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1-08-26 Hour 2 - Jamal Murray has stepped up/Mike McDaniel fired by Dolphins/Broncos sustainability · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Caine on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: Now it's back on top to Jalen Brown.
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  Speaker 3: Brown gets in the paint, Leans in layup block by
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  Speaker 3: Nony see Nazi is everywhere for Denver bucking Here's huge.
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  Speaker 3: Murray gets down the lane, kick out three Watson lock
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  Speaker 3: Stone one o six to ninety three. Denver leads it
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  Speaker 3: by thirteen. Murray has it, brings it back out over
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  Speaker 3: to the middle, spins on Pritchard.
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  Speaker 2: Stops ten footer buckets. Denver leads it.
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  Speaker 3: One oh nine to ninety eight to eleven point lead,
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  Speaker 3: rebound tap grab by Murray put back three if the
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  Speaker 3: horn misses it and Denver with another improbable win. They
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  Speaker 3: get a dumb double from Jamalbury twenty two points, seventeen
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  Speaker 3: assists in eight rebounds, and the Nuggets stunned the Boston
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  Speaker 3: Celtics in the Garden Final tonight, one fourteen to one ten.
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  Speaker 2: Do you like apples? How do you like their.
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  Speaker 4: Maxxon One quick update from the NFL I thought this
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  Speaker 4: said that Todd Bowles was getting let go. That is
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  Speaker 4: not the case. Todd Bowles is firing the offensive coordinator
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  Speaker 4: of the Bucks, so it looks like he is still
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  Speaker 4: going to be in Tampa.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the day that Nelly pulled out his Todd Bowles impression.
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  Speaker 4: I was it pleasant, least surprised. Hey, and give it
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  Speaker 4: to us again. Now we'll get to the Nuggets in
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  Speaker 4: a second. Give us the old Todd Bowles.
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  Speaker 2: Just play the hits, you know, the hand hand hand.
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  Speaker 4: I'll be the reporter. You guys have a game in Detroit,
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  Speaker 4: this playoff game. You know it's gonna be fifteen degrees
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  Speaker 4: and snowing there. How will you guys deal with the weather?
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  Speaker 5: You know they they got a dome, right, they play indoors.
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  Speaker 4: It's a little like Cleveland from family Guy that he's
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  Speaker 4: gotten there.
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  Speaker 2: But the Nuggets.
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  Speaker 4: Here's something I wanted to say, because we talked about
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  Speaker 4: this to start the show. The effort, the grit, the
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  Speaker 4: all the stuff that you want to hear about your
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  Speaker 4: basketball team and how they play. I got another pretty
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  Speaker 4: significant detail to what the Nuggets have done in the
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  Speaker 4: absence of Joker, and it should get people pretty fired
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  Speaker 4: up in a good way. Jamal Murray for the first
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  Speaker 4: time for an extended stretch, has been the guy on
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  Speaker 4: this roster right, especially with all the injuries. Initially when
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  Speaker 4: Joker first left, Jamal was the only starter left standing.
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  Speaker 4: He's the main focal point of opposing teams. He is
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  Speaker 4: your number one option on offense for maybe the first
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  Speaker 4: time in his career again for an extended stretch.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what Jamal's done.
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  Speaker 4: Over the last two who starts that he had, because
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  Speaker 4: it's not been scoring his story?
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  Speaker 2: Feel yeah, but I feel like you're pulling a Vic
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  Speaker 2: here where I'm gonna give you a right answer, but
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  Speaker 2: it's not the right answer.
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  Speaker 4: They know I'm pausing for dramatic effect. I'm not. I'm
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  Speaker 4: not looking for an answer. I'm pausing.
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  Speaker 2: You realize Vic does that, right, He does that all
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  Speaker 2: the time. I can give it a full, legit answer.
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  Speaker 2: He goes, No, that's wrong because I'm not giving him
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  Speaker 2: just passed because they got you, okay, He's getting his
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  Speaker 2: teammates involved.
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  Speaker 4: Jamal's scoring is around the same of what he's done
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  Speaker 4: all year, which is a career best by far. Jamal
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  Speaker 4: over the last two starts that he's had has thirty
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  Speaker 4: three assists, thirty three. You look over his game logs
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  Speaker 4: throughout this year. He has had a bunch of games
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  Speaker 4: in which he has totaled ten or more assists, including
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  Speaker 4: just in the last eight games, five times has he
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  Speaker 4: had a double double with points and assists.
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  Speaker 2: He's averaging seven and a half per year. What are
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  Speaker 2: you getting at you? Why do you think that? Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Why do you think that's happening?
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  Speaker 4: I'm getting at this Jamal who is averaging his best
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  Speaker 4: field goal percentage of his career this year, and his
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  Speaker 4: best three point percentage of his career by far, a
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  Speaker 4: full two percentage points higher, and the most assists that
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  Speaker 4: he's had per year by a full assist and a half,
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  Speaker 4: and the most points that he's had all year by four.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody was asking Jamal Murray to be ready, Jamal Murray,
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  Speaker 4: be in shape, be conditioned, be responsible as a max
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  Speaker 4: contract player. He has done all of that for you
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  Speaker 4: this year. That's what I'm getting at Jamal Murray, and
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  Speaker 4: especially with him being the main ball handler when he's
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  Speaker 4: on the floor now without Joker has proven one thing.
