Latest / Foul Territory / Venezuela ends Italy’s epic run and heads to a heavyweight battle against USA in the WBC title match
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- 0:04Speaker 1: FT Live postgame show presented by Fox One. One game
- 0:09Speaker 1: to Go. But first, let's recap what we just saw.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Venezuela heading to the WBC Final for the first time.
- 0:18Speaker 1: Italy had an insane run, the Cinderella story, but they
- 0:22Speaker 1: were stopped here after a two to nothing lead, they
- 0:24Speaker 1: go down by a four to two final. It's bron
- 0:27Speaker 1: Kratz and Todd Father. That was a fun one and
- 0:31Speaker 1: Todd we had talked about how Venezuela had.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Some big names in their lineup.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Italy held them down for a while, but eventually they
- 0:38Speaker 1: got to Michael Lorenzen and and that was it.
- 0:40Speaker 3: Yeah, there was an opportunity there too, you know, for
- 0:43Speaker 3: Italy to kind of get a couple more runs here
- 0:46Speaker 3: and there, but Venezuela's bullpen came through and they found
- 0:49Speaker 3: a way to get the strikeout or the ground out
- 0:51Speaker 3: or what have you.
- 0:52Speaker 4: There.
- 0:54Speaker 3: Give credit to Venezuela and they never backed down. That's
- 0:56Speaker 3: why you played nine innings all with two outs, and
- 1:00Speaker 3: it was just it was truly remarkable watching this team
- 1:03Speaker 3: come through four to two win another low scoring game.
- 1:08Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
- 1:09Speaker 3: It was fun game to watch and the crowd was
- 1:11Speaker 3: waiting to get fired up and then next you know,
- 1:14Speaker 3: the seventh inning, the music went off, an infield single
- 1:17Speaker 3: by Ronald Acuna, and then there was an opportunity. What
- 1:21Speaker 3: they wanted to do to keep Lorenzen in or out.
- 1:23Speaker 3: We can talk about that as we move forward. But again,
- 1:27Speaker 3: Venezuela coming through Italy, what a great run. That's their
- 1:30Speaker 3: first loss in this tournament or in this Classic. I
- 1:33Speaker 3: should say so, give kudos to them.
- 1:36Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, nobody even thought Italy was gonna advance,
- 1:39Speaker 5: thought it was gonna be us in Mexico. Italy wins
- 1:41Speaker 5: their pool advances, gets to this point, had to lead.
- 1:46Speaker 5: I mean, they had the game under control. I'm gonna
- 1:49Speaker 5: have to go and say Omar Lopez made a move
- 1:53Speaker 5: that we didn't see last night. Obviously we're seeing these
- 1:56Speaker 5: games back to back. Pool hosts did not make the
- 1:58Speaker 5: move when and Austin Wells was on second base late
- 2:02Speaker 5: in the game, I think it was a seventh Glabor Torres,
- 2:07Speaker 5: who's definitely coming out for defense anyway, because Andre Simenez
- 2:10Speaker 5: is on the bench, Clabor Torres is on first base
- 2:13Speaker 5: and they put Andre Semenez in. He ends up scoring
- 2:17Speaker 5: the run. They end up getting four hits in a
- 2:20Speaker 5: row no dingers for them. It was one of those
- 2:23Speaker 5: things that you go, is this the script of how
- 2:26Speaker 5: it was gonna happen? For Like, if you told me
- 2:28Speaker 5: there's no dingers in the game, I would say Italy
- 2:31Speaker 5: wins it.
- 2:32Speaker 6: And Italy I think.
- 2:33Speaker 5: They drew five walks, including a including an intentional walk.
- 2:39Speaker 5: Was it was definitely a game that was able to
- 2:43Speaker 5: be won by Italy. But Venezuel's bullpen, to me, was
- 2:47Speaker 5: really the stopper here tonight.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Yeah, the chance for Italy was kider Montero losing it
- 2:55Speaker 1: three consecutive walks.
- 2:56Speaker 2: Italy took advantage.
- 2:57Speaker 1: They put up a two spot early in that game,
- 2:59Speaker 1: and there was one danger if you remember earlier, did
- 3:02Speaker 1: you say none, I mean none during that run?
- 3:04Speaker 2: But Gino Swarez, yeah.
- 3:06Speaker 5: Right right right, yeah, none, you're saying none during that
- 3:08Speaker 5: for that three run inning.
- 3:11Speaker 1: Three run all on two outs, right, two out knocks
- 3:15Speaker 1: for the team to just keep things rolling. So Venezuela
- 3:18Speaker 1: just too much for Italy here. Let's talk about the
- 3:21Speaker 1: decision first off play manager for a moment. Todd Father,
- 3:25Speaker 1: did you feel like Michael Lorenzen ran out of gas
- 3:28Speaker 1: or were they putting together good at bats?
- 3:31Speaker 2: He didn't. I mean he was good.
- 3:32Speaker 1: He was mixing and matching like he was against USA
- 3:34Speaker 1: for a while, and then all of a sudden, Venezuela
- 3:37Speaker 1: figured him out.
- 3:38Speaker 3: Yeah, his his change up was really good, his breaking
- 3:41Speaker 3: ball was really good.
