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Love Island Season 7 Final Thoughts & Reunion Breakdown · Your One And Only Source

• 0:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hello and welcome back to the pretty little podcast.
• 0:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: We are your hosts.
• 0:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: My name is Phoebe and my name is Caroline and today Taylor Allison Swift is engaged in the crowd.
• 0:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, no.
• 0:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's engaged, guys.
• 0:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I get a call from my sister, Phoebe Kahnel.
• 0:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I answer and she says, open Instagram.
• 0:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I, I mean, a million things went through my head.
• 0:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I also want to say that a million things could have gone through my head.
• 0:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: But instead, what I said is, what is it?
• 0:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is it Taylor Swift?
• 0:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is she engaged?
• 0:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like the fact that there could have been so many things that act, I actually have a reason to carry that deeply about.
• 0:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the first thing I thought was like it must be something with Taylor Allison Swift.
• 0:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I do think that's
• 0:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's fair because of everything that's been going on.
• 0:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't think it says too much about, okay.
• 1:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Some people might say that, um, take that as like, oh my god, they're so obsessed.
• 1:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it's like, we are kind of primed to be like this, especially in a season like this that we're in.
• 1:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, currently, she has been, you know, updating her website with new countdowns and new album covers every other day.
• 1:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: which is weird because now is she going to like keep doing that?
• 1:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can't keep doing that now.
• 1:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know.
• 1:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 1:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: The next cover is like her hands with a ring.
• 1:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: This was just like Tuesday at one PM's random.
• 1:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: But also we had a conversation and and you're not going to want me to bring it up because you were proven wrong once again in the history books.
• 1:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to be showing out.
• 1:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is the
• 1:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: You see me being wrong.
• 1:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's just like I was just saying like I was just another opinion that could have been true.
• 1:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, because you speak very definitively.
• 2:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: You speak with a lot of authority on the suffix.
• 2:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: So when we spoke and I said, Phoebe,
• 2:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: There are rumblings that they're merging their brands could this be?
• 2:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, I mean, I didn't see it down.
• 2:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you didn't see them being together.
• 2:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: You were like, they are not dating, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 2:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Phoebe's actually mad that I'm bringing this up for some reason.
• 2:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just Potter, get over it.
• 2:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: It happened.
• 2:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, you were there.
• 2:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think you're seeing it in a way that like, I didn't feel that sense of about how to run.
• 2:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, your prediction was wrong.
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: You were on one side of history.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was on literal her story.
• 2:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: You were on one side of history.
• 2:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was on the right side of history.
• 2:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what it is.
• 2:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I said, I think this is happening.
• 2:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: You said, no, it isn't.
• 2:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's happening.
• 2:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Guys, can you come back?
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that's how it happened.
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I said.
• 2:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think you spoke to me as though no, no, that's not happening.
• 2:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: That is what happened.
• 2:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember it like that.
• 2:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: What do you think you said?
• 2:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I don't think that I was like, I don't think it was my definitive opinion that it wasn't certainly going to happen.
• 3:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't think it was happening.
• 3:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, hey, feet, neither of us are psychics either of us could have had an definitive opinion.
• 3:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: But that's what you're saying.
• 3:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: You had a wrong notion.
• 3:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was just saying like it could go either way.
• 3:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't think that it was like
• 3:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: It had to be one way or the other.
• 3:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's fine.
• 3:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Really because you're yelling.
• 3:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: You seem genuinely pissed off.
• 3:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just wanted to celebrate with my sister on the phone and that this was happening in the first thing she said on the phone was that I was wrong.
• 3:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was not the first thing that I said.
• 3:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I actually was screaming.
• 3:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Anthony was like, Caroline, what's wrong?
• 3:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, that isn't a clip.
• 3:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I literally not the first thing that I said.
• 3:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was like the fifth or sixth.
• 3:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And did you really think I wasn't gonna say it?
• 3:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had to.
• 3:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's okay.
• 3:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're allowed to be wrong about like two things on your life.
• 3:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're massive and huge and I'm never gonna let you forget them or live it down.
• 3:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: But you are allowed.
• 3:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just don't let it happen again about anything else at all.
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just thought, I don't know.
• 4:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just thought differently.
• 4:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't, I just wasn't, and I think maybe it was me trying to protect my heart.
• 4:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think maybe it's me trying to be like, I, I want this to be right for her so badly.
• 4:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't want to think.
• 4:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm also like that's so much pressure.
• 4:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's more pressure than usual on the relationship.
• 4:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like the NHL posting about it is like why the NHL, you don't even like, it's not the end sending a push notification to every- That's what I'm saying on both apps.
• 4:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Both in the ESPN fantasy.
• 4:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Both of them sent who I'm like, I think I just didn't, I didn't want to.
• 4:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Put an additional pressure on our garage.
• 4:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want to tell you that it was okay.
• 4:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want to tell you that it was okay if this wasn't forever.
• 4:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it is a wrap about that.
• 4:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, right.
• 4:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, and here's one thing that I believe we true about Taylor Swift say what you want about the, you know, people of long had discourse about the amount of boyfriends that she's had or whatever.
• 5:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't see Taylor Swift putting a ring on that finger unless it is forever.
• 5:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
• 5:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, unless Travis Kelsey is the greatest scammer, the earth has ever known.
• 5:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that's also my fear.
• 5:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think I'm not the podcast and we feel better about him.
• 5:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I do still have my reservations just speak.
• 5:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know and I think that's okay.
• 5:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Again, it comes from a place of, you know, you're protected over her and I think that was also partly that was obviously he's older now, but in his past relationships, like he's just a bit of a, he's like a
• 5:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: a showy guy and like that has gotten him in trouble in the past and I just am worried that she doesn't need that.
• 5:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not I'm super excited and I don't mean to be I'm not trying to be WW down or I was just trying to walk everybody through my thoughts from last week because obviously I'm thrilled and excited and I the podcast again reiterating this the podcast made me feel better and I'm glad that she's with someone finally who will like
• 5:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was reminded of the Joe Allen videos of like he'd be on a red carpet, and someone would bring up Taylor or like ask him what his favorite song was, and he would like get annoyed and like have an attitude.
• 6:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: He'd be like, I've never heard any.
• 6:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, we don't support each other's work like that.
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Travis can Travis might not know the song Red from the, from the, digital album Red, but you can bet your bottom dollar he does now.
• 6:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: And also he just like has his answer is he's just like not going to be a jerk about it, which I feel like Joe always was.
• 6:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: And for that, I'm obviously excited.
• 6:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: guys, please don't take this wrong way.
• 6:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't send pitchwork to my house.
• 6:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I also think the Travis, like, it's not put, it doesn't feel like a put on.
• 6:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't feel like he's not actually a fan and he's doing this to get in.
• 6:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I, because that's the thing, because if he was like, oh my god, you know, I have to know every single, so if he was like studying up on Taylor Swift to pull one over on the whole Swift administration and the Swifties, then like he would have known red.
• 6:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
• 6:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I just, I do feel like,
• 6:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just, I'm going to be just genuinely not that good of an actor.
• 6:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: He genuinely does and he genuinely finds Taylor hilarious.
• 7:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he genuinely is like down.
• 7:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I also think it's a huge thing for him to be like, I have the ego that I have and that I have shown publicly over the years.
• 7:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Reasons that people are hesitant and wary and for good reason.
• 7:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: However, for him to be that person and be like, and yeah, I'm okay with dating someone and having
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: you know, my whole male fan base say that she's a masculating me and all these normal things like it does take a type of man.
• 7:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think to be able to handle the level of fame that she's at.
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think a lot of guys say that they would like that, you know, in theory, but to actually be in his shoes and have to handle that, I do think you have to be like super secure in yourself and also be someone that's like excited to stand on the sidelines.
• 7:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's something that she hasn't early had, you know, and
• 7:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting because they feel like we see actors and we see musicians as like deeper and they're a little bit more.
• 7:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're not these like meat heads that just like throw balls for fun and they're these like assholes, you know, but the truth is it's the people that are great with their words is the people that are really tied into their emotions.
• 8:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's those people that can hurt you the fucking most.
• 8:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Totally.
• 8:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because they not time and time again with her.
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 8:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I think
• 8:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that you're absolutely right to be protective and what I was asking was like, yeah, do you think part of your I don't think that the engagement is coming?
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think you were thinking that because really you just didn't you weren't ready for it because you also were like
• 8:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: a couple things one it opens her up as you're saying to so much criticism and we're already seeing it like people who just are tired of seeing her on their pages um but I think this also says the fact that she's doing it this way at this time when she's been doing these releases people are already talking about her shows that she's like I don't fucking care like you guys I'm happy this is my one part of the like spectacle anymore right which is really neat and
• 9:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to get into the specifics of the engagement in the moment, of course, not that we know any, but from the post.
• 9:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I wonder too, like, we, you said, and I agree with you.
• 9:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't mean to say that you and I accuse the story what, but we were talking about how, like, what is this wedding going to be like?
• 9:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And is this going to be another moment where we have to get a picture and just to defend our girl's taste?
• 9:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
• 9:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and the ring gives me hope, but I am the engagement.
• 9:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Everything shows me hope and how this looks.
• 9:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: But at the end of the day, she's still with her dress and the hair.
• 9:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, what does she still take hope?
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: What worries me, and not that I didn't think, it means the cutest thing in the whole world.
• 9:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: But the caption does just, it does just immediately remind you,
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: of that she is, but I get, I got to blow mom's mind when we were talking about the engagement.
• 9:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I tell me and I said in her first, because we were trying to figure out if there was any numerology about when she announced it or like if there's a day this, yeah, that's something that we've been like not that we know anything, but I guess it is like it's, it's close to the two years I feel like of when he saw her at the era store.
• 10:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: So maybe it was around like that anniversary, I don't know anyway.
• 10:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: we were trying to think of numerology and I said well you know it's crazy is in a song on her first album at the end and the beginning she says I was seven and you were nine and at the end of the song she says I made a seven and you'll be nine mom could not believe it she could not believe it she goes oh my god because his number is eighty seven in her album nineteen ninety nine
• 10:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: And mom couldn't um I couldn't believe it.
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know I know well, I mean you know Taylor's gotten so excited to talk about that with Taylor over and over every time Taylor gets a little bit tipsy she's like and Travis like in Mary song I literally said that I didn't know they had a couple glasses of champagne after they engaged and she really got to that but she got to that emotional point and she brought it up again And he was like and he doesn't get annoyed with her about yeah, he loves it.
• 11:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's like he loves it.
• 11:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: And mom listen to this and mom listen to this.
• 11:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, let Taylor explain it
• 11:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that they knew that this podcast had to happen before they could announce an engagement because exactly what you're saying now, like you were like the podcast sold me on him a lot more than I was and I think that a lot of people needed that because we do feel so protective over her, you know, and so I really feel like she
• 11:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was for her.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was for Travis.
• 11:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was for us to show.
• 11:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, hey, guys, look, I'm okay.
• 11:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, things are good.
• 11:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you're going to watch this and you're going to see it.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's my question.
• 11:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: When they reported, like, when do we think it actually happens?
• 11:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: So okay, her nails would have, that's a good point.
• 11:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want to hear about that.
• 11:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I feel like part of my, I mean, I just don't believe, and obviously we just spell these rumors every time they come up.
• 11:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: So like, maybe there was little surge of rumors around when it happened.
• 12:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: But like,
• 12:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Where do they do it that there was truly no leaks?
• 12:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: It hadn't been like secret garden in her mind.
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Of course.
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, right.
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think, please?
• 12:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: I imagine it's like actually set up just like you're engaged to love our house.
• 12:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Love our spine.
• 12:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that is the thing way did we see a arrowhead at arrowhead stadium Travis had the ares tour rebuild Okay, I love it and you know Taylor were to love that too Taylor ribbon like you got me this is my favorite place to be Taylor's gonna build a house in the shape of the ares tour stage And they're gonna live in it.
• 12:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's gonna be the love of house and then the like yes The stone pathway to like their pool is going to be the shape of the area absolutely absolutely so
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: people are now drawing parallels because she did that infamous lover photo shoot in that garden with all the pink and white florals and it looks so so so much like the setup that Travis had going on here and I'm wondering if that was intentional.
• 13:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: He walked her through her arrows.
• 13:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Stop it.
• 13:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, like I need a podcast now because I need to hear every single freaking moment I know Taylor you really didn't honestly you planned this really poorly Taylor Okay, we're getting another new heights podcast next week Mom kept asking me questions on their two she was like okay, so when did it like when did it?
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: What did he do?
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: What did he say mom Taylor doesn't call me yet?
• 13:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely on speed dial, but she's a long speed dialess I need to let you know like what when I said because out of the two of us, I was the first I was the power of year
• 13:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: She was the power of your and so you know what you might have been a naysayer we could go, but you are the one who dropped the bomb so like so like there you're okay.
• 13:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're good.
• 13:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
• 13:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was scrolling and I didn't I have a post notification on you were just scrolling can you believe that we're just scrolling nearly in you came across my god.
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would have had a stroke.
• 13:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would have already died.
