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Hope and Healing: The Story Behind a New Children's Classic · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

• 4:07
  Hi,
• 4:08
  I'm
• 4:08
  author
• 4:08
  Andrea
• 4:08
  Coyne,
• 4:09
  and
• 4:09
  my
• 4:09
  book
• 4:09
  is
• 4:10
  Hope
• 4:10
  is
• 4:10
  a
• 4:10
  Blanket.
• 4:11
  Andrea,
• 4:12
  thank
• 4:12
  you
• 4:12
  for
• 4:12
  joining
• 4:13
  us
• 4:13
  on
• 4:14
  the
• 4:14
  Adventures
• 4:15
  in
• 4:15
  the
• 4:15
  Heart
• 4:15
  of
• 4:15
  Children's
• 4:16
  Book
• 4:16
  Authors
• 4:16
  podcast.
• 4:17
  I
• 4:17
  really
• 4:17
  appreciate
• 4:18
  you
• 4:18
  being
• 4:18
  a
• 4:19
  guest
• 4:19
  on
• 4:19
  our
• 4:19
  show.
• 4:20
  Thanks
• 4:20
  for
• 4:20
  having
• 4:21
  me.
• 4:21
  I
• 4:21
  appreciate
• 4:21
  it.
• 4:22
  My
• 4:22
  pleasure.
• 4:23
  I
• 4:23
  want
• 4:23
  to
• 4:24
  jump
• 4:24
  right
• 4:24
  in
• 4:24
  and
• 4:25
  talk
• 4:25
  to
• 4:25
  you
• 4:25
  about
• 4:26
  two
• 4:27
  things
• 4:27
  about
• 4:27
  your
• 4:28
  book,
• 4:28
  the
• 4:28
  inspiration
• 4:29
  and
• 4:30
  the
• 4:30
  origin
• 4:30
  story.
• 4:31
  So
• 4:31
  can
• 4:31
  you
• 4:32
  tell
• 4:32
  us
• 4:32
  a
• 4:32
  bit
• 4:33
  about
• 4:33
  the.
• 4:34
  What's
• 4:34
  the
• 4:34
  inspiration
• 4:35
  behind
• 4:35
  the
• 4:35
  book
• 4:35
  and
• 4:36
  how
• 4:36
  did
• 4:36
  it
• 4:36
  all
• 4:36
  start?
• 4:37
  Sure.
• 4:38
  So
• 4:38
  there's
• 4:38
  a
• 4:38
  lot
• 4:39
  of
• 4:39
  inspiration
• 4:39
  behind
• 4:40
  my
• 4:40
  first
• 4:40
  children's
• 4:40
  book,
• 4:41
  Hope
• 4:41
  is
• 4:41
  a
• 4:41
  Blanket.
• 4:42
  I
• 4:42
  love
• 4:42
  the
• 4:42
  COVID
• 4:43
  My
• 4:43
  dear
• 4:44
  friend
• 4:44
  of
• 4:44
  mine,
• 4:44
  Courtney,
• 4:44
  that
• 4:45
  I've
• 4:45
  been
• 4:45
  friends
• 4:45
  with
• 4:45
  for
• 4:46
  years,
• 4:46
  we
• 4:46
  worked
• 4:46
  together
• 4:46
  in
• 4:46
  corporate
• 4:47
  America
• 4:47
  many
• 4:47
  moons
• 4:48
  ago,
• 4:48
  was
• 4:49
  my
• 4:49
  illustrator.
• 4:50
  It
• 4:50
  warms
• 4:50
  my
• 4:50
  heart
• 4:51
  every
• 4:51
  time
• 4:51
  I
• 4:51
  look
• 4:51
  at
• 4:51
  it.
• 4:51
  It
• 4:51
  makes
• 4:52
  me
• 4:52
  smile.
• 4:52
  I
• 4:52
  cried
• 4:53
  when
• 4:53
  I
• 4:53
  first
• 4:53
  saw
• 4:53
  it,
• 4:54
  but.
• 4:54
  So
• 4:54
  here
• 4:54
  we
• 4:55
  have
• 4:55
  their
• 4:56
  geese.
• 4:56
  So
• 4:56
  coin
• 4:57
  my
• 4:57
  last
• 4:57
  name,
• 4:57
  actually,
• 4:58
  I
• 4:58
  think
• 4:58
  it's
• 4:58
  in
• 4:58
  Gaelic,
• 4:59
  means
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  wild
• 5:00
  goose.
• 5:00
  This
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  is
• 5:00
  my
• 5:01
  married
• 5:01
  name.
• 5:01
  So
• 5:01
  I
• 5:01
  didn't
• 5:01
  really
• 5:02
  know
• 5:02
  the
• 5:02
  origins
• 5:02
  of
• 5:02
  it
• 5:03
  till
• 5:03
  after
• 5:03
  I
• 5:03
  got
• 5:03
  married
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  and
• 5:04
  started
• 5:04
  exploring
• 5:05
  it,
• 5:05
  but
• 5:06
  so
• 5:06
  I
• 5:06
  knew
• 5:06
  for
• 5:06
  a
• 5:06
  long
• 5:06
  time
• 5:07
  I
• 5:07
  wanted
• 5:07
  to
• 5:07
  write
• 5:07
  a
• 5:08
  children's
• 5:08
  book.
• 5:08
  And
• 5:09
  one
• 5:09
  thing
• 5:09
  that
• 5:09
  was
• 5:09
  really
• 5:09
  important
• 5:10
  to
• 5:10
  me
• 5:10
  as
• 5:10
  an
• 5:11
  author
• 5:11
  was
• 5:11
  to
• 5:11
  write
• 5:11
  a
• 5:11
  book
• 5:12
  that
• 5:12
  was
• 5:12
  inclusive.
• 5:13
  And
• 5:13
  it's
• 5:13
  hard
• 5:14
  to
• 5:14
  have
• 5:14
  characters
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  where
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  a
• 5:16
  child
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  could
• 5:16
  look
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  at
• 5:17
  them
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  and
• 5:17
  not
• 5:17
  feel
• 5:17
  like,
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  oh,
• 5:18
  they
• 5:18
  don't
• 5:19
  look
• 5:19
  like
• 5:19
  me,
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  or
• 5:20
  is,
• 5:20
  could
• 5:20
  that
• 5:20
  be
• 5:20
  me?
• 5:21
  And
• 5:21
  so
• 5:21
  I
• 5:21
  really
• 5:21
  wanted
• 5:21
  to
• 5:22
  use
• 5:22
  animals.
• 5:23
  So
• 5:23
  anyway,
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  geese
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  is.
• 5:24
  That's
• 5:25
  why
• 5:25
  we
• 5:25
  chose
• 5:25
  geese.
• 5:26
  But
• 5:26
  we
• 5:26
  have
• 5:26
  a
• 5:26
  mom
• 5:26
  and
• 5:26
  a
• 5:26
  son
• 5:27
  goose
• 5:27
  here.
• 5:28
  So
• 5:28
  I
• 5:28
  am
• 5:28
  a
• 5:29
  mom.
• 5:29
  My
• 5:29
  son
• 5:29
  is
• 5:30
  now
• 5:30
  9
• 5:30
  years
• 5:30
  old,
• 5:30
  almost
• 5:31
  10.
• 5:32
  My
• 5:32
  book
• 5:32
  actually
• 5:33
  was
• 5:33
  inspired
• 5:33
  and
• 5:34
  came
• 5:34
  out
• 5:34
  of
• 5:34
  a
• 5:34
  grief
• 5:35
  and
• 5:35
  loss
• 5:35
  situation
• 5:36
  in
• 5:36
  our
• 5:36
  family.
• 5:36
  I
• 5:37
  have
• 5:37
  a
• 5:37
  son,
• 5:37
  but
• 5:37
  my
• 5:37
  husband
• 5:38
  and
• 5:38
  I
• 5:38
  were
• 5:38
  pregnant
• 5:38
  with
• 5:39
  our
• 5:39
  second
• 5:39
  child
• 5:39
  and
• 5:39
  unfortunately
• 5:40
  had
• 5:40
  a
• 5:40
  miscarriage
• 5:41
  at
• 5:41
  the
• 5:41
  end
• 5:41
  of
• 5:41
  2021.
• 5:42
  So
• 5:43
  I
• 5:43
  know
• 5:43
  that's
• 5:43
  something
• 5:43
  that's
• 5:44
  common.
• 5:44
  A
• 5:44
  lot
• 5:44
  of
• 5:44
  families
• 5:45
  go
• 5:45
  through
• 5:45
  that.
• 5:46
  It's
• 5:46
  also
• 5:46
  really
• 5:46
  heartbreaking.
• 5:47
  And
• 5:47
  especially
• 5:47
  when
• 5:48
  you
• 5:48
  have
• 5:48
  other
• 5:49
  children
• 5:49
  in
• 5:49
  the
• 5:49
  home,
• 5:50
  it's
• 5:50
  hard
• 5:50
  to
• 5:50
  have
• 5:51
  conversations
• 5:51
  about
• 5:52
  that
• 5:52
  because
• 5:52
  everybody's
• 5:53
  process
• 5:53
  is
• 5:53
  great.
• 5:53
  Griefs
• 5:54
  and
• 5:54
  loss,
• 5:54
  different.
• 5:55
  We,
• 5:55
  my
• 5:55
  wife
• 5:56
  and
• 5:56
  I,
• 5:56
  had
• 5:56
  the
• 5:56
  same
• 5:57
  thing
• 5:57
  happen
• 5:57
  to
• 5:57
  us
• 5:58
  because
• 5:59
  we
• 5:59
  have
• 5:59
  two.
• 5:59
  We
• 5:59
  have
• 5:59
  a
• 6:00
  girl
• 6:00
  and
• 6:00
  a
• 6:00
  boy,
• 6:01
  and
• 6:02
  we
• 6:02
  were
• 6:02
  expecting
• 6:03
  a
• 6:03
  third,
• 6:03
  but
• 6:04
  that
• 6:04
  never
• 6:04
  happened.
• 6:05
  So
• 6:05
  I'm
• 6:05
  just
• 6:05
  curious.
• 6:06
  Rick,
• 6:06
  My,
• 6:06
  my,
• 6:07
  my
• 6:07
  sympathy
• 6:07
  is.
• 6:08
  It
• 6:08
  is.
• 6:08
  It's
• 6:08
  a
• 6:08
  hard
• 6:09
  thing
• 6:09
  to
• 6:09
  go
• 6:09
  through
• 6:10
  as
• 6:10
  a
• 6:10
  family.
• 6:11
  And
• 6:11
  once
• 6:11
  I
• 6:11
  entered
• 6:12
  that
• 6:12
  miscarriage
• 6:13
  community,
• 6:13
  I
• 6:13
  realized
• 6:13
  there
• 6:14
  were
• 6:14
  a
• 6:14
  lot
• 6:14
  of
• 6:14
  families
• 6:14
  dealing
• 6:15
  with
• 6:15
  grief
• 6:15
  and
• 6:15
  loss
• 6:16
  in
• 6:16
  hard
• 6:16
  ways.
• 6:16
  And
• 6:17
  so
• 6:17
  that
• 6:17
  was
• 6:18
  really
• 6:18
  the
• 6:18
  inspiration
• 6:18
  for
• 6:19
  Hope.
• 6:19
  It's
• 6:19
  a
• 6:19
  blanket,
• 6:20
  because
• 6:20
  coming
• 6:21
  out
• 6:21
  of
• 6:21
  that
• 6:21
  loss,
• 6:21
  it
• 6:21
  was
• 6:22
  at
• 6:22
  the
• 6:22
  end
• 6:22
  of
• 6:22
  the
• 6:22
  year,
• 6:23
  and
• 6:23
  I
• 6:23
  went
• 6:23
  into
• 6:23
  2022
• 6:24
  with
• 6:24
  hope
• 6:25
  as
• 6:25
  my
• 6:25
  word
• 6:25
  of
• 6:25
  the
• 6:25
  year.
• 6:26
  And
• 6:26
  so
• 6:26
  I
• 6:26
  just.
• 6:27
  As
• 6:27
  I
• 6:27
  was
• 6:27
  on
• 6:27
  that
• 6:27
  journey
• 6:28
  to
• 6:28
  understand
• 6:28
  what
• 6:28
  hope
• 6:29
  was,
• 6:29
  I
• 6:30
  felt
• 6:30
  I'm
• 6:30
  a
• 6:30
  person
• 6:30
  of
• 6:31
  faith,
• 6:31
  and
• 6:31
  I
• 6:31
  really
• 6:31
  felt
• 6:31
  like
• 6:32
  God
• 6:32
  was
• 6:32
  calling
• 6:32
  me
• 6:33
  to
• 6:33
  that
• 6:33
  word
• 6:33
  Hope.
• 6:33
  I'm
• 6:34
  an
• 6:34
  avid
• 6:34
  dog
• 6:34
  walker,
• 6:35
  and
• 6:35
  so
• 6:35
  every
• 6:35
  day
• 6:35
  on
• 6:36
  my
• 6:36
  walk,
• 6:36
  I
• 6:36
  would
• 6:36
  just.
• 6:37
  I
• 6:37
  would
• 6:37
  pray
• 6:37
  a
• 6:37
  lot,
• 6:37
  and
• 6:37
  I
• 6:38
  would
• 6:38
  process
• 6:38
  some
• 6:38
  ideas,
• 6:39
  and
• 6:39
  I
• 6:40
  decided,
• 6:40
  actually
• 6:40
  inappropriately,
• 6:41
  as
• 6:41
  we're
• 6:42
  recording
• 6:42
  this
• 6:42
  during
• 6:43
  the
• 6:43
  Lent
• 6:43
  season,
• 6:44
  and
• 6:44
  I
• 6:44
  felt
• 6:45
  called
• 6:45
  to
• 6:45
  write
• 6:45
  a
• 6:46
  book
• 6:46
  during
• 6:46
  Lent,
• 6:46
  and
• 6:47
  so
• 6:47
  I
• 6:47
  gave
• 6:47
  myself
• 6:48
  that
• 6:48
  challenge
• 6:48
  of
• 6:49
  writing
• 6:49
  a
• 6:49
  book
• 6:49
  in
• 6:49
  40
• 6:50
  days.
• 6:50
  So
• 6:51
  hope
• 6:51
  is
• 6:51
  a
• 6:51
  Blanket
• 6:51
  started
• 6:52
  right
• 6:52
  at
• 6:52
  the
• 6:52
  beginning
• 6:53
  of
• 6:53
  Ash
• 6:53
  Wednesday,
• 6:54
  and
• 6:54
  I
• 6:54
  actually
• 6:55
  finished
• 6:56
  the
• 6:56
  last
• 6:56
  line
• 6:57
  of
• 6:57
  the
• 6:57
  book
• 6:57
  on
• 6:57
  Easter
• 6:58
  Sunday.
• 6:58
  Wow.
• 6:59
  Amazing.
• 7:00
  Yeah.
• 7:00
  So
• 7:01
  that's
• 7:01
  how
• 7:01
  the
• 7:02
  book
• 7:02
  came
• 7:02
  about.
• 7:02
  But
• 7:03
  Hope
• 7:03
  is
• 7:03
  a
• 7:03
  Blanket
• 7:03
  is
• 7:03
  a
• 7:04
  story
• 7:04
  about
• 7:04
  again,
• 7:04
  we
• 7:04
  go
• 7:05
  back
• 7:05
  to
• 7:05
  our
• 7:05
  geese.
• 7:05
  We
• 7:05
  have
• 7:06
  mother
• 7:06
  and
• 7:06
  son
• 7:06
  goose,
• 7:07
  and
• 7:07
  essentially
• 7:08
  it's
• 7:08
  bedtime.
• 7:08
  And
• 7:09
  little
• 7:09
  goose
• 7:09
  lost
• 7:10
  his
• 7:10
  blanket
• 7:10
  before
• 7:10
  bedtime,
• 7:11
  and
• 7:11
  he's
• 7:11
  looking
• 7:11
  for
• 7:12
  it.
• 7:12
  And
• 7:12
  any
• 7:12
  parent
• 7:13
  understand
• 7:14
  and
• 7:14
  resonate
• 7:14
  with
• 7:15
  that
• 7:15
  conversation
• 7:16
  because
• 7:16
  it
• 7:16
  happens
• 7:17
  to
• 7:17
  all
• 7:17
  of
• 7:17
  us
• 7:17
  as
• 7:18
  they're
• 7:18
  looking
• 7:18
  for
• 7:18
  the
• 7:19
  blanket.
• 7:19
  The
• 7:19
  mom
• 7:19
  says,
• 7:20
  I
• 7:20
  hope
• 7:20
  we
• 7:20
  find
• 7:20
  your
• 7:20
  blanket
• 7:21
  before
• 7:21
  bed,
• 7:21
  and
• 7:22
  says,
• 7:22
  let's
• 7:22
  hope,
• 7:23
  mom,
• 7:23
  because
• 7:23
  kids
• 7:23
  have
• 7:24
  questions.
• 7:24
  So
• 7:25
  as
• 7:25
  they
• 7:25
  go
• 7:25
  around
• 7:25
  the
• 7:25
  house
• 7:25
  looking
• 7:26
  for
• 7:26
  the
• 7:26
  blanket,
• 7:27
  they
• 7:27
  talk
• 7:27
  about
• 7:28
  how
• 7:28
  they
• 7:28
  play
• 7:28
  with
• 7:28
  the
• 7:28
  blanket
• 7:29
  in
• 7:29
  different
• 7:29
  spaces,
• 7:30
  and
• 7:30
  it
• 7:30
  becomes
• 7:30
  a
• 7:30
  symbol
• 7:31
  for
• 7:31
  hope.
• 7:32
  And
• 7:32
  I
• 7:32
  don't
• 7:33
  want
• 7:33
  to
• 7:33
  give
• 7:33
  away
• 7:33
  a
• 7:34
  total
• 7:34
  spoiler
• 7:34
  alert.
• 7:35
  There
• 7:35
  is
• 7:35
  a
• 7:35
  happy
• 7:35
  ending
• 7:36
  in
• 7:36
  the
• 7:36
  book,
• 7:36
  but
• 7:37
  there's
• 7:37
  a
• 7:37
  lot
• 7:37
  of
• 7:37
  learning
• 7:38
  along
• 7:38
  the
• 7:38
  way
• 7:38
  as
• 7:39
  well.
• 7:39
  And
• 7:39
  so
• 7:39
  my
• 7:40
  hope
• 7:40
  was
• 7:40
  that
• 7:41
  in
• 7:41
  creating
• 7:41
  this
• 7:42
  book
• 7:42
  that
• 7:42
  both
• 7:43
  parents
• 7:43
  and
• 7:43
  kids
• 7:43
  or
• 7:43
  adults
• 7:44
  and
• 7:44
  kids
• 7:44
  could
• 7:45
  actually
• 7:45
  talk
• 7:45
  about
• 7:46
  lost.
• 7:46
  The
• 7:46
  blanket
• 7:47
  is
• 7:47
  lost.
• 7:47
  And
• 7:48
  so
• 7:48
  I
• 7:48
  wanted
• 7:48
  it
• 7:49
  to
• 7:49
  be
• 7:49
  a
• 7:49
  space
• 7:49
  where
• 7:50
  they
• 7:50
  could
• 7:50
  talk
• 7:50
  about
• 7:50
  whether
• 7:51
  it's
• 7:51
  maybe
• 7:51
  a
• 7:52
  pet
• 7:52
  passed
• 7:52
  away
• 7:53
  or
• 7:53
  maybe
• 7:53
  a
• 7:53
  friend
• 7:54
  moved.
• 7:54
  It
• 7:55
  could
• 7:55
  be
• 7:55
  lost
• 7:55
  in
• 7:56
  a
• 7:56
  lot
• 7:56
  of
• 7:56
  different
• 7:56
  ways,
• 7:57
  but
• 7:57
  that
• 7:57
  it
• 7:57
  would
• 7:57
  just
• 7:58
  create
• 7:58
  that
• 7:58
  space
• 7:59
  where
• 7:59
  they
• 7:59
  could
• 7:59
  talk
• 7:59
  about
• 8:00
  that,
• 8:00
  but
• 8:00
  ultimately
• 8:01
  learn
• 8:01
  how
• 8:01
  to
• 8:02
  remain
• 8:02
  hopeful
• 8:03
  and
• 8:03
  find
• 8:03
  that
• 8:03
  on
• 8:04
  the
• 8:04
  other
• 8:04
  side
• 8:04
  of
• 8:04
  a
• 8:04
  hard
• 8:05
  situation.
• 8:05
  It'S
• 8:06
  more
• 8:06
  than
• 8:06
  just
• 8:07
  one
• 8:07
  event
• 8:07
  that
• 8:08
  inspired
• 8:09
  you
• 8:09
  to
• 8:10
  write
• 8:10
  the
• 8:10
  story.
• 8:11
  Yeah,
• 8:12
  absolutely.
• 8:12
  Another
• 8:13
  thing.
• 8:13
  So
• 8:13
  as
• 8:13
  a
• 8:13
  family,
• 8:14
  in
• 8:14
  the
• 8:14
  wake
• 8:15
  of
• 8:15
  our
• 8:15
  loss,
• 8:15
  we
• 8:15
  are
• 8:16
  actually
• 8:16
  prospective
• 8:17
  foster
• 8:17
  adoptive
• 8:18
  parents
• 8:19
  as
• 8:19
  well.
• 8:19
  So
• 8:19
  we're
• 8:19
  actually
• 8:20
  going
• 8:20
  through
• 8:20
  the
• 8:20
  process
• 8:20
  with
• 8:21
  an
• 8:21
  agency.
• 8:21
  We're
• 8:22
  located
• 8:22
  in
• 8:22
  Pennsylvania,
• 8:23
  where
• 8:23
  we're
• 8:23
  hoping
• 8:24
  to
• 8:24
  welcome
• 8:25
  another
• 8:25
  child
• 8:25
  into
• 8:26
  our
• 8:26
  home.
• 8:26
  But
• 8:26
  part
• 8:26
  of
• 8:26
  our
• 8:27
  training
• 8:27
  has
• 8:27
  been
• 8:27
  learning
• 8:28
  a
• 8:28
  lot
• 8:28
  about
• 8:28
  trauma
• 8:29
  and
• 8:29
  how
• 8:29
  a
• 8:30
  lot
• 8:30
  of
• 8:30
  children
• 8:30
  in
• 8:30
  foster
• 8:31
  care
• 8:31
  have
• 8:31
  been
• 8:32
  impacted
• 8:32
  really
• 8:32
  by
• 8:33
  trauma
• 8:33
  and
• 8:33
  ultimately
• 8:34
  not
• 8:34
  being
• 8:34
  able
• 8:35
  to
• 8:35
  be
• 8:35
  part
• 8:35
  of
• 8:35
  a
• 8:36
  biological
• 8:36
  family
• 8:37
  unit.
• 8:37
  And
• 8:37
  that
• 8:37
  was
• 8:37
  another
• 8:38
  inspiration
• 8:38
  for
• 8:38
  this
• 8:38
  book.
• 8:39
  As
• 8:39
  we
• 8:39
  are
• 8:39
  started
• 8:39
  to
• 8:40
  going
• 8:40
  through
• 8:40
  some
• 8:40
  of
• 8:40
  those
• 8:41
  trainings
• 8:41
  and
• 8:41
  learning
• 8:41
  more
• 8:41
  about
• 8:42
  that,
• 8:42
  is
• 8:43
  that,
• 8:43
  yeah,
• 8:43
  I
• 8:44
  know
• 8:44
  that
• 8:44
  a
• 8:44
  lot
• 8:44
  of
• 8:44
  people,
• 8:45
  that's
• 8:45
  another
• 8:45
  part
• 8:45
  of
• 8:46
  grief
• 8:46
  and
• 8:46
  loss
• 8:46
  is
• 8:46
  the
• 8:46
  grief
• 8:47
  and
• 8:47
  loss
• 8:47
  of
• 8:47
  a
• 8:47
  biological
• 8:48
  family
• 8:48
  unit.