- 3:44Speaker 4: I just did.
- 3:44Speaker 3: I felt like he ran out of gas. He looked exhausted.
- 3:47Speaker 3: He was getting up in that forty mark of pitches,
- 3:50Speaker 3: and you know, some of these guys haven't double them all.
- 3:52Speaker 3: These guys haven't done this, you know, pitching in big
- 3:56Speaker 3: games for one and pitching that many pitches trying to
- 3:58Speaker 3: get going. I thought, after Ronald Acun you got the
- 4:01Speaker 3: infield single, I thought it was time to yank him there.
- 4:06Speaker 4: Cervelli didn't do it.
- 4:07Speaker 3: And then after the knock there, I thought that should
- 4:10Speaker 3: have been the last straw. And then he left him
- 4:12Speaker 3: in again and Aries got another single. Yeah, I could
- 4:17Speaker 3: say that right now. I'm not the manager, but you
- 4:20Speaker 3: got to see somebody's labor, and you went out and
- 4:22Speaker 3: talked to him.
- 4:22Speaker 4: I'm sure he's like, no, I got this.
- 4:23Speaker 3: But you got to be the guy as the manager
- 4:27Speaker 3: to make the tough decisions, and in my opinion, they
- 4:30Speaker 3: had the bullpen to do it. They came out and
- 4:32Speaker 3: locked down as you saw, so could have should have
- 4:35Speaker 3: wor it. But I felt like once the infield single
- 4:38Speaker 3: came through the tider game, I thought it was time
- 4:40Speaker 3: to put somebody else in because he wasn't overpowering, you know,
- 4:43Speaker 3: and that's what worked for him in the beginning. It
- 4:46Speaker 3: just didn't work for him late.
- 4:48Speaker 5: Yeah, kudos to Venezuela for putting the ball in play
- 4:51Speaker 5: and not trying to go deep off of me. Lorenzo
- 4:54Speaker 5: wasn't going to let him go deep. He was not
- 4:56Speaker 5: going to let them beat him with the loan ball,
- 4:59Speaker 5: and they kind of made the adjustment there. But I
- 5:01Speaker 5: also think Cervelli he knew what he had. He knew
- 5:06Speaker 5: he had Nichols for an inning, He knew he had
- 5:08Speaker 5: rom aer Naccio for an inning. It was one of
- 5:12Speaker 5: those things I think he needed. He needed seven out
- 5:16Speaker 5: of Nola and Lorenzen. It was an amazing I honestly
- 5:20Speaker 5: had no idea they were going to go go with Lorenzen,
- 5:23Speaker 5: but I think they just figured, hey, these are four,
- 5:26Speaker 5: these are four best pitchers to try to get through
- 5:28Speaker 5: nine innings, because as the bullpen gets a little bit,
- 5:33Speaker 5: you know, past those guys, they didn't really you saw
- 5:36Speaker 5: it against Team USA. They were able to add some
- 5:39Speaker 5: runs on. They never ended up catching up to him,
- 5:42Speaker 5: but they added runs on off of some of the
- 5:44Speaker 5: guys in the bullpen that maybe Cervelli didn't want to
- 5:46Speaker 5: go to. So that's why he stretched Lorenzo a little
- 5:50Speaker 5: bit farther.
- 5:52Speaker 2: So who stood out?
- 5:53Speaker 1: Let's pick a player of the game, presented by MLB Ribles.
- 5:57Speaker 1: You want to pick a name who wants to go
- 5:59Speaker 1: with it first? Where maybe you guys agree on the
- 6:01Speaker 1: same player top bother do you want?
- 6:03Speaker 3: I think I think we agreed on this one, mikeel Franco.
- 6:06Speaker 3: I think listen, four to two ball game, it's going
- 6:09Speaker 3: to be really hard to pick somebody unless they got
- 6:12Speaker 3: a three, three run homer or a big matchup. But
- 6:15Speaker 3: you got to go with the biggest hit of the game. Uh,
- 6:18Speaker 3: the base hit the left to give them the lead
- 6:20Speaker 3: for good pretty much. So two for four, he's back
- 6:23Speaker 3: in four to thirty five, coming out of his shell again.
- 6:27Speaker 3: A couple of years ago, this guy was unheard of,
- 6:29Speaker 3: and now all of a sudden this last year and
- 6:31Speaker 3: now he's a name that everybody knows about. Came up big,
- 6:35Speaker 3: nice line drive to left field, Acuna went first to third.
- 6:39Speaker 3: The wheels were spinning there too, So give credit where
- 6:42Speaker 3: it's due.
- 6:44Speaker 4: Franco for sure.
- 6:46Speaker 1: Yeah, Michael Garcia Garcia, excuse me, Garci Garcia, but oh well,
- 6:51Speaker 1: Michael Franco. Uh, you guys played against back in the day.
- 6:54Speaker 4: I know, I get those two mixed up all the time.
- 6:57Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a new mikel taking over and a
- 6:59Speaker 1: Richard kel Kratz. Remember we talked about him a couple
- 7:02Speaker 1: of years or a couple months ago getting paid, and
- 7:05Speaker 1: he's having the time of his life right now. He's
- 7:08Speaker 1: set for life financially, He's playing on a competitive Royals team.
