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- 0:02Vanessa Vakharia: Crying over math has become this shared cultural experience in North America.
- 0:07Vanessa Vakharia: Can we think about that?
- 0:08Vanessa Vakharia: A, a shared cultural experience of crying over our math homework as children?
- 0:12Vanessa Vakharia: Why have we normalized that?
- 0:14Vanessa Vakharia: This reel has gone viral, this trend has gone viral not because it's, like, an especially clever joke, but because millions of people immediately recognize themselves in it, If the shirt said,"I'm too handsome to do math," it wouldn't be funny.
- 0:26Vanessa Vakharia: People would be like,"What?" Because there's no cultural belief that like men or attractive men aren't also intelligent, but there is for women, and that is just messed up.
- 0:40Vanessa Vakharia: Hello, and welcome to this week's episode of Math Therapy, which I'm recording from a beautiful motel room in beautiful Bar Harbor, Maine.
- 0:48Vanessa Vakharia: Now, I've been on the road for this past week, which means I've been on Instagram a lot.
- 0:52Vanessa Vakharia: Every plane ride, every Uber ride, every whatever ride, there I am on my phone.
- 0:57Vanessa Vakharia: And that means that I have noticed that something very strange is going on because I have received multiple DMs about multiple math trends, none of which are very good.
- 1:11Vanessa Vakharia: You know, in 2010, I wrote a master's thesis called Imagining a World Where Paris Hilton Loves Math, and in that thesis, I integrated an interdisciplinary approach involving feminist theory, marketing theory, and mathematics education in order to uncover, discover, you know, interrogate, explore, research, figure out why and how media and pop culture actually make it impossible for women to retain their identities while also identifying as being good at math.
- 1:42Vanessa Vakharia: I mean, you guys know that I've said this a million times before, and if you're new to the podcast, I'm gonna ask you right now, when's the last time you saw a movie or TV show where the cheerleader character was good at math?
- 1:54Vanessa Vakharia: I say that because you're probably going to say,"Well, never," because it has never happened.
- 2:01Vanessa Vakharia: Now, I will say there is a character in Mindy Kaling's Sex Lives of College Girls, Leighton, and she is a cheerleader who's good at math, but part of her whole, like, character arc is that she hides that because she wants to be cool, so, like, I don't even count that.
- 2:14Vanessa Vakharia: Here's the real truth, is forever and ever and ever, we've been sold this lie that women either need to be a certain way, or they can't actually be good at math or belong to the world of mathematics.
- 2:25Vanessa Vakharia: And that certain way, by the way, usually has to do with femininity.
- 2:30Vanessa Vakharia: They need to not be what we consider traditionally feminine in order to be good at math.
- 2:34Vanessa Vakharia: They can't wear makeup.
- 2:36Vanessa Vakharia: They can't, like, dress nicely.
- 2:38Vanessa Vakharia: They can't care about the way they look.
- 2:40Vanessa Vakharia: They can't have social skills.
- 2:41Vanessa Vakharia: They can't have crushes.
- 2:42Vanessa Vakharia: They can't be in love.
- 2:43Vanessa Vakharia: Like, they can, but if they do, then they're gonna be given the role in the movie or TV show that's, like, the pretty, popular girl, not the nerdy girl who's good at math that needs a makeover to get the guy.
- 2:54Vanessa Vakharia: Now, you might be thinking,"Vanessa, your master's thesis was in 2010.
- 2:58Vanessa Vakharia: Everything's changed since then," and I would love to agree with you.
- 3:01Vanessa Vakharia: I really would.
- 3:02Vanessa Vakharia: However, here we are a decade and a half later, and I'm about to share three viral math trends from the last week that paint a very different picture, and the picture they paint is,"Oh, wow, it's like it's 2010 again." Now, when these trends popped across my feed, my first instinct was,"Okay, oh my God, can everyone please stop doing this?
- 3:25Vanessa Vakharia: Can everyone please stop sharing this?
- 3:27Vanessa Vakharia: Can these trends please stop?
- 3:28Vanessa Vakharia: Like, what are we doing?" I was mad at the creators.
- 3:31Vanessa Vakharia: I was mad at the people who were, like, emulating the trends.
- 3:34Vanessa Vakharia: I was like,"Oh my God, you guys are just reinforcing all the stereotypes." But then I started reading the comments, and I was like,"You know what?
- 3:41Vanessa Vakharia: This is a, like, don't hate the player, hate the game situation," because it's not the individuals who are sharing the content or who are, like, in the comments being like,"Oh my God, I can relate," or the ones who are copying the trends and making them their own.
- 3:54Vanessa Vakharia: It's not entirely their fault, because the reason they are latching onto these trends is because the trends are making them feel seen, and I think that's the bigger problem, is that we have this collective malaise around mathematics and like these trends are just a byproduct of that.
- 4:10Vanessa Vakharia: And like we have to stop ignoring it.
- 4:13Vanessa Vakharia: We have to stop ignoring it, and we have to figure out what to do here So today, while I'm here to criticize these trends, because honestly I really am, I also wanna unpack why they resonate so deeply, what they're telling us about our relationship with math, and why I actually think they're pointing us towards a much bigger conversation about math trauma.
- 4:32Vanessa Vakharia: And I do want to point out these trends all involve women.
- 4:37Vanessa Vakharia: They all involve women.
- 4:39Vanessa Vakharia: So I just have to say, I want you to look at this through this lens of the fact that these three things I'm about to talk about are specifically targeting women.
- 4:49Vanessa Vakharia: Ask yourself what kind of message that's sending, what purpose that serves, and how we're gonna go about fixing this whole situation that we found ourselves in, where yet again, in 2026, women are still being told that they can't be themselves and be good at math.
- 5:09Vanessa Vakharia: Now, before I get into the three trends, if you're listening to this right now and you're like,"Oh my God, this sounds like it's gonna get really juicy," it is.
- 5:15Vanessa Vakharia: If you're also listening to this right now being like,"I've been seeing this stuff too, and I've been telling my friends to stop sharing it," or,"I've been seeing this stuff too, and, like, I don't know what to do about it," the first thing you can do is actually share this episode.
- 5:29Vanessa Vakharia: Share this episode right now, because the sooner we stop just blindly kind of looking at these trends and scrolling by them, and instead stopping, seeing them for what they are, and taking action, the sooner our, like, stratosphere, our feeds, our, like, world, our- the noise around us, the sooner that will get cleaned up.
- 5:48Vanessa Vakharia: Because the truth is, when we have stereotypes floating around and we are constantly seeing stuff on our screens that reinforces those stereotypes, those stereotypes get normalized.
- 5:57Vanessa Vakharia: So the first thing you can do is send this episode to somebody else right now so that they're aware of them too, so that they too can take the actions that I'm gonna share at the end of this episode.
- 6:07Vanessa Vakharia: All right.
- 6:08Vanessa Vakharia: Let's get into it Okay, viral trend number one.
- 6:12Vanessa Vakharia: I have been sent this by so many people in so many different forums.
- 6:17Vanessa Vakharia: At first...
- 6:17Vanessa Vakharia: Okay, so the first way this popped across my feed is it was a video of Gracie Bowers, who is, like, an amazing rock star, and what the text said over her reel was,"You're so creative," in quotation marks, and then the next set of quotation marks said,"Thanks.
- 6:33Vanessa Vakharia: I used to cry during math homework." And then there's, like, a video of her, like, rocking out on stage.
- 6:39Vanessa Vakharia: I saw this and I was like,"Oh my God, poor Gracie.
- 6:42Vanessa Vakharia: I should get her on the podcast." I didn't realize it was a trend.
- 6:44Vanessa Vakharia: I thought she was just making this video.
- 6:47Vanessa Vakharia: But then I started getting it sent to me by more and more people.