• 8:49
  So
• 8:49
  that
• 8:49
  has
• 8:49
  also
• 8:49
  been
• 8:50
  an
• 8:50
  inspiration
• 8:51
  or
• 8:51
  an
• 8:51
  audience
• 8:51
  that
• 8:51
  I
• 8:51
  hope
• 8:52
  this
• 8:52
  book
• 8:52
  will
• 8:52
  get
• 8:52
  into
• 8:53
  their
• 8:53
  hands
• 8:53
  so
• 8:53
  that
• 8:53
  it
• 8:54
  can
• 8:54
  also
• 8:54
  be
• 8:54
  a
• 8:54
  tool
• 8:55
  for
• 8:55
  them.
• 8:55
  Fantastic.
• 8:56
  It's
• 8:57
  always
• 8:57
  nice
• 8:58
  through,
• 8:58
  especially
• 8:59
  through
• 8:59
  children's
• 9:00
  literature,
• 9:01
  to
• 9:02
  influence
• 9:02
  people
• 9:03
  at
• 9:03
  a
• 9:03
  young
• 9:03
  age.
• 9:04
  And
• 9:04
  I've
• 9:05
  been
• 9:05
  so
• 9:05
  fortunate
• 9:06
  right
• 9:06
  now.
• 9:06
  I've
• 9:06
  interviewed
• 9:07
  so
• 9:07
  many
• 9:08
  children's
• 9:08
  book
• 9:09
  authors
• 9:09
  and
• 9:10
  where
• 9:10
  each
• 9:11
  story
• 9:11
  comes
• 9:12
  from
• 9:12
  is
• 9:13
  such
• 9:13
  an
• 9:13
  inspiration.
• 9:14
  So
• 9:14
  thank
• 9:14
  you
• 9:15
  for
• 9:15
  sharing
• 9:16
  that
• 9:16
  with
• 9:16
  us.
• 9:17
  Absolutely.
• 9:18
  So
• 9:18
  tell
• 9:18
  us
• 9:18
  a
• 9:18
  little
• 9:19
  bit
• 9:19
  about
• 9:19
  your
• 9:20
  publishing
• 9:20
  approach,
• 9:20
  because
• 9:21
  I
• 9:21
  talk
• 9:21
  to
• 9:21
  everybody,
• 9:22
  especially
• 9:23
  children's
• 9:23
  book
• 9:23
  authors,
• 9:24
  about
• 9:24
  there's
• 9:25
  the
• 9:25
  traditional
• 9:26
  way
• 9:26
  of
• 9:26
  publishing,
• 9:27
  getting
• 9:27
  a
• 9:28
  traditional
• 9:28
  editor
• 9:29
  and
• 9:29
  a
• 9:29
  publisher
• 9:30
  and
• 9:30
  away
• 9:30
  you
• 9:31
  go,
• 9:31
  or
• 9:31
  self
• 9:32
  published
• 9:32
  or.
• 9:33
  I
• 9:33
  find
• 9:34
  a
• 9:34
  lot
• 9:34
  of
• 9:34
  children's
• 9:35
  book
• 9:35
  authors
• 9:36
  now
• 9:36
  use
• 9:36
  like
• 9:36
  a
• 9:37
  hybrid
• 9:37
  kind
• 9:38
  of
• 9:38
  method
• 9:38
  where
• 9:39
  they
• 9:39
  purchase
• 9:40
  some
• 9:40
  of
• 9:40
  the
• 9:40
  services
• 9:41
  and
• 9:41
  they
• 9:41
  do
• 9:41
  some
• 9:41
  of
• 9:42
  the
• 9:42
  work
• 9:42
  themselves.
• 9:43
  Tell
• 9:43
  us
• 9:43
  a
• 9:44
  bit
• 9:44
  about
• 9:44
  what's
• 9:44
  your
• 9:45
  approach.
• 9:45
  I
• 9:45
  was
• 9:45
  fortunate
• 9:46
  and
• 9:46
  that
• 9:46
  I
• 9:46
  wanted.
• 9:47
  I've
• 9:47
  been
• 9:47
  wanting
• 9:47
  to
• 9:47
  write
• 9:48
  a
• 9:48
  children's
• 9:48
  book
• 9:48
  for
• 9:48
  a
• 9:49
  long
• 9:49
  time.
• 9:49
  And
• 9:49
  so
• 9:50
  actually
• 9:50
  when
• 9:50
  my
• 9:50
  son
• 9:51
  was
• 9:51
  very
• 9:51
  little,
• 9:52
  I
• 9:52
  found
• 9:52
  through
• 9:53
  my
• 9:53
  business
• 9:53
  network
• 9:54
  that
• 9:54
  we
• 9:54
  had
• 9:54
  a
• 9:55
  publishing
• 9:55
  company
• 9:55
  right
• 9:55
  here
• 9:56
  where
• 9:56
  I
• 9:56
  live
• 9:56
  in
• 9:56
  the
• 9:56
  Lehigh
• 9:56
  Valley.
• 9:57
  So
• 9:57
  it's
• 9:57
  a
• 9:57
  really
• 9:58
  great
• 9:58
  area.
• 9:58
  We're
• 9:58
  about
• 9:59
  halfway
• 9:59
  between
• 9:59
  New
• 10:00
  York
• 10:00
  and
• 10:00
  Philadelphia.
• 10:01
  Yeah.
• 10:01
  Pennsylvania.
• 10:02
  And
• 10:02
  so
• 10:03
  I
• 10:03
  met
• 10:03
  with
• 10:03
  her
• 10:03
  years
• 10:04
  ago
• 10:04
  when
• 10:04
  my
• 10:04
  son
• 10:05
  was
• 10:05
  very
• 10:05
  little.
• 10:05
  So
• 10:05
  again,
• 10:05
  this
• 10:05
  is
• 10:06
  going
• 10:06
  back
• 10:06
  seven
• 10:07
  years
• 10:07
  ago.
• 10:08
  I
• 10:08
  just
• 10:08
  told
• 10:08
  her
• 10:09
  I
• 10:09
  really
• 10:09
  have
• 10:09
  interest
• 10:10
  in
• 10:10
  writing
• 10:10
  a
• 10:10
  children's
• 10:10
  book.
• 10:11
  And
• 10:11
  that
• 10:11
  wasn't
• 10:11
  a
• 10:11
  big
• 10:12
  genre
• 10:12
  for
• 10:12
  her
• 10:12
  publishing
• 10:13
  company
• 10:13
  yet.
• 10:13
  Her
• 10:14
  publishing
• 10:14
  company
• 10:14
  is
• 10:14
  called
• 10:15
  Bright
• 10:15
  Communications.
• 10:16
  So
• 10:16
  again,
• 10:16
  Jennifer
• 10:16
  and
• 10:17
  I
• 10:17
  had
• 10:17
  coffee
• 10:17
  and
• 10:18
  she
• 10:18
  just
• 10:18
  talked
• 10:18
  me
• 10:19
  a
• 10:19
  little
• 10:19
  bit
• 10:19
  about
• 10:19
  her
• 10:19
  publishing
• 10:20
  company
• 10:20
  and
• 10:20
  her
• 10:20
  processes
• 10:21
  and
• 10:21
  just
• 10:21
  said,
• 10:22
  I'm
• 10:22
  here
• 10:22
  whenever
• 10:22
  you're
• 10:23
  ready.
• 10:23
  And
• 10:24
  so
• 10:24
  I
• 10:24
  just
• 10:24
  put
• 10:25
  a
• 10:25
  pin
• 10:25
  in
• 10:25
  that
• 10:25
  and
• 10:25
  thought,
• 10:26
  I
• 10:26
  will
• 10:26
  write
• 10:26
  this
• 10:26
  book
• 10:27
  one
• 10:27
  day.
• 10:27
  I
• 10:27
  just
• 10:27
  don't
• 10:28
  know
• 10:28
  what
• 10:28
  it's
• 10:28
  going
• 10:28
  to
• 10:28
  be.
• 10:28
  And
• 10:29
  a
• 10:29
  lot
• 10:29
  of
• 10:29
  ideas
• 10:29
  popped
• 10:30
  in
• 10:30
  my
• 10:30
  head.
• 10:30
  So
• 10:31
  when
• 10:31
  we
• 10:31
  went
• 10:31
  through
• 10:31
  everything
• 10:32
  that
• 10:32
  we
• 10:32
  did,
• 10:32
  I
• 10:32
  reached
• 10:33
  back
• 10:33
  out
• 10:33
  to
• 10:33
  Jennifer
• 10:34
  and
• 10:34
  had
• 10:35
  a
• 10:35
  conversation
• 10:35
  with
• 10:35
  her
• 10:35
  again.
• 10:36
  And
• 10:36
  what
• 10:36
  I
• 10:36
  love
• 10:36
  about
• 10:37
  write
• 10:37
  Communications.
• 10:38
  And
• 10:38
  Jennifer
• 10:39
  is
• 10:39
  that
• 10:39
  she
• 10:39
  calls
• 10:39
  herself
• 10:40
  a
• 10:40
  book
• 10:40
  doula,
• 10:41
  that
• 10:41
  she's
• 10:41
  really
• 10:41
  helping
• 10:41
  people
• 10:42
  birth
• 10:42
  ideas.
• 10:43
  Right.
• 10:43
  And
• 10:44
  because
• 10:44
  I
• 10:44
  also,
• 10:45
  I
• 10:45
  am
• 10:45
  a
• 10:46
  communications
• 10:46
  consultant
• 10:47
  and
• 10:47
  have
• 10:47
  my
• 10:47
  own
• 10:47
  llc,
• 10:48
  Jennifer
• 10:49
  and
• 10:49
  I
• 10:49
  actually.
• 10:50
  So
• 10:50
  I'm
• 10:51
  did
• 10:51
  the
• 10:51
  hybrid
• 10:52
  publishing
• 10:52
  model,
• 10:52
  but
• 10:53
  I
• 10:53
  actually
• 10:53
  did
• 10:53
  trade
• 10:54
  for
• 10:54
  services
• 10:55
  with
• 10:55
  Jennifer.
• 10:55
  So
• 10:55
  my
• 10:56
  situation
• 10:56
  is
• 10:56
  very
• 10:57
  unique
• 10:57
  to
• 10:57
  me.
• 10:58
  So
• 10:58
  in
• 10:58
  turn,
• 10:59
  Jennifer
• 10:59
  is
• 11:00
  also
• 11:00
  a
• 11:00
  published
• 11:00
  author.
• 11:01
  She
• 11:01
  did
• 11:01
  this
• 11:01
  really
• 11:01
  neat
• 11:02
  Mommy
• 11:03
  and
• 11:03
  Me
• 11:03
  coloring
• 11:04
  book
• 11:04
  where
• 11:04
  she
• 11:04
  published
• 11:05
  a
• 11:05
  coloring
• 11:05
  book
• 11:05
  where
• 11:05
  on
• 11:06
  one
• 11:06
  side
• 11:06
  of
• 11:06
  the
• 11:06
  coloring
• 11:07
  book,
• 11:07
  there's
• 11:07
  a
• 11:07
  kid
• 11:08
  version
• 11:08
  of
• 11:08
  a
• 11:08
  picture,
• 11:09
  and
• 11:09
  then
• 11:09
  on
• 11:09
  the
• 11:09
  other
• 11:09
  side
• 11:10
  is
• 11:10
  one
• 11:10
  for
• 11:10
  a
• 11:10
  parent
• 11:11
  that's
• 11:11
  a
• 11:11
  little
• 11:11
  more
• 11:11
  detailed.
• 11:12
  And
• 11:12
  then
• 11:12
  there's
• 11:13
  little
• 11:13
  prompts
• 11:13
  at
• 11:13
  the
• 11:13
  bottom
• 11:14
  of
• 11:14
  the
• 11:14
  coloring
• 11:15
  pages,
• 11:15
  ask
• 11:15
  questions
• 11:16
  to
• 11:16
  engage
• 11:16
  conversation.
• 11:17
  And
• 11:18
  so
• 11:18
  I
• 11:18
  actually
• 11:19
  did
• 11:19
  a
• 11:19
  whole
• 11:20
  kind
• 11:20
  of
• 11:20
  like
• 11:20
  a
• 11:20
  business
• 11:21
  plan
• 11:21
  or
• 11:21
  a
• 11:21
  marketing
• 11:22
  plan
• 11:22
  for
• 11:23
  Jennifer's
• 11:23
  book
• 11:23
  in
• 11:24
  return
• 11:24
  for
• 11:24
  publishing
• 11:25
  services
• 11:25
  for
• 11:26
  my
• 11:26
  book.
• 11:26
  So
• 11:26
  it
• 11:26
  was
• 11:27
  a
• 11:27
  really
• 11:27
  neat
• 11:27
  opportunity
• 11:28
  for
• 11:28
  me
• 11:28
  to
• 11:29
  learn
• 11:29
  a
• 11:29
  lot
• 11:30
  about
• 11:30
  books
• 11:31
  and
• 11:31
  how
• 11:31
  to
• 11:31
  come
• 11:31
  up
• 11:31
  with
• 11:32
  creative
• 11:32
  ideas
• 11:32
  to
• 11:33
  market
• 11:33
  them,
• 11:33
  because
• 11:33
  that
• 11:33
  was
• 11:34
  new
• 11:34
  to
• 11:34
  me.
• 11:34
  But
• 11:35
  then
• 11:35
  in
• 11:35
  turn,
• 11:35
  Jennifer
• 11:35
  shared
• 11:36
  her
• 11:36
  publishing
• 11:37
  wisdom
• 11:37
  and
• 11:37
  services
• 11:37
  with
• 11:38
  me,
• 11:38
  and
• 11:38
  so
• 11:38
  we
• 11:39
  did
• 11:39
  a
• 11:39
  one
• 11:39
  for
• 11:39
  one
• 11:40
  trade.
• 11:40
  So
• 11:40
  she
• 11:40
  published
• 11:41
  my
• 11:41
  book,
• 11:41
  and
• 11:41
  I
• 11:41
  helped
• 11:41
  her
• 11:42
  market
• 11:42
  her
• 11:42
  book.
• 11:43
  Incredible.
• 11:44
  Yeah.
• 11:45
  You're
• 11:45
  the
• 11:45
  first
• 11:45
  children's
• 11:46
  book
• 11:46
  author
• 11:46
  where
• 11:47
  I.
• 11:47
  They've
• 11:48
  actually
• 11:48
  told
• 11:48
  me
• 11:48
  they
• 11:49
  traded
• 11:50
  services
• 11:50
  for.
• 11:51
  Yeah,
• 11:51
  that's
• 11:52
  fantastic.
• 11:53
  And
• 11:53
  again,
• 11:53
  I.
• 11:54
  As
• 11:54
  we
• 11:54
  speak
• 11:54
  to
• 11:55
  aspiring
• 11:55
  authors,
• 11:56
  sometimes
• 11:56
  people
• 11:57
  think,
• 11:57
  you
• 11:57
  know
• 11:57
  what,
• 11:57
  I
• 11:57
  just
• 11:58
  don't
• 11:58
  have
• 11:58
  the
• 11:58
  funds
• 11:59
  to
• 12:00
  bring
• 12:01
  something
• 12:01
  to
• 12:02
  life.
• 12:02
  But
• 12:03
  possibly
• 12:03
  you
• 12:03
  have
• 12:04
  skill
• 12:04
  set
• 12:05
  that
• 12:05
  you
• 12:05
  could
• 12:05
  trade
• 12:05
  on.
• 12:05
  Absolutely.
• 12:06
  So
• 12:06
  you
• 12:06
  never
• 12:07
  know.
• 12:07
  So.
• 12:07
  So
• 12:08
  thank
• 12:08
  you,
• 12:09
  Andrea,
• 12:09
  for
• 12:09
  sharing
• 12:10
  that.
• 12:10
  That's
• 12:10
  fantastic.
• 12:12
  I
• 12:12
  feel
• 12:12
  very
• 12:12
  blessed
• 12:13
  that
• 12:13
  I
• 12:13
  was
• 12:13
  able
• 12:13
  to
• 12:13
  do
• 12:13
  that.
• 12:14
  So
• 12:14
  you
• 12:14
  did
• 12:15
  a
• 12:15
  hybrid
• 12:16
  method
• 12:17
  and
• 12:18
  you're
• 12:18
  on
• 12:19
  Amazon,
• 12:20
  so
• 12:20
  you
• 12:20
  went
• 12:20
  through
• 12:20
  KDP,
• 12:21
  is
• 12:22
  that
• 12:22
  correct?
• 12:22
  Yeah.
• 12:22
  So
• 12:23
  they
• 12:23
  work
• 12:23
  through.
• 12:24
  So
• 12:24
  IngramSpark
• 12:25
  is
• 12:25
  the
• 12:25
  company
• 12:26
  that
• 12:26
  Jennifer
• 12:26
  partners
• 12:27
  with
• 12:27
  for
• 12:27
  publishing.
• 12:28
  So
• 12:28
  all
• 12:28
  my
• 12:28
  book
• 12:28
  files
• 12:29
  live
• 12:29
  there.
• 12:29
  So
• 12:30
  as
• 12:30
  I
• 12:30
  have
• 12:30
  access
• 12:31
  to
• 12:31
  that
• 12:31
  backend.
• 12:32
  But
• 12:32
  yes,
• 12:32
  they
• 12:32
  made
• 12:32
  sure
• 12:32
  I
• 12:33
  was
• 12:33
  on
• 12:33
  Amazon.
• 12:34
  My
• 12:34
  book
• 12:34
  is
• 12:34
  on
• 12:34
  Barnes
• 12:35
  and
• 12:35
  Noble.
• 12:35
  It's
• 12:36
  actually
• 12:36
  in
• 12:36
  store
• 12:37
  in
• 12:37
  a
• 12:37
  local
• 12:37
  Barnes
• 12:38
  and
• 12:38
  Noble
• 12:38
  here
• 12:38
  in
• 12:38
  the
• 12:38
  Lehigh
• 12:39
  Valley.
• 12:39
  Okay.
• 12:40
  And
• 12:40
  yeah,
• 12:40
  so
• 12:40
  pretty
• 12:41
  much
• 12:41
  any
• 12:41
  local.
• 12:42
  Most
• 12:42
  local
• 12:42
  publishers
• 12:43
  can
• 12:43
  order
• 12:44
  it
• 12:44
  as
• 12:44
  well.
• 12:44
  So.
• 12:45
  So
• 12:45
  you
• 12:45
  never
• 12:45
  used
• 12:46
  Amazon's
• 12:46
  KDP
• 12:47
  services?
• 12:48
  No,
• 12:48
  I
• 12:49
  did
• 12:49
  not.
• 12:49
  Okay.
• 12:50
  And
• 12:50
  the
• 12:50
  only
• 12:51
  reason
• 12:51
  I
• 12:51
  ask
• 12:51
  is,
• 12:53
  do
• 12:53
  you
• 12:53
  have
• 12:53
  the
• 12:54
  rights
• 12:54
  to
• 12:54
  the
• 12:54
  book
• 12:55
  files?
• 12:56
  Yes.
• 12:56
  Okay.
• 12:57
  And
• 12:57
  again,
• 12:58
  I.
• 12:58
  I'm
• 12:58
  always
• 12:59
  curious
• 12:59
  because
• 13:00
  I
• 13:00
  find
• 13:01
  as
• 13:01
  I've
• 13:01
  been
• 13:01
  talking
• 13:02
  to
• 13:02
  different
• 13:02
  children's
• 13:03
  book
• 13:03
  authors,
• 13:04
  it's
• 13:04
  that
• 13:05
  print
• 13:05
  on
• 13:05
  demand
• 13:06
  and
• 13:07
  like
• 13:07
  a
• 13:07
  Little
• 13:08
  deeper
• 13:08
  reach
• 13:09
  in
• 13:09
  terms
• 13:09
  of
• 13:09
  your
• 13:10
  book,
• 13:11
  like
• 13:11
  getting
• 13:11
  the
• 13:11
  distribution.
• 13:13
  Gotcha.
• 13:14
  Yeah.
• 13:14
  And
• 13:14
  you'll
• 13:14
  find
• 13:15
  that
• 13:15
  also
• 13:16
  if
• 13:16
  you
• 13:16
  go
• 13:16
  directly
• 13:17
  through
• 13:17
  kdp,
• 13:18
  you
• 13:18
  could
• 13:18
  probably
• 13:19
  drop
• 13:19
  your
• 13:20
  retail
• 13:20
  price
• 13:21
  a
• 13:21
  bit.
• 13:21
  Okay.
• 13:22
  Because.
• 13:22
  Something
• 13:23
  to
• 13:23
  look
• 13:23
  into.
• 13:23
  Yeah.
• 13:24
  So
• 13:24
  I
• 13:24
  would
• 13:24
  definitely
• 13:25
  encourage
• 13:25
  that
• 13:25
  because
• 13:26
  I'll
• 13:26
  give
• 13:26
  you
• 13:27
  the
• 13:27
  reason
• 13:27
  I
• 13:28
  say
• 13:28
  that
• 13:28
  is
• 13:28
  I
• 13:29
  like
• 13:29
  to
• 13:29
  buy
• 13:30
  every.
• 13:31
  Every
• 13:31
  guest
• 13:31
  children's
• 13:32
  book.
• 13:32
  I've
• 13:33
  got
• 13:33
  five
• 13:33
  grandchildren,
• 13:34
  so
• 13:34
  the
• 13:35
  books
• 13:35
  definitely
• 13:35
  get
• 13:36
  ready.
• 13:36
  And
• 13:37
  so
• 13:37
  when
• 13:37
  I
• 13:38
  went
• 13:38
  to
• 13:38
  look
• 13:38
  at
• 13:38
  yours,
• 13:39
  I
• 13:39
  know
• 13:39
  we
• 13:40
  ended
• 13:40
  up
• 13:41
  setting
• 13:41
  up
• 13:41
  this
• 13:42
  interview
• 13:42
  pretty
• 13:42
  quick.
• 13:43
  So
• 13:43
  I
• 13:43
  thought,
• 13:44
  oh,
• 13:44
  you
• 13:44
  know
• 13:44
  what?
• 13:44
  I'll
• 13:44
  just
• 13:44
  go
• 13:45
  and
• 13:45
  buy
• 13:45
  the
• 13:45
  ebook.
• 13:47
  That's
• 13:48
  the
• 13:48
  very
• 13:48
  least
• 13:48
  I
• 13:48
  can
• 13:49
  do.
• 13:49
  And
• 13:49
  I.
• 13:49
  On
• 13:50
  Amazon,
• 13:50
  there
• 13:51
  is
• 13:51
  no
• 13:51
  ebook.
• 13:52
  Okay.
• 13:53
  And
• 13:53
  anyways,
• 13:54
  I'm
• 13:54
  just
• 13:54
  throwing
• 13:54
  that
• 13:54
  out
• 13:55
  to
• 13:55
  you
• 13:55
  that
• 13:55
  I
• 13:55
  think
• 13:56
  you
• 13:56
  could
• 13:56
  probably
• 13:57
  get
• 13:57
  a
• 13:58
  lower
• 13:58
  price,
• 13:59
  a
• 13:59
  lower
• 14:00
  cost
• 14:00
  to
• 14:00
  you
• 14:00
  through.
• 14:01
  If
• 14:01
  you
• 14:01
  take
• 14:01
  the
• 14:01
  files
• 14:02
  and
• 14:02
  put
• 14:02
  them
• 14:02
  through
• 14:03
  kdp.