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was just scrolling and I scored past it.
• 14:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then it was fucking dead not at all.
• 14:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, here was the first thing.
• 14:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: One.
• 14:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: It didn't because it was a collab post.
• 14:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: It didn't look like I didn't see Taylor's profile picture in the way that you normally don't.
• 14:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, do you think, oh my god, wait, Phoebe.
• 14:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Quickly, I want you to continue with this.
• 14:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: But do you think the reason you didn't get a post notification is because Travis posted it and requested to collab with Taylor?
• 14:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, I'm out.
• 14:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, why is that like so much cuter?
• 14:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, obviously tree pain, orchestra to the entire post.
• 14:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it gets to if Travis is the one who requested the collab, that's going to work and that might be why you didn't get it.
• 14:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe, but the caption is, but, I imagine, I mean, it's a great caption trailer and then typing it out.
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, it was a pain definitely made like a press release and she was like this press release.
• 14:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just your Instagram your collab Instagram post and it was like copy and paste and don't fuck this up There was a lot of red tape on that document.
• 14:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know it.
• 14:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh.
• 14:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh.
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh scrolling you passed through it
• 15:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, because the first picture they're so small and like we were talking about last week about wedding.
• 15:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: No one's ever talking about them.
• 15:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: No one has ever said that about Taylor and Travis.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're so small.
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I just mean like they're like the world biggest couple.
• 15:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Literally and like physically and bigger.
• 15:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Nice.
• 15:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, no, they're like they're so far back in the picture that you can't really like if you're going to go into their faces, it just looks like it's.
• 15:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And also I love that that's the pit.
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not the picture of him holding up the ring box.
• 15:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's literally him like holding her by the waist like looks like he's crying like with his legs.
• 15:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like worshiping her.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was gonna say his head looks red.
• 15:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I think that he's crying.
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that she's crying.
• 15:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: The rest of the pictures are obviously posed, but she looks in that picture with like Agina's towel.
• 15:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just tell from the body language because I know it's so well.
• 15:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think Selena and Abigail were there?
• 15:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think, okay, wait, wait, wait.
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: I have to think about that.
• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I scroll back up and I still at this point I'm not clocking that it's actually a Taylor Swift post.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think, and but I do clocked it.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: But something made you go back.
• 16:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I clocked it to them, but I think it's AI.
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then I'm like, and then like, I think Caroline and Julie probably thought that I've earned.
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Karen, mom and Julie probably thought that I was like malfunctioning.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't be like wait.
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wait.
• 16:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then I was like, wait, wait, I literally my eyes start to blur, I guess, because I was like, they're too cute.
• 16:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I thought that it was like a fake account, and then it was truly, I was like, TTA, Y-L-O-R, like it was like Taylor Swift, like, two T's, so it was not actually her.
• 16:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, and then I realized it was real.
• 16:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, and two minutes, guys, two minutes, I was like, what's that?
• 16:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I felt like an entire life.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I might pass by the time I went downstairs and said he looked at it six minutes ago.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you want to hear what our president has to say about this?
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: What?
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because he's officially made a statement.
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Perfect.
• 17:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, I can't wait to read it.
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like an article so it's not going to be like
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: He wrote an article about it.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, notice to journalists if you want me to like enjoy reading an article and you're gonna be like this just in this just tweeted just screenshot the tweet.
• 17:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yep, please get up and put it into a bunch of quotes.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I hate that.
• 17:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: So let's see.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see if I can even find it on a second.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jesus Christ.
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I wish them a lot of luck.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's a great player and a great guy.
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think she's a terrific person.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I wish them a lot of luck.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's not what you said last month.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: What?
• 17:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: You called her actually a chance.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Actually, a couple of weeks ago, you said, and I think winning after she endorsed Kamala.
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: He tweeted I hate Taylor Swift and I'm sorry.
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll go up so that bunch of exclamation points.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think we're remembering that correctly.
• 17:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I also like oh yeah in response Trump famously announced in all cops on truth social that I hate Taylor Swift.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, don't forget that in earlier this month These and ever since I alerted the world She was saying what she was by saying on truth all caps.
• 18:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's what he calls a zap that I can't stand her parentheses hate exclamation points
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: She was booed out of the Super Bowl and became comma no longer hot.
• 18:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: The tide is seriously turned.
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Being hooked is for losers.
• 18:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Being Republican is what you want to be.
• 18:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Guys, that is the President of the United States.
• 18:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, shit, I'm actually sweating after laughing so hard at your dramatic reading of that.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Guys, can you believe that real presidential text?
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Guys, these are going to go in the next time.
• 18:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: go in the national right for example of what could have been
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: But he's happy for her things.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's awesome.
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure I'm sure she'll be thrilled to get his well wishes.
• 19:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: He wants the invite.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now that she's he's like, okay, well, maybe now she'll lean into the Trad White this aesthetic and I can get behind that.
• 19:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can get behind those Republican family values.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
• 19:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, well, I mean, hey, Donnie.
• 19:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got a whole diss track coming out on October third.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'd be careful what you're tweeting because she's coming for you, I think.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would not be awesome if canceled was literally just like, hey, Donnie, listen now.
• 19:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's actually, it's just an endless with and it's her.
• 19:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's Matt Rogers in the back.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Big owl on the track.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's Matt.
• 19:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Have you hood of Christmas?
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's just like I'm chasing her as well.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah exactly.
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Have you heard a Christmas?
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
• 20:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was talking to Mom and it was like, do you think Matt is going to be pulled to be Jenna Bush's?
• 20:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: And she was like, does he really want that?
• 20:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: She said he is way too big for us.
• 20:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I love to hear it.
• 20:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
• 20:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
• 20:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Matt Rogers is now a household name for like our mother because Bowen has been because of course we're an SNL family and we're going to come in back to SNL.
• 20:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think he's not?
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, did you see what Lauren Michael said?
• 20:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not about Bowen.
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: He said this is going to be a massive shake up only like one cast member is coming back.
• 20:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Devon isn't coming back.
• 20:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's confirmed.
• 20:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of we only have we only have five more days to get our SNL emails in everybody.
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the way you want to go to us.
• 20:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: So last year is no longer ready on the show.
• 20:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: What is going on?
• 20:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know.
• 20:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, that's really weird.
• 21:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I could see Bo in leaving.
• 21:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know, it's around that time.
• 21:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't be talking.
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: But he's been on for four years.
• 21:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it's been more than that.
• 21:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Has it?
• 21:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 21:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like, I mean, it feels like it literally to me, I'm like he just is, he's still like a fresh face to me.
• 21:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 21:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's my close personal friend, but he is a fresh face to me.
• 21:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it is true.
• 21:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, is he getting too big for, I guess.
• 21:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's like needs another movie.
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he's got one.
• 21:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's got one coming up.
• 21:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's fancy in it.
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think so.
• 21:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, good.
• 21:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm happy to hear that.
• 21:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just heard some sure.
• 21:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 21:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, and of course, of course, they're working on Fanny's prequel.
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, and you know that.
• 21:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Come on.
• 21:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I mean, but what we can't say too much, it's because of Netflix.
• 21:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, it's guys.
• 21:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's just because of Netflix.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's just because of Netflix.
• 21:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: We can't say too much.
• 21:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll be talking about that.
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: We will be.
• 21:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get into love.
• 21:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm right.
• 21:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
• 21:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so excited today.
• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can barely speak.
• 21:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: We rescheduled this recording so that we could watch the love Island reading.
• 22:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think I had a premonition.
• 22:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: because Caroline and I on Sunday we were stressed out figuring out our recordings because I had a bit of an expected travel come up and I was like I had the I had the brilliant earth shattering idea to wait postpone this recording so we could talk about love island but it's almost like something in my heart
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's almost like that there would be more to talk about.
• 22:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know.
• 22:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, because holy, free king Molly.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: So let's, so let's tie back in a Taylor so that we can get to love Island, get you fed there.
• 22:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: But obviously, there's so much to discuss here.
• 22:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to get into the post.
• 22:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: So one of the things that we were saying is like, what the heck would her ring look like?
• 22:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: We just couldn't imagine it because for me, I was like, OK, Taylor's having a tasteful right.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
• 22:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: But she's
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: But she's not having a small right.
• 22:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, no, there's no way in hell Taylor Swift's not having a massive because at the end of the day, sorry, she does like shiny things.
• 22:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And at the end of the day, the fact that Travis is kind of like a baller like to spend money.
• 22:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: That is attractive for her whether we want to admit that or not.
• 22:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just think about what this would be if this has been Joe Owens engagement.
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: It would have actually been paper.
• 23:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: It would have actually been paper ring.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: It would have actually been paper and it would have been like a blade of grass and one day one day she'd like go swimming and she'd be wearing it and it would resolve and he'd be like that was so irresponsible of you.
• 23:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like you don't love me and he'd be nice here about it.
• 23:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, but like
• 23:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just, I just, it was never gonna be small, but I was like, I don't see you're having a super trend forward ring.
• 23:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's not our girl.
• 23:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't feel like you're having a ring.
• 23:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's gonna be like, this is gonna be passed down.
• 23:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I should feel like an heirloom.
• 23:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I shouldn't feel like a new
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: piece of jewelry even though it needs.
• 23:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it also is close to her hand.
• 23:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I was like, she's not going to have one of those huge rocks that is like lifted from the finger because she's got to be like able to move around.
• 23:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's a busy girl.
• 23:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: She doesn't even have like tips on her nails half the time.
• 23:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: So like I can also see our band literally just I can see it being the most simple thing you've ever seen.
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know I was like, what could the band be because so the guys the ring?
• 23:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, do we have any reports on how many carrots it is yet?
• 23:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can you do it?
• 23:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm sure guys we literally are like an hour.
• 24:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: an hour.
• 24:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is where this boots on the ground real time reporting.
• 24:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're welcome.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is a gorgeous like thick gold band.
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: It looks I need it.
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we got to close that, but I need like the full specs in the ring, which I'm sure tree will have out to the media any moment now.
• 24:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it's gorgeous.
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: It looks tasteful and it's closer look at Taylor Swift's massive and deeply meaningful and gay.
• 24:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
• 24:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a great Travis Kelsey.
• 24:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: No fucking way!
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but like he knows her to be known as to be loved.
• 24:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see what kind of info we have.
• 24:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: The Kansas City Chiefs Titan.
• 24:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is from People Magazine.
• 24:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Top jewelry designer, Kendrid Lubak, and Artifact's fine jewelry, which houses luxury designs, retailing upwards of thirty-three thousand six hundred.
• 24:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Holy shit as seen with their Demetra ring.
• 24:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I guess that goes for that.
• 24:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's Demetra.
• 24:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: This boasts a massive old mine, brilliant cut diamond, a rectangle cut diamond with antique references.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
• 25:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see if we have any other info.
• 25:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: That seems to be about all we have right now.
• 25:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so it's an it's like an antique diamond, but it's massive and probably perfect.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: But this is not by any means.
• 25:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is like an I think artifact literally wouldn't another thing that I was thinking about with when we talked about like you couldn't picture the ring I think that was another I think we're also kind of getting to a place with Taylor where we were like
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe she's we've all been saying like she's going to get married like marriage seems like she's raised about love so much like it seems like that Okay, keep me out of this because I didn't I'm just I think that as a lot I think that before she started dating Travis there was a bit of Maybe marriage isn't something that she's
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: We were putting it on her that she's so interested in getting it before.
• 25:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, before the tortured poets department, and then we got that and we realized.
• 25:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: But you know what I mean?
• 25:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like I think that like as she got older, it just seemed like it would have happened.
• 26:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, certainly when she was with Joe, we all started to think that we were like it must be.
• 26:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they'll just be important to her before.
• 26:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, before we got your losing me.
• 26:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: And before we really dug into what midnight's might have actually been and as a breakup album, like hmm.
• 26:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think we thought, okay, she's found her person.
• 26:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: She loves him so much.
• 26:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's happy with this quiet life.
• 26:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe she will never get married because maybe that's just not what she wants.
• 26:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then we get the tortured poets department realize hell fucking no, but I just wanted to be a bride.
• 26:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: She gave him all that youth for free like that line is not sung by somebody who doesn't want.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: These, and maybe, I mean, of course, it could have just been a family, but I just feel like being the romantic that she is.
• 26:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: She kind of put on this idea that like, I feel like it's, that is a moment that I think we saw her change for a man to make him more comfortable.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 26:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: She was happy to do it.
• 26:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he slowly fucking killed her and Travis has literally brought her back to life as we saw on the stage.
• 26:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think there was a story like, oh.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am so happy.
• 27:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so let's talk about the post now.
• 27:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's so iconic that it's her own song, so high school.
• 27:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, and one that she wrote about him, which is like, because you would think, I think if this had been AI, I would have really known because it would have been mom.
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I won't have a lot of time to edit this episode, girl.
• 27:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I, maybe kicking our mom out on the day of Taylor Swift's engagement.
• 27:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: We gotta talk about ten.
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, give her the mic for like thirty seconds.
• 27:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got to talk about, hey, in her old mind, vintage style, diamond ring.