- 6:50Vanessa Vakharia: The next one was the exact same thing,"You're so creative.""Thanks.
- 6:53Vanessa Vakharia: I used to cry during math homework," and this was a person, like, painting in the background.
- 6:57Vanessa Vakharia: Another one,"You're so creative.""Thanks.
- 6:59Vanessa Vakharia: I used to cry during math homework." This one was somebody, like, painting a room and, like, doing a whole floor plan and designing a house.
- 7:04Vanessa Vakharia: And I was like,"Oh my God, this is a trend.
- 7:08Vanessa Vakharia: It's a trend." And why do I know that?
- 7:10Vanessa Vakharia: Because on the third one I watched, there was a little button I could press that said,"Use this template." And I was like,"Oh my God, this is a template someone has made." So, like, now, uh, people can just go in and fill in their clips in the backdrop, and the text will stay the same.
- 7:24Vanessa Vakharia: The text will keep saying,"You're so creative.""Thanks.
- 7:27Vanessa Vakharia: I used to cry during math homework." Oh my God.
- 7:30Vanessa Vakharia: Okay, so I have so many thoughts here.
- 7:33Vanessa Vakharia: The first is, how many times do we hear about people crying over math homework?
- 7:39Vanessa Vakharia: It's always crying.
- 7:40Vanessa Vakharia: We're always crying over our math homework.
- 7:42Vanessa Vakharia: That actually really upsets me because I don't think that's something that's made up.
- 7:46Vanessa Vakharia: I think that's a real experience people share.
- 7:48Vanessa Vakharia: I think it was traumatizing for so many people, and it is traumatizing, and I think that trauma bond is really deep when you see someone else post about it.
- 7:56Vanessa Vakharia: But the deeper thing here is this idea of being creative versus doing math.
- 8:02Vanessa Vakharia: The message of this trend seems to be like,"Look at me now." Like, someone's getting a compliment for how creative they are, and they're, like, really proud, and they're like,"Thank you so much for validating me because you know what?
- 8:13Vanessa Vakharia: Back in the day, I used to cry over my math homework." I'm taking away two things, and I am actually curious.
- 8:18Vanessa Vakharia: Like, text the podcast if you have another interpretation.
- 8:21Vanessa Vakharia: My interpretation is that the message the reel is sending is, number one, you're either creative or mathematical, right?
- 8:29Vanessa Vakharia: Like, these people are being celebrated because they're so creative, and then they're like,"Thanks." Like,"I never needed math anyway." And actually, a lot of their captions will say,"Never needed math anyway." So it's kind of like this fuck you to being like,"Yeah, I used to cry over my math homework, but, like, look at me now." But, like, what bothers me is, like, so many of these people in the videos they've posted in these reels are doing things that involve math.
- 8:54Vanessa Vakharia: Like, es- the person who's, like, decorating the inside of her home and painting the walls, I'm like, I--"You're using math." I mean, Gracie Bower, like, a musician, you're using math.
- 9:02Vanessa Vakharia: Like, you know, you're using math not only in your chord progressions and your song structures, but, like, uh, you're a musician.
- 9:08Vanessa Vakharia: You're a, a, a business person.
- 9:10Vanessa Vakharia: Like, I know you're using math in that sense.
- 9:12Vanessa Vakharia: But I also get it.
- 9:13Vanessa Vakharia: I'm not mad at them.
- 9:14Vanessa Vakharia: I'm just like, ugh, I know what's happening here.
- 9:18Vanessa Vakharia: They're using math that wasn't traditionally evaluated in the math classroom, and therefore it never counted as real math.
- 9:25Vanessa Vakharia: You know, I find this, anytime someone says they suck at math, what they really mean is,"I was not good at or was not made to feel good at the math that I did in class, the math that was evaluated in class." And that's just really depressing because it shows, like, this whole vibe of we have so much work to do with how we're defining mathematics, because everyone posting this reel, you know, their assumption is they're do- using no math in their day-to-day life when they really are, and yet again, I, we're reinforcing that stereotype that you're creative or good at math.
- 9:56Vanessa Vakharia: And on the flip side, they're using so much math, but on the other hand, when we're doing math, we are being so creative.
- 10:02Vanessa Vakharia: Solving math problems is inherently creative in nature, right?
- 10:06Vanessa Vakharia: Like, I just Engineers are constantly just coming up with creative solutions.
- 10:10Vanessa Vakharia: They're like,"We could try this.
- 10:11Vanessa Vakharia: We could try that." When you're solving a problem that you don't know how to solve, that's when creativity flourishes.
- 10:17Vanessa Vakharia: In fact, when we're solving problems that we know how to solve or that we are told to use a specific formula for or to just copy steps, you're right.
- 10:25Vanessa Vakharia: There is no creativity in that.
- 10:26Vanessa Vakharia: And again, this is not the fault of the people posting the reel.
- 10:29Vanessa Vakharia: That's probably how they were taught math, in a very uncreative way.
- 10:32Vanessa Vakharia: But math at its core is creative.
- 10:35Vanessa Vakharia: You're supposed to not know how to solve the problem, and then use creativity to figure it the fuck out.
- 10:40Vanessa Vakharia: Like, that's the whole thing.
- 10:42Vanessa Vakharia: So I feel like that's message number one from this reel is you're either creative or you're good at math.
- 10:47Vanessa Vakharia: The other message I'm getting from this reel is that giant, like,"F you." You know?
- 10:52Vanessa Vakharia: It's that, like,"Thank you.
- 10:53Vanessa Vakharia: I am really creative.
- 10:54Vanessa Vakharia: I am good at something.
- 10:56Vanessa Vakharia: I used to cry over my math homework because I was made to feel like I was dumb." That's really the vibe I'm getting, especially from so many of these captions.
- 11:03Vanessa Vakharia: And I think that again points to this entire issue we have where, like, we have positioned it so that math is the thing that makes you smart, so that when kids don't know math, they feel stupid, they feel unintelligent, they feel less worthy.
- 11:15Vanessa Vakharia: They struggle through school feeling like they have no sense of self.
- 11:19Vanessa Vakharia: And then, you know, in later years they find this thing they're passionate about, and they can look back and say,"See, I was worth something.
- 11:26Vanessa Vakharia: Math was not the thing that defined me." And like fucking of course it's not the thing that defines you.
- 11:31Vanessa Vakharia: But why do so many people feel like it is?
- 11:33Vanessa Vakharia: That's our fault.
- 11:34Vanessa Vakharia: I mean, not us, like the people, like, making the podcast, AKA me, or listening to the podcast, you.
- 11:40Vanessa Vakharia: But it...
- 11:40Vanessa Vakharia: as a collective, that is our fault.
- 11:42Vanessa Vakharia: What are we doing that is making people identify so to a core level with the fact that they were bad at math?
- 11:50Vanessa Vakharia: What is happening here?
- 11:51Vanessa Vakharia: And you know what, guys?
- 11:52Vanessa Vakharia: Honestly, the comments just reaffirm how big of a feeling this is.
- 11:57Vanessa Vakharia: I'm just gonna read some of them to you out now.
- 11:59Vanessa Vakharia: remember, this is a reel that's like,"You're so creative.""Thanks.
- 12:02Vanessa Vakharia: I used to cry over my math homework." People are simply responding to the...
- 12:06Vanessa Vakharia: Like, people have latched onto the,"I used to cry over my math homework," and here are some of the comments:"Same, girl.""So it wasn't just me.""Me too.""Literally.""You're not alone.""Relatable AF.""I get it, girl," broken heart emoji.
- 12:22Vanessa Vakharia: "OMG 100% relate.
- 12:23Vanessa Vakharia: I used to cry because I couldn't solve my maths homework." We get this." Then someone commented,"You're either pretty or you can do math," nail emoji.