• 14:04
  Okay.
• 14:04
  And
• 14:04
  then
• 14:04
  also
• 14:05
  it'd
• 14:05
  probably
• 14:06
  be
• 14:06
  worth.
• 14:06
  I'm
• 14:07
  not.
• 14:07
  You're
• 14:07
  not
• 14:07
  going
• 14:08
  to
• 14:08
  get
• 14:08
  a
• 14:08
  ton
• 14:08
  of
• 14:08
  sales
• 14:09
  on
• 14:09
  an
• 14:10
  ebook,
• 14:11
  but
• 14:12
  at
• 14:12
  least
• 14:12
  you
• 14:13
  have
• 14:13
  it
• 14:13
  available
• 14:14
  in
• 14:14
  the
• 14:14
  marketplace.
• 14:15
  No,
• 14:16
  I
• 14:16
  really
• 14:16
  appreciate
• 14:16
  that
• 14:17
  tip.
• 14:17
  But
• 14:17
  I
• 14:17
  would
• 14:18
  be
• 14:18
  happy.
• 14:18
  I
• 14:18
  have
• 14:19
  a
• 14:19
  stash
• 14:19
  of
• 14:19
  these
• 14:20
  books
• 14:20
  in
• 14:20
  my
• 14:20
  home.
• 14:21
  And
• 14:21
  Rick,
• 14:21
  I
• 14:21
  would
• 14:21
  be
• 14:22
  happy
• 14:22
  to
• 14:23
  autograph
• 14:23
  them
• 14:23
  and
• 14:24
  mail
• 14:24
  them
• 14:24
  so
• 14:25
  we
• 14:25
  can
• 14:25
  connect
• 14:25
  with
• 14:26
  your
• 14:26
  address
• 14:26
  after
• 14:26
  this.
• 14:26
  I'd
• 14:27
  love
• 14:27
  to
• 14:27
  send
• 14:27
  them
• 14:27
  to
• 14:27
  your
• 14:27
  grandkids
• 14:28
  as
• 14:28
  a
• 14:28
  token
• 14:29
  of
• 14:29
  my
• 14:29
  gratitude
• 14:29
  for
• 14:29
  inviting
• 14:30
  me
• 14:30
  on
• 14:30
  your.
• 14:30
  No,
• 14:30
  no,
• 14:31
  that.
• 14:31
  That's
• 14:31
  fantastic.
• 14:32
  I'm
• 14:32
  going
• 14:32
  to
• 14:32
  make
• 14:33
  sure
• 14:33
  that
• 14:33
  I
• 14:33
  purchase
• 14:34
  one.
• 14:34
  Okay.
• 14:35
  Okay.
• 14:35
  Just
• 14:36
  so
• 14:36
  you
• 14:36
  know,
• 14:36
  let
• 14:36
  me
• 14:36
  send.
• 14:37
  The
• 14:37
  other
• 14:37
  four
• 14:37
  to
• 14:37
  you.
• 14:38
  It
• 14:38
  would
• 14:38
  be
• 14:38
  my
• 14:38
  honor.
• 14:39
  And
• 14:39
  I
• 14:39
  just.
• 14:39
  I
• 14:39
  love
• 14:39
  when
• 14:40
  they
• 14:40
  can
• 14:40
  just
• 14:40
  get
• 14:40
  into
• 14:40
  the
• 14:40
  hands
• 14:41
  of
• 14:41
  joyful
• 14:41
  kids.
• 14:42
  Okay,
• 14:42
  thanks.
• 14:43
  That's
• 14:43
  a
• 14:43
  really
• 14:43
  appreciated.
• 14:45
  When
• 14:45
  you.
• 14:45
  So
• 14:46
  you
• 14:46
  did
• 14:46
  a
• 14:46
  print
• 14:47
  on
• 14:47
  demand
• 14:47
  or
• 14:47
  did
• 14:48
  you
• 14:48
  do
• 14:48
  a
• 14:48
  fairly
• 14:49
  large
• 14:49
  run?
• 14:50
  So
• 14:50
  most
• 14:50
  of
• 14:50
  mine
• 14:50
  is
• 14:51
  print.
• 14:51
  So
• 14:52
  print
• 14:52
  on
• 14:52
  demand
• 14:52
  is
• 14:53
  mostly
• 14:53
  how
• 14:53
  I'm
• 14:53
  operating.
• 14:54
  I've
• 14:54
  ordered
• 14:54
  a
• 14:54
  couple
• 14:55
  small
• 14:55
  runs.
• 14:55
  I
• 14:55
  did.
• 14:56
  I
• 14:56
  launched
• 14:56
  my
• 14:56
  book
• 14:57
  at
• 14:57
  a
• 14:57
  local
• 14:57
  coffee
• 14:58
  shop
• 14:58
  here
• 14:58
  in
• 14:58
  the
• 14:58
  Lehigh
• 14:59
  Valley
• 14:59
  because
• 14:59
  they
• 15:00
  have
• 15:00
  a
• 15:00
  regular
• 15:00
  children's
• 15:01
  reading
• 15:01
  time.
• 15:01
  And
• 15:02
  it's
• 15:02
  a
• 15:02
  coffee
• 15:02
  shop.
• 15:02
  I
• 15:03
  love
• 15:03
  the
• 15:03
  owner
• 15:03
  of
• 15:03
  that
• 15:04
  coffee
• 15:04
  shop.
• 15:04
  It's
• 15:04
  called
• 15:04
  Jay's
• 15:05
  Local
• 15:05
  in
• 15:05
  Allentown.
• 15:06
  Lyle
• 15:06
  is
• 15:07
  just
• 15:07
  a
• 15:07
  great
• 15:07
  community
• 15:08
  man.
• 15:08
  He
• 15:08
  invites
• 15:08
  other
• 15:09
  businesses.
• 15:09
  His
• 15:10
  business
• 15:10
  model
• 15:10
  is
• 15:10
  fantastic.
• 15:11
  So
• 15:11
  he
• 15:11
  won
• 15:11
  by
• 15:12
  other
• 15:12
  aspiring,
• 15:13
  especially
• 15:13
  like
• 15:14
  food
• 15:14
  businesses
• 15:15
  into
• 15:15
  his
• 15:16
  kitchen
• 15:16
  and
• 15:16
  allow
• 15:17
  them
• 15:17
  to
• 15:17
  do
• 15:17
  takeovers
• 15:18
  where
• 15:18
  they
• 15:18
  can
• 15:18
  have
• 15:18
  a
• 15:19
  few
• 15:19
  days
• 15:19
  a
• 15:19
  week
• 15:19
  over
• 15:19
  a
• 15:20
  period
• 15:20
  to
• 15:20
  really
• 15:21
  build
• 15:21
  their
• 15:21
  business
• 15:21
  and
• 15:22
  brand.
• 15:22
  Yeah,
• 15:22
  he's
• 15:23
  a
• 15:23
  tremendous
• 15:24
  individual
• 15:24
  and
• 15:24
  I
• 15:25
  just
• 15:25
  really
• 15:25
  loved
• 15:26
  what
• 15:26
  he
• 15:26
  was
• 15:26
  doing.
• 15:26
  I
• 15:27
  popped
• 15:27
  in
• 15:27
  there
• 15:27
  to
• 15:27
  get
• 15:27
  coffee
• 15:28
  on
• 15:28
  the
• 15:28
  way
• 15:28
  to
• 15:28
  my
• 15:28
  coworking
• 15:29
  space,
• 15:29
  because
• 15:29
  otherwise
• 15:30
  I'm
• 15:30
  here
• 15:30
  in
• 15:30
  my
• 15:30
  home
• 15:31
  office,
• 15:31
  which
• 15:31
  is
• 15:31
  in
• 15:31
  the
• 15:32
  basement
• 15:32
  of
• 15:32
  my
• 15:32
  house.
• 15:33
  But
• 15:33
  anyway,
• 15:33
  I
• 15:34
  spoke
• 15:34
  with
• 15:34
  him
• 15:34
  about
• 15:34
  coming
• 15:35
  to
• 15:35
  read
• 15:35
  there,
• 15:35
  and
• 15:35
  so
• 15:36
  he
• 15:36
  allowed
• 15:36
  me
• 15:36
  to
• 15:36
  launch
• 15:36
  my
• 15:37
  book
• 15:37
  that
• 15:37
  way.
• 15:37
  So
• 15:37
  I
• 15:37
  read
• 15:38
  a
• 15:38
  couple
• 15:38
  other
• 15:38
  books
• 15:39
  that
• 15:39
  had
• 15:39
  similar
• 15:40
  themes
• 15:40
  to
• 15:40
  mine
• 15:40
  and
• 15:41
  then
• 15:41
  use
• 15:41
  that
• 15:41
  as
• 15:42
  a
• 15:42
  launch
• 15:42
  opportunity
• 15:43
  to
• 15:43
  meet
• 15:43
  some
• 15:43
  moms
• 15:44
  in
• 15:44
  our
• 15:44
  community
• 15:45
  and
• 15:45
  to
• 15:45
  do.
• 15:46
  To
• 15:46
  do
• 15:46
  a
• 15:46
  signing
• 15:46
  of
• 15:47
  illustrator.
• 15:47
  Courtney
• 15:48
  was
• 15:48
  there
• 15:48
  with
• 15:48
  me,
• 15:48
  so
• 15:48
  it
• 15:49
  was
• 15:49
  really
• 15:49
  great
• 15:49
  event.
• 15:50
  So
• 15:50
  I
• 15:50
  ordered
• 15:50
  a
• 15:50
  small
• 15:51
  run
• 15:51
  of
• 15:51
  books
• 15:51
  for
• 15:51
  that
• 15:52
  event,
• 15:52
  and
• 15:52
  then
• 15:52
  I
• 15:52
  have
• 15:53
  about
• 15:53
  like
• 15:53
  a
• 15:53
  hundred
• 15:54
  on
• 15:54
  hand
• 15:54
  just
• 15:54
  in
• 15:54
  case
• 15:55
  I
• 15:55
  have
• 15:55
  opportunities
• 15:56
  to
• 15:56
  go
• 15:57
  sell
• 15:57
  or
• 15:57
  go
• 15:57
  to.
• 15:58
  There's
• 15:58
  a
• 15:58
  lot
• 15:58
  of
• 15:58
  local
• 15:58
  craft
• 15:59
  fairs
• 15:59
  and
• 15:59
  things
• 16:00
  like
• 16:00
  that
• 16:00
  in
• 16:00
  the
• 16:01
  Lehigh
• 16:01
  Valley,
• 16:01
  so
• 16:01
  I
• 16:02
  always
• 16:02
  want
• 16:02
  to
• 16:02
  have
• 16:02
  some
• 16:02
  on
• 16:02
  hand.
• 16:03
  I've
• 16:03
  also
• 16:03
  just
• 16:04
  found
• 16:04
  that
• 16:04
  I
• 16:04
  have,
• 16:05
  again,
• 16:05
  being
• 16:05
  in
• 16:05
  the
• 16:06
  community
• 16:06
  of
• 16:06
  miscarriage,
• 16:07
  there's
• 16:07
  a
• 16:07
  lot
• 16:07
  of
• 16:08
  people
• 16:08
  that
• 16:08
  go
• 16:08
  through
• 16:08
  that.
• 16:09
  And
• 16:09
  so
• 16:09
  anytime
• 16:10
  I
• 16:10
  see,
• 16:10
  especially
• 16:10
  in
• 16:10
  my
• 16:11
  social
• 16:11
  networks,
• 16:11
  that
• 16:12
  somebody
• 16:12
  goes
• 16:12
  that
• 16:12
  I
• 16:13
  like
• 16:13
  to
• 16:13
  reach
• 16:13
  out
• 16:13
  and
• 16:14
  send
• 16:14
  a
• 16:14
  copy
• 16:14
  of
• 16:14
  the
• 16:14
  book
• 16:15
  to
• 16:15
  them
• 16:15
  as
• 16:15
  well.
• 16:15
  So
• 16:15
  just
• 16:15
  having
• 16:16
  a
• 16:16
  couple
• 16:16
  in
• 16:16
  hand
• 16:16
  to
• 16:16
  be
• 16:17
  able
• 16:17
  to
• 16:17
  send
• 16:17
  out
• 16:17
  is
• 16:17
  a
• 16:18
  really
• 16:18
  good
• 16:18
  thing
• 16:19
  to
• 16:19
  have.
• 16:19
  Cause
• 16:20
  I
• 16:20
  noticed
• 16:20
  on
• 16:20
  your
• 16:21
  Instagram
• 16:21
  you
• 16:22
  had
• 16:22
  a
• 16:22
  big
• 16:23
  100.
• 16:24
  Yeah,
• 16:24
  yeah,
• 16:25
  yeah.
• 16:26
  I
• 16:26
  thought
• 16:26
  that
• 16:26
  was
• 16:27
  very
• 16:27
  cool.
• 16:27
  Did
• 16:27
  you
• 16:28
  sell
• 16:28
  those
• 16:28
  books
• 16:28
  directly
• 16:29
  yourself?
• 16:30
  So
• 16:30
  that
• 16:30
  was
• 16:30
  even
• 16:30
  when
• 16:31
  I
• 16:31
  reached
• 16:31
  100
• 16:32
  on
• 16:32
  through
• 16:33
  Ingramspark.
• 16:34
  So
• 16:34
  again,
• 16:34
  my.
• 16:34
  That's
• 16:34
  where
• 16:35
  my
• 16:35
  files
• 16:35
  live.
• 16:35
  So
• 16:36
  that's
• 16:36
  who
• 16:36
  write
• 16:36
  communications
• 16:37
  partners
• 16:37
  with
• 16:38
  for
• 16:38
  book
• 16:38
  printing
• 16:39
  is
• 16:39
  a
• 16:39
  publisher.
• 16:40
  So
• 16:40
  that's
• 16:40
  where
• 16:41
  I
• 16:41
  was
• 16:41
  getting
• 16:41
  my
• 16:41
  data.
• 16:42
  So,
• 16:42
  yeah,
• 16:42
  I
• 16:42
  get
• 16:42
  monthly
• 16:43
  sales
• 16:43
  reports
• 16:43
  from
• 16:43
  them
• 16:43
  on
• 16:44
  how
• 16:44
  many
• 16:44
  are
• 16:44
  being
• 16:44
  ordered
• 16:45
  through
• 16:45
  Amazon
• 16:45
  or
• 16:46
  Barnes
• 16:46
  and
• 16:46
  Noble
• 16:46
  or
• 16:46
  anywhere
• 16:47
  online.
• 16:47
  All
• 16:47
  my
• 16:48
  digital
• 16:48
  sales
• 16:48
  go
• 16:48
  through
• 16:49
  there.
• 16:49
  And
• 16:49
  then
• 16:49
  I
• 16:50
  get
• 16:50
  compensation
• 16:51
  periodically
• 16:51
  through
• 16:52
  that.
• 16:52
  So
• 16:52
  that
• 16:52
  was
• 16:52
  primarily
• 16:53
  just
• 16:53
  through
• 16:53
  online
• 16:54
  book
• 16:54
  sales.
• 16:54
  Good
• 16:55
  for.
• 16:55
  Then
• 16:55
  again,
• 16:55
  I
• 16:56
  have.
• 16:56
  Thank
• 16:56
  you.
• 16:56
  I
• 16:57
  was
• 16:57
  really
• 16:57
  excited.
• 16:57
  So
• 16:57
  I
• 16:57
  think
• 16:57
  we're
• 16:58
  closer
• 16:58
  to
• 16:58
  200
• 16:59
  now,
• 16:59
  which
• 16:59
  is
• 16:59
  exciting.
• 17:00
  And
• 17:00
  I
• 17:00
  have
• 17:00
  a
• 17:00
  couple
• 17:01
  really
• 17:01
  neat
• 17:01
  opportunities
• 17:02
  coming
• 17:02
  up,
• 17:02
  including
• 17:03
  a
• 17:03
  book
• 17:03
  signing
• 17:03
  at
• 17:03
  a
• 17:03
  local
• 17:04
  Barnes
• 17:04
  and
• 17:04
  Noble
• 17:04
  in
• 17:04
  our
• 17:05
  area
• 17:05
  as
• 17:05
  well.
• 17:05
  So
• 17:05
  I'm
• 17:05
  hoping
• 17:06
  through
• 17:06
  more
• 17:07
  of
• 17:07
  those
• 17:07
  we'll
• 17:07
  see
• 17:07
  those
• 17:08
  sales
• 17:08
  online
• 17:08
  go
• 17:09
  up
• 17:09
  and
• 17:09
  I'll
• 17:09
  be
• 17:09
  able
• 17:09
  to
• 17:09
  get
• 17:10
  rid
• 17:10
  of
• 17:10
  some
• 17:10
  of
• 17:10
  my
• 17:10
  stash
• 17:11
  and
• 17:11
  then
• 17:11
  place
• 17:11
  a
• 17:11
  reorder.
• 17:12
  Fantastic.
• 17:13
  So
• 17:13
  I'm
• 17:13
  curious,
• 17:14
  and
• 17:14
  I
• 17:14
  know
• 17:14
  I
• 17:15
  sent
• 17:15
  you
• 17:16
  an
• 17:16
  email
• 17:16
  before
• 17:17
  we
• 17:17
  got
• 17:17
  on
• 17:18
  line
• 17:19
  here
• 17:19
  to
• 17:19
  discuss
• 17:19
  this,
• 17:20
  but
• 17:20
  I'm
• 17:20
  curious
• 17:21
  about.
• 17:22
  Everybody
• 17:23
  does
• 17:23
  it
• 17:23
  differently.
• 17:24
  And
• 17:25
  so
• 17:25
  I'm
• 17:25
  curious
• 17:25
  about
• 17:26
  a
• 17:27
  website.
• 17:27
  Is
• 17:28
  that
• 17:28
  something
• 17:28
  that
• 17:28
  you're
• 17:29
  thinking
• 17:29
  about
• 17:30
  doing
• 17:30
  to
• 17:30
  support
• 17:30
  your
• 17:31
  book
• 17:31
  or
• 17:31
  are.
• 17:32
  Do
• 17:32
  you
• 17:32
  have
• 17:32
  other
• 17:33
  books
• 17:34
  that
• 17:34
  are
• 17:34
  in
• 17:34
  your
• 17:34
  head
• 17:35
  and
• 17:35
  you're
• 17:35
  thinking,
• 17:36
  oh,
• 17:36
  maybe
• 17:36
  I
• 17:37
  should
• 17:37
  set
• 17:37
  up
• 17:37
  an
• 17:37
  author's
• 17:38
  website.
• 17:38
  Tell
• 17:39
  us,
• 17:39
  tell
• 17:39
  us
• 17:40
  what's
• 17:40
  going
• 17:40
  on
• 17:40
  there.
• 17:41
  Yeah.
• 17:41
  So
• 17:41
  I
• 17:41
  think
• 17:42
  that
• 17:42
  writing
• 17:42
  books
• 17:42
  becomes
• 17:44
  once
• 17:44
  you
• 17:44
  do
• 17:44
  it,
• 17:44
  it's.
• 17:45
  And
• 17:45
  again,
• 17:45
  I
• 17:46
  wrote
• 17:46
  a
• 17:46
  children's
• 17:46
  book.
• 17:46
  Obviously
• 17:47
  it's
• 17:47
  very
• 17:47
  different
• 17:47
  than
• 17:48
  writing
• 17:48
  a
• 17:48
  one
• 17:48
  or
• 17:48
  two
• 17:49
  hundred
• 17:49
  page
• 17:50
  book
• 17:50
  in
• 17:50
  another
• 17:50
  genre.
• 17:51
  But
• 17:51
  for
• 17:52
  writing
• 17:52
  this,
• 17:52
  it's
• 17:53
  almost
• 17:53
  like
• 17:53
  addictive.
• 17:54
  You
• 17:54
  just,
• 17:54
  you
• 17:54
  have
• 17:54
  so
• 17:55
  much
• 17:55
  fun
• 17:55
  doing
• 17:55
  it.
• 17:55
  It's
• 17:55
  such
• 17:56
  a
• 17:56
  passion
• 17:56
  project.
• 17:57
  So
• 17:57
  my
• 17:57
  book
• 17:57
  actually
• 17:58
  ends
• 17:58
  with
• 17:58
  a
• 17:58
  tiny
• 17:59
  cliffhanger
• 17:59
  at
• 17:59
  the
• 18:00
  end.
• 18:00
  So
• 18:01
  there
• 18:01
  is
• 18:01
  going
• 18:01
  to
• 18:01
  be
• 18:01
  another
• 18:02
  book
• 18:02
  featuring
• 18:02
  the
• 18:02
  same
• 18:03
  characters,
• 18:03
  Mama
• 18:04
  and
• 18:04
  son
• 18:04
  Goose
• 18:05
  having
• 18:05
  conversations
• 18:06
  about
• 18:06
  real
• 18:06
  life.
• 18:06
  Because
• 18:07
  that's
• 18:07
  how
• 18:07
  I
• 18:08
  can
• 18:08
  write.
• 18:08
  Because
• 18:08
  I
• 18:09
  spend
• 18:09
  lots
• 18:09
  of
• 18:10
  time
• 18:10
  talking
• 18:10
  to
• 18:10
  my
• 18:10
  son
• 18:11
  about
• 18:11
  big
• 18:11
  topics.
• 18:11
  Another
• 18:12
  book
• 18:12
  is
• 18:12
  already
• 18:12
  partially
• 18:13
  written.
• 18:13
  And
• 18:14
  so
• 18:14
  yes,
• 18:14
  I
• 18:14
  have
• 18:14
  thought
• 18:15
  about
• 18:15
  doing
• 18:16
  a
• 18:16
  website
• 18:16
  for
• 18:17
  just
• 18:17
  this
• 18:17
  particular
• 18:17
  book,
• 18:18
  but
• 18:18
  knowing
• 18:18
  that
• 18:18
  I
• 18:18
  already
• 18:19
  want
• 18:19
  to
• 18:19
  have
• 18:19
  another
• 18:19
  one,
• 18:20
  I
• 18:20
  do
• 18:20
  have
• 18:20
  an
• 18:20
  idea
• 18:21
  in
• 18:21
  mind
• 18:21
  for
• 18:22
  an
• 18:22
  author
• 18:22
  website.
• 18:23
  And
• 18:23
  then
• 18:23
  I
• 18:23
  feel
• 18:23
  like
• 18:23
  once
• 18:23
  I
• 18:24
  have
• 18:24
  that
• 18:24
  second
• 18:24
  one
• 18:24
  done
• 18:25
  and
• 18:25
  can
• 18:25
  have
• 18:26
  two
• 18:26
  books
• 18:26
  on
• 18:26
  there,
• 18:26
  that's
• 18:27
  when
• 18:27
  I
• 18:27
  will
• 18:27
  start
• 18:28
  running
• 18:28
  an
• 18:29
  author
• 18:29
  webpage.
• 18:30
  I
• 18:30
  do
• 18:30
  think
• 18:30
  that's
• 18:31
  a
• 18:31
  really
• 18:31
  great
• 18:32
  tool
• 18:32
  and
• 18:32
  a
• 18:32
  great
• 18:32
  way
• 18:33
  so
• 18:33
  that
• 18:33
  you
• 18:33
  can.
