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#199 – Did Con Air age well? (w/ Miriam Moreno) · Did That Age Well?

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  And now his name is spelled. His full name is spelled Jerome.
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  Do we think it's Jerome or Jeremy spelled a weird way?
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  Wait, Jeremy Bruckheimer? Jerry, but like his full name is
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  Jerome. Oh, Jeremy.
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  Do we think it's or is it? Jerome, Jeremy or his name?
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  Jerome. That's not real.
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  Not a white guy. OK, next.
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  What's your next one? No next.
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  Hi everybody, welcome to did that age Well, the podcast that
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  is, that took years off and is back at it again.
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  Not really, but in the spiritual sense of we've been waiting for
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  since the beginning of his podcast to talk about Con Air.
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  And thank God we have Miriam Moreno here to do it.
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  Miriam, welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much for having me.
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  Is this a highly requested episode?
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  It is a highly requested episode.
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  This is part of our Nicolas Cage series.
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  I agree. So go do that and set up your
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  move. Miriam, what the heck is going
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  on with you? Nothing.
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  OK, girl, in relation to I don't.
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  I mean cinema. Cinema.
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  I'm in the cinemas. And she's an AMC A Lister.
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  AMC Guess what? I recruited 2 friends to our
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  entourage. Well, including you.
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  Yeah, OK, to my entourage. So now I have three people in my
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  entourage. Wow, is it me, Jacob and Nick?
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  No, Nick won't. He has Alamo even though they're
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  on strike. Oh.
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  Crossing the Crossing the picket line like a pig.
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  Wow, Nick is so problematic. And I've always said that a lot
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  of people have. Yeah, totally.
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  You, man. Alamo Drafthouse.
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  Boo. I've said it.
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  I mean, I've said it once on this podcast, and I'll say it
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  again. They used to have this amazing
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  sweet potato bowl on their menu. Never heard of it.
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  It was so good. I would go to Alamo specifically
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  for that dish. And one day I went to a movie.
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  I was having a tough day and I had been.
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  I was 15 minutes late to the movie, which of course meant I
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  was 15 minutes early to the movie because it was just a
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  previews. Yeah.
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  A woman outside said not like outside, but one of those
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  workers which we support workers.
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  I'm on the side of the workers. This specific person really
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  pissed me the fuck off 'cause she said, oh, you're more than
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  15 minutes late. I'm gonna have to ask my manager
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  if we can let you in. I've never experienced that and
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  I've been late so many times. And so then I had to wait like 5
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  minutes for her to go get permission for me to go in.
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  I go in. I'm so excited to have my sweet
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  potato bowl. I sit down.
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  They've changed the menu. So I order.
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  I order like an Impossible or Beyond Meat burger, whichever
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  one of you wants to sponsor. This podcast is the one that I
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  ordered. Beef or no beef?
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  Whichever 1. Whichever 1.
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  And they definitely brought me a beef burger because I did not
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  feel good. I shit my pants every single
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  time I get a burger there and I still get a burger there every
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  single time. Can't stop, won't stop.
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  You can't stop her, but she is not going there right now.
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  Not right now. Because guess what?
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  We don't want everything to be with AQR code.
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  They have that message at the beginning of their movies.
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  That's like if you ever don't ever get your phone out, you
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  will be there will be hell to pay of this theater.
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  And then they're like, except if you're ordering on AQR code.
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  Before or after? During the movie.
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  That's it. That's it, that's it.
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  It reminds me a lot those like pre trailer videos that they
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  have kind of the the informational fear of God kind
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  of videos. It reminds me a lot of the You
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  wouldn't steal, you wouldn't DVD.
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  You wouldn't download a car? Yes, I would you.
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  Wouldn't order a pizza. You wouldn't order a burger.
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  I would actually, but I wouldn't because I wouldn't go there for
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  that anyway. So AMC Stubs, AMC Theatres, if
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  you want to sponsor this show. Oh my God, that would be sick.
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  And imagine it would be huge for us.
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  If you are on AMCA list, get in the comments so we can add you
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  to the Entourage if you're cool. What if you do a field trip?
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  All my, all my, all my listeners who are AMC Stubs members, We're
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  having a did that age well field trip to watch the drama, the
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  drama for the third time. Here's the thing about the
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  drama. OK, I know that's not what we're
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  here to talk about. It aged.
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  Perfectly in a. Week.
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  I saw it two weeks ago. No notes.
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  Just kidding. I do actually.
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  I do have notes. And it's that we needed more
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  about the characters. I didn't know anything about
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  these people except for the one huge thing that she didn't do
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  when she was in high school. And we're not going to spoil it
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  on this podcast, but I will say that I didn't think it was that
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  bad. She didn't do it.
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  She. Didn't do it.
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  She didn't do it. And maybe it's just because I
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  hang out with a lot of like, mentally ill people.
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  Like people that shouldn't have, like, guns.
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  Yeah, probably. You just run the whole movie.
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  I won't run the movie. All I'll say is.
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  She didn't kill anyone. She didn't.
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  She didn't do it. It's not a big.
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  Deal. Everyone relaxed.
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  The thing that that other girl did that the Heim sister did way
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  worse. Way worse.
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  She actually did the thing. Yeah.
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  Also, I was thinking about I I've been talking about it
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  non-stop, but she was just like at first she was like, they were
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  like, did they find him? She's like, I don't know.
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  And then she said a story and I was like, that was a lie.
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  He's dead. Yeah, that guy is still there.
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  His body's still there. Yeah.
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  And if you haven't seen the drama, sorry.
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  Oh, she was so good. Such a good villain.
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  Yes, she is ever. Everyone knows her.
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  Everyone knows her in real life. OK, so anyway, if you were
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  skipping ahead, come back in, come on back because today we
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  were, we were going to discuss another Nick Cage film today.
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  And then Miriam said hold on a minute, we need to discuss con
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  air. And I said you betcha.
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  And I want to know why you chose this movie.
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  OK I came out in 1997. I was impressionable 9 years
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  old. We bought our movies on VHS and
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  we had so few. I rewatched this, I'm not
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  kidding you. Every other day we.
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  Watched con air con air girl. Because it was like whatever my
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  stepdad got and he was like Air Force One con Air Independence
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  Day alien, which I never saw because I was like.
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  Too scary, you said. You said that's too scary.
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  If it's too scary, it's too scary.
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  If it's just in the air but still within Earth.
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  I'll take it. Yeah.
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  Yeah, so it was a lot of like, Action Air Force One, another
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  incredible film. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Where Russia was the bad guys a
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  lot. Yeah.
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  Yeah. This one loved it.
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  And the song, I think made it so much more like, I don't know, my
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  cousins and I were singing it non-stop all the time, so.
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  Wow. And so so you said I need a
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  return to this stable of my childhood.
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  I took a break because obviously you can't watch Conair every day
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  of your life. You can only watch it every
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  other day. Every other day, but yeah.
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  I mean, I outgrew watching those movies every day, but now?
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  Outgrew Conair, she said. It's too immature.
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  I have to say I was nine years old when I came out.
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  I did not understand a lot of the subtext of what was
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  happening. Or maybe not even the subtext,
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  maybe just the text. Just the text.
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  Yeah, I didn't understand that, and I rewatched it for this.
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  Whoa. Not for a nine year.
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  Old, I tell you, I'll tell you that.
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  What do you think is more inappropriate for a nine year
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  old casino or go on air? I don't think any of it is
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  appropriate. Probably not.
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  Casino is more inappropriate, I think so 'cause Connor had a lot
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  of jokes. Had a lot of jokes.
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  Yeah, it was kind of funny. Yeah, yeah.
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  And the drug stuff was a lot more what drug problem in casino
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  I mean. Was there any drug stuff in
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  Connor? No, exactly.
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  Now that we saw, yeah, I mean, one could infer.
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  Insulin is a controlled substance, so.
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  Maybe so true, So true. Yeah, casino's way more
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  inappropriate. Yeah, this is basically, this is
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  basically Sesame Street compared to a casino.
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  No, it's not. It's definitely inappropriate
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  for kids. But I'm, I'm curious, what are
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  your thoughts on Nicolas Cage just kind of as a figure, as an
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  actor, as a meme, all of it. I don't know his lore as far as
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  like, if he's a bad person. Sure.
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  I didn't look into that. I just know he's like, he went
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  broke a little bit. He took a couple rolls just to
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  pay the bills. And his tombstone in New Orleans
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  is paid off. Yeah.
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  Which is a pyramid. Yeah.
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  Which is pretty sick. Huge.
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  Yeah, it's huge, actually huge. It's really big.
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  You see a picture and you go, oh, OK, so it's just like a
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  little thing. No, you got to see it to scale.
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  It's. Giant.
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  It's giant. And then he also, like, lived in
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  a haunted house in New Orleans. Yeah, he loves New Orleans.
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  He loves haunted. Stuff he loved, Yeah.
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  Yeah. I think he did National treasure
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  because it was like, mysterious, spooky.
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  Like he did it for the love of. Yeah.
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  For the love of, like, history and like, totally.
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  Yeah. Not for a paycheck.
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  That wasn't a paycheck. That was a plus.
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  Yeah, totally. I do love him in National
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  Treasure, of course. I do really like him, I think,
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  yeah. Me too, I also love why.
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  What have you heard? What?
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  What have you heard? What are the allegations?
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  What does he say about me? Because did he say something
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  about me? I I also love Nicolas Cage.
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  I love him in a way that is like both, both just as like a
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  fascination and also I think every crazy choice he makes is
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  so funny. And I just wish like he the love
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  that he has for acting and committing to doing just crazy
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  stuff makes me wish that I loved anything that much.