• 27:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Is it an amazing way how much?
• 27:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's worth a million dollars.
• 27:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's worth a million bucks.
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
• 27:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because I've been reading.
• 27:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, babe.
• 27:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why don't you have it?
• 28:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 28:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Mom is pulling up the info.
• 28:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Don't tell her that we just went over this.
• 28:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hold on.
• 28:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever you do, Phoebe.
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do not fucking tell her that we just went over this.
• 28:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 28:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's an old mind brilliant cut, set and stunning.
• 28:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a vintage style that was popular in the eighteenth and the eighteenth hundreds.
• 28:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not an antique.
• 28:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, it was made by wait.
• 28:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's the jeweler?
• 28:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you did it, Phoebe.
• 28:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Guys, this is why mom doesn't have a podcast.
• 28:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not gonna tell you.
• 28:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hey mom, I love it.
• 28:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: And in thirty seconds, I'm gonna say, wait, tell me what?
• 28:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: The source said she leaves Travis love notes and by sentimental gifts and he does the same thing.
• 28:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, mom is officially sold on tape.
• 28:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
• 29:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's okay.
• 29:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: We actually, um, just cover.
• 29:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, I just don't.
• 29:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have it in the exact name.
• 29:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because she was going to say, and I actually do a video of the drooler.
• 29:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just have to pull it up.
• 29:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's going to take a second.
• 29:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: OK, if he's bullying mom, we all work.
• 29:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we're really trying to see if she wants to go to the pool.
• 29:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm just trying to move.
• 29:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't know how there's time for swimming unless someone has a waterproof phone case.
• 29:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, there's a lot of shit.
• 29:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: We got to be learning right now.
• 29:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: The ring was designed by Kendrid Lubek of artifacts.
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's F.E.X.
• 29:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well Phoebe said a wrong stuff.
• 29:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And thank god mom clarified.
• 29:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, you didn't.
• 29:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: You said artifacts.
• 29:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, I did not.
• 29:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you did.
• 29:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Said a wrong mom.
• 29:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: She said a wrong mom.
• 29:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Phoebe, Phoebe, are you in your period?
• 29:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, but I'm annoyed that it's always you're wrong.
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're wrong.
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're wrong.
• 29:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
• 29:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 29:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, just be right more.
• 29:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like if you don't want me to say you're wrong, I would be right more.
• 30:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love you mom.
• 30:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Tell her I said it.
• 30:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: She loves you mom.
• 30:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, clipping that.
• 30:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you hate your media clip that?
• 30:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Mom just puts your finger over Phoebe's head like she's gonna flicker when they're when you're finger and then they're with her middle finger instead a die-coke I don't I don't know if there ain't much of those the die-coke's perfect.
• 30:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's my thank you.
• 30:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, baby.
• 30:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes after I was so sweet.
• 30:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know mom is so sweet and you don't know about just kidding
• 30:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: What she said.
• 30:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but the flick was crazy.
• 30:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: The flick was hilarious.
• 30:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: She totally fainted you out.
• 30:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: She doesn't.
• 30:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then she ever fainted.
• 30:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: One, two, four.
• 30:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Totally fainted you out though at the point of finger.
• 30:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Mom, those eyes.
• 30:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: She did her off all the time.
• 30:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay, fine.
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hey.
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Guys, famously there was this one time mom and I were driving.
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: And mom said, don't look at anybody off because they might have a gun.
• 30:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was just about to say that.
• 30:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, but she does.
• 31:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're going to know.
• 31:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: But um, because there was just that car jacking on, um, green, green, green, green.
• 31:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Guys, like two seconds, like on my straight, basically.
• 31:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And people pulled up and literally four guys got out of a car, held up a gun to a car and said, get out, stole the car.
• 31:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: What the?
• 31:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't really happen.
• 31:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I saw that that stopped late.
• 31:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you something.
• 31:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, Mom.
• 31:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: And what was I going to say?
• 31:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm saying about all of that was just I think that's part of why it's been so difficult to picture.
• 31:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 31:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I knew she was coming back.
• 31:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I knew that wasn't me.
• 31:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Please, man.
• 31:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Product placement.
• 31:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: She said that she brings in the Diet Coke on her open palm.
• 31:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let me just say it.
• 31:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now she is.
• 31:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now she's moving around like a ferris wheel in front of and she's singing.
• 31:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what do we call an endorse a product?
• 31:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: What do we call an advertisement?
• 31:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: A brand new.
• 31:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: We wish we could get a Diet Coke Diet Coke creator of kidney stones apparently.
• 32:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Don't come on that for you didn't say it because she doesn't want him to say then don't drink it.
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Goodbye.
• 32:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Love you.
• 32:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here's some things you just pretended to do.
• 32:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: She does.
• 32:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is what you did to see before she got in before she started doing the product.
• 32:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: She just pause on the stairs.
• 32:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: She can't get in here by your state letter.
• 32:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: She is her own biggest fan.
• 32:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: She gave it to the frame.
• 32:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was going to hold up, but she didn't want me to reveal that she was going to come back in by moving the phone.
• 32:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you saw she goes, she goes.
• 32:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: She held up her hand and was like,
• 32:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: wait.
• 32:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then do something.
• 32:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna try something.
• 32:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a little kid vibes.
• 32:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like literally like, wait, watch what I'm gonna look what I can do.
• 32:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
• 32:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Guys, if you're in the Patreon by the way, our punch bowl, mom made a special appearance and on video.
• 32:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's where the sex box.
• 32:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but yeah, I think it was just, I just think it was just not to pull the picture all of it.
• 33:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think it got harder as we made.
• 33:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: There was part of, I think all of us that were like maybe it's not some issue once the way we thought of something that she wanted.
• 33:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think, uh, yeah, it just was really hard to, and I still like, I'm like, I don't know how to envision her wedding.
• 33:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it will look, all of this engagement, but Travis killed it.
• 33:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's beautiful.
• 33:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: The florals.
• 33:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's giving me a lot of our P&E's like, it also reminded me of Alex Cooper's a little bit.
• 33:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
• 33:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think there's like hell.
• 33:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that honestly.
• 33:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 33:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now that she's like does podcasts.
• 33:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying call her daddy.
• 33:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I was going to just say like, is she going to go on colored out of your, this is actually, but this is my dream.
• 33:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: She goes on therapist.
• 33:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was about to say never going to happen and I literally was like I didn't see that because like I know and if she's like I said Lena she wasn't that slain as bachelor red cuz oh, I don't even think like do we think she was being it do we think she got engaged like this weekend?
• 34:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm wondering.
• 34:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: How long, okay, you back the nails in the pot, okay?
• 34:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because because she have the same nails in the pot cast that she does in the engagement post and Taylor switches her nails like every day and she only puts acrylics on for like a day at a time.
• 34:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: So confused is like the scheduling of an engagement, the album in the podcast right now.
• 34:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: was it like, oh, this is perfect.
• 34:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Was Travis like, oh, when she's here, I mean, I don't, they're probably living together right now, but I just mean like, they, they're always bouncing over the place.
• 34:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Travis just had like training camp and everything.
• 34:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know.
• 34:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: What is his hair length and does he have a buzz cut?
• 34:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's wonderful.
• 34:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, well, he can go two different ways with this.
• 34:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: On one hand, I'm like, this saves the conversation from being, are they gonna get engaged at the chiefs when the Super Bowl?
• 35:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then we don't have to like have this hinge on that either.
• 35:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't need that pressure on him, like they're only going to get engaged at that.
• 35:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: So this kind of, I think, takes a little bit of the pressure off of his season because we don't need to be like chiefs have to get the Super Bowl.
• 35:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that they get engaged after he could as hair.
• 35:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it was this month.
• 35:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the other side of that is like, now we're gonna be talking about the wedding for the entire football season.
• 35:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: So there's still gonna be his face is so red in this picture.
• 35:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know.
• 35:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want to read what he's also he's so tan.
• 35:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to read what he said.
• 35:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to know if it was in his handwriting.
• 35:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I bet it was and I bet he framed it for her or she knows her a little rosy.
• 35:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm saying.
• 35:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think she's like emotional and then they cleaned her up for the pictures.
• 35:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: But like that first photo really does seem like it was in the moment.
• 35:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: photo.
• 35:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Don't you think?
• 35:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think she knew?
• 35:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like her outfit.
• 35:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, she looks cute.
• 35:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just so tailored.
• 35:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not like her hair's not like done.
• 35:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, she's not wearing like a crazy white dress.
• 36:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like she looks like that like this could have been unexpected for her, you know, which I like.
• 36:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think she deserves to have an unexpected proposal.
• 36:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think she deserves to know that something is coming at some time and not to have known that it was happening that day, you know?
• 36:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I love it.
• 36:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I love that.
• 36:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I also love that they said, we'll be announcing this.
• 36:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's not going to be any magazine that announces this for us.
• 36:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like we're going to do it.
• 36:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: To honor those returning comments off.
• 36:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
• 36:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I wonder what we'll get for the wedding.
• 36:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's no way there's nothing.
• 36:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's not not coming up.
• 36:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: I literally was like, okay, she might not want it to be televised, but Travis is going to be pulling for it.
• 36:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and honestly though, that's the other thing is like we keep saying this about Taylor, but at the end of the day, she was releasing five hundred different albums.
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was just horrible.
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: We get it.
• 36:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: We just spend so much time getting acclimated to Joe's version of Taylor.
• 36:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: but but she was presenting it is like I want to be private in a way that's the tailor we've known for the longest amount of time at once you know like that's also another thing I was trying to say about the pilot version of her that we know when you were saying I don't think she would do the podcast if this if they weren't and game I think I was thinking back to like
• 37:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: the way she's announced things in the past and the way that she's been outward with her work in the past where I was just like I don't know it doesn't to me it doesn't mean that they had to be I'm happy that it does mean that now but like at the time I was just like like she's done it on Instagram live and like Tom Hiddleston used to walk around in a shirt that said I love Taylor Swift like they're just
• 37:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: But we're so used to the way Joe was and the way even like for the short time as she was with Mattie like what that Yeah, and so much time has passed and she has she's so much older like she is like a full ten years older than she was During the Tom Hiddleston era, which I think is really easy to forget because she did fall off the radar for a little bit there not really but like in her physical form, you know, she wasn't seen so I think it was in physically see me see me for three years yeah exactly
• 38:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I guess that was like three years.
• 38:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was gonna go with it.
• 38:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, okay, Phoebe's right.
• 38:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm wrong.
• 38:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was gonna say Phoebe's right.
• 38:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm wrong, which she would have loved.
• 38:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: But okay, anyway, but I just, yeah, I think, and I'll pull it into the summer I turn pretty for all you guys just a quick little moment here.
• 38:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I also keep forgetting that there's been like a four or five year time jump in that show.
• 38:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: So like all of the smoke I have for Conrad and who he's been.
• 38:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's grown and like that's hard for me to remember because seasons are next to each other but we're saying there's five years now Jeremiah on the other hand has not you know and so like I keep being like I don't I think Conrad's getting a good edit this season and that's why I'm like
• 38:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think she should be with anybody, but if Conrad has really evolved in this version, who he's showing us is really, he is now five years later.
• 39:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that this is somebody I could get behind her being with.
• 39:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: By the same token, I want her to go to Paris and choose for that.
• 39:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: But, sure, of Conrad at the bathtub.
• 39:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I know.
• 39:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 39:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why does he look so much hotter in the show than he does in real life?
• 39:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't understand that at all.
• 39:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm a little bit like belly.
• 39:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know I know.
• 39:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know.
• 39:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you don't watch this show.
• 39:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Who?
• 39:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, truly.
• 39:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I bet that.
• 39:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I bet she loves it.
• 39:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: She knows you will never believe what I'm watching.
• 39:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I love that.
• 39:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I need a texture because I have actually some awesome intel on the show, but anyway, okay.
• 39:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: So.
• 39:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Back to Taylor.
• 39:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love the caption.
• 39:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Your English teacher and your gym teacher are getting married.
• 39:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I loved it.
• 39:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's so classic Taylor.
• 39:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that the photos are beautiful.
• 39:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think the setup is beautiful.
• 39:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am dying to know these things.
• 39:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: One did she know to how long have they been engaged?
• 39:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Three did Taylor have input on the ring or did Travis fully like take this on himself?
• 40:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: five, what did the conversation go like between Travis and Scott, right?
• 40:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 40:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Did he ask?
• 40:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Of course.
• 40:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, went like around the, like, like, did he ask?
• 40:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: When did he ask?
• 40:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: When do you think about surgery?
• 40:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, when did that happen?
• 40:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: oh my god wait yes exactly like I wonder if that is when he did it just in case oh my god crazy I also want to know like okay what's the timeline here what what is the timeline I can't wait I hope that you will let us be privy to our wedding plans do you think she's having a wedding party yes well Blake be in it well here's the other thing of the day is it like it's birthday let's just say if this had been two years ago yes it had been two years ago
• 40:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: her wedding party would have been Blake slena Abigail Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena is a frigid Ella.
• 40:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, I guess they can't.