- 7:11Speaker 1: He gets to play with Bobby Witt every day during
- 7:13Speaker 1: the regular season, and he's playing on a Venezuela team
- 7:16Speaker 1: that has a freaking party. You know, I love parties.
- 7:18Speaker 1: I'm watching this as like a raver, and I'm like,
- 7:20Speaker 1: these guys are putting on a freaking dance party before
- 7:22Speaker 1: and after the game.
- 7:24Speaker 6: Think about a calendar year.
- 7:26Speaker 5: We're not even at opening day yet, and mikekel Garcia
- 7:29Speaker 5: did not even start opening day for the Royals at
- 7:31Speaker 5: third base. He did not play opening day. Now you're
- 7:34Speaker 5: talking about a nice little five year piece that he
- 7:36Speaker 5: got broke off, and he's part of a team that
- 7:40Speaker 5: has to be thinking that they want some revenge, but
- 7:44Speaker 5: they also have to sit here and go, a man,
- 7:48Speaker 5: where are we at with our bullpen? Because their bullpen
- 7:50Speaker 5: could have been the MVP of the game. With Avila
- 7:53Speaker 5: giving you thirty two pitches and two in a thirds innings.
- 7:57Speaker 5: You had Daniel Palencia who came in didn't shut the
- 8:00Speaker 5: door yet, Zurpa, who was absolutely I mean they might
- 8:04Speaker 5: rename some of his pitches a Zurpa. So there were
- 8:06Speaker 5: some guys down there that really held the game and
- 8:09Speaker 5: didn't allow Italy, who had been scoring a lot of
- 8:12Speaker 5: runs this whole tournament, to only two runs. So kudos
- 8:15Speaker 5: to them too. After Caterer didn't do well, it looked
- 8:19Speaker 5: like it looked like he was just it didn't look
- 8:22Speaker 5: like he was off. It looked like he was trying
- 8:24Speaker 5: to get these guys to nibble, and so credit to
- 8:26Speaker 5: Italy for not chasing.
- 8:28Speaker 2: Oh, they didn't nibble at all.
- 8:30Speaker 1: At one point I remember soon you know, it might
- 8:33Speaker 1: have been after he was taken out, or if not,
- 8:35Speaker 1: it was right around when they had him on the ropes.
- 8:37Speaker 1: I think twenty one pitches outside the zone and they
- 8:40Speaker 1: bit at one of them. They just weren't biting. And
- 8:42Speaker 1: then this is part of what made Italy special. So
- 8:44Speaker 1: we're going to preview the next matchup, but let's do
- 8:47Speaker 1: a minute on Team Italy, Todd Father and how special
- 8:51Speaker 1: this run was, what you saw from this team and
- 8:53Speaker 1: what it does for the country of Italy that finally
- 8:57Speaker 1: had baseball center stage. Right they're watching a national television
- 9:01Speaker 1: game in Italy and apparently like half the country was
- 9:03Speaker 1: watching it. And vinnip already spoke after the game and
- 9:06Speaker 1: said he hopes there's kids in Italy watching right now
- 9:09Speaker 1: that are going to see how fun this is and
- 9:11Speaker 1: that the next team for Italy that's great, like this
- 9:15Speaker 1: is full of more players from the country.
- 9:18Speaker 3: It's very inspirational, basically what you alluded to. I mean,
- 9:22Speaker 3: if you're from Italy, you talk soccer, you talk other sports,
- 9:25Speaker 3: you don't necessarily talk baseball the whole time.
- 9:28Speaker 4: I know Mike Piazza lives out there.
- 9:30Speaker 3: He's trying to brew up all these younger Italianos to
- 9:34Speaker 3: get going, get a baseball batman and enjoy this wonderful game.
- 9:39Speaker 3: This is truly remarkable for them. You saw a lot
- 9:41Speaker 3: of unsung heroes, a lot of names that eventually you
- 9:44Speaker 3: might hear in the next couple of years playing the
- 9:46Speaker 3: big leagues and take off. They were awesome. They were awesome,
- 9:51Speaker 3: they were fun to watch. They beat the United States
- 9:53Speaker 3: of America, a team that might win the whole thing.
- 9:56Speaker 3: I mean, they can always look back on that they
- 9:58Speaker 3: made it to a semi final matchup in the World
- 10:01Speaker 3: Baseball Classic. There's a lot of good athletes, a lot
- 10:04Speaker 3: of American Italians that have played this baseball game that
- 10:07Speaker 3: are wonderful at this game. And you know, I can't
- 10:11Speaker 3: wait to see what they do in the Olympics too.
- 10:12Speaker 3: You never know what's going to happen. So kudos to them. Cheers,
- 10:17Speaker 3: how you doing all that good stuff? And have another
- 10:20Speaker 3: express th Baby. It was fun to watch.
