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Mac & Bone Hour 3: College Football Confidence · Mac & Bone Podcast

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Speaker 3: Mack and Bo with you, 8 o'clockers.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to a football Friday, a real football Friday. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the Panthers preseason entertained us, but in week zero, we
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Speaker 1: had some vested interest in week zero. There was some good,
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Speaker 1: Tar Heels, some bad, NC State. But now we've got
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Speaker 1: the full-on week one college football experience coming up, and
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Speaker 1: it's a Friday staple. It is time for For college
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Speaker 1: football confidence, I want to know which.
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Speaker 3: Fans out there are feeling confident.
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Speaker 1: I want to know how you're feeling going into your games,
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Speaker 1: Clemson fans against LSU. Do we have any ECU? ECU
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Speaker 1: Pirate fans have been quiet this summer, it feels like.
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Speaker 3: Normally, the summer is when they do their most talking.
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Speaker 1: Do y'all have any... Any feelings of covering the spread
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Speaker 1: at least? Or are you thinking we'll take our whooping
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Speaker 1: and then we'll go beat App State next week? Because
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Speaker 1: that's a pretty important one for y'all coming up next week. Louisville, Mississippi.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if we have fans. involved in that one.
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Speaker 1: And then we've got Charlotte and at both in action
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Speaker 1: against Citadel of Maine. We've got the debut bone of
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Speaker 1: Kendall Bryles as OC for your Gamecocks against Kent State.
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Speaker 1: So it could be a general, how are you feeling
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Speaker 1: about your team going into the season? Duke Tulane, Duke
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Speaker 1: needs to get revenge, man. So We got a lot
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Speaker 1: of different games we could talk about, so I guess
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Speaker 1: it could be twofold. How are you feeling about your
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Speaker 1: team going into the season? Or specifically, how are you
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Speaker 1: feeling about the game coming up this weekend, 7-0-4, 5-7-0, 9-6-10?
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Speaker 3: Television's Joe Bruno, the award-winning Joe Bruno, fired up Elon
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Speaker 3: Davidson tomorrow here in town. It's a big one, baby.
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Speaker 1: Can we get some Phoenix fans and some Davidson fans
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Speaker 1: getting after each other on the text line?
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Speaker 3: All fans are welcome. Finney, by the way, you have
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Speaker 3: me in a hell right now. Because you angered Willie
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Speaker 3: P this morning, he's now texting me, going off on
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Speaker 3: the classless FCS program that Missouri's had to face because
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Speaker 3: Central Arkansas injured the Missouri quarterback and kicker a year ago. Finney,
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Speaker 3: you've got me now having conversations with Willie P just
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Speaker 3: because you had to make a joke about Missouri not
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Speaker 3: covering the spread two hours ago. I feel like we've
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Speaker 3: lost the plot here.
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Speaker 4: He also had to deflect because he was trying to
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Speaker 4: brag about attending a doubleheader like 10 years ago on
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Speaker 4: a game that happened on a Saturday and one was
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Speaker 4: on a Sunday.
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Speaker 2: So I had to correct him, say, that's not a doubleheader.
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Speaker 2: You had a back-to-back.
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Speaker 4: So now he's having to find another way to take
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Speaker 4: out his boredom.
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Speaker 2: Willie, I got an idea. Get those boards ready for
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Speaker 2: tomorrow night.
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Speaker 3: Big game tomorrow night, man. Y'all got to stay hot, baby.
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Speaker 2: And I cannot wait to go back and re-watch that
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Speaker 2: game on Sunday morning, too.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about— you' re going to watch it three times this weekend.
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Speaker 1: Soccer Fitty is so locked in. Let's talk about the
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Speaker 1: college football games, Bone, that are going on this weekend.
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Speaker 1: South Carolina fans are chiming in. Casey and Rock Hill,
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Speaker 1: Lenores and Bryles going to make some magic this year.
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Speaker 1: Gamecocks going to shock the world. How fired up are
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Speaker 1: you about this Gamecocks season? And do you think the
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Speaker 1: offense tomorrow, day one, because we did see an old
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Speaker 1: Dominion situation.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Do you think we see that for two years ago?
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Speaker 1: Or do you think the offense under Kendall Bryles game
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Speaker 1: one goes off?
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Speaker 3: They better go off because if this team wants to
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Speaker 3: be as good as I think they should be, I
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Speaker 3: think when Norris Sellers, Kendall Bryles, that offense has to
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Speaker 3: make a statement early. One thing under Shane Beamer, Maggie,
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Speaker 3: a couple years ago, they barely beat Old D.U., Remember
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Speaker 3: last year, Mac, against South Carolina State, despite winning 38-10,
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Speaker 3: Bakari Swain had to return a couple of kicks to
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Speaker 3: the house to extend the lead out there. Hell, Virginia
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Speaker 3: Tech last year, the offense didn't really come out looking
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Speaker 3: the part. I know it's only Kent State, but that
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Speaker 3: offense tomorrow needs to make a statement early because, quite frankly,
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Speaker 3: in the first few games the last couple years, they
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Speaker 3: have not done that. But Sellers needs to look different tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: This better not be a... South Carolina's up 17-13, start
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Speaker 3: of the fourth quarter. We've seen that before. ODU, they
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Speaker 3: better end this game early and put up. I want
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Speaker 3: some big numbers tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: I don't blame you, man. I want a statement-type game tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Don't you want to see that offense bounce back?
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Speaker 3: I know this.
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Speaker 1: If the TCU offensive performance without Kendall Bryles is any indication, Bone,
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Speaker 1: he may be an offensive genius. And Hoover might win
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Speaker 1: the Heisman. He'd be a damn offensive genius. Either that
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Speaker 1: or Hoover's the next great quarterback. But, yeah, I think
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Speaker 1: they could start with a bang for a change. And
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Speaker 1: they have been slow starters. How about the slow starts
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Speaker 1: Clemson has had? We talked about with Chapel Fowler yesterday. Bone,
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Speaker 1: they averaged six points a game in their last three openers.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it is ridiculous how bad they've been offensively,
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Speaker 1: including one against your Duke Blue Devils, where they didn't
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Speaker 1: even get to double digits in that game. Last year,
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Speaker 1: they got a big hole 10 bone against LSU. I
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Speaker 1: do not sense much college football confidence in the Clemson
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Speaker 1: fan base.
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Speaker 3: No, they're focused on South Carolina more than they are LSU.
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Speaker 1: I don't sense much confidence from Clemson fans in this game.
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Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about this game a bunch
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Speaker 1: moving forward. I fear, like you said, Bone, you wonder
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Speaker 1: if LSU's distracted by all the stuff going on. The
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Speaker 1: more I think about it, I fear for Clemson that
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Speaker 1: the more likely angle is that Lane Kiffin has those
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Speaker 1: guys in a lather because of all the bleep that's
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Speaker 1: been talked about their head coach and their football program
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Speaker 1: being the bad guys. The more I think about it,
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Speaker 1: isn't that something that you could see Lane Kiffin being
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Speaker 1: able to rally his players behind?
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Speaker 3: It's us against the world.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: If anyone can do it, it's probably him. I'm starting
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Speaker 3: to worry.