• 40:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, sorry, two years, two years, two years.
• 41:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm thinking squad.
• 41:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm thinking, okay, okay, pre-blake-blake-blake.
• 41:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: So Lena Blake slena Abigail Kara Zoe Kravitz.
• 41:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, wait, question.
• 41:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh, me and me, me just talked about this because we saw the pictures of Zoe and Harry and Rome.
• 41:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: and this creates an interesting wrinkle.
• 41:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and it's when I went and it gets crazy.
• 41:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it gets crazy because Jason Sedakas is really good friends with the Kelsey Brothers.
• 41:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that means that in theory, in this is absolute theory.
• 41:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: At the point where it could be at the wedding, Harry Styles is her plus one.
• 41:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jason Sedakas is invited.
• 41:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, no, I don't think he's bringing a little bit while with that does mean that he's not bringing our butt.
• 41:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, but there.
• 41:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, but he and Terry.
• 41:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
• 41:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: He and Harry, and then also Zoey Kravitz is friends with Olivia Wilde, or was.
• 41:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.
• 41:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's not crazy.
• 41:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, I mean, just for like, oh my god, think about the Taylor Travis wedding a couple days ago.
• 41:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Crazy.
• 41:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway.
• 42:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, what I was going to say was, okay, the wedding party Zoey could be in the party.
• 42:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 42:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: So V Turner is getting invited.
• 42:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so V Turner is invited.
• 42:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he was doing a bachelor rat, not just for the bridal party.
• 42:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's inviting all of her friends.
• 42:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's going to be some sort of, so is there, Margaret.
• 42:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Which is there, she's always there.
• 42:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: All the time, sister, I have to actually write none of them are in the wedding party.
• 42:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if they are, it's nasty.
• 42:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm thinking two years ago, then the flower, the flower people, or poor daddy makes kids.
• 42:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 42:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Blake is still invited to the wedding.
• 42:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
• 42:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think I don't think it's out of the question that she could be in it?
• 42:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't either.
• 42:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Depending on when the wedding is, do you think it's crazy that she dropped this on Blake's birthday because then people are saying that?
• 42:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think it all depends on when this happened.
• 42:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think if Blake cares about that, that's crazy.
• 42:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
• 42:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't especially think it's not like it's like a big birthday.
• 42:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like for the need.
• 42:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I need Blake to either post a congratulations post a Taylor look at her story or I need her to send Taylor flowers and I need to see the flowers on a story on Taylor story.
• 43:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here's what I need from these girls from these A-Listers.
• 43:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Wait.
• 43:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I also, for a second.
• 43:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: I gave a call.
• 43:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't come up and I was like, does she know it?
• 43:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know what she actually does.
• 43:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I need to point out though, like, again, we're not so talking about the Blake Justin stuff.
• 43:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, which is a very close scene or happy birthday posts.
• 43:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 43:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: But however, like, Blake.
• 43:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: continues to not look bad in the play and if you're keeping if you're not keeping up, then you might not know that and you might think your team Justin, but I am just letting you know.
• 43:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't been talking about it, but there is a ton of stuff that's still happening.
• 43:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Other castmates being named were getting a lot of unsealed documents.
• 43:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: naming complaints from one genny slate that was actually made on said naming HR complaints that were known about by waferer that were discussed in emails and then they go on and say they had no idea is got to be hundreds of thousands of dollars they paid jed to go on read it under unverified accounts and start theories of like these are things that they didn't talk me that they didn't think that all this would
• 44:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Isabel Affair?
• 44:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is that her name?
• 44:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: The young Blake.
• 44:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's now like being harassed.
• 44:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: She just said that Justin Beldoni has been harassing her since all the stuff because Blake subpoenaed her but only for like the things that she really needed and then way fairer just basically did like another subpoena on her where she's going to have to go through the entire process again for things that she already provided and things that they don't actually need that aren't actually crucial.
• 44:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like they were like we want everything from these dates
• 44:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Every conversation you had with Blake lively at all during these dates.
• 44:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Every conversation you have with anyone during these dates where Blake was like, can I have like these specific things?
• 44:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it was a lot less work like for her to do, but also as well as like, I'm not fucking paying a legal fee so that I can do a subpoena that I already fucking did for this case and then Justin's like harassing her about it.
• 45:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: So she came forward about that.
• 45:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: These are things that are happening now, and it's amazing that there's.
• 45:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now we're talking to Justin.
• 45:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're not talking about us.
• 45:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody single that stuff, but I do just want to say, like, there's also a chance to freedom and won't be allowed in court.
• 45:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: That they like, that is now coming up or like, they're like, he shouldn't be allowed in the courtroom because of the way that he's been handling himself.
• 45:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's how where it has gone, okay?
• 45:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just saying I don't actually think there's a big reason for Taylor to not like Blake.
• 45:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: What?
• 45:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like Taylor wasn't actually subpoenaed right?
• 45:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like it was thrown out.
• 45:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's so interesting that at the exact time that things start the tide starts to turn and how the court is viewing the case or how things are starting to play out and what's being found.
• 45:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: It starts not being talked about as much.
• 45:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know.
• 45:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's almost like we're being paid.
• 45:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's almost as though there was an organized smear case.
• 45:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that would be crazy.
• 45:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I do just think that
• 45:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe there's beef.
• 46:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they're not as close.
• 46:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just, again, I keep going back to the God.
• 46:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Another argument I don't think Taylor's cutting like out of her life.
• 46:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they're not friends.
• 46:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's a really good chance like it's at the wedding or as V. We said in it.
• 46:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I, I think it's made of honor though.
• 46:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that Taylor and Andrea, she's made of honor.
• 46:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, she's made of honor.
• 46:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they're, well, or it's gotten under her both walking her down the aisle also.
• 46:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: both of them, so.
• 46:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Caroline said that as low as she was the same.
• 46:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: The ham girls are playing different hurt on the aisle.
• 46:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're not in it because they are performing.
• 46:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm serious.
• 46:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: That would be perfect.
• 46:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: What are we what's on we think they're playing?
• 46:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that we've heard it yet.
• 46:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if it's a song Taylor writes for Travis at the ham sisters do.
• 46:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
• 46:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I'm planning this wedding.
• 46:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay, I'm planning this freaking wedding.
• 46:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I just nailed it.
• 46:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're acting like you don't think that's a great idea.
• 46:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it would be beautiful.
• 46:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: It would.
• 46:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that I would want to be played on the aisle by time, though.
• 46:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you wouldn't.
• 46:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: But do you think they're, they're, it's not like, I don't know.
• 46:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, she's looking for a way to get them involved.
• 47:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's not their song.
• 47:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: It wouldn't be, they do a cover of a song that Taylor chose, but it would be the three of them performing it.
• 47:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 47:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: It would be stunning.
• 47:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it's not, they're not going to sing their own song.
• 47:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll trust your vision.
• 47:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, thanks.
• 47:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, or it's Lord singing what was that?
• 47:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's no, either or.
• 47:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
• 47:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
• 47:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Those are the only do options.
• 47:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Or it's Kylie Kelsey doing a podcast.
• 47:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: A live podcast.
• 47:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
• 47:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kylie Kelsey's podcast.
• 47:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: She just had a hand in binder on and it was so funny.
• 47:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: She played this.
• 47:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's this video of Hannah in binder before she became of Hacks fame and it's her and her dad after the Eagles won the Super Bowl.
• 47:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: and she's she entered out or like plastered on the street and she gets a camera and a microphone in her face and she starts like crying about how excited she is at the Eagles just won and how excited this is for the city and all this stuff and she said that with the video doesn't show is that her dad went behind an alleyway as they were walking home and like had a moment of prayer to his dad and like people that had died that were also Eagles fans and he goes for you
• 48:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.
• 48:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.
• 48:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was awesome.
• 48:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I honestly really like Kylie Kelsey and her whole attitude on our podcast.
• 48:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Me too.
• 48:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: There he said it.
• 48:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
• 48:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was doing something like this.
• 48:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so any hill.
• 48:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I want to say about the Taylor wedding.
• 48:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do we have any other thoughts on the engagement before we move on to the love island reunion?
• 48:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to move enough information.
• 48:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, but more to come you guys.
• 48:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, we're going to be talking about this as long as we possibly can.
• 48:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
• 48:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we'll probably be at the wedding to cover it.
• 48:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: If I add to guess.
• 48:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, all right.
• 48:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's move on to this love island reunion, a holy freaking moli, two hours of pure bliss.
• 48:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, pure bliss isn't how I would describe it, but it was two hours and it was shocked it was two hours.
• 49:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not because I didn't think that there was, I do think there was, I wish they had edited it.
• 49:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: It could have been condensed, I think.
• 49:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like part of me thinks based on what Andy said, and was there better footage than what you guys included in the two hours?
• 49:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: I wanted the real, Andy was acting like, like, in fighting.
• 49:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: The girls were fighting.
• 49:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 49:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: A few things.
• 49:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, I just have to finish this one.
• 49:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I'm doing it.
• 49:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I took a bunch of notes, but I did feel like I've watched a twice, obviously.
• 49:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Second watch through skipped a lot of the stuff because I was like, this just I don't care honestly and I feel about to say it, the Hannah stuff.
• 49:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just was like, I hate it for you, but like I don't, I'm not that affected by it.
• 49:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was way more interested in the people I've really cared about were Iris and Pepe because of what's been going on.
• 49:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to get into a Maya and Brian, Nicolandria, Huda, Ace of the Shelley.
• 49:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Those are the people that I really like care to hear from.
• 49:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: My question?
• 49:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's my question.
• 49:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: My frustration.
• 50:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just about the reunion in general in the sack of it.
• 50:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think because of the way Love Island is, it's like, it's happening in real time.
• 50:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think they need to push the reunion to sex once after.
• 50:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because it's not enough time for it to be like because like at least even a little bit longer because I don't know.
• 50:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just think the emotions need to be raw, you know?
• 50:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: They wouldn't say even that's how the whole mission we're missing the breakups.
• 50:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's just enough time for them to all be happy couples at the reunion.
• 50:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Whereas like if they had waited even a month to do it, we could have been getting a little bit stressed about these unfollowings.
• 50:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to lie.
• 50:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do think these breakups were timed on purpose.
• 50:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like these men who are ruining things with these women they don't deserve, they knew they didn't want to have that going under the reunion.
• 50:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
• 50:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I do think like there might have been a little bit of Kenny Rodriguez sort of like playing bullshit where they're like, I will hold it out as long as I can.
• 51:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's get passes for union.
• 51:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that I don't have to answer for my sins.
• 51:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: And now there's never going to be an opportunity because everything sort of that I down.
• 51:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do think that the because this show is done in real time.
• 51:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like we need their emotions in real time.
• 51:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: If we give them too long, it will all seem ridiculous to them.
• 51:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and they will come back with the cleaned up stuff, which there was some cleaned up stuff, but it didn't really hold up because of how little time it passed.
• 51:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: For example,
• 51:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hoda coming in with her prep responses and oh, I've done so much growth in the past month and whatever, and he coming back and saying it's been one month and you're a completely different person.
• 51:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like if it had been a year, she could still say that it could still not mean anything, but we would have to accept it, you know?
• 51:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
• 51:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so let's let's get into it.
• 51:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: First of all, what a joy to see Andy and Ariana hosting this together.
• 51:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was not sure how it was going to go or how I was going to like it because I was like, I want Andy to just still acknowledge that this is Ariana space.
• 52:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like this is her arena.
• 52:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: You are a guest here.
• 52:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like he did.
• 52:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like, and I didn't sense any sort of annoyance from her that he was there at all.
• 52:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it was like, that was my favorite dish.
• 52:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 52:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because we know, she's been known to have a little bit of a chip on her shoulder at times in the fast, especially when it comes to bravo and to Andy.
• 52:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, and I think part of that is that she puts on this like host persona for Love Island.
• 52:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: So she was acting a little bit, but it's kind of like a great together.
• 52:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I think this happens a lot with reality TV generally is like part of the, it's like in that arena I am annoyed with you.
• 52:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that, yes, I would spit outside of it.
• 52:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's like more of a respect for each of us.
• 52:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
• 52:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and honestly, Ariana probably has so much more respect for Andy now that she lived all these lives she's lived since scandal.
• 52:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and she's probably like, look at the bullshit you've had to put up with for years.
• 52:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I only have to do it for the summer and like I'm exhausted, you know?
• 52:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 52:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, and I think also like hosting is one of those things that may be on the surface looks like it's not really a scale, but like that's a that's a really and frank different thing to do if you would show me this Ariana versus like season two vendor pump Ariana it's like how was that the same person yeah yeah hundred percent but then we should have been reminded that she is mad sketch comedy skills and shakes well it should take seriously seriously and so she's been to take everything that she attacks really seriously
• 53:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, let's try a virus in Pepe.
• 53:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: So also, I just have to say like, yes, I think Pepe is a hot guy.
• 53:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: But looking at him at this reunion, I was like, you look crazy.
• 53:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Your face looks crazy.
• 53:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's got the slits in both of his eyebrows.