• 18:34
  For
• 18:34
  me,
• 18:34
  from
• 18:34
  a
• 18:35
  compensation
• 18:35
  standpoint,
• 18:36
  obviously
• 18:36
  if
• 18:36
  I'm
• 18:37
  selling
• 18:37
  the
• 18:38
  book,
• 18:38
  I
• 18:38
  could
• 18:38
  have
• 18:39
  an
• 18:39
  order
• 18:39
  link
• 18:39
  on
• 18:39
  there
• 18:39
  to
• 18:40
  go
• 18:40
  directly
• 18:40
  order
• 18:40
  through
• 18:41
  IngramSpark
• 18:41
  or
• 18:42
  I
• 18:42
  could
• 18:42
  have
• 18:43
  it
• 18:43
  ordered
• 18:43
  from
• 18:43
  my
• 18:44
  stash
• 18:44
  where
• 18:44
  I
• 18:44
  pre
• 18:44
  order
• 18:45
  and
• 18:45
  then
• 18:45
  I
• 18:45
  can
• 18:45
  make
• 18:46
  a
• 18:46
  larger
• 18:46
  amount
• 18:47
  of
• 18:47
  money
• 18:47
  when
• 18:48
  I
• 18:48
  order
• 18:48
  in
• 18:48
  bulk
• 18:48
  and
• 18:49
  then
• 18:49
  resell
• 18:49
  them.
• 18:50
  So
• 18:50
  that
• 18:50
  is
• 18:50
  a
• 18:50
  hope
• 18:50
  of
• 18:51
  mine
• 18:51
  in
• 18:51
  the
• 18:51
  long
• 18:51
  run.
• 18:51
  So
• 18:51
  I'm.
• 18:52
  The
• 18:52
  reason
• 18:52
  I
• 18:53
  ask
• 18:53
  is
• 18:53
  that
• 18:54
  in
• 18:54
  the
• 18:55
  interviews
• 18:55
  I've
• 18:56
  done,
• 18:57
  generally
• 18:57
  what
• 18:57
  happens
• 18:58
  is
• 18:59
  people
• 18:59
  do
• 19:00
  it.
• 19:00
  Authors
• 19:01
  come
• 19:01
  at
• 19:01
  it
• 19:02
  in
• 19:02
  two
• 19:02
  ways
• 19:02
  when
• 19:02
  it
• 19:02
  comes
• 19:03
  to
• 19:03
  their
• 19:03
  website
• 19:04
  development.
• 19:04
  They
• 19:05
  either
• 19:05
  have
• 19:06
  their
• 19:06
  name
• 19:06
  as
• 19:07
  their
• 19:07
  website
• 19:08
  or
• 19:09
  they'll
• 19:09
  take
• 19:10
  their
• 19:10
  main
• 19:10
  character
• 19:11
  and
• 19:11
  the
• 19:12
  main
• 19:12
  character
• 19:13
  will
• 19:13
  be
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  name
• 19:14
  of
• 19:14
  their
• 19:14
  website.
• 19:15
  Now,
• 19:16
  for
• 19:16
  example,
• 19:16
  my
• 19:17
  five
• 19:17
  grandchildren
• 19:18
  are
• 19:18
  co
• 19:18
  authors
• 19:19
  in
• 19:19
  our
• 19:19
  book
• 19:19
  and
• 19:19
  we
• 19:19
  have
• 19:20
  a
• 19:20
  book
• 19:20
  series.
• 19:21
  It's
• 19:21
  called
• 19:21
  Adventures
• 19:22
  of
• 19:22
  Caboose
• 19:23
  the
• 19:23
  Rocky
• 19:23
  Mountain
• 19:23
  bear.
• 19:24
  We've
• 19:24
  written
• 19:25
  38
• 19:25
  stories.
• 19:26
  Now
• 19:27
  we
• 19:27
  haven't
• 19:27
  produced
• 19:28
  38
• 19:28
  books
• 19:29
  yet,
• 19:29
  but
• 19:29
  we
• 19:29
  are
• 19:30
  working
• 19:30
  on
• 19:30
  our
• 19:31
  second
• 19:31
  one
• 19:31
  which
• 19:31
  is
• 19:32
  behind
• 19:33
  me,
• 19:33
  the
• 19:33
  book
• 19:34
  we
• 19:34
  named
• 19:34
  our
• 19:35
  website
• 19:35
  after
• 19:36
  our
• 19:36
  main
• 19:37
  character.
• 19:38
  So
• 19:38
  there's
• 19:38
  a
• 19:38
  different
• 19:38
  couple
• 19:39
  of
• 19:39
  different
• 19:39
  ways
• 19:39
  of
• 19:39
  doing
• 19:40
  it
• 19:40
  for
• 19:40
  sure.
• 19:40
  So
• 19:41
  if
• 19:41
  you're
• 19:41
  going
• 19:41
  to
• 19:42
  definitely
• 19:42
  go
• 19:43
  like
• 19:44
  I
• 19:44
  was
• 19:44
  talking
• 19:44
  to,
• 19:45
  I
• 19:45
  actually
• 19:45
  we
• 19:46
  just
• 19:46
  helped
• 19:46
  a
• 19:47
  book
• 19:47
  author
• 19:48
  who
• 19:48
  launched
• 19:49
  his
• 19:49
  fourth
• 19:50
  book
• 19:51
  and
• 19:51
  he
• 19:51
  wrote
• 19:51
  three
• 19:52
  books
• 19:52
  in
• 19:52
  the
• 19:52
  series
• 19:53
  and
• 19:54
  then
• 19:54
  he
• 19:55
  decided,
• 19:55
  oh,
• 19:56
  I've
• 19:57
  got
• 19:57
  a
• 19:57
  different
• 19:57
  idea
• 19:58
  for
• 19:58
  an
• 19:59
  another
• 19:59
  book
• 20:00
  which
• 20:00
  wasn't
• 20:01
  in
• 20:01
  the
• 20:01
  series.
• 20:02
  So
• 20:02
  he
• 20:03
  definitely
• 20:03
  named
• 20:03
  his
• 20:04
  website
• 20:04
  after
• 20:05
  himself
• 20:06
  as
• 20:06
  an
• 20:07
  author's
• 20:07
  website.
• 20:07
  Cause
• 20:08
  he
• 20:08
  knew
• 20:08
  that
• 20:09
  he
• 20:09
  was
• 20:09
  going
• 20:09
  to
• 20:10
  eventually
• 20:10
  branch
• 20:11
  out.
• 20:12
  So
• 20:12
  gives
• 20:13
  you.
• 20:13
  It
• 20:13
  just
• 20:13
  gives
• 20:13
  you
• 20:13
  some
• 20:13
  food
• 20:14
  for
• 20:14
  thought.
• 20:15
  Yeah,
• 20:15
  absolutely.
• 20:16
  And
• 20:16
  I
• 20:16
  appreciate
• 20:16
  that
• 20:17
  because
• 20:17
  that
• 20:17
  is.
• 20:17
  That
• 20:17
  was
• 20:18
  some
• 20:18
  of
• 20:18
  the
• 20:19
  hang
• 20:19
  up.
• 20:19
  And
• 20:19
  I
• 20:19
  laugh
• 20:20
  because
• 20:20
  again,
• 20:21
  I
• 20:21
  am
• 20:21
  very
• 20:21
  grateful
• 20:22
  for
• 20:22
  all
• 20:22
  the
• 20:22
  clients
• 20:22
  I
• 20:23
  get
• 20:23
  to
• 20:23
  work
• 20:23
  with
• 20:23
  from
• 20:23
  a
• 20:23
  communications
• 20:24
  perspective
• 20:25
  as
• 20:25
  a
• 20:25
  consultant.
• 20:26
  But
• 20:26
  then
• 20:26
  I
• 20:26
  laugh
• 20:26
  because
• 20:27
  sometimes
• 20:27
  I
• 20:27
  feel
• 20:27
  like
• 20:27
  I'm
• 20:27
  the
• 20:28
  worst
• 20:28
  client
• 20:28
  to
• 20:28
  have
• 20:29
  because
• 20:29
  I
• 20:30
  can
• 20:30
  be
• 20:30
  very
• 20:30
  indecisive
• 20:31
  and
• 20:31
  never
• 20:31
  wanna
• 20:31
  pull
• 20:32
  the
• 20:32
  trigger
• 20:32
  on
• 20:32
  anything.
• 20:33
  And
• 20:33
  I'd
• 20:33
  rather
• 20:33
  work
• 20:33
  on
• 20:34
  anybody
• 20:34
  else'
• 20:34
  project
• 20:35
  but
• 20:35
  my
• 20:35
  own.
• 20:36
  A
• 20:36
  lot
• 20:36
  of
• 20:36
  times
• 20:36
  I
• 20:36
  have
• 20:37
  these
• 20:37
  ideas
• 20:37
  that
• 20:37
  just
• 20:38
  take
• 20:38
  a
• 20:38
  long
• 20:38
  time
• 20:39
  to
• 20:39
  bring
• 20:40
  them
• 20:40
  full
• 20:40
  away
• 20:40
  from
• 20:40
  start
• 20:41
  to
• 20:41
  finish.
• 20:41
  So
• 20:42
  that
• 20:42
  is
• 20:42
  definitely
• 20:42
  in
• 20:42
  the
• 20:42
  works.
• 20:43
  And
• 20:43
  I
• 20:43
  appreciate
• 20:43
  your
• 20:43
  guidance
• 20:44
  on
• 20:44
  that
• 20:44
  because
• 20:45
  that
• 20:45
  was
• 20:45
  again,
• 20:45
  I
• 20:46
  was
• 20:46
  very
• 20:46
  close
• 20:46
  to
• 20:47
  just
• 20:47
  pushing
• 20:47
  through
• 20:48
  a
• 20:48
  one
• 20:48
  page
• 20:49
  website
• 20:49
  just
• 20:49
  for
• 20:50
  hope.
• 20:50
  It's
• 20:50
  a
• 20:50
  blanket.
• 20:50
  And
• 20:51
  I
• 20:51
  thought
• 20:51
  I'm
• 20:51
  gonna
• 20:52
  pause
• 20:52
  here
• 20:52
  because
• 20:52
  then
• 20:53
  I
• 20:53
  wanna
• 20:53
  have
• 20:53
  to
• 20:53
  manage
• 20:53
  more
• 20:54
  than
• 20:54
  one
• 20:54
  website
• 20:54
  or
• 20:55
  sunset
• 20:55
  this
• 20:55
  one
• 20:55
  and
• 20:56
  do
• 20:56
  another
• 20:56
  one.
• 20:56
  And
• 20:56
  so
• 20:57
  I
• 20:57
  would
• 20:57
  rather
• 20:57
  take
• 20:58
  pause
• 20:58
  and
• 20:58
  push
• 20:58
  something
• 20:59
  out
• 20:59
  a
• 20:59
  little
• 20:59
  later,
• 21:00
  maybe
• 21:00
  a
• 21:00
  little
• 21:00
  late
• 21:01
  to
• 21:01
  the
• 21:01
  party
• 21:01
  versus
• 21:02
  having
• 21:03
  to
• 21:03
  do
• 21:04
  the
• 21:04
  extra
• 21:04
  double
• 21:04
  work.
• 21:05
  Absolutely.
• 21:06
  I
• 21:06
  know
• 21:06
  what
• 21:06
  you're
• 21:06
  saying
• 21:07
  in
• 21:07
  terms
• 21:07
  of
• 21:08
  motivation.
• 21:09
  I
• 21:09
  know
• 21:09
  we
• 21:09
  talked
• 21:10
  about
• 21:11
  your
• 21:11
  motivation,
• 21:13
  like
• 21:13
  how
• 21:14
  the
• 21:14
  book
• 21:14
  came
• 21:15
  to
• 21:15
  be.
• 21:16
  Is
• 21:16
  there
• 21:17
  any
• 21:17
  other
• 21:18
  motivation
• 21:18
  that
• 21:19
  you
• 21:19
  can
• 21:19
  think
• 21:19
  of
• 21:20
  that
• 21:21
  inspires
• 21:21
  you
• 21:22
  to.
• 21:22
  You
• 21:23
  said
• 21:23
  you
• 21:23
  went
• 21:23
  out
• 21:23
  for
• 21:23
  your
• 21:24
  walks
• 21:24
  and
• 21:25
  stuff
• 21:25
  like
• 21:25
  that.
• 21:25
  So
• 21:25
  what
• 21:26
  was
• 21:26
  going
• 21:26
  on
• 21:26
  in
• 21:27
  your
• 21:27
  head
• 21:27
  and
• 21:28
  what
• 21:28
  finally
• 21:28
  motivated
• 21:29
  you
• 21:29
  to
• 21:29
  bring
• 21:29
  your
• 21:29
  book
• 21:30
  to
• 21:30
  market?
• 21:31
  Sure.
• 21:31
  It
• 21:32
  was
• 21:32
  so
• 21:32
  interesting
• 21:33
  because
• 21:33
  going
• 21:34
  through
• 21:34
  that
• 21:34
  hard
• 21:35
  season
• 21:35
  in
• 21:35
  our
• 21:35
  lives,
• 21:36
  I
• 21:36
  just
• 21:36
  remember
• 21:36
  we
• 21:37
  again
• 21:37
  live
• 21:37
  in
• 21:37
  the
• 21:37
  beautiful
• 21:37
  area,
• 21:38
  the
• 21:38
  Lehigh
• 21:38
  Valley.
• 21:39
  And
• 21:39
  we
• 21:39
  have
• 21:39
  this
• 21:39
  fish
• 21:40
  hatchery
• 21:40
  there
• 21:40
  that
• 21:41
  has
• 21:41
  just
• 21:41
  fish
• 21:42
  everywhere,
• 21:42
  trees,
• 21:42
  heron,
• 21:43
  eagles,
• 21:43
  all
• 21:43
  these
• 21:44
  beautiful
• 21:44
  birds
• 21:44
  flying
• 21:44
  around.
• 21:45
  It's
• 21:45
  just,
• 21:45
  it's
• 21:45
  very.
• 21:46
  It's
• 21:46
  breathtaking.
• 21:47
  So
• 21:47
  if
• 21:47
  you
• 21:47
  are
• 21:48
  a
• 21:48
  spiritual
• 21:49
  person
• 21:49
  at
• 21:49
  all,
• 21:50
  I
• 21:50
  feel
• 21:50
  like
• 21:50
  going
• 21:50
  and
• 21:51
  sitting
• 21:51
  or
• 21:51
  walking
• 21:52
  in
• 21:52
  those
• 21:52
  spaces
• 21:52
  is
• 21:53
  just
• 21:54
  a
• 21:54
  little
• 21:54
  piece
• 21:54
  of
• 21:54
  heaven
• 21:55
  on
• 21:55
  earth,
• 21:55
  if
• 21:55
  you
• 21:55
  ask
• 21:55
  me.
• 21:56
  I
• 21:56
  remember
• 21:56
  just
• 21:56
  sitting
• 21:57
  on
• 21:57
  a
• 21:57
  bench
• 21:57
  crying
• 21:58
  one
• 21:58
  day
• 21:59
  my
• 21:59
  dog's
• 21:59
  looking
• 21:59
  at
• 21:59
  me
• 22:00
  like
• 22:00
  what?
• 22:00
  Why
• 22:00
  are
• 22:01
  we
• 22:01
  not
• 22:01
  walking
• 22:02
  and
• 22:02
  just
• 22:02
  saying
• 22:02
  God?
• 22:03
  I
• 22:03
  said,
• 22:04
  I
• 22:04
  believe
• 22:04
  in
• 22:04
  a
• 22:04
  prayer.
• 22:05
  I
• 22:05
  said,
• 22:05
  God,
• 22:05
  I
• 22:05
  know
• 22:05
  that
• 22:06
  you
• 22:06
  are
• 22:07
  the
• 22:07
  author
• 22:07
  of
• 22:07
  my
• 22:08
  life
• 22:08
  and
• 22:08
  I
• 22:08
  really
• 22:08
  wish
• 22:09
  you
• 22:09
  would
• 22:09
  just
• 22:10
  give
• 22:10
  me
• 22:10
  a
• 22:11
  sneak
• 22:11
  peek
• 22:11
  of
• 22:11
  the
• 22:11
  next
• 22:12
  chapter
• 22:12
  or
• 22:12
  cliff
• 22:13
  Notes
• 22:13
  and
• 22:13
  this
• 22:13
  was
• 22:13
  before
• 22:14
  writing
• 22:15
  a
• 22:15
  book
• 22:15
  during
• 22:15
  Lent
• 22:16
  season
• 22:16
  came
• 22:16
  on
• 22:16
  my
• 22:17
  heart.
• 22:17
  And
• 22:17
  I
• 22:17
  just
• 22:17
  feel
• 22:18
  like
• 22:18
  it
• 22:18
  was
• 22:18
  some
• 22:18
  of
• 22:18
  those
• 22:19
  early
• 22:19
  prayers
• 22:19
  where
• 22:20
  God
• 22:20
  just
• 22:20
  kept.
• 22:21
  He
• 22:21
  was
• 22:21
  so
• 22:22
  faithful
• 22:22
  and
• 22:22
  with
• 22:22
  me
• 22:22
  during
• 22:23
  that
• 22:23
  really
• 22:23
  hard
• 22:23
  season
• 22:24
  that
• 22:24
  I
• 22:24
  really
• 22:25
  feel
• 22:25
  like
• 22:25
  it
• 22:25
  was
• 22:25
  the
• 22:25
  understanding
• 22:26
  or
• 22:26
  the
• 22:26
  belief
• 22:26
  that
• 22:27
  God
• 22:27
  is
• 22:28
  author
• 22:28
  of
• 22:28
  our
• 22:28
  lives.
• 22:28
  And
• 22:29
  feeling
• 22:29
  like
• 22:30
  he's
• 22:30
  this
• 22:31
  wonderful
• 22:31
  Creator
• 22:32
  gave
• 22:32
  us
• 22:32
  this
• 22:32
  big
• 22:32
  beautiful
• 22:33
  world
• 22:33
  to
• 22:33
  live
• 22:33
  in
• 22:34
  and
• 22:34
  that
• 22:34
  he
• 22:34
  all
• 22:34
  of
• 22:35
  us
• 22:35
  have
• 22:35
  this
• 22:35
  desire
• 22:36
  for
• 22:36
  creativity
• 22:37
  and
• 22:37
  that
• 22:38
  this
• 22:38
  was
• 22:38
  a
• 22:38
  way
• 22:38
  for
• 22:39
  me
• 22:39
  to
• 22:39
  process
• 22:41
  my
• 22:41
  grief
• 22:41
  in
• 22:42
  a
• 22:42
  creative,
• 22:42
  very
• 22:43
  fruitful
• 22:43
  way
• 22:44
  that
• 22:44
  would
• 22:44
  also
• 22:44
  honor,
• 22:45
  honor
• 22:45
  God.
• 22:46
  So
• 22:46
  that
• 22:46
  was
• 22:46
  really
• 22:47
  what
• 22:47
  pushed
• 22:47
  me
• 22:48
  through.
• 22:48
  But
• 22:48
  even
• 22:49
  years
• 22:49
  before
• 22:49
  that,
• 22:49
  becoming
• 22:50
  a
• 22:50
  mom
• 22:50
  was
• 22:50
  really
• 22:51
  hard
• 22:51
  for
• 22:51
  me.
• 22:51
  I
• 22:52
  am
• 22:52
  very
• 22:52
  passionate
• 22:53
  about
• 22:53
  my
• 22:53
  work
• 22:54
  and
• 22:54
  I
• 22:54
  was
• 22:55
  that
• 22:55
  mom
• 22:55
  who
• 22:56
  was
• 22:56
  on
• 22:56
  a
• 22:56
  12
• 22:57
  week
• 22:57
  maternity
• 22:57
  leave
• 22:58
  from
• 22:58
  a
• 22:58
  really
• 22:58
  great
• 22:58
  company
• 22:59
  with
• 22:59
  a
• 22:59
  fabulous
• 22:59
  maternity
• 23:00
  leave
• 23:00
  and
• 23:00
  started
• 23:01
  freelancing
• 23:02
  because
• 23:02
  I
• 23:03
  just,
• 23:03
  I
• 23:03
  knew
• 23:04
  that
• 23:04
  my
• 23:04
  son
• 23:04
  was
• 23:05
  this
• 23:05
  incredible
• 23:05
  gift
• 23:06
  that
• 23:06
  was
• 23:06
  given
• 23:06
  to
• 23:06
  me.
• 23:06
  But
• 23:06
  my
• 23:07
  identity
• 23:07
  couldn't
• 23:07
  just
• 23:08
  be
• 23:08
  being
• 23:08
  a
• 23:09
  mom
• 23:09
  now.
• 23:09
  So
• 23:10
  I
• 23:10
  was
• 23:10
  able
• 23:10
  to
• 23:11
  actually
• 23:11
  take
• 23:11
  a
• 23:12
  tiny
• 23:12
  step
• 23:12
  back
• 23:13
  from
• 23:13
  work
• 23:13
  and
• 23:13
  work
• 23:14
  part
• 23:14
  time
• 23:14
  for
• 23:15
  the
• 23:15
  first
• 23:15
  two
• 23:15
  years
• 23:15
  of
• 23:15
  his
• 23:16
  life,
• 23:16
  which
• 23:16
  I
• 23:16
  was
• 23:16
  really
• 23:16
  grateful
• 23:17
  for.
• 23:17
  It
• 23:17
  gave
• 23:17
  me
• 23:17
  a
• 23:17
  lot
• 23:17
  of
• 23:17
  balance.
• 23:18
  But
• 23:18
  in
• 23:18
  that
• 23:19
  first
• 23:19
  year
• 23:19
  of
• 23:19
  his
• 23:20
  life,
• 23:20
  we
• 23:20
  took
• 23:20
  our
• 23:20
  first
• 23:20
  big
• 23:21
  family
• 23:21
  vacation
• 23:21
  and
• 23:21
  we
• 23:22
  went
• 23:22
  to
• 23:22
  the
• 23:22
  beach.
• 23:22
  And
• 23:23
  I
• 23:23
  remember
• 23:23
  waking
• 23:23
  up
• 23:23
  early
• 23:24
  one
• 23:24
  morning
• 23:24
  to
• 23:24
  take
• 23:24
  my
• 23:25
  son.
• 23:25
  We
• 23:25
  were
• 23:25
  strolling
• 23:26
  and
• 23:26
  going
• 23:26
  on
• 23:26
  the
• 23:26
  boardwalk
• 23:27
  and
• 23:27
  I
• 23:27
  just
• 23:27
  felt
• 23:28
  this
• 23:28
  great
• 23:28
  sense
• 23:28
  of
• 23:29
  overwhelm,
• 23:30
  of
• 23:30
  I'm
• 23:31
  on
• 23:31
  vacation,
• 23:32
  I
• 23:32
  should
• 23:32
  be
• 23:32
  having
• 23:32
  a
• 23:32
  great
• 23:33
  time
• 23:33
  and
• 23:33
  I'm
• 23:33
  feeling
• 23:34
  overwhelmed
• 23:34
  and
• 23:34
  stressed
• 23:35
  and
• 23:35
  I
• 23:35
  just
• 23:35
  felt
• 23:36
  this
• 23:36
  little
• 23:36
  like
• 23:36
  whisper
• 23:37
  in
• 23:37
  my
• 23:37
  head
• 23:37
  of
• 23:38
  just
• 23:38
  focus
• 23:39
  on
• 23:39
  the
• 23:39
  eternal.
• 23:40
  And
• 23:40
  I'm
• 23:41
  like,
• 23:41
  what
• 23:42
  did
• 23:42
  that
• 23:42
  mean?
• 23:42
  But
• 23:43
  what
• 23:43
  it's
• 23:43
  really
• 23:44
  how
• 23:44
  it's
• 23:44
  really
• 23:44
  played
• 23:44
  out
• 23:45
  in
• 23:45
  my
• 23:45
  life.