- 10:23Speaker 5: I can't I can't wait until Andrew Fisher comes on
- 10:26Speaker 5: the show. So when Todd gets him on the show
- 10:28Speaker 5: this Friday, So look forward to that on FT. But
- 10:32Speaker 5: when you have a when you have a Italian baseball
- 10:35Speaker 5: club that has had a history of baseball, not necessarily
- 10:39Speaker 5: as like the main sport in Italy, but there's an
- 10:42Speaker 5: Italian professional league, there's there's the families like like what
- 10:46Speaker 5: Tommy Lasorda when he was helping do that. Jason Grilly,
- 10:50Speaker 5: He's got incredible stories of Italian baseball. You got the
- 10:54Speaker 5: Colabello family, you have obviously Piazza is you know the
- 10:59Speaker 5: name that's coming out there, that that's out there as
- 11:02Speaker 5: a Hall of Famer. But you sit there and you
- 11:04Speaker 5: go everyone that's ever been part of Italian baseball needs
- 11:08Speaker 5: to be and should be proud of what this team accomplished, because,
- 11:14Speaker 5: like Todd said, there's some young dudes that have already
- 11:17Speaker 5: established themselves. Vinyp is no fossil. Jack cagleone is just
- 11:22Speaker 5: into the league. And if Fisher and Dezenzio, Dezenzio can
- 11:30Speaker 5: be in there, like you get guys that are making
- 11:34Speaker 5: names for themselves. You watch Our Phillies show on the
- 11:36Speaker 5: FT Network and they're talking about Dante Nori and what
- 11:41Speaker 5: he's been doing in WBC and how this will be
- 11:43Speaker 5: kind of a catapult for him. I think start the
- 11:46Speaker 5: season in Double A. There's so much, so much positive
- 11:48Speaker 5: going on with Italian baseball right now because of this.
- 11:52Speaker 1: I'll also say this, I think Vinnip is making himself
- 11:55Speaker 1: some money. Whether he stays with the Royals long term,
- 11:58Speaker 1: or eventually hits free agency. He's more than just you know, power,
- 12:03Speaker 1: nice defense at first, right gets on base, he can
- 12:07Speaker 1: completely command a ball club. And you saw him do that, right,
- 12:12Speaker 1: And there are a lot of younger players, but I
- 12:13Speaker 1: mean he has really gripped this. And also, I mean,
- 12:15Speaker 1: Todd Father, you've seen guys, including yourself, probably grow as
- 12:18Speaker 1: a leader as you get older. Vinn he's still young, right,
- 12:21Speaker 1: so when you go through an experience like this, he's
- 12:23Speaker 1: going to take this back to the Royals. I know
- 12:25Speaker 1: the Royals are Salvador Perez his team in terms of
- 12:27Speaker 1: the emotional leader's been there for a long time. He's
- 12:30Speaker 1: the only guy with the world series title from the
- 12:32Speaker 1: last run. Bobby WIT's a little quieter, but definitely emerging
- 12:35Speaker 1: as a leader. Vinny p is just like he's entertaining.
- 12:38Speaker 2: He's fun.
- 12:39Speaker 1: You want to be around him. He's singing on the plane,
- 12:41Speaker 1: he's ripping espresso shots with everyone. We have him on
- 12:44Speaker 1: the show and he's one of our favorite guests. So
- 12:46Speaker 1: I just think he's really had his coming out party here.
- 12:50Speaker 4: Agreed, Agreed totally.
- 12:52Speaker 3: And the three homer game is going to be talked
- 12:54Speaker 3: about in Italian lore for for as long as he lives.
- 12:59Speaker 3: I mean definitely, these guys are going to go back
- 13:01Speaker 3: and playing back in spring trending.
- 13:03Speaker 4: They're gonna be bored. Man, They're where's where's the crowd?
- 13:06Speaker 4: Where's all this?
- 13:07Speaker 3: So they're gonna have to come back to life a
- 13:09Speaker 3: little bit and you know, go out and play for
- 13:12Speaker 3: each other again.
- 13:13Speaker 4: I think that's what you bring back.
- 13:16Speaker 3: You bring back a little bit of culture, a little
- 13:18Speaker 3: bit of you know, raz, a little bit of more
- 13:20Speaker 3: fun of this game and the enjoyment of dude, you
- 13:24Speaker 3: just hit a home run.
- 13:25Speaker 4: Let's make the best out of it, Let's have fun
- 13:27Speaker 4: with it.
- 13:27Speaker 3: And I think that's what he's going to bring back
- 13:30Speaker 3: a little more joy in baseball, a little more fun times.
- 13:32Speaker 3: And hopefully fans catch on to all this stuff because
- 13:36Speaker 3: it's a lot of fun when there's more fun in.
- 13:38Speaker 2: Baseball and there's one more fun run to go.
- 13:43Speaker 1: We're about to do a preview of what's next, Team
- 13:46Speaker 1: USA against Venezuela. A reminder where you can watch that game.
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- 14:19Speaker 2: So all love there. They've done a great job covering it,
- 14:22Speaker 2: and this is it. There's just one game left.
- 14:25Speaker 1: The World Baseball Classic twenty twenty six final comes down
- 14:29Speaker 1: to Venezuela and Team USA eight pm Eastern on Tuesday
- 14:37Speaker 1: night in Miami, a ballpark that will be ridiculously electric.