• 53:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's got the weird little gochi.
• 53:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's got the like pub mustache.
• 53:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like he he looks crazy.
• 53:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: He looks like somebody that is trying extremely hard.
• 53:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And now knowing what I know.
• 53:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, okay, accurate assessment.
• 53:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I guess what do we know?
• 53:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 53:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you.
• 53:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 53:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you.
• 53:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so they're basically he and I rest are exclusive.
• 53:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's honest for Union talking about how like she thinks he needs to have like ready.
• 54:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 54:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: It seems like, I mean, I'm on Iris's side.
• 54:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I do think it's like she seems like a perfectly normal expectation of what goes into a relationship.
• 54:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I understand like
• 54:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: is his demeanor and what he's saying about it makes me feel like he's like ready to be boyfriend girlfriend because he's like that is a hundred percent how I saw it so he like he's exclusive as boyfriend girlfriend and then you're twenty five like that's just not the case because you and I can be hooking up and then we're like okay let's not see other people but still haven't said I'm your girlfriend
• 54:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I will say, as Pepe, I think there must be a little bit of a reason that he was like, oh, well, if, you know, I don't see it as a big deal.
• 54:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: In my mind, we're already boyfriend and girlfriend.
• 54:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: So why wouldn't you just ask her?
• 54:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I know because if you are actually boyfriend and girlfriend, then you have to actually break up.
• 54:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: That implies a greater level of responsibility.
• 54:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, not saying that them being exclusive didn't mean he wasn't supposed to sleep with anybody else.
• 54:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I do feel like putting that label on it.
• 54:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a different kind of sentiment.
• 55:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 55:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you agree?
• 55:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do.
• 55:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so for him, I'm like, if you want that and you don't think there's a difference and what's the hold up why won't you just do what she wants you to do an Oscar or is it because you don't actually want that label because you want the freedom to say well, she wasn't my girlfriend and she didn't want to be my she said, you know, I thought we were, but she said I had to ask her and so she didn't want it as much as me or something.
• 55:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's putting it on her a little bit.
• 55:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, sure.
• 55:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: So what happened is some girl, and I wanted to get her name, or I did get her name.
• 55:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to say it, but I wanted to get who exactly she wasn't.
• 55:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can't find it.
• 55:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: But this girl, she's like a sports broadcaster or something.
• 55:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And she posted on her Snapchat to her close friends, a Snapchat of her face that says, had sex with Pepe and the hotel lobby last night, and now have to work with him all day, gonna be sick.
• 55:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: and she put that on her close friends.
• 55:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was obviously spread around.
• 56:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's got an op.
• 56:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: She got an op on her.
• 56:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
• 56:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's got a major.
• 56:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I always think I'm like, who?
• 56:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I look at my close friends less.
• 56:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Who's the snitch?
• 56:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: If I post something, who's the snitch?
• 56:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you gotta wait those people out.
• 56:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I should do some cleaning up on there.
• 56:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, speaking, speaking.
• 56:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, this is a wake-up call for a moment.
• 56:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, it's the case I ever over share and say something insane like that.
• 56:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to make sure it's close friends only trust for the friends only.
• 56:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, so she posted that.
• 56:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Iris is friends then on follow Pepe.
• 56:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Iris on follow Pepe on Sunday August, twenty-fourth Pepe is now on follow at Iris.
• 56:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Iris is deleting all their photos together.
• 56:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's clear to me.
• 56:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Things that I see beyond the TikTok that TJ made that that like sound that it's like someone like acting like they're crying and then there's a beat in the song where they're like that.
• 56:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just did that trend.
• 56:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: The.
• 56:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 56:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: He does that.
• 56:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: He did that right after that.
• 56:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's when he's worth it.
• 56:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then then we saw Iris's fresh French manny on her story.
• 57:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, what do we see pop up on TJ's nap story holding a gigantic pickle.
• 57:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Iris's fresh French manny.
• 57:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I think they were hanging out like the next day.
• 57:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: They were hanging out.
• 57:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, good for them.
• 57:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Good for them.
• 57:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Look, he waited it out.
• 57:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: maybe he got his girl at the very least, maybe he's going to help her get over Pepe, but like, yeah, it's not like the bachelor, it's also not like bachelor and paradise where like they're expected.
• 57:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's more of like a love level to these relationships that I think the audience expects, whereas like love island, it's like, these are a bunch of, I mean, I know they're not college age, but like it feels like college, where it's like,
• 57:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're not super invested in each other.
• 57:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like annoyed that you did this and it makes me upset and I'm angry, but I wasn't in love with you.
• 57:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
• 57:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going to put the pushing.
• 57:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know.
• 57:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited for more information.
• 57:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hope that we get it.
• 57:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm just like, Pepe House, stupid, can you be?
• 57:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you actually majorly thumbled.
• 57:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: He introduced her to his parents.
• 57:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was like a whole thing.
• 57:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just think it's crazy.
• 58:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: So speaking of couple drama, let's talk about Brian and Amaya because they have also both unfollowed each other.
• 58:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, today.
• 58:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, a second plane has hit the towers like what this feels crazy to me, especially because I just publicly on the podcast gave him my endorsement right do we have
• 58:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: any information about this.
• 58:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: We don't have any information, but we have no.
• 58:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: We have what they addressed on the reunion, which I think matters here.
• 58:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if you recall, there was a video of Brian from like a club appearance he made where he was supporting shots.
• 58:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember.
• 58:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I saw the video.
• 58:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he was like flirting or checking girls out or whatever.
• 58:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're assuming there are people didn't like.
• 58:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I have, I am convinced I didn't see the video everybody was talking about.
• 58:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, because I saw this video you did of him and I was like, it looks like he was exactly what they described and I'm not taking Brian because we don't know the full story and we don't like whatever.
• 59:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I'm wrong.
• 59:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: It looks like he was paid with the other of Ireland guys to do an appearance at a club.
• 59:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: And like that, I could see Kyle doing that.
• 59:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it does.
• 59:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 59:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not like he was like making out.
• 59:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not that he's not that Kyle gets the standard.
• 59:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: But like, you know what I mean?
• 59:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like it, I could see him in Amanda being in an okay place and him still doing something like that.
• 59:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: and a hundred percent.
• 59:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not like Brian was like dancing on her or like wearing like and then kissing her like doing right.
• 59:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: It didn't seem and let's do it from video.
• 59:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't see it and think that.
• 59:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.
• 59:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 59:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 59:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, I know.
• 59:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that
• 59:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Also, I want to believe what Amaya said.
• 59:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's like, I'm not the kind of girl that's going to be with somebody that's going to disrespect me like she said that.
• 59:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and I believe her, um, but I did, I will say I thought that Chris's reaction was a little sus because they look over to Chris and they're like, okay, so, you know, Brian, you have this moment and Brian uses the word.
• 59:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I had a lapse of judgment, which I thought was interesting.
• 1:00:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Amaya's just like kind of nervous laughing and Andy catches at his equal.
• 1:00:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: What it kind of is what was the lapse of judgment.
• 1:00:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Ryan felt a little bit like
• 1:00:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was just trying to take and I'm not trying to defend him at all.
• 1:00:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I could see it if I'm trying to see the best in him.
• 1:00:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I wonder if it was his way of being like, I don't want someone to even say that I didn't do anything accountability for it.
• 1:00:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, it's a way to not do it fully.
• 1:00:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a way for him to be like, hey,
• 1:00:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: What I did, even though I wasn't making out with anybody or whatever, it was still too flirtier.
• 1:00:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this was still a lapse of judgment because people took it the way that they did.
• 1:00:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: So obviously, it was whatever.
• 1:00:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time, it sort of felt like, yeah, well, if it's the video that you and I saw in the story that he's telling on this stage where he's like, I was just pouring shots and stuff like then why would you say laps of what was the lapse of judgment?
• 1:00:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: So then Andy looks at Chris and says, well, you were there with him that night.
• 1:00:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: What did you see in Chris goes, I ain't see shit.
• 1:01:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, I thought that was weird, but here's what I'll say.
• 1:01:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: If it was one of the other guys on stage who said that, I would have really clocked it.
• 1:01:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: I did not that I didn't clock it.
• 1:01:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, that's kind of, that's what you would say if your buddy was doing some action and dust.
• 1:01:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: But the way Chris gives a, he wants, he wanted it to be a little bit dirty and messy and like not quiet.
• 1:01:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: but also I felt like if there was a time with Chris in the villa that he was like I want Brian and I to win this fucking thing and leave with our bitches whatever it takes and like that's why Chris wouldn't break up with her he was gonna make her do it like it was like he was gonna be in there like teeth sunk into the end and because he wanted to get to the end and I almost feel like he and some of the cost of boys specifically Brian like had had those conversations which is part of why I didn't totally believe Brian in the beginning but then he did win over
• 1:01:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And maybe Brian's intentions in the beginning weren't pure, you know?
• 1:01:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's totally possible that they developed over time.
• 1:01:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I just felt like I could see Chris being like, I will have your back, do whatever you want to do, get your back.
• 1:02:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's kind of the attitude I get from Chris now.
• 1:02:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just, I totally disagree.
• 1:02:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: I agree.
• 1:02:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I think because he has that attitude, I'm not surprised.
• 1:02:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't be surprised if nothing happened to me still.
• 1:02:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:02:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:02:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: True.
• 1:02:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: That is the other thing is like I could kind of be the way he's been.
• 1:02:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:02:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's just an I'm, but I'm also like, I think that who else was there, though, there for other people?
• 1:02:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Why did we only ask Chris what they what he saw?
• 1:02:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I think that was also there.
• 1:02:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Zach.
• 1:02:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, right.
• 1:02:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I honestly all those any boy.
• 1:02:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why we trust any boy.
• 1:02:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they would all fucking cover for each other.
• 1:02:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm also just like if I believe with the amount.
• 1:02:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I spend on my phone.
• 1:02:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: If there was a video of Brian doing something super, super damning.
• 1:02:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: It just would have to throw them across by this scene.
• 1:02:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:02:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: No exactly.
• 1:02:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Get it.
• 1:02:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know.
• 1:02:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Good.
• 1:02:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: get it on my desk.
• 1:02:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, get it on my desk, you know.
• 1:02:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Um, we would buy it the way I meant to circle back with Adidas.
• 1:03:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: She put in her predictions for the album.
• 1:03:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: We will check in and it's midnight.
• 1:03:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we'll never.
• 1:03:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's really well.
• 1:03:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was one of my favorite moments of my life, probably.
• 1:03:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, that's so sweet.
• 1:03:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I don't know.
• 1:03:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I guess cleared up these club rumors there.
• 1:03:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Things seemed good there, but now they've unfollowed.
• 1:03:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I hope, I hope it's a misunderstanding and they were just doing it to fan the flames of the reunion, but I just don't feel that that's what was happening there.
• 1:03:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And my opposed to the reunion and Brian's not in any of her photos.
• 1:03:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't love, am I at the fucking absolute angel though?
• 1:03:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, let's move on to Hoda, because I have a lot to say about Hoda.
• 1:03:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's our her and Chris.
• 1:03:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I got to be for real here.
• 1:03:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought Chris was giving bitch boy.
• 1:03:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, for sure.
• 1:03:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like any which is also buddy was giving in the villa and I kind of forgot that with some time.
• 1:03:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's why his answer about the brine and a Maya thing was like you were to just give like he's
• 1:04:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's too good for this.
• 1:04:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:04:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I could have been playing ball overseas.
• 1:04:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go.
• 1:04:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then go.
• 1:04:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: He also was like, you're not dressed appropriately.
• 1:04:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just up for this.
• 1:04:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hello, you're in the presence of Andy Cohen.
• 1:04:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Have some respect.
• 1:04:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like a few people need to that.
• 1:04:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Needed that memo.
• 1:04:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Mostly.
• 1:04:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, and I'm not an ace defender, but like ace came.
• 1:04:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't.
• 1:04:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think you look like a guard for the buzzer boss for the buzzer.
• 1:04:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: However, however, he was dressed for the occasion.
• 1:04:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was dressed.
• 1:04:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And honestly,
• 1:04:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's exactly what I expect from Ace.
• 1:04:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: He said, I'm going to show up or speckful and dressed for the occasion in my own way that is a little bit questionable, but like, it's no works and shows that I have respect for what's happening.
• 1:04:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so Chris, I mean, even in the beginning when Andy's like, how are you guys feeling being here and how does like I'm finding Chris is like, it's weird for me.
• 1:04:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why is it weird for you?
• 1:04:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Especially finding out that she called you a few days ago.
• 1:04:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: All the weirdness should be squat.
• 1:04:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: What is it?
• 1:04:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think it was, I kept being like, why are you?
• 1:04:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: it's like he's like he's like he and I know she didn't hurt herably and yeah then like she she's trying to be like it's not weird it's not like it's I mean it's like we're here with the friends no his answer no like he just what did she do that was so terrible to you Chris like there's a questionable behavior there you guys were both shitty to each other yes she I mean
• 1:05:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can't get behind her there's something about I just like I can't but by the same token, I can't get behind grass because I don't think that's what's in it's like with Michelle and
• 1:05:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jesse on the value.
