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Happy Hour # 149: Ethical Buying · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to.
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Speaker 3: are you sippin on anything?
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Speaker 2: I am and just a FYI so cold? That is
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Speaker 2: very cold right now? One? Two We're recording a bunch
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Speaker 2: of stuff at once, so this is one of two
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Speaker 2: Happy Hours in the same session. So I'll be drinking
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Speaker 2: the same thing. Yes, but I am drinking a sake
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Speaker 2: that has snow in the name because I am very
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Speaker 2: cold and I just happen to see it and it's
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Speaker 2: one of my favorites and I got it. Is it
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Speaker 2: cold while I am cold?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: But I am going to enjoy it anyway, just at
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Speaker 2: us you enjoy it.
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Speaker 1: I am also cold.
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Speaker 3: I am currently wrapped up in an electric blanket because
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Speaker 3: it did finally get below thirty here in Atlanta, which
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Speaker 3: it hasn't been doing that much global warming. You know,
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Speaker 3: it sucks, but I do not love the cold, so
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Speaker 3: you know all those things, but I am wrapped up
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Speaker 3: in an electric blanket.
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Speaker 1: Oh, let's turn itself off. Let me turn it back on.
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Speaker 3: No wonder I'm colder, but yes, also so I am
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Speaker 3: drinking coffee, which I've had. This is my third cup
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Speaker 3: of coffee, which is way more than I typically ever have,
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Speaker 3: but I'm like, I need it. But this one is
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Speaker 3: the Happy Hour edition in which I've added Bailey's and yes,
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Speaker 3: I will also be drinking it through our multiple episodes
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Speaker 3: as well. And it's nice and warm because I bought, like,
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Speaker 3: I made this coffee about three hours ago, but I
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Speaker 3: bought one of those pots that keeps it thermal.
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Speaker 2: Oh nice, it's cute too, like it.
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Speaker 3: Speaking of buying things, so this is what I'm gonnaitch about,
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Speaker 3: essentially trying to buy ethically. And I say this as
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Speaker 3: I bought that probably wasn't an ethical buy because I
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Speaker 3: didn't research anything, and there's so many things happening around
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Speaker 3: the world, a lot of boycotts, and then there's a
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Speaker 3: new law that just got past about not being able
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Speaker 3: to boycott, and it's not necessarily for individual citizens. It's
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Speaker 3: more for companies, so that companies have to participate in
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Speaker 3: giving money to things that everyone disagrees with or a
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Speaker 3: lot of people disagree with and do not want them
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Speaker 3: to do. But that's a whole separate episode that we're
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Speaker 3: not going to get into. But talking about trying to
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Speaker 3: buy things responsibly and ethically, and when it comes to
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Speaker 3: Christmas and the holidays in general, trying to do that,
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Speaker 3: and I am not gonna lie. One of the things
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Speaker 3: I do love to do is buy a good gift.
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Speaker 3: So if I know that there's something about you and
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Speaker 3: I think you're gonna love it, it's like me trying
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Speaker 3: to match your personalities. Like this became a prideful thing
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Speaker 3: for me in college when I got complimented on and
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Speaker 3: my gift giving skills and they're like, you do so
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Speaker 3: good and like knowing and being really thoughtful, and like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: that's right, I am, you know, like really being like
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Speaker 3: something that I'm proud of, but like coming into understanding,
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Speaker 3: trying to be responsible, and unfortunately I am still a
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Speaker 3: customer to big companies and corporates that deliver because there
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Speaker 3: are times that I need things quickly or whatever whatnot
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Speaker 3: an indoor trying to decide with a partner what to
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Speaker 3: get other people, family members when they are decided, indecisive,
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Speaker 3: and so trying to scramble because one of the presents
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Speaker 3: that I bought was through Etsy, which is not which
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Speaker 3: is not a great sight anymore from what I gather
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Speaker 3: and like, but they are going to be after Christmas,
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Speaker 3: even though I ordered it three weeks before, it's going
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Speaker 3: to be after Christmas, and of course that's not the
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Speaker 3: big of a deal. And then we're going to let
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Speaker 3: them know that it's coming. But stuff like that really
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Speaker 3: has this conversation of being in a hassle. And again
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Speaker 3: this is very privileged perspective. I understand this, but because
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Speaker 3: I want to for the first like I want to
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Speaker 3: give good gifts for the you know, like the last
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Speaker 3: three years has been the first time I've abble to
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Speaker 3: give everything I want to give, like I'm being able
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Speaker 3: to afford it as were before I would buy I
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Speaker 3: would get my gifts if they're especially if they're like
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Speaker 3: gift cards, especially if they're like gift cards, and give
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Speaker 3: those gifts. Because I could not afford to do so,
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Speaker 3: I was never able to give my nieces and nephew
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Speaker 3: presents often. And now I've gotten to the point that
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Speaker 3: I can and want to because I feel like maybe
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to buy their love.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know, being the support.