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  Speaker 4: He's also a creator. We think about that about jokicch right,
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  Speaker 4: that Jokic is the old like I'm gonna find a
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  Speaker 4: guy wide open, get a shot, blah blah blah. Jamal
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  Speaker 4: Murray averaging seven and a half seven and a half
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  Speaker 4: assists per game and in the last two starts without
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  Speaker 4: Joker thirty three combined was seventeen last night in sixteen
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  Speaker 4: against Brooklyn, a couple of games ago. I I don't
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  Speaker 4: think I can be more impressed with Jamal's game this year.
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  Speaker 4: He has been remarkable in a way that his entire
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  Speaker 4: beef throughout his time here in Denver, moje, there's been
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  Speaker 4: one word that surrounded him that's been some sort of
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  Speaker 4: curse word, consistency. He brings it every night. And I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if people are gonna react to well he should,
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  Speaker 4: because okay, fine, maybe he should, but he hasn't. It's
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  Speaker 4: been a long time and this is by far the
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  Speaker 4: best basketball that he's played over a consistent stretch.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't disagree with you, not looking for a disagree.
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  Speaker 2: What am I supposed to do with that information? I agree? Hey,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, Brett Hyfopps, You're right on the money. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: But here's what I guess.
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  Speaker 4: Here's what I'm getting at is that the struggles that
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  Speaker 4: the Nuggets have had in recent regular seasons, especially early
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  Speaker 4: in the year, have been tied to him, and that
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  Speaker 4: has led to questions of can you turn it on
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  Speaker 4: in the postseason? And I think the last couple of
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  Speaker 4: years Jamal hasn't been able to do that that we've
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  Speaker 4: just assumed that Jamal Murray is somebody who's a playoff riser.
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  Speaker 4: When he gets to the postseason, all of it's gonna click.
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  Speaker 4: Hasn't ha been the last two And I think it
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  Speaker 4: was a wake up call for him that if I
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  Speaker 4: want to be playing my best basketball at the end
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  Speaker 4: of the year, I have to develop habits early in
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  Speaker 4: the year to get me there.
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  Speaker 2: Now you're getting someplace. Now you're getting someplace, because it's
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  Speaker 2: going to make him a better player when the postseason
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  Speaker 2: rolls around. Even though he's been a good postseason player,
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  Speaker 2: he's probably learning more about you know, he's always been
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  Speaker 2: a self confident guy. He's always been a self believer.
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  Speaker 4: Anybody who, even cause I criticizes him, he will take
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  Speaker 4: ultimate offense.
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  Speaker 2: Oh. Sure, he's always been and he's always you know,
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  Speaker 2: been sure of himself. But I'll bet deep down he's
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  Speaker 2: finding out more about himself and games like this and
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  Speaker 2: times like this than he two for I think that
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  Speaker 2: really is the case, and I love what I'm seeing
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  Speaker 2: out of him, and I love the fact that he's
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  Speaker 2: getting his teammates involved. Typically he's the beneficiary of that.
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  Speaker 2: It's a two man game and they always win exactly
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  Speaker 2: right now, it's his job because opposing teams are going
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  Speaker 2: to key on him because they realize that this guy's
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  Speaker 2: playing All star type of basketball and is a champion
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  Speaker 2: and he can't light you up. He's your main option
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  Speaker 2: now or one of your main but your main option
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  Speaker 2: with the big fella out, He's like, okay, here, you
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  Speaker 2: want some pe watt done a By the way, uh
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  Speaker 2: Douran I thought, I'm liking Derod Holmes more and more
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  Speaker 2: every game. I'll get to that maybe a little bit
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  Speaker 2: later on. He's throwing that ball around, he's finding guys
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  Speaker 2: in the fact. Did the matter is they're finishing And
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  Speaker 2: I will see this too. Man, the Nuggets last night
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  Speaker 2: from the three point line.
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  Speaker 4: They've been shooting great. They've been shooting great all year.
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  Speaker 4: They had a graphic up on ESPN. By the way,
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  Speaker 4: it's bizarre to see Michael Malone on the desk before
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  Speaker 4: a Nuggets game. It is and now I watched Altitude,
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  Speaker 4: but I did watch ESPN for the pregame because I
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  Speaker 4: kind of want to see what Malone said, and he
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  Speaker 4: really just rattled off stats didn't say a lot of anything,
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  Speaker 4: but they had on a graphic before the game that
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  Speaker 4: both teams that were playing last night were on pace
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  Speaker 4: for the most points per possession in NBA history. Their
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  Speaker 4: offense has been great this year, and I guess a
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  Speaker 4: sub point to the Jamal thing. I asked this question
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  Speaker 4: and it was one of those like I didn't I
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  Speaker 4: didn't believe it, but I was just curious throwing it
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  Speaker 4: out there if anybody had some sort of take towards it.