- 12:32Vanessa Vakharia: Oh my fucking God.
- 12:34Vanessa Vakharia: "Same girl, same girl.""Literally.""Me too.""I used to cry all the time.""This is so relatable." A lot of crying emojis.
- 12:40Vanessa Vakharia: Crying emoji, cry- Okay.
- 12:42Vanessa Vakharia: You get the picture.
- 12:43Vanessa Vakharia: The point is that there...
- 12:44Vanessa Vakharia: A- and you know what I have to say?
- 12:46Vanessa Vakharia: Any time I see a reel or anything on Instagram about someone being like,"I'm crying over my math homework," or,"I used to cry," it's hundreds, thousands of comments, guys, thousands of comments of people being like,"Me too." And then these s- horrible stories that I'm just like,"Oh my God, math trauma, math trauma, math trauma." Like people being like,"My dad used to yell at me." Like,"I used to be up with my parents till 3:00 AM.""My teacher told me I was stu-" Like it's like this endless thing.
- 13:08Vanessa Vakharia: So, like, crying over math has become this shared cultural experience in North America.
- 13:14Vanessa Vakharia: Can we think about that?
- 13:15Vanessa Vakharia: A, a shared cultural experience of crying over our math homework as children?
- 13:20Vanessa Vakharia: And this is the thing, this reel has gone viral, this trend has gone viral not because it's, like, an especially clever joke, but because millions of people immediately recognize themselves in it, and I want us to think about how strange that is.
- 13:31Vanessa Vakharia: Why have we normalized that?
- 13:33Vanessa Vakharia: If someone joked that, like, science homework left them in tears for years or, like, their history homework, like, was this endless source of, like, pain and grief every single day for years, we'd be like,"What?
- 13:43Vanessa Vakharia: Oh, interesting." Like,"Tell me more about that." We'd probably ask questions about it.
- 13:48Vanessa Vakharia: But with math, we're like,"Yep, me too." That's it, the end.
- 13:51Vanessa Vakharia: We don't even ask why.
- 13:52Vanessa Vakharia: It's like,"Yeah, of course." The thing is, this trend tells me that we've normalized emotional pain around math.
- 13:57Vanessa Vakharia: All these trends tell me that, actually.
- 13:59Vanessa Vakharia: We've stopped seeing those experiences as something worth unpacking, and it's just something to be like,"Yep, me too.
- 14:04Vanessa Vakharia: I agree.
- 14:05Vanessa Vakharia: It's normal." It's normal, and the solution is you say fuck it to math, and you move on and do something non-mathematical with the rest of your life, and then look back and try to heal from years and years of not feeling good enough from math.
- 14:20Vanessa Vakharia: Like, what?
- 14:22Vanessa Vakharia: What?
- 14:24Vanessa Vakharia: Like, why isn't the conversation,"Why did so many of us have this experience?
- 14:29Vanessa Vakharia: Why is this a rite of passage growing up?" Like, it's incredibly revealing, and it tells us we've become more comfortable bonding over math pain than questioning why so many people experienced it in the first place Now, I made a reel to, like, try to combat this, but I don't think I did a great job explain- like, you'd have to read the caption, but I made a reel using this, and I actually put my own videos of me doing math.
- 14:51Vanessa Vakharia: So the reel says, like,"You're so creative.""Thanks.
- 14:54Vanessa Vakharia: I used to cry doing math homework," and it's me doing math in the background, and in the caption I tried to unpack it.
- 14:58Vanessa Vakharia: So you can check that out on Instagram if you wanna, like, share that, uh, if you wanna read what I said in the caption, if you want to, like, send that to somebody who feels like they're creative at the exclusion of math or vice versa.
- 15:10Vanessa Vakharia: So I've got that up there for you.
- 15:12Vanessa Vakharia: Let's move on to the next trend.
- 15:15Vanessa Vakharia: Okay, the second trend that has gone viral right now is basically...
- 15:18Vanessa Vakharia: So the way the format works is you post a video of you, like, driving, chilling, doing whatever, and then the text over top says,"Please know that if we are ever in a situation where we are both doing a math problem in our heads trying to figure something out, I am pretending and it's all on you." Okay.
- 15:36Vanessa Vakharia: Again, the comments are the same thing.
- 15:38Vanessa Vakharia: The comments are people being like,"Yep, it's definitely on you," or like,"That would never be me doing the math problem," or,"Math in my head?
- 15:45Vanessa Vakharia: LOL," or,"Math?
- 15:47Vanessa Vakharia: Who knows her?" Like, those are all the comments.
- 15:50Vanessa Vakharia: And on the surface, like, it's like a joke about mental math.
- 15:53Vanessa Vakharia: Like, okay, fine, we're not doing math in our heads, but it's really not about that.
- 15:57Vanessa Vakharia: It's really not about that.
- 15:59Vanessa Vakharia: This gives me the impression, like, when I see this, I'm like, okay, what is the takeaway here?
- 16:03Vanessa Vakharia: The takeaway to me is, again, this vibe of yeah, like, if we're ever in a situation where we're both supposed to be doing a math problem, just know that I'm not doing it.
- 16:14Vanessa Vakharia: There's no way I'm doing mental math, period.
- 16:16Vanessa Vakharia: It's about confidence.
- 16:17Vanessa Vakharia: It's about identity.
- 16:18Vanessa Vakharia: It's about what we've learned to believe about ourselves, right?
- 16:20Vanessa Vakharia: Like, people aren't saying,"I'm out of practice," or like,"Let me just get a piece of paper." Like, that wouldn't be very clickbait, but like, do you know what I mean?
- 16:27Vanessa Vakharia: They're saying,"I've accepted that somebody else should do this.
- 16:31Vanessa Vakharia: I've accepted that the person doing the math should not be me." It's the classic, like, it's dinner time and the bill comes, and we all pass the bill to someone else to calculate the tip.
- 16:41Vanessa Vakharia: Like, we're just like,"Oh, no, it shouldn't be me." It's a bit...
- 16:43Vanessa Vakharia: it's giving learned helplessness.
- 16:45Vanessa Vakharia: Like, I know that seems, like, really dramatic, but it's kind of giving learned helplessness, to be honest.
- 16:49Vanessa Vakharia: Somewhere along the way, millions of people have learned that pretending was safer than trying, and like, that's the other thing about this reel, right?
- 16:55Vanessa Vakharia: They're basically sa- saying,"If we're both stuck in a situation where we're both, like, supposed to be solving a math problem, know that I'm sitting there pretending I'm solving it.
- 17:03Vanessa Vakharia: But that's actually not what's happening, and I'm actually waiting for you to give me the answer." And I think this just shows us, again, another collective feeling that, like, being wrong in math wasn't just uncomfortable for us, and it's not just uncomfortable.
- 17:15Vanessa Vakharia: It's embarrassing.
- 17:16Vanessa Vakharia: It's exposing.
- 17:16Vanessa Vakharia: It's, like, proof that we're not smart.
- 17:18Vanessa Vakharia: So, like, the best strategy is pretend you know what's going on and let someone else answer.
- 17:24Vanessa Vakharia: And also, I, with these reels, I think it's like, make yourself the joke first before someone else can do it, right?
- 17:31Vanessa Vakharia: Like, there's so much shame attached to it.
- 17:33Vanessa Vakharia: This is gonna seem completely unrelated, but it's actually not, and I'm gonna tell you guys a story.
- 17:38Vanessa Vakharia: I just finished visiting Acadia National Park.
- 17:40Vanessa Vakharia: Now, I've never been to a national park.
- 17:42Vanessa Vakharia: All right?
- 17:42Vanessa Vakharia: Like, I don't- I'm not, like, a hiker.
- 17:44Vanessa Vakharia: I'm not, like, a...