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Speaker 1: Is that going to be the motivational angle? Now, on
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Speaker 1: the other hand, you have Dabo trying to use the,
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Speaker 1: we're a bunch of nobodies this week. He said, bone,
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Speaker 1: we don't have any starters. We got guys that'll go
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Speaker 1: down there and play at the beginning of the game,
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Speaker 1: but we.
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Speaker 3: Don't have anybody.
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Speaker 1: It's a starter right now. Like that's the whole thing.
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Speaker 1: What was us? We don't have any players. He's trying
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Speaker 1: to fire his guys up that way. Also Lane Kiffin,
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Speaker 1: by the way, 48 transfers. 40 million, over $ 40 million
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Speaker 1: spent on the roster. I just fear they're just too,
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Speaker 1: they're just so much more talented than Clemson.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but sometimes talented teams take a little bit of
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Speaker 3: time to gel. They're all new. Everything is new. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: that's the hope. That's the Clemson hope. It's not only
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Speaker 3: the distraction angle that we've talked about, it's the hope
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Speaker 3: of they're not in sync yet because it is, in
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Speaker 3: this day and age, It is a talented, expensive roster,
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Speaker 3: but they're by no means a finished product. They're all
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Speaker 3: getting used to each other. The head coach, the quarterback,
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Speaker 3: everybody is basically new at LSU. So I do think
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Speaker 3: that's the hope for Clemson is that LSU will just
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Speaker 3: take a little more time. If they were playing this
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Speaker 3: game three or four weeks from now, I'd say, oh,
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Speaker 3: that could be a big problem. But they get them
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Speaker 3: early when LSU is still trying to figure things out.
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Speaker 3: I think that's the hope for Clemson to play within
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Speaker 3: the point spread. So are you thinking Clemson covers?
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Because, yeah, you do seem to have a little Clemson confidence,
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Speaker 1: maybe more than the Tiger fans themselves.
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Speaker 3: And if I have to go out on a limb
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Speaker 3: and guarantee a Clemson win and lock it up, I'll
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Speaker 3: do that also. Oh, my God. By the way, my
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Speaker 3: betting so far this year, it is not. I'm on the,
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Speaker 3: I don't really know what Schneid is, but I'm on
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Speaker 3: it right now.
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Speaker 1: A Schneid is what Finney has in his love life.
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Speaker 1: I'll just put it that way for you. It's akin
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Speaker 1: to a slump. I am full Schneid. So Clemson fans,
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Speaker 1: we can't even get any, we're going to hang in
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Speaker 1: this game and have a shot to win late when
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Speaker 1: your rival South Carolina fan bone thinks you hang in it.
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Speaker 3: I've gone back and.
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Speaker 1: Forth between does Clemson cover the spread and I get
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Speaker 1: what you're saying. Like, is it the best time to
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Speaker 1: play LSU with all the new parts? By the way,
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Speaker 1: if you do want some hope, Clemson fans, when Lane
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Speaker 1: Kiffin started Mississippi, now he didn't have this talent, and
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Speaker 1: he's probably taken over a program bone that was further
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Speaker 1: back at the time. When he took over at Ole
8:56
Speaker 1: Miss bone, he started one and four. So he did
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Speaker 1: not start his tenure well there. By the end of it,
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Speaker 1: he was unbelievable, right, with what he accomplished there.
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Speaker 3: We have more fans of Elon... The Florida Gators. Who's
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Speaker 3: another one on there? There's another one on there. ECU. ECU.
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Speaker 3: Then we do have Clemson. We have three Elon fans
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Speaker 3: and two Clemson fans. We've got all in since 79.
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Speaker 3: Says Mac, for the record, I told you earlier this week,
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Speaker 3: we will win at LSU. Here's another one. I don't
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Speaker 3: know if he's a Clemson fan. Rocky Mountain Oyster says
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Speaker 3: Clemson wins by six. As far as ECU goes, our
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Speaker 3: guy Scotty from the Crown Club, proud ECU alum, says
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Speaker 3: ECU wins by six.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's betting on that, though, Bone. What
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Speaker 1: do you think of ECU? Cover the spread? Hang in
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Speaker 1: the game for a while? Or have they just lost
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Speaker 1: too much talent? One of the guys I was watching
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Speaker 1: last night, Caden Houser in Illinois, they lost so many
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Speaker 1: primo players that are power four caliber.
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Speaker 3: Ten of them to power four programs. What's the spread?
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Speaker 3: 28 and a half? Yeah, yeah. I wouldn't bet that one,
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Speaker 3: but I would say that if I did, I would
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Speaker 3: say that ECU, it's probably right near that, but I
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Speaker 3: would say ECU barely covers that. Because Bama... Backdoor cover.
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Speaker 2: Even, maybe?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bama's got a new quarterback, too. Again, they're talented
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Speaker 3: as hell. We know that, and they're much more talented.
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Speaker 3: But again, Keelan Russell's going to have to figure it out, too.
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Speaker 3: Freshman QB. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Talented as hell, but it's like, does he have some
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Speaker 1: struggles early that allow ECU to hang around? The problem
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Speaker 1: is ECU's got a new QB in Mitch Griffiths.
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Speaker 3: Not new. He's old as dirt.
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Speaker 1: He was Riley Skinner's backup at Wake Forest. They've got
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Speaker 1: a new offensive system there. It's a good one with
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Speaker 1: Jordan Davis from.
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Speaker 1: North Texas, but there's a lot of new parts there
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Speaker 1: for ECU as well. This texter says, Mac, all I
11:03
Speaker 1: know is I'm glad ECU Pirate football is back. I
11:05
Speaker 1: have no idea what we have. I have no idea
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Speaker 1: what we'll do against Alabama, but if we don't beat
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Speaker 1: App State, I'm furious. Yeah, it almost feels like, Bone,
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Speaker 1: I know there's a bunch of ECU fans. A few
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Speaker 1: of them that are going to this game. I guess
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Speaker 1: Collins Janis, one of our coworkers here, is going to
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Speaker 1: the game. We had a couple of texters this week saying, hey,
11:25
Speaker 1: I'm going to Tuscaloosa for the experience. Hell, I just
11:28
Speaker 1: saw Jim Zoki said he's headed out, and he's flying
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Speaker 1: out today to go to Tuscaloosa to call the game
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Speaker 1: on the ECU radio network. I feel like this is
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Speaker 1: a game that's kind of about the experience. Go ahead, boys,
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Speaker 1: let it rip. See if you can hang in there
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Speaker 1: for a while. Next week is one that feels non-negotiable.
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Speaker 1: App State has beaten ECU the last three times, Bone.
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Speaker 1: They need that game desperately next week.
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Speaker 3: Especially this form of App State, a team that is
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Speaker 3: a program trying to find itself. Mac, right now, 96%
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Speaker 3: of the money line is on Bama, obviously. 70% of
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Speaker 3: the spread. of the money coming in right now is
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Speaker 3: on Bama covering the spread. ECU not getting much love there, man.
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Speaker 3: Who's the 4% that put the money line bet on?
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Speaker 3: I guess it's just trying a miracle bet, I guess.