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  You know what I mean? Like I wish that happened.
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  Anything like that made me feel as alive as it makes him feel.
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  Yeah. So that is my you know, that's
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  why we are doing this homage to Nicage Cage.
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  Yes, caged up. Does he have kids?
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  Yes. I don't know anything about him
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  personally and I almost feel like that's better but there's a
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  lot I just can't imagine him with kids.
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  I just assume he has a shit ton of money.
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  He buys weird shit and that made him go broke, which it did.
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  Which it did, but. Like Can you imagine being his
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  kid Girl no. Absolutely not.
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  Yeah, my dad has like a pyramid and.
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  Yeah, Can you imagine if your your dad bought a pyramid just
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  for himself and not for like your mom and you and.
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  No one else. Just just kind of for you and
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  you're like, so where am I supposed to go when I die?
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  He's probably said it's not my problem.
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  Yeah, probably. I'm out of here with my Conair
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  money. Yeah, yeah, as he should be.
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  So I watched the Alabama Solution a day before I watched
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  this, and that was tough. It's back-to-back.
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  Yeah, back-to-back tough. I watched OK, so I watched Face
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  Off, then I watched the next day I watched The Alabama Solution,
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  and then the next day I watched Conair and, you know, prison
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  stuff. Pretty fucked up.
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  Yeah, I know that's gonna be a hot.
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  Take nobody's A lot of your listeners are like, no, they're
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  like, we're building another prison here.
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  I love prisons. Yeah.
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  This movie had everything like the healthcare system issues,
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  Prison Reform, veterans, veterans, diabetes, Yeah,
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  healthcare in general. Yeah, sorry, that's.
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  In. Healthcare also issues about the
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  timeline of like when Monica Potter got pregnant but like
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  whatever how did he get into? So he comes home.
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  He comes home from what? From what?
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  From war? I guess I don't what year is it?
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  What war? What?
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  It was 1997 and. He comes in on a boat.
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  It was 1997, so like maybe 1990. So like maybe, maybe like, but
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  then like Gulf. His.
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  Gulf of War. Persian Gulf War.
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  Oh, I don't know. I don't know.
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  I don't know that one. I don't know every war.
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  Oh, so you love war? Name every.
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  War you love war you think we're we should go to war and.
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  Name all the wars. I don't know what war but like
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  if he was on the Conair in 97 then it would have been like 89
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  because his kid was 8 right? So his kid was 7.
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  His kid was 8 girl, that kid looks 6 and she, she was
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  pregnant when? Yeah, two weeks before he got
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  there. So he 'cause she had her stomach
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  was flat as fuck. Flat as a board.
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  Here's the thing. I don't see.
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  Were we meant to? Were we meant to believe when he
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  pulled up to the bar where she works from a boat?
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  Was he literally coming home from war?
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  Or was he just like in uniform for some like event or whatever?
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  Like he just recently came back. It said he was honorably.
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  Honorably discharged or dishonorably discharged, I
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  think. Honorably.
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  Yeah. Because he is the model
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  prisoner, right? You know that he is.
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  They have made it clear that he's not like these other
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  fucking animals. He's.
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  Trying to come home, come home forever, forever.
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  Except I don't actually think he wanted to go home.
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  He did not want his daughter to visit him in prison, didn't want
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  to meet his daughter because he thought that it would be better
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  to meet her on the Strip of Las Vegas with.
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  Carnage everywhere. Let me tell you something about
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  that. He looked disgusting.
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  He was stinky as fuck. He was crusty as hell.
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  Other people's bodily fluids on him and then.
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  He killed them. Because he killed them.
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  Yeah, at this point, serial killer, Yeah, put him back.
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  Yeah, he's. Just like Buscemi.
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  Also, I didn't understand as a child what Buscemi did.
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  I was just like, this man is like.
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  Mentally, yeah, you're like, he's kind of yeah, like he
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  can't. You can't go to jail for that.
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  But like. They can't make you go to jail
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  for being weird. 'Cause he's not 'cause he's
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  weird, right? But yeah, as an adult I learned,
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  Oh, he's a serial. Killer yeah, no idea the only
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  one who seems to also like have any growth in the film like
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  where he didn't kill that girl and then.
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  Oh no, 'cause she was waving by. She was waving goodbye and then
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  also wasn't he the one at the end of the movie?
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  Who's like in Vegas gambling? OK if he's like serial killer
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  worse than the Mansons. Locked up carnival style.
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  How does nobody recognize him in the casino?
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  He's just poking holes For what? I know if you start pulling the
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  thread, it's. It's all around it's.
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  Kind of like a Sheen shirt. You pick it up and just one
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  thread and it's already disintegrated, so you don't even
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  want to touch. It Jerry Bruckheimer was making
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  Sheehan level films, let it be said.
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  Just let it be said. And yeah, he he did have the
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  most growth. I I don't know why the cops at
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  the end didn't just scoop them all up hungry, hungry hippo
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  style. I didn't like that.
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  I was like, what do you mean you have to like what?
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  No, get them, you know, and then we get a whole another car chase
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  with the motorcycle bikes. I'm getting ahead of myself, but
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  it's. OK, it's hard.
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  Not to billions of dollars spent on chasing Cyrus the virus,
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  Yeah. Billions.
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  Billions ruins the city, Okay, literally like the taxpayers are
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  going to have to pay for this infrastructure and who's?
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  They got was in Vegas. Yeah, honestly, honestly, yeah,
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  yeah. Tourists.
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  Tourists are paying for this thank.
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  God, you know what I found out? They shot it at the Sands
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  Casino, which they were demolishing the next week.
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  Shut up. Well, how perfect is that?
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  Yeah, so they destroyed Wow, you know that was gonna be
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  destroyed. It was gonna be destroyed
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  anyway. That's actually pretty cool.
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  Yeah. I, I love that.
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  It's like when they charge people money to go into those,
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  like, rage rooms where there's like a bunch of stuff that's
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  gonna be like, thrown away anyway and they let you just,
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  like, crush it. They charge you for that?
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  Yeah. They thought of the business.
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  They should charge you for that. Look, they thought of.
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  It Yeah, we should do that, yeah.
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  One day, though. Do you consider this movie a
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  Vegas film or? No, I consider this a plain
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  movie. This is.
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  This is in. The this is in the like the
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  location is plain, even though they do go to other places and
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  most of the even though, yes, like you could argue there are
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  there are car chases, there are fire truck chases.
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  There are you know, there's like helicopter, there's helicopter
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  here, We're there. But this is really I mean, it is
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  con air. It's it's the namesake of air.
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  Is. So I guess air is maybe air was
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  kind of the the setting all along.
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  Shout out to my air signs. Yeah.
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  Oh my God, that's you. That's.
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  Right. I considered it a Vegas movie
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  for the longest time. Would I know?
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  And I think I watching it now, I'm like, it took place in Vegas
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  like the last five minutes. Why did it feel so big?
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  Like it just felt very Vegas. Because so much about Carson
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  City in the last. Yeah, Yeah, it was.
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  And they do spend a lot of time just in the desert.
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  They do, you know, like they're they're just outside of Vegas,
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  right? I mean, that's where they were
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  in the middle of nowhere. Yeah.
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  Right. Carson City Lermer, Lermer,
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  They're. They're they're not that far
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  from Vegas. Yeah, yeah.
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  They really are never that far from their destination at any
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  point in the movie. They're always quite close.
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  It's hard because they make it hard.
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  They really made it harder on themselves.
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  That's so true. So, so Nick Cage's character,
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  Cameron, right? That's his name.
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  Cameron Poe. Cameron Poe from Alabama with an
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  Alabama accent you couldn't believe.
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  I didn't believe. It and you wouldn't believe it
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  and it kind of comes and goes in this way That's really fun.
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  It's too. Thick and then a little thick.
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  Is that what you mean? Or like what's the?
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  I mean, like, it's not consistently thick throughout
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  the whole film. And maybe that's because when he
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  was in prison, he was locked up somewhere else.
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  You know, he's not interacting with like, other people.
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  So maybe there's some sort of like linguistic thing happening?
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  But he was an adult already. You don't really lose your
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  accent as an adult. I don't know.
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  Haven't you met people who like go abroad for a year and come
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  back like Como, say D, say Madonna?
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  Have you ever met Madonna? So.
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  Yeah, the accent was really thick, but I enjoyed it.
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  Oh, me too. There was.
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  Not let me just. Say I'm gonna spend most of this
• 20:50
  episode doing critiquing the movie, but it is also a perfect
• 20:54
  movie and I loved it and I'd give it five stars and I
• 20:56
  wouldn't change a thing. I have to go on lettered box and
• 20:59
  write. Yeah.
• 21:00
  Heartfelt review. I really liked it.
• 21:03
  I was like just as enthralled as I was as a nine year old.
• 21:08
  Absolutely. Now some things some things did
• 21:13
  not age well. And that's exactly why we're
• 21:16
  here when you came to the right place to unpack it, because I
• 21:22
  think the first thing. Well, OK, let let me.
• 21:25
  One thing I'm very excited to get into is the twink, which,
• 21:29
  but we'll get there. Are we allowed to say?
• 21:32
  Molly, according to Brooks Marks, that's a slur.
• 21:36
  Remember that. That's what I'm, that's what I
• 21:38
  mean. I don't want, I would hate for
• 21:40
  Brooks Marks to listen to this. Oh my God, and.
• 21:42
  Then come. For us, Brooks, come on.
• 21:47
  Yeah, we know when Jen Shaw says it.