- 17:45Vanessa Vakharia: I, I mean, I like nature, but, like, you know, I've got my limits.
- 17:48Vanessa Vakharia: But, you know, everyone talks, talks about this national park, and there was supposed to be this beach there.
- 17:52Vanessa Vakharia: And you guys know I'm overcoming my fear of driving in the US and driving rental cars, and, like, I have got my rental car.
- 17:59Vanessa Vakharia: I feel really good in it, and I was like, you know what?
- 18:01Vanessa Vakharia: Like, it's a beautiful day.
- 18:02Vanessa Vakharia: I wanna go on this adventure.
- 18:03Vanessa Vakharia: I wanna, like, go see the ocean.
- 18:04Vanessa Vakharia: So I go to this national park.
- 18:06Vanessa Vakharia: This place was insane.
- 18:08Vanessa Vakharia: It was insa- oh my God, guys.
- 18:10Vanessa Vakharia: I swear, I just looked up and I swear there is a ma- oh my God.
- 18:15Vanessa Vakharia: Oh my God.
- 18:15Vanessa Vakharia: Okay, wait till you hear what I'm about to tell you, and you're gonna hear how TANC that is.
- 18:21Vanessa Vakharia: And TANC, by the way, means There Are No Coincidences.
- 18:24Vanessa Vakharia: I have a tattoo to my right bicep.
- 18:25Vanessa Vakharia: Okay, this is crazy.
- 18:26Vanessa Vakharia: This is crazy.
- 18:27Vanessa Vakharia: I wasn't even gonna tell this story, but now I have to.
- 18:29Vanessa Vakharia: I just looked up, and there is a map right in front of me.
- 18:34Vanessa Vakharia: Now, why is that TANC?
- 18:36Vanessa Vakharia: Well, because I go into the national park.
- 18:38Vanessa Vakharia: I thought this park, like, I don't know.
- 18:40Vanessa Vakharia: I thought it was gonna be, like, 10 minutes to drive around the whole thing.
- 18:43Vanessa Vakharia: This, this is a giant park.
- 18:45Vanessa Vakharia: I finally find the visitor center, and I'm like...
- 18:47Vanessa Vakharia: 'Cause I'm like,"How am I gonna know where to find Sand Beach?" That's apparently where the ocean is.
- 18:51Vanessa Vakharia: And I'm like,"Oh, a sign for a visitor center.
- 18:53Vanessa Vakharia: That makes sense.
- 18:53Vanessa Vakharia: I'll go to the visitor center and I'll, like, ask them what's up." There are hundreds of people here, okay?
- 18:58Vanessa Vakharia: Milling about with their hiking gear and their boots and their, like, walking sticks.
- 19:01Vanessa Vakharia: I'm, like, cruising in.
- 19:03Vanessa Vakharia: I've got a, a shoulder tote bag, which, by the way, I've now learned you should not bring hiking.
- 19:08Vanessa Vakharia: That is not a good idea.
- 19:09Vanessa Vakharia: Okay, fine.
- 19:10Vanessa Vakharia: Who cares?
- 19:10Vanessa Vakharia: I go to the visitor center.
- 19:11Vanessa Vakharia: I get in line to buy the park pass, and I'm like,"Hey, Can you recommend, like, what..." There's, like, a bunch of different hikes, right?
- 19:17Vanessa Vakharia: There's, like, tons of hi- I don't know how many, but, like, 50 different hikes and, like, trails.
- 19:21Vanessa Vakharia: I don't know.
- 19:21Vanessa Vakharia: Not 50, but, like, a lot.
- 19:23Vanessa Vakharia: I'm like,"Could you recommend, like, a hike that would be, like, nice and easy and, like, around an ocean?" And the guy's like,"Yeah, go on the Ocean Walk Trail." I'm like,"Great.
- 19:30Vanessa Vakharia: Could you show me where that is?" He whips open a giant map.
- 19:35Vanessa Vakharia: Like, a giant map like you used to use in, like, the'90s.
- 19:38Vanessa Vakharia: Like, a paper fucking map.
- 19:40Vanessa Vakharia: Like, this thing is, like, bigger than a newspaper.
- 19:43Vanessa Vakharia: And he's like,"All right, so you're standing right here." And he has his pen, right?
- 19:45Vanessa Vakharia: He's like,"You're standing right here." Like, circles the thing.
- 19:47Vanessa Vakharia: And he's like,"You're just gonna pop over there, and then you're gonna follow Route 3 to this, and then you're gonna turn left.
- 19:51Vanessa Vakharia: Then there's this hairpin turn." And he's circling this shit all over the map, and I'm like,"Dude, I don't...
- 19:57Vanessa Vakharia: hold your...
- 19:58Vanessa Vakharia: Like, slow your roll." Now, it's not that I can't read a map.
- 20:02Vanessa Vakharia: Well, it's kind of that I can't read a map, but it's because I've never put much effort into reading a map.
- 20:08Vanessa Vakharia: I rely entirely on my GPS.
- 20:10Vanessa Vakharia: I find it very hard to, like, orient myself around a map.
- 20:13Vanessa Vakharia: Like, I'm one of those people that, like, you know, when you have your GPS on, and then you just start walking straight to see, like, whether the little pin, like, is in front of you or behind you, and then you course-correct that way instead of, like, orienting yourself in the first place and knowing which way to go.
- 20:27Vanessa Vakharia: That's me.
- 20:28Vanessa Vakharia: Again, growth mindset.
- 20:30Vanessa Vakharia: I believe in it.
- 20:30Vanessa Vakharia: I have not worked on this skill.
- 20:32Vanessa Vakharia: I'm sure I could get better on it.
- 20:33Vanessa Vakharia: At the moment, I am a zero at it.
- 20:35Vanessa Vakharia: Okay?
- 20:35Vanessa Vakharia: I'm like,"Dude," I'm like,"I do not know what you're saying." So finally I look at him and I'm like,"Listen, sir." I'm like,"I know this is, like, a concerning thing for me to be telling you in this national park, but, like, I'm not very comfortable reading maps.
- 20:47Vanessa Vakharia: Like, I, I have no idea what you just said." And him and his friends look at each other and they're like,"Does someone else in your party...?" And I'm like,"Oh, no, it's just me." And he's like,"No problem." He literally goes,"No problem." He holds up the map, turns it around and goes,"This is where you're standing right now.
- 21:02Vanessa Vakharia: Let's try to look at it from your perspective.
- 21:05Vanessa Vakharia: You're gonna go down here." And I was like,"Okay, this is so much easier." And I was like,"Okay, and, like, if I can't find it..." He was like,"Honestly, if you can't find it, you can always throw on your GPS.
- 21:15Vanessa Vakharia: Like, this is what you would put in your GPS." Now, by the way, guys, there was, like, no reception at this park, so I could not have used my GPS, but, like, he was so helpful.
- 21:23Vanessa Vakharia: He was like...
- 21:24Vanessa Vakharia: He slowed down immediately.
- 21:26Vanessa Vakharia: He was like,"Okay, like, how do you want me to explain this to you?" He was like,"You're gonna see signs." Like, he made me feel so much better about the whole thing.
- 21:32Vanessa Vakharia: Anyways, I left.
- 21:33Vanessa Vakharia: I ended up not, I didn't even pick up the map ever again, but I, like, followed the signs, and some of the stuff he had said stuck in my head.
- 21:40Vanessa Vakharia: So, like, when I got to that hairpin turn, I was like,"Oh, this must, must be, like, the hairpin turn." Anyways, I'm fine.
- 21:45Vanessa Vakharia: I'm alive.
- 21:45Vanessa Vakharia: Like, I went on the craziest hike.