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  Speaker 4: When we found out that Jokic had the hyper extension
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  Speaker 4: and no ligament damage and it was going to be
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  Speaker 4: a short term loss and not a.
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  Speaker 2: Long term.
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  Speaker 4: I said, is there any positive to the team for
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  Speaker 4: an extended stretch having to figure out how do we
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  Speaker 4: win games when we can't just be like, hey fifteen,
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  Speaker 4: go do this for us. And I think here's what
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  Speaker 4: we're finding. Jamal can step up to a bigger role
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  Speaker 4: when necessary. Guys like Zeke Naji, Guys like Peyton Watson,
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  Speaker 4: Guys like Jalen Pickett, if they're asked to play a
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  Speaker 4: bigger role, are capable in minutes.
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  Speaker 2: We are learning that now, well that we're learning it.
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  Speaker 4: We would if if this team was fully healthy with
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  Speaker 4: no injuries, there's no like what okay, there's no thought
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  Speaker 4: on Zeke. But if there's your thought on Picket.
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  Speaker 2: If you're in game seven, Rown two and God forbid, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: something would happen and you got, hey, Zeke, I need
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  Speaker 2: you to play twenty six minutes tonight. And I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that I would feel at this second,
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  Speaker 2: Hold on a second. Maybe by the time we get
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  Speaker 2: to April, I'll be like, oh yeah, but right this
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  Speaker 2: very second, even with what I'm seeing, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: that I would say, oh yeah, no, sweat Nuggets still
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  Speaker 2: got this. I'd be panicky, Brett.
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  Speaker 4: It's a fantastic point, Mosh. And we'll go back to this.
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  Speaker 4: If God forbid, there's a Game seven that you're playing
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  Speaker 4: and guys are hurt, what the hell would that look like?
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  Speaker 4: Oh wait a minute, Yeah, we did that last year
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  Speaker 4: and their decision was I'm going to play Aaron Gordon
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  Speaker 4: with a Grade two hamstring strain. He can't run up
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  Speaker 4: and down the floor.
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  Speaker 2: That was David happened, by the way, who did that?
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  Speaker 2: That was not Michael Student.
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  Speaker 4: You're stood, But perhaps Zeke Naji getting some minutes could
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  Speaker 4: maybe you still play Aaron Gordon, but he plays more
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  Speaker 4: than the ten minutes of garbage time at the end
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  Speaker 4: of the game when it was over. Okay, that's how
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  Speaker 4: I'm getting at.
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  Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. Let me go back to
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  Speaker 2: my three point thing real quick.
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  Speaker 4: But let's just pretend there's a scenario in which there's
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  Speaker 4: a game seven and guys are hurt. Let's just pretend
• 10:53
  Speaker 4: pretend that scenario just conjured up in your mind. If
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  Speaker 4: you can imagine what that.
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  Speaker 2: Would look like. Steve, get a load of this guy.
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  Speaker 4: I know most I'm not making fun of you. I'm
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  Speaker 4: just making the point you're dripping with sarcasm like a
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  Speaker 4: It's not about you though. It's just like we just doubt.
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  Speaker 2: How insulting me is gonna make this a better insult.
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  Speaker 4: I want to make this clear. I'm not insulting, and
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Mind if you are insulting me.
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  Speaker 4: What I'm telling you is I'm telling you I'm not.
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  Speaker 4: All I'm saying is last year's the prime example of
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  Speaker 4: what I'm talking about is that you had Gordon that
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  Speaker 4: was heart, you had Westbrook with a broken hand, and
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  Speaker 4: you had Porter with one shoulder.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't have this information.
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  Speaker 4: I'm getting that we get we's got a month's worth
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  Speaker 4: of evidence.
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  Speaker 2: Now now we're getting more information. Last night, I can't
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: tell you how good it was because the Boston Celtics
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  Speaker 2: are one of the top three pointing shooting teams in
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  Speaker 2: the league, correct.
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  Speaker 4: And they throw up a million of them. It kind
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  Speaker 4: of grossed me out. How many threes are wells that game.
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  Speaker 2: But the typical well, they only took thirty eight last night,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll get took forty four for grunt out loud.
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  Speaker 2: But typically you'll see a Boston game and they'll they'll
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  Speaker 2: throw up fifty fifty threes easy. Right. Every time the
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: Nuggets came down the floor and they needed a three,
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  Speaker 2: it felt like every time they needed a three to
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  Speaker 2: like tie the game or go ahead back by one, number,
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  Speaker 2: down by two, or whatever. Right, it felt like that
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  Speaker 2: fourth quarter, every time they needed a bucket, somebody got
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  Speaker 2: them a bucket.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah that Jamal Jamal.
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  Speaker 2: Missed some of the first half, you know, a little
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  Speaker 2: runner here, you know, a little floater. Aaron Gordon took
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  Speaker 2: up a turner up a fadeaway jumper from the elbow.