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Speaker 3: I just remember being in college or newly out of
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Speaker 3: college and struggling and really excited to get help, especially
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Speaker 3: during the holidays, and wanting to be a part of that.
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Speaker 3: So there's so many things that I have been trying
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Speaker 3: to be considered of but feels so difficult. And again
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Speaker 3: I understand this is a privileged comment, but as someone
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Speaker 3: who has always tried to be conscientious of where to purchase,
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Speaker 3: it feels really hard to navigate, and especially now because
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Speaker 3: there's so many bad players. So I bought some things
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Speaker 3: from Etsy, and several of them are wonderful, but one
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Speaker 3: of the companies, and this was like not too long ago,
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Speaker 3: not necessarily for Christmas, but I figured out that they
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Speaker 3: use LGBTQ products. But then they also have Trump supporting
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Speaker 3: products as well, and I'm like, no, wait what, I
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Speaker 3: don't damn it.
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Speaker 1: Like there's so.
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Speaker 3: Many things in which I'm trying to find someone who
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Speaker 3: are like minded.
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Speaker 1: And I get they.
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Speaker 3: Have to make money, that's a thing, but at the
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Speaker 3: same time, I want to buy from someone who are
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Speaker 3: supporting something that I think is important in ihold Deer
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Speaker 3: as well, especially again knowing that it's hard as a
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Speaker 3: small business to get this done. So if I can
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Speaker 3: find someone who aligns with that, that makes me feel better,
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Speaker 3: even though I don't feel great because again, at C
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Speaker 3: has done their people pretty dirty. One person showed on
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Speaker 3: TikTok what their profit margin was, and I believe they
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Speaker 3: take twenty percent of their profit and I'm like, my god,
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Speaker 3: that sucks.
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Speaker 1: And that may be underquoting.
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Speaker 3: I think it probably is more, but like the amount
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Speaker 3: that they take from their people is absurd. And then
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Speaker 3: the fact that they have allowed big corporate and companies
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Speaker 3: to infiltrate it, so you don't always know if you're
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Speaker 3: buying from the right people. Like again, I try to
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Speaker 3: research it and go through but sometimes it's so hard
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Speaker 3: to find something niche that you're like so excited that
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Speaker 3: you got this, and then you realize later that was
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Speaker 3: not who I would rather have bought it from. And
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Speaker 3: for some reason, I really feel some type of way
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Speaker 3: about shipping. I don't want to pay for shipping cost.
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Speaker 1: What is with that?
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry that just Crasty, You're not alone in that
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Speaker 2: at all.
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Speaker 1: It makes me angry.
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Speaker 3: And again, like I have to think, by the way,
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Speaker 3: they're truly small business, they need that.
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Speaker 1: Like I get that.
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Speaker 3: So for for anybody who runs an stay shop or
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Speaker 3: a small business and are like, come on, Samantha.
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Speaker 1: I get it.
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Speaker 3: I get it, but there's something in me that's just like, oh,
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Speaker 3: why are you making me pay for.
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Speaker 1: Seven dollars for shipping?
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Speaker 3: It was a good deal and now it's it's ridiculous
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Speaker 3: and absurd And I absolutely would still support it, and
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Speaker 3: I'm again I'm getting across that hurdle now. But for
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Speaker 3: the like, initially I'm.