- 21:47Vanessa Vakharia: Like, two children had to basically lead me back down because I- they were like, we were climbing on our hands and knees, and I'd be like,"Guys, how do we get down here?" And then they would just, like, hop over it like it was no big deal.
- 21:56Vanessa Vakharia: They were very nice.
- 21:57Vanessa Vakharia: Doesn't matter.
- 21:58Vanessa Vakharia: I'm safe.
- 21:58Vanessa Vakharia: I'm alive.
- 21:59Vanessa Vakharia: And my point of the story is...
- 22:01Vanessa Vakharia: I have learned in my life to just ask for help.
- 22:04Vanessa Vakharia: I have learned to never be scared of saying,"I don't know.
- 22:07Vanessa Vakharia: I don't understand.
- 22:08Vanessa Vakharia: Explain it to me again for a 10th time." And because of that, I've had the opportunity to learn so much.
- 22:14Vanessa Vakharia: I did the hike today.
- 22:15Vanessa Vakharia: I found the place.
- 22:17Vanessa Vakharia: I experienced being temporarily lost.
- 22:19Vanessa Vakharia: I regained my footing.
- 22:21Vanessa Vakharia: I, like, did the whole hike.
- 22:22Vanessa Vakharia: I did two trails.
- 22:23Vanessa Vakharia: I knew where I was.
- 22:24Vanessa Vakharia: Like I left with such a sense of accomplishment and being like,"Holy shit." Like, I really...
- 22:31Vanessa Vakharia: You know, when I was at that visitor center when that guy first whipped out the map, like, I was considering being like,"I think you should call it a day and go home." You know what I mean?
- 22:38Vanessa Vakharia: And I didn't, and because I expressed my need for help, the guy helped me, and because he helped me, I was able to do the thing, and because I did the thing, I now feel more confident.
- 22:46Vanessa Vakharia: Do you see what I mean?
- 22:48Vanessa Vakharia: But in math, and, like, back to this whole reel and what it tells us is, it's just so much easier to pretend you know what's happening, get through the moment, ditch the shame and embarrassment that could come with ad- admitting that you don't know, and get through the moment.
- 23:02Vanessa Vakharia: Like, survive the moment instead of actually making something of it.
- 23:06Vanessa Vakharia: But the problem is, you survive the moment.
- 23:08Vanessa Vakharia: You get through it.
- 23:08Vanessa Vakharia: We all got through math class.
- 23:10Vanessa Vakharia: But you leave, and even though you move on to other things and you don't think you're ever using math again, fine.
- 23:15Vanessa Vakharia: You always carry that wound with you and that belief that you couldn't do the thing.
- 23:20Vanessa Vakharia: Because you never asked for help, and therefore you never got the help you needed, and you were never able to see what you're truly capable of.
- 23:26Vanessa Vakharia: 'Cause I know everyone posting these reels is capable of doing math, right?
- 23:29Vanessa Vakharia: Like, I feel it hurts for me to be like,"Fuck," like, they're all carrying these wounds.
- 23:34Vanessa Vakharia: Like, they were made to feel like they couldn't do math.
- 23:36Vanessa Vakharia: And also, by the way, they were made to feel like they couldn't ask for help.
- 23:39Vanessa Vakharia: I believe that.
- 23:40Vanessa Vakharia: I think that it's really hard in so many classrooms, and this is part of the work we're all doing with Math Therapy.
- 23:44Vanessa Vakharia: How do we create a safe environment so a kid can say,"I know you explained this to me five times.
- 23:49Vanessa Vakharia: I still don't get it.
- 23:50Vanessa Vakharia: I still don't get it." Right?
- 23:51Vanessa Vakharia: Like, and that's on us.
- 23:53Vanessa Vakharia: That's on us.
- 23:54Vanessa Vakharia: We've gotta create environments where that's okay.
- 23:57Vanessa Vakharia: And, and many of us grew up in an environment where you weren't even allowed to ask a question, let alone say you didn't understand something for the fifth time.
- 24:04Vanessa Vakharia: So all that to say, I mean, this reel to me, this whole trend of being like, if we're ever both supposed to be working on a math problem and it looks like I'm doing math in my head, so it's on you, that's like a protective strategy, right?
- 24:14Vanessa Vakharia: We're like bonding with one another being like,"Me too.
- 24:17Vanessa Vakharia: Yep.
- 24:17Vanessa Vakharia: Ha ha.
- 24:18Vanessa Vakharia: LOL," like,"I can't do math, but don't worry," like,"I'll have you do it for me." And we're kind of just going into avoidance right there saying,"I will not be doing any math.
- 24:27Vanessa Vakharia: I will be asking someone else, and I'm okay with that.
- 24:29Vanessa Vakharia: I'm laughing about it so it doesn't hurt." But like it hurts to think that you just can't do something, especially when that thing is math, and math is this thing in school that was like used to make people feel big or small.
- 24:42Vanessa Vakharia: Again, if you got another interpretation of what this reel might mean, what this trend might be saying, text the podcast right now.
- 24:47Vanessa Vakharia: There's a link in your show notes.
- 24:49Vanessa Vakharia: Click that link and text me.
- 24:50Vanessa Vakharia: I wanna know what you think it means.
- 24:52Vanessa Vakharia: And finally, we are gonna get...
- 24:53Vanessa Vakharia: Oh my God, I'm nervous for this third one, to be honest okay, this one is not an Instagram trend, or at least that's not how it started.
- 25:01Vanessa Vakharia: But I, I...
- 25:02Vanessa Vakharia: You know what?
- 25:03Vanessa Vakharia: It's actually nice that I'm ending here, because I'm ending with something that happened that we together have rectified in a way.
- 25:12Vanessa Vakharia: And that is that the third viral trend-ish thing that happened is a Australian retailer called Myer came out with a shirt, and on that shirt it said,"I'm too pretty to do math." Now, you're probably thinking,"Vanessa, this sounds very familiar.
- 25:33Vanessa Vakharia: I'm having déjà vu." Yes, you are fucking having déjà vu.
- 25:36Vanessa Vakharia: Why?
- 25:37Vanessa Vakharia: Because the exact same shirt came out in 2011.
- 25:42Vanessa Vakharia: In fact, that was part of my master's thesis work, was interrogating all of the clothing that was out that was marketed...
- 25:49Vanessa Vakharia: By the way, by the way, I've not even mentioned this yet.
- 25:52Vanessa Vakharia: Notice that the past two reels that I've talked about, the past two viral trends, the only people I have seen using them and sharing them are women.
- 26:01Vanessa Vakharia: Just FYI.
- 26:02Vanessa Vakharia: Okay, and now this shirt is a shirt for women.
- 26:05Vanessa Vakharia: It is targeted to girls and women.
- 26:07Vanessa Vakharia: Now, in 2011, I did this entire deep dive into all of these shirts that came out.
- 26:13Vanessa Vakharia: One of them was,"I'm too pretty to do my math homework, so my brother does it for me." There was,"I'm too pretty to do math." There was an entire Forever 21 line with things like,"Allergic to algebra," and other, like, kind of, like, demeaning things only for women.
- 26:27Vanessa Vakharia: Only for women, okay?
- 26:28Vanessa Vakharia: All of these shirts are only for women.
- 26:30Vanessa Vakharia: I have not seen a"I'm too handsome to do math" shirt, by the way.
- 26:33Vanessa Vakharia: Now, in 2011, when that Forever 21 line came out, I actually posted a picture of the shirt that said,"Allergic to algebra." It was, like, this pink T-shirt, and all of my students were like,"Oh my God, that's so cute." And immediately I was like,"Guys, it is telling you girls that, like, you should be wearing a shirt that says allergic to algebra because you can't possibly be good at math." They instantly went so to town on this that within a week the shirt was pulled from Forever 21.
- 27:03Vanessa Vakharia: It was no longer for sale.