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  Speaker 2: That was like, eh, I hated it, right, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: that's a poor shot choice. But it felt like coming
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  Speaker 2: down the stretch man. Every time they needed a bucket
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  Speaker 2: last night, somebody filled it up.
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  Speaker 4: To your point, here's the fourth quarter of a tight game.
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  Speaker 4: That's like, it's it's a one possession.
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  Speaker 2: Versus I did look at this. Just please lay it out.
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  Speaker 4: A picket three pointer boom, a picket, nine foot jumper,
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  Speaker 4: lamb Zeke Nase and one oh, Jamal Murray twenty footer it,
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  Speaker 4: Christian Brown three yeah, Peyton Watson layup like he Zeke
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  Speaker 4: dunk wa' sick Zee free throws pick it three pointer,
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  Speaker 4: tasty Watson three point, Zeke free throws like it, Jamal jumper.
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  Speaker 4: You're right, it's every single guy on basically every other
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  Speaker 4: possession was somebody else made a bucket for.
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  Speaker 2: He is everywhere for Denver. He was so good.
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  Speaker 4: Like because he was so good. You know what, you
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  Speaker 4: know what non joker games does to cause his voice,
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  Speaker 4: It makes it playoff volume. I've noticed that. Uh so
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  Speaker 2: But I'm just sitting here with my teeth in my
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  Speaker 2: mouth waiting. I know, and I'm not. I'm not. I'm ready.
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  Speaker 2: My favorite quarterback who's not a starting quarterback. I'd have
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: to think about that that you kinda put me in, uh.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Jeorge Stidham. No, I don't know what do you what
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: are kidding that?
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: You're big arm, big arm backup quarterback was just in Denver,
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: currently in Miami. Zach Wilson, Zach Jesus God, come on man.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, no, I have not, but you you you put
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: me behind the eight ball. Here.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: Did you see little bro who looks like an exact replica?
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: He looks like a clone?
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: Yes, was just committed to see you. Oh, your kid
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: is transferred. Yes, so Zach Wilson's little brother. Alright, I
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: guess sorry, is expected to transfer. I should say expected to,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: but he is expected to transfer according to on three
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: from Utah over to see you and uh, I guess
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: be the back up to Juju or something something like that.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, good, I mean I think that's he does
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: look like a clone, does he not? I mean an
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: exact one to one. It's pretty weird. It's almost like,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: uh yeah, I know they have the same parents, and
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I know that there are siblings who have looked alike
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: and that sort of thing. This is kind of like
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: they took the same egg and split it or I
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: It's siblings look similar like me and my brother looks similar,
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: but we look we're different, right different. There's some siblings
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: that look exactly The ones that really freak me out
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: are the brother and sister that look exactly right, right right,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: because I know a couple that are like that, and
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I'm like, that's that's really weird. But I do want
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: to ask you, by by the.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Way, the Lombardes, none of the none of the kids.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: You can all tell that all the kids are Lombardies.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: They're related. You could tell her all Lombardies, they're all
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: brothers sister, but they don't like there's no distinct differences.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, So here's the question that I have, and
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: I want to go to the avs. Here we spent
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: a lot of time talking about the power play, and
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: it's funny. I just saw a clip from Jalen Williams
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Jay dubb as the column in Oklahoma City where they're
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: on a bit of a skid right now, And I
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: don't have the exact quote in front of me. I
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: wish I did, but I'm gonna paraphrase. He said, not
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: to sound arrogant, but we have been so good over
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: the last couple of years that when we have a
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: human like stretch and we lose a few games, people
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: think the sky is falling, and the Avs, I think
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: with the hew this season has gone have the same
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: type of treatment where they lose a couple of games
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: in regulation. We're like, well, Jesus, man, figure out the
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: power play and then these don't happen. And maybe you're
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: overdoing it because you're so used to in spoiled by
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: the success they've had so far, but we all know
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: the power play is an issue that needs to get fixed.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Here's my question, though, we are so uber focused on
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: the power play, and you know they let go of
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: the Special teams coach last year, Why am I blanking
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: on his name?
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Ray Ray Bennett, Ray Bennett.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: They brought in hackstill and the power play has not
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: gotten much better, and we're like, Jesus, what's the problem here?
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Does anybody care to focus how good the penalty kill
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: has been? Though, because this is Special teams are two sided.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: There's the power play, which how many goals you score
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: with a man advantage, and then there's a penalty kill,
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: which is how many goals you.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Allow when you're down a man.
