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Jason Kreis on the World Cup semifinals, England vs Argentina rivalry, RSL vs Burnley club friendly tonight in Sandy + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: We're trying to track down Jason Christ. Beer Bar has
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  Speaker 3: been kind enough to sponsor all of our World Cup
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  Speaker 3: talk throughout this tournament. Great place for you to go
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  Speaker 3: watch the Argentina England semi final. Another fun thing here.
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  Speaker 3: Argentina decided, you know what, let's make it. Let's petition
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  Speaker 3: FIFA and let's see if we can wear our away
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  Speaker 3: kits for this game. Argentina's away kits are the dark blued.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know why they want to wear those? Because
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  Speaker 3: the best moments of Argentine football against England, including the
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  Speaker 3: Hand of God game, guess what color they were wearing.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. It's a real rivalry.
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  Speaker 3: Jason Christ kind enough to step on with us and
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  Speaker 3: talk a little RSL return against Burnley FC, and of
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  Speaker 3: course some World Cup Jason Christ, how are you, sir?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Thanks for having to be honest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, glad to have you on.
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  Speaker 3: I spent the first half hour of the show just
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  Speaker 3: ranting about the crazy history in this Argentina England World
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  Speaker 3: Cup rivalry. Not because I was raised in it, and
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  Speaker 3: not because I know all that much about it, but
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  Speaker 3: because the reporting on it and the fact that we
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  Speaker 3: get this matchup educated me to the intensity of it
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  Speaker 3: and how incredible the history is and how nuanced some
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  Speaker 3: of it is, and you know, it goes well beyond
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  Speaker 3: the pitch for a lot of people. And so I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to ask you your favorite rivalry that you played in,
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  Speaker 3: that you coached in, that you have administered over whatever,
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  Speaker 3: your favorite soccer rivalry and why it mattered so much
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  Speaker 3: to you.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously that's some really good blood. Starting out
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  Speaker 2: as a player in Dallas for a strange reason, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not pactic sure why, but Chicago was our biggest rivalry
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  Speaker 2: every single game, like it had so much motion in it.
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  Speaker 2: The fans in Chicago were some of the meetings out there,
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  Speaker 2: So I have a lot of memories of being called
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  Speaker 2: a lot of creative names in Chicago. Then as a coach,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Colorado was a big rival or of ours,
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  Speaker 2: but I would say we had more meaningful games against
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  Speaker 2: the Galaxy, So I think, you know, as the history
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  Speaker 2: of coaching here, that would have to be a big Briberry.
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  Speaker 2: They just had a fan. The US Mexico rivalry is
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  Speaker 2: actually it's a gigantic ones and a lot of hatred
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  Speaker 2: there between those two teams and a lot of fighting
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  Speaker 2: and his fighting. It's just crazy things that happen in
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  Speaker 2: all those games.
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  Speaker 3: So what are your thoughts on Argentina England today? It's
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  Speaker 3: been what it's been twenty four years, I think since
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  Speaker 3: these two teams have met up with anything close to
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  Speaker 3: this level of consequence, and you know, Messi on one side,
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  Speaker 3: Cain and Bellingham and those guys on the other.
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  Speaker 1: How do you see today's semi final playing out?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's one's gonna be as intriguing
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  Speaker 2: as yesterday's. You know, I think that this this final
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  Speaker 2: four of this World Cup, it's absolutely fantastic And you
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  Speaker 2: kind of alluded to or think about golf when you
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  Speaker 2: go to that final day and if you've got five
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  Speaker 2: of the top ten in the world fighting for the
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  Speaker 2: leader board, it reminds me of that these are these
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  Speaker 2: are four powerhouses in the world. Game happened for a
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  Speaker 2: long time, really that in the history of the game,
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  Speaker 2: all four a powerhouses. It's such today's game I think
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  Speaker 2: should be great for that. The thing that I think
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  Speaker 2: about is like Gagland and Argentina arguably are two of
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  Speaker 2: the most soccer trades in the world, the most pashion
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  Speaker 2: is safe, and you go to the game in either
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  Speaker 2: one of those places, you could really feel the energy
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  Speaker 2: of the passion coming out of the fair groups. And
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  Speaker 2: so I think the absolutely exciting and entertaining games.
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  Speaker 1: World Cup in general.
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  Speaker 3: We've talked about it a little bit, and when you
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  Speaker 3: joined me, I don't know, a couple of weeks ago,
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  Speaker 3: maybe a week ago, we talked about the context of
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  Speaker 3: the North America hosting this thing and and Team USA
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  Speaker 3: and all that, and this was the last time we
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  Speaker 3: had a conversation, right uh, the exit looming and the
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  Speaker 3: Balligan situation and all that. Now the narrative around US
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  Speaker 3: men's national team is one of are we developing the
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  Speaker 3: right way?