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Speaker 3: Scotty from the Crown Club, maybe he did bet. Maybe
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Speaker 3: he did put big.
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Speaker 1: Money on there.
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Speaker 3: I think he really did.
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Speaker 1: You know a school that I think, it's not necessarily
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Speaker 1: a local game, I think Auburn's winning by double digits
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Speaker 1: tomorrow against Baylor. One of the kind of intriguing national games.
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Speaker 1: Not great, but 330, Bone. An interesting one, the rematch
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Speaker 1: of last year, the Friday night one. You talk about
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Speaker 1: lack of continuity everywhere, right? I like these coaches, Bone,
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Speaker 1: that bring a bleep ton of players with them. And
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Speaker 1: that's what Alex Golesh is doing at Auburn. Double-digit players,
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Speaker 1: he's bringing with him from a good South Florida team
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Speaker 1: last year. The receiving core is almost exclusively South Florida guys,
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Speaker 1: and the QB is a stud in Byron Brown, who
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Speaker 1: threw for 3,000, ran for 1,000 last year. And, like,
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Speaker 1: are those South Florida guys, Bone, good enough to win
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Speaker 1: a bunch of SEC games?
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Speaker 3: That I'm not sure about.
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Speaker 1: Are they good enough, Bone, to win by double digits
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Speaker 1: against Dave Aranda's Baylor team I can't believe Aranda still
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Speaker 1: has a job I gotta be honest with you man
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Speaker 1: yeah um DJ Lagway is his quarterback how bad was
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Speaker 1: he last year with 14 interceptions in Florida I I
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Speaker 1: just feel like Auburn is gonna have a good day
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Speaker 1: the game's in Atlanta so you know even though they
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Speaker 1: called a neutral site you know Auburn is gonna have
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Speaker 1: the fan advantage so I feel like Auburn fans should
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Speaker 1: be feeling saucy maybe not for the season.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Baylor's trending the other way, and I expect Auburn
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Speaker 3: to start trending upward. So I'm with you on that. Mac,
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Speaker 3: we haven't mentioned this game. Do you know what the
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Speaker 3: best fan matchup is this weekend when you think about
13:50
Speaker 3: two fan bases coming together? We have not thought about
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Speaker 3: this yet. West Virginia is hosting. Coastal Carolina. Oh, baby.
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Speaker 3: Dirty Myrtle. We have Myrtle Beach going to West Virginia
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Speaker 3: this weekend. Myrtle meets Morgantown. Collision course, baby. The images
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Speaker 3: that can come out of that game. I need to see.
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Speaker 3: Is anyone attending that game? Please let us know.
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Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness, man. That is a good point. I
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Speaker 1: didn't really think about that one. West Virginia favored by 21.
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Speaker 1: New coach for Coastal, Ryan Beard. But still, just the
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Speaker 1: optics of those fan bases together. That should be a documentary.
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Speaker 1: I like that one. That should be an E60. I
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Speaker 1: like that one.
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Speaker 3: 704-570-9610. Clemson fans trying to confirm I'm picking LSU. I am.
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Speaker 1: We're going to talk more about that game as the
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Speaker 1: show goes on here, so I don't want to spoil
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Speaker 1: it too much. I do wonder, Bone, if we have
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Speaker 1: any LSU fans out there. We had an Ole Miss
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Speaker 1: fan earlier. that texted in um and it's not andrew
14:51
Speaker 1: norwell's agent that means we actually have two old miss
14:53
Speaker 1: fans in he changed in the audience he changed his
14:56
Speaker 1: name on there now oh did he yeah he's dan
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Speaker 1: something now oh this wasn't it okay so we got
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Speaker 1: at least two old miss fans dude says how good
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Speaker 1: am i feeling as an old miss fan we no
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Speaker 1: longer have that jerk lane kiffin as our coach And
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Speaker 1: we're fixing to beat Louisville on Sunday night.
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Speaker 3: So there you go.
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Speaker 1: We're going to talk later about the Louisville and Clemson
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Speaker 1: games and kind of compare them and talk about the
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Speaker 1: ACC this weekend, Bo, and some of the non-conference matchups.
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Speaker 1: They already lost one last night for Georgia Tech against Colorado,
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Speaker 1: but they won one for UNC last week against TCU.
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Speaker 3: And we're going to talk about it more there. I
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Speaker 3: will say this. I.
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Speaker 1: I think Louisville's going to represent the ACC well.
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Speaker 3: I don't know. It's good. It'll be a fun game.
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Speaker 3: There's too much talent on the field, I think, for
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Speaker 3: that to be a slog. Like Colorado Georgia Tech was.
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Speaker 3: I think there'll be some points. Mackay Texter says he
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Speaker 3: guarantees Elon Davidson will be a bigger party than Coastal
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Speaker 3: West Virginia. Y'all going to....
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Speaker 1: What are y'all going to do? Have like a book
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Speaker 1: off or whatever? Read a bunch of books together? I mean,
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Speaker 1: what are y'all going to do up there in Davidson?
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense. Trey in Minn City says,
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Speaker 1: what's the over-under of mullets in the crowd at Coastal
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Speaker 1: versus West Virginia? There'll be more mullets than not. What
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Speaker 1: is App State Zach saying? Myrtle versus Morgantown. The mullet
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Speaker 1: skull banded Bush Ice Bowl. I can't laugh at mullets
16:31
Speaker 1: because my mullet's back, man.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: My mullet is back on. You've got a European golfer
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Speaker 3: haircut going on right now. Is that better than a mullet?
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Speaker 3: I don't know. A little Tommy Fleetwood-ish. All right, we
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Speaker 3: come back, Mac. We're going to talk to Tyler Fulgham.
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Speaker 3: He works for ESPN on the betting and the fantasy
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Speaker 3: side as well. He did a piece the other day
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Speaker 3: on what to expect from the NFC South teams. We'll
16:55
Speaker 3: talk about the projections, the numbers, the betting side of
16:58
Speaker 3: the NFC South teams coming up next. Tyler's on with
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Speaker 3: Mac and Bone Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ. Sports Radio 92.7 WFMT,
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Speaker 3: Mack and Bone with you.
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Speaker 1: Talking a ton of college football today on the show. Remember,
17:29
Speaker 1: if you miss any of the segments, there was a
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Speaker 1: lot of talk earlier about the WRAL reports, about the
17:37
Speaker 1: stuff that the lawyers were doing.
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Speaker 3: Are investigating at UNC.
17:42
Speaker 1: UNC has commissioned an independent investigation of their football program.
17:46
Speaker 1: Michael Lombardi resigned yesterday. We talked a lot about that.
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Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about the matchups, and we'll continue
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Speaker 1: to do so. Check out the parts you miss in
17:55
Speaker 1: podcast form. Every hour is a podcast, right?
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Speaker 3: So you miss... an hour.
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Speaker 1: Go check it out later today or this weekend. WFNZ.com
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Speaker 1: on demand section or Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get
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Speaker 1: your podcasts. We're hoping to get Tyler Fulgham on ESPN
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Speaker 1: betting guru on here in a couple of minutes.