- 14:44Speaker 1: It was like that tonight when Venezuela charged back. It
- 14:47Speaker 1: was a scene in the seventh inning. It was loud
- 14:50Speaker 1: as hell. There are a ton of Venezuelans that live
- 14:54Speaker 1: in Miami now and they filled up that ballpark. They
- 14:57Speaker 1: will be trying to fill that ballpark up on Tuesday.
- 15:00Speaker 1: Oh well, the American fans, it's gonna be a super
- 15:02Speaker 1: hot ticket. What are we thinking heading into this one?
- 15:05Speaker 1: Todd Father.
- 15:06Speaker 2: The Venezuela lineup has plenty.
- 15:09Speaker 1: Of all stars. They've got a little superstar mix like
- 15:11Speaker 1: Ronald d'acunyan Junior. I'm waiting for him to go nuts
- 15:14Speaker 1: Jackson Curio in the nine spot. That's pretty special. And
- 15:17Speaker 1: then of course we know what team USA has and
- 15:19Speaker 1: we haven't seen some of the USA guys blow up.
- 15:22Speaker 1: Like last game it was the young'ins, right, you had
- 15:25Speaker 1: Roman Anthony with a big homer, Gunner Henderson with a
- 15:27Speaker 1: big homer. Are we going to see, you know, an
- 15:29Speaker 1: Aaron Judge or a Bryce Harper who's been really quiet
- 15:32Speaker 1: step up and put on a show. What are you
- 15:34Speaker 1: thinking for this one? It's it should be EDWARDO Rodriguez
- 15:37Speaker 1: and it's definitely against Nolan MacLean on the other side
- 15:40Speaker 1: to start it.
- 15:41Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, first off, you know, even with the rules,
- 15:44Speaker 3: all hands on deck, I guess whomever can go, so
- 15:47Speaker 3: everybody's gonna have to be ready in that instance, I
- 15:50Speaker 3: think it's gonna be USA's time to come out of
- 15:53Speaker 3: their show, like you said, And I think the big
- 15:55Speaker 3: names are gonna show up. I think the Bobby witz
- 15:57Speaker 3: are gonna make the plays in diving plays left and right.
- 16:01Speaker 3: You're gonna see the Aaron Judges get underneath baseball as
- 16:04Speaker 3: you're gonna see Bryce Harper maybe go opposite field because
- 16:06Speaker 3: once he goes opoh, good things are coming.
- 16:10Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 16:11Speaker 3: I think it all starts with Bobby Witt. That's the
- 16:14Speaker 3: guy the straw that stirs a drink. You see, when
- 16:16Speaker 3: he doesn't get on base, not many runs are scored.
- 16:19Speaker 3: So if this guy could find a way to get
- 16:20Speaker 3: on base, which I think he will eventually, USA is
- 16:24Speaker 3: gonna take charge in this game. And I think they're
- 16:26Speaker 3: gonna have an outpour runs and I think it's gonna
- 16:29Speaker 3: they're gonna show everybody why they're the number one team
- 16:32Speaker 3: in the world.
- 16:33Speaker 5: Tomorrow, I think I can take advantage of the fact
- 16:37Speaker 5: that Venezuela does not have enough in their bullpen unless
- 16:41Speaker 5: unless there's some guys that are allowed on March let's
- 16:45Speaker 5: see what will be March seventeenth to do a back
- 16:49Speaker 5: to back. Usually the back to backs are for like
- 16:52Speaker 5: the last the last outing of spring training. And I
- 16:55Speaker 5: know we're coming to the end of spring training here
- 16:57Speaker 5: because the season opens on the twenty six, But I
- 17:02Speaker 5: have a hard time believing that Venezuela has all of
- 17:05Speaker 5: their all their horses coming out of the bullpen. I'm
- 17:07Speaker 5: not saying that they're not gonna fight for it, but
- 17:10Speaker 5: to me, that's where Team USA. They do take good
- 17:14Speaker 5: long at bats. They did strike out too much the
- 17:17Speaker 5: last game, but they take long at bats and they're
- 17:19Speaker 5: gonna work those pitch counts up and at some point
- 17:22Speaker 5: they're gonna get to somebody in the pen that they're
- 17:24Speaker 5: gonna they're gonna break it open against.
- 17:27Speaker 1: Can I ask you guys a question because there are
- 17:28Speaker 1: two good closers on each side. Ken Rosenthal, along with
- 17:32Speaker 1: other colleagues that the Athletic came out with a story
- 17:34Speaker 1: a few hours before the Venezuela Italy game that said
- 17:39Speaker 1: Mason Miller is not a definite. They're gonna see how
- 17:41Speaker 1: he's feeling ahead of the game. It would be his
- 17:44Speaker 1: third appearance in five days. The Padres are probably not
- 17:47Speaker 1: thrilled with Mason Miller potentially appearing again. Pumping one oh
- 17:51Speaker 1: two plus in the World Baseball Classic, all amped up.
- 17:55Speaker 1: Mason Miller wants to pitch, but he also did talk
- 17:58Speaker 1: about how he wants to be smart about it. So
- 18:00Speaker 1: that's that situation. He is eligible, And I want to
- 18:02Speaker 1: be clear on the rules here. Venezuela played and pitched
- 18:06Speaker 1: Danny Palencia. You are allowed to pitch in back to
- 18:09Speaker 1: back games rules wise in the tournament. Do the Chicago
- 18:13Speaker 1: Cubs try and hold him back from pitching, I personally
- 18:18Speaker 1: don't think they can. I mean, I know that they
- 18:21Speaker 1: can make a phone call and make it difficult for him.
