you know, I was like, Why are the f these guys playing basketball at this time, Brandon: Or Halloween. Paulina: you know, in almost fucking middle of the storm? But they were just there, like hanging out. Yeah, yeah, that type Carson: Getting that last game and just fucking Brandon: Okay Paulina: of thing. Carson: cookie jar in that bitch. Brandon: Thank Paulina: And I ran into that fucking basketball court. I sat on the bench and I'm like, guys, Brandon: You're right. Paulina: like I looked at them, like I didn't even have to say, I'm like, guys. And they looked Carson: Help. Paulina: at this guy, all of them, like in a fucking basketball, or just, you know, like, and build a fucking wall around me. And they're like, who the fuck are you? You know, to the guy. And he was like, no, no, just trying to have some fun here. Like Trying to have some fucking Halloween spirits since Halloween was cancelled. And they're like, no, you need to go. And they Carson: Whoa. Paulina: like stood there and they're like, you need to go. And this guy's like, nah, you fuckers, you guys are lame. Like, have some Halloween spirit. And like they're literally standing around me while this guy left. And then they're like, yo, we'll walk you home. Like my my house Carson: Well Paulina: was like two blocks away, you know? But they're like, we'll walk you home. Mmm. Because we don't trust that he's not somewhere around here lurking. So that was my Carson: What a creep. Paulina: fucking experience during Halloween in New York. Brandon: And that's how you get shot. Paulina: Exactly. When you go out to buy fucking milk and orange juice. But Carson: Yeah, yeah. Paulina: yeah, like I don't know like what would have happened, you know, if if those guys weren't there in a basketball court. No club. Carson: To get your ass Michael Myers. Paulina: Yeah. So Carson: Not a good look. Paulina: yeah, no, no, no. So that Carson: Shit. Paulina: definitely gave me some trauma after that, you know. Like, like I get that like people want to celebrate Halloween, but like, bro, it was like I think it was like a day or two days before Halloween. I'm like, why the fuck are you dressed up in a costume? Like two days before Halloween, trying to enjoy Halloween because it was cancelled. And you could tell that he was like a grown ass man. It was not like a teenager, you Carson: Ha ha ha. Brandon: Hahaha Paulina: know, like he was a big guy, like tall. Carson: No man, I just want to get in the Halloween spirit like Paulina: Like bro, like a grown ass man, I mean like definitely like in his like late twenties, thirties, you know? So Carson: Row. How can you run that fast? You're like sixty years old. Brandon: Acronysement. Paulina: fucking book in it and it was like there with a fucking chow. Woo Chow. And scary shit. Yeah. Brandon: yeah. You made it. Carson: Damn. Damn, dude. Paulina: Yeah, but other than that my Halloweens have generally been good, you know? Sometimes with lots of vomiting from drinks, but other than that, pretty good. Carson: Yeah. Yeah. That's all I remember. I remember I Brandon: You Carson: was a girl once. I filled a Paulina: Yeah. Brandon: You Carson: pillowcase with candy and I went home and I ate a half of it. Brandon: Not so good the next day. Carson: yeah, it didn't feel so great. Actually, now I'd probably just die if I did that. I it the Brandon: that's sugar. Carson: stomach pain would be just so bad. I mean, i I have like hardly any. I sound like some nuts who got flacked for this, yeah. Hardly any sugar and or you know, something a little too spicy. You're like, ooh, mm when you were younger, it would just be nothing. Like you were just Yeah, like Paulina: The IBS. Brandon: You Carson: here you eat something, you're just like, nope, I got a new condition, I need to avoid lactose and Brandon: Can't... Can't do this. Paulina: man. But now I mean Carson: resilience when you're young. Paulina: now you have to be really careful with the candy because apparently they're putting fucking blades in them and shit. You ha you guys heard about that? Brandon: Yeah, I heard about that in the past. It's like you can't trust anything now. Paulina: Like literally fucking like razor blades in the fucking candy. Carson: See that's what I'm saying. Paulina: Well this this episode is is going to be a fun ride. Brandon: Hope you're all having a wonderful day. Carson: Yes. You know, people are up every everybody's Paulina: And a lovely week. Stay safe while celebrating Halloween. Carson: helping each other and you know, humans are just tip top. We're real good to each other. And we're hoping AI is treats us the same we treat ourselves. At at best. At least, I don't know. so yeah. So yeah, Paulina: So on that note Brandon: I know. Carson: there's that. Any other questions? Paulina: Hello that Carson: Okay, one more. No Paulina: you motherfucker. Brandon: I think we need to recover Carson: I seriously do have more. Brandon: from all this. Paulina: Yeah, I'll just go watch the Sopranos. I don't know if that'll d I'll Carson: Well Paulina: d I don't know if that'll make it better. And Carson: I think it can make it worse. Paulina: I don't think I can. I th I think like Sopranos just makes everything better, you know, to Carson: Medicinal. Yeah, I watch the Sopratos, Paulina: Never beat. Carson: but it's medicinal. Paulina: A Gabagul. Carson: Ha ha ha. Paulina: is it really the group Carson: All right, y'all. Paulina: chat if Paulina doesn't say gabagul at least once? Like Carson: Gabagul was one of the one of the name ideas for the show, everybody. Just want you to know it came up in the group chat. It was like, but wait guys, it kind of is a good name. It could be the best name. Cabaghool. Paulina: Gabagul? Yo, bro, I mean we could still Brandon: It Paulina: change it. We could say we're the Gabaghouls, like, come on, Brandon: capagos. Paulina: the Gabaghouls, like what can go wrong? Brandon: Alright, maybe one episode. Carson: I think there's there's gonna be some I'm sorry for the editing you might and probably will have to do on this one. we love you guys. Brandon: No, no, no, we're good. Paulina: No regrets. Carson: We love you guys. Brandon: We don't care. Carson: No regirds, no regards, got it chat rat here, mate. y'all have yourself a lovely evening or morning or day or night. We are the group chat. We're just being real. Follow us on social media. You know how to get podcasts, you do the thing. Like, share, subscribe. We love you. Brandon: You Carson: Thank you. Bye. Paulina: Bye. Brandon: Deuces.