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Speaker 3: We have a developing situation. During the break, we got
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Speaker 3: texts from Willie P. We found out that Tyler is
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Speaker 3: one of Willie's guys from college. They were classmates. He said,
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Speaker 3: tell him who the real sauce boss is. All these
18:30
Speaker 3: stories about Tyler. And then 50 called Tyler and we
18:33
Speaker 3: got sent straight to voicemail. Talking to the sauce boss here. Oh, man.
18:39
Speaker 3: It feels like whenever Willie tells us about his friends,
18:43
Speaker 3: Eddie Royal, we haven't got him on since then. Rossy
18:46
Speaker 3: Ross Dellinger. Hasn't been on with us since then. There
18:50
Speaker 3: seems to be a theme here, Mac, of Willie's guys
18:52
Speaker 3: find out where they're calling into, and then they don't
18:55
Speaker 3: come on with us again.
18:56
Speaker 1: Willie's one-sided Mizzou friendships, man. Is this a storyline developing boat?
19:03
Speaker 1: It was uncanny, too, because we're all excited. I think
19:05
Speaker 1: he's there now. Oh, we got him.
19:06
Speaker 3: We're good. We're good. Willie, we take him back, baby.
19:08
Speaker 3: Did Willie put in the call? We take him back.
19:09
Speaker 3: Willie probably called, didn't he?
19:11
Speaker 1: Willie, when are you going to put in a word
19:13
Speaker 1: for your other friend from Mizzou, the lovely Kay Adams?
19:16
Speaker 1: When are you going to put in a word for
19:17
Speaker 1: her to come on with your boys Mac and Boat?
19:20
Speaker 1: That's what we're looking for.
19:21
Speaker 3: All right.
19:22
Speaker 1: But, hey, just because Kay Adams might be our most
19:26
Speaker 1: favorite Mizzou alumbo that went to school with our very
19:31
Speaker 1: own Willie P., Will Pelagic, we all– doesn't mean we
19:34
Speaker 1: don't love this guy as well. He is one of
19:38
Speaker 1: the great betting analysts at ESPN, hosts SportsCenter a bunch now, too.
19:44
Speaker 1: They got him working, man. And he had some very
19:48
Speaker 1: interesting thoughts, Bone, about NFC South teams, including our Panthers,
19:52
Speaker 1: from a betting standpoint. You know we can ask him
19:54
Speaker 1: some college football betting questions, too. He is ESPN's Tyler Fulgham,
19:58
Speaker 1: and he joins us here on the Mac and Bone show.
20:01
Speaker 3: Tyler, thank you for coming on, man. How you doing?
20:05
Speaker 5: I'm doing great, yeah. I just got a text from
20:07
Speaker 5: Willie P, too. He said, hey, I heard You're about
20:09
Speaker 5: to be on my station. So, yeah, dude, I got
20:13
Speaker 5: to run. So shout out Willie P, my guy.
20:15
Speaker 3: I love it. There we go. He wanted me to
20:17
Speaker 3: tell you, quote, that he's the real sauce boss.
20:21
Speaker 5: Come on, Willie P. You know better than that.
20:23
Speaker 3: You know better than that. Because you've been on Food
20:26
Speaker 3: Network before, right?
20:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been a contestant on guys' grocery games a
20:31
Speaker 5: couple years ago. I competed, and it was like a
20:34
Speaker 5: mini-series within the series where it was like multiple episodes.
20:38
Speaker 5: like a small tournament within Guy's Grocery Games.
20:41
Speaker 3: Nice. You're basically living Willie's dream life. You're hosting SportsCenter,
20:45
Speaker 3: and you're on with Guy Fieri. Oh, that's big. That's big.
20:48
Speaker 1: Mizzou putting out some food guys. Mizzou puts out food
20:51
Speaker 1: guys and sports media members, Tyler.
20:55
Speaker 5: What we do there in the midwest not much else.
20:58
Speaker 1: I love it baby i love it all right so
21:01
Speaker 1: um uh you were you you had the thoughts um
21:04
Speaker 1: on some of the nfc south teams that really caught
21:07
Speaker 1: our eye this past weekend let's start with the main
21:11
Speaker 1: one in regards to the panthers how do you feel
21:14
Speaker 1: about that panther over under number going into the season Yeah.
21:19
Speaker 5: It's lined at six and a half, seven and a half.
21:21
Speaker 5: Depends on where you're shopping. We at ESPN are grafting.
21:24
Speaker 5: So I went down to six and a half for
21:28
Speaker 5: a little more juice at minus 166. But I do
21:31
Speaker 5: think this team, based off what they did last year,
21:33
Speaker 5: is ready to kind of kind of grow a little bit.
21:36
Speaker 5: I went over six and a half wins. If you
21:37
Speaker 5: want to go over seven and a half, I think
21:39
Speaker 5: it's plus money. But, you know, I bought a little
21:42
Speaker 5: extra security there for seven instead of eight. I do
21:45
Speaker 5: think they can get over two and a half division wins.
21:46
Speaker 5: I think they know at least 500 in the division
21:48
Speaker 5: as well. That's minus 165 at DraftKings. And if you're
21:51
Speaker 5: going to win seven or eight games, they probably need
21:53
Speaker 5: to win at least half of their NFC South game.
21:56
Speaker 5: We know that division is, you know, one that's been
22:00
Speaker 5: mired in mediocrity. It doesn't take a lot to win
22:02
Speaker 5: that division. So that's why I think they are a
22:04
Speaker 5: legit contender in the division. I think almost everyone except
22:09
Speaker 5: for Atlanta because of their QB issues, and we'll see
22:11
Speaker 5: if Michael Pinnock is able to be healthy enough, can
22:14
Speaker 5: compete for that division. But I do think this is
22:16
Speaker 5: a seven, eight-win team. If they absolutely hit their ceiling,
22:20
Speaker 5: nine or ten wins. Bryce Young, though, I do think
22:24
Speaker 5: Dave Canales is still going to want to hide him,
22:27
Speaker 5: especially because The receiving core took some hits with injury
22:31
Speaker 5: here this season. They still have Ted McMillan and Jalen Coker,
22:34
Speaker 5: but I do think they're going to try and lean
22:36
Speaker 5: on Chuba Hubbard and Jonathan Brooks, especially now that he
22:38
Speaker 5: appears to be somewhat healthy. I don't know. He was
22:40
Speaker 5: off to the side, in fact, this week. So I
22:42
Speaker 5: went under 20.5 passing TDs for Bryce Young. Just concerned
22:46
Speaker 5: about injury. and think this will be a run-first team
22:48
Speaker 5: that relies on the run game and defense to try
22:51
Speaker 5: and win games.
22:51
Speaker 3: How much of the offensive line concerns you right now
22:54
Speaker 3: when it comes to Bryce? Because it was not a
22:56
Speaker 3: good showing here in the preseason.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's another reason, another factor into my under 20.5
23:03
Speaker 5: passing touchdowns for the season. Bryce is obviously not the
23:06
Speaker 5: biggest guy, and it doesn't appear that he's going to
23:08
Speaker 5: have the best offensive line they're from. It's not going
23:12
Speaker 5: to be Buffalo's offensive line or Denver's offensive line. It
23:15
Speaker 5: could be a bottom half of the league offensive line.