- 18:24Speaker 1: Danny Palencia is also one of the better guests we've
- 18:26Speaker 1: had on Foul Territory, and he's like, I would die
- 18:29Speaker 1: for this game, right this is everything to him. And
- 18:32Speaker 1: he's talking about a regular season MLB game. This is
- 18:35Speaker 1: the World Baseball Classic Final. Venezuela is in there for
- 18:39Speaker 1: the first time. Country's been through a lot, A lot
- 18:41Speaker 1: of the citizens are like living and dying for this
- 18:44Speaker 1: game right now. Lency is going to pitch. In my mind, right,
- 18:47Speaker 1: I mean, some people are going to watch this video
- 18:49Speaker 1: later on. We probably will already have an answer on
- 18:51Speaker 1: that one. But in my mind, Todd father Blency's going
- 18:54Speaker 1: to make a phone call and be like, this is
- 18:56Speaker 1: a once in a lifetime opportunity for me.
- 18:58Speaker 2: Cubs please. And Omar Lopez has like snuck a comment
- 19:02Speaker 2: in here and there during the tournament that he is
- 19:06Speaker 2: going to try and push back against teams. There was
- 19:09Speaker 2: one point where I think he said, like a team
- 19:12Speaker 2: asked for some rule and he was like, it's too
- 19:14Speaker 2: late on the rule you're asking anyway. I think that
- 19:16Speaker 2: they're going to say you can pitch. I think Mason
- 19:18Speaker 2: Miller's going to pitch too, if either of them are
- 19:21Speaker 2: in save spots. But what do you think.
- 19:25Speaker 3: I don't think he makes the call if I'm omar,
- 19:28Speaker 3: I'm not even making calls tonight. There's I'm having a
- 19:31Speaker 3: few surveyss and I'm going to bed and my my
- 19:34Speaker 3: phone is off. The only person I'm calling is my
- 19:37Speaker 3: family members and say hey, here's your tickets.
- 19:39Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. They're gonna keep ringing.
- 19:41Speaker 3: Guess what I didn't see The phone didn't work that day,
- 19:44Speaker 3: you know, So all jokes aside. I think, say what
- 19:50Speaker 3: you want to say. But these guys can be very
- 19:53Speaker 3: hard to tell. These guys, hey man, you're not pitching
- 19:56Speaker 3: them all.
- 19:57Speaker 4: They both sides. It's going to be very od.
- 20:02Speaker 6: I don't yeah, I don't see.
- 20:05Speaker 5: I don't see that being an easy conversation. But the
- 20:08Speaker 5: reality is, I still think the US is a better team.
- 20:12Speaker 5: I think the US is a team that overtook a
- 20:17Speaker 5: Dominican team that I thought was playing better and equaled
- 20:22Speaker 5: their star power and maybe even to the point where
- 20:25Speaker 5: position by position, you could have made the argument that
- 20:29Speaker 5: they were better than the starting lineup for the for
- 20:32Speaker 5: the Dominicans were better and they came out on top.
- 20:35Speaker 6: So I think the I think the.
- 20:37Speaker 5: US team is playing well and I think they they
- 20:42Speaker 5: won that game without scoring many runs, So I think
- 20:46Speaker 5: it could be it could be something where this you know,
- 20:48Speaker 5: they start putting some balls out of the ballpark too,
- 20:51Speaker 5: especially when you start looking at some of the mashups.
- 20:54Speaker 5: If it is Eduardo Rodriguez, you're gonna have to get
- 20:56Speaker 5: some pitches out of them. Not saying you need length,
- 20:58Speaker 5: but you need some pitches because of the fact that
- 21:02Speaker 5: while there may not be conversations, there's a there's dudes
- 21:05Speaker 5: that are definitely down and they are not pitching in
- 21:09Speaker 5: the game tomorrow for Venezuela, no matter conversations or not.
- 21:13Speaker 5: They're just physically not going to be able to.
- 21:15Speaker 1: Right by the way right now, USA is moneyline minus
- 21:20Speaker 1: two eighty five on BETMGM cod Father plus two thirty
- 21:25Speaker 1: for Venezuela.
- 21:26Speaker 2: So it's you know, heavily tilted in the US favor.
- 21:30Speaker 1: Coming off a day off, a day of rest, some decisions,
- 21:34Speaker 1: Let's do this I'll give you two decisions to make
- 21:38Speaker 1: third base and catcher Gunder Henderson coming off a big game,
- 21:43Speaker 1: but you're gonna have a lefty in Eduardo Rodriguez. Gunner's
- 21:46Speaker 1: a lefty and Bregman's alrighty. And then also i'll give
- 21:50Speaker 1: you the catcher decision. Will Smith three for ten in
- 21:53Speaker 1: this World Baseball Classic, but he did catch in the
- 21:56Speaker 1: last game. Cal Raley is zero for ten or over
- 22:00Speaker 1: nine make it in the World Baseball Classic. I mean,
- 22:03Speaker 1: these are incredibly small sample sizes. But what would you
- 22:06Speaker 1: do with those two spots.