• 23:45
  And
• 23:45
  again
• 23:45
  I
• 23:45
  felt
• 23:46
  like
• 23:46
  that
• 23:46
  was
• 23:46
  God
• 23:47
  and
• 23:47
  his
• 23:48
  trying
• 23:48
  to
• 23:48
  get
• 23:49
  through
• 23:49
  to
• 23:49
  me
• 23:49
  is
• 23:49
  that
• 23:50
  there
• 23:50
  is
• 23:50
  a
• 23:50
  whole
• 23:50
  world
• 23:51
  out
• 23:51
  there
• 23:51
  that's
• 23:51
  crazy.
• 23:52
  And
• 23:52
  we
• 23:52
  can
• 23:52
  all
• 23:52
  get
• 23:53
  caught
• 23:53
  up
• 23:53
  in
• 23:53
  the
• 23:53
  day
• 23:54
  to
• 23:54
  day
• 23:54
  and
• 23:54
  what's
• 23:54
  going
• 23:55
  on.
• 23:55
  But
• 23:55
  ultimately
• 23:56
  there's
• 23:56
  this
• 23:56
  bigger
• 23:57
  picture.
• 23:57
  And
• 23:57
  if
• 23:57
  you
• 23:58
  can
• 23:58
  take
• 23:58
  a
• 23:58
  step
• 23:58
  back
• 23:59
  and
• 23:59
  really
• 24:00
  see
• 24:00
  what
• 24:00
  that
• 24:00
  bigger
• 24:00
  picture
• 24:01
  is,
• 24:01
  I
• 24:01
  realized
• 24:02
  that
• 24:02
  there
• 24:02
  was
• 24:02
  this
• 24:02
  opportunity
• 24:03
  to
• 24:03
  impact
• 24:03
  something
• 24:04
  outside
• 24:04
  of
• 24:04
  my
• 24:04
  little
• 24:05
  stress
• 24:05
  ball
• 24:05
  of
• 24:05
  a
• 24:05
  life
• 24:06
  that
• 24:06
  day.
• 24:06
  And
• 24:07
  so
• 24:07
  for
• 24:07
  me,
• 24:07
  I've
• 24:07
  really
• 24:08
  seen
• 24:08
  that
• 24:08
  manifest
• 24:09
  and
• 24:09
  that
• 24:09
  I
• 24:09
  feel
• 24:09
  like
• 24:10
  children
• 24:10
  and
• 24:10
  really
• 24:11
  pouring
• 24:11
  into
• 24:11
  the
• 24:11
  lives
• 24:11
  of
• 24:12
  children
• 24:12
  is
• 24:12
  where
• 24:12
  I'm
• 24:13
  called
• 24:13
  to
• 24:13
  live
• 24:13
  my
• 24:13
  life.
• 24:14
  And
• 24:14
  so
• 24:14
  I've
• 24:15
  made
• 24:15
  some
• 24:15
  really
• 24:15
  intentional
• 24:16
  choices.
• 24:16
  Like
• 24:17
  I
• 24:17
  had
• 24:18
  lots
• 24:18
  of
• 24:18
  opportunities
• 24:18
  in
• 24:18
  front
• 24:19
  of
• 24:19
  me
• 24:19
  to
• 24:19
  do
• 24:19
  things,
• 24:19
  but
• 24:19
  my
• 24:20
  priorities
• 24:21
  teach
• 24:21
  Sunday
• 24:21
  School,
• 24:22
  I
• 24:22
  coach
• 24:22
  kids,
• 24:23
  basketball.
• 24:23
  You
• 24:24
  know,
• 24:24
  we're
• 24:24
  being
• 24:24
  called,
• 24:24
  I
• 24:25
  think,
• 24:25
  as
• 24:25
  foster
• 24:26
  parents,
• 24:26
  foster
• 24:26
  adoptive
• 24:27
  parents.
• 24:27
  And
• 24:27
  so
• 24:28
  I
• 24:28
  really
• 24:28
  tried
• 24:28
  to
• 24:29
  build
• 24:29
  my
• 24:29
  life
• 24:29
  around
• 24:30
  ways
• 24:30
  where
• 24:31
  I
• 24:31
  can
• 24:31
  at
• 24:31
  least
• 24:31
  impact
• 24:32
  and
• 24:32
  have
• 24:32
  a
• 24:32
  legacy
• 24:33
  that's
• 24:33
  going
• 24:33
  to
• 24:33
  live
• 24:33
  beyond
• 24:34
  me,
• 24:34
  and
• 24:34
  that's
• 24:34
  in
• 24:34
  the
• 24:34
  next
• 24:35
  generation
• 24:35
  of
• 24:35
  kids.
• 24:36
  And
• 24:36
  so
• 24:36
  I
• 24:36
  think
• 24:36
  that
• 24:37
  through
• 24:37
  everything,
• 24:38
  through
• 24:38
  those
• 24:38
  early
• 24:39
  conversations
• 24:39
  and
• 24:40
  prayers
• 24:40
  of
• 24:41
  in
• 24:41
  the
• 24:41
  few
• 24:41
  weeks
• 24:42
  after
• 24:42
  my
• 24:42
  miscarriage,
• 24:43
  I
• 24:43
  feel
• 24:43
  like
• 24:43
  all
• 24:43
  of
• 24:43
  that
• 24:44
  has
• 24:44
  just
• 24:44
  pushed
• 24:45
  me
• 24:45
  towards
• 24:45
  writing
• 24:46
  children's
• 24:46
  books.
• 24:47
  So
• 24:47
  I'm
• 24:47
  glad
• 24:47
  I
• 24:47
  was
• 24:48
  able
• 24:48
  to
• 24:48
  get
• 24:48
  my
• 24:48
  first
• 24:48
  one
• 24:49
  out.
• 24:49
  But
• 24:49
  I
• 24:49
  really
• 24:49
  feel
• 24:49
  like
• 24:50
  I
• 24:50
  got
• 24:50
  more
• 24:51
  in
• 24:51
  the
• 24:51
  tank
• 24:51
  because
• 24:52
  it's
• 24:52
  just
• 24:53
  very
• 24:53
  worthy
• 24:54
  mission.
• 24:54
  And
• 24:54
  I
• 24:54
  just
• 24:54
  love
• 24:55
  what
• 24:55
  I
• 24:56
  feel
• 24:56
  like
• 24:56
  I'm
• 24:56
  called
• 24:56
  to
• 24:56
  do
• 24:56
  in
• 24:57
  my
• 24:57
  life.
• 24:57
  Tell
• 24:58
  us
• 24:58
  about
• 24:59
  your
• 24:59
  character
• 25:00
  development,
• 25:01
  because
• 25:01
  I
• 25:01
  know
• 25:01
  you
• 25:01
  talked
• 25:02
  about
• 25:02
  that
• 25:02
  when
• 25:02
  we
• 25:03
  first
• 25:03
  started
• 25:03
  this
• 25:03
  conversation,
• 25:04
  but
• 25:04
  go
• 25:05
  a
• 25:05
  little
• 25:05
  deeper
• 25:06
  into
• 25:06
  the
• 25:06
  character
• 25:07
  development.
• 25:08
  Yeah.
• 25:08
  So
• 25:08
  I
• 25:08
  laugh
• 25:09
  because
• 25:09
  I
• 25:09
  think
• 25:10
  that's
• 25:10
  an
• 25:10
  area
• 25:10
  where
• 25:11
  again,
• 25:11
  in
• 25:11
  picture
• 25:11
  books,
• 25:12
  sometimes
• 25:12
  you
• 25:13
  can
• 25:13
  get
• 25:13
  really
• 25:13
  deep
• 25:13
  a
• 25:14
  character
• 25:14
  development
• 25:14
  and
• 25:15
  sometimes
• 25:16
  it's
• 25:16
  a
• 25:16
  little
• 25:16
  bit
• 25:17
  more
• 25:17
  surfacey.
• 25:18
  So
• 25:18
  I
• 25:18
  really
• 25:18
  have
• 25:19
  Mama
• 25:19
  Goose
• 25:19
  and
• 25:19
  Son
• 25:20
  Goose.
• 25:20
  They
• 25:20
  don't
• 25:20
  really
• 25:20
  even
• 25:21
  have
• 25:21
  official
• 25:21
  names
• 25:22
  in
• 25:22
  the
• 25:22
  book
• 25:22
  when
• 25:22
  they're
• 25:22
  talking
• 25:23
  to
• 25:23
  each
• 25:23
  other,
• 25:23
  but
• 25:23
  it's.
• 25:23
  It's
• 25:24
  a
• 25:24
  mother
• 25:24
  and
• 25:24
  a
• 25:24
  son.
• 25:25
  And
• 25:25
  the
• 25:25
  mom
• 25:25
  has
• 25:26
  all
• 25:26
  these
• 25:26
  nicknames
• 25:26
  for
• 25:26
  her
• 25:27
  son,
• 25:27
  which
• 25:27
  are
• 25:27
  nicknames
• 25:28
  I
• 25:28
  have
• 25:28
  for
• 25:28
  my
• 25:28
  son.
• 25:29
  So
• 25:29
  he's
• 25:29
  just
• 25:29
  going
• 25:29
  to
• 25:29
  eye
• 25:30
  roll
• 25:30
  probably
• 25:30
  as
• 25:30
  he
• 25:31
  gets
• 25:31
  into
• 25:31
  his
• 25:31
  teenage
• 25:32
  years.
• 25:32
  Then
• 25:32
  I
• 25:32
  call
• 25:32
  him
• 25:33
  Sweet
• 25:33
  Boy
• 25:33
  or
• 25:33
  Handsome
• 25:34
  and
• 25:34
  things
• 25:34
  like
• 25:35
  that.
• 25:35
  But
• 25:35
  it's
• 25:36
  just
• 25:36
  really
• 25:36
  a
• 25:36
  tender
• 25:36
  relationship
• 25:37
  where
• 25:37
  they
• 25:37
  have
• 25:38
  just
• 25:38
  a
• 25:38
  ton
• 25:38
  of
• 25:38
  conversations.
• 25:40
  And
• 25:40
  so
• 25:40
  I
• 25:40
  really
• 25:40
  wanted
• 25:41
  it
• 25:41
  to
• 25:41
  just.
• 25:41
  There
• 25:41
  is
• 25:41
  a
• 25:42
  scene
• 25:42
  in
• 25:42
  the
• 25:42
  book,
• 25:42
  it's
• 25:42
  the
• 25:42
  mom
• 25:43
  sitting
• 25:43
  at
• 25:43
  the
• 25:43
  table,
• 25:43
  like
• 25:43
  drink
• 25:44
  coffee
• 25:44
  because
• 25:44
  I
• 25:44
  feel
• 25:45
  like
• 25:45
  that's
• 25:45
  always
• 25:45
  me
• 25:45
  just
• 25:46
  on
• 25:46
  set
• 25:46
  in
• 25:46
  my
• 25:46
  coffee
• 25:47
  the
• 25:47
  night
• 25:47
  before
• 25:47
  so
• 25:47
  I
• 25:47
  can
• 25:48
  wake
• 25:48
  up
• 25:48
  and
• 25:48
  face
• 25:48
  the
• 25:49
  day.
• 25:49
  Because
• 25:49
  I
• 25:49
  have
• 25:49
  this
• 25:49
  very.
• 25:50
  I
• 25:50
  have
• 25:50
  an
• 25:51
  early
• 25:51
  rise
• 25:51
  or
• 25:51
  energetic
• 25:52
  son.
• 25:52
  And
• 25:53
  so
• 25:53
  this
• 25:53
  Goose
• 25:53
  is
• 25:54
  my
• 25:54
  son
• 25:54
  100%,
• 25:55
  where
• 25:55
  he
• 25:56
  just.
• 25:56
  He
• 25:56
  has
• 25:56
  a
• 25:56
  lot
• 25:57
  of
• 25:57
  questions.
• 25:57
  He's
• 25:57
  a
• 25:58
  little
• 25:58
  bit
• 25:58
  of
• 25:58
  a
• 25:58
  hot
• 25:58
  mess,
• 25:59
  but
• 25:59
  he
• 25:59
  had
• 25:59
  just
• 26:00
  a
• 26:00
  very
• 26:00
  patient
• 26:00
  mom
• 26:01
  who's
• 26:01
  happy
• 26:01
  to
• 26:01
  help
• 26:02
  explain
• 26:02
  things
• 26:02
  and
• 26:02
  help
• 26:03
  him
• 26:03
  relate
• 26:03
  what's
• 26:03
  going
• 26:04
  on.
• 26:04
  Right.
• 26:04
  And
• 26:05
  your
• 26:05
  son,
• 26:06
  when
• 26:06
  you
• 26:06
  develop
• 26:07
  the
• 26:07
  characters.
• 26:08
  Yes.
• 26:09
  That's
• 26:09
  how
• 26:09
  you
• 26:09
  visualized
• 26:10
  it?
• 26:10
  Yeah,
• 26:11
  it
• 26:11
  very
• 26:11
  much
• 26:11
  us
• 26:12
  because
• 26:12
  we
• 26:12
  have
• 26:13
  big
• 26:13
  conversations.
• 26:14
  My.
• 26:14
  When
• 26:14
  I
• 26:15
  had
• 26:15
  my
• 26:15
  son,
• 26:15
  my
• 26:15
  husband
• 26:16
  was
• 26:16
  on
• 26:16
  night
• 26:16
  shift.
• 26:16
  And
• 26:17
  so
• 26:17
  I
• 26:17
  had
• 26:17
  a
• 26:17
  lot
• 26:18
  of
• 26:18
  alone
• 26:18
  time
• 26:18
  with
• 26:18
  him,
• 26:18
  especially
• 26:19
  overnight
• 26:19
  during
• 26:20
  those
• 26:20
  meetings.
• 26:20
  And
• 26:20
  honestly,
• 26:21
  what
• 26:21
  I
• 26:21
  would
• 26:21
  do
• 26:22
  when
• 26:22
  he
• 26:22
  would
• 26:22
  wake
• 26:23
  up
• 26:23
  is
• 26:23
  I
• 26:23
  would
• 26:23
  Just
• 26:23
  sit
• 26:24
  and
• 26:24
  read
• 26:24
  children's
• 26:24
  books
• 26:25
  to
• 26:25
  him.
• 26:25
  And
• 26:25
  so
• 26:26
  we
• 26:26
  just
• 26:26
  have
• 26:26
  always
• 26:27
  had
• 26:27
  a
• 26:27
  relationship
• 26:27
  that
• 26:28
  revolved
• 26:28
  around
• 26:28
  reading
• 26:29
  and
• 26:29
  conversation.
• 26:30
  And
• 26:30
  so
• 26:31
  that's
• 26:31
  very
• 26:31
  much
• 26:32
  reflected
• 26:32
  in
• 26:32
  the
• 26:32
  character
• 26:33
  development.
• 26:33
  So
• 26:33
  maybe
• 26:34
  I
• 26:34
  didn't
• 26:34
  develop
• 26:35
  the
• 26:35
  characters
• 26:35
  more
• 26:35
  because
• 26:36
  they
• 26:36
  are
• 26:36
  us.
• 26:37
  And
• 26:37
  so
• 26:37
  they're
• 26:37
  really
• 26:37
  just
• 26:38
  an
• 26:38
  extension
• 26:39
  of
• 26:39
  us
• 26:39
  now
• 26:39
  in
• 26:39
  book
• 26:39
  form.
• 26:40
  So
• 26:41
  tell
• 26:41
  us
• 26:41
  a
• 26:41
  little
• 26:41
  bit
• 26:41
  about
• 26:42
  the
• 26:42
  theme
• 26:42
  of
• 26:42
  the
• 26:43
  book
• 26:43
  and
• 26:43
  a
• 26:43
  few
• 26:43
  words.
• 26:44
  Sure.
• 26:44
  Yeah.
• 26:45
  So
• 26:45
  I'd
• 26:45
  say
• 26:45
  the
• 26:45
  theme.
• 26:46
  One
• 26:46
  thing
• 26:46
  that
• 26:46
  was
• 26:46
  very
• 26:47
  important
• 26:47
  to
• 26:47
  me
• 26:47
  is
• 26:47
  that
• 26:47
  my
• 26:48
  books
• 26:48
  would
• 26:48
  rhyme.
• 26:48
  And
• 26:49
  so
• 26:49
  this
• 26:49
  book
• 26:50
  and
• 26:50
  at
• 26:50
  least
• 26:50
  my
• 26:50
  next
• 26:51
  one
• 26:51
  are
• 26:51
  going
• 26:51
  to
• 26:51
  rhyme.
• 26:52
  I
• 26:52
  love
• 26:52
  poetry
• 26:53
  and
• 26:53
  I
• 26:53
  love
• 26:54
  when
• 26:54
  books
• 26:54
  can
• 26:54
  be
• 26:55
  sing
• 26:55
  songy,
• 26:55
  especially
• 26:56
  at
• 26:56
  bedtime,
• 26:56
  because
• 26:57
  it's
• 26:57
  a
• 26:57
  very
• 26:57
  wonderful
• 26:58
  way
• 26:58
  to
• 26:58
  lull
• 26:59
  children
• 26:59
  into
• 26:59
  sleep.
• 27:00
  So
• 27:00
  these
• 27:01
  hope
• 27:01
  is
• 27:01
  a
• 27:01
  blanket.
• 27:01
  And
• 27:01
  my
• 27:02
  next
• 27:02
  book
• 27:02
  for
• 27:02
  sure
• 27:02
  are
• 27:03
  written
• 27:03
  that
• 27:03
  way.
• 27:04
  So
• 27:04
  really,
• 27:04
  again,
• 27:05
  quick
• 27:05
  summary
• 27:05
  of
• 27:05
  the
• 27:05
  story
• 27:06
  is
• 27:06
  just
• 27:06
  that
• 27:06
  it's
• 27:07
  bedtime,
• 27:07
  our
• 27:07
  blankets
• 27:08
  lost,
• 27:08
  and
• 27:09
  we
• 27:09
  are
• 27:09
  on
• 27:09
  a
• 27:10
  mission
• 27:10
  to
• 27:10
  find
• 27:10
  it.
• 27:11
  So
• 27:11
  again,
• 27:11
  it's
• 27:12
  a
• 27:12
  travel
• 27:12
  throughout
• 27:12
  the
• 27:13
  house.
• 27:13
  I
• 27:13
  think
• 27:13
  they
• 27:13
  go
• 27:13
  to
• 27:13
  their
• 27:14
  den,
• 27:14
  they
• 27:15
  go
• 27:15
  to
• 27:15
  the
• 27:15
  laundry
• 27:15
  room,
• 27:16
  they
• 27:16
  go
• 27:16
  outside
• 27:17
  to
• 27:17
  look
• 27:17
  for
• 27:17
  the
• 27:17
  blanket.
• 27:18
  And
• 27:18
  they're
• 27:18
  just
• 27:18
  talking
• 27:18
  about
• 27:19
  how
• 27:19
  the
• 27:20
  blanket
• 27:20
  is
• 27:21
  used
• 27:21
  as
• 27:21
  a
• 27:21
  picnic
• 27:22
  blanket.
• 27:22
  It
• 27:22
  gets
• 27:23
  really
• 27:23
  clean
• 27:23
  in
• 27:23
  the
• 27:23
  wash
• 27:23
  and
• 27:24
  it's
• 27:24
  all
• 27:24
  warm
• 27:24
  and
• 27:24
  fuzzy
• 27:25
  and
• 27:25
  you
• 27:25
  feel
• 27:25
  like
• 27:26
  it's
• 27:26
  fit
• 27:26
  for
• 27:26
  a
• 27:27
  queen.
• 27:27
  It's
• 27:27
  a
• 27:27
  hiding
• 27:28
  place
• 27:28
  for
• 27:28
  hide
• 27:28
  and
• 27:29
  seek
• 27:29
  and
• 27:29
  does
• 27:29
  a
• 27:29
  great
• 27:29
  job
• 27:30
  with
• 27:30
  that.
• 27:30
  And
• 27:30
  so
• 27:30
  it's
• 27:30
  really
• 27:31
  just
• 27:31
  all
• 27:31
  these
• 27:31
  fun
• 27:32
  ways
• 27:32
  because
• 27:32
  kids,
• 27:33
  my
• 27:33
  son
• 27:33
  doesn't
• 27:34
  know.
• 27:34
  The
• 27:34
  other
• 27:34
  night
• 27:34
  he
• 27:34
  built
• 27:35
  a
• 27:35
  blanket
• 27:35
  for
• 27:35
  it.
• 27:35
  And
• 27:35
  again,
• 27:35
  he's
• 27:36
  old,
• 27:36
  so
• 27:37
  he's
• 27:37
  still
• 27:37
  very
• 27:37
  much
• 27:37
  into
• 27:38
  blankets
• 27:38
  and
• 27:38
  the
• 27:38
  comfort
• 27:39
  that
• 27:39
  they
• 27:39
  bring
• 27:39
  and
• 27:40
  the
• 27:40
  play
• 27:40
  pattern.
• 27:41
  So
• 27:41
  really
• 27:41
  that's
• 27:42
  just.
• 27:42
  It's
• 27:42
  talking
• 27:42
  about
• 27:43
  all
• 27:43
  the
• 27:43
  ways
• 27:43
  that
• 27:43
  blankets
• 27:44
  are
• 27:44
  special
• 27:45
  and
• 27:45
  that
• 27:45
  we
• 27:45
  play
• 27:45
  with
• 27:45
  them
• 27:46
  and
• 27:46
  use
• 27:46
  them.
• 27:46
  But
• 27:46
  again,
• 27:47
  it
• 27:47
  just
• 27:47
  the.
• 27:48
  It's
• 27:48
  mostly
• 27:48
  the
• 27:49
  mother's
• 27:49
  words
• 27:49
  that
• 27:50
  become
• 27:50
  sing
• 27:50
  song
• 27:51
  you
• 27:51
  were
• 27:51
  just
• 27:51
  talking
• 27:51
  about
• 27:52
  as
• 27:52
  she's
• 27:52
  doing
• 27:52
  that.
• 27:52
  It's
• 27:53
  something
• 27:53
  that's
• 27:53
  such
• 27:53
  an
• 27:53
  easy
• 27:54
  surface
• 27:54
  thing,
• 27:54
  but
• 27:55
  goes
• 27:55
  a
• 27:55
  little
• 27:55
  bit
• 27:56
  deeper
• 27:56
  in
• 27:56
  talking
• 27:56
  about
• 27:57
  how
• 27:57
  that
• 27:58
  blanket
• 27:58
  really
• 27:58
  is
• 27:59
  painful.
• 27:59
  The
• 27:59
  central.
• 28:00
  What
• 28:00
  would
• 28:01
  be
• 28:01
  the
• 28:01
  central
• 28:02
  lesson
• 28:02
  or
• 28:02
  teaching
• 28:03
  from
• 28:03
  that?
• 28:04
  Yeah,
• 28:04
  I
• 28:04
  think
• 28:04
  the
• 28:04
  central
• 28:05
  lesson
• 28:05
  would
• 28:05
  be
• 28:05
  is
• 28:05
  that
• 28:06
  in
• 28:06
  the
• 28:06
  wake
• 28:07
  of
• 28:07
  loss,
• 28:07
  there's
• 28:07
  hope
• 28:08
  on
• 28:08
  the
• 28:08
  other
• 28:08
  side
• 28:08
  of
• 28:09
  a
• 28:09
  hard
• 28:09
  situation.
• 28:10
  Okay,
• 28:11
  now
• 28:11
  I'm
• 28:11
  curious.
• 28:12
  I
• 28:13
  know
• 28:13
  you
• 28:13
  said
• 28:13
  you've
• 28:13
  got
• 28:14
  a
• 28:14
  second
• 28:14
  book
• 28:15
  in
• 28:15
  the
• 28:16
  series.