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  Speaker 1: Is our youth soccer system? Correct?
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  Speaker 3: I have young kids who are like at the very
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  Speaker 3: very beginning in women's soccer and girls soccer, of like
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  Speaker 3: kind of exploring this. My wife was a college soccer player,
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  Speaker 3: and she's like, no, it's this is exactly what it is.
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  Speaker 3: It's club teams and things like that. So I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to do the very unfair thing right now, Jason christ
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  Speaker 3: and I'm going to say, I give you a totally
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  Speaker 3: blank slate on American soccer and from the youth movement
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  Speaker 3: all the way up to what I think is a
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  Speaker 3: very successful model that we've seen with RSL, with the
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  Speaker 3: academy developing professional talent. How do you make the US
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  Speaker 3: men's national team as dominant as some of these Argentina, England, Spain,
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  Speaker 3: France type squads.
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  Speaker 2: You giving me a blank check book as well?
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  Speaker 1: I am yes, if that's what it takes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think if we were to just
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  Speaker 2: say our objective is that to try to lead a
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  Speaker 2: World Cup, I think we probably would start by saying
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  Speaker 2: we to get rid of the paper play model. And
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  Speaker 2: that's what That's what happens to other cout traes, you know,
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  Speaker 2: kids another cut traes that want to play soccer at
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  Speaker 2: any level really can find a community resource that is
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  Speaker 2: funded by the community, that can play for free, essentially.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that we have taken a major step
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  Speaker 2: towards that in that all of the MLS teams now
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  Speaker 2: have academy teams, and all of the unalysts academy teams.
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  Speaker 2: They do not require the parents to pay a dime
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  Speaker 2: for that. So the ownership of our MLS teams has
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  Speaker 2: taken on a tremendous amount of the burden for the
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  Speaker 2: development of young players in our country. I would call
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  Speaker 2: to arms US Soccer because US Soccer does not spend
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  Speaker 2: a majority of that money on development with young players.
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  Speaker 2: US Soccer funds they like the national teams, but they
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  Speaker 2: are not reaching back to MLS say we would like
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  Speaker 2: to also help him with the funding in other countries
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  Speaker 2: like England, and I went to England over the winter
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  Speaker 2: this year to talk to them about their academy system,
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  Speaker 2: their SA, their Football Association. Basically, it gives a kickback
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  Speaker 2: to any club that takes their development and their young
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  Speaker 2: players very seriously. If the club's academy is seen to
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  Speaker 2: give a certain level, that the SA kicks back money
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  Speaker 2: to those clubs and it's part and parcel of the
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  Speaker 2: development of those players. So I think there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of co operation collaboration that still needs to happen in
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  Speaker 2: our country. But I do think I would repeat I
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  Speaker 2: think the MLS teams are doing a very nice job
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  Speaker 2: of taking a step in the right direction.
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  Speaker 3: I can't imagine why there would be. I mean, unless
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  Speaker 3: it's a lack of resources for US soccer itself, why
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  Speaker 3: they wouldn't want to follow the model of you know,
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  Speaker 3: like you just mentioned England, because I imagine then you know,
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  Speaker 3: if that kickback is coming, then the clubs themselves and
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  Speaker 3: the youth development system themselves, they're incentivized to do better, right,
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  Speaker 3: to be better so that they qualify for that kickbacks.
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  Speaker 3: It just feels it's intuitively, it makes a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 1: Even for a non soccer guy, It.
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  Speaker 2: Makes a ton of sense in my mind. What it does.
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  Speaker 2: It also allows he was soccer to now have a
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  Speaker 2: hand in the development of those players. Right. They can
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  Speaker 2: set standards that hold the amass academies to those standards
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  Speaker 2: and say, if you don't meet these standards, then we
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  Speaker 2: won't be helping you to fund your academy because it's
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  Speaker 2: not at the level that it needs to be. Now
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  Speaker 2: they're involved. Now we're collaborating. Now we're communicating about these
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  Speaker 2: young players that we're developing, hopefully to become future US
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  Speaker 2: Smith's national team stars.
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  Speaker 3: I've given you a blank checkbook and a blank slate,
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  Speaker 3: and part of that is you've got to decide with
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  Speaker 3: Mauricio Poschattino at the end of his contract, if you
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  Speaker 3: know you retain him and uh, and he is the
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  Speaker 3: guy to lead this men's national team moving forward, what
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  Speaker 3: would you do on that front?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, this is a really difficult decision, and I would
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  Speaker 2: I would give I would give an opinion two ways. Opinions.