• 21:50
  And. She means a derogatory.
• 21:52
  She means a derogatory. I simply mean I what?
• 21:55
  Was her name Sally? Sally something Sally.
• 22:00
  I don't remember. You know what I really enjoyed
• 22:02
  about this film? It's a film was at the end of
• 22:07
  the movie, they roll credits, but they everyone's face has
• 22:10
  their name and their character name.
• 22:12
  I was like, bring that back, yes.
• 22:15
  I love that because in a movie like this, when you have so many
• 22:19
  characters doing so many things, which I mean, that's exactly why
• 22:23
  they couldn't give any of these characters depth beyond their
• 22:26
  stereotypes, is because there's just so many of them.
• 22:29
  How could we keep track of people if it wasn't like, OK, so
• 22:32
  like, there's the rapist, there's the murderer, the gay
• 22:36
  one, Yeah. But what are the rapist
• 22:38
  interests aside from raping? Totally.
• 22:40
  We couldn't get into it like. Is it 23 or is it 26?
• 22:44
  No one's Is it 600, he said. Yeah, if they they'd call me
• 22:47
  Johnny 600 if they knew the truth.
• 22:50
  What a line. Danny did not understand that as
• 22:53
  a child. I'll bet you didn't, Danny Trejo
• 22:55
  said on an episode of How Did This Get Made?
• 22:58
  When he was a guest, Paul asked him who, you know, who he was
• 23:04
  most afraid of during the craziness of that time when he
• 23:09
  was on con air with some of the most kooky, just the kookiest
• 23:13
  actors. And you know what?
• 23:15
  He. Said he was scared of them.
• 23:16
  Well, he said John Cusack. He said John Cusack.
• 23:20
  It's something behind the eyes, the.
• 23:21
  Ego on that guy, He's been famous for so long you get
• 23:24
  crazy. You get crazy.
• 23:26
  Anyway, I did kind of love that considering how many cuckoo
• 23:29
  bananas people. Were not John Malkovich that not
• 23:32
  John Malkovich? Can I say?
• 23:34
  Yeah. As a child he was so scary, like
• 23:37
  he no nonsense. Totally shoot you.
• 23:40
  Yeah, now I'm like kind of hot. OK, I'm afraid to say that.
• 23:46
  Disgusted at myself. A lot of the, a lot of the
• 23:49
  people who were supposed to be like monsters, I was like, I
• 23:54
  don't know, they're kind of hot. What about what do you think of
• 23:57
  the swamp? Thing, the swamp driving the
• 24:00
  plane. That was crazy.
• 24:02
  That was crazy. I don't know if.
• 24:04
  I'm attracted. I don't think I'm attracted to
• 24:06
  that, but I'm just saying a lot. Of them, yeah, yeah.
• 24:10
  Yeah, yeah. The hair on Nick Cage, I would
• 24:14
  take him any day with that hair. I know it's gross.
• 24:18
  It's the hairline. I know the hair itself was like
• 24:21
  fluffy curly but like. It starts, it starts way back.
• 24:25
  It's starting like you have a headband on.
• 24:27
  He's making up for what's lacking here.
• 24:31
  Yeah, by growing it out here. And we all know that that's.
• 24:34
  That's also how he meets his daughter.
• 24:36
  Didn't get a haircut. Disgusting.
• 24:37
  Oh my God, so true. He.
• 24:39
  Said I was going to get a haircut.
• 24:40
  I didn't know you could get haircuts in jail.
• 24:43
  Yeah, they have like barbers and stuff.
• 24:45
  Really like a prison Barber. I think, yeah, like prisoners
• 24:49
  can work as barbers. Oh yeah.
• 24:51
  They just don't get paid. I am assuming they get paid like
• 24:55
  pennies for the day. I don't really know.
• 24:58
  I just know that they definitely do have barbers.
• 25:01
  But it's the inmates themselves, right?
• 25:03
  Right. Whoever they trust with the
• 25:05
  Clippers, that's that's a big thing.
• 25:08
  That's huge. OK, so Nick Cage's character,
• 25:11
  Cameron Poe, he he gets into an encounter self-defense situation
• 25:19
  where somebody ends up dead, it's manslaughter and it he gets
• 25:24
  sent to a maximum security prison for seven years supermax
• 25:30
  for. Manslaughter attempt or like
• 25:33
  involuntary too? Yeah.
• 25:35
  But they said at the trial they were like, you know, thing,
• 25:39
  you're like a Ranger. You know, you're a weapon
• 25:43
  yourself. They say he's too powerful, He's
• 25:45
  a weapon himself. As if like as if the court
• 25:49
  system was not favorable to people in the Army.
• 25:52
  Yeah, a lot of these things are unbelievable in this movie.
• 25:55
  The stealing of the plane, like landing in Vegas, the whole
• 25:59
  thing. The biggest thing.
• 26:01
  I didn't believe a judge would go hard this hard on an Army
• 26:06
  person. Totally.
• 26:08
  That's the biggest disbelief, yeah.
• 26:09
  My biggest disbelief is that he didn't want to meet his
• 26:14
  daughter. He's like, I don't want her to
• 26:18
  meet me behind these in this, in this.
• 26:21
  Prison cells, yeah. So are we meant to believe that
• 26:25
  his wife also never visited him or did she just go without the
• 26:29
  kid? I mean there was no chemistry
• 26:32
  when they met up. I'm assuming she didn't go see
• 26:34
  him. She doesn't even remember who he
• 26:36
  is. Who is this man?
• 26:38
  Who's this man landing this plane right now?
• 26:39
  He. Cares more about his cellmate
• 26:43
  than he does about his wife and kid.
• 26:46
  And I'm not saying he should have left the diabetic guy
• 26:48
  behind, but he that's why he stays on the plane.
• 26:51
  He could have gone and just met back up with his family.
• 26:56
  Did we learn what Baby O's crime was?
• 27:00
  No, I don't think so. It was caring too much.
• 27:04
  He was being a good friend. He was being too sweet.
• 27:06
  OK, Speaking of being too sweet and the whole diabetes thing,
• 27:10
  yeah, they bond in the beginning of the film because he gives him
• 27:14
  a snowball candy. Illegal for diabetics.
• 27:18
  Illegal. And I said.
• 27:20
  Another manslaughter charge? Tack it on.
• 27:24
  That's why, that's why it took him seven years to get out of
• 27:27
  prison because he kept murdering people.
• 27:30
  He said, hey, are you diabetic? Oh, I've got a sugar free treat
• 27:34
  for you. Yeah.
• 27:35
  And they? Yeah, I thought it was weird he
• 27:38
  they bonded over snowballs. Yeah, he became best friends,
• 27:41
  baby on him doing laundry. Yeah, I love that friendship.
• 27:44
  That was pretty cute. I do too.
• 27:46
  Yeah, I do too. Aged.
• 27:47
  Well. Yeah.
• 27:50
  Are you supposed to say it after every time?
• 27:52
  After SO and that aged well you can, but you just have to wait
• 27:59
  when you do it. OK, OK, so then we get some
• 28:05
  like. Oh, also she's 2 weeks pregnant
• 28:07
  somehow. Somehow she is 2 weeks pregnant.
• 28:11
  Somehow she knows that she's pregnant.
• 28:13
  And he puts his little ear up to her belly and says, how's my
• 28:18
  baby girl? Here's nothing.
• 28:20
  They know. They know that it's a girl, OK?
• 28:25
  I think that's at least 12 weeks or something.
• 28:27
  Yeah. Stomach flat.
• 28:30
  Just snatched body snatched body tea.
• 28:33
  Snatched Pregnant where? Pregnant who?
• 28:41
  And so, yeah, then he gets in that drunken brawl.
• 28:44
  He goes, they decide, he and his lawyer decide moments before
• 28:47
  they go into trial that he's gonna plead guilty.
• 28:51
  They decide right outside of the courtroom, they say, what are we
• 28:53
  gonna do? And he says, got to plead
• 28:56
  guilty. Can't possibly fight this.
• 28:58
  Can't possibly fight this so he's and he's pleading guilty
• 29:02
  but he's in front of a jerk the whole thing.
• 29:06
  We won't get into minutia. OK, so OK, so he we get this
• 29:14
  like push up montage. He's doing push ups.
• 29:17
  He's doing push ups like upside down.
• 29:19
  He's doing push ups right side up.
• 29:20
  He's doing push ups off this, he's doing push ups off that.
• 29:23
  He's reading. He's making friends with
• 29:25
  diabetics. We don't see the other
• 29:29
  diabetics. Yeah, well, you don't.
• 29:31
  You don't want to know where they ended up.
• 29:33
  I look, I thought the Alabama solution.
• 29:36
  I know about deadly prisons. Oh.
• 29:38
  My God, he's writing letters to his kid who somehow writes
• 29:42
  perfectly in kindergarten and it made me think of the school
• 29:45
  systems now. Like kids going to 3rd grade not
• 29:48
  knowing how to write. This kid was writing in
• 29:50
  kindergarten. Saying we're going to do all the
• 29:52
  things we love to do. We.
• 29:56
  Wow. Yeah.
• 29:58
  So tough. Yeah.
• 30:01
  Wait, did you want that pillow? No.
• 30:02
  OK. Miriam's working on her posture.
• 30:06
  Leave it alone. Leave it alone.
• 30:08
  How? Did you do this?
• 30:11
  OK, so then he gets on this, this plane to go home, transport
• 30:19
  prisoners to transport prisoners.
• 30:22
  His diabetic friend is going to some other prison, right?
• 30:26
  And everyone else, they're kind of, you know, it's other people.