• 28:17
  Your
• 28:17
  first
• 28:17
  book
• 28:18
  ends
• 28:18
  with
• 28:18
  a
• 28:18
  little
• 28:18
  bit
• 28:19
  of
• 28:19
  a
• 28:19
  teaser
• 28:20
  or
• 28:20
  a
• 28:20
  hook
• 28:21
  to
• 28:21
  the
• 28:21
  next
• 28:21
  one.
• 28:22
  Tell
• 28:23
  us
• 28:23
  a
• 28:23
  little
• 28:23
  bit
• 28:23
  about
• 28:24
  your
• 28:24
  writing
• 28:25
  process.
• 28:25
  So
• 28:26
  let
• 28:26
  us
• 28:27
  Know,
• 28:27
  how
• 28:27
  does
• 28:27
  your
• 28:28
  brain
• 28:28
  work?
• 28:29
  How
• 28:29
  do
• 28:29
  you
• 28:29
  think
• 28:30
  about
• 28:30
  all
• 28:30
  this
• 28:31
  when
• 28:31
  you're
• 28:32
  thinking?
• 28:32
  Okay.
• 28:32
  I'm
• 28:33
  now
• 28:33
  working
• 28:33
  on
• 28:33
  my
• 28:33
  second
• 28:34
  book.
• 28:35
  Take
• 28:35
  us
• 28:35
  through
• 28:35
  the
• 28:35
  process.
• 28:36
  I
• 28:37
  don't
• 28:37
  know
• 28:37
  that
• 28:37
  I
• 28:37
  really
• 28:37
  want
• 28:38
  anyone
• 28:38
  to
• 28:38
  see
• 28:38
  inside
• 28:39
  my
• 28:39
  brain
• 28:39
  because
• 28:40
  it's
• 28:40
  crazy.
• 28:41
  So
• 28:41
  I'll
• 28:41
  let
• 28:42
  you
• 28:42
  behind
• 28:42
  the
• 28:42
  curtain.
• 28:43
  Otherwise
• 28:43
  this
• 28:43
  might
• 28:43
  turn
• 28:44
  into
• 28:44
  a
• 28:44
  horror
• 28:44
  podcast.
• 28:45
  Yeah.
• 28:46
  So
• 28:46
  with
• 28:46
  this
• 28:46
  story,
• 28:47
  it's
• 28:48
  funny
• 28:48
  because
• 28:48
  I
• 28:49
  had
• 28:49
  gone
• 28:49
  through
• 28:49
  a
• 28:50
  couple
• 28:50
  different
• 28:50
  things
• 28:50
  and
• 28:50
  I
• 28:50
  knew
• 28:51
  I
• 28:51
  wanted
• 28:51
  to
• 28:51
  write
• 28:51
  about
• 28:51
  Hope,
• 28:52
  but
• 28:52
  the
• 28:53
  story
• 28:53
  really
• 28:54
  came
• 28:54
  together
• 28:55
  like
• 28:55
  that.
• 28:55
  There
• 28:55
  at
• 28:56
  the
• 28:56
  end
• 28:56
  where
• 28:57
  I
• 28:57
  was,
• 28:57
  we
• 28:58
  have
• 28:58
  a
• 28:58
  cabin,
• 28:59
  a
• 28:59
  little
• 28:59
  property
• 28:59
  in
• 28:59
  the
• 29:00
  Poconos
• 29:00
  of
• 29:00
  Pennsylvania,
• 29:01
  which
• 29:01
  is
• 29:01
  this
• 29:01
  really
• 29:01
  cozy,
• 29:02
  beautiful
• 29:02
  place
• 29:02
  with
• 29:03
  mountains
• 29:03
  and
• 29:03
  lakes.
• 29:04
  And
• 29:04
  I
• 29:04
  was
• 29:05
  really.
• 29:05
  My
• 29:05
  son
• 29:05
  called
• 29:06
  me
• 29:06
  into
• 29:06
  his
• 29:06
  room
• 29:06
  in
• 29:06
  the
• 29:06
  middle
• 29:07
  of
• 29:07
  the
• 29:07
  night
• 29:07
  and
• 29:07
  asked
• 29:08
  me
• 29:08
  to
• 29:08
  snuggle
• 29:08
  with
• 29:08
  him,
• 29:09
  and
• 29:09
  I
• 29:09
  did.
• 29:09
  I
• 29:09
  woke
• 29:09
  up
• 29:09
  there
• 29:10
  the
• 29:10
  next
• 29:10
  day,
• 29:10
  and
• 29:10
  it
• 29:10
  was
• 29:10
  that,
• 29:11
  like,
• 29:11
  calm,
• 29:11
  soothing
• 29:12
  place
• 29:12
  of
• 29:12
  being,
• 29:12
  like,
• 29:13
  under
• 29:13
  a
• 29:13
  blanket
• 29:13
  that.
• 29:14
  Ah.
• 29:14
  And
• 29:15
  so
• 29:15
  I
• 29:15
  really
• 29:15
  just
• 29:16
  woke
• 29:16
  up
• 29:16
  that
• 29:16
  day
• 29:16
  and
• 29:17
  had
• 29:17
  all
• 29:18
  these
• 29:18
  ideas
• 29:18
  flowing
• 29:19
  and
• 29:19
  little
• 29:19
  notes
• 29:19
  written.
• 29:20
  But
• 29:20
  that's
• 29:20
  really
• 29:20
  like.
• 29:21
  The
• 29:21
  story
• 29:21
  came
• 29:21
  together
• 29:22
  super
• 29:22
  fast
• 29:22
  from
• 29:23
  just
• 29:23
  like
• 29:23
  an
• 29:24
  aha
• 29:24
  moment
• 29:24
  that
• 29:24
  I
• 29:25
  had
• 29:25
  inspired
• 29:25
  by
• 29:26
  just
• 29:26
  everyday
• 29:26
  life
• 29:26
  as
• 29:26
  a
• 29:27
  mom.
• 29:27
  Because
• 29:27
  we've
• 29:27
  all
• 29:27
  been
• 29:27
  there
• 29:28
  where
• 29:28
  we
• 29:28
  got
• 29:28
  in
• 29:28
  the
• 29:28
  middle
• 29:28
  of
• 29:28
  the
• 29:28
  night.
• 29:29
  Mom.
• 29:30
  And
• 29:30
  but
• 29:30
  for
• 29:31
  this
• 29:31
  next
• 29:31
  one,
• 29:31
  because
• 29:32
  I
• 29:32
  know
• 29:32
  these
• 29:32
  characters
• 29:33
  a
• 29:33
  little
• 29:33
  bit
• 29:33
  now
• 29:34
  and
• 29:34
  I
• 29:34
  know
• 29:34
  my
• 29:35
  topic
• 29:35
  and
• 29:35
  kind
• 29:36
  of
• 29:36
  the
• 29:36
  topic
• 29:36
  I
• 29:36
  want
• 29:36
  to
• 29:36
  teach
• 29:37
  about.
• 29:37
  Again,
• 29:37
  where
• 29:37
  my
• 29:37
  first
• 29:38
  book
• 29:38
  was
• 29:38
  about
• 29:38
  Hope,
• 29:39
  I'm
• 29:39
  going
• 29:39
  same
• 29:40
  thing
• 29:40
  where
• 29:40
  I'm
• 29:40
  using
• 29:40
  a
• 29:40
  metaphor.
• 29:41
  So
• 29:41
  it's
• 29:42
  a
• 29:42
  different
• 29:42
  concept,
• 29:43
  but
• 29:43
  using
• 29:43
  another
• 29:44
  physical,
• 29:44
  tangible
• 29:45
  item
• 29:45
  that
• 29:46
  all
• 29:46
  kids
• 29:46
  will
• 29:46
  be
• 29:47
  very
• 29:47
  familiar
• 29:47
  with.
• 29:48
  And
• 29:48
  again,
• 29:48
  just.
• 29:48
  And
• 29:48
  showing
• 29:49
  those
• 29:49
  correlations.
• 29:50
  So
• 29:50
  the
• 29:50
  second
• 29:50
  one,
• 29:51
  I
• 29:51
  think
• 29:51
  is
• 29:51
  a
• 29:51
  lot
• 29:52
  will
• 29:52
  be
• 29:52
  a
• 29:52
  lot
• 29:52
  easier.
• 29:53
  I
• 29:53
  think
• 29:53
  the
• 29:53
  biggest
• 29:53
  thing
• 29:54
  was
• 29:54
  coming
• 29:54
  up
• 29:54
  with
• 29:54
  kind
• 29:54
  of
• 29:55
  the
• 29:55
  storyline,
• 29:55
  and
• 29:55
  I
• 29:55
  haven't
• 29:56
  quite
• 29:56
  perfected
• 29:56
  it
• 29:57
  yet,
• 29:57
  but
• 29:57
  I'm
• 29:57
  about
• 29:58
  70%
• 29:59
  of
• 29:59
  the
• 29:59
  way
• 29:59
  there
• 29:59
  for
• 30:00
  what
• 30:00
  I
• 30:00
  want
• 30:00
  to
• 30:00
  happen.
• 30:00
  And
• 30:01
  now
• 30:01
  and
• 30:01
  for
• 30:01
  coming
• 30:01
  up
• 30:02
  with
• 30:02
  kind
• 30:02
  of
• 30:02
  the
• 30:02
  little
• 30:02
  poems
• 30:03
  that
• 30:03
  describe,
• 30:04
  again,
• 30:04
  building
• 30:05
  the
• 30:05
  metaphor
• 30:05
  and
• 30:05
  explaining
• 30:06
  the
• 30:06
  symbolism
• 30:07
  again.
• 30:07
  When
• 30:08
  I
• 30:08
  was
• 30:08
  going
• 30:08
  through
• 30:08
  my
• 30:08
  first
• 30:09
  hope
• 30:09
  with
• 30:09
  my
• 30:10
  word
• 30:10
  of
• 30:10
  the
• 30:10
  year
• 30:10
  that
• 30:10
  year.
• 30:10
  And
• 30:11
  so
• 30:11
  I
• 30:11
  was
• 30:11
  actually
• 30:11
  doing
• 30:12
  a
• 30:12
  lot
• 30:12
  of
• 30:12
  biblical
• 30:13
  research.
• 30:13
  I
• 30:13
  laugh
• 30:13
  because
• 30:13
  I
• 30:14
  have
• 30:14
  my
• 30:14
  laptop
• 30:14
  popped
• 30:15
  up
• 30:15
  on
• 30:15
  a
• 30:15
  book,
• 30:15
  but
• 30:15
  it's
• 30:16
  a
• 30:16
  Strong's
• 30:16
  Concordance,
• 30:17
  which
• 30:17
  is
• 30:18
  a
• 30:18
  dictionary
• 30:19
  for
• 30:19
  the
• 30:19
  Bible.
• 30:19
  And
• 30:20
  so
• 30:20
  basically
• 30:20
  it's.
• 30:20
  Whenever
• 30:21
  there's
• 30:21
  a
• 30:21
  word
• 30:21
  in
• 30:21
  the
• 30:21
  Bible,
• 30:22
  it
• 30:22
  goes
• 30:23
  through
• 30:23
  the
• 30:23
  Greek
• 30:23
  and
• 30:23
  the
• 30:23
  Hebrew
• 30:24
  translations
• 30:24
  of
• 30:25
  it.
• 30:25
  And
• 30:25
  so
• 30:25
  really,
• 30:26
  a
• 30:26
  lot
• 30:26
  of
• 30:26
  my
• 30:26
  research
• 30:27
  for
• 30:27
  my
• 30:27
  first
• 30:27
  book
• 30:28
  just
• 30:28
  came
• 30:28
  through
• 30:28
  this
• 30:29
  Digging
• 30:29
  into
• 30:30
  my
• 30:30
  word
• 30:30
  of
• 30:30
  the
• 30:30
  year
• 30:30
  and
• 30:31
  what
• 30:31
  it
• 30:31
  was
• 30:31
  and
• 30:31
  what
• 30:32
  the
• 30:32
  Bible
• 30:32
  said
• 30:32
  about
• 30:32
  hope.
• 30:33
  And
• 30:33
  so
• 30:33
  a
• 30:33
  lot
• 30:33
  of
• 30:33
  those
• 30:34
  symbols
• 30:34
  are
• 30:35
  actually
• 30:35
  inspired
• 30:36
  by
• 30:36
  the
• 30:36
  Bible,
• 30:36
  so
• 30:37
  they're
• 30:37
  not
• 30:37
  overtly
• 30:38
  biblical
• 30:38
  for
• 30:38
  those
• 30:38
  who
• 30:38
  are
• 30:38
  not
• 30:39
  religious.
• 30:39
  So
• 30:39
  it
• 30:39
  can
• 30:39
  still
• 30:40
  just
• 30:40
  be
• 30:40
  a
• 30:40
  fun,
• 30:40
  surface
• 30:41
  bedtime
• 30:41
  story.
• 30:42
  But
• 30:42
  for
• 30:42
  people
• 30:42
  of
• 30:42
  faith,
• 30:43
  I
• 30:43
  think
• 30:43
  the
• 30:43
  book
• 30:43
  has
• 30:43
  a
• 30:44
  lot
• 30:44
  deeper
• 30:44
  meaning
• 30:44
  and
• 30:44
  the
• 30:45
  second
• 30:45
  one
• 30:45
  will
• 30:45
  as
• 30:45
  well.
• 30:46
  Okay,
• 30:47
  so
• 30:47
  that's
• 30:47
  part
• 30:48
  of
• 30:48
  your
• 30:48
  writing
• 30:48
  process.
• 30:49
  Yep.
• 30:50
  I'm
• 30:50
  also
• 30:51
  curious
• 30:51
  about
• 30:52
  when
• 30:52
  you
• 30:52
  started
• 30:53
  on
• 30:53
  your
• 30:53
  journey
• 30:54
  and
• 30:54
  you
• 30:55
  finally
• 30:56
  received
• 30:57
  the
• 30:57
  first
• 30:58
  copy
• 30:58
  of
• 30:59
  your
• 30:59
  finished
• 30:59
  book.
• 31:00
  And
• 31:01
  you
• 31:02
  might
• 31:02
  have
• 31:02
  to
• 31:02
  take
• 31:02
  a
• 31:03
  couple
• 31:03
  of
• 31:03
  steps
• 31:03
  back,
• 31:04
  but
• 31:04
  I'm
• 31:04
  curious
• 31:05
  about
• 31:06
  your.
• 31:07
  How
• 31:07
  you
• 31:08
  measure
• 31:08
  the
• 31:09
  success
• 31:09
  of
• 31:09
  this
• 31:10
  book.
• 31:10
  How
• 31:11
  are
• 31:11
  you
• 31:11
  measuring
• 31:11
  it?
• 31:12
  So
• 31:12
  what
• 31:12
  was
• 31:12
  your
• 31:13
  idea
• 31:13
  for
• 31:14
  success
• 31:14
  and
• 31:15
  what.
• 31:15
  That's
• 31:15
  a
• 31:16
  reality
• 31:17
  now
• 31:17
  that
• 31:17
  you've
• 31:17
  had
• 31:18
  the
• 31:18
  book
• 31:18
  in
• 31:18
  the
• 31:18
  market?
• 31:19
  Yeah,
• 31:19
  that's
• 31:19
  a
• 31:20
  fantastic
• 31:20
  question,
• 31:21
  Rick.
• 31:21
  I
• 31:22
  don't
• 31:23
  know
• 31:23
  that
• 31:23
  I
• 31:23
  really
• 31:23
  had
• 31:24
  a
• 31:24
  picture
• 31:24
  of
• 31:24
  success.
• 31:25
  It's
• 31:25
  interesting
• 31:26
  because
• 31:26
  with
• 31:27
  social
• 31:27
  media,
• 31:27
  we
• 31:28
  can
• 31:28
  follow
• 31:29
  authors
• 31:29
  and
• 31:30
  influencers
• 31:30
  and
• 31:31
  watch
• 31:31
  what
• 31:31
  they
• 31:31
  do
• 31:31
  all
• 31:31
  day,
• 31:32
  and
• 31:32
  there's
• 31:32
  obviously
• 31:33
  or
• 31:33
  can
• 31:33
  easily
• 31:34
  be
• 31:34
  the
• 31:34
  sense
• 31:34
  of
• 31:35
  comparison
• 31:36
  or
• 31:36
  fear
• 31:36
  of
• 31:36
  missing
• 31:37
  out
• 31:37
  of,
• 31:37
  oh,
• 31:37
  what
• 31:37
  are
• 31:37
  they
• 31:38
  doing?
• 31:38
  What
• 31:38
  do
• 31:38
  I
• 31:38
  need
• 31:38
  to
• 31:38
  do
• 31:39
  over
• 31:39
  here?
• 31:39
  And
• 31:39
  so
• 31:39
  it's
• 31:40
  really
• 31:40
  easy
• 31:40
  to
• 31:40
  get
• 31:40
  caught
• 31:41
  up
• 31:41
  in
• 31:41
  a
• 31:41
  life
• 31:42
  like
• 31:42
  that.
• 31:42
  And
• 31:42
  I've
• 31:42
  tried
• 31:43
  to
• 31:43
  see
• 31:44
  what
• 31:44
  success
• 31:44
  looks
• 31:45
  like
• 31:45
  for
• 31:45
  some
• 31:45
  people,
• 31:46
  but
• 31:46
  also
• 31:47
  let
• 31:47
  it
• 31:47
  be
• 31:47
  open
• 31:48
  for
• 31:48
  what
• 31:48
  it
• 31:48
  looks
• 31:48
  like
• 31:49
  for
• 31:49
  me.
• 31:49
  For
• 31:49
  me,
• 31:50
  success
• 31:50
  is
• 31:51
  when
• 31:51
  I
• 31:51
  hear
• 31:52
  from
• 31:53
  a
• 31:53
  friend,
• 31:54
  hey,
• 31:54
  I
• 31:54
  just
• 31:54
  had
• 31:54
  somebody
• 31:55
  who's
• 31:55
  going
• 31:55
  through
• 31:55
  something
• 31:55
  hard.
• 31:56
  I
• 31:56
  need
• 31:56
  to
• 31:56
  order
• 31:56
  a
• 31:56
  copy
• 31:57
  of
• 31:57
  your
• 31:57
  book
• 31:57
  to
• 31:57
  help
• 31:57
  them.
• 31:58
  And,
• 31:58
  wow,
• 31:59
  that's.
• 31:59
  For
• 31:59
  me,
• 32:00
  success
• 32:00
  is
• 32:00
  knowing
• 32:01
  that
• 32:01
  something
• 32:01
  I
• 32:01
  did,
• 32:02
  something
• 32:02
  I
• 32:02
  wrote,
• 32:03
  is
• 32:03
  helping
• 32:03
  another
• 32:04
  person.
• 32:05
  And
• 32:05
  so
• 32:06
  every
• 32:06
  time
• 32:06
  I
• 32:07
  hear
• 32:07
  a
• 32:07
  story
• 32:07
  like
• 32:08
  that
• 32:08
  or
• 32:08
  I
• 32:08
  know
• 32:08
  a
• 32:08
  friend
• 32:09
  reaches
• 32:09
  out
• 32:09
  to
• 32:09
  me,
• 32:09
  hey,
• 32:09
  do
• 32:09
  you
• 32:10
  have
• 32:10
  a
• 32:10
  copy?
• 32:10
  I'll
• 32:10
  buy
• 32:11
  one
• 32:11
  directly
• 32:11
  from
• 32:11
  you,
• 32:11
  and
• 32:12
  you
• 32:12
  can
• 32:12
  just
• 32:12
  send
• 32:12
  me
• 32:12
  a
• 32:12
  pay
• 32:13
  link
• 32:13
  to
• 32:13
  me.
• 32:14
  That's
• 32:14
  one
• 32:14
  measure
• 32:15
  of
• 32:15
  success.
• 32:15
  Knowing
• 32:15
  that
• 32:16
  book
• 32:16
  is
• 32:16
  getting
• 32:16
  into
• 32:16
  the
• 32:16
  hands
• 32:17
  of
• 32:17
  somebody
• 32:17
  who
• 32:17
  really
• 32:18
  needed
• 32:18
  it
• 32:18
  and
• 32:19
  is
• 32:19
  going
• 32:19
  through
• 32:19
  a
• 32:19
  hard
• 32:20
  thing.
• 32:20
  There's
• 32:20
  obviously
• 32:21
  measures
• 32:21
  of
• 32:21
  success,
• 32:22
  like
• 32:22
  you
• 32:22
  talked
• 32:22
  about,
• 32:23
  sold
• 32:23
  your
• 32:23
  first
• 32:23
  100
• 32:24
  books.
• 32:24
  That's
• 32:24
  a
• 32:25
  milestone,
• 32:25
  right?
• 32:25
  I'm
• 32:26
  getting
• 32:26
  into
• 32:26
  a
• 32:26
  bookstore.
• 32:27
  I
• 32:27
  found
• 32:27
  that
• 32:27
  getting
• 32:28
  placement
• 32:28
  in
• 32:28
  a
• 32:28
  bookstore
• 32:29
  is
• 32:30
  a
• 32:30
  bigger
• 32:30
  challenge
• 32:30
  than
• 32:31
  I
• 32:31
  thought
• 32:31
  it
• 32:31
  would
• 32:31
  be.
• 32:32
  And
• 32:32
  I
• 32:32
  think
• 32:32
  that
• 32:32
  independent
• 32:33
  bookstore
• 32:33
  owners
• 32:34
  have
• 32:35
  a
• 32:35
  lot
• 32:35
  that
• 32:35
  they're
• 32:35
  facing
• 32:36
  today.
• 32:36
  Obviously,
• 32:36
  they're
• 32:37
  competing
• 32:37
  with
• 32:37
  giants
• 32:38
  like
• 32:38
  Amazons
• 32:39
  and
• 32:39
  things
• 32:40
  like
• 32:40
  that.
• 32:40
  And
• 32:40
  so
• 32:41
  I
• 32:41
  don't
• 32:41
  envy
• 32:41
  the
• 32:42
  situation
• 32:42
  that
• 32:43
  they're
• 32:43
  in
• 32:43
  as
• 32:43
  small
• 32:43
  business
• 32:44
  owners,
• 32:44
  but
• 32:45
  I
• 32:45
  trying
• 32:45
  to
• 32:46
  get
• 32:46
  into
• 32:46
  a
• 32:46
  bookstore
• 32:47
  has
• 32:47
  been
• 32:47
  harder
• 32:47
  than
• 32:47
  I
• 32:47
  thought.
• 32:48
  So
• 32:48
  being
• 32:48
  your
• 32:48
  own.
• 32:49
  But
• 32:49
  do
• 32:49
  you
• 32:49
  think
• 32:50
  of
• 32:50
  yourself
• 32:50
  as
• 32:50
  a
• 32:50
  small
• 32:51
  business
• 32:51
  owner
• 32:51
  with
• 32:52
  having
• 32:53
  a
• 32:53
  single
• 32:53
  title?
• 32:54
  Not
• 32:54
  for
• 32:55
  my
• 32:55
  book.
• 32:55
  I
• 32:55
  have
• 32:55
  my
• 32:56
  own
• 32:56
  professional
• 32:56
  business
• 32:57
  so
• 32:57
  I
• 32:57
  definitely
• 32:57
  see
• 32:57
  myself
• 32:58
  as
• 32:58
  a
• 32:58
  business
• 32:58
  owner
• 32:59
  there.
• 32:59
  But
• 32:59
  in
• 32:59
  terms
• 32:59
  of
• 33:00
  building
• 33:00
  my.
• 33:01
  I
• 33:01
  don't
• 33:01
  know
• 33:01
  if
• 33:01
  I'll
• 33:02
  have
• 33:02
  a
• 33:02
  book
• 33:02
  empire
• 33:03
  one
• 33:03
  day
• 33:03
  or
• 33:03
  what
• 33:03
  success
• 33:04
  looks
• 33:04
  like.