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  Speaker 2: Number one would say that a coach of a national
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  Speaker 2: team needs more than two years to sort of complete
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  Speaker 2: his pathway, his journey with the team. And so from
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  Speaker 2: that perspective, if I would want to air on, let's
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  Speaker 2: get this guy another four years. But from the perspective
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  Speaker 2: of what I see as a soccer person, an actual
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  Speaker 2: playing on the field under him, I can't say that
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  Speaker 2: I'm pleased. I am not a fan of what I
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  Speaker 2: see with the team. I am a fan of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: all the emotion and passion and went into this World Cup.
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  Speaker 2: I am a fan of what this team was able
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  Speaker 2: to give this country this World Cup. But tactically, I
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  Speaker 2: just don't see it en up there. I want to
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  Speaker 2: see us take the next step. I want to see
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  Speaker 2: us play with a real clear identity with how we're
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  Speaker 2: trying to score goals, with how and where we're trying
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  Speaker 2: to defend I just want to see more. So I
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  Speaker 2: give you both sides of the offense. There. I apologize
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  Speaker 2: for that.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's good because it gives me the whole picture.
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  Speaker 3: Jason Price is our guest here on the Sean O'Connors.
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  Speaker 3: So we're talking about the World Cup. We'll get to
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  Speaker 3: some RSL. And look, my hope was, and I know
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  Speaker 3: your hope was, and a lot of people here in
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  Speaker 3: Salt Lake City the hope was there would have been
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  Speaker 3: an RSL element. As we watched this US men's national team,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it felt like Diego Luna was gonna make
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  Speaker 3: the squad, that Gozo had a chance making the squad.
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  Speaker 3: Of course we've already talked about this. Neither guy ends
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  Speaker 3: up on the squad. And through group play I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: well I don't really know what I'm talking about. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, things worked out right. You won the group
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  Speaker 3: and you beat Bosnia and it's like, all right, so
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  Speaker 3: maybe for lack of a better tribute, didn't need those guys.
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  Speaker 3: And then and then against Belgium, you see a team
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  Speaker 3: that comes out kind of flat. And I'm not saying
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  Speaker 3: that Diego Luna or Gozo or anyone would have been
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  Speaker 3: the ultimate solution for that. But when Burhalter gets subbed in,
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  Speaker 3: there's like at least a little life there, and there's like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a little injection of energy, and it's like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 3: maybe this this is the place where a moon man
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  Speaker 3: would have been the perfect fit for this unspin's national team.
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  Speaker 3: And I wonder if you watching that Belgium game had
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  Speaker 3: any of those same.
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  Speaker 2: Thoughts one thousand percent. You know again, I would say
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  Speaker 2: if you went to the Australia game. Actually got to
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  Speaker 2: go to that game live, but what a great experience.
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  Speaker 2: So thankful to my ownership group for taking me. But
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  Speaker 2: you saw a team in Australia that was also sitting back,
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  Speaker 2: very deep. It was difficult to break down. It's those
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  Speaker 2: kind of games. And in the second half against Belgium,
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  Speaker 2: they didn't need to do anything other than just make
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  Speaker 2: sure we didn't create any real good goal scoring chances.
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  Speaker 2: It's those kind of games where you need a Luna
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  Speaker 2: who wants to receive the ball between the lines between
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  Speaker 2: their back four and their midfield four, wants to turn
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  Speaker 2: and to go at players to make combinations and goals
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  Speaker 2: scoring chances happen. And I think, you know, you just
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  Speaker 2: looked at the substitutions that were made in that game.
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  Speaker 2: He ended up with four central I would call it
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  Speaker 2: more defensive central midfield players on the field all at once.
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  Speaker 2: And so again like does he not have that player
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  Speaker 2: in his roster? I would argue that he did, maybe
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  Speaker 2: one or two of the players, but he certainly didn't
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  Speaker 2: seek the trust him because he didn't put him on.
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  Speaker 2: And Luna has shown in the past year and a
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  Speaker 2: half that he's played capable of doing those six at
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  Speaker 2: that level. So I think there was a perhabsol loot
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  Speaker 2: an argument for his inclusion in that group and his
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  Speaker 2: playing and that's sort of game.
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  Speaker 3: Well, good news for all the oursel fans out there
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  Speaker 3: is you don't have to wait any longer for Diego
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  Speaker 3: Luna because you've got a friendly against Burnley FC at
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  Speaker 3: America First Field tonight. It's the first game since May
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  Speaker 3: twenty third. Again, the last time you were on, we
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  Speaker 3: talked a little bit about what these guys have been
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  Speaker 3: up to, and you know, your your eyes on.
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  Speaker 1: So what should we expect?