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Speaker 1: Like, I don't I don't like it.
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Speaker 3: And it was interesting because a good friend of mine's
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Speaker 3: birthday is coming up and it's a big one forty
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Speaker 3: I don't know why we had to say a big one,
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Speaker 3: but you know, it's significant for them, and so we
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Speaker 3: wanted to send her a present and she is very conscient,
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Speaker 3: just sustainable, vegan individual like very ethically aware and hyper aware.
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Speaker 3: So we try to find something that was along those lines.
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Speaker 3: I looked them up and I was like, Okay, this
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Speaker 3: looks good, and then I got another report saying they're okay.
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Speaker 3: I was like, because it was like, yes, they're good
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Speaker 3: for the environment and they're good for animals, but they're
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Speaker 3: not great with their people. I'm like, oh my god,
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Speaker 3: I don't I don't know what to do because I
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Speaker 3: feel like you have to balance out. You have to
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Speaker 3: almost compromise. Yeah, for a specific especially if you're thinking
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Speaker 3: of a specific product.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard. I think about this a lot. In
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Speaker 2: terms of the conversation we had with Brenee from a
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Speaker 2: feminist book club. She said something, because we we've talked
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Speaker 2: about this before. This is a different conversation, but we
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Speaker 2: struggle with this a lot with advertisers, and she was like, well,
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Speaker 2: if they're going to give me money, I can take
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Speaker 2: it and talk about something like basically like this big
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Speaker 2: company will give me money, I will take it and
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Speaker 2: then talk about the thing that maybe they hate. Like
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Speaker 2: I don't, but it's like a weird you do have
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Speaker 2: to do that, And I know she spoke about Etsy specifically,
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Speaker 2: and she was like, sometimes you could reach out to
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Speaker 2: the creators, yeah, and then find out like how would
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Speaker 2: you prefer to get paid, Like they would rather get
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Speaker 2: paid something than nothing. But it is like these big
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Speaker 2: companies come in and once again ruins something that you know,
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Speaker 2: what's more about like small business and creators hopefully at
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Speaker 2: one point, but like a lot of that happens a lot,
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Speaker 2: not just Lezzy. It's just frustrating, right, Yeah, and it is.
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Speaker 3: It's frustrating, especially when you have things like TMU that's
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Speaker 3: coming out that's just all kinds of bad, that's even
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Speaker 3: worse than some the big corp corporations. And then there's
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Speaker 3: also that level of like the sustainability and the vegan
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Speaker 3: products and then making sure that it's all crafted. Sometimes
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Speaker 3: small businesses can't don't have access to that because that
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Speaker 3: stuff is expensive, so you do have to go for
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Speaker 3: the bigger brands or and or you know, like a
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Speaker 3: bigger company that has accessibility to that that can buy
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Speaker 3: you know, like, it's just so hard to figure out
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Speaker 3: how to do this because you really have to decipher
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Speaker 3: what's the most important, what part of this is the
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Speaker 3: most important, and as everything is happening with Congo in
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Speaker 3: different places.
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Speaker 1: You need to be hyper aware.
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Speaker 3: But the electronics you're buying, that's always been a thing,
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Speaker 3: but it seems more important today, I don't know, or
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Speaker 3: maybe just as important, but I'm more aware of it.
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Speaker 3: So trying to buy that sustainably and being smart about
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Speaker 3: that as well, and then realizing what you think can cannot.
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Speaker 1: Sustain you.
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Speaker 3: This is kind of a problem because I had an
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Speaker 3: incident any knows and and he's had a few incidents
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Speaker 3: in which my laptop gave me a really mean sad
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Speaker 3: face and that like when I looked it up, it
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Speaker 3: was like, oh, this is bad.
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Speaker 1: This is the death of the computer.
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Speaker 3: I'm like that means I'm gonna have to buy a
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Speaker 3: new computer and I have to have one for my job.