- 27:04Vanessa Vakharia: They emailed, they tweeted.
- 27:06Vanessa Vakharia: They, like, f- totally lost it.
- 27:07Vanessa Vakharia: The same thing happened l- years later with Benefit Cosmetics, by the way.
- 27:12Vanessa Vakharia: They had a whole c- ad campaign that was like, it's better to be...
- 27:16Vanessa Vakharia: it, it said something...
- 27:17Vanessa Vakharia: Oh, it w- it said, uh,"Skip class, not your concealer." And again, I posted about it.
- 27:22Vanessa Vakharia: We all went...
- 27:23Vanessa Vakharia: Like, honestly, you guys killed it, because we were all reposting, we were emailing, we were like...
- 27:28Vanessa Vakharia: And that entire ad campaign got pulled.
- 27:31Vanessa Vakharia: I cannot believe in 2020...
- 27:32Vanessa Vakharia: I, I would like to say I can't believe, but I can believe in 2026, 15 years later, someone has made that shirt again.
- 27:39Vanessa Vakharia: We've already been here.
- 27:41Vanessa Vakharia: We've already done it.
- 27:42Vanessa Vakharia: There it is, the shirt.
- 27:43Vanessa Vakharia: I'm too pretty to do math.
- 27:45Vanessa Vakharia: Wanna know the worst part?
- 27:46Vanessa Vakharia: Within a week on the website, there was only two sizes left, which meant that people were buying this shirt.
- 27:54Vanessa Vakharia: Oh my God.
- 27:55Vanessa Vakharia: Oh my God.
- 27:56Vanessa Vakharia: Oh my God.
- 27:56Vanessa Vakharia: Oh my God.
- 27:57Vanessa Vakharia: This sort of fascinates me because it's not just saying,"I'm not good at math," right?
- 28:00Vanessa Vakharia: Like, it's turning math ability into this identity about...
- 28:04Vanessa Vakharia: Like, the vibe is like,"This isn't something I do.
- 28:06Vanessa Vakharia: This isn't something I'll ever become.
- 28:08Vanessa Vakharia: This isn't j- who I am." But, like, the subtext here is...
- 28:14Vanessa Vakharia: Well, I don't even think it's subtext.
- 28:16Vanessa Vakharia: It's very obvious.
- 28:17Vanessa Vakharia: The message is that pretty people don't do math.
- 28:21Vanessa Vakharia: Sorry, let me, let me be specific.
- 28:23Vanessa Vakharia: Pretty girls, pretty women don't do math.
- 28:27Vanessa Vakharia: That stere- It just...
- 28:28Vanessa Vakharia: It's back to the cheerleader.
- 28:30Vanessa Vakharia: It's back to the fact that there's no cheerleader that's good at math.
- 28:33Vanessa Vakharia: It's back to the fact that when girls are portrayed as doing math in the movies or TV, they're normally unpopular.
- 28:39Vanessa Vakharia: They have, like, no sense of style.
- 28:41Vanessa Vakharia: They have no social skills.
- 28:42Vanessa Vakharia: They need the makeover to get the guy.
- 28:43Vanessa Vakharia: Like, I just don't understand how this is still happening.
- 28:46Vanessa Vakharia: Like, I just...
- 28:47Vanessa Vakharia: You know what?
- 28:47Vanessa Vakharia: So many people sent me this shirt, that, like, I was stunned.
- 28:52Vanessa Vakharia: I was like,"This can't be re- This can't be a real thing." Then I learned it was, like, one of the most popular retailers in Australia, and I was like,"What is going on?" Here's, here's the good news.
- 29:02Vanessa Vakharia: Actually, I won't tell you the good news.
- 29:03Vanessa Vakharia: I wanna dig a bit deeper into this first.
- 29:05Vanessa Vakharia: Like, imagine there was a shirt that said,"I'm too pretty to read," or,"I'm too pretty to write," or, like,"I'm too pretty to think." Would we be into that?
- 29:15Vanessa Vakharia: Would we be sharing that?
- 29:16Vanessa Vakharia: Would we be buying that?
- 29:18Vanessa Vakharia: I don't know.
- 29:18Vanessa Vakharia: Would we?
- 29:19Vanessa Vakharia: I, I mean, I really don't think so, but this,"I'm too pretty to do math," it's like this instant grab.
- 29:24Vanessa Vakharia: And honestly, you know what I will say?
- 29:28Vanessa Vakharia: I think it's because girls have been told for so long that they can't possibly be smart, and of course, math is, like, the ultimate thing that makes you smart, even though that's BS.
- 29:39Vanessa Vakharia: I'm just saying that's how we treat it, right?
- 29:41Vanessa Vakharia: Like, we call people who are good at math smart.
- 29:44Vanessa Vakharia: I think it's because they were told for so long, and still are to a degree, that, like, they can't possibly be smart.
- 29:50Vanessa Vakharia: They can't possibly be good at math.
- 29:51Vanessa Vakharia: They're always made to feel like, like, in math class, there's so much research that shows that boys are picked when their hands are raised more than girls.
- 30:00Vanessa Vakharia: There's s- there's so much out there that, like, if a girl expresses that she's good at math, somebody will test her and be like,"Oh, really?" And doubt her.
- 30:08Vanessa Vakharia: She has to prove herself.
- 30:09Vanessa Vakharia: I think that has happened for so long that girls are finally like,"Yeah, fuck you.
- 30:12Vanessa Vakharia: I'm too pretty to do math.
- 30:14Vanessa Vakharia: Done.
- 30:14Vanessa Vakharia: Great.
- 30:14Vanessa Vakharia: Bye." Right?
- 30:15Vanessa Vakharia: Like, it's, like, almost like...
- 30:17Vanessa Vakharia: a bait and switch of them being like,"No, I'm the one who decided.
- 30:21Vanessa Vakharia: I'm the one who decided, and fine, you think I can't do math?
- 30:24Vanessa Vakharia: At least I'm pretty," which is social capital.
- 30:27Vanessa Vakharia: Like, I, it really, really upsets me, and it really bothers me, especially because I have so many students, I have been tutoring girls for almost 20 years, and so many of them has, have expressed this sentiment that they're nervous.
- 30:41Vanessa Vakharia: They're too scared to go into a STEM program.
- 30:43Vanessa Vakharia: They're too scared to even say they're good at math or they like math.
- 30:46Vanessa Vakharia: They hide the fact that they're good at math, because of this whole thing.
- 30:50Vanessa Vakharia: They don't wanna be second-guessed.
- 30:52Vanessa Vakharia: They don't want someone to think they're weird.
- 30:53Vanessa Vakharia: They don't want someone to think they're a loser because, you know, you're either pretty or you're good at math.
- 30:57Vanessa Vakharia: Like, I think there are, there are two main themes wrapped up in here.
- 31:00Vanessa Vakharia: Theme number one is this idea that, like, being smart actually makes you less attractive, literally.
- 31:08Vanessa Vakharia: And theme number two, which is girls wanting to claim something, some form of power over all of the people who have told them they can't possibly be smart.
- 31:17Vanessa Vakharia: So being pretty is going to be that source of power.
- 31:20Vanessa Vakharia: An article came out in The Conversation last week to talk about all of this, and the article is actually titled"Too Pretty to Do Math?
- 31:27Vanessa Vakharia: Here's the Real Reason Girls Aren't Choosing to Study Maths".
- 31:30Vanessa Vakharia: Because by the way, as I write this, there is still a massive gender gap in post-secondary education when it comes to math-related fields.
- 31:38Vanessa Vakharia: And I really want to read this one section, okay?
- 31:42Vanessa Vakharia: "Studies suggest the biggest causes of girls opting out of maths are differences in how girls perceive their own mathematical ability and their lower interest in the subject.