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  Speaker 3: Is this a club that is in full form and
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  Speaker 3: ready to hit the ground running even in a friendly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean essentially, what we're what we're at is
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  Speaker 2: We're at the end of a second preseason and so
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  Speaker 2: the guys have been working extremely hard. They had a
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  Speaker 2: friendly game up in Minnesota last week. We played a
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  Speaker 2: game against Nashville a couple of weeks ago. There has
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  Speaker 2: been sort of match like minutes for the players who
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: are rounding it to four. I didn't see him playing
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  Speaker 2: against Minnesota, so I'll play the week before and I
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: was very happy with where the level was, and so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: really interesting to see how the night goes for people
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: that don't know this is a friendly, But this is
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: going to be more than just a normal friendly because
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: it's our last opportunity to get our guys out there
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  Speaker 2: and get it ready for next week's game at l AFC.
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  Speaker 2: So we will be playing our strongest lineup for the
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: majority of this game. It's if they're fans out there
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  Speaker 2: that have been a little hesitant about buying tickets, I
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: would say get those tickets bought, come get a look
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  Speaker 2: at at this do fresh and hungry RSL and it's
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: ready to start the second half of this season.
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  Speaker 3: It'll be next Wednesday for the return of MLS actual
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: play against LAFC. And obviously you're kind of rounding after
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  Speaker 3: the international break. You're heading into this second half of
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  Speaker 3: the season in a really good position, third in the
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  Speaker 3: West right now, and you know, is this where you
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  Speaker 3: expected the team to be? The MLS season is such
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  Speaker 3: a marathon. Is this kind of where you thought, you know,
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  Speaker 3: maybe you would be after this international break?
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  Speaker 2: Frankly and honestly, this is well ahead of where I'm
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  Speaker 2: not this take would be. I was preaching to ownership
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  Speaker 2: and other folks that would listen, saying at the beginning
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  Speaker 2: of the season for all that it need to be
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  Speaker 2: real patient here. They've got so many new pieces and
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: trying to put this all together is going to take time.
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  Speaker 2: And it's definitely got the exact opposite. But we had
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  Speaker 2: a really nice start to the StatesOn. The team has
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  Speaker 2: come together so quickly. All of our new players are
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: new signings, a major contribution to the very positive way
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  Speaker 2: and the first half of the season. So we feel
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  Speaker 2: real good about where we're at. And now the messages
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  Speaker 2: can we push on, can we take a good beginning
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  Speaker 2: of the season, They push on and approve and finish
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  Speaker 2: really strongly and then see if they can't make for
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  Speaker 2: the playoff run.
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  Speaker 3: On the women's side in WSL side. The Royals are
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  Speaker 3: back in action. A couple of losses on the bounce,
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  Speaker 3: now tough one against Chicago. I was there for the
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  Speaker 3: three to one loss to Gotham on Friday, and then
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  Speaker 3: it's Orlando coming in to America First Field on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: So how do they get back on the right track
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's a very similar. I would actually
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  Speaker 2: say they've had a better start to their season than
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: our itself. Going into the break. We finished I think
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: tied for second or third place in the entire league.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: So on a really really positive first of the opening
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: stands and let's call it to the season. They've come
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: back after a break and they unfortunately, we find a
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: couple of really key injuries. Our two Japanese players began
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: to knock off and Miai both picked up injuries on
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: international duties, and we're missing two important players there. Page
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Cronin picked up an injury actually just before the break,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: and she's coming back from injury. And then a really
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: important player for us k O real central defender, has
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: picked up an injury, but she's not coming back as well.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: And so when you miss those important pieces and they
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: think there's some other things about you know, coaching staff
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: was missing and kind of the break was not handled
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: the most perfect and smooth way by our group, and
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: that led to a couple of slips in the last
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: two games. But we've got an opportunity to speeknd against
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Orlando at home to right some of those wrongs, as
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: well as having players coming back from injury. So we
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: all still feel really positive about the Royals season so
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: far and how we think we could end this season.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: We were in the building, my family and I came
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: to the three to one Gotham game and the I
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: will say this, the Drone Show was a big hit
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: in the O'Connell household.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: On Princess Knight, that was that was elite.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: What's the Drones Show better than the Princesses?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Well, that was I thought they were both great.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: But I'm going off the opinions of a seven year old,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: a four and a half year old, and a two
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: year old. It seems like the Drone Show was the
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: big hit.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, always wise to follow their opinions.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: We will see you tonight, or at least I hope
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: I will see you tonight. Also coming down to check
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: out ourself versus Burnley so appreciate your time today and
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: hopefully I get to chat with you later.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: You betcha thanks again for having me.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: That's Chasing Christ, president of soccer operations for RSL and
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: for Royals in the NWSL. Burnley FC coming into America
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: first field tonight. JJ Watt is allegedly going to be
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: there with his wife, who is from the Sandy Draper.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: He is, of course one of the co owners of
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: this team, alongside