• 1:05:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like yeah, it should be so easy for me to like Michelle.
• 1:05:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: It should be so easy to Chris or her to the side, but they both like for the other.
• 1:05:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I just thought like he seemed like he was being kind of dramatic with the whole thing, especially finding out that the dichotomy of him being so nonchalant, but they also like like do you want to be here or not?
• 1:06:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
• 1:06:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
• 1:06:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: It seems like you want your fifteen minutes.
• 1:06:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: You want your bag, but you're also like so above this and this is also below you.
• 1:06:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 1:06:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: So there was that.
• 1:06:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then let's talk about legally I can't I can't say about relationships because of Netflix.
• 1:06:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I thought Andy Coleman was gonna stand up over there, swat her.
• 1:06:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, I was like, you're turning to Andy.
• 1:06:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what you're speaking to?
• 1:06:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was gonna say, I would die.
• 1:06:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I bought, when I re-watched, I was like, I would die by, I was like, oh, really?
• 1:06:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, she had, it was like early V-B-R-A-R-I'm literally, I'm literally just like, put on a bar and go into a little bit of a handle.
• 1:06:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: And who's that?
• 1:06:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, wait, is she?
• 1:06:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, but I'm just saying, it's gonna be one of the, well, here's why.
• 1:06:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you why.
• 1:06:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's Netflix shows, it's like, who?
• 1:06:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's perfect match.
• 1:06:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, but that's literally the show that already was airing.
• 1:06:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what she's saying this.
• 1:06:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's saying this season.
• 1:06:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, she's dating a guy who's on it.
• 1:06:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so it's not even like she's on the show.
• 1:06:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: No!
• 1:06:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: No!
• 1:06:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's dating Louie from Perfect Match.
• 1:07:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because I was like, oh my god.
• 1:07:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Who's known to be a fuck boy?
• 1:07:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's one of Miguel's friends with us.
• 1:07:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's a little violent.
• 1:07:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know.
• 1:07:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: In my brain, I was like, oh, she's about to go on one of these things.
• 1:07:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go
• 1:07:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: It that's what that's that's that's what that's where my mind a minute, but I didn't know that I didn't I didn't Yeah, she went I don't know if it was the perfect match.
• 1:07:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can hear all the police went.
• 1:07:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, everybody was like a happy space everyone's face.
• 1:07:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, and you know she couldn't wait to say that she had that prepped and ready and locked and loaded.
• 1:07:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: She was like I can't speak on my release.
• 1:07:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's full legal reasons and she still didn't like
• 1:07:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: eat with it.
• 1:07:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, it doesn't land in the world.
• 1:07:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's like everything she says, but she always believes she eats and that is why she's like, I will always be successful because no matter what everyone in this room can be laughing on me, rolling their eyes, I know it.
• 1:07:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like that's just the way she walks through this world.
• 1:07:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm jealous of the delusion.
• 1:08:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that, well, so what it is is she's seeing this guy, Louie, who is friends with Miguel.
• 1:08:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And there's been a lot of talk about how Louie is a major cloud chaser.
• 1:08:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And like that, he's been not a good dude.
• 1:08:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: My girls, he friends are questionable.
• 1:08:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, his Miguel's friends are definitely questionable.
• 1:08:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't really show up well on the perfect match, like, I mean, he's known for being kind of like a massive fuck boy on these shows.
• 1:08:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: So he's on this season with Clayton with Rachel, like, that's the season.
• 1:08:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
• 1:08:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm on Nightmare.
• 1:08:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 1:08:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, so she attended a red carpet event with them.
• 1:08:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: They held hands on a red carpet.
• 1:08:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm on Nightmare.
• 1:08:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Are you sure?
• 1:08:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 1:08:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because I did, um, I, yes.
• 1:08:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 1:08:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I'd be here now.
• 1:08:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, I just, I'm, you made me think of, I just need to write it down.
• 1:08:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: But they, I don't know if it was the perfect match reunion or a perfect match premiere.
• 1:09:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: What, but they attended something.
• 1:09:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: So like, they've been seen out and about multiple times together.
• 1:09:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: They've been snapped by paparazzi.
• 1:09:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: They were on a red carpet.
• 1:09:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And now she's coming on here and saying, she can't talk about that.
• 1:09:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: So they were like, well, you were just photographed with somebody, can you?
• 1:09:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that's why.
• 1:09:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Andy doesn't play those games.
• 1:09:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's not her show.
• 1:09:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not a hood of the show is that's not the reason she gets because her fucking man.
• 1:09:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Her boyfriend show.
• 1:09:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can't tell you and say, but you're but he can take you to carpet.
• 1:09:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, yeah.
• 1:09:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it doesn't seem like I don't want to talk about it.
• 1:09:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like.
• 1:09:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: I wonder, I think she like, she didn't want, maybe answer for being in a new relationship quite yet.
• 1:09:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: But she still was super excited to be like, for a legal reason.
• 1:09:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes, she was like, this is, this is the most a list response.
• 1:09:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I could literally possibly have this question.
• 1:09:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Her response to the hurricane, Huda Montage, had me dying like she was laughing like it was comedy hours for SNL audition real.
• 1:09:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just like, you look, I mean, it is funny for me, but the fact that she sees it as funny is kind of the same.
• 1:10:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God, and everyone's reactions like no one is laughing with you girl.
• 1:10:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're all like what the fuck.
• 1:10:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's especially the clip of her like in the bed, like I'm going to give you the counter through you to Chris like some bad moments for her that she is throwing your head back and laughing at.
• 1:10:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: She thinks everything she does is the funniest thing that's ever been done.
• 1:10:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that is, I just, she kisses me off.
• 1:10:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: She cannot, cannot live in reality for one moment.
• 1:10:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: It just is crazy.
• 1:10:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about Huda and Shelley.
• 1:10:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Couple things.
• 1:10:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: One thing I want to start this whole thing off by saying is I do think Hoda should have spoken up on the racial mistreatment and racially motivated bullying that a Landria and Shelley were getting online.
• 1:10:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just would have been so easy for her to do.
• 1:10:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: So easy.
• 1:10:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just has easy as it was for her to go say she didn't get a BBL just as easy as it was for her to go online and say it defend her saying the thing about the Netflix.
• 1:10:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like she did that yesterday on Instagram defended her making that statement, but you still couldn't say anything about that.
• 1:11:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: The things that I mean,
• 1:11:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: The things that were being put online, they involved Huda.
• 1:11:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't just like Shelley and Alandria where the target of this kind of hate and Huda wasn't.
• 1:11:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know Huda should have said something.
• 1:11:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was Huda's fans.
• 1:11:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was happening from Huda HQ accounts and Huda's face was in these photos with them.
• 1:11:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not appropriate.
• 1:11:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Huda should have said something.
• 1:11:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: She had an opportunity last night to say something as well.
• 1:11:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: She did end.
• 1:11:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't respect it.
• 1:11:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't respect her standing up there and saying, well, I was also getting racially motivated.
• 1:11:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, okay, Huda, it's not the same.
• 1:11:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry what you experience is not
• 1:11:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: comparable to what these girls experienced, and I think it's ugly that you can't realize that.
• 1:11:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's the first thing I want to say, but the next thing I want to say is that I do think Shelley is Mean Girls tendencies.
• 1:11:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I agree to.
• 1:11:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want any, any heat I have.
• 1:11:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's I don't really have any furlandria.
• 1:11:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Landria sees it.
• 1:11:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: My old tempered.
• 1:11:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: She seems like she is willing to kind of hear her to side.
• 1:12:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think there's just a maturity to a landria that I think Shelley and I think there's Shelley's not so full wear.
• 1:12:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like when they watch back that scene, I'm like my god.
• 1:12:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you guys had been standing in and again, I don't like a very much at all.
• 1:12:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:12:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it's like if I was hooda and I was over there working out and bikini in front of all these people and I and it looks like you all this group of people were looking at me and laughing and talking and like whatever I would feel uncomfortable and then and then what I will say is like you don't see yourselves in that clip you where you are talking about her looking at her and then you see her doing the poses you make a comment about that and you go I think she thinks we're like over here looking at her talking about you are doing that
• 1:12:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: or not.
• 1:12:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, exactly what's happening.
• 1:12:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is me and you guys are standing here watching here and you go, look, she's over there posing for you guys because she thinks you're like being fun friends and you're actually talking shit.
• 1:12:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: One of the few moments I actually felt bad for Hoda.
• 1:13:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was one of them.
• 1:13:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I felt like they showed back the conversation where Hoda was like, hey, I want to bring Chris back because I want to get to know him, but it also works out for you.
• 1:13:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Shelly is saying before she's like, all you said, hoodo is like, I'm doing this for you for you for you.
• 1:13:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not doing this for me.
• 1:13:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing this for you.
• 1:13:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then you got to know him.
• 1:13:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was blindsided.
• 1:13:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm sorry.
• 1:13:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: We watched that whole fucking clip.
• 1:13:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's it is.
• 1:13:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And what happened to hoodo?
• 1:13:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: is how Shelley still sees it as a win.
• 1:13:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: But Shelley's like, well, I think there were other clips that weren't shown because we had that conversation a lot.
• 1:13:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Regardless whether or not you did this conversation, Hoda is saying you, I want you to get to no Chris.
• 1:13:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: It also works for you.
• 1:13:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: But let me being no bones about it.
• 1:13:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like him.
• 1:13:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: He likes me.
• 1:13:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want to get to know him.
• 1:13:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to bring him back.
• 1:13:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, Shelley continuously said, I understand, I understand, did it look like Shelley agreed?
• 1:13:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, did it seem like Shelley was particularly thrilled?
• 1:13:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, like it seemed like Shelley was like, oh, this is what that was your opportunity to say that understand.
• 1:14:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:14:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: told her over and over you and you know what it'd be someone who's kind of who does a listener not uh uh see her she's not put enough on your body language or maybe your tone she's just hearing that you're okay with it so you have to tell her point blank if you're not cool with it and you don't say it you could not expect her to know that exactly she is too wrapped up in herself she has the aridisees she does not have a self-awareness to see
• 1:14:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: and he sort of reaction that you're having that isn't the words you were saying.
• 1:14:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: And even then sometimes she's not going to get them, you know?
• 1:14:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the fact that Shelley's like, well, that's just not what, and I was like, this is not a good moment for Shelley.
• 1:14:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we're not the way she thought it would.
• 1:14:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: No.
• 1:14:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I do totally buy that Shelley and Ace did not have a relationship prior to this.
• 1:14:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think we can stop talking about are they scammers like, no, I don't think so.
• 1:14:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: So probably be together forever, but honestly it makes more sense now.
• 1:14:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because Shelley is a lot older than Ace.
• 1:14:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it it makes more sense like she doesn't seem as old as she is, you know, so it makes sense that she would kind of and it seems a little older than he is.
• 1:15:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I think they kind of mean the middle of that way.
• 1:15:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:15:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, okay, I'm a little straight out here.
• 1:15:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't hurt rate challenge.
• 1:15:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the heart rate challenge.
• 1:15:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 1:15:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can I be crazy?
• 1:15:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, was it that much worse than what we saw?
• 1:15:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
• 1:15:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
• 1:15:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I actually texted someone in my opinions on it and then like, heading anxiety after and I'm like, are they going to think I'm what are they saying?
• 1:15:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, they agreed to me.
• 1:15:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I was like, um, I mean, it's what we thought.
• 1:15:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's what we already filled in the blanks for ourselves.
• 1:15:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
• 1:15:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: But here's my thing that is troublesome to me about Shelley.
• 1:15:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Two things.
• 1:15:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: One, what Chris was doing was basically
• 1:15:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: somewhat similar to what we just did the camera didn't focus on it so we don't even know what Chris was doing but my other thing is
• 1:15:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe, I think this is coming from a place of insecurity, but surely because Ace looked into it.
• 1:15:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Ace was super excited.
• 1:15:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Was into it.
• 1:15:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: We cannot forget that Ace and Hooda had a fucking weird unspoken thing from day one.
• 1:16:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: They did.
• 1:16:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think they were both looking for moments that they couldn't get away with getting physical with each other.
• 1:16:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, scratching that edge in a challenge so that they didn't have to explore it on another level.
• 1:16:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the way that like when she turned around and started
• 1:16:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: working in his face.
• 1:16:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was an opportunity for Ace to put his hand, you know, but instead he like put his hand on her and was like injuring.
• 1:16:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like he was he was so into it the whole time and also like the making out because there's one thing for me to be giving for me Caroline to be giving somebody a lap dance for me to be working on it or something like that, you know, that's one thing.
• 1:16:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: But for us to be engaging in it and it's a mutual thing.
• 1:16:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, again, they talk about say, of course it was consensual.
• 1:16:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's not what I mean.
• 1:16:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, a mutual right both of our lips are moving in our tongues or any others, but we're literally swapping spit.
• 1:16:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think for surely to me, the reason it's annoying and doesn't make sense to me, because it feels like misplaced.
