Latest / D-constructing Topics / Ep.47: Julia de Burgos: Poetry, Pain, and a Family Refuge
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- 0:00What's going on everybody and welcome, welcome to a beautiful episode of the
- 0:06Deconstructing Topic Podcast. My name is David and I'm your host of this beautiful,
- 0:12interesting podcast where we touch it all.
- 0:15And in this episode, you're well, my podcast is called Topics.
- 0:19That means we talking topics, but today we have an interesting episode because
- 0:25we are be talking about a historic figure,
- 0:28a poet there's so much words to describe this individual this beautiful lady,
- 0:34and it's someone that resonates with me and and life is crazy because we all
- 0:40have a connection somewhere somehow in life either in a moment of chaos tumultuous.
- 0:49Time and i love it and why i said to myself what better other person and i'm
- 0:57trying to find balance here and trying to find balance in life and trying to
- 1:01find balance in my podcast,
- 1:03to talk at all but we also want to do that this top this podcast it's very informative
- 1:10and today we are talking about none other than julia del Burgos.
- 1:16I don't even know where to start. Now, Julia de Burgos, that's her stage name
- 1:21or shortened to Julia Constanza de Burgos Garcia,
- 1:28is a Puerto Rican poet, journalist, teacher.
- 1:31She's, I got the title.
- 1:33She did all that. She was born on February 17, 1914.
- 1:42Like, I love to kind of engage with the audience with my family who's listening to this.
- 1:47And Julia de Burgos, for some reason, oof.
- 1:50Now, my thing is this. I'm going to do a little brief introduction.
- 1:54Oh, I take it back. This podcast, it's going to be like a little introduction.
- 1:57It's not going to be crazy. She is a poet.
- 2:00She does have a lot of wonderful writings.
- 2:03And I kind of felt, and this is me, is that I would have loved to kind of read
- 2:08some of her poems in this episode.
- 2:10But I decided, you know what? Her work is her work.
- 2:14And I will be doing another podcast real soon, probably within an episode of
- 2:20this one or two episodes in which I will be reading some artwork.
- 2:23And let me tell you something.
- 2:25Why is this person important in my life and important in the life of my family?
- 2:32Now, you know, it's going to be a little bit personal here, a little personal as I open up here.
- 2:38You know, my family, my mother, you know, the survivals of domestic violence.
- 2:43And for those people, I listen, even those people that know me.
- 2:46When it comes to domestic violence, I'm very vocal.
- 2:49Because it's something that hits our community. It hits the black community the most.
- 2:54And it hits the land community second in the United States here.
- 2:58So it's one of those things that I've always been vocal about.
- 3:01So, hey, we must protect women and we must do a better job because domestic
- 3:06violence in the household plays a lot.
- 3:09And keep in mind, this also happens to men. So, hey, just want to bring that up.
- 3:15So it's something that it's an issue that's very endearing to me because it
- 3:19does affect many things in the household, especially us, me,
- 3:24the son of a survival, who at that time was a victim of domestic violence,
- 3:28but a survival of that of my mother and my siblings were older than me.
- 3:33We went through a lot as young kids.
- 3:36And one of the things that happened in Puerto Rico, I was born in Bayamomo.
- 3:40I believe I was born in Rio Piedra. Hey, listen, I got to talk to some couple
- 3:44of people. I got to take my birth certificate again.
- 3:47But because of the situation that happened to my mother in the 80s back then
- 3:52when we was living in Puerto Rico, we wind up, or let's just say my mother,
- 3:58Grat does and wind up going to a refuge.
- 4:00And that refuge was called Julia de Vulgos. Hola Casa de Julia de Vulgos.
- 4:05And my mother, I believe, was the first person in that place.
- 4:09I believe that's what she mentioned to me.
- 4:12And it's interesting because that name, Julia de Vulgos.
- 4:17Stuck with me and it's like it's like it's a scar and then hey i'm not trying to say,
- 4:22nothing crazy about that it's just something where it's physically it's there
- 4:26it's ingrained imprinted in your mind your heart and soul with julia de vulgo's once again the poet,
- 4:34journalist and a teacher,
- 4:36and sadly she died at a young age of 39 in new york city in july 6 1953 I'm
- 4:42going to go back to the situation with my mother.
- 4:47It's a very interesting character. There will be something that will be named
- 4:50after her, streets, cultural arts, because the impact that she had made. Now, this is my thing.
- 4:56Because of some certain stories, unfortunately, we kind of have separated.
- 5:01And I'm not trying to say that it's not popular. But what I'm saying is that
- 5:04people have kind of, you know, used other means of art.
- 5:10And to know that the situation that happened to us and happened to my family,
- 5:15happened to my mother at that time being a victim of domestic violence,
- 5:20That's why I created this podcast, so we could all help each other collectively.