• 30:29
  They're all going to other prisons.
• 30:31
  He's the only one that's like being taken home.
• 30:34
  Yeah, he's like on the way. Yeah, to the drop off I guess.
• 30:38
  I guess so we get introduced to all of these hardened criminals,
• 30:45
  and if it didn't already age bad, this is kind of where where
• 30:50
  it starts. We start to meet some of these
• 30:52
  criminals. And I say that usually I
• 30:56
  wouldn't just refer to people in prison at all as criminals, but
• 31:00
  they're like criminals with a capital C They're like these
• 31:02
  guys. They've all got nicknames
• 31:04
  because they're that infamous. Everybody knows Johnny J.
• 31:08
  Three Cyrus the virus. Totally.
• 31:10
  It's like a Western. It's like it's like wanted dead
• 31:13
  or alive. That's kind of the vibe of all
• 31:16
  of these guys. So they give us the rundown on
• 31:18
  like, you know, all these horrible things that they've
• 31:20
  done and how they're just like crazy monster animals.
• 31:25
  And for some reason, they have like a line of maybe 11:50
• 31:33
  guards in between, like point A to point B, like the, like the
• 31:38
  van to the plane when these men are in shackles.
• 31:44
  Yeah. And they instead of just making
• 31:47
  like moving the car closer to the plane so that they didn't,
• 31:52
  they say no, no, no, we, we got, we got to create jobs here.
• 31:58
  We got to give everyone something to do.
• 31:59
  So we're going to have this, a line of armed guards.
• 32:02
  They're building worlds, is what they're doing, Wally.
• 32:05
  Thank you. OK, film critic here.
• 32:10
  So they have. It's overkill, yeah, yeah.
• 32:15
  So they get on the plane and we meet.
• 32:20
  We meet this ragtag group of guys and I just have to say I
• 32:27
  love John Malkovich so much. He rocks, very cool.
• 32:32
  He's very cool in this movie. Cool as AI don't know what his
• 32:35
  crimes were. He I think he was a a murderer.
• 32:41
  Maybe done, maybe done a lot of stuff.
• 32:43
  There were a lot, a lot of them. There were like they murdered
• 32:45
  this many people, they stole this much stuff and they did
• 32:49
  this, this and this. And then when we have, when we
• 32:53
  have like the gender ambiguous twink, sorry, not a slur.
• 32:59
  When we get introduced to Sally, we don't know what Sally's
• 33:02
  crimes are. We don't know.
• 33:04
  They're just like. Here's the thing to be on that
• 33:08
  right? But one thing that was
• 33:11
  surprising, though, is that they never seemed to make fun of
• 33:14
  Sally. They it.
• 33:17
  Was very inclusive. Pretty inclusive.
• 33:18
  Group they were like and not Sally, and Sally wears dresses
• 33:22
  and nobody, nobody nobody was teasing Sally.
• 33:27
  Nobody made her work because she had to go find a dress, 'cause
• 33:29
  she wanted a dress. Yeah, they're like, that's fine.
• 33:32
  They were like, go ahead. That's fine, you do when.
• 33:33
  You come back, help us if you have time, yeah.
• 33:37
  If if you can. Dig out the plane.
• 33:39
  Yeah. And she said let's offer it,
• 33:43
  man. They said, you know what?
• 33:44
  Yeah, we got it. So that was surprising, despite
• 33:47
  the fact that the depiction of Sally was a little bit, I don't
• 33:51
  know, on the nose. My.
• 33:55
  My main critique was that like, it was as though like, that was
• 34:02
  Sally's crime was just like being.
• 34:05
  Oh, interesting. Because it was like, OK,
• 34:07
  everyone else, it's like this person burglar, this person
• 34:12
  serial killer. Yeah, this person wears a dress.
• 34:19
  And can I say not a crime in some states, in some states now
• 34:25
  1997? They were probably fine.
• 34:28
  Yeah, but not a crime. But you're right.
• 34:30
  I wonder what Sally's. I'd love to get my hands on
• 34:34
  Jerry Bruckheimer's telephone number and.
• 34:37
  Give him a call. I'd love to read Sally's file.
• 34:39
  I'd love you know I have a file. Love to read the court like the.
• 34:44
  Court proceedings? What did they tell the actor who
• 34:47
  played Sally? What was the direction?
• 34:49
  Here's the thing, I think that everybody was coming into work
• 34:52
  with a completely different direction because they said that
• 34:55
  they rewrote the script basically every day that they
• 34:57
  came into work. Oh, fuck.
• 34:59
  And so I think that every single actor came in and said, you know
• 35:04
  what? I want to add a little flavour
• 35:05
  to my character. And then would and then they
• 35:07
  would kind of, yeah, I think. And the and it shows.
• 35:13
  It's not super cohesive. You, I wouldn't call it a
• 35:16
  cohesive movie. Again, would I call it a perfect
• 35:18
  movie? Yes.
• 35:19
  Yeah. But cohesive, No, definitely
• 35:22
  not. Yeah.
• 35:24
  OK, so we also have Dave Chappelle.
• 35:28
  Kind of forgot about him, frankly.
• 35:29
  Absolutely forgot about him. This must have been before Half
• 35:33
  Baked. Yeah, before he got his own
• 35:35
  movie. Because that was like, what, 99
• 35:36
  pinball? Yeah, I think so.
• 35:39
  So he's pinball surprised he didn't have anything to say
• 35:43
  about Sally wearing a dress just saying cancel her.
• 35:49
  Dave Chappelle would be 1 to say something if anyone would So so
• 35:55
  there's there's like a this is a mixed race plate.
• 36:00
  This is a mixed race con air and the the racial politics on the
• 36:09
  plane are insane. Yeah.
• 36:12
  First of all, when they get to what is it, Cedar City or
• 36:16
  whatever? Yeah, OK.
• 36:18
  Carson City, Carson City, They're like, OK, look, they're
• 36:21
  expecting this many white guys and this many black guys as, as
• 36:27
  it's the only thing like the only identifier on their file is
• 36:32
  just like white. They're not going to check their
• 36:36
  faces. They didn't.
• 36:37
  They didn't to be fair. To be fair, they didn't they.
• 36:40
  Could have got some black guys in there because they were, they
• 36:44
  bagged them and tagged them and then they had shackles and they
• 36:47
  had a hand. Yeah.
• 36:50
  Muff. Yeah.
• 36:52
  So I'm like they could have sent anybody.
• 36:53
  They could have sent anybody after all of.
• 36:55
  That you had to be racist about bagging someone's head.
• 36:59
  You didn't have to. I'm not saying like, Oh well,
• 37:01
  they didn't see colour, No, they did.
• 37:03
  But I wouldn't you think that they would?
• 37:05
  No, they literally saw color. They just like physically
• 37:08
  couldn't see. Yeah.
• 37:09
  Exactly. They couldn't 'cause they were
• 37:10
  back. Yeah.
• 37:12
  So many racial digs, racial undertones, Yeah.
• 37:16
  Absolutely. Just you just think about like
• 37:21
  white people writing this and being like, oh, I can't wait to
• 37:25
  unleash my the racist things that I can't say my racial
• 37:30
  wrath. Yeah, yeah, I can't write to
• 37:32
  unleash racism or, you know, sometimes I'm sure there was a
• 37:37
  lot of improv in this movie. Kind of seems like the type of
• 37:40
  movie they're like, yeah, just keep it rolling.
• 37:42
  Between Dave Chappelle and John Malkovich, I feel like there was
• 37:46
  a lot of improv there. I think so too.
• 37:48
  Kind of funny. It's pretty.
• 37:49
  Funny again? Yeah, a perfect movie.
• 37:52
  Made me laugh. Had some really funny stuff.
• 37:57
  So look at that walking penis. Funny.
• 38:00
  And then it got less funny. But the racism but but funny. 01
• 38:06
  thing OK one I-1 Dick I really liked it was I don't know who
• 38:11
  asked PO this but he was like do you know what I am?
• 38:14
  He was ugly all day. Come on.
• 38:19
  That is so funny. Read him.
• 38:23
  You know what I liked? Sia Nara I.
• 38:28
  Yes, I screamed. I thought that was Sia.
• 38:33
  Nara and he still like John Malkovich, still looked cool
• 38:38
  doing that. He.
• 38:39
  Doing the corniest thing that he.
• 38:41
  Doing the corniest thing. He looked the coolest out of
• 38:44
  everyone in the movie. He wasn't cheesy, ever.
• 38:47
  I don't think I think that because he is such an earnest
• 38:51
  actor that he really like it really came across.
• 38:56
  Yeah, Yeah. That's the thing I also love
• 38:58
  about Nicolas Cage is that like he he can be camp, but he he
• 39:03
  takes on every role with like such sincerity, even when we see
• 39:08
  it as cuckoo wacky. He's like, I do this because I
• 39:10
  love it. Yeah, he was PO.
• 39:14
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 39:15
  He said he went to Alabama and like, spent time there trying to
• 39:19
  like, develop an accent, like everybody, damn.
• 39:22
  What part of Elm? No, can't get into it.
• 39:25
  We cannot get into it. Yeah, OK.
• 39:31
  No headset is safe in this movie.
• 39:33
  Any time someone's wearing a little headset, it's gonna get
• 39:35
  thrown. No headset is safe.
• 39:38
  Yeah, yeah, the. Boy and Larkin, they're just a
• 39:42
  mess. Just constantly.
• 39:44
  Oh my God. So yeah, we've got the we've got
• 39:47
  the DEA douchebag versus the US Marshall work.