• 1:17:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: frustration and anger.
• 1:17:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:17:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: She could be like, well, why were you letting her do all this?
• 1:17:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, why were you like, why didn't you try to stop her from kissing?
• 1:17:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:17:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't you try to stop her when hurt when her mouth was going too far up your leg.
• 1:17:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why did we know?
• 1:17:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ace will speak up for himself, you know, if Ace is like what's happening, Ace will tell you.
• 1:17:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I have no doubt that Ace would have been like that's enough, you know, and he would have not reciprocated, so Huda wouldn't have kept going back for more.
• 1:17:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, now did Huda take it too far?
• 1:17:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
• 1:17:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:17:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 1:17:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: But that's good.
• 1:17:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it's not like we didn't even see.
• 1:17:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I also just have a time taking issue with that on this kind of show and this kind of challenge when all of you were doing crazy stuff.
• 1:17:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And one of my issues too is that Shelley has zero smoke for Ace over this.
• 1:17:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that's a guy who I'm saying is that she's not like, it's misplaced anger.
• 1:17:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: She's insecure about how Ace felt about that interaction or how she's perceiving that he did, which is great.
• 1:18:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think her perception is a hundred percent accurate.
• 1:18:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I agree.
• 1:18:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And she's
• 1:18:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: blaming your own, like, hood of shouldn't have done that.
• 1:18:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not a should have put his hand up and stopped it.
• 1:18:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's you shouldn't have been doing that.
• 1:18:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 1:18:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: When it's literally a challenge and also Shelley, you're the one who's like, and I don't remember the timeline exactly, but for most of the show, Shelley was like, I'm not ready to be exclusive with Ace.
• 1:18:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: This brings me to my next point.
• 1:18:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Another qualm I'm having with Shelley.
• 1:18:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Shelley says in the beginning when they're talking about how ACE and Shelley were not the winners.
• 1:18:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: They were kicked off whatever.
• 1:18:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Shelley says I think people forgot the plot of the show.
• 1:18:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this is love island.
• 1:18:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're supposed to be making connections blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:18:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 1:18:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: You mean the plot?
• 1:18:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: You changed when we're having the conversation about who should go home when we voted Hannah out.
• 1:18:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: All the girls are like, well, Hannah and Pepp, I have a real connection.
• 1:18:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to break that up for her.
• 1:18:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Shelley says, I'm not sold on this making this decision based on connections.
• 1:18:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: We should be exploring.
• 1:18:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: So which is it when it suits the narrative?
• 1:18:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's ace and Shelley are upset that the audience started to pick up on the way the system they set up early on in ace, ace helped with the with the
• 1:19:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jeremiah's any German home.
• 1:19:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't want to give Austin any any credit for anything last night because he was young drugs like what do I take my I texted my friend and I said Austin is I think you might have memory loss because there's something eerily earnest about a stupidity
• 1:19:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know, but I think he's just really that good at being dumb.
• 1:19:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And like that's how he just probably wreaks havoc on so many fucking women.
• 1:19:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, and I just work on them because they're like, he's not smart enough to like purposely drag me through hell.
• 1:19:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, I think he is.
• 1:19:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's just also a really good actor.
• 1:19:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: But he's stupid.
• 1:19:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's just, I don't know why it works for him.
• 1:19:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't get it.
• 1:19:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: He is a fucking monster in my opinion.
• 1:19:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's just grody to me, but
• 1:19:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: He literally looked over at someone and goes, it's the, what did he say?
• 1:19:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: The system you created when they're talking about ace and how like evidence calling him the ring leader and blah, blah, blah, and talking about the connection thing.
• 1:20:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, it's the system you created.
• 1:20:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Same with Shelley, like we kicked Hannah out because of the system you created.
• 1:20:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: If I'm Hannah and they're making me watch that entire conversation and everyone's giving different reasons for not sending Hannah home.
• 1:20:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And at the very end, they say let's all say it at once and all three of them said Hannah.
• 1:20:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, do's poor.
• 1:20:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then they're like, okay, let's do it America said.
• 1:20:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, America also put you at the bottom.
• 1:20:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: So no matter what Hannah, you were a fucking goner.
• 1:20:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I would have been off the stage.
• 1:20:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Especially when the landry goes, oh, so it looks like we like, did what America wanted?
• 1:20:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, yeah, it's so good.
• 1:20:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're welcome.
• 1:20:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're welcome.
• 1:20:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: We just, it would have hurt more coming from America.
• 1:20:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we just, we just, we just sent a for you.
• 1:20:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I just thought that was crazy.
• 1:20:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, okay.
• 1:20:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's chat for a second about Ace.
• 1:20:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ace.
• 1:20:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead.
• 1:20:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would never get over the fact that during the season, and I'm a little bit annoyed that the hatred that was put on a Maya by the guys in the villa, it wasn't really discussed last night, as much as like that to me was such a pivotal point of the summer.
• 1:21:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's so much of a Maya story.
• 1:21:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, yes, it is.
• 1:21:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: As the viewer is rallied around her in that.
• 1:21:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 1:21:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: and it really irritated the men.
• 1:21:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we did not talk about that at all now.
• 1:21:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think I don't like that consistently ace makes himself a victim in that situation.
• 1:21:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Where he's like, when Amaya ended up apologizing to ace in the village.
• 1:21:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then last night, when he's like, and frankly, when this happened, when someone was like, is there anything else we all want to talk about?
• 1:21:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he said Amaya's name, I was like, oh my gosh, he watched that back and he's going to apologize for how he did her.
• 1:21:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he says, I don't like what you said when you went on Alex Cooper's podcast about me being short.
• 1:21:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: This was crazy to me.
• 1:21:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: First of all, men are so fucking fragile.
• 1:21:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: They are such little fragile weak babies.
• 1:21:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: You wouldn't have left that in a minute.
• 1:21:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: In a minute of shoes.
• 1:21:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and out of everything that could have been said about you people, the things that you actually give a fuck about are about your height, which is crazy.
• 1:22:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like even when Ace was like, Austin, you called me the little ringleader.
• 1:22:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I did not say you were little.
• 1:22:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: I did not say you were little.
• 1:22:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's like that would be the worst possible thing you could have done.
• 1:22:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just their egos.
• 1:22:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's bonkers.
• 1:22:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's bonkers, but
• 1:22:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: The thing about that is like, even Amaya saying, well, Ace, I called you and we had a conversation about this and I told you my team, I had no idea Alex Cooper was gonna make that into like sort of a sizzle reel that got people thinking and I had my team working on it to get that taken down.
• 1:22:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I never would have condoned that.
• 1:22:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I called you, I apologize, we talked it out.
• 1:22:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't care for what Ace said about how, well, you call me in behind closed review of a private conversation where you apologize and then it's just like different in public.
• 1:22:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, well, it was already circulating in public.
• 1:22:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's the one thing.
• 1:22:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, a Maya didn't post it so she could not physically take it down.
• 1:22:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Alex Cooper had to be the one to do that.
• 1:22:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's the first thing.
• 1:22:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: The second thing is, Ace, aren't the private conversations were meaningful?
• 1:22:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's like, which one is it?
• 1:22:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because then we go like, well, you're only apologizing because we're in front of a camera and you want to win America back.
• 1:23:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Whereas a Maya wasn't even going to bring up the two guys spoke.
• 1:23:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're the reason we're finding out that she had a conversation where she called you to take accountability.
• 1:23:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you're saying that wasn't enough.
• 1:23:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's so clear that, I don't know, Maya is like the only person on that stage who truly doesn't care about America's perception of her.
• 1:23:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: She cares, and Ace is one of the Ace's Shelley Hooda, all these people there, the people that are like thinking about the perception.
• 1:23:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think Hooda isn't an interesting position where like she doesn't have to worry about her as much because her hooda HQ will just get behind her.
• 1:23:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was fine.
• 1:23:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:23:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Which I don't.
• 1:23:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a little different.
• 1:23:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: But like with with this ace in a Maya thing, it's like
• 1:23:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: So maybe the private conversation was fine because he felt like the victim in that moment.
• 1:23:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: And now it's like, well, I want to bring it up here so that I have, I know.
• 1:23:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: This moment where people can be like, oh, what should you shot that moment?
• 1:23:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it wasn't.
• 1:23:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're just secretly still so pissed.
• 1:23:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: They didn't win because they think they should have won.
• 1:24:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: So they're like, let me just spread them out.
• 1:24:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: All these other two.
• 1:24:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you guys had been in the top three or four, you still was the one.
• 1:24:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: You still wouldn't have won.
• 1:24:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
• 1:24:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: What do we think of Nick and Alandria are we buying it?
• 1:24:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am and I'm so I'm so nervous about Nick because of the way that he like how much it seemed like he like Sierra how much it seemed like he
• 1:24:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's a good actor so I'm a little bit like worried like if he hurts or he won't survive it.
• 1:24:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm also just like I hope that they're they're so aware of how big the fan bases.
• 1:24:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hope that that's not driving this relationship.
• 1:24:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I like what he said about the Sierra when Ariana was like if you see her and he was like no and I don't plan to.
• 1:24:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know.
• 1:24:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 1:24:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 1:24:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 1:24:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 1:24:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 1:24:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 1:24:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 1:24:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 1:24:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 1:24:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 1:24:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 1:24:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 1:24:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 1:24:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 1:24:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 1:24:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 1:24:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I do, I mean, I saw some of you talk about that.
• 1:24:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he talked about that.
• 1:24:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was like, I don't like so much of her social media presence now is about like reclaiming this and brother.
• 1:25:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
• 1:25:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let me get what I'm trying to do.
• 1:25:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can.
• 1:25:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: What happened?
• 1:25:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: And like why you kicked out of the villa?
• 1:25:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
• 1:25:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I have seen some people talking about like, I mean, they're like, Nick, you are such a fuck boy.
• 1:25:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you had sex with Sierra every night and you won't even speak to her when you leave the villa.
• 1:25:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do think like,
• 1:25:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I understand what he's saying, but there was a time when she wasn't posting like that and I would say like as Sierra, I could understand how that would be.
• 1:25:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: But was any still in the villa?
• 1:25:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Really.
• 1:25:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, no, there was like a whole, he said there was a whole week that he got his mind straight and then he was going to go talk to her and then she started posting that stuff.
• 1:25:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, I know I get it, but it just seems like it would have made sense to wrap that by no, it's a sticky situation, but I do think like,
• 1:25:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why I kind of feel like she was owed the courtesy.
• 1:25:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like they didn't get to take it by in the villa.
• 1:25:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: She just was gone.
• 1:25:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I do think they should let that happen.
• 1:25:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think the production was so afraid that that would take up the conversations and like the actual accuracy would become the conversation, but I do think their relationship was owed that.
• 1:26:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do too and and it would make me feel less like he was just like Like good at faking it and turning it on and off, you know But maybe he just never really liked Sierra and he did like a lander the whole time like I don't know I do hope a lander is still his phone and and did a little Janae check Oh Me too me fucking do the other thing is I loved how he was like everything that she wants I want to make it happen like that's where we are right now, but again I'm like why aren't we boyfriend or girlfriend what what's the
• 1:26:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: What I think is just like we better not get on followings, but they're commercial spot last night.
• 1:26:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, okay, we to you two are probably getting the most money from this.
• 1:26:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't get a single commercial.
• 1:26:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Really?
• 1:26:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, lucky.
• 1:26:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they had a commercial spot and it's like Nick jumping in a pool and he's like her butler or something and he like brings her drink and then they make out on along on like a like a chase.
• 1:27:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:27:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right.
• 1:27:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, do you have any other final thoughts before we wrap up on Love Island?
• 1:27:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, but it was great.
• 1:27:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I do think Jeremiah and Bell Dasha had sex and now they're not.
• 1:27:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
• 1:27:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Belda, like he said a full A. Belda, Shay.
• 1:27:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Belda, Shay, Bella.
• 1:27:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's like, yeah.
• 1:27:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I did watch the show.
• 1:27:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, Andy, do you know where we are?
• 1:27:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, let's go down here.
• 1:27:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: It is funny.
• 1:27:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I loved when she went.
• 1:27:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is probably going to be adopted into my vocabulary when she goes, it is time for just Bella.
• 1:27:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know.
• 1:27:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Larry, I really do feel she and Jeremiah had sex or at least hooked up something or whatever and then she's still into him and they decided to just be friends and she's like, you know what, I'm choosing me.
• 1:28:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like that's the vibe of this.
• 1:28:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: My other one other moment from the reunion was when one of the Villa girl, one of the Casa girls was talking and Andy was like, okay,
• 1:28:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like either gonna ask a follow-up question or like was ready to move on and she goes, no, I'm gonna talk.
• 1:28:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Coco!
• 1:28:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know I thought she like put her hand goes, okay.
• 1:28:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, holy fuck, do you know who you're talking to?
• 1:28:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you know who you're talking to?
• 1:28:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you know who you're talking to?
• 1:28:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you know who you're talking to?
• 1:28:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: You played in this season.
• 1:28:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: You were on here for like two days.
• 1:28:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I do, I do just get the, I hate it.