- 22:08Speaker 2: If you're Mark de Rosa?
- 22:10Speaker 3: How about this? Since I'm played third base, He'll do
- 22:12Speaker 3: the catcher one. I'll do the third base one.
- 22:14Speaker 4: How about that? Good for me?
- 22:17Speaker 3: I'm starting Alex Pragman left on right matchup. I think
- 22:23Speaker 3: Gunner Henderson is going to fully understand that. I know
- 22:27Speaker 3: he looks good. He can he can ultimately do a
- 22:29Speaker 3: sweat like say in the fifth, sixth, seventh inning they
- 22:32Speaker 3: bringing a right hand, or you definitely put Gunner Henderson
- 22:35Speaker 3: in there. You gotta play with the matchups. In my opinion,
- 22:38Speaker 3: you gotta play the game. Yeah, you got to take
- 22:41Speaker 3: all the psyche out of it and understand. Listen, guys,
- 22:45Speaker 3: we're trying to win this game. I want my best
- 22:47Speaker 3: hitters up at the best possible times. Alex Pragman been
- 22:51Speaker 3: there before, a veteran guy. I could see him having
- 22:54Speaker 3: a really good game tomorrow against the left handed pitcher.
- 22:57Speaker 4: I would start Bragman for sure, and.
- 23:00Speaker 5: I would I would concur because if you look at
- 23:03Speaker 5: the stat page against Edwardo Rodriguez, the most likely starter
- 23:08Speaker 5: for Venezuela number eight all time hits against Edwardo Roriguez,
- 23:13Speaker 5: Alex Bregman. He's got nine hits and twenty seven at bats,
- 23:17Speaker 5: three dangers, eight steaks. So Gunner's hot, I get it.
- 23:23Speaker 5: Bragman's not. But Bragman's got He's seen him well, let's
- 23:28Speaker 5: put it that way. See, and there's not much of
- 23:31Speaker 5: a matchup. Cal Rawley's one for three against Eduardo Rodriguez
- 23:35Speaker 5: and Will Smith. I think it's like one for six
- 23:39Speaker 5: or seven. To me, I think Will Smith is the
- 23:41Speaker 5: guy because of the fact that you can still bring
- 23:45Speaker 5: Cal in and you don't lose any advantage if you
- 23:49Speaker 5: do need to make a change. But I think I
- 23:51Speaker 5: think Will prove that he's played well. I really think
- 23:55Speaker 5: it's I think I think it's six and one half
- 23:59Speaker 5: A does another. You're not going to make a wrong
- 24:01Speaker 5: decision with either of those guys. They're both winners and
- 24:05Speaker 5: they both can can put the ball in the seats.
- 24:07Speaker 2: At some point, who is going to start?
- 24:11Speaker 1: Do you think it'll be because, oh, you think it'll
- 24:14Speaker 1: be well, I was going to say, because they've been
- 24:17Speaker 1: going basically every other but I mean now they're coming
- 24:19Speaker 1: off a day off here. It's not like a rest
- 24:22Speaker 1: playing time situation. Also, you shouldn't be worried about that
- 24:25Speaker 1: at this point, there's one game left.
- 24:26Speaker 2: Are you worried that Kyl Rale he's not going to
- 24:29Speaker 2: be ready for the season or something. It's not about that,
- 24:32Speaker 2: you know.
- 24:33Speaker 6: It's about the win. They're looking for the win. Again.
- 24:37Speaker 5: I would maybe even again think about moving Harper down
- 24:42Speaker 5: in the order somewhere. See what that could get you.
- 24:46Speaker 5: But I mean, I think we're splitting hairs. The reality is,
- 24:50Speaker 5: d row stay out of the way. We know it's
- 24:52Speaker 5: a must win game. The players will play, They're going
- 24:55Speaker 5: to be hyped for it.
- 24:59Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be great.
- 25:02Speaker 1: USA versus Dominican Republic was epic and you can't ask
- 25:07Speaker 1: for much better star power here in the lineups.
- 25:10Speaker 2: We just saw it with USA.
- 25:12Speaker 1: Dr Venezuela's had a really good run too. I know
- 25:15Speaker 1: they lost the Dominican Republic at the end of pool play,
- 25:19Speaker 1: but they beat the defending champs in Japan. They came
- 25:22Speaker 1: back late. Italy had a strong ball club, they came back.
- 25:26Speaker 1: I think this will be a good game. I know
- 25:28Speaker 1: you guys are saying, maybe USA opens things up.
- 25:30Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 25:31Speaker 1: I could see Venezuela's lineup keeping up with these guys too.
- 25:37Speaker 1: Nolan McLain, let's finish with this is a young pup.