23:17
Speaker 5: And if he takes a bad hit, he misses some
23:20
Speaker 5: games because of the slight stature. And again, the fact
23:22
Speaker 5: that I don't think they're going to be a pass-first
23:24
Speaker 5: team at all, that's why I'm under 20.5 passing TDs
23:26
Speaker 5: for the season.
23:27
Speaker 1: We're talking to betting analyst from ESPN, Tyler Fulgham, here
23:30
Speaker 1: on the Mac and Bone Show. Yeah, it seemed like
23:33
Speaker 1: you went under on two bets in the NFC South
23:37
Speaker 1: last Atlanta, as you said, was one of those. You
23:39
Speaker 1: went over on two, and the Panthers were one of them,
23:42
Speaker 1: but you also went over on the Saints number. Talk
23:45
Speaker 1: about that a little bit. I clearly am trying not
23:48
Speaker 1: to trash talk the Saints, Tyler, because they beat the
23:51
Speaker 1: dang Panthers twice last year.
23:53
Speaker 3: I'm trying not to say anything.
23:55
Speaker 1: It did look like Tyler Shuck has a little something,
23:58
Speaker 1: the way he played down the stretch.
24:00
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on the Saints? Are they your
24:03
Speaker 3: pick in the division?
24:05
Speaker 5: They are. I have them as the best bet at
24:09
Speaker 5: plus 270. It doesn't mean necessarily, and that's what happens
24:13
Speaker 5: oftentimes with betting analysts, like making a smart bet doesn't
24:18
Speaker 5: necessarily mean it's the thing that you think is going
24:20
Speaker 5: to happen. What you're trying to do is buy probability
24:24
Speaker 5: on a value. And I think the probability of the
24:27
Speaker 5: Saints winning the division at plus 270 is a good value. That's,
24:32
Speaker 5: you know, like a 30% to 35% chance, and I
24:36
Speaker 5: think they're closer to like a 40% or 50% chance.
24:39
Speaker 5: I'm going over 7.5 wins. I think Kellen Moore is
24:42
Speaker 5: a really good head coach. I think Tyler Shuck in
24:45
Speaker 5: that offense can be really good, adding Travis Etienne. I
24:47
Speaker 5: think they have a decent offensive line. The Jordan Tyson
24:51
Speaker 5: injury hurts, but I do think the Saints at plus
24:55
Speaker 5: 270 are the best value amongst the four teams in
24:58
Speaker 5: that division.
24:59
Speaker 3: To win it.
25:00
Speaker 5: So I like them over seven and a half wins again,
25:03
Speaker 5: eight or nine, maybe all it takes to win the
25:06
Speaker 5: NFC South. If these teams beat up on each other,
25:08
Speaker 5: I think Travis ATM because of the Alvin Camara injury
25:11
Speaker 5: is I rarely like to bet season long overs because
25:14
Speaker 5: normally in the game of football, you're going to be injured.
25:17
Speaker 5: Things are going to happen. Unders are far more likely
25:19
Speaker 5: to happen for season long props, but one of the
25:21
Speaker 5: rare season long oval props I'm taking is Travis ATM
25:24
Speaker 5: over eight or 24 and a half rushing yards. They
25:26
Speaker 5: paid the man, they're going to want to use the man,
25:28
Speaker 5: and they're going to have to lean on the man
25:30
Speaker 5: in the first few weeks of the season because it
25:31
Speaker 5: looks like Kamara and that running back room is thin
25:34
Speaker 5: behind him.
25:35
Speaker 3: Tyler, you mentioned McMillan earlier in one of your breakdowns.
25:40
Speaker 3: What's your numbers and betting perspective on the year that
25:43
Speaker 3: TMAC could have?
25:45
Speaker 5: Yeah, I really liked the proposition of TMAC having another
25:50
Speaker 5: big year. I think he's a really good receiver. I
25:53
Speaker 5: think the Chris Brazel injury can kind of sneaky, potentially
25:57
Speaker 5: be bad for TMAC because Brazel was going to be
26:01
Speaker 5: one of those guys who was on the field to
26:03
Speaker 5: be a tactical weapon. Use his long speed to threaten
26:06
Speaker 5: the defense over the top and create more space for
26:09
Speaker 5: TMAC to work in the short and intermediate areas. Now
26:11
Speaker 5: with that speed gone and that threat gone from the
26:14
Speaker 5: receiving core, defense is potentially... could tighten things up in
26:18
Speaker 5: the short intermediate area. But T-Back is a beast. He's big.
26:21
Speaker 5: He's strong. He can win even if he's not creating separation,
26:24
Speaker 5: but he's still able to do that at his size.
26:27
Speaker 5: So his line was just one I wanted to stay
26:29
Speaker 5: away from. I think it was right at 1,000 yards
26:32
Speaker 5: for his over-under, which I think is a good line.
26:35
Speaker 5: I don't see an edge one way or the other,
26:37
Speaker 5: so that's why I stayed away from it. Wouldn't be
26:39
Speaker 5: shocked at all. Again, if he goes over a thousand yards,
26:41
Speaker 5: but again, my thesis is this is going to be
26:43
Speaker 5: a run first team. I'm not going to bet on
26:45
Speaker 5: him going over for a team that I think theoretically
26:48
Speaker 5: is going to lean more into the run. So if
26:50
Speaker 5: I was more likely to bet on a season long over,
26:53
Speaker 5: if I knew Jonathan Brooks was going to be healthy
26:54
Speaker 5: for 17 games, I'd hammer his over prop because it's
26:57
Speaker 5: going to be very, very low since he hasn't played
26:58
Speaker 5: a game in the NFL so far.
27:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tempting one because you know he has
27:03
Speaker 1: the ability, but it's just a matter of does he
27:06
Speaker 1: stay healthy. Tyler, I'll ask you about the Bucs, another
27:11
Speaker 1: team you were talking about, hey, playing the under. They're
27:13
Speaker 1: the favorite, though, to win the division. What do you
27:16
Speaker 1: feel about this Bucs team this year?
27:19
Speaker 3: I know this. We're hoping to see one that resembles.
27:22
Speaker 1: The second half of the year last year here in
27:24
Speaker 1: Carolina more than the first half of the year.
27:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have them under 8.5 wins. That's minus 136.
27:30
Speaker 5: Under three and a half division wins, that's minus 125.
27:33
Speaker 5: It really is a division where you kind of look
27:36
Speaker 5: at it and it's like outside of Atlanta, again, unless
27:38
Speaker 5: Pennix makes a big step, because I think Tua is toast,
27:42
Speaker 5: everyone's going to kind of beat up on each other
27:44
Speaker 5: and be right around 500. So Tampa Bay is priced...
27:48
Speaker 5: as the most expensive, the most likely, the favorite team
27:51
Speaker 5: in the division, I'm going to bet against that. That
27:53
Speaker 5: doesn't mean I think they are going to finish last
27:57
Speaker 5: in the division. They're the favorite for a reason. But
27:59
Speaker 5: it's a division that is likely going to be chaotic
28:02
Speaker 5: because all these teams are separated by the thinnest of margins.