• 1:28:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry for you guys.
• 1:28:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: The cost of girls, but I do just get the egg for them in the way that they behave when they get out.
• 1:28:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Cause it's like, it's the same attitude of Sierra.
• 1:28:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm gonna try to get every ounce of attention from this I can because I didn't get to make the most of it in the villa.
• 1:28:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, exactly.
• 1:28:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Those are just the hands you were dealt.
• 1:28:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
• 1:28:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's that and that's that I will be tuned again for love island games.
• 1:28:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so thrilled.
• 1:28:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know I know it'll be awesome.
• 1:28:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's get into rotations.
• 1:29:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm dream.
• 1:29:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 1:29:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't prep it because I thought that I was nightmare.
• 1:29:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: But if you think I'm not putting Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey and Taylor's engagement ring on my presentation, you're out of your goddamn eye.
• 1:29:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know, that's my dream.
• 1:29:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was really good.
• 1:29:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was a gift to there.
• 1:29:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Easy, peasy.
• 1:29:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I can't wait to learn more.
• 1:29:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
• 1:29:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: My nightmare is Clayton Eckerd.
• 1:29:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 1:29:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Did you watch any of perfect match?
• 1:29:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I watched a couple episodes.
• 1:29:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I watched enough of it to see them right.
• 1:29:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, which was I mean, but I am like, and then what Rachel said, you see a Rachel said, no, what Rachel said that Clayton told her that their lifestyles weren't compatible because he once a gym girl.
• 1:29:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: you're kidding me.
• 1:29:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, Phoebe, this is crazy because he went on vial files, which I'm not really listening to, but I wanted to hear what he had to say because because it was kind of rigged him across really hard on him.
• 1:29:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Nick was like, all this guy's done all this therapy and he's still acting like this.
• 1:29:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's not perfect.
• 1:29:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh my god, like it.
• 1:30:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: They were talking at that.
• 1:30:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And like he was like, could late and like, what were you thinking?
• 1:30:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, fully asked him.
• 1:30:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I listened to it and Clayton says, yeah, we just, you know, we had a conversation with nothing physical happened that night.
• 1:30:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: We just cut old.
• 1:30:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: We had a conversation that night and it became clear that like,
• 1:30:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, there's reasons we weren't going to work out.
• 1:30:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to speak on that out of respect to her, but like, yeah, I just, and I was like, yes, I told him what were those reasons he made it.
• 1:30:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, I don't want to, I thought it was like political, maybe, or that, and Nick was like, I mean, she made it seem like she's into the influencer life.
• 1:30:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's in a party and like, and he's not like, and like, she wants to be famous and he doesn't, which doesn't.
• 1:30:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to be famous.
• 1:30:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to be famous.
• 1:30:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to be famous.
• 1:30:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to be famous.
• 1:30:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to be famous.
• 1:30:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to be famous.
• 1:30:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to be famous.
• 1:30:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: especially with your I can't believe honestly it makes me just credit a lot of his whole vibe that he went back on a dating show because I'm just like I thought the bachelor ruined your life and you're like this is you know whatever but but yeah he said he kept me like oh I just I don't know like say about her like I mean you know and and next like don't you think you owe her that like couldn't you tell Rachel like hey by the way this is why didn't work and he's like I guess if she like wants to know but I don't think she wants to know I think she wants to hear it
• 1:31:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: That is what he said.
• 1:31:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think she called him about I think good.
• 1:31:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hope I'll find it.
• 1:31:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: She should have gone.
• 1:31:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: She went on a podcast.
• 1:31:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: She should have gone on a podcast.
• 1:31:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: She should have gone on a podcast.
• 1:31:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: She should have gone on a podcast.
• 1:31:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: She should have gone on a podcast.
• 1:31:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: She should have gone on a podcast.
• 1:31:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: She should have gone on a podcast.
• 1:31:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: She should have gone on a podcast.
• 1:31:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: She should have gone on a podcast.
• 1:31:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: She should have gone on a podcast.
• 1:31:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: She should have gone on a podcast.
• 1:31:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: She should have gone on a podcast.
• 1:31:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was it.
• 1:31:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, have you seen what Rachel looks like?
• 1:31:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, have you seen what Rachel looks like?
• 1:31:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: What would she do with the gym?
• 1:31:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: What would she do there?
• 1:31:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's like, she'll just come watch me lift my weights.
• 1:31:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: He didn't say that, but I think that must be what it is because she's like, I wonder if there was more tale.
• 1:31:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, so he's on there because I just think that's absurd.
• 1:31:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I must, I must use the trunper and she's a Democrat because my friends are gay.
• 1:31:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: You must have known that before you were like, I think we should match up.
• 1:31:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like, and why put her through that why not give her just his opportunity to talk to anybody?
• 1:32:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, you and he claimed her exactly.
• 1:32:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've been so bad for her when he the next night was like, so we just like, shouldn't maybe do that.
• 1:32:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And she was like, what?
• 1:32:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, she was like, I can't believe you're doing this again.
• 1:32:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then how he talked on next podcast.
• 1:32:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: He said, I just thought a reaction was like, two dramatic based on like art.
• 1:32:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I was like, you're crying.
• 1:32:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, why are you crying?
• 1:32:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like why are you having a big reaction to do this again?
• 1:32:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: She asked you to do this, and like you're completely discounting what you did to her and how real that was for her and how much that hurt her.
• 1:32:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's reacting.
• 1:32:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to try swimming because of you.
• 1:32:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm dying to know the status of their relationship.
• 1:32:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Me too.
• 1:32:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, so Clayton.
• 1:32:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, raise a stop disrespecting a Maya.
• 1:32:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Stop it.
• 1:32:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Stop it at all.
• 1:32:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And America doesn't like it.
• 1:32:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you obviously want to be America's favorite song.
• 1:32:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's not.
• 1:32:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: So just like get forward.
• 1:32:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was really expecting him to come out of the villa and be like, oh my god, I have to like immediately.
• 1:32:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I have to issue a public apology.
• 1:33:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: But hey, maybe maybe he's realer because he did it.
• 1:33:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know.
• 1:33:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe that's true.
• 1:33:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: And my it doesn't need that.
• 1:33:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, she doesn't.
• 1:33:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then last is everybody except Rachel and the big brother house, basically.
• 1:33:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody's talking about Rachel's team and big brother house.
• 1:33:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because I know even the people who are because I don't trust you guys are talking being like her daughters must be so disappointed in her.
• 1:33:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how our husband can watch this.
• 1:33:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, let me tell you, with his arms up screaming.
• 1:33:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Go Rachel.
• 1:33:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's my wife.
• 1:33:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: I better watch you better watch what you say about starting a blog about how Rachel has to wax or neck.
• 1:33:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: You should see what people are saying.
• 1:33:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: You.
• 1:33:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, she is.
• 1:33:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, such a rude awakening.
• 1:33:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I literally was thinking when I saw that tweet that like that was captured from feet.
• 1:33:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was like,
• 1:33:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: The fact that she doesn't know what people are saying about her and not something that just came out of her mouth, the irony.
• 1:33:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you can't write TV this good.
• 1:33:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's amazing.
• 1:33:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, she's so disgusting and she's going to say all this.
• 1:33:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's fucking crazy.
• 1:33:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Kelly, Kelly after she says release terrible things about Rachel from day one.
• 1:34:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: She's been saying, they've all been so mean about Rachel.
• 1:34:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then Rachel's like, Rachel has won.
• 1:34:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Rachel has won glass of alcohol and immediately is like season eleven Rachel again.
• 1:34:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's so good and they're all in the hammock and Kelly like goes to give her a good night.
• 1:34:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 1:34:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't need a hug.
• 1:34:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: She wasn't even like me.
• 1:34:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: She was like, I don't know.
• 1:34:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kelly is just to why she's absurd.
• 1:34:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's that would happen to me.
• 1:34:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that's like exactly what fucking happened to me because I bet I'm good because I don't ask me the reason was like, how do you think Caroline would do on the season and I was like better than I had anticipated when we saw the castle so now.
• 1:34:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: However, Caroline nailed it.
• 1:34:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: She couldn't have been on that.
• 1:34:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's why she was an ass because they knew very clearly it was coming.
• 1:34:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, we could not be on the same season.
• 1:34:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but like Kelly don't go up to the HOH and cry about her Rachel such a bully and all this is so mean to her.
• 1:34:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Dude.
• 1:34:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: somebody posted a photo of Kelly crying and whoever's arms and said, I don't know.
• 1:34:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and so we haven't had bullying this bad since Taylor hail season.
• 1:35:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, I know you're not talking about Kelly being bullied.
• 1:35:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: You might have my Rachel and I might have everybody's bullying Rachel because then yeah.
• 1:35:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: because you're not comparing Kelly's what Kelly's going through because Rachel doesn't hug her.
• 1:35:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Kelly's around here casting fucking spells on people.
• 1:35:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's talking about how she's like doing witchcraft.
• 1:35:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's walking around being like, I'm instigating shit.
• 1:35:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's telling everybody, she's like, second someone says something to her.
• 1:35:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody knows it.
• 1:35:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then they're like, Kelly, did you just tell everybody that?
• 1:35:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, yeah, I'm instigating Rear.
• 1:35:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm playing the game.
• 1:35:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm crazy, Kelly.
• 1:35:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's all wrong.
• 1:35:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kelly, also you
• 1:35:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: group you are being bullied in the house, but it wasn't very true.
• 1:35:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and you don't even know how to bully your experiencing.
• 1:35:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's all behind your back, bitch, you're fine.
• 1:35:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Grow up.
• 1:35:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can cry about it when you get out of the house, but for now, like, one thing that I do want to say is like, Katherine, this is, this is sticky, because Katherine said that I don't know when her mother passed away, but her mother has passed away.
• 1:35:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And she said that Riley was the only person in the house that was there for her about this and that Rachel knew that and Rachel kicked him out of the house.
• 1:36:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: So now Catherine has nobody and that she's like it's disgusting like what would Rachel's daughters think of that like that she would do that to me.
• 1:36:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: She would take away the one person that was here for me because my mother passed and she knew that like
• 1:36:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
• 1:36:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, dude, that is, oh, I'm sorry.
• 1:36:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Am I being a little bit much?
• 1:36:24
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• 1:36:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
• 1:36:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: You said.
• 1:36:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and what do you think Vince thinks about his girlfriend?
• 1:36:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wait.
• 1:36:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's got his baby.
• 1:36:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's motorboding Morgan and the HOH room.
• 1:36:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is a crazy crazy.
• 1:37:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is I can't believe we're going to see a cheating a cheat man's.
• 1:37:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's only a matter of time.
• 1:37:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I like I I part of me once you go back and watch older episodes, but the other part of me is like, but if I don't I don't want to watch the way the casuals watched it.
• 1:37:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's not it's almost not worth it to me, but like people are saying if this was old big brother, they would have a camera at the girls house and might be interviewing her.
• 1:37:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: bring it out.
• 1:37:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 1:37:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: So why?
• 1:37:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Julie.
• 1:37:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I know it's what I'm back.
• 1:37:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they're all the reasons isn't loving one another.
• 1:37:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Vince is breaking your your one rule.
• 1:37:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: So can we get out there?
• 1:37:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can we get some boots on the ground?
• 1:37:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: People in the scene.
• 1:37:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
• 1:37:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so that's you.
• 1:37:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is there anyone else in your rotation?
• 1:37:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Who's that?
• 1:37:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was right.
• 1:37:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 1:37:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Cool.
• 1:37:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, guys.
• 1:37:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that is that.
• 1:37:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to remind you on Thursday, we're going to have our recap of season seven episodes, sixteen pretty little liars.
• 1:37:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Next week, we'll have our recap of episode seventeen.
• 1:37:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then after that, we are switching to every other week.
• 1:37:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: We'll be a recap at a punch bowl until we get to the finale.
• 1:37:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you want more info on that.
• 1:38:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Other things on Monday.
• 1:38:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's Labor Day.
• 1:38:04
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• 1:38:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: We are releasing a special episode to make sure you tune in on Monday.
• 1:38:10
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• 1:38:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be releasing some Halloween merch.
• 1:38:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: We love to see you all in it.
• 1:38:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's very fun.
• 1:38:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I am posting my ghost tour schedule on the day that this is listed and it is updated.
• 1:38:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's different than what I can kill a lot of time for this right now.
• 1:38:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Don't show me it's right now.
• 1:38:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you became showing me fucking pictures and tweets, I am talking.
• 1:38:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, uh, I lost my journey to the butt.
• 1:38:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna post it.
• 1:38:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I would love to see you guys at the ghost stores.
• 1:38:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's different than what I'd talk about on the Patreon.
• 1:38:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if you listen to that, those dates just disregard them.
• 1:38:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have a new thing.
• 1:38:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, we did a punchball on with the liars.
• 1:38:38
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• 1:38:41
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• 1:38:42
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• 1:38:44
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• 1:38:46
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• 1:38:46
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• 1:38:47
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• 1:38:50
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• 1:38:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't have a ball.
• 1:38:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, Aristotle.