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Speaker 3: So it's kind of like that level of like, Okay,
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Speaker 3: at what point can I do all these things? Like
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Speaker 3: obviously I'm a I'm aa never go back to that
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Speaker 3: one coffee shop. They're bad on every level. Short short, sure,
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Speaker 3: that's easy, you know, like, that's that's super easy. There's
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Speaker 3: a lot of accessibility, there's a lot more like small
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Speaker 3: coffee shops and such, so you can do that, which
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Speaker 3: you still need to be aware and find out what
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Speaker 3: their practicing is about, but doing like electronics and trying
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Speaker 3: to be technologically savvy and up to date so you
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Speaker 3: can do your job and create what we need to.
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Speaker 3: We use so much equipment to produce these episodes, which
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Speaker 3: is our livelihood. Same thing with like when it comes
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Speaker 3: down to when we've talked about this before, ads, none
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Speaker 3: of them are great. I don't think I've ever had
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Speaker 3: any company that's like, oh my god, I love them. Yes,
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Speaker 3: mm hmmm, because you always find out something.
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Speaker 2: But thank you sponsors.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And again it's about whether or not you know
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Speaker 3: you're willing to like lie down with the devil essentially
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Speaker 3: like make a deal with the devil at to a
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Speaker 3: certain extent. Because also a lot of the products and
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Speaker 3: consumerism and then a lot of the work that's done
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Speaker 3: to create these things are taking advantage of people. We
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Speaker 3: know this, We've seen this, and as many people who
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Speaker 3: say they do better, that better is very minimal.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a big problem with that. A lot
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Speaker 2: of times it just it's something seems good and like
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Speaker 2: a year later something comes out You're like, this seems
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Speaker 2: so good, but it is funny. You mentioned the laptop
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Speaker 2: because I am having laptop issues. My laptop, it is
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Speaker 2: like three years old. It was not an expense. It
13:48
Speaker 2: was basically like a type lab. It doesn't do nice things.
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Speaker 2: It's like not fancy. I use it to write and
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Speaker 2: to email. But I love it. I love it nice.
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Speaker 2: It's not like an it's I'm not a gaming laptop
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Speaker 2: or something like my last laptop was. So that was
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Speaker 2: a bummer when it broke. But I took it to
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Speaker 2: to get repaired and the guy was asking me like
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Speaker 2: how much did you did you pay for it? How
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Speaker 2: much are you willing it? And I was like, I
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Speaker 2: would rather if there's a way we can fix this.
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Speaker 2: I don't care if it's kind of silly. I'm tired
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Speaker 2: of having laptops that I don't know what to do
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Speaker 2: with its waste, Like, if there's a way we can
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Speaker 2: fix it.
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Speaker 1: All electronics I have phones, I'm like, what do what
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Speaker 1: do I know?
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Speaker 2: And it feels so wasteful, and also your data is
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Speaker 2: on it, and I'm like, how do I get rid
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Speaker 2: of all this? And there has been a history of
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Speaker 2: that being very exploitative in terms of oh, you're recycling it?
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Speaker 2: Are you really?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 2: So I was like, I know this is a very
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Speaker 2: basic laptop, but I really just don't fix it. And
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Speaker 2: luckily it turns out it can be fixed. We'll see
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Speaker 2: it has happened yet, but it's good news. Yes, it
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Speaker 2: was pretty bad.
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Speaker 1: That's the good news.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the thing to that, Like, let's.
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Speaker 3: Just be very honest, like you were saying, you're willing
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Speaker 3: to pay that money to do it instead of waiting
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Speaker 3: for a deal to come up so you can just
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Speaker 3: buy a new one at the same cost or less.
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Speaker 3: It takes a lot of privilege to do ethical and
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Speaker 3: sustainable things. I joked about the shipping and handling, but
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Speaker 3: that can cost a lot more than you can afford,
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Speaker 3: Like you find whatever it is in your budget, but
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Speaker 3: then the like the seven dollars extra is too much,
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Speaker 3: Like that pushes you, especially if you're buying for ten people,
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Speaker 3: from which we did. And I understand again my own
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Speaker 3: level of like understanding that I finally get to this point,
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Speaker 3: but even to me, like it's hard to cheow, like you,
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Speaker 3: I still have to pick and choose.