28:06
Speaker 5: So I think the value is only under those 8.5 wins,
28:09
Speaker 5: the 3.5 division wins. And then Reuben Bain, season-long prop,
28:13
Speaker 5: under six and a quarter sacks at even money. Bain's
28:17
Speaker 5: obviously a really talented pass rusher, really productive in college.
28:21
Speaker 5: Just a different beast coming to the NFL. I mean,
28:23
Speaker 5: Jared Hurst, I'm a Rams fan. Jared verse one defensive
28:27
Speaker 5: rookie of the year after a dominant rookie season coming
28:30
Speaker 5: out of Florida state for the Rams. He had like
28:32
Speaker 5: four or five sacks that season. It's just really hard
28:34
Speaker 5: to come into the NFL and rack up a lot
28:36
Speaker 5: of sacks. So again, if he misses games, that's going
28:40
Speaker 5: to help me in that regard. I like to take unders.
28:42
Speaker 5: I just thought that line was a bit too high
28:44
Speaker 5: because of Bain's college profile. So I like the under there.
28:48
Speaker 3: Tyler, a college football question before I let you go.
28:52
Speaker 3: Of the two big ACC matchups that they're involved in
28:55
Speaker 3: this weekend, Louisville Ole Miss on Sunday night, Clemson LSU tomorrow,
29:00
Speaker 3: which team of Clemson LSU do you think has more
29:04
Speaker 3: of a chance of pulling off an upset?
29:08
Speaker 5: It's a really good question. I think it's Louisville has
29:11
Speaker 5: the better chance of pulling off the upset. Clemson has
29:14
Speaker 5: to go to that valley. Louisville's playing a– a neutral
29:18
Speaker 5: site game. Louisville, I think, is maybe the better team.
29:22
Speaker 5: They're at least ranked better to start the season. They
29:24
Speaker 5: have Isaac Brown and All-American running back. So I would
29:26
Speaker 5: say Louisville is, I would give them the 5% better
29:30
Speaker 5: chance to pull off the upset. I gave out two
29:33
Speaker 5: plays this morning on SportsCenter for each of those games.
29:35
Speaker 5: I like the over in the Louisville Ole Miss game.
29:38
Speaker 5: I think both offenses are going to light up the scoreboard.
29:40
Speaker 5: I like the under in the Clemson-LSU game. I think
29:43
Speaker 5: Dabo's defense will go into Death Valley and make things
29:45
Speaker 5: a little trickier for Lane Kiffin and his squad than
29:48
Speaker 5: they want it to be. I think it's going to
29:49
Speaker 5: be a bit lower scoring game than the total of 50.5. Meanwhile,
29:52
Speaker 5: I think in Nash-Vegas, I think we're going to have
29:54
Speaker 5: a track meet, a shootout between Louisville and Ole Miss.
29:58
Speaker 1: All right, Tyler, great to talk to you, man. We
30:00
Speaker 1: appreciate the perspective. Keep up the good work. And it's
30:03
Speaker 1: good to know that the folks in Mizzou do not
30:06
Speaker 1: acknowledge Willie as the sauce boss because he is telling
30:10
Speaker 1: everyone in Charlotte he's the sauce boss.
30:12
Speaker 5: Yeah, rest assured, Carolinas, we produce much better than Willie P.
30:16
Speaker 5: Sorry that you guys had to be a step back.
30:18
Speaker 5: That was a production.
30:21
Speaker 3: Oh, that's beautiful. All right, brother, keep up the good work.
30:24
Speaker 3: Thanks for coming on. All right, man. There you go.
30:28
Speaker 3: He liked that Willie treat. Willie drop. Well done. I
30:31
Speaker 3: got him. Well, that was good for 50, man.
30:34
Speaker 1: That was good stuff right there.
30:36
Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness. P man.
30:38
Speaker 1: God, we we have to keep finding out bone who
30:41
Speaker 1: P knows in the sports media from Mizzou because there's
30:44
Speaker 1: gazillions of them and get them on because something funny
30:47
Speaker 1: is always said one way or the other.
30:49
Speaker 3: Every single time. It's either they don't remember him like
30:52
Speaker 3: Eddie Royal.
30:53
Speaker 1: Or they just take shots like Tyler Fulcher just did.
30:56
Speaker 3: Eddie Royal was his high school classmate. Oh, yeah, that
31:00
Speaker 3: was high school. I want to say this. They were
31:01
Speaker 3: on the same team, though, weren't they? And you still
31:03
Speaker 3: forgot them? Yeah, they played on the same dang team.
31:06
Speaker 3: They wore the same uniform. I don't think they were
31:08
Speaker 3: on the same team. One was on the field. One
31:11
Speaker 3: was on the bench. Eddie Royal hasn't been on since then.
31:14
Speaker 3: That is true.
31:14
Speaker 1: Did we run him off? Did Willie run him off?
31:16
Speaker 1: I did want to mention this real quick before we
31:18
Speaker 1: get to a 50 update. Speaking of the Panthers, there
31:21
Speaker 1: was an interesting exchange that fans were having about Jonathan
31:25
Speaker 1: Brooks and this knee injury, right? Has been on the
31:28
Speaker 1: side this week. All Dave Canales would say is knee soreness.
31:31
Speaker 1: He did not specify what body part it is, but...
31:34
Speaker 1: There were fans doing what we did. Started to worry.
31:37
Speaker 1: Is it the knee? Is it that twice surgically repaired knee?
31:40
Speaker 1: And a fan was basically saying, come on, we all
31:43
Speaker 1: know this is knee soreness on Twitter. Well, his fiance
31:47
Speaker 1: responded on Twitter and said, let me help you with that.
31:51
Speaker 1: It is not knee soreness. So it's not like an
31:53
Speaker 1: insider report, but again, it probably doesn't get much more knowledgeable.
31:57
Speaker 1: as to Jonathan Brooks' situation than his fiancée.
32:00
Speaker 3: We're getting closer to what's sore, I guess.
32:03
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we still don't know what body part is
32:05
Speaker 1: bothering him, but the fact it's not the knee, that's
32:09
Speaker 1: what I'd like to hear. Also, congratulations to her and
32:12
Speaker 1: Jonathan on their upcoming nuptials as well.
32:15
Speaker 3: Mac, why don't we go to our cold cup of gumbo?
32:19
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33:00
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33:02
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33:05
Speaker 4: A bunch of Americans advancing to the third round yesterday.
33:08
Speaker 4: Most notably on the mid-side, the 9-seed Taylor Fritz. He
33:12
Speaker 4: won in straight sets 6-love, 6-1, 6-1.
33:17
Speaker 2: On the women's side, Coco Gauff. She won. 6-4, 7-6.
33:22
Speaker 2: Most notably, the No. 1 overall seed on the men's draw,
33:25
Speaker 2: Aleksandr Severov, had to go to a fifth set to
33:28
Speaker 2: advance to the third round.
33:29
Speaker 4: He won 6-4, 4-6, 7-6, 6-7, 6-3.
33:35
Speaker 3: You said a lot of numbers there, I'll be honest.
33:37
Speaker 1: Dude, I mean, this thing's heating up in New York phone,
33:41
Speaker 1: this U.S.
33:42
Speaker 2: Open.