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: They're incredibly good five on five, so does it cancel
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: out some of the angst that people have, because we
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: got the answer from Bednar yesterday and he goes, look,
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: you always want to be scoring more goals, and he
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: was very much like, we have to get this fixed.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: He was very much aggression.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: No, he was. He fully admits that it's it's not panic,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: but there's like they need to fix it. They and
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: they talk about it and work on it every day. Nelly,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: do you have that cut yesterday from coach bennor if
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: you got it, because he's he's more than willing to
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: admit to your face that yeah, we've got issues that
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: we need and they're trying a lot of different things
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: that they practiced with McKinnon in the bumper the other day.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: So they But the other part to his quote was,
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: and I do think it's important just to keep in
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: mind for context, is but we are really good at
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: not allowing goals.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: That's true, and.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: I think that there is something to be said that, yes,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: if you're struggling in that aspect of it, it's not
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: that you're getting totally demolished on the special team side
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: of things, which is good.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a balance. It's not your PK is twenty
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: six or so. It's not like your powerplays twenty six
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: and your PK is twenty one, right, because that would
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: be a major. They're doing a great job killing penalties
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: even without Logan O'Connor, and he has been one of
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: your very best, if not the best, penalty killer for
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: the past I want to say five four years, to
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: be honest with you, and beyond that. So yeah, I
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: mean I think, look, if you want to win, Ryker
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: said it best the other day. When you're in a
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: postseason game, you're in game five. Let's see, let's say
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: the series is tied at two and you're in Game five.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: If the Florida Panthers gave the Avalanche three power plays
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: in the second period, yeah, on Sunday night. I know
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: you're in the back to back. It doesn't make you're
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: playing hockey, right. They gave you three power plays and
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: you didn't convert on any of them, and it looked
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: not good at all. There will be a Game five
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: in round two, series tied at two, game tied at one, whatever,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: and that team is going to give you a couple
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: three power plays or whatever, right, or you're gonna earn them.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: You've got to score on You've got to put it in.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: What big news out of Miami. Mike McDaniel has just
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: been fired.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Oh that means they're getting Harball.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: So Harba is going to be the Dophins.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: That's not reported.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: But they aren't firing McDaniel unless they have a pretty
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: good inkling that they're I feel like, this is what happened.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: To win games, you have to win the game, not
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: lose the game.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Mike.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Here's what feels like what happened to me in Miami.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: They kept Mike McDaniel on ice and they're like, if
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: I don't find anything better, we'll run it back. Harbaugh
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: got fired and they picked up the phone immediately and said,
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: how would you like this?
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: You know that that's my reaction, But I let me
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: tell you why. I don't know that that's the case.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: They don't have a quarterback in Miami. I mean they've
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: got one, but they won't play them. I mean, how
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: many teams with fired coaches have They've got one, but
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: they won't play them. I'll tell you who has one.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: The team that Harball was fired from, the team that
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Harvall got let go from, has a quarterback.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Is he the pick of the litter? Harbaugh. Yeah, should be,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I mean should be. Of course he is. He's the
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: number one target for seven teams that he coaches. Now, yeah,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I agree, okay, but they're in cap hell in Miami.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: They don't have a quarterback, they've got they've got issues
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: down there. I don't I mean, look, would you could
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: you handle living in Miami? I would be the ambassador
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: to Miami. I don't I do that. I don't think
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: we needed a US ambassador to Miami.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: We could Mosra.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: How many times have you seen Brett's rosy red chest
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: terry chain on top?
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: He has already missed a three oh five dall a million,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: like on the golf course, Nelly. And I'm not even
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: kidding you, because Brett likes to button his shirt down
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: a little bit on the golf course and get some
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: air in there. Yeah. He's got white, white, white skin
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: so it burns. And then he's got that gold chain
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: that hangs down. It's not everybody says gold, it's or whatever,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: it's silver, but it hangs down like when he's when
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: he's teeing off, it hangs down, you know, when it
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: flows out like the halfway through down and swing.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: It pops in the and then the ball goes three
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty yards down.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: You would be you would be told you'd be Miami.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: You'd be Miami.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: You honestly own more chains than a Puerto Rican baseball player.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: That's impressive.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Don't let my complexion confuse you. I'm a sunshine I know,
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: I'm a beach guy. I hate the snow, I hate
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: the cold. Yeah, don't let this pasty, freckled skin confuse anybody.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: But Mike McDaniel leo in my am. But I don't,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, would you will if you have the
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: pick of your teams? You know, the New York Giants job,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: despite being in New York. If you've got a Jackson
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Dark to work with, you've got a lot to work
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: with there. And I know he probably will not come
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: to the I mean, he won't come to the Raiders.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: He doesn't want to coach in the same division as
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: his brother. I dig that. But if you're taking over
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: a team and you got the number one pick in
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: the draft, and you can mold Francisco Mendoza, Fernando Mendoza,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Freddie Mendoza, any Mendoza, I'm just saying. I'm saying I
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: don't know. Why would you want to go to cap
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Hell and a quarterback whose brain is scrambled, he can't
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: play anymore.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: So we got a few minutes. Let me pay hand.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: We had a few minutes.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Let's let's go through this. Uh, we'll get picked back
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: to the bednar in the Powerplay staff in a second.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: But out of there's a lot of open jobs right
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: now in the NFL, the best job that is open
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: is Baltimore. You have an MVP quarterback that's sitting there
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: for are you ready to take over? And a team
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: that feels like, if they're healthy, is going to make
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: the post.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: He's ever of all these teams, if I could have
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson as my quarterback, That's where I'd want to be.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: But dude just got fired from there.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: So the question is out of all the other jobs
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: that are available, So now it is if we're ignoring
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Baltimore because obviously are about can't go there. If you're
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: John Harbaugh, you have the Giants, you have the Browns,
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: you have the Falcons, you have the Cardinals, the Titans,
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: the Raiders, and now the Dolphins. Which one of those
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: is most appealing out of the ones that I've mentioned
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: because I'll tell you if I.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Were the next best quarterback, the next best, I think
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: it's Jackson Dart, the next best ability to have something special.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Kyler Murray's on his way out or whatever he is.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Tua can't play the game anymore. Is Pennick's hurt and
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: you got this Kirk Cousins rework deal that's a total
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: mess in itself right and can't stay on the field.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I listen, Michael Pennick Jr. I would take him over
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Jackson Dart, I think. But he can't stay healthy if
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: we start, can't really either.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: If I'm power ranking this of teams, i'd most want
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: to take over. If I'm he's a mess, I think
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Miami's number one.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: And here's why.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: The built in advantage of being a team that's in Miami,
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: which is first of all, when it comes to free agents,
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: no income tax. That matters to players a lot. Most
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: You know that as well as anybody, but Brett.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: They've been signing free agents and they can't do jack
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: with them.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Well, maybe the right person hasn't been in charge. Here's
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: the second thing. Living in Miami is a great appeal
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: to players in the NFL. They love Miami. Thirdly, I
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: think I think you can be in a position in
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: that division that yes has difficult teams. I'm still waiting
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: to see if the Patriots stuff is real, and I'm
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: not taking anything away from them. The only reason I
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: say that, Moje is because they have They've played like
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: one really good team all year. I just don't know
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: if their record is truly reflective of the team that
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: they are now. They beat the snot out of people,
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: so I give him credit for it. They play the
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: teams on their schedule and they kick the crap out
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: of them, so good for them, but I'm still in
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: wait and see mode with them. Buffalo feels like they're
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: kind of teetering a bit. And I know when you
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: have Josh Allen, you're always going to be competitive. But
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: let's be honest, Josh Allen isn't He's not like Tom
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: Brady in that division where it's unwinnable. The Patriots just
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: stole it from him. With a second year quarterback, I
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: think that Miami has a lot to offer. I think
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: second on that list would probably be the Giant's job.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: So what you're telling me, but basically what you're telling
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: me is this Steven please.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, uh Miami.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Ah. You know why is it? Why do guys the
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: older they get, they want a boat love the boat.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I want to be on a freaking boat. I want
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: to float on that freaking boat. Wanna fish off that
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: freaking boat. I want to hang in the sun on
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: a freaking boat. I want to because I'm a freaking boat.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: It's because you, the older you get, you don't want
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: to move, but you want something to move you.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: That's what it is. Uh, can I ask sure?
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: My version of that is this past year I got
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: a little too deep into yacht rock and my my
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: top played song of the year on Spotify was a
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: yacht rock song. I'm like, dude, it's it's happening.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: It's happening. Man. Let me ask you a question. All right,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: So Hardball's staying in the you think he's staying in
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: the AFC. By the way, Jim wants him in the NF.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: So you know that, right, you see that? I did
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: see that.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: I think Jim is just like he knows you brothers
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: gonna get a job, and he can say whatever he wants.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Here here's a I think a more interesting question. Who
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: do you feel has the worst job you can take.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Cleveland Fair. It's either them or no offense. The owner
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: doesn't want Shador. You've got Deshaun Watson coming back and
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: he's no ties. If you don't want your door, then
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: get rid of your door. He's a fifth round pick. Okay,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm just saying. Plus you have to live in Cleveland.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: I think the Vegas job is the worst, despite having
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: the number one overall pick, I think it's the worst.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: It very well well, there's a lot of factors that
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: figure into it. First of all, look at the coaches
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: inside your division. Second of all, look at the quarterbacks
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: inside your division. Third of all, you've got to work
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: for Mark Davis.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: They've hired and fired a coach like every year.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Well, eventually they're gonna get it right. We're gonna have
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Leggie on here in about twenty minutes of continuity is
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: a killer for a franchise periodic of story. It is
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: an absolute killer. You got to think with Brady and Board,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: now eventually they're gonna get something right.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Remember John Gruden was was had to resign in twenty
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: twenty one, so he was gone. In comes Josh McDaniel.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: Then he's gone. Incomes Antonio Pierce.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Well, he took over on an interim basis and then
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: got the permanent job, but just for a short time.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: They hired him as the head coach, they gave him
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: a head a contract extension as the permanent head coach,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: and then after that year they hired Carrol and now
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: they're on again. This is gonna be their fifth coach
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: since twenty twenty one. That ain't a job that sounds
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: like one you want to take.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: The overall number one picked on a chance to draft
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Mendoza sounds pretty tasty.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: If you think Mendoz is amazing, well, if you do,
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: I'm amazing.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love my coach. You've all been
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: goloring to God.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Can't trust that guy. We're never supposed to be in
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: the vicision. Can't trust that.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, some people, some people would wanted
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: that raw emotion is is good.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: One last yearminder, the keyword for this hour is bees
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: like bees. So text that in your first last name
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: with three zho three five four nine two five Jeff
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: leg Wald in twenty minutes stick around.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Back here on Mosie, Lombardi and kine Vick is off
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: today Jeff Legwald coming up at the top of the hour,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: so stay tuned. We'll talk all things football. And I'm
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: not sure what Brett's doing right now. I think he's
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: getting what's he getting coffee? Nelly doing something, whatever he's doing.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he went to the curig and trying to fire
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: that thing up on a short clock.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's hard to do because that curig always takes
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: a while. But nonetheless, we will uh talk to Jeff
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Legwald about things. I don't know what to do with
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: myself though. As they sit here and wait for football
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: to happen, it's like, I mean, I'm glad the Broncos
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: have a bye week. I'm glad that that they can
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: rest up and maybe, you know, be that much healthier
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: when they find their opponent. But it could be one
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: of four opponents. And we have not been in this
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: position in an awfully long time yet, the.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: So weird I was tweeted at yesterday by somebody who
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: was defending you and getting after me for the discussion
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: about the Broncos offense, saying that I was lighting you
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: up on Monday after the Chargers game because you were
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: complaining about the offense. My entire point to this has been.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: The Chargers game at the end of the year should
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: not have been a surprise to anybody.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: And if there's anyone.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Who's felt this way about the offense the entire season,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: it's me. I have had sustainability questions when it comes
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: to the way they've been winning.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Then say what is on your mind? Truthfully about what?
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Because I'll say what's on my mind truthfully? What is it?
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: What are you getting at? What are you what are
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: you looking for me to say? Here? You're gonna play
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: good teams from here on out, really good teams. You're
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: a really good team. But if you've just been sort
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: of squeaking by with that offense that you trotted out
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: against the Chargers and maybe Sean paydon win Vanilla because
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: you knew he was gonna win. Whatever you trot that out,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get your ass kicked. That's where I disagree
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: with you. That's what I'm not saying that you're wrong.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I'm saying I don't know. I'm saying that no matter
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: what team comes in here, go through the go through
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: the diffuston.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: Texans are one of those teams. Correct, you played them
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: earlier this year, you won eighteen to fifteen.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: You can win that way. You're right, That's why I'm saying,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's not ideal, Okay, on that. What
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: I'm saying now is that of the possibilities of teams
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: coming here, let's run down them.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: It's the four options are Pittsburgh, Houston, LA, and Buffalo.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I would say that two of those four are gonna
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: smoke you if you throte up that offense, and you'll
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: have a puncher's chance against the other two. And that's it.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Give you another one now as the number but that's
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: a bye week in a number one seed. See, I'm
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: not afraid to say that that offense is going to
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: kill you. If you trot that offense out, you are
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: one and done. I'm not afraid to say it. But
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: apparently you are. Listen. I believe in the defense like
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: nobody's paying On hand, I believe in the defense like
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: nobody's business. But you can't keep trotting out that offense
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: and expect to win against good teams. You can't.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: I see you're saying two different things. One of them
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: I agree with the other one I don't. You can't
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: keep trotting out that offense. And expect to win. I
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: think that's true, but that doesn't mean they aren't capable
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: of winning that way, because they've done that fourteen out
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: of seventeen times this year.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: You're right, And here's here's I guess. But I now
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: in crunch time, when you've got your next opponent's going
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: to be a damn fine football team, whomever it is.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: Well, you said two out of those four teams are
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: gonna smoke you. I'm assuming you're talking about Buffalo and
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: you're talking about LA.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: I'll remind you the first time they played LA, the
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Broncos are up twenty to thirteen with ten minutes left
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: to go in that game, and they blew it at
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: the end. They didn't get smoked, they didn't finish the game.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: What was the date of that game, September. What were
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: we at right now, January? Yeah, okay, I'm telling you
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: it's different. It's different.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: I would tell you that that supports my argument more
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: than yours, because the Chargers were healthy in September.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: I would tell you that when it matters the most,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: that that cut teams are going to elevate on you.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Good teams are going to elevate on you. We saw
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars do it. Yeah, your last really good
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: opponent smoked you in your joint.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: It's also the only game they get smoked out of
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: the seventeen game season. Like and again, they played the Eagles,
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: they beat them. The Eagles are a playoff team, right.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: The Colts looked like a playoff team. They should have
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: beaten Indy and they didn't close the game out. But
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: you say this like they're gonna get smoked. I don't
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: see them getting smoked. I could see them losing, sure,
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: and I don't expect. By the way, if I had
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: to guess right now, let me set an over under
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: for the Broncos points scored in the Divisional round, not
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: even knowing who the opponent is. Sure, if I set
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: it at twenty and a half, i'd probably right now
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: take the under.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, so here's but here's what the Broncos did.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: What I don't know is can they hold a team
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: to thirteen because they're totally capable of that.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, here's what. But here's what they did coming on
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: the stretch with the defensive side of things. And I
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: believe in the defense, Like nobody's business. Gave up twenty
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: six seventeen to their Raiders twenty six thirty four, and
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: then thirteen and three against teams that had quit and
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: were done.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're They're def wasn't as good late in the season.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: I agree. If they don't have Drake.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Greenlaw back by the divisional round, that is a big problem.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: That's a huge problem. I agree with that.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Look, I perhaps my perspective will change next week as
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: we get to really clinch down on an opponent. Perhaps
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: my perspective will change. By the way you see coach Sanford,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: do you see who he does not want to face
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: the most. He's right in line with your thinking. Yeah,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: the Chargers, the Chargers. I'm more fearful of Buffalo than
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: I am of the Chargers.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: See, so a whole bunch of these texts are coming through.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: It almost lost to Oladokin and the Chiefs, one miscatch.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: In the end zone at the end, and you aren't
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: the one seed.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: They almost lost to everybody they played this year, and
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: yet they won fourteen games. Like this is what I'm
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: trying to get through. This is not me stumping and
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: making the argument that I'm a huge hang on hand
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: This isn't me making the argument that I am some
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: huge believer in the Broncos and you guys are all haters.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: I have the same skepticisms as you have, when I
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: tell you I have. If you told me in the
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: first round or the divisional round of the playoffs, the
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: Broncos would face the Tennessee Titans, I would tell you
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know if they're going to win that game,
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: and I would mean it because they this is just
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: what they do. They have breezed by and done just
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: enough to win. I'll tell you this much too. If
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: I was outside of Denver looking at them from a
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: national perspective, I would have a ton of skepticism on
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: how good that team actually is because of the ways
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: that they've won. But it depends on what you value.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: Do you think that the ability to close out games
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: is a trait that will translate when the divisional round starts?
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: Or do you think that's a lucky byproduct of a
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: regular season Brett.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: That's impossible to answer, and that's because I think I
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: think on any given week, it's it's one of the other,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: it's both. I mean, it's there's fortune that goes into it,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: but you also learn habits, and you get experience in
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: doing that, and then it becomes more rote and then
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: you have more belief, and then you you can still
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: get lucky and win. And sometimes you get really lucky
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: and you didn't do anything to help your own cause.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: But somebody blew a field goal, or somebody dropped the
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: pass in the end zone, or you had a guy
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: with a pick six in his gut and he put
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: mom and me, you know what he and and and
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: the bubble was flying out and he can play pass y.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, dudes had a handful of pick sixes dropped
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: this year. I'll tell you. Look, I'm just here's let
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: me just tell you. My fear is because I think
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: this is a good football team. And I think fourteen
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: wins is fourteen wins, end of store. I mean that's
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: you can't look at the record and say, oh, they
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: were lucky. You can't because they were good. Yeah, but
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: everybody is good. Now, okay, everybody's good. Well, well, okay,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: everybody's good. I was gonna mention this.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: I bet if you go to every single market that
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: possesses a playoff team right now, NFC and AFC, and
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: they're talking about their upcoming playoff game. The conversation sounds
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: a lot like this, Yeah, I think they could win.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: But guys, if they don't do this better, then there's
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: going to be a big problem. There is no juggernaut
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: in the league right now. And that's why I have
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: like this is going to be the most impossible pick
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: through the postseason that you're gonna get.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about potential then, Okay, who has the potential?
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Which team in the AFC has the potential the most
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: potential of hanging forty on you?
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: These are the hypotheticals, right, I love them?
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Yep, me too. And by the way, I think he
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: was being sarcastic at that point.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: So your team in the AFC with the most potential
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: to hang forty on you.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: We all know what. Say it? Go ahead, they know
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: say it. You're gonna say the Bills. I don't know
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: if that's you right answer. Well, here's what they've scored.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: The Jacks can do that, but I'm talking. I know
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: they can talk about the.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: Most depictiates have done that a bunch this year.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Here's the Bills. Here's the Bills. Okay, forty one thirty
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: thirty one, thirty one twenty fourteen, forty twenty eight, forty four,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: twenty six, thirty nine, thirty five, twenty three, thirty five.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, dude, if you the odds are they're gonna
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: score thirty points in a playoff game, for crying out loud,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: if you trot out that offense that we saw the
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: last two weeks, you're gonna get your ass kicked. I don't.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: That's the one thing I think.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong. Hold on,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: but that's my fear. Do you understand my fear?
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: The one thing I feel confident in, the one thing
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: I fear.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Can I say this?
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: The one thing I feel confident in is I don't
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: think anybody's gonna blow them away? Okay, I don't think
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: anybody's gonna hang forty on you, including Buffalo. Your defense
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: is too good. Yeah, okay, uh, we can ask this
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: to Jeff Lagwald in just a couple of minutes. We'll
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: join us again Avs and Senators tonight. We'll get to
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: that keys to the game in the nine o'clock hour
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: as well.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: With some keys at some point. I mean, we'll get
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: some keys. But Jeff Lagwall joins us next