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Speaker 1: Kind of about like is this the battle or is
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Speaker 1: this more important than this battle?
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Speaker 3: And yeah, we talked about it much before, about like
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Speaker 3: when it comes to organic foods or just eating quote
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Speaker 3: unquote hell fear and who that really is for and
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Speaker 3: why a lot of people don't it's because of cost.
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Speaker 3: It literally costs more to be all of these things,
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Speaker 3: which would be a dream come true. But capitalism has
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Speaker 3: made sure to keep people at that lower economic social
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Speaker 3: economic status for a reason. And it's ugly and I
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Speaker 3: hate that that's even a conversation, but that's part of
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Speaker 3: that conversation. To buy from Etsy, it feels like you
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Speaker 3: have to be making over one hundred and fifty thousand,
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Speaker 3: and I'm being a little bit dramatic about that, but
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Speaker 3: it's not so far fetched to buy from small shops,
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Speaker 3: and really everybody desperately wants to, I think to a
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Speaker 3: certain extent. But it costs more money. I went to
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Speaker 3: an individual dogs supply store. Everything costs ten dollars or
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Speaker 3: more for your dog, and I'm like, who can do this?
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Speaker 3: People who earn as much as I said, And it's
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Speaker 3: just it doesn't. It's not realistic for a chunk of
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Speaker 3: our population, especially today, and especially the fact that the
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Speaker 3: pay is not increasing with the cost of living, like
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Speaker 3: it just isn't. We talk about people kids getting Christmas presents.
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Speaker 3: They're not going to get homemade or cute like kitchy,
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Speaker 3: really sustainable toys. They're getting Walmart toys which may have
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Speaker 3: led in them. Like it's and for that child, they're
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Speaker 3: so excited and happy, But that's that's the reality of
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Speaker 3: it all. So I say this with like very heavy
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Speaker 3: handed criticism to our society and itself, but also understanding, yes,
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Speaker 3: this is very privileged conversation in saying that I'm complaining
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Speaker 3: because I don't know what to do and I don't
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Speaker 3: know how to make this better, which is part of
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Speaker 3: my spiral and like Christmas in itself a by the
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Speaker 3: time this is released, I think Christmas will be over.
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Speaker 3: But if you are looking at the new year for
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Speaker 3: birthdays and I have.
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Speaker 2: A lot of you have birthdays in January and February, you.
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Speaker 3: Go all those Here's something from a Wired article about
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Speaker 3: how you can be more sustainable stay closed home using
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Speaker 3: the small businesses and local shops. Again, like I said,
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Speaker 3: that's a delight, but some of them are really really expensive.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you have to be able to get there.
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Speaker 2: They don't deliver, and like it's ridiculous, but it is true,
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Speaker 2: Like a good a not insignificant amount of our job
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Speaker 2: is researching advertisers, like it takes time to learn if
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Speaker 2: they're good right right, Like some of them are obvious,
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Speaker 2: but some of them you have.
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Speaker 3: To really like really have to dig m m. And
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Speaker 3: he does that for me, thank you. An I try
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Speaker 3: my best. Usually some of them more than like adamantly no,
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Speaker 3: absolutely not like but some of them I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3: and you're like, no, ma'am, we can't be doing this one.
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Speaker 1: I was like, what, oh bad, And then.
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Speaker 2: We're like, are you okay with this one?
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Speaker 3: We'll cry about it later and feel guilty about it.
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Speaker 3: Another advice is buy second hand, which is really great
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Speaker 3: except for some of the things. Goodwill y'all have jacked
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Speaker 3: up your prices, and we know Goodwill.
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Speaker 1: Good bad. They're good bad, Like it's some of them
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Speaker 1: have yeah.
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Speaker 3: Also there's so many things to that. But there are
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Speaker 3: other second hand stores. They're definitely second hand stores, Like
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Speaker 3: I don't support this organization, so I won't go there,
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Speaker 3: right right, But all that to say, yes, especially when
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Speaker 3: we talk about electronics, buying second hand is actually a
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Speaker 3: really smart way to go, especially if you're trying to
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Speaker 3: be conscient. Just where those resources are coming from support bipock,
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Speaker 3: LGBTQ types of businesses, which, again, sometimes you get tricked.