- 25:40Speaker 1: He's got six stuff and DeRosa can mostly go bullpen
- 25:45Speaker 1: game here if he senses much trouble. This is almost
- 25:48Speaker 1: going to have World Series Game seven vibes. But Nolan
- 25:52Speaker 1: McLain was shook a little bit. I don't know if
- 25:55Speaker 1: that's the right way to put it, but Team Italy
- 25:57Speaker 1: got to him. And if you know, you're an American fan,
- 26:02Speaker 1: and that ends up being the problem. McLean get in
- 26:04Speaker 1: trouble early, giving up a few runs. It brings up
- 26:07Speaker 1: the classic. Hey, you know, do we have the best,
- 26:10Speaker 1: most battle tested pitchers in this moment, is this who
- 26:13Speaker 1: we should have in this spot? Again, I'm not going
- 26:15Speaker 1: off of talent. Nolan McLain looks like he's going to
- 26:18Speaker 1: be a number one in ace in the league, but
- 26:20Speaker 1: we've seen a handful of starts in the big league
- 26:23Speaker 1: so far, so he just I mean, this is by
- 26:25Speaker 1: far the biggest game that he's ever pitched in his life.
- 26:28Speaker 1: The scene in Miami is out of control, and you
- 26:32Speaker 1: can embrace it and relish it. But Kratz, like you know,
- 26:35Speaker 1: when you're working with a young pitcher like this trying
- 26:38Speaker 1: to navigate through a moment, you can see a trey
- 26:40Speaker 1: a savage moment, or sometimes the moment gets a little
- 26:43Speaker 1: big and you know you might overthrow.
- 26:46Speaker 5: Might you might spin that slider a little bit. I mean,
- 26:49Speaker 5: the man can spin it. That slider is going to
- 26:51Speaker 5: be going right to left. Are they going to chase?
- 26:55Speaker 5: That's the biggest thing. If they're not chasing, then he's
- 26:58Speaker 5: got to bring that slider onto the plate, and a
- 27:00Speaker 5: strike slider as a hanging slider, I don't care. I
- 27:03Speaker 5: don't care if you're throwing the meat or if you're
- 27:05Speaker 5: throwing to the Venezuelan MVP lineup. That they have out there.
- 27:10Speaker 5: So to me, it really has to be can he
- 27:12Speaker 5: keep the ball on the plate and can he keep
- 27:15Speaker 5: it down in the zone and really if he wants
- 27:17Speaker 5: to know what the atmosphere is going to look like.
- 27:19Speaker 5: We just kind of go back to the last WBC
- 27:22Speaker 5: in the semi finals. A lot of people forget that
- 27:25Speaker 5: Venezuela was there. They had the US and until Trey
- 27:29Speaker 5: Turner hit that big home run, Venezuela was going to
- 27:33Speaker 5: the finals.
- 27:34Speaker 6: So it's it's.
- 27:35Speaker 5: Nothing new for Venezuela because there's a lot of repeat
- 27:39Speaker 5: guys on that team and they're gonna come out They're
- 27:42Speaker 5: gonna come out swinging. But if I look at the roster,
- 27:45Speaker 5: if I look at the pitching roster, supposedly Clay I
- 27:49Speaker 5: thought Clay Holmes was taking off. Maybe I'm incorrect, but
- 27:52Speaker 5: Clay Holmes is still on there.
- 27:54Speaker 1: No, No, I mean you might be knocking on paper
- 27:56Speaker 1: on the roster, but I mean he went back to Metsican.
- 28:00Speaker 2: I think he's.
- 28:01Speaker 6: Done because he didn't pitch.
- 28:03Speaker 5: So he's another one because I saw him in the
- 28:04Speaker 5: dugout and I didn't know if he just did the
- 28:07Speaker 5: whole Tarik Scuball thing because in the last game he
- 28:10Speaker 5: was in a dugout. And the reason I say that
- 28:12Speaker 5: is because Scoobale was off this list. But the bullpens rested.
- 28:17Speaker 5: So even if McLean falters in the first inning, second
- 28:21Speaker 5: inning last night, I mean last game, he struck out.
- 28:23Speaker 5: I think he struck out the side to start the
- 28:24Speaker 5: game off, and then he faltered, he might he might
- 28:29Speaker 5: be allowed to give up two base runners and then
- 28:31Speaker 5: they're going right.
- 28:32Speaker 6: To the pen.
- 28:35Speaker 4: Yeah. And and you're putting a button on this too. USA.
- 28:38Speaker 4: They got a hit.
- 28:39Speaker 3: They got a hit, So two things gotta combine for them.
- 28:42Speaker 3: I think both will do well. But if Usay is
- 28:47Speaker 3: clicking on all cylinders hitting, put the pressure on or
- 28:50Speaker 3: on them early and often, you know, could be could
- 28:53Speaker 3: be a big you know, three innings in the beginning,
- 28:55Speaker 3: could be four to five nothing before you know.
- 28:57Speaker 4: And that's that's the plan. We'll see how it works out.
- 29:00Speaker 4: That Scotti b.
- 29:03Speaker 2: I'm pumped. This is gonna be good. We appreciate it. Yeah,
- 29:08Speaker 2: on Saint Patty's Day.
- 29:10Speaker 1: So, I mean, you got all kinds of cultures mixing
- 29:13Speaker 1: and mashing together for this one. You got a little
- 29:16Speaker 1: little green beer American flavor, Venezuela having you know, about
- 29:22Speaker 1: to watch the biggest game of their life if you're
- 29:24Speaker 1: rooting for Venezuela and it's all going down in a
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