- 5:25And that name, Julia de Burgos, stood and stood and always stood in our family's
- 5:31history, and it always stood in our mind. That's why I said to myself, hey.
- 5:37So with that said, that connection with Julia de Burgos, she's a poet and artist.
- 5:44She was a feminist when before the feminist movement, way before it was co-opted
- 5:49of these corporations, these people with money.
- 5:53She was an advocate of the independence of Puerto Rico back in the 1940s,
- 5:58back then, before it got co-opted.
- 6:02She was the daughters of the freedom fighting.
- 6:06She was part of a lot of movement out there. I want to read some of her poems,
- 6:11some of her work, some of her art. Beautiful. It hits, it hits, it hits.
- 6:17And I'm going to tell you why her story, it hits me.
- 6:22And again, she's been out there. She has so many titles, this wonderful person.
- 6:26I believe that she is the eldest of 13 kids, something to that effect.
- 6:32So, hey, listen, she has a lot to carry on her back.
- 6:36And the fact that because of the situation that happened at my household and
- 6:40the household that I grew up to end up with Julia de Burgos,
- 6:44the poet once again, it makes me think that there was a time.
- 6:48And think about this. She was born in Puerto Rico and she made her way into New York city.
- 6:55And that reminds me of a kid by the name of David, who has, or who's a host
- 7:02of Deconstructing Topic podcast.
- 7:05Now with that said, I do remember that shout out to my mother.
- 7:09And my sister, too, believe it or not. There's some art there.
- 7:13You know what I'm saying? There's a connection there.
- 7:16And my brother's an artist in his own little way.
- 7:19In his own little way, he got a little thing going on. He does take time to try to draw something.
- 7:25But it's interesting how that art.
- 7:30You know, we got it for my mother and a little bit of my father as well.
- 7:36And we get to this household where it looks like the seeds of my future has
- 7:43been kind of said, if starting in my mother's womb,
- 7:48it was reminding me through where we was living in La Casa de Julia de Bulgo.
- 7:54And as I tell this little story in regards to her situation,
- 7:58and I'm doing a little bit of research, because, you know, Sally and I, be honest with you,
- 8:02it took me a while, a while to kind of How can I say, let me learn a little
- 8:09bit more about this individual.
- 8:11I know who she was.
- 8:13I know who she is. Am I understanding that she's a legend with over 200 poems?
- 8:20I got a lot of poems myself, but unfortunately with time, I lost some of them.
- 8:25I'm trying to go on the internet and see if I could find some that I published
- 8:2920, 25 years ago. Oh, wait, listen, if somebody could help me out here, I appreciate it.
- 8:36And lately, I've been going back to my creative side of poetry.
- 8:42And that's another beautiful podcast there.
- 8:46And if one of those things that if that situation in a moment of chaos with
- 8:52this group of family has enduring and trying to survive one of the worst moments in their lives.
- 9:01There goes that story of Julia de Vulgos.
- 9:04And when I started to learn more about Julia de Vulgo, there's a story and a
- 9:09sad story that led to her death that it hit me and to this day, it hit me.
- 9:15Now I want people to understand when it comes to artists,
- 9:19Any means, whether you're a painter or a poet or a singer or a stand-up comedian,
- 9:28whatever crap that you use to express that art, whatever platform.
- 9:33A lot of us, when it comes to writing, I say for those who like to enjoy writing,
- 9:38sometimes we hit a nerve.
- 9:40And when we hit that nerve, it's like we open a wound of something,
- 9:45of something of our past and something that hits.
- 9:48And that's the thing with us artists Is that why so many of us struggle And why so many of us,
- 9:56Go and find that little escape Whether it's drugs, alcohol Or all the memes,
- 10:02betting Whatever bad vice we just go to with.
- 10:05Ladies and gentlemen People in the middle People, whoever it is out there that's
- 10:11listening In the case of Julia DeVolgold Unfortunately, she did enjoy alcohol,
- 10:17and she was by any stretch not a lonely person my understanding she married
- 10:21a couple of times she had a couple of relationships,
- 10:24she was a beautiful person and gonna put the link and I want people to not only
- 10:28share this this nice little thing that we got going on because it does hit me
- 10:33and and when I was hearing about that story.
- 10:37It hit me because there are times that I do tend to find that alcohol. It's an escape.
- 10:44As much as I would say I'm enjoying it, like I tell a lot of people,
- 10:47a lot of people that know me, I'm networking, networking.
- 10:50I am networking, meaning I hit a place, I hit a bar, I hit a restaurant.
- 10:54I'm talking about my podcast. I'm doing this. But at the end of the day,
- 10:58I have a bill of $150, $60 that I spent all networking. And there's people that
- 11:04enjoy my companionship that they say, I got you. drinks on me. What you drinking?
- 11:09So that means I probably would have spent over $200 on liquor on one sitting in one night.