- 31:52Vanessa Vakharia: In short, girls see themselves as less capable, even when they have the same actual math ability as their male classmates.
- 31:58Vanessa Vakharia: They are also less interested in math.
- 32:00Vanessa Vakharia: Children develop beliefs about who math is and isn't for from a very young age.
- 32:05Vanessa Vakharia: These beliefs are shaped by the messages they receive from," are you ready?
- 32:09Vanessa Vakharia: "Parents, teachers, peers, the media, and society.
- 32:15Vanessa Vakharia: When girls repeatedly encounter the idea that math is a masculine domain, this can influence their confidence, sense of belonging, and willingness to continue engaging with math.
- 32:24Vanessa Vakharia: So the fact that girls today are still hearing these messages that mathematics is not feminine is alarming." There.
- 32:29Vanessa Vakharia: There it is, right there I just keep coming back to the fact that this is so targeted to women, the message is being feminine and being mathematical don't naturally belong together.
- 32:40Vanessa Vakharia: And you know, when I talk about being feminine, I'm talking about the ways we have historically defined femininity.
- 32:45Vanessa Vakharia: So like it's neither here nor there.
- 32:47Vanessa Vakharia: Uh, what it really is, is being able to claim whatever identity you want as a woman is not an option for you if you also wanna be seen as smart.
- 32:54Vanessa Vakharia: You know, Math Therapy, the book, if you haven't seen it, it's pink, and I wanted to make a pink book.
- 32:59Vanessa Vakharia: And my publisher, Corwin, they were very supportive, but they also said,"We're, we're totally down.
- 33:03Vanessa Vakharia: We'll make a pink book, but some people won't buy it." Imagine that.
- 33:08Vanessa Vakharia: Some people won't buy it.
- 33:09Vanessa Vakharia: It's too girly.
- 33:10Vanessa Vakharia: It's too girly, and what does that mean?
- 33:13Vanessa Vakharia: It means that some people won't take it seriously.
- 33:16Vanessa Vakharia: Imagine the color of the cover of a book actually influencing what somebody thinks of the contents.
- 33:24Vanessa Vakharia: But I mean, I guess that's why they say the whole thing about like don't judge a book by its cover, but that's not the point.
- 33:28Vanessa Vakharia: I mean, it is, actually it is the point.
- 33:29Vanessa Vakharia: But like that's the thing, right?
- 33:31Vanessa Vakharia: It's this idea, and people who are wearing this shirt are probably not trying to communicate this, but that's the message.
- 33:39Vanessa Vakharia: When we're buying this shirt, when we're being like,"I like this post," like, oh my God, I should...
- 33:44Vanessa Vakharia: There's so many comments being like,"I wish I had this in high school," or,"This shirt is so me." Like, we are just reinforcing that stereotype.
- 33:52Vanessa Vakharia: And we're reinforcing the stereotype because the cultural belief underneath why the joke works is that being feminine and being mathematical don't naturally belong together.
- 34:01Vanessa Vakharia: That's why it's a joke, right?
- 34:03Vanessa Vakharia: If the shirt said,"I'm too handsome to do math," it wouldn't be funny.
- 34:07Vanessa Vakharia: People would be like,"What?" Because there's no cultural belief that like men or attractive men aren't also intelligent, but there is for women, and that is just messed up.
- 34:20Vanessa Vakharia: It's just messed up that it's still happening in 2026.
- 34:23Vanessa Vakharia: Now, I read to you guys...
- 34:24Vanessa Vakharia: Okay, so tho- those are the three trends, okay?
- 34:26Vanessa Vakharia: We've got the two reels, and we've got the shirts.
- 34:29Vanessa Vakharia: We've got the comment sections, which are just reaffirming that these are landing, right?
- 34:35Vanessa Vakharia: But with the shirt, something more amazing happened.
- 34:39Vanessa Vakharia: What happened to me back in 2011 is happening now.
- 34:43Vanessa Vakharia: People have been posting about the shirt, explaining why it's so culturally damaging.
- 34:49Vanessa Vakharia: People have been saying they want that shirt taken down.
- 34:51Vanessa Vakharia: National science organizations, STEM organizations, math organizations, women's only organizations, like feminist organizations, news outlets have s- have latched on.
- 35:02Vanessa Vakharia: Why have they latched on?
- 35:04Vanessa Vakharia: Because of social media.
- 35:05Vanessa Vakharia: Because of you guys posting, reposting that shirt, explaining why it's a problem, explaining it's problematic, contacting news and media folks.
- 35:13Vanessa Vakharia: And guys, I have great news.
- 35:16Vanessa Vakharia: On this day, the shirt has been taken down.
- 35:18Vanessa Vakharia: It is no longer for sale, and it just shows you what power we have.
- 35:23Vanessa Vakharia: I mean, you can say all you want about social media, but this is the good thing about it, is we took that shit down, so it's no longer available.
- 35:30Vanessa Vakharia: Now, that leads me to, what can we do, right?
- 35:33Vanessa Vakharia: When we see this stuff, I have so many messages from you guys being like,"I'm so pissed off.
- 35:36Vanessa Vakharia: I'm so sick of seeing this stuff.
- 35:38Vanessa Vakharia: It makes me so upset." What can we do?
- 35:41Vanessa Vakharia: Well, the first is to realize that what we say, what we project, what we share, what we wear sends a message.
- 35:49Vanessa Vakharia: Every time we say,"I'm bad at math.
- 35:50Vanessa Vakharia: I've never been a math person.
- 35:52Vanessa Vakharia: My brain just doesn't work that way," we strengthen that belief.
- 35:55Vanessa Vakharia: And then when thousands of other people agree, it becomes even more deeply rooted.
- 35:59Vanessa Vakharia: This is the nature of stereotype reinforcement, right?
- 36:02Vanessa Vakharia: The comments aren't just describing someone's identity, they're reinforcing it, reinforcing it.
- 36:07Vanessa Vakharia: Every time someone likes it, it reinforces it.
- 36:09Vanessa Vakharia: And that's why these trends matter, not just because they're offensive, but because they're showing us in real time how math trauma continues to live long, long after people leave school.
- 36:18Vanessa Vakharia: So what do we do?
- 36:19Vanessa Vakharia: What do we do here?
- 36:20Vanessa Vakharia: I'm gonna share a few things we can do.
- 36:21Vanessa Vakharia: If you're listening to this, you're getting all fired up.
- 36:23Vanessa Vakharia: You're like,"I've seen that trend.
- 36:25Vanessa Vakharia: What do I do the next time it pops across my feed?" Here are a few things.
- 36:29Vanessa Vakharia: I'm not saying we should stop making jokes, right?
- 36:31Vanessa Vakharia: Humor can absolutely be a part of healing.
- 36:34Vanessa Vakharia: But when a joke is reinforcing a embedded stereotype that is harmful, we have to stop.
- 36:40Vanessa Vakharia: We have to ask ourselves why is that joke funny, and if it's funny because it's reinforcing something that we wanna stop perpetuating, then maybe we shouldn't be making that joke.
- 36:50Vanessa Vakharia: Questions we can ask ourselves when we see something like this and we're about to laugh or about to share is, why is this so relatable?
- 36:57Vanessa Vakharia: Why do so many adults still carry these beliefs?
- 37:00Vanessa Vakharia: What happened in our classrooms that made millions of people feel this way?
- 37:04Vanessa Vakharia: And what would it look like to stop treating math anxiety like a personality trait and start treating it like an experience we can heal from.
- 37:12Vanessa Vakharia: Next, don't share it.
- 37:14Vanessa Vakharia: That's honestly...
- 37:15Vanessa Vakharia: If you're like,"I don't wanna comment, I don't..."'Cause, you know, I also don't wanna start a whole war here, right?