• 39:52
  US Marshall. I hate when a movie makes me
• 39:55
  like root for a cop. You know what?
• 39:56
  I. Mean, but he had sandals.
• 39:58
  He had socks. And sandals.
• 40:00
  And I love John Cusack. I really do.
• 40:02
  I don't know. If I do, I feel nothing.
• 40:05
  OK, what's his other work? Who is he?
• 40:08
  Well, he and John Malkovich were back together in Being John
• 40:11
  Malkovich. I never saw much longer.
• 40:13
  Well, the episode of did that age well would have already
• 40:16
  well, by the time this is out, it will already be out in in
• 40:20
  current time. It'll be out next week.
• 40:23
  OK, OK, so so watch it before then.
• 40:25
  OK. And then watch the episode of
• 40:27
  Did That Age? Well, John Malkovich is in it,
• 40:30
  so that'll be a huge sell for you.
• 40:32
  Yeah, Is he hot? John Malkovich?
• 40:35
  He's. Younger.
• 40:36
  He's hot. Yeah, it's 99, so oh, oh.
• 40:39
  Around the same time. Around the same time, yeah.
• 40:42
  Yeah, so we're rooting for the US Marshall because the DEA guy
• 40:46
  is like, I'm in the DEA and I want to do whatever I want and I
• 40:51
  don't want to listen to a fucking nerd woke ass bitch.
• 40:56
  Yeah, he was. A little forest.
• 40:58
  He's kind of like this liberal fucking dumbass guy, but there's
• 41:03
  no other than him. Just like wearing socks and
• 41:05
  sandals and like being smart and like having a wide vocabulary
• 41:09
  and sort of being a show off. I don't understand where he was
• 41:13
  getting all this other information.
• 41:15
  Yeah, I will say John Cusack is the only person in the whole
• 41:20
  movie that knows what's going on, has a plan that was
• 41:24
  unrealistic too, but. What?
• 41:26
  That a man would know what's going on.
• 41:29
  Yeah, was ahead of everyone at every step.
• 41:31
  Like be serious. But yeah, I, I did enjoy that.
• 41:37
  The battle within those two, I did enjoy that.
• 41:40
  Yeah, totally. And I like the ultimately the
• 41:44
  the smarter guy one. Everyone gets their just
• 41:47
  desserts. Everyone.
• 41:49
  Yes. Johnny 23 dead.
• 41:52
  Yeah, Cyrus of virus dead. The DEA guy, his car is.
• 41:58
  Oh yeah, total. Might as well die.
• 42:00
  Might as well die. And then he takes it on the
• 42:02
  chin. He's like.
• 42:03
  He's like, I was going to get a new one anyway.
• 42:05
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone.
• 42:07
  Every bad guy dies. Like they don't make movies like
• 42:09
  that anymore. Well, the serial killer doesn't
• 42:11
  die, but again, was he? Was he not bad?
• 42:14
  He had so much like psychology going on.
• 42:18
  I'm like, was he? Well, I think he was, because he
• 42:23
  did say that he wore someone's head as a hat.
• 42:26
  Oh, he did. He did cross that.
• 42:28
  And we could say maybe he was lying, but I don't think he was.
• 42:31
  Yeah. And also it's Steve Buscemi.
• 42:34
  So of course, like, yeah, of course he he was.
• 42:39
  Yeah, can I say I used to skip over the scene where he had tea
• 42:43
  with the little girl? Oh yeah.
• 42:45
  He hated it OK when he OK when he was singing the song.
• 42:49
  They they start singing. He's got the whole world in his
• 42:52
  hands together. And then later when the plane is
• 42:54
  crashing, he's screaming it. He's screaming that song.
• 42:58
  And I decided that if I was on that plane and he was screaming
• 43:04
  that song, I would throw myself off the plane.
• 43:07
  I would say I'd rather die than spend my final moments listening
• 43:10
  to that. Is it get a better song or is it
• 43:13
  like his singing? I think it was both.
• 43:16
  OK. I think this is sort of like a
• 43:20
  Katy Perry don't sing. What a wonderful world when
• 43:24
  you're right now moment like when you're up there like just
• 43:26
  don't sing when you're. Ruins the vibe of the stealing a
• 43:30
  plane. Yeah, yeah.
• 43:33
  So and was it was it the song as well?
• 43:36
  Yes, that was annoying. But yeah, the part where he is
• 43:40
  like drinking tea, having like this tea party in an empty pool.
• 43:46
  And like the dusty. For some reason there is a
• 43:48
  trailer park right next to the airport.
• 43:52
  The airport. Which is believable.
• 43:54
  We live in America. It's disgusting here.
• 43:56
  It's true, but this is also an abandoned airport, isn't it?
• 43:59
  I don't think so. Oh, OK.
• 44:01
  Yeah, I think it. All looked, it looked, Amanda.
• 44:03
  Oh, maybe. But maybe that's just because I
• 44:06
  mean they had like an empty pool.
• 44:08
  Yeah. So maybe that's why I thought I.
• 44:10
  Think the town was just ass? Sure.
• 44:12
  The yeah. But I'm kind of like, OK, there
• 44:15
  was this giant plane crash and no adults came out of their
• 44:18
  houses. But the little girl was by
• 44:21
  herself so I'm like, was there any anyone else there?
• 44:25
  Was anyone else there? Yeah.
• 44:27
  Was she just a figment of the imagination?
• 44:30
  It could have been, could have gone crazy.
• 44:32
  Yeah, but I don't really know why he doesn't kill her.
• 44:37
  It's just like he tastes freedom a little bit maybe.
• 44:41
  Yeah, you know. But he could have killed her and
• 44:44
  had no consequence because. But what he kind of said, he
• 44:49
  liked to do it for the OR like a lot of serial killers like to do
• 44:53
  it for the thrill or something. Not for because of the
• 44:55
  necessity, but I was still like, well, why didn't he do it?
• 44:58
  For the thrill. Because no one would know.
• 45:01
  And like, part of the thrill is like maybe getting caught.
• 45:04
  I almost feel like that. OK, that's, that's an excellent.
• 45:08
  But why was he in Vegas gambling?
• 45:10
  Then why was he gambling and how did anyone not notice him?
• 45:13
  Yeah, that's a big plot hole that is now bothering me.
• 45:18
  And I'm so sorry. It's gonna be.
• 45:20
  It's certainly not the only one. It's a tough road to go down.
• 45:26
  OK. And then they see.
• 45:28
  OK, so they're at Carson City Airport, maybe not an airport
• 45:34
  next to the mobile Home Park. And what's his name?
• 45:38
  The the big guy who is kind of John Malkovich's little bitch.
• 45:43
  Oh. I forgot.
• 45:46
  OK, well, I'll just call him Big Guy.
• 45:47
  Big guy, It could have been Nate.
• 45:52
  I think it was Nate. OK, sorry everyone, I watched
• 45:55
  this. I watched this literally 2 days
• 45:57
  ago and I forgot everything because there's just a lot of
• 46:00
  characters. There's so much that happens.
• 46:01
  How am I supposed to remember everything?
• 46:03
  Like 30 main characters, truly. Yeah.
• 46:05
  So he says he sees the cars coming, the cops are on their
• 46:11
  way, and he says we got 10 to 12 minutes.
• 46:15
  How did he know that? Yeah, How did he know it was
• 46:18
  going to be 10 to 12 minutes? He had a guy for everything.
• 46:21
  Yeah, a guy that kind of can fly a plane, a guy that can.
• 46:25
  He's like the point person for the project.
• 46:28
  He was, he was a good manager. He really was.
• 46:31
  Cyrus A Virus was a good manager.
• 46:33
  A really good manager and he had everything detailed so
• 46:38
  meticulously. When we go into his like prison
• 46:42
  crawlspace thing and and they start getting out the maps and
• 46:46
  the, and the vision boards and the project management software.
• 46:50
  I mean, it's crazy. Excel spreadsheet.
• 46:54
  You would not believe the things that he can do in an Excel
• 46:57
  spreadsheet. Thank God this happened before.
• 47:00
  You know the technological revolution because he would be
• 47:03
  too powerful. He'd be way too powerful.
• 47:06
  Also, there was a camera in his cell.
• 47:10
  Yeah, and it was pointed right at that.
• 47:13
  How did they miss him making a fake brick and pudding?
• 47:16
  Whatever. You know what, As I saw in the
• 47:19
  Alabama Solution, prisons are really understaffed.
• 47:23
  Oh, there's a lot going on, too much going on.
• 47:25
  Too much going on. Yeah.
• 47:28
  And it's like a supermax facility.
• 47:30
  So you would have to think that they've got bigger fish to fry.
• 47:34
  There's a lot of other drama going on there.
• 47:36
  They have way too many other people to abuse.
• 47:38
  Yeah, so. OK.
• 47:43
  So a companion film to this, as we've established, is the
• 47:49
  Alabama solution. Yeah.
• 47:51
  Watch Face Off Alabama Solution, Con Air.
• 47:56
  OK, Yeah. All right.
• 48:00
  Do you think this movie could be remade today?
• 48:03
  Absolutely not. Absolutely not.
• 48:05
  People. Here's the thing about people,
• 48:08
  especially film critics. They they are not willing to
• 48:13
  suspend their disbelief. Nobody's willing to say, OK, so
• 48:18
  yeah, maybe there's just this random guy in prison who knows
• 48:22
  how to fly a plane. I.
• 48:23
  Heard a little show called Hijack actually no I do feel
• 48:29
  like not to cut you off. I'm sorry but you may.
• 48:32
  After 2001 not a lot of plane movies were banned.