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Speaker 3: I got tricked. I got tricked.
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Speaker 2: Any did you get tricked?
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Speaker 1: I thought I knew.
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Speaker 2: I think it's happened to a bunch of us.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they just And then we've had people admit they
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Speaker 3: pretend like they're black businesses and it turns out they're not,
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Speaker 3: or they're pretending like they're women owned businesses and we
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Speaker 3: found out they're not.
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Speaker 1: Like there's so many of those that you don't know until.
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Speaker 3: After the fact. But if you can finding a trust
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Speaker 3: the resource, go for that. Shop sustainable ethical companies. Again't
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Speaker 3: that's a great idea, but we know it's costly.
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Speaker 2: And then the.
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Speaker 3: Best advice I think that they give is to the
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Speaker 3: best that you can. Like it's kind of one of
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Speaker 3: those a win is a win situation. I did get
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Speaker 3: a few of the s the presents that I received,
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Speaker 3: like I'm going to give out and the people who
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Speaker 3: send their stickers and their small business.
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Speaker 1: Cards, they make me feel good.
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Speaker 3: So knowing that we're supporting those kinds of businesses make
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Speaker 3: me very happy. But yes, I need to do better
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Speaker 3: about trying to contact them. And be like, can I
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Speaker 3: pay you directly so I don't have to.
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Speaker 1: Do these fees. I always get scared of being scammed,
21:02
Speaker 1: though I do too, not that, but sometimes you get
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Speaker 1: bad players.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also have a new fear that some
21:16
Speaker 2: of the because I had a question for somebody I
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Speaker 2: purchased from Etsy on and never responded and then they
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Speaker 2: just sent the item, which was a personalized item I
21:29
Speaker 2: actually came today, So I can't wait to.
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Speaker 1: See what just happened.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and I was like, what if this is like
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Speaker 2: an AI store? What if this is not like even
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Speaker 2: a real person.
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Speaker 3: Oh, that is a new fear unlocked, because you can
21:47
Speaker 3: they could do the reviews with AI, like you could
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Speaker 3: really make a.
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Speaker 2: Whole I could just be being very paranoid, but I cannot
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Speaker 2: wait to see what I got sick because I never
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Speaker 2: sent the personalization.
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Speaker 3: I will say like is it because you know the
22:04
Speaker 3: whole trend is it's the wishless version, which is like
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Speaker 3: the off off off brand, which is like it's not
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Speaker 3: completely spelled right or to the west, like you know,
22:14
Speaker 3: it's not completely right.
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Speaker 2: I hope. Then on trendy there was.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was some people on TikTok talking about how
22:22
Speaker 3: some of the shops are supposed to be small businesses.
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Speaker 3: It literally was like they went to wish dot com,
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Speaker 3: which is a very like sketchy, Like I've had scammers
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Speaker 3: use my card to go do wish dot com to
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Speaker 3: order things.
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Speaker 1: That was my biggest fraud incident.
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Speaker 3: But like they did that and they realized that's what
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Speaker 3: was sent to them was literally something they ordered off
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Speaker 3: of Wish to send to them to make the extra
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Speaker 3: money to look like it was a small business.
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Speaker 2: Though. Ah wow, Okay, it is not your O, but
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be. It's like a really super personalized niche thing.
23:03
Speaker 2: So it's going to be hilarious. Whatever it is, we'll see.
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Speaker 2: I'll let you know.
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Speaker 1: I'm excited to know about this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah well yeah, well heres cheers.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for letting me both complain and be concerned
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Speaker 3: and stress that about those.
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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I think you're totally right because I told
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Speaker 2: you I feel that in the grocery store. Now, everything
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Speaker 2: I look at.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, all the brands.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. So I think it's on a lot
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Speaker 2: of people's mind. So thank you for sharing. Samantha and listeners.
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