- 37:19Vanessa Vakharia: The per- uh, to- in my opinion, the people posting these reels have math trauma.
- 37:24Vanessa Vakharia: That's why they're posting them.
- 37:26Vanessa Vakharia: So, like, getting into the comments and being like,"You're being so damaging.
- 37:29Vanessa Vakharia: Stop perpetuating..." I don't, I actually don't think that's the move.
- 37:31Vanessa Vakharia: I've been commenting on them being like, Hey, I totally understand why you're sharing this.
- 37:36Vanessa Vakharia: I'm so sorry you feel that way.
- 37:38Vanessa Vakharia: Let me tell you about my experience'cause I actually felt like I couldn't do math, and then, like, I found out that, like, someone had been explaining it to me in a way that just didn't suit my needs," or,"Another teacher explained it this right way," or,"There's still hope," or,"You never have to do math again.
- 37:52Vanessa Vakharia: I totally support that, but I want you to know that, like, I know you can do it," or...
- 37:56Vanessa Vakharia: You know what I mean?
- 37:57Vanessa Vakharia: Like, I'm more t- likely to comment something like that.
- 38:00Vanessa Vakharia: I also do look through the comments, and if I see somebody being like,"I feel this way, too.
- 38:05Vanessa Vakharia: I had this teacher who did this," or like,"I was always told I was stupid," I usually comment something nice.
- 38:10Vanessa Vakharia: But honestly, the, the number one thing you can do and the easiest thing you can do is just don't share it.
- 38:16Vanessa Vakharia: Don't keep that thing circulating, right?
- 38:19Vanessa Vakharia: The more it circulates, the more people are getting it across their feed.
- 38:22Vanessa Vakharia: And the third thing you can do is what all of these people did with the shirt.
- 38:26Vanessa Vakharia: Make your own media.
- 38:27Vanessa Vakharia: Make your own reel explaining why you think this is problematic or sending a different message.
- 38:32Vanessa Vakharia: Contact media outlets.
- 38:33Vanessa Vakharia: Email the companies that are making shit like,"I'm too pretty to do math" shirts, right?
- 38:38Vanessa Vakharia: Like, it makes a difference.
- 38:41Vanessa Vakharia: Get a Math Therapy crew together, like a, a Math Therapy street team, and when you see stuff like this, call it out and create a counter-message.
- 38:49Vanessa Vakharia: It was really cool.
- 38:50Vanessa Vakharia: I actually saw an organization actually posted about this"I'm too pretty to do math" shirt, and they wrote, you know, they wrote a whole blurb about why it was problematic, and then they said,"Drop in the comments a different message we could put on a shirt instead." Okay, here are some of the things people commented.
- 39:07Vanessa Vakharia: I'm gonna read some of them to you because they're funny.
- 39:09Vanessa Vakharia: Okay, the first one says,"I'm too pretty not to do math." Then someone wrote,"It's Mrs.
- 39:14Vanessa Vakharia: Doctor to you." We've got,"brains, beauty, and big equations""Solving problems, looking fabulous""My favorite subject is myself and math""Math is my superpower" love that,"Currently solving for my future" Girls do math, too, get over it." I mean, there are so many, and I love this, and honestly, let's see that merch.
- 39:34Vanessa Vakharia: Honestly, that's another thing you can do.
- 39:36Vanessa Vakharia: Go make a shirt.
- 39:37Vanessa Vakharia: Go make that shirt right now.
- 39:38Vanessa Vakharia: Make a mug.
- 39:39Vanessa Vakharia: Make a tote.
- 39:40Vanessa Vakharia: You know, when I wrote my master's thesis, by the way, in 2010, you know, in, in my thesis, I was providing all these solutions to, like, this whole problem, and one of my solutions was that Paris Hilton should make a brand of clothing that says...
- 39:52Vanessa Vakharia: you know how her thing is, like,"That's hot"?
- 39:54Vanessa Vakharia: I was like,"She should make a whole brand that's, like,'Math is hot.'" I was like, imagine she wore that shirt and girls bought that shirt and wore it.
- 40:01Vanessa Vakharia: It-- like, we need to change...
- 40:03Vanessa Vakharia: I, I'm such a believer in the power of pop culture, and our influence over it with social media now is so much more than when I wrote that thesis in 2010, we had, like, no social power, at least social media-wise.
- 40:15Vanessa Vakharia: Now, we can, we can make our own merch.
- 40:17Vanessa Vakharia: We can make this shit.
- 40:18Vanessa Vakharia: I'm gonna make this stuff.
- 40:19Vanessa Vakharia: I'm gonna make it.
- 40:19Vanessa Vakharia: That's it.
- 40:20Vanessa Vakharia: I'm making it.
- 40:20Vanessa Vakharia: Okay, fine.
- 40:21Vanessa Vakharia: Great.
- 40:22Vanessa Vakharia: Oh my God, as if I need more work to do.
- 40:23Vanessa Vakharia: I am making it.
- 40:24Vanessa Vakharia: That is how we're ending this episode.
- 40:26Vanessa Vakharia: I am making it.
- 40:27Vanessa Vakharia: Tell me what slogans.
- 40:28Vanessa Vakharia: That is what you're texting me.
- 40:29Vanessa Vakharia: Text me the T-shirt slogans you wanna see.
- 40:32Vanessa Vakharia: Also, do we want mugs?
- 40:34Vanessa Vakharia: Do we want totes?
- 40:34Vanessa Vakharia: Like, what do we want?
- 40:35Vanessa Vakharia: Make it, and I'm gonna make us an entire back to school line to combat this bullshit I'm too pretty to do math shit.
- 40:42Vanessa Vakharia: Okay, that was a lot of swearing.
- 40:43Vanessa Vakharia: That was too much swearing in one sentence.
- 40:44Vanessa Vakharia: Guys, okay, this has been so amazing.
- 40:46Vanessa Vakharia: Thank you for listening.
- 40:48Vanessa Vakharia: Thank you for being the change we all wish to see.
- 40:50Vanessa Vakharia: Let's remember that these trends are not creating math trauma.
- 40:53Vanessa Vakharia: They are revealing math trauma, and unfortunately reinforcing it, in my opinion.
- 40:57Vanessa Vakharia: They're re-triggering it, but they're also, like, providing this catharsis for people who haven't healed, but I want people to really heal, and I want us to be a part of the change, and I know if you're listening to this, you already are.
- 41:10Vanessa Vakharia: These trends are showing us how many people are still carrying painful stories about math, and that is an opportunity.
- 41:15Vanessa Vakharia: Because once we stop accepting those stories as permanent identities, we can finally start changing them, and that is what we are doing right now.
- 41:22Vanessa Vakharia: Thank you so much for listening.
- 41:23Vanessa Vakharia: Thank you for all the work you do.
- 41:25Vanessa Vakharia: Anytime you see bullshit like this or any trends, DM them to me on Instagram@themathguru.
- 41:31Vanessa Vakharia: Make sure to text the podcast by hitting the link in your show notes.
- 41:33Vanessa Vakharia: Tell me what slogans you wanna see on a shirt, and tell me what other merch to make with that slogan.
- 41:39Vanessa Vakharia: Like, we are taking it back.
- 41:40Vanessa Vakharia: We are making this math is a cool vibe pop culture line.
- 41:44Vanessa Vakharia: We are doing it right now.
- 41:46Vanessa Vakharia: I am committed to the task.
- 41:48Vanessa Vakharia: Okay, the end.
- 41:49Vanessa Vakharia: Love you.
- 41:50Vanessa Vakharia: See you next week.
- 41:51Vanessa Vakharia: Thank you for fighting the good fight.
- 41:53Vanessa Vakharia: We would be nowhere without you, and we are everywhere because of you.
- 41:57Vanessa Vakharia: Xoxo.