• 48:36
  Tough era for plane movies. Not only that, but like Flying
• 48:41
  Prisoner, it's just too fantastic, you know what I mean?
• 48:45
  And like with that, you show hijack, a guy takes over a
• 48:50
  plane. We're getting back there, we're
• 48:52
  getting back to it. But I just don't.
• 48:54
  There's just too much crazy shit.
• 48:56
  Too much. It's just too crazy.
• 49:00
  I think that this, this movie, I think lives in the same
• 49:04
  cinematic universe as what's that movie where they're on the
• 49:09
  bus. It's basically like it's like
• 49:14
  hostages on a bus Speed. Oh, thank you.
• 49:17
  Thank you, Jacob. Speed that is believable because
• 49:20
  we have not fixed public transit.
• 49:23
  Oh my God, that is so true. And you know what?
• 49:25
  Being when they were on that plane, I said this is modern day
• 49:30
  plane travel, am I right? So uncomfortable planes like
• 49:35
  flights, regular flights now have become being on Southwest
• 49:39
  is con. Air Yeah, I could not agree.
• 49:41
  More. That's why I'm like, we can't
• 49:42
  make this movie. We're living this movie.
• 49:45
  It's a documentary. It's a.
• 49:47
  At this point, it's a documentary.
• 49:48
  That is so tough. Frontier.
• 49:51
  Frontier, yeah. I just feel like it's too people
• 49:57
  are too critical these days of things that can happen in
• 50:01
  movies. We, you know, we let Marvel make
• 50:05
  whatever they want. Why can't we have a car chase
• 50:08
  movie? I will.
• 50:10
  Say this, I think it's because Marvel, we know it's another
• 50:15
  world. We know it's like made-up.
• 50:18
  Yeah, but there are superheroes. They're superheroes, but if you
• 50:22
  try to make this in the real world where we live now, it
• 50:25
  doesn't work. That's an excellent point.
• 50:28
  They would have to make this. They would have to be like it's
• 50:30
  in the multiverse and then people would would like it.
• 50:34
  Like who else? What other?
• 50:36
  It doesn't even matter, people just love when a movie would.
• 50:40
  Say this is. This is in the multi.
• 50:41
  We just remake it and it's in the multiverse.
• 50:44
  Yeah, totally. We're like, which multiverse?
• 50:46
  Doesn't matter which one. You just add that tag and they
• 50:49
  might suspend their disbelief. Honestly, they might.
• 50:51
  Yeah, we say this part of. Yeah, totally.
• 50:54
  We're like, well, this is what would have happened in your
• 50:57
  timeline if you would have snuck out of the Army to get your wife
• 51:03
  pregnant. This.
• 51:04
  Is the Hamnet multiverse? This is Ham Hamnet Multiverse.
• 51:10
  Yeah, this is the other time Hamnet too con air ham heated
• 51:15
  that movie. Oh my God, too heavy.
• 51:17
  Too heavy. Way too heavy.
• 51:20
  Shakespeare. I got to look at my little notes
• 51:22
  here and see what else I've. Got going on OK, but we haven't
• 51:28
  said anything about oh, I, I don't know if you're like
• 51:31
  describing the rest of it. Poe being discovered.
• 51:35
  Yes, let's discuss it, Yeah. I feel like his kid is an OP
• 51:39
  because my birthday is July 14th, my daddy's coming home on
• 51:44
  July 14th. I meet my daddy for the first
• 51:47
  time ever on July 14th. Are you a fucking nerd who
• 51:51
  writes like that? Who writes like who?
• 51:54
  Writes like that she outed her dad.
• 51:57
  Yes, she did. Yeah, that was her fault.
• 51:59
  Yeah, kids are awful. Yeah, yeah, it was definitely
• 52:04
  her fault for all of it. And also the.
• 52:11
  The woman guard who? Danny Trejo's character, guard.
• 52:17
  Bishop. Thank you.
• 52:17
  Yeah, sorry. She's not.
• 52:19
  I call her a guard, not a woman guard.
• 52:21
  Just say woman guard. The girl guard.
• 52:24
  So the girl in the movie and then there's.
• 52:26
  To be fair, she was the only one.
• 52:29
  And they and Danny Trejo's character kept like.
• 52:33
  Will they only? Yeah.
• 52:36
  Will there be a crime? Will there not?
• 52:38
  I guess there already were crimes, but kind of his big one.
• 52:42
  She I don't understand why they didn't.
• 52:45
  I'm sorry. This does not have to do with
• 52:48
  with what you asked me about him getting discovered, but I it
• 52:51
  popped in my head and I've got to say.
• 52:52
  It guard Bishop, Yeah. Guard Bishop.
• 52:55
  Why didn't they unlock her handcuffs?
• 52:58
  It was like the first thing they did for a bunch of other people.
• 53:00
  I know, but they were all the other ones were all like used as
• 53:05
  bait and she was girl guard. So yeah I think they kind of
• 53:10
  left her there so they can all watch her to make sure she
• 53:13
  doesn't get raped. I'm not even kidding cause the
• 53:15
  other guys were like all in the back and on their knees and
• 53:19
  handcuffed behind them. I think she got pretty
• 53:22
  privileged being Wow hostage. Yikes.
• 53:26
  Yeah. Well then why didn't they just
• 53:27
  lock up Danny Trejo's character? Because solidarity with
• 53:31
  criminals. Totally, he said.
• 53:34
  Your Dick gets out of your pants on this plane.
• 53:36
  You're hopping off the plane. Yeah.
• 53:39
  He had a line. The line was no sex.
• 53:43
  I think it was no sex on the plane.
• 53:45
  Yeah. He didn't really care if he
• 53:47
  freaked. Outside of the plane, no.
• 53:50
  One's getting laid tonight. I I don't think I'd call rape.
• 53:54
  Laid Yeah. And you said that, not me.
• 53:58
  I just want everyone to remember.
• 54:00
  I I don't call getting laid. I I wouldn't say like.
• 54:05
  She wouldn't say it. She didn't say like she takes
• 54:08
  it. Let's move on.
• 54:09
  Let's move on. We respect women.
• 54:15
  Of course. Some of my best friends are
• 54:16
  women, you know, My best girlfriends are girls.
• 54:20
  Yeah, so true, but none of my friends are prison guards.
• 54:26
  A cap. A cap even guard Bishop All
• 54:32
  Conair. Guards are bastards.
• 54:41
  Yeah, I did feel bad for her, but she believed in Poe.
• 54:43
  She was like, you're a good guy, you're gonna see your daughter.
• 54:46
  Don't you wanna see your daughter?
• 54:47
  Yeah, stuff like that. I wish that they would have had
• 54:51
  just a little bit of like a little bit of a humanizing
• 54:58
  element to him. Like why didn't he get like
• 55:03
  hardened in prison? Why was why did he have no arc
• 55:07
  at all? He just went to he was like
• 55:10
  basically like he went to prison because of an accident.
• 55:14
  And then he is like the model prisoner, like reading books and
• 55:18
  giving people snowballs and doing push ups, minding his
• 55:22
  business, going home to his family.
• 55:26
  And it's like, OK and. I think that was he was just
• 55:33
  kind of a pick me for the system, if you ask me.
• 55:36
  Like, yeah, he's like, no, you gotta do your time.
• 55:39
  Oh, my God. This film is like prison
• 55:42
  propaganda. Yeah, If you do your time, you
• 55:45
  act right. Yeah, you will be rewarded with
• 55:48
  a free, free plane ride to make kiss.
• 55:52
  And you could be a hero and. You could be a hero.
• 55:54
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 55:54
  Because at the towards the end, he gained the trust of Larkin
• 55:59
  and Oh yeah, and Malloy, honestly.
• 56:02
  And he let him ride a cop motorcycle and be on the chase.
• 56:06
  He's one of us now. Are you kidding me?
• 56:09
  Gross. Yeah, and that's how recruitment
• 56:11
  works, girl. Yeah, that's what I think.
• 56:15
  So Poe is the villain. Interesting.
• 56:17
  Take. Interesting take.
• 56:19
  Yeah, that's an interesting take.
• 56:24
  I'll say it. I think that Cyrus the Virus was
• 56:28
  the hero. I'm kidding.
• 56:30
  No, I think so. I'm kidding.
• 56:32
  I think so. He just wanted freedom.
• 56:35
  He was bringing multiple prisoners with him.
• 56:39
  Yeah, if that's not Prison Reform, I don't I don't know
• 56:43
  what is freeing his. Do you know, do you think that
• 56:46
  in his whole like plan and the whole schema that he wrote that
• 56:51
  he knew that like there were going to be many casualties?
• 56:57
  Or do you think that he genuinely believed like we're
• 56:59
  all, like all the prisoners are gonna make it?
• 57:03
  No, he knew there was casualties.
• 57:04
  But I think every good revolutionary does know that,
• 57:08
  yeah, when you try to change the system, there will be
• 57:12
  casualties, absolutely. As with the French Revolution,
• 57:15
  as with the American Revolution, As with the American Revolution.
• 57:19
  Part 22025. Yeah, she doesn't know her wars,
• 57:22
  but she knows her revolutions. Wait, what's a war?
• 57:26
  No, what's what's war? War inevitably leads to
• 57:30
  revolution, but you think so? Yeah, War kind of incentivizes
• 57:34
  people to revolution. You think so?
• 57:37
  I, I feel that's true. I feel deeply that's true.
• 57:42
  And I, you could say I, I feel it so much.
• 57:45
  It's basically a fact. Yeah, Pretty much.
• 57:51
  Yeah, probably. The American Revolution?
• 57:54
  What was that? World War King?
• 57:57
  King George was paying, was charging these guys for some
• 58:02
  bullshit he was doing in Europe, and what do they do?
• 58:05
  They revolutionize. And they revolutionize and there
• 58:08
  was a war. But the revolution and the war
• 58:12
  like coincided. It wasn't like there was a war
• 58:15
  and then there was 1 revolution and which one begets.
• 58:18
  Which one? And that's the first time I've
• 58:20
  ever used that correctly. By the way, I'm going to look
• 58:24
  into this and write like a paper about it because I have a
• 58:28
  theory. Subscribe to the sub stack.
• 58:30
  I mean, God, I'm ready. Read the companion sub stack.
• 58:35
  Did that age well did that revolutionize?
• 58:37
  Well, Did. That really revolutionize so
• 58:41
  this was not the revolution that John Malkovich Cyrus the virus
• 58:45
  probably would have envisioned well certainly because he died
• 58:50
  but he. Didn't envision anything.
• 58:52
  He did not envision any of that. Yeah, but I think that he he
• 58:56
  probably saw some of the some of the prisoners not making it.
• 59:03
  Yeah, some of the lesser ones like pinball, like pinball and
• 59:09
  the first six that were shot in the plane, some of them were
• 59:15
  just, you know, totally. They were just kind of nobodies
• 59:19
  and we didn't know. And we didn't know.
• 59:21
  Popovich. I only know he didn't even
• 59:24
  remember him. I know he died because they were
• 59:26
  looking for replacement. No, that's right.
• 59:29
  He was on the list. He was one of the white.
• 59:30
  Ones or he's going to be casualties.
• 59:32
  Yeah, yeah, he knew the six whites.
• 59:34
  That's why he that's why he went through the list and marked each
• 59:38
  one White, black, white, black, because he said, how else am I
• 59:43
  going to keep track of all these guys Exactly?
• 59:45
  Yeah, totally. I need to categorize them into
• 59:49
  two Sally. Sally Latina.
• 59:52
  Latina. Yeah.
• 59:53
  And Johnny, 23, Latina. That's so true.
• 59:58
  OK, so representation. Representation and I don't know.
• 1:00:02
  Why there were no There were no Asian murderers on that plate.
• 1:00:06
  And where are the women? And where?
• 1:00:10
  Where are the women? Obviously it's like a separated
• 1:00:14
  prison. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:18
  Cyrus the virus. Yeah.
• 1:00:20
  RIPRI. P to a real one.
• 1:00:22
  Rest in power, King. What else do we need to discuss?
• 1:00:25
  I mean, God, we, we really could go through every single thing
• 1:00:29
  that happens and explain why it's crazy that that happened.
• 1:00:34
  But I think that the listeners get it.
• 1:00:37
  I just think this was OK. I wrote this down.
• 1:00:42
  This was girl interrupted for WWE boys.
• 1:00:47
  Wow, huge. What do you like?
• 1:00:52
  And Nick Holmby, as a soon to be attendee of a WrestleMania, I
• 1:01:00
  just really thoughts on that girl Interrupted.
• 1:01:02
  Yeah. Several ladies 1 was an
• 1:01:06
  arsonist, one was try to kill herself.
• 1:01:09
  Might say a murderer. Yeah, that's what I've always
• 1:01:12
  said. We're.
• 1:01:13
  Like any you know, girl crime, girl on girl, OK, it's girl on.
• 1:01:19
  If you kill yourself, that's girl on.
• 1:01:20
  Girl crime. That is girl crime, girl on girl
• 1:01:23
  crime. But like, they were all just
• 1:01:25
  like, mentally unwell. And then we get to Connor.
• 1:01:29
  Mentally unwell, boys, just trying to figure it out.
• 1:01:32
  Totally. It's like boyhood.
• 1:01:33
  They're all going, they're all going through the same thing,
• 1:01:36
  but it just looks very different when it's when the masculine.
• 1:01:40
  Is a prism. Totally, yeah.
• 1:01:41
  There's no rehabilitation. No, I mean there was in girl
• 1:01:45
  interrupted. I will say that wasn't really
• 1:01:47
  rehab. They were just pilled down and.
• 1:01:49
  Totally. They were.
• 1:01:51
  They were just as cuckoo as when they got there.
• 1:01:54
  Exactly. Yeah, yeah, masculinity is kind
• 1:01:57
  of interesting in this movie. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:00
  But at least there is a there's male friendship.
• 1:02:04
  There is a lot of male friendship, male bonding.
• 1:02:06
  I OK this is so stupid. I really liked how in the cabin,
• 1:02:10
  when it was like Cyrus a virus, Nate, the Swamp Thing, they were
• 1:02:14
  all kind of like cool with each other and like plotting the
• 1:02:18
  landing. I really liked that.
• 1:02:20
  Yeah, I liked when they were, when they worked together
• 1:02:22
  together, when they worked together.
• 1:02:24
  That was my favorite. Part isn't that awful?
• 1:02:26
  I really enjoyed that I. Like when they worked together.
• 1:02:29
  I would watch a friendship short.
• 1:02:31
  This was in in the multiverse, honey.
• 1:02:34
  There is another timeline in which this is a buddy comedy, a
• 1:02:38
  road trip. Cyrus, a virus, Nate and
• 1:02:40
  something road trip. Yeah, totally.
• 1:02:42
  But it's on a plane. Why don't we write this
• 1:02:45
  multiverse and we create the multiverse that way it is
• 1:02:48
  believable? That way it is a multiverse.
• 1:02:50
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:02:53
  Something to think about. Don't.
• 1:02:54
  If you're listening, don't you dare take that idea.
• 1:02:57
  Don't you steal that. Don't take that.
• 1:03:03
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:03:03
  What else, Miriam? I'm trying to think, I think
• 1:03:07
  that's all I had. I oh, OK, One thing I found out
• 1:03:11
  it did cost $74,000,000 to make this in 1997.
• 1:03:15
  That's equated to $152 million now.
• 1:03:18
  OK, I just feel like the explosions and the plane crash,
• 1:03:22
  so much money spent on that. Yeah, you couldn't do that now
• 1:03:26
  unless you're like fucking Nolan, right?
• 1:03:30
  But he does one or two explosions.
• 1:03:32
  This was like non-stop. There were I I can't even
• 1:03:35
  remember a moment when there wasn't an explosion.
• 1:03:37
  Yeah. Even when he was running with
• 1:03:40
  the needle to get to, what's his name, Baby O.
• 1:03:46
  Oh yeah, that's. His his friend, there was
• 1:03:49
  explosions behind him and I actively thought of that.
• 1:03:51
  I was like, how is there an explosion?
• 1:03:54
  He's running. He's needling.
• 1:03:56
  With his hair flowing, his shirt busted.
• 1:04:00
  Yeah, explosion in the background, lubed up.
• 1:04:06
  Lubed up to the. Gods, I screamed.
• 1:04:09
  I laughed and laughed and laughed.
• 1:04:12
  I loved it. I loved it.
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  I loved it. Another thing that maybe maybe
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  we need to work on for the remake is OK.
• 1:04:21
  So obviously we know it's kind of a Chekhov's Gun thing where
• 1:04:25
  it's like the guy says I'm diabetic and we're like, OK,
• 1:04:28
  well, this is obviously going to come up.
• 1:04:31
  Annoying being. So annoying.
• 1:04:33
  Diabetes. I hate when people have
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  illnesses and disabilities. It's so inconvenient, especially
• 1:04:41
  on a plane. Yeah, I'm just like Southwest in
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  that way. But OK.
• 1:04:47
  So I'm just sort of like we didn't need like, you know, I'm
• 1:04:53
  a I'm a harm reductionist. Of course, in this scenario, I
• 1:04:56
  don't think that we needed like a sterile needle.
• 1:05:00
  I do believe that we could have taken, we could have taken
• 1:05:03
  something sharp and just kind of put it in OK.
• 1:05:06
  As a phlebotomist, I will say. We did bring the right person on
• 1:05:11
  the podcast to talk about this. The the kit broken on the
• 1:05:14
  ground, right? Yeah, He he said all these
• 1:05:16
  needles. Needles are broken.
• 1:05:18
  It doesn't have to be sharp. No, it just has to be new.
• 1:05:21
  And I'm assuming they were all in packages.
• 1:05:23
  They were just broken in the package.
• 1:05:25
  Why couldn't you just fucking do it?
• 1:05:28
  He doesn't care. He's going to die.
• 1:05:30
  Right, yeah. He's like, Oh no, he's going to
• 1:05:32
  get an owie. Could be a little bitch, yeah.
• 1:05:36
  Also, there's probably alcohol there just.
• 1:05:39
  Totally. It's fine.
• 1:05:41
  It's fine. Yeah, I agree.
• 1:05:42
  That annoyed me. I was like, you guys are willing
• 1:05:44
  to do a lot and you're not willing to break this man's
• 1:05:46
  skin. Let's.
• 1:05:47
  Name the things you're. Willing to do.
• 1:05:51
  Shoot prisoners left and right. Shoot US marshals left and
• 1:05:54
  right. Explode a plane in Vegas.
• 1:05:57
  Explode a plane in Carson City. Hang on to a fire truck by the
• 1:06:02
  the ladder handle by the one arm, Yeah.
• 1:06:06
  I will not, I will not stab my friend with a dirty.
• 1:06:10
  Needle. I will not.
• 1:06:11
  Yeah, which? Isn't dirty actually, because no
• 1:06:13
  one's used him and. That is so true.
• 1:06:17
  Man, fuck this guy. Man fuck him, he is a real
• 1:06:20
  enemy. I think baby O was a baby and he
• 1:06:24
  was. Being a being a little baby.
• 1:06:25
  He could have just been like, been like.
• 1:06:26
  Hey everyone just like find anything.
• 1:06:29
  Also, no call to action for the rest of the plane.
• 1:06:32
  Hi guys. Just a second.
• 1:06:34
  I just want to make an announcement.
• 1:06:35
  Yeah, I would be a villain with that fucking walkie-talkie.
• 1:06:40
  Oh my God, are you? Kidding me?
• 1:06:42
  Give me anything guys, Can you hear me?
• 1:06:46
  Hello. It's.
• 1:06:48
  I would have gone up to a. Little hot in here.
• 1:06:50
  I would have gone up to tires. Can you make an announcement,
• 1:06:52
  please? Oh.
• 1:06:53
  Excuse me, could you just make one more quick?
• 1:06:55
  Announcement Mr. Virus. Mr. Virus, I just have one more
• 1:06:59
  quick announcement if. Anyone has a needle?
• 1:07:01
  Yeah. Please.
• 1:07:03
  Please. Please.
• 1:07:05
  I know. Find it like that.
• 1:07:06
  Yeah. He didn't make an announcement.
• 1:07:08
  No, he didn't. That was the problem.
• 1:07:10
  There was no direct call to action, and that's how you know
• 1:07:13
  we're in marketing. That's so true.
• 1:07:16
  That's so true. If you don't have a call to
• 1:07:18
  action, then what the fuck was the point?
• 1:07:20
  Why are you crying? Why are you crying?
• 1:07:21
  Nobody is on you, baby Baby O, Baby O.
• 1:07:25
  Was that his name? Honestly, you said it and I
• 1:07:29
  thank God because when as I was walking in here, I was like, I
• 1:07:34
  don't know how I'm gonna remember everyone's name.
• 1:07:37
  Baby. You got it in there.
• 1:07:39
  I've only seen it 1000 times. She's only watched it every
• 1:07:44
  other day for years and until we got a fourth movie.
• 1:07:50
  Absolutely. Miriam, what's what's going on
• 1:07:55
  with you? Like creatively, what are you
• 1:07:57
  working on? What do you want the Do you want
• 1:07:59
  the people to know what you're doing?
• 1:08:04
  Lose my number? Don't.
• 1:08:06
  Don't find me. Don't find me if you see me on
• 1:08:08
  the street. No, you didn't.
• 1:08:09
  Leave me alone. No, I I run a show.
• 1:08:13
  Goodnight Denver. We're taking a little bit of a
• 1:08:16
  hiatus right now because we're coming back for August,
• 1:08:19
  September, October shows and but we are gonna post all of our
• 1:08:25
  clips and reels from the shows on our Instagram.
• 1:08:29
  So follow good dot night dot Denver for that.
• 1:08:33
  And yeah, I'm just I got shows all over town.
• 1:08:36
  Great. So follow me at Catholic guilt
• 1:08:38
  and I post all my shows on my link tree.
• 1:08:41
  Great like a monster. Yep, like a monster.
• 1:08:46
  Wait. Wait, wait, one more thing.
• 1:08:47
  One more thing. First of all, thank you for
• 1:08:49
  sharing all that. I'm gonna put everything in the
• 1:08:51
  show notes. OK?
• 1:08:52
  This is a good way to end this. So Steve Buscemi's character
• 1:08:56
  says that the real monsters are the ones who go to work from
• 1:09:02
  9:00 to 5:00 every day. Until they die.
• 1:09:05
  Until they die and they're incapable of peeing.
• 1:09:08
  Getting to the bathroom in a timely manner.
• 1:09:10
  I thought that was weird too. So do you agree or disagree that
• 1:09:15
  going to being like a like an office guy or girl or them is
• 1:09:22
  the same as being a serial killer?
• 1:09:25
  100 person. Anyone who has a job, you're a
• 1:09:30
  monster to me. Who yourself?
• 1:09:32
  No, no, I don't. It's the.
• 1:09:35
  Same. But when he said, you know who's
• 1:09:38
  a real monster, I said you are. The guy in the fucking Hannibal
• 1:09:44
  Lecter suit. What are you guys?
• 1:09:45
  Who's? Screaming, he's got the whole
• 1:09:47
  world in his hands. Having tea with a 5 year old,
• 1:09:50
  Yeah. And empty pool.
• 1:09:52
  Shut up. Yeah.
• 1:09:53
  We are not the same I. Hate.
• 1:09:55
  I think I hate. When they do that in movies
• 1:09:57
  where there's like a clear villain and they're like, well,
• 1:09:59
  are you the villain all along? And I'm like, no, I'm not.
• 1:10:02
  I'm kind of just a regular person.
• 1:10:04
  You're the villain. You're the villain.
• 1:10:06
  You're the clear bad guy. Yeah, clearly.
• 1:10:08
  Yeah. I think that they would try to
• 1:10:10
  make it. That's one of the things they
• 1:10:11
  try to make philosophical. And it's like, Oh, no, there's,
• 1:10:13
  there's nothing there. Stop.
• 1:10:15
  I'm so sorry that actually you don't have to go there because
• 1:10:18
  we don't need that think that or.
• 1:10:20
  Need that that isn't for this. Yeah, you don't have to
• 1:10:23
  philosophilize. Philosophy, philosophy,
• 1:10:28
  philosophy, philosophy, philosophize, philosophize.
• 1:10:35
  You don't have to make it crazy. No, it's.
• 1:10:38
  You don't have to make it deeper than it.
• 1:10:40
  Has to be. It's really not that deep.
• 1:10:42
  It's literally just like people hijacking a plane pre 911.
• 1:10:48
  Pre 911. Pretty powerful stuff that this
• 1:10:50
  was pre 911. Never get remade.
• 1:10:54
  Look out for our multiverse though.
• 1:10:56
  Yeah, totally. I think OK who gets a spin off
• 1:11:00
  though Multiverse. So we have Conair yeah, the
• 1:11:03
  pinnacle of all the things sure. Cyrus Survivors gets his own
• 1:11:06
  spin off Buscemi yes, yeah. I wanna know what he is up to in
• 1:11:12
  Vegas. We get pre and post.
• 1:11:15
  Yes, I want pre and post versus fucking growing.
• 1:11:18
  I want to know whose head he wore as a hat, and I also want
• 1:11:23
  to know what are some of his favorite games to play when he's
• 1:11:26
  gambling. Where does he stay in Vegas?
• 1:11:29
  Follow him on TikTok. Follow him on TikTok for that.
• 1:11:32
  For his reviews, go to TikTok go.
• 1:11:34
  God TikTok go will not leave me alone.
• 1:11:36
  What the Hell's TikTok? Go to their new app.
• 1:11:40
  TikTok Go is a creator program where they basically like give
• 1:11:45
  you, they like give you money. If you post at different
• 1:11:50
  locations, like it'll be like the this specific hotel is
• 1:11:55
  offering a deal, make some content and we'll give you
• 1:11:59
  money. And The thing is, I don't want
• 1:12:02
  to make content at Disney World or whatever.
• 1:12:04
  I don't want to go to Disney World so I can make content.
• 1:12:07
  And every day I'm getting notifications.
• 1:12:08
  It's like the clock has been ticking down on your TikTok Go
• 1:12:15
  campaign. Get your ass to Disney World now
• 1:12:18
  and we'll give you 5. Dollars, they have a gun.
• 1:12:21
  And they have guns. They have fun get your ass to
• 1:12:27
  Disney World they got otherwise we're they got con air.
• 1:12:31
  And and they got those guns where TikTok shop, buy your guns
• 1:12:37
  and use promo code con air. We got to get out of here.
• 1:12:44
  That's sick. All right.
• 1:12:45
  OK, Miriam, thanks for coming. Thanks for having me.
• 1:12:48
  Everyone go leave. OK?
• 1:12:49
  I swear to God if this by the time this episode comes out, if
• 1:12:53
  I haven't gotten another review on Apple Podcasts, I'm going to
• 1:12:58
  hijack a plane. Don't.
• 1:13:01
  Say that. Oh my God.
• 1:13:04
  And in jest, in jest, in kind of a ha ha way.
• 1:13:08
  Yeah, kind of. No, it is.
• 1:13:10
  Ha ha, it is. It is.
• 1:13:12
  It is. I'm not doing anything that's.
• 1:13:15
  What you're gonna do, you're gonna write Hamnet.
• 1:13:16
  Two. Yeah, that's so true.
• 1:13:18
  Back, back on the. Back on the Hamnet.
• 1:13:22
  Too Fast, Too Furious. Yeah.
• 1:13:25
  So I'll do that. And you don't wanna see that.
• 1:13:27
  So please, for the love of God, write a review on Apple Podcast.
• 1:13:33
  Make it a good one. I'd love if you did.
• 1:13:34
  Five stars and follow us on TikTok at did that Agewell pod.
• 1:13:41
  You will not find me at Disneyland or World, but you'll
• 1:13:44
  find me here at dude IDK studios and that's what really matters.
• 1:13:48
  And follow us on Instagram at did that Agewell.
• 1:13:53
  OK. And that's it.
• 1:13:54
  Should we send it off with how do I how do I live with my
• 1:14:00
  excuse me toy Mike from home If you ever go it echoes dude, how
• 1:14:08
  do I ever ever survive? Oh, how do I, oh how do I, oh
• 1:14:19
  how do I live? All right, goodbye.
• 1:14:23
  Oh, that was just perfect.