• 33:04
  I
• 33:05
  don't
• 33:05
  know.
• 33:05
  I
• 33:05
  know
• 33:05
  I'd
• 33:06
  love
• 33:06
  to
• 33:06
  write
• 33:06
  multiple
• 33:07
  and
• 33:07
  really
• 33:07
  I
• 33:07
  have
• 33:07
  this
• 33:07
  dream
• 33:08
  of
• 33:09
  early
• 33:09
  retirement
• 33:10
  because
• 33:10
  my
• 33:10
  husband
• 33:10
  gets
• 33:11
  to
• 33:11
  have
• 33:11
  early
• 33:11
  retirement
• 33:12
  because
• 33:12
  he
• 33:13
  got
• 33:13
  a
• 33:13
  really
• 33:13
  great
• 33:14
  job
• 33:14
  with
• 33:14
  a
• 33:14
  pension
• 33:14
  when
• 33:15
  we
• 33:15
  were
• 33:15
  really
• 33:15
  young
• 33:15
  and
• 33:15
  we've
• 33:16
  been
• 33:16
  together
• 33:16
  since
• 33:16
  we
• 33:17
  were
• 33:17
  like
• 33:17
  0
• 33:18
  years
• 33:18
  old.
• 33:18
  Not
• 33:19
  really
• 33:19
  0,
• 33:19
  but
• 33:19
  21.
• 33:20
  And
• 33:20
  so
• 33:20
  we
• 33:20
  got
• 33:20
  married
• 33:21
  young
• 33:21
  and
• 33:21
  just
• 33:22
  we've
• 33:22
  been
• 33:22
  fortunate
• 33:23
  to
• 33:23
  build
• 33:23
  this
• 33:23
  really
• 33:23
  big
• 33:24
  beautiful
• 33:24
  life
• 33:25
  together.
• 33:25
  So
• 33:25
  I
• 33:26
  really
• 33:26
  have
• 33:26
  this
• 33:26
  dream
• 33:26
  of
• 33:27
  being
• 33:27
  able
• 33:27
  to
• 33:28
  operate
• 33:28
  in
• 33:28
  my
• 33:29
  own
• 33:29
  space
• 33:29
  as
• 33:29
  a
• 33:30
  communications
• 33:30
  consultant.
• 33:31
  But
• 33:31
  also
• 33:31
  I
• 33:31
  love
• 33:32
  that
• 33:32
  like
• 33:32
  my
• 33:32
  hope
• 33:33
  would
• 33:33
  be.
• 33:33
  I
• 33:33
  don't
• 33:33
  know
• 33:33
  if
• 33:33
  it's
• 33:34
  a
• 33:34
  five
• 33:34
  or
• 33:34
  a
• 33:34
  ten
• 33:34
  year
• 33:34
  goal,
• 33:35
  but
• 33:35
  I
• 33:35
  love
• 33:35
  this.
• 33:35
  Half
• 33:36
  of
• 33:36
  my
• 33:37
  annual
• 33:37
  income
• 33:37
  were
• 33:38
  from
• 33:38
  book
• 33:38
  writing
• 33:39
  and
• 33:39
  from
• 33:39
  proceeds
• 33:40
  from
• 33:40
  my
• 33:40
  book.
• 33:40
  And
• 33:40
  I'd
• 33:41
  love
• 33:41
  if
• 33:41
  there
• 33:41
  were
• 33:42
  future
• 33:42
  paid
• 33:42
  opportunities
• 33:43
  to
• 33:43
  come
• 33:43
  speak
• 33:44
  and
• 33:44
  read
• 33:44
  and
• 33:45
  do
• 33:45
  things
• 33:45
  like
• 33:45
  that.
• 33:45
  I
• 33:46
  think
• 33:46
  that's
• 33:46
  a
• 33:46
  future
• 33:46
  measure
• 33:47
  of
• 33:47
  success.
• 33:47
  But
• 33:47
  the
• 33:48
  success
• 33:48
  right
• 33:48
  now,
• 33:49
  sometimes
• 33:49
  it's
• 33:49
  just
• 33:49
  really
• 33:49
  small
• 33:50
  things.
• 33:50
  Hey,
• 33:50
  I
• 33:50
  got
• 33:50
  a
• 33:51
  couple
• 33:51
  copies
• 33:51
  of
• 33:51
  my
• 33:51
  book
• 33:52
  in
• 33:52
  the
• 33:52
  store
• 33:52
  or
• 33:52
  this
• 33:53
  week
• 33:53
  I
• 33:53
  sent
• 33:53
  out
• 33:53
  a
• 33:53
  couple
• 33:54
  copies
• 33:54
  of
• 33:54
  my
• 33:54
  book
• 33:54
  or
• 33:55
  I'm
• 33:55
  going
• 33:55
  to
• 33:55
  go
• 33:55
  do
• 33:56
  a
• 33:56
  book
• 33:56
  signing
• 33:56
  in
• 33:56
  a
• 33:56
  few
• 33:57
  weeks
• 33:57
  and
• 33:57
  I'll
• 33:57
  sell
• 33:57
  a
• 33:57
  few
• 33:57
  more
• 33:58
  copies
• 33:58
  that
• 33:58
  day.
• 33:58
  And
• 33:59
  yeah,
• 33:59
  I
• 33:59
  think
• 34:00
  success
• 34:00
  for
• 34:01
  every
• 34:01
  individual
• 34:02
  author
• 34:02
  really
• 34:02
  needs
• 34:03
  to
• 34:03
  be
• 34:03
  unique
• 34:03
  to
• 34:04
  you.
• 34:04
  And
• 34:04
  you
• 34:04
  can't
• 34:05
  just
• 34:05
  look
• 34:05
  around
• 34:06
  at
• 34:06
  what
• 34:06
  other
• 34:06
  people
• 34:07
  are
• 34:07
  doing.
• 34:07
  Let
• 34:07
  it
• 34:07
  inspire
• 34:08
  you
• 34:08
  and
• 34:08
  help
• 34:09
  give
• 34:09
  you
• 34:09
  ideas.
• 34:09
  But
• 34:10
  don't
• 34:10
  feel
• 34:11
  you
• 34:11
  gotta
• 34:11
  make
• 34:11
  sure
• 34:11
  that
• 34:12
  comparison
• 34:12
  is
• 34:13
  the
• 34:13
  thief
• 34:13
  of
• 34:13
  joy.
• 34:14
  And
• 34:14
  so
• 34:14
  you
• 34:14
  have
• 34:14
  to
• 34:14
  just
• 34:15
  get
• 34:15
  be
• 34:15
  very
• 34:15
  mindful
• 34:16
  of
• 34:16
  that
• 34:16
  when
• 34:16
  you're
• 34:16
  working
• 34:17
  on
• 34:17
  your
• 34:17
  books
• 34:17
  for
• 34:18
  coming
• 34:18
  up
• 34:18
  with
• 34:18
  what
• 34:19
  success
• 34:19
  looks
• 34:19
  like.
• 34:19
  And
• 34:20
  for
• 34:20
  me
• 34:20
  it
• 34:20
  just
• 34:20
  looks
• 34:20
  different
• 34:21
  from
• 34:21
  week
• 34:21
  to
• 34:21
  week.
• 34:22
  And
• 34:22
  like
• 34:22
  you
• 34:22
  said,
• 34:22
  it
• 34:23
  seems
• 34:23
  to
• 34:23
  me
• 34:23
  you're
• 34:24
  the
• 34:24
  role
• 34:24
  of
• 34:25
  writing.
• 34:26
  You
• 34:26
  envision
• 34:27
  it
• 34:27
  five
• 34:28
  or
• 34:28
  ten
• 34:28
  years
• 34:28
  down
• 34:29
  the
• 34:29
  road
• 34:30
  as
• 34:30
  being
• 34:30
  a
• 34:30
  bigger
• 34:31
  part
• 34:31
  of
• 34:31
  your
• 34:31
  life.
• 34:32
  Yes.
• 34:32
  Yep.
• 34:32
  I
• 34:32
  feel
• 34:33
  like
• 34:33
  this
• 34:33
  is
• 34:33
  just
• 34:33
  the
• 34:33
  start.
• 34:34
  So
• 34:34
  again
• 34:34
  I
• 34:35
  just
• 34:36
  going
• 34:36
  through
• 34:36
  life
• 34:37
  and
• 34:37
  seeing
• 34:37
  life
• 34:37
  as
• 34:38
  a
• 34:38
  parent
• 34:38
  and
• 34:38
  just
• 34:38
  having
• 34:39
  this
• 34:39
  really
• 34:39
  great
• 34:39
  community
• 34:40
  of
• 34:40
  friends
• 34:40
  and
• 34:40
  seeing
• 34:40
  all
• 34:41
  the
• 34:41
  things
• 34:41
  they're
• 34:41
  going
• 34:41
  through.
• 34:42
  There's
• 34:42
  so
• 34:43
  many
• 34:43
  book
• 34:43
  ideas
• 34:43
  that
• 34:44
  come
• 34:44
  out
• 34:44
  of
• 34:44
  those
• 34:45
  relationships.
• 34:46
  So
• 34:46
  I
• 34:46
  just
• 34:46
  Continue.
• 34:47
  Yeah.
• 34:47
  That
• 34:48
  life
• 34:48
  that
• 34:48
  I'm
• 34:48
  living,
• 34:49
  I'm
• 34:49
  sure.
• 34:49
  Just
• 34:49
  like
• 34:50
  Rick
• 34:50
  riding
• 34:50
  with
• 34:50
  your
• 34:51
  grandkids.
• 34:51
  I'm
• 34:52
  sure
• 34:52
  the
• 34:52
  book
• 34:52
  idea,
• 34:53
  you
• 34:53
  said
• 34:53
  you
• 34:53
  have
• 34:53
  38
• 34:54
  stories.
• 34:54
  That's
• 34:54
  fantastic
• 34:55
  that
• 34:55
  you
• 34:55
  have
• 34:56
  all
• 34:56
  these
• 34:56
  storylines
• 34:56
  because
• 34:57
  you're
• 34:57
  just
• 34:57
  capturing
• 34:58
  life
• 34:58
  and
• 34:59
  what's
• 34:59
  going
• 34:59
  on
• 34:59
  around
• 34:59
  you.
• 35:00
  Yeah,
• 35:00
  it's
• 35:00
  fun.
• 35:01
  Because
• 35:01
  you
• 35:01
  know
• 35:01
  what?
• 35:02
  I
• 35:02
  just
• 35:02
  had
• 35:02
  one
• 35:03
  of
• 35:03
  the.
• 35:03
  One
• 35:03
  of
• 35:03
  my
• 35:03
  guests
• 35:04
  on
• 35:04
  the
• 35:04
  show
• 35:05
  just
• 35:05
  launched
• 35:06
  his
• 35:06
  fourth
• 35:06
  book,
• 35:07
  and
• 35:08
  he
• 35:08
  had
• 35:08
  originally
• 35:09
  said
• 35:09
  to
• 35:09
  me,
• 35:09
  you
• 35:10
  know
• 35:10
  what,
• 35:10
  Rick?
• 35:11
  One
• 35:11
  and
• 35:12
  done.
• 35:12
  That
• 35:13
  was
• 35:13
  his
• 35:13
  going
• 35:13
  in
• 35:14
  position.
• 35:14
  One
• 35:14
  and
• 35:15
  done.
• 35:16
  Here
• 35:16
  he
• 35:16
  is
• 35:16
  four
• 35:17
  books
• 35:17
  later.
• 35:18
  The
• 35:19
  one
• 35:19
  and
• 35:19
  done.
• 35:19
  I
• 35:19
  have
• 35:20
  yet
• 35:20
  to
• 35:20
  talk
• 35:20
  to
• 35:21
  any
• 35:22
  children's
• 35:22
  book
• 35:23
  authority.
• 35:24
  If
• 35:24
  I
• 35:24
  dig
• 35:25
  down
• 35:25
  deep
• 35:25
  enough,
• 35:26
  there
• 35:27
  is
• 35:27
  no
• 35:27
  one.
• 35:27
  And
• 35:28
  done.
• 35:28
  And
• 35:29
  so,
• 35:29
  yeah,
• 35:29
  so
• 35:30
  it's
• 35:30
  definitely
• 35:31
  interesting.
• 35:31
  And
• 35:31
  so
• 35:32
  my
• 35:32
  grandson,
• 35:33
  the
• 35:33
  author,
• 35:34
  asked
• 35:34
  if
• 35:34
  we
• 35:34
  would
• 35:35
  be.
• 35:35
  If
• 35:35
  I
• 35:36
  would
• 35:36
  be
• 35:36
  part
• 35:36
  of
• 35:36
  his
• 35:36
  book
• 35:37
  launch
• 35:37
  team.
• 35:38
  And
• 35:38
  I
• 35:38
  said,
• 35:38
  absolutely.
• 35:39
  And
• 35:40
  then
• 35:40
  we
• 35:40
  ended
• 35:40
  up,
• 35:41
  I
• 35:41
  said
• 35:41
  to
• 35:41
  him,
• 35:42
  would
• 35:42
  you
• 35:42
  mind
• 35:42
  if
• 35:42
  my
• 35:43
  youngest
• 35:43
  grandson
• 35:44
  read
• 35:44
  your
• 35:44
  book
• 35:45
  and
• 35:45
  did
• 35:45
  a
• 35:45
  book
• 35:46
  review
• 35:46
  and
• 35:46
  we
• 35:46
  made
• 35:46
  it
• 35:47
  into
• 35:47
  a
• 35:47
  podcast
• 35:48
  show?
• 35:48
  And
• 35:48
  he
• 35:49
  said,
• 35:49
  yeah,
• 35:49
  that'd
• 35:50
  be
• 35:50
  fantastic.
• 35:51
  So
• 35:51
  that's
• 35:51
  what
• 35:51
  we
• 35:51
  did.
• 35:52
  So
• 35:52
  we
• 35:52
  were
• 35:53
  part
• 35:53
  of.
• 35:53
  Awesome.
• 35:53
  Yeah.
• 35:54
  So
• 35:54
  we
• 35:54
  had
• 35:54
  fun.
• 35:54
  And
• 35:55
  you
• 35:55
  know
• 35:55
  what?
• 35:55
  That
• 35:55
  was
• 35:56
  something
• 35:56
  that
• 35:57
  I
• 35:57
  don't
• 35:57
  think
• 35:57
  too
• 35:58
  many
• 35:58
  people
• 35:58
  do
• 35:58
  with
• 35:59
  their
• 35:59
  grandchildren.
• 36:00
  So,
• 36:00
  you
• 36:01
  know,
• 36:01
  to
• 36:01
  do
• 36:01
  something
• 36:02
  a
• 36:02
  little
• 36:02
  different
• 36:03
  outside
• 36:03
  the
• 36:03
  box.
• 36:04
  That's
• 36:04
  excellent.
• 36:05
  No,
• 36:05
  I
• 36:05
  love
• 36:05
  that.
• 36:06
  And
• 36:06
  I
• 36:06
  told
• 36:06
  my
• 36:06
  son,
• 36:06
  I'm
• 36:07
  like,
• 36:07
  if
• 36:07
  you
• 36:07
  want
• 36:07
  to
• 36:07
  write
• 36:07
  a
• 36:07
  couple
• 36:08
  lines
• 36:08
  for
• 36:08
  the
• 36:08
  next
• 36:09
  book,
• 36:09
  I'll
• 36:09
  give
• 36:09
  you
• 36:09
  author
• 36:10
  credit.
• 36:10
  So
• 36:10
  he's
• 36:11
  got
• 36:11
  to
• 36:11
  want
• 36:11
  to
• 36:11
  show
• 36:11
  up
• 36:11
  and
• 36:12
  do
• 36:12
  the
• 36:12
  work.
• 36:12
  So
• 36:12
  you
• 36:13
  know
• 36:13
  what
• 36:13
  you
• 36:13
  could
• 36:13
  do,
• 36:13
  too.
• 36:14
  I
• 36:14
  have
• 36:14
  to
• 36:15
  show
• 36:15
  you
• 36:15
  this.
• 36:15
  So
• 36:16
  we
• 36:16
  did
• 36:16
  up
• 36:16
  our
• 36:17
  own
• 36:17
  bookmark,
• 36:18
  and
• 36:19
  there's
• 36:19
  a
• 36:19
  QR
• 36:19
  code.
• 36:20
  I've
• 36:21
  talked
• 36:21
  about
• 36:21
  this
• 36:21
  before,
• 36:22
  but
• 36:22
  we
• 36:23
  actually
• 36:23
  did
• 36:23
  an
• 36:23
  audiobook
• 36:24
  of
• 36:24
  our
• 36:24
  first
• 36:25
  book.
• 36:25
  And
• 36:26
  my
• 36:26
  middle
• 36:27
  granddaughter,
• 36:28
  she's
• 36:28
  the
• 36:29
  narrator
• 36:29
  of
• 36:29
  the
• 36:30
  book.
• 36:30
  So
• 36:31
  what
• 36:31
  we
• 36:31
  do
• 36:32
  is
• 36:32
  if
• 36:32
  you
• 36:33
  buy
• 36:33
  our
• 36:34
  book,
• 36:34
  we
• 36:35
  give
• 36:35
  you
• 36:35
  a
• 36:35
  bookmark
• 36:36
  and
• 36:36
  you
• 36:36
  get
• 36:36
  the
• 36:37
  audiobook
• 36:38
  also
• 36:38
  with
• 36:38
  it.
• 36:39
  That
• 36:39
  is
• 36:40
  fantastic.
• 36:40
  And
• 36:40
  you
• 36:40
  know
• 36:40
  what's
• 36:41
  interesting
• 36:41
  is
• 36:41
  my
• 36:42
  son
• 36:42
  had
• 36:42
  a
• 36:42
  phenomenal
• 36:43
  kindergarten
• 36:44
  teacher.
• 36:44
  And
• 36:45
  I
• 36:45
  said
• 36:46
  to
• 36:46
  her,
• 36:46
  if
• 36:46
  I
• 36:47
  ever
• 36:47
  write
• 36:47
  a
• 36:47
  book,
• 36:47
  one
• 36:47
  day
• 36:48
  I'm
• 36:48
  going
• 36:48
  to
• 36:49
  narrate
• 36:49
  it.
• 36:50
  Because
• 36:50
  she
• 36:50
  just
• 36:50
  had
• 36:50
  this
• 36:51
  perfect,
• 36:51
  very
• 36:52
  sweet,
• 36:52
  lovely
• 36:53
  kindergarten
• 36:53
  teacher
• 36:54
  voice.
• 36:55
  So
• 36:55
  I
• 36:55
  still
• 36:55
  do
• 36:55
  see
• 36:56
  her.
• 36:56
  So
• 36:56
  her
• 36:56
  son
• 36:57
  and
• 36:57
  my
• 36:57
  son
• 36:57
  play.
• 36:58
  They're
• 36:58
  a
• 36:58
  level
• 36:58
  apart.
• 36:59
  They
• 36:59
  play
• 36:59
  flag
• 36:59
  football
• 37:00
  in
• 37:00
  the
• 37:00
  same
• 37:00
  league.
• 37:00
  And
• 37:01
  so
• 37:01
  I
• 37:01
  still
• 37:01
  run
• 37:01
  into
• 37:01
  her.
• 37:02
  So
• 37:02
  there
• 37:02
  you
• 37:02
  go.
• 37:03
  At
• 37:03
  our
• 37:03
  school,
• 37:03
  that's
• 37:03
  what
• 37:04
  you
• 37:04
  do.
• 37:04
  I
• 37:04
  love
• 37:05
  it.
• 37:06
  So
• 37:07
  I'M
• 37:07
  curious.
• 37:08
  Andrea,
• 37:09
  advice
• 37:09
  for
• 37:09
  aspiring
• 37:10
  authors.
• 37:11
  Now
• 37:11
  that
• 37:12
  you've
• 37:12
  brought
• 37:12
  your
• 37:12
  book
• 37:13
  and
• 37:13
  you
• 37:13
  went
• 37:13
  on
• 37:14
  that
• 37:14
  journey,
• 37:15
  what
• 37:15
  would
• 37:15
  you
• 37:15
  say
• 37:16
  to
• 37:16
  people
• 37:16
  who
• 37:16
  said,
• 37:17
  I
• 37:17
  just
• 37:18
  love
• 37:18
  to
• 37:18
  get
• 37:19
  my
• 37:19
  book
• 37:19
  out
• 37:19
  of
• 37:19
  me?
• 37:20
  How
• 37:20
  do
• 37:20
  I
• 37:20
  do
• 37:20
  this?
• 37:21
  I
• 37:21
  think
• 37:22
  everybody
• 37:22
  is.
• 37:22
  How
• 37:23
  is
• 37:23
  unique.
• 37:23
  I
• 37:24
  was
• 37:24
  so
• 37:24
  blessed
• 37:24
  to
• 37:25
  have
• 37:25
  a
• 37:25
  very
• 37:25
  patient
• 37:26
  publisher
• 37:26
  who
• 37:27
  again,
• 37:27
  she
• 37:27
  owns
• 37:28
  that
• 37:28
  book
• 37:28
  doula
• 37:29
  title
• 37:29
  that
• 37:29
  she
• 37:30
  moniker
• 37:30
  she's
• 37:30
  given
• 37:31
  herself
• 37:31
  because
• 37:31
  she
• 37:31
  really
• 37:32
  does
• 37:32
  help
• 37:32
  you
• 37:32
  birth
• 37:33
  something.
• 37:34
  But
• 37:34
  I
• 37:34
  think
• 37:35
  my
• 37:35
  advice
• 37:36
  would
• 37:36
  just
• 37:36
  be
• 37:36
  that
• 37:36
  it's
• 37:36
  worth
• 37:37
  it.
• 37:37
  I
• 37:37
  know
• 37:37
  that
• 37:38
  sometimes
• 37:38
  the
• 37:39
  process
• 37:39
  seems
• 37:40
  daunting
• 37:40
  and
• 37:40
  long
• 37:41
  and
• 37:41
  it's.
• 37:41
  And
• 37:41
  I'm
• 37:42
  the
• 37:42
  first
• 37:42
  person
• 37:43
  that
• 37:43
  when
• 37:43
  I
• 37:44
  sometimes
• 37:44
  start
• 37:45
  a
• 37:45
  project
• 37:45
  and
• 37:46
  that
• 37:46
  can
• 37:46
  be
• 37:46
  a
• 37:46
  myriad
• 37:46
  of
• 37:46
  ways,
• 37:47
  like
• 37:47
  renovating
• 37:47
  our
• 37:48
  basement
• 37:48
  to
• 37:48
  this
• 37:48
  office
• 37:49
  space.
• 37:50
  Like,
• 37:50
  I
• 37:51
  have
• 37:51
  such
• 37:51
  a
• 37:51
  hard
• 37:51
  time
• 37:52
  envisioning
• 37:52
  the
• 37:53
  end
• 37:53
  picture
• 37:54
  that
• 37:54
  I
• 37:54
  get
• 37:54
  so
• 37:55
  caught
• 37:55
  up
• 37:55
  in
• 37:55
  the
• 37:55
  details
• 37:56
  and
• 37:56
  all
• 37:56
  the
• 37:56
  steps
• 37:56
  it's
• 37:57
  going
• 37:57
  to
• 37:57
  take
• 37:57
  together
• 37:57
  that
• 37:57
  I
• 37:58
  don't
• 37:58
  just
• 37:58
  take
• 37:58
  the
• 37:59
  first
• 37:59
  step.
• 37:59
  So
• 37:59
  I
• 37:59
  think
• 38:00
  maybe
• 38:00
  that's
• 38:00
  really
• 38:01
  my
• 38:01
  advice
• 38:01
  is
• 38:01
  just
• 38:02
  take
• 38:02
  the
• 38:02
  first
• 38:02
  step.