33:42
Speaker 5: Man.
33:44
Speaker 3: That's all I got.
33:45
Speaker 4: Why?
33:45
Speaker 3: That's all I got. Why? I'm being serious. It's heating up, Finney.
33:48
Speaker 3: Is it not heating up?
33:50
Speaker 4: It did get a little bit warm yesterday up there
33:52
Speaker 4: in Queens. How much of the U.S.
33:54
Speaker 2: Open combined have y'all two watched?
33:57
Speaker 3: I mean, I watched the whole thing in June. Good break.
34:00
Speaker 3: All right, when we come back on the Mac and
34:02
Speaker 3: Bone Show, Gio Lopez with a big debut for Wake Forest,
34:06
Speaker 3: UNC with more off-the-field issues, and Mac accuses Fitty of
34:11
Speaker 3: some very creepus. Creepus. Very creepy office behavior. Creepus is
34:18
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34:49
Speaker 1: Mack and Bone with you here. All right, so we
34:50
Speaker 1: got to clean up aisle three, Boney. Apparently I misspoke earlier,
34:54
Speaker 1: which is a very surprising development to everybody listening, I
34:59
Speaker 1: am sure. What I'm trying to say about Dave Canales
35:04
Speaker 1: and Jonathan Brooks' knee is he has not told anybody
35:08
Speaker 1: where the soreness is. That's what I was trying to say.
35:12
Speaker 1: But fans... Feared it was his knee. Baylia is the
35:17
Speaker 1: name of his fiance. She has told people it's not
35:22
Speaker 1: knee soreness. That's what I was trying to say earlier, Bone.
35:25
Speaker 1: I don't even know how it came out.
35:26
Speaker 3: I think there's always going to be constant freak outs
35:30
Speaker 3: all the time, and I get it about Brooks. We're
35:32
Speaker 3: always going to be worried about if he comes out
35:34
Speaker 3: of a game, if he's down for a moment in time,
35:38
Speaker 3: or he misses a– there's always going to be that
35:40
Speaker 3: concern about until we see him, I think, go for
35:43
Speaker 3: a while after the injuries. And so that's good news.
35:47
Speaker 3: I get it. It's not the knee. That's good news.
35:49
Speaker 3: That's absolutely good news.
35:50
Speaker 1: I don't want him to be sore anywhere, but that,
35:53
Speaker 1: that knee where, like you say, we're going to be
35:54
Speaker 1: like a mother hen looking over him and looking over
35:56
Speaker 1: that knee. So anyway, that's the, that's the story there.
35:59
Speaker 1: Canales did say this week, I'm optimistic. He's going to
36:01
Speaker 1: play in week one. All right, let's hit on a
36:05
Speaker 1: couple of college football things before I present you with
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Speaker 1: 50s behavior that I feel like is creepy and weird
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Speaker 1: and But I want to know if the audience believes
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Speaker 1: it sounds weird.
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Speaker 3: He tried to drag me into his creepy world also.
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Speaker 1: He tried to get you to duplicate the creepy behavior
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Speaker 1: towards me.
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Speaker 3: Not following that wagon.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 1: Let's start first with Gio Lopez last night. Throws for
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Speaker 1: 350 and three touchdowns. Wake Forest with the new offense.
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Speaker 1: One that fits Gio, the same offense, same coordinator from
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Speaker 1: South Alabama, and it really looked like it fit. He
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Speaker 1: threw for 313 in the first half of this game
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Speaker 1: alone before they really started pounding it. They also lost
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Speaker 1: Carlos Hernandez, his best receiver, who had 165 yards in
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Speaker 1: the first half alone. Sounds like he's okay, according to
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Speaker 1: Jake Dickert. Fitty, what was the stat you had earlier?
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Speaker 1: Gio Lopez's 313 first half yards is greater than what
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Speaker 1: last year at UNC?
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Speaker 2: He threw for more yards.
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Speaker 4: In the first half than the first three games last
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Speaker 4: year against FBS competition combined. It was 311 against FBS
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Speaker 4: schools last year's first three games.
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Speaker 1: He also ran for 39 yards in the first half
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Speaker 1: as well. Because they are letting him run the spread offense.
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Speaker 1: zone read and rpos and that's his bag baby and
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Speaker 1: if he that's it that's how.
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Speaker 3: You use them understand it's akron i get that and
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Speaker 3: they've got miami in the louisville after they play another
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Speaker 3: uh low team in Purdue next week. Mack, does this change, though,
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Speaker 3: your overall outlook? If he is Gio from South Alabama,
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Speaker 3: what do you now think of Wake Forest? Because Jake
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Speaker 3: Digger did a great job last year maximizing the most
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Speaker 3: out of Robbie Ashford, that quarterback. If they're getting South
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Speaker 3: Alabama Gio Lopez, I wonder if Wake can maybe get
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Speaker 3: back to that. Nine's a high number, but can they
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Speaker 3: get to eight, maybe? Schedule is tougher, though. I think
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Speaker 3: it's possible. I like some of the targets he has. Hernandez,
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Speaker 3: I think, is going to be a star this year, Bone.
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Speaker 3: I like the freshman back they worked in.
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Speaker 1: Lawrence, as the game went on, short little dude, man,
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Speaker 1: but I think he's got some game. And I think
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Speaker 1: Jake Dicker can coach. Just look at last year, how
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Speaker 1: Wake Forest opened. Yeah, they won nine games and shocked everybody.
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Speaker 1: Wake Forest last year played on Friday night of week one.
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Speaker 1: You thought Colorado Georgia Tech was ugly?
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 3: 10-9. 10-9 win over Kennesaw State. That's right.
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Speaker 1: So they already are roaring ahead of where they were
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Speaker 1: offensively early in the season last year.
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Speaker 3: Let's talk about UNC.
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Speaker 1: So that Gio stuff probably doesn't make UNC fans happy
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Speaker 1: because it's more evidence that UNC was just trying to
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Speaker 1: use him the wrong way in an offense that didn't
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Speaker 1: fit him.
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Speaker 3: It was a horrible fit.
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Speaker 1: And we thought that immediately when we watched the TCU
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Speaker 1: game last year. This year, Carolina beats TCU, but it
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean they don't head into week one, Bone, with
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Speaker 1: bad news. Michael Lombardi resigned. I'm not saying that's the
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Speaker 1: bad news to WRL fans. I feel like that's the
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Speaker 1: good news. The bad news is he resigned, Bone, just
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Speaker 1: minutes before WRAL's investigative piece by three different reporters, including
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Speaker 1: Brian Murphy and Pat Welter. dropped yesterday in Raleigh. And
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Speaker 1: there are, some things in there that apparently the lawyers
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Speaker 1: that UNC has hired to investigate its football program.
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Speaker 3: that they're sniffing into.
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Speaker 1: And WRAL shared some of the things that is being investigated.
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Speaker 1: Possible drug use on the job by Steve Belichick, who
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Speaker 1: of course is on medical leave right now. Possible case
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Speaker 1: of Bill Belichick giving at least one player drugs, providing
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Speaker 1: at least one player with drugs. And then you have
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Speaker 1: the other situations, which involve assistant coaches in inappropriate relationships
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Speaker 1: with recruiting staffers. And then you have recruiting staffers. inappropriate
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Speaker 1: relationships possibly with players so again all of it's being
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Speaker 1: investigated they're looking into it these aren't final findings but
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Speaker 1: it's it's not what you want bone when we thought
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Speaker 1: carolina football might finally be getting some damn momentum after last.