- 11:16But then you start to realize, David, are you really networking?
- 11:19Or are you just drowning in your sorrows?
- 11:22And when I was reading about that situation where Julia de Vulgo's as she was drinking,
- 11:27her sorrows as she was writing, and I always find interesting thing in life,
- 11:33that sometimes, and the one thing that's keeping us alive is the one thing that's killing us.
- 11:38Julia de Burgos was just drowning her sorrows through drinking.
- 11:44And again, I don't want people to think, well, you know, do you think that's
- 11:48a selfish act? Do you think, do you think, whatever.
- 11:52Again, as an artist and those people out there that are in the platform of expressing
- 11:59themselves through whatever art, sometimes we get stuck. We have that war.
- 12:05Sometimes we say to ourselves, what the hell, how can I, how can I cure this pain that I feel?
- 12:11I just wrote, I just drew, I just sang, I just did the most masterpiece of all masterpieces.
- 12:18And I'm here feeling sadness. And when you feel that sadness,
- 12:23you find a way to for a cure.
- 12:27And all the other world goes as The story goes, one night she was in a bar,
- 12:32drinking and drinking and drinking her sorrows.
- 12:37Her heartbreak. My understanding is that even though the spike she has married a couple of times,
- 12:42even though she has relationships, even though she preached feminism,
- 12:47and her feminism was that I don't need to belong to somebody,
- 12:52despite that she always felt,
- 12:55that in order to find balance, she needs to be with somebody.
- 12:59And in the case of Julio de Vulgo, a lot of those relationships,
- 13:04They all ended up in heartbreak And unfortunately as she was drinking,
- 13:10One day she got sick in the rain And died of pneumonia They found her in the
- 13:16streets A man laid down dead At the age of 39 On July 6, 1953.
- 13:25I'll be honest with you When I read that years ago When I heard about that story
- 13:31So long time ago It hit me because I felt that way.
- 13:37And it hit me because there's stories and stories.
- 13:42And in my podcast, all I've been telling people is stories. And I appreciate
- 13:48people listening to me because you are my family. You are going to share this.
- 13:52You're going to hit the like button. You're going to feel common.
- 13:55And we're going to just collectively be there for each other.
- 13:59But it did hit me hard to realize how sometimes there are that connection to
- 14:06that person through the chaos, a moment of chaos,
- 14:10that I went through as a child to think that I was in a way,
- 14:16living in a way through her spirit or what she went through.
- 14:21Because I also deal with a lot of heartaches. And I'm dealing with,
- 14:26you could say that, I'm dealing with a little situation that's hitting,
- 14:30different than any other situation that's hitting.
- 14:33But you see, I'm going to the gym. I'm doing my thing. I love my job.
- 14:37I'm back writing, but I'm trying to avoid and cut down on this networking and
- 14:42drinking. Hey, I can network. I'm just saying, I'm just going to network.
- 14:46But David, relax with the drinks because you're going to be drowning in your
- 14:50sorrow. And sometimes what happened to Julia de Burgos, she already did her
- 14:55deeds and she already cemented a legacy in this world.
- 15:00And people know who she was and people knew who she was. I mean,
- 15:03you know, sadly, this is not a situation where somebody had to die in order
- 15:08for one to say, oh, man, you know.
- 15:10No, when she lived, she went all out.
- 15:13And she was considered one of the best poets in the Caribbean and Latin nations
- 15:18in South America, Mexico, and all. And all.
- 15:22Let's go. And in the United States, of course. But it definitely hits hard.
- 15:27And that's why I'm dedicating this podcast.
- 15:29Not just to my mother, to my family, my sister, my brother, myself.
- 15:34But those people out there who are going through a lot.
- 15:38Those artists who are going through a lot through emotional times,
- 15:41Especially for those who are writing. That's my thing. I'm here.
- 15:45I'm here. For every Juliade Bulgos, there's going to be people like me that's
- 15:49going to be the voice of hope. And I'm going to fight. And I'm going to fight on your behalf.
- 15:53And I'm going to speak on your behalf. I'm here.
- 15:57And I'm dedicating that to all individuals out there.
- 16:01Those artists out there. I love you all. And we've got to make it happen.
- 16:06Because unfortunately in life, we just cannot explain certain things.
- 16:11But one thing that we can do together, just like Julia de Bungos,
- 16:15is to just write and write and express ourself.
- 16:20And please do not allow yourself to fall into a trap where your life is cut
- 16:27short to whatever the danger or the vat vice you get on. I'm here.
- 16:34All my links, whether it's my Instagram, my email.
- 16:37If anybody want to reach out to me and talk, let's make it happen.
- 16:41Once again, this is Deconstructing Topic Podcast. I hope that you guys enjoyed
- 16:46this episode, because we're definitely going to make it happen.
- 16:49Much love. I'm out of here. Peace.