• 38:02
  So
• 38:03
  maybe
• 38:03
  it's
• 38:04
  writing
• 38:04
  a
• 38:04
  few
• 38:04
  lines,
• 38:05
  maybe
• 38:05
  it
• 38:05
  is
• 38:05
  calling
• 38:06
  a
• 38:06
  publisher
• 38:06
  and
• 38:06
  having
• 38:07
  the
• 38:07
  good
• 38:07
  fortune
• 38:07
  of
• 38:07
  meeting
• 38:08
  your
• 38:08
  own
• 38:08
  book
• 38:08
  Doula.
• 38:09
  Or
• 38:09
  please
• 38:09
  call
• 38:09
  Jennifer
• 38:10
  Bright
• 38:10
  of
• 38:10
  Bright
• 38:10
  Communications
• 38:11
  of
• 38:11
  Hellertown,
• 38:11
  Pennsylvania.
• 38:12
  She's
• 38:12
  fantastic.
• 38:13
  But
• 38:13
  whatever
• 38:13
  your
• 38:14
  first
• 38:14
  step
• 38:14
  is,
• 38:14
  just
• 38:14
  get
• 38:15
  started.
• 38:15
  And
• 38:15
  once
• 38:15
  you
• 38:16
  take
• 38:16
  that
• 38:16
  first
• 38:16
  step,
• 38:17
  there's
• 38:17
  always
• 38:17
  another
• 38:18
  one
• 38:18
  that
• 38:18
  comes
• 38:18
  after
• 38:19
  it
• 38:19
  and
• 38:19
  it
• 38:19
  just
• 38:20
  starts
• 38:20
  to
• 38:20
  flow.
• 38:21
  And
• 38:21
  so
• 38:21
  to
• 38:22
  not
• 38:22
  go
• 38:22
  in
• 38:22
  with
• 38:22
  this
• 38:23
  mindset
• 38:23
  of
• 38:23
  this
• 38:23
  is
• 38:23
  how
• 38:24
  to
• 38:24
  write
• 38:24
  a
• 38:24
  book.
• 38:24
  And
• 38:24
  it's
• 38:25
  very
• 38:25
  formulaic.
• 38:25
  I'm
• 38:26
  sure
• 38:26
  there's
• 38:26
  publishers
• 38:27
  out
• 38:27
  there
• 38:27
  that
• 38:27
  have
• 38:27
  a
• 38:28
  formula.
• 38:28
  But
• 38:29
  I
• 38:29
  think
• 38:29
  because
• 38:29
  it's
• 38:29
  a
• 38:30
  creative
• 38:30
  process,
• 38:30
  right.
• 38:31
  It's
• 38:31
  really
• 38:31
  hard
• 38:32
  to
• 38:33
  make
• 38:33
  it
• 38:34
  so
• 38:34
  prescriptive
• 38:35
  like
• 38:35
  that.
• 38:35
  And
• 38:35
  so
• 38:36
  just
• 38:36
  do
• 38:36
  the
• 38:37
  first
• 38:37
  thing,
• 38:37
  figure
• 38:37
  out
• 38:37
  your
• 38:38
  first
• 38:38
  thing
• 38:38
  is,
• 38:38
  and
• 38:38
  then
• 38:39
  just
• 38:39
  continue
• 38:39
  going
• 38:39
  on
• 38:40
  the
• 38:40
  next
• 38:40
  thing.
• 38:40
  And
• 38:40
  it
• 38:40
  really
• 38:41
  does
• 38:41
  eventually
• 38:41
  come.
• 38:42
  And
• 38:42
  like
• 38:42
  I
• 38:42
  said,
• 38:42
  mine
• 38:43
  just
• 38:43
  flooded.
• 38:44
  Like,
• 38:44
  I
• 38:44
  was
• 38:45
  literally
• 38:45
  writing
• 38:45
  the
• 38:46
  last
• 38:46
  line
• 38:46
  on
• 38:46
  Easter
• 38:47
  Sunday,
• 38:47
  driving
• 38:47
  home
• 38:48
  from
• 38:48
  our
• 38:48
  cabin,
• 38:49
  like,
• 38:49
  in
• 38:49
  a
• 38:50
  little
• 38:50
  notebook.
• 38:50
  And
• 38:51
  then
• 38:51
  it
• 38:51
  was
• 38:51
  like
• 38:51
  the
• 38:51
  next
• 38:51
  day
• 38:52
  I
• 38:52
  started
• 38:52
  transcribing
• 38:53
  it.
• 38:53
  And
• 38:53
  then
• 38:53
  I'm
• 38:53
  like
• 38:54
  sending
• 38:54
  copies
• 38:54
  to
• 38:54
  my
• 38:55
  illustrator
• 38:55
  and
• 38:55
  saying,
• 38:56
  hey,
• 38:56
  I
• 38:56
  need
• 38:56
  some
• 38:57
  picture
• 38:57
  ideas
• 38:57
  for
• 38:57
  this.
• 38:58
  And,
• 38:58
  yeah,
• 38:58
  it
• 38:58
  just,
• 38:58
  it
• 38:59
  really
• 38:59
  started
• 38:59
  to
• 38:59
  flow
• 39:00
  so
• 39:00
  well.
• 39:00
  The
• 39:00
  second
• 39:00
  one
• 39:01
  come
• 39:01
  exactly
• 39:01
  the
• 39:01
  same
• 39:01
  way.
• 39:02
  It
• 39:02
  already
• 39:02
  isn't
• 39:03
  the
• 39:03
  same
• 39:03
  way.
• 39:04
  So
• 39:04
  for
• 39:04
  me,
• 39:05
  I
• 39:05
  wish
• 39:05
  I
• 39:05
  had
• 39:05
  something
• 39:05
  prescriptive,
• 39:06
  but.
• 39:06
  So
• 39:06
  just
• 39:06
  do
• 39:07
  the
• 39:07
  first,
• 39:07
  do
• 39:07
  the
• 39:07
  next,
• 39:08
  do
• 39:08
  the
• 39:08
  first
• 39:08
  thing
• 39:08
  and
• 39:08
  then
• 39:09
  do
• 39:09
  the
• 39:09
  next
• 39:09
  thing
• 39:09
  and
• 39:10
  it's
• 39:10
  worth
• 39:10
  it.
• 39:10
  So
• 39:10
  keep
• 39:11
  going.
• 39:11
  I
• 39:12
  couldn't
• 39:12
  agree
• 39:12
  with
• 39:12
  you
• 39:12
  more
• 39:13
  and
• 39:13
  it's
• 39:14
  nice
• 39:14
  because
• 39:14
  that's
• 39:14
  one
• 39:14
  of
• 39:15
  the
• 39:15
  reasons
• 39:15
  I
• 39:15
  started
• 39:15
  this
• 39:16
  podcast
• 39:16
  show
• 39:17
  is
• 39:17
  I
• 39:17
  did
• 39:17
  it
• 39:18
  and
• 39:18
  I
• 39:18
  did
• 39:18
  it
• 39:18
  different
• 39:19
  than
• 39:19
  you
• 39:20
  did
• 39:20
  it.
• 39:21
  Everybody
• 39:21
  does
• 39:22
  it
• 39:22
  different.
• 39:22
  But
• 39:23
  at
• 39:23
  the
• 39:23
  end
• 39:23
  of
• 39:24
  the
• 39:24
  day,
• 39:24
  guess
• 39:25
  what
• 39:25
  we
• 39:25
  did.
• 39:25
  We
• 39:26
  did
• 39:26
  it.
• 39:27
  Yeah,
• 39:27
  we
• 39:27
  did
• 39:27
  it.
• 39:28
  Exactly.
• 39:28
  So
• 39:29
  it's
• 39:29
  possible
• 39:29
  for
• 39:30
  everyone,
• 39:30
  that's
• 39:31
  for
• 39:31
  sure.
• 39:31
  Thank
• 39:31
  you
• 39:31
  for
• 39:32
  sharing
• 39:32
  that
• 39:32
  encouragement
• 39:33
  for
• 39:34
  readers.
• 39:35
  Why
• 39:35
  should
• 39:36
  they
• 39:36
  buy
• 39:36
  your
• 39:36
  book?
• 39:37
  Yeah,
• 39:38
  sure.
• 39:38
  So
• 39:38
  really,
• 39:39
  again,
• 39:39
  I
• 39:39
  wanted
• 39:39
  to
• 39:39
  write
• 39:40
  a
• 39:40
  book
• 39:40
  that
• 39:40
  was
• 39:41
  beneficial
• 39:41
  for
• 39:41
  parents
• 39:42
  and
• 39:42
  kids.
• 39:42
  A
• 39:42
  lot
• 39:42
  of
• 39:43
  times
• 39:43
  after
• 39:43
  I
• 39:43
  share
• 39:43
  a
• 39:44
  copy
• 39:44
  of
• 39:44
  this
• 39:44
  book,
• 39:44
  I'll
• 39:45
  get
• 39:45
  a
• 39:45
  note
• 39:45
  back
• 39:45
  from
• 39:46
  a
• 39:46
  mother
• 39:47
  especially
• 39:47
  and
• 39:47
  say,
• 39:47
  your
• 39:48
  book
• 39:48
  made
• 39:48
  me
• 39:48
  cry.
• 39:49
  It
• 39:49
  was
• 39:49
  beautiful
• 39:49
  and
• 39:49
  I
• 39:50
  loved
• 39:50
  the
• 39:50
  symbolism.
• 39:51
  So
• 39:51
  for
• 39:51
  me,
• 39:52
  it's
• 39:52
  why
• 39:52
  buy
• 39:52
  my
• 39:53
  book.
• 39:53
  It's
• 39:53
  that
• 39:53
  especially
• 39:54
  if
• 39:54
  you're
• 39:54
  going
• 39:54
  through
• 39:54
  a
• 39:55
  hard
• 39:55
  thing
• 39:55
  and
• 39:55
  you're
• 39:55
  having
• 39:55
  a
• 39:56
  hard
• 39:56
  time
• 39:57
  helping
• 39:57
  your
• 39:57
  child
• 39:57
  process
• 39:58
  a
• 39:58
  grief
• 39:58
  or
• 39:59
  loss
• 39:59
  situation,
• 39:59
  this
• 40:00
  book
• 40:00
  is
• 40:00
  a
• 40:00
  fantastic
• 40:01
  way
• 40:01
  to
• 40:01
  do
• 40:01
  it.
• 40:02
  And
• 40:02
  another
• 40:02
  thing
• 40:02
  I
• 40:03
  learned
• 40:03
  through
• 40:03
  some
• 40:03
  of
• 40:03
  my
• 40:03
  book
• 40:04
  process
• 40:04
  is
• 40:04
  that
• 40:05
  sometimes
• 40:05
  you
• 40:05
  best
• 40:06
  laid
• 40:06
  plans.
• 40:07
  My
• 40:07
  book
• 40:07
  actually
• 40:07
  has
• 40:08
  a
• 40:08
  couple
• 40:08
  blank
• 40:09
  white
• 40:09
  pages
• 40:09
  in
• 40:10
  the
• 40:10
  back
• 40:10
  of
• 40:10
  it
• 40:10
  and
• 40:10
  so
• 40:11
  I've
• 40:11
  actually
• 40:11
  encouraged
• 40:12
  people
• 40:12
  to
• 40:12
  use
• 40:12
  that
• 40:13
  to
• 40:13
  write
• 40:13
  about
• 40:13
  where
• 40:14
  they're
• 40:14
  seeing
• 40:14
  hope
• 40:15
  and
• 40:15
  to
• 40:15
  write
• 40:16
  a
• 40:16
  date
• 40:16
  of
• 40:16
  here's
• 40:16
  what
• 40:16
  I'm
• 40:17
  struggling
• 40:17
  with
• 40:17
  today.
• 40:17
  Maybe
• 40:18
  you're
• 40:18
  fresh
• 40:18
  off
• 40:18
  a
• 40:18
  locks
• 40:19
  and
• 40:19
  you're
• 40:19
  writing
• 40:20
  today's
• 40:20
  March
• 40:20
  11th.
• 40:21
  Cried
• 40:22
  all
• 40:22
  day,
• 40:22
  read
• 40:22
  this
• 40:23
  book
• 40:23
  and
• 40:23
  cried
• 40:23
  through
• 40:24
  bedtime.
• 40:24
  And
• 40:24
  then
• 40:24
  maybe
• 40:25
  you
• 40:25
  read,
• 40:25
  maybe
• 40:25
  you
• 40:26
  pick
• 40:26
  it
• 40:26
  up
• 40:26
  again
• 40:26
  in
• 40:26
  a
• 40:26
  couple
• 40:27
  weeks
• 40:27
  or
• 40:27
  a
• 40:27
  couple
• 40:27
  months
• 40:28
  and
• 40:28
  life
• 40:29
  looks
• 40:29
  a
• 40:29
  little
• 40:29
  different.
• 40:29
  We'll
• 40:30
  do
• 40:30
  a
• 40:30
  little
• 40:30
  journal
• 40:30
  and
• 40:31
  talk
• 40:31
  about
• 40:31
  that.
• 40:31
  And
• 40:32
  then
• 40:32
  maybe
• 40:33
  you
• 40:33
  start
• 40:33
  to
• 40:33
  be
• 40:34
  able
• 40:34
  to
• 40:34
  process
• 40:34
  your
• 40:34
  journey
• 40:35
  in
• 40:35
  a
• 40:35
  really,
• 40:36
  I
• 40:36
  think
• 40:36
  productive
• 40:37
  and
• 40:37
  helpful
• 40:37
  way
• 40:38
  where
• 40:38
  you
• 40:38
  are
• 40:39
  starting
• 40:39
  to
• 40:39
  anticipate
• 40:40
  hope
• 40:40
  and
• 40:40
  goodness
• 40:41
  even
• 40:41
  though
• 40:41
  maybe
• 40:41
  what
• 40:41
  you've
• 40:42
  just
• 40:42
  faced
• 40:42
  was
• 40:43
  something
• 40:43
  really
• 40:44
  hard
• 40:44
  and
• 40:45
  or
• 40:45
  terrible.
• 40:46
  But
• 40:46
  so
• 40:46
  pick
• 40:46
  up
• 40:46
  this
• 40:46
  book
• 40:47
  if
• 40:47
  you
• 40:47
  want
• 40:47
  to
• 40:48
  start
• 40:48
  to
• 40:48
  see
• 40:48
  good
• 40:49
  things
• 40:49
  on
• 40:49
  the
• 40:49
  other
• 40:50
  side
• 40:50
  of
• 40:50
  something
• 40:50
  hard.
• 40:51
  And
• 40:51
  so
• 40:51
  again,
• 40:52
  it's
• 40:52
  an
• 40:52
  interesting
• 40:52
  genre
• 40:53
  to
• 40:53
  be
• 40:53
  in
• 40:53
  like
• 40:53
  a
• 40:53
  grief
• 40:54
  and
• 40:54
  loss
• 40:54
  category.
• 40:54
  That
• 40:55
  was
• 40:55
  not
• 40:55
  something
• 40:55
  on
• 40:55
  my
• 40:55
  bingo
• 40:56
  card.
• 40:56
  Right.
• 40:56
  Was
• 40:56
  not
• 40:57
  looking
• 40:57
  to
• 40:57
  be
• 40:57
  in
• 40:57
  that
• 40:58
  genre.
• 40:58
  But
• 40:58
  now
• 40:59
  that
• 40:59
  I'm
• 40:59
  in
• 40:59
  it
• 40:59
  and
• 40:59
  in
• 41:00
  that
• 41:00
  space,
• 41:00
  I
• 41:00
  know
• 41:00
  when
• 41:01
  somebody
• 41:01
  picks
• 41:01
  up
• 41:01
  this
• 41:01
  book
• 41:02
  it
• 41:02
  has
• 41:02
  the
• 41:02
  opportunity
• 41:03
  to
• 41:03
  help
• 41:03
  change
• 41:04
  their
• 41:04
  life
• 41:04
  and
• 41:04
  help
• 41:04
  them
• 41:05
  process
• 41:05
  something
• 41:06
  really
• 41:06
  hard.
• 41:07
  Fantastic.
• 41:07
  Thank
• 41:08
  you.
• 41:08
  I
• 41:08
  always
• 41:09
  ask
• 41:09
  this
• 41:09
  question
• 41:10
  and
• 41:10
  you've
• 41:10
  been
• 41:11
  open
• 41:11
  and
• 41:12
  sharing,
• 41:13
  but
• 41:13
  I'm
• 41:13
  curious,
• 41:14
  is
• 41:14
  there
• 41:15
  something
• 41:15
  that
• 41:15
  your
• 41:16
  final
• 41:16
  thoughts
• 41:17
  Is
• 41:17
  there
• 41:17
  something
• 41:17
  you
• 41:17
  said?
• 41:18
  Oh,
• 41:18
  I
• 41:18
  wish
• 41:18
  I
• 41:18
  would
• 41:18
  have
• 41:19
  said
• 41:19
  that.
• 41:19
  Or
• 41:20
  I
• 41:20
  wish
• 41:20
  Rick
• 41:20
  would
• 41:21
  have
• 41:21
  asked
• 41:21
  me
• 41:21
  that
• 41:21
  question,
• 41:22
  Andrea,
• 41:23
  what
• 41:23
  would
• 41:23
  that
• 41:24
  have
• 41:24
  you
• 41:24
  got
• 41:24
  some
• 41:25
  final
• 41:25
  thoughts
• 41:25
  that
• 41:25
  you'd
• 41:26
  like
• 41:26
  to
• 41:26
  share?
• 41:27
  I
• 41:27
  am
• 41:27
  an
• 41:28
  open
• 41:28
  book
• 41:28
  as
• 41:28
  you've
• 41:29
  said,
• 41:29
  so
• 41:29
  it
• 41:29
  is
• 41:29
  interesting
• 41:30
  being
• 41:30
  an
• 41:30
  author.
• 41:31
  I
• 41:31
  think,
• 41:31
  Rick,
• 41:32
  I
• 41:32
  would
• 41:32
  almost
• 41:32
  turn
• 41:32
  the
• 41:33
  table
• 41:33
  on
• 41:33
  you
• 41:33
  is
• 41:33
  just
• 41:34
  you.
• 41:34
  I
• 41:34
  want
• 41:34
  to
• 41:34
  just
• 41:35
  say
• 41:35
  thank
• 41:35
  you
• 41:35
  that
• 41:35
  you
• 41:36
  are
• 41:36
  using
• 41:36
  your
• 41:37
  influence
• 41:37
  and
• 41:37
  your
• 41:38
  experience
• 41:38
  to
• 41:38
  really
• 41:39
  help
• 41:39
  elevate
• 41:40
  other
• 41:40
  people
• 41:40
  around
• 41:40
  you.
• 41:41
  And
• 41:41
  I
• 41:41
  think
• 41:41
  thank
• 41:41
  you.
• 41:42
  That's
• 41:42
  such
• 41:42
  a
• 41:42
  noble
• 41:43
  cause
• 41:43
  and
• 41:43
  something
• 41:44
  so
• 41:44
  it's
• 41:44
  worth.
• 41:45
  I
• 41:45
  just
• 41:45
  want
• 41:45
  to
• 41:45
  express
• 41:46
  thank
• 41:46
  you
• 41:46
  and
• 41:46
  gratitude
• 41:47
  for
• 41:47
  having
• 41:47
  me
• 41:47
  on
• 41:47
  and
• 41:48
  giving
• 41:48
  me
• 41:48
  this
• 41:48
  space
• 41:49
  to
• 41:49
  share
• 41:49
  my
• 41:49
  story.
• 41:50
  That
• 41:50
  is
• 41:50
  such
• 41:50
  a
• 41:50
  gift
• 41:50
  and
• 41:51
  a
• 41:51
  lovely
• 41:51
  thing
• 41:51
  that
• 41:51
  you've
• 41:51
  given
• 41:52
  to
• 41:52
  me.
• 41:52
  So
• 41:52
  I
• 41:53
  just
• 41:53
  want
• 41:53
  to
• 41:53
  say
• 41:53
  thank
• 41:53
  you.
• 41:54
  Thank
• 41:54
  you,
• 41:55
  Andrea.
• 41:56
  I
• 41:56
  want
• 41:57
  to
• 41:57
  thank
• 41:57
  you
• 41:57
  so
• 41:57
  much
• 41:58
  for
• 41:58
  being
• 41:58
  a
• 41:58
  guest
• 41:59
  on
• 41:59
  Adventures
• 41:59
  in
• 42:00
  the
• 42:00
  Heart
• 42:00
  of
• 42:00
  Children's
• 42:00
  Book
• 42:01
  Authors.
• 42:01
  Your
• 42:02
  generosity
• 42:02
  of
• 42:02
  time,
• 42:03
  time
• 42:03
  and
• 42:04
  wisdom,
• 42:05
  it's
• 42:05
  just
• 42:05
  been
• 42:05
  fantastic.
• 42:06
  I
• 42:07
  know
• 42:07
  that's
• 42:07
  gonna
• 42:07
  benefit
• 42:08
  a
• 42:08
  lot
• 42:08
  of
• 42:08
  people
• 42:08
  and
• 42:09
  that's
• 42:09
  comes
• 42:10
  down.
• 42:10
  I
• 42:11
  love
• 42:11
  your
• 42:11
  word
• 42:11
  of
• 42:11
  hope
• 42:12
  because
• 42:12
  there's
• 42:12
  always
• 42:13
  lots
• 42:13
  of
• 42:13
  hope
• 42:14
  in
• 42:14
  the
• 42:14
  world
• 42:14
  if
• 42:14
  you
• 42:14
  look
• 42:15
  around
• 42:15
  and
• 42:16
  I
• 42:16
  really
• 42:16
  appreciate
• 42:17
  that.
• 42:17
  The
• 42:18
  other
• 42:18
  thing
• 42:18
  that
• 42:18
  we'll
• 42:18
  do
• 42:19
  for
• 42:19
  the
• 42:19
  listeners
• 42:20
  is
• 42:20
  we'll
• 42:20
  make
• 42:20
  sure
• 42:21
  that
• 42:21
  all
• 42:21
  the
• 42:22
  social
• 42:22
  media
• 42:23
  links
• 42:24
  and
• 42:24
  you
• 42:25
  and
• 42:26
  any
• 42:26
  other
• 42:26
  resources
• 42:27
  you
• 42:27
  mentioned,
• 42:28
  we'll
• 42:28
  make
• 42:28
  sure
• 42:28
  they
• 42:28
  get
• 42:28
  in
• 42:28
  the
• 42:29
  show
• 42:29
  notes
• 42:29
  and
• 42:29
  thank
• 42:30
  you.
• 42:30
  The
• 42:30
  other
• 42:31
  thing
• 42:31
  that
• 42:31
  I
• 42:31
  want
• 42:32
  to
• 42:32
  say
• 42:32
  to
• 42:32
  people,
• 42:33
  feel
• 42:33
  free
• 42:34
  to
• 42:35
  share
• 42:35
  this
• 42:36
  episode
• 42:37
  with
• 42:37
  anyone
• 42:37
  who
• 42:38
  you
• 42:38
  think
• 42:38
  will
• 42:38
  be
• 42:39
  inspired
• 42:40
  or
• 42:40
  enjoys
• 42:41
  hearing
• 42:41
  about
• 42:42
  Andrea
• 42:42
  and
• 42:43
  her
• 42:43
  children's
• 42:43
  book
• 42:44
  Hope
• 42:44
  is
• 42:45
  a
• 42:45
  Blanket.
• 42:45
  So
• 42:46
  thank
• 42:46
  you,
• 42:46
  Andrea.
• 42:47
  Thanks,
• 42:47
  Rick.