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Speaker 3: Saturday complete lack of control via the report anyway allegedly
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Speaker 3: if all that's true that's that is for a guy
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Speaker 3: who was the ultimate control freak in his time in
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Speaker 3: the nfl and bill belichick Either he, you said it well,
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Speaker 3: either he's going to be in trouble, Mac, for knowing
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Speaker 3: or not knowing. Because they're going to say, how did
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Speaker 3: you not know? Or how did you know and look
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Speaker 3: the other way? Because of the people involved in the reports,
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Speaker 3: and we do say reports, it's Steve Belichick and Michael Lombardi,
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Speaker 3: Michael Lombardi, excuse me, two people very tied into Bill Belichick.
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Speaker 3: So it's not just random people involved here that Belichick
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Speaker 3: lost control of in some ways. It is... family, and
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Speaker 3: then a guy who's basically like family, Michael Lombardi. Did
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Speaker 3: I misspeak again, man? You guys are all over me.
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Speaker 3: I meant Steve.
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Speaker 1: What you have to do is when you listen to
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Speaker 1: the show, you have to speak Mac. You have to
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Speaker 1: understand what Mac meant.
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Speaker 3: I don't even know. And not what Mac said. What
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Speaker 3: did you say this time?
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Speaker 1: Steve Belichick is the one they're investigating for giving the
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Speaker 1: drugs to players.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if I said Bill. But anyway, Steve
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Speaker 3: Belichick is the one. Work with me. Speak Mac.
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Speaker 1: I'll put out, there'll be a whole course phone, audio
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Speaker 1: book course that I will put out on speaking Mac
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Speaker 1: and E's.
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Speaker 3: Maybe this is why I mess up a lot. Maybe
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Speaker 3: this is why I'm dumb. Why is that? Because I've
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Speaker 3: been around you for so long. Oh, okay. Don't pull
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Speaker 3: that off on me. Let me own my own crap.
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Speaker 3: You know I applied for Harvard in high school, for
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Speaker 3: crying out loud. Now look at me.
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Speaker 2: You applied.
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Speaker 3: That was the funniest moment in the Harvard admission offices ever.
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Speaker 3: They said, you see this? Still waiting for that reply back. Oh, man.
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Speaker 3: All right. Let's talk about... So anyway, we'll see where
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Speaker 3: that goes.
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Speaker 1: But... And multiple Tar Heel fans have said, you mean
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Speaker 1: we can fire him for cause without paying him? You're
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Speaker 1: not the only person to text that 704 number. So
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Speaker 1: it makes you wonder where that's headed and if this
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Speaker 1: stuff does lead to Belichick following Lombardi out the door.
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Speaker 1: But we'll see. We'll see when the investigation finishes. As
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Speaker 1: far as Finney's behavior, Bone Man. I kind of thought
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Speaker 1: it was funny at first. I'll tell you the story.
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Speaker 1: And this is the second time this has happened to
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Speaker 1: me where I'm sitting downstairs bone and I'm trying to
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Speaker 1: prepare for the show. Right.
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Speaker 3: And apparently I lock in pretty hard.
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Speaker 1: Apparently, I lock in on my phone very hard to
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Speaker 1: the point where I look up and right in front
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Speaker 1: of me, three feet away, is Finney standing there staring
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Speaker 1: at me.
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Speaker 3: Three feet away?
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Speaker 1: And it scared me. I'm not going to lie. I
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Speaker 1: was startled by this. So I'm like, that's kind of funny.
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Speaker 3: He got me. Well, then I decided to ask him, Bone.
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Speaker 3: Before the show.
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Speaker 1: Hey, how long were you standing there before I noticed you?
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Speaker 1: And tell everybody, Finny, how long you were standing there,
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Speaker 1: three feet away, staring at me.
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Speaker 2: About three minutes.
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Speaker 3: My Lord. Is that.
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Speaker 1: And then he apparently tried to get Bone to go
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Speaker 1: downstairs and do the same thing.
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Speaker 3: He said, hey, Bone, I scared Mac by staring at
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Speaker 3: him for three straight minutes. You should go try it, too.
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Speaker 3: I thought I did not know that he was... I
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Speaker 3: thought he was just in the doorway, like, not saying anything.
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Speaker 3: It was right there in front of me at that desk.
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Speaker 3: I try to knock to get your attention to make
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Speaker 3: sure that I don't startle you, right?
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Be kind to your elders. Because you
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Speaker 3: are focused, and if you... You're kind of like a,
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Speaker 3: like you don't want to approach that cat. You're kind
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Speaker 3: of like, you're three minutes, three feet away. Isn't that
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Speaker 3: a little creepy? You were locked in.
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Speaker 4: You were reading something on your phone, which the biggest
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Speaker 4: surprise is that you can actually read.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I ain't going to read any books now. It's
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Speaker 1: going to get crazy. But reading social media or ESPN.com,
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Speaker 1: I can handle.
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Speaker 2: Is that not weird, though?
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Speaker 4: I also just came down the stairs. My breathing was
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Speaker 4: probably noticeable.
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Speaker 3: I did not hear you. I had no idea. So
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Speaker 3: you're deaf?
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Speaker 1: You are such a creeper. How do you walk in
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Speaker 1: so quietly like that? Are you doing it on purpose?
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Speaker 1: Are you walking in quietly on purpose? Yes.
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Speaker 3: Why are you doing that?
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Speaker 1: Like, is this not, boom, we just did harassment training.
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Speaker 3: I think it might have been in there.
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Speaker 1: Something about staring at somebody from three feet away for
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Speaker 1: three straight minutes.
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Speaker 2: You need to be mindful of your surroundings.
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Speaker 3: One of the great questions we had about our harassment
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Speaker 3: training was, why was Finney not on the list for
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Speaker 3: harassment training? It's amazing.
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Speaker 1: He's not a full-time employee, so there's your legal answer.
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Speaker 1: But I feel like they might want to make an
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Speaker 1: exception for the walking HR violation over there.
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Speaker 3: The walking violation. Oh, my gosh.
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Speaker 1: I got to have my head on a swivel around
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Speaker 1: this joint with Fitty, man. Head on a damn swivel.
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Speaker 2: I was just coming down to talk to you.
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Speaker 3: Well, then talk to me.
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Speaker 1: Who has three minutes of their time, Bone, just to
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Speaker 1: stand there and stare at someone from three feet away?
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Speaker 3: People want to know why Fitty's out of breath walking
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Speaker 3: down the stairs. Have you seen him? Not upstairs, downstairs.
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Speaker 3: When we come back, Mac, the captain himself, J.J. Jansen
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Speaker 3: joins us. We'll recap the preseason, look ahead to the
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Speaker 3: regular season, and we'll ask again, is it possible that J.J.
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Speaker 3: ends up in the Hall of Honor one day just
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Speaker 